 It's so stupid it's positively brilliant Yep, shawlamain the God Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots back for another week of a brilliant idiot shit Okay, it's not act like you don't know what the fuck we do here. Mm-hmm. All right, um Andrew how was your week? It was good. It was good. Did it feel like Groundhog Day? Did it feel like a rerun of a bunch of shit you've been doing? Probably. I mean the days are all starting to blend together But I'm held together by this content. That's what's giving me a real schedule Content. Yes the content. Break that down. So you have like a calendar like you like you can tell the days apart based off content Oh, of course. I know we're doing idiots on a Wednesday. I know we're doing flagrant on a Monday night I know a Wednesday Thursday Friday. We're working on the monologue You know patron for flagrant on a Thursday. So it's just like that's what creates the schedule for me It's really interesting how it just blends itself in right like There are no weekends There are no weekends. No, you know, I'm gonna be I feel I feel the weekends All the reason I feel the weekends because I get to sleep in I actually got to sleep in this morning because um Well, we're recording this on Wednesday, but I guess we had a fucking tropical storm here. Yeah, you felt it Shit my Wi-Fi was out. I didn't even realize it In the whole area, but I guess it was a thing because I saw Even Elvis Durand happy happy belated today's is born. They happy born data Elvis Durand by the time you're hearing this it'll be Belated, but I even saw him say that his Wi-Fi was out and I know Envy's Wi-Fi was out because he had to go to his office So I don't know. I guess that's the thing that the fucking Wi-Fi was out So you couldn't even do shit this morning. So I went back to sleep. Hold on one second I'm sorry guys. Hold on one second. There's just this bug in the room. I just want to get it out of the room I don't kill the bug bro. I told you there was don't kill the bug. What kind of bug is it, man? Just why that's it. Get it. No get a napkin. Why pick the bug up outside, bro Don't kill the buzzer fly. Yes. Oh now flies can get it. Now flies can get flies get a fly Now we get we get I get flies the fuck out of here You know what you need for flies You need the old school fly swatter that your grandma used to have back in the day. They still sell those shit, man When you think about it When you think about it those were the most disgusting weapons ever Because all you would do is kill flies and it'd be blood and fly guts all over it But didn't nobody ever wash no goddamn fly swatter That would be a fair factor challenge to kiss the fly swatter that's been sitting in your grandma's house for years and by the way The fly swatter is one of the most illicit inventions ever because that shit alex got in his hand flies laugh at that shit Hey, you think you swinging that shit fast? That fly will look at that shit and be like this motherfucker really thinking about to hit me with that You know what I do though? I just you won't you won't get near them. I just spray the flies with like Bleach or something like that I never did that. Do they have fly spray? I don't think they got fly spray like they got raid for roaches But look you spray it it's not gonna hit them on a magley, but it hits them slowly because I've been finding I found like a dead fly Randomly like oh, I got them. Let's go my bad. Let's start. Oh, there it is. Yo, yo Let's matter of fact This is a great way to segue and the positively brilliant or what a fucking hold on. Let's start. I'm sorry guys We don't we're not starting over. This is great content. This is great content I'm just worried about a fly though. It's great content. Let me tell you something. It's like the breaking bad episode Let me tell you something about the fucking fly bro. Okay the fly swatter Is the last great invention that was made in america that wasn't made in china, bro The last great thing that the fucking americans made That the chinese that's in america that chinese didn't make is the fly swatter really that thing that andrew I mean that alex has in his hand flies laugh at that shit, bro Fly see that shit coming and that motherfucker start moving like keanu reeves in the matrix. He's laughing at you at alex It's something about the fly swatter the way that the the the net is designed with the holes in it For whatever reason flies can't see that shit coming, bro See, look at him. He keeps missing it. I'll just kill that shit Murdered that fly, bro. You bombed iraq and there was no weapons of mass destruction there. You're fucking lying No, we need a little paper. Yo, you killed that shit out. Oh, there's another fly as well That's the same fly. He's now now he's fucking with y'all. He's like he's new yorkers don't know how to kill no goddamn fly I'm tell you listen. I first of all, I hate when southerners do that shit anytime new