 Well, I started my football career playing for Earl Woodwanderers. That was my junior club and Here at Arlington Aval, I played many rep games and then from there I went over to Sydney Olympic at the age of 13. The senior catch saw something in me and I Played my first first grade game at just over the age of 15 and from there. I just progressed through to to youth team Football for Australia then I was to the senior team and finished up my career at Olympic That was basically every game virtually was a Derby in many cases, you know You had the Arpiers and the Marconis and you know, Wollongong and St. George and after a couple of years They brought the Australian NSL together. So we were obviously playing against Adelaide City South Melbourne Brisbane's so the atmosphere was great all around Obviously captain in the youth team in 1981 at the sports stadium against Argentina who were the world champions of that stage. I captain The senior team in Indonesia. I see that as one of the highlights as well I think the past is important to a certain extent, you know, we're in a new generation We're in a new league footballs change throughout the world But one of the issues that we have is because it's much easier for our younger players to go overseas now And they're living in a much younger age and not playing in the in the a-league. I think that's that's a negative So we've got to somehow try to keep our youngest best talent here where the fans can Latch on to some of the so-called superstars of Australian football and then you know turn up to the ground