yorker better hate things Oh, new yorkers don't know how to barbecue no fucking steak when yorkers don't know how to cross no fucking street What is this? Yo, why is it because we're from new york? You think we all got flies up here? You know flies migrated from the south to new york because they realized y'all ain't had no fucking fly swatters They was like, yo, they don't guys know No defense against us in new york city. Look andrew about to use this hat I was gonna scoop him up and I was gonna take him out the fucking room, dude Yo, the fly is gonna be sitting around with his boys tonight drinking out of somebody's cup like yo Man, you wouldn't believe what happened earlier. Yo, these two guys was this white dude And this Puerto Rican dude, you know, they was trying to kill me with record album cover And nothing worked It's like really? Yo, we gotta go over there what they had over there a big cup of water I'm telling you what else did you see this week that was positively brilliant other than the fly swatter I don't know man. What about you? What was your positively brilliant this week? Um, I gotta give it up for the NBA. Why? I just like I like how they I like how they figured it out while other Uh, major league sports organizations haven't but I mean, it's it's a simple reason for that. It's what the bubble Yeah, basketball is just easier to contain That's all It's just easier to contain. You know what I mean because all you need is a court Right. Yeah, and you get everybody in one place. You know, uh, the teams are smaller It's like what 12 people per team. I don't know how many You know with coaches and everything else. I don't know how much people are actually on a team But I think I read somewhere it was like 300 or a little bit more than 300 Right, so it's just easier to contain you invite a few media people in Lock the whole shit down And have tournament tournament style basketball and it looks fun. It looks dope. I'm not gonna find it looks like it looks like NBA, uh, 2k Do you think that The staff so right now nobody's in the bubble. Nobody's out of the bubble Yes, right What do you mean? Nobody's in the Like the bubble, uh, nobody can go into the bubble. No, it could come out. It's kind of like you're just locked in and that's just whatever It's this only go system Do you think that the NBA players will start to try to have sex with the staff this working the bubble? Hmm If they're smart, no um Has nothing to do with the bubble and everything to do it to me two times up movement No need to get no goddamn No need these are guys that are NBA players They're getting their dick suck before every game if they want they got a chick in every different city, you know What about their wives? I don't need to get me to in the boat them No, you think NBA players are 100 faithful. What about the single NBA players? First of all Also, how do you get 10 different baby mamas? What is Dwight Howard have stop? He got 10 different baby mamas 80% of the mba black black men don't cheat So the ones that are not with somebody are not a committed relationship. They just got a who cares Why do you need to have sex? Why do you need to have sex? No, why do you need? Why do you need to have sex? You don't need to have sex, but there's nothing you could do in the bubble. There's nothing going on You can't even hang out inside constant basketball. Say what it's constant basketball, right constant basketball You know they're playing games. It's actually a good modern experience. Exactly. Would you it's like some account really bullshitting right now? You don't think the guys are gonna be trying to get their dick sucked by the secretary of the hotel You don't think the cleanie lady Before this it was happening. What were they doing before they weren't dick suck Bro, you're so prehistoric, bro It's 2020, bro. I don't have to get my dick sucked by a woman all these Why why do I gotta shoot at that basket in 2020? First of all, you're you're you're you're you're not acknowledging the facts I say It's called setting the screen. All right. All right. I set a screen You're acting like in 2020. There's no undercover gay basketball players. They are in heaven in that ball They're loving it. That's the dream, bro That's the dream. Yes, they are What are you talking about? So do you think that they're gonna take advantage of like some like by mba players but like have never gone that way Because the mba is going gay in this bubble guaranteed The gay mba players getting it in they're getting it in But do you think that they're gonna flip any straights? I don't it's not like jail, bro. I don't think it's that bad. I think it's like jail I think it's like jail What did ellen say? She says the same thing. It's not a life sentence. So it's not a life sentence, but I don't think you even start contemplating that kind of stuff unless you get a life sentence, bro You will go going from daily dick sucks To just guys Okay, it's just guys. What if your daily dick sucks with just guys? So now you're chilling. Nothing has changed Your life is good. Matter of fact, we should look at who's the most relaxed in the bubble If you really want to know Yo, if you a gay mba player, you're probably sitting around like Did I dive corona and go to heaven when you're looking around that bubble 100% 100% Taylor, I don't know why you're shocked to see this. Who's your favorite mba player? They could be getting their Who's your favorite mba player he passed away current mba current mba player. Why you got to make it sad The fuck bro current mba player You don't like anybody in the mba. I mean they're cool But I can't like name one out the back if you worked at the hotel Would you be excited if you were single hypothetically speaking your favorite excited? Yeah You're one of nice looking bodies walking around. Yeah, and you're one of 10 girls And there's all these guys fill with testosterone to the brim I'm not a hoe. So who said you're on? What I gotta do with you being a hoe Y'all could go in a walk. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Don't talk to Taylor today Taylor's on one yo Taylor's on one yo Chris was talking to Taylor. Chris said Taylor was talking about black as king right and Taylor's like I fell asleep So Beyonce, I mean Chris said so you fell asleep to your queen Taylor said why I gotta be a coon Andrew Andrew specifically said to you you're a one of 10 women You have a choice of all of these different men. You said I'm not a hoe what Can I tell you what it was charlotte? Because she started thinking of some whole things. That's why That's why she started thinking of some whole things and they Exactly like you know what it is. It's like when you come home late and your girl's like, what the fuck are you doing? You're like, I wasn't cheating and she's like I never asked you if you're cheating. I wasn't anyway. I am not looking at porn hub I'm not watching no old women on porn hub. What are you talking about? Yeah, you just outed yourself. You were thinking of whole stuff Because what else what's the end of the question? Taylor you are a you are you are a young Taylor. You are a young Black woman who can make her own decisions. I know if you are somewhere and it's a it's a smorgasbord of men That you from and you choose to sleep with one Even if you choose to sleep with two that don't make you a hoe. That don't make you a hoe Now it doesn't but but they're not they're gonna try to treat me like one and not take me seriously Why not you figure just don't fuck don't fuck one of the duos. Don't fuck hard man. Westbrook That's a good point people on the same team for real. Yeah, don't fuck people that are beefing Don't fuck duos people are beefing also. Don't fuck twins Don't fuck Hawaii and paul george. Yeah, you got it. You got it. Don't fuck luke and and povers for zingas Yeah That's all you got to go different division eastern conference western conference back back and forth. That's what you got to do For real, you can't keep the kuchi in one conference That's the bubble rule you gonna fuck zion and brandon angram and then wonder why they call you out your name Yeah, come on You and another thing that you need to start doing is start you need to watch that Beyonce thing So you can put some respect on yourself. Yeah Because I was talking about you building relationship with a successful man I wasn't talking about no whole shit. You just you just jumped out there and volunteered to hold Yeah, I ain't a hoe We're like we didn't ask you about dick somebody said that Somebody said that All I told you was that you are A vibrant a vibrant young woman who would have the pick of the litter there Might even leave with a husband. You might leave with a you get married a magic kingdom I definitely wouldn't You might as well This is crazy. We overheard thinking nice wholesome stuff about how you can get wiped up and you just out here talking about the Trains that could get ran on. That's the thing. That's the thing with girls these days That's the thing with girls these days is protect projecting their Sex nonsense on us and that's not what we're about over here We thought you were gonna have some conversations playing a couple rounds of golf with Dwight Howard Not a stand job, but no doubt y'all won y'all won that round. Go ahead. It's not it's not. You know what? It's not a game to be one It's really not a game to be one. It's not a game, bro It's not a game. We're out here. We care about you. So you don't like the new mba4 matchups Now it's not that I don't like it. I actually think they did a really good job visually It looks fine For me, it doesn't mean anything yet Really like I'm seeing the games. I'm like, what is it? It's like still the regular season. I'm like, what? Like these games to me are like pre-season. It feels like pre-season one week. Once we get into playoffs I think I'm gonna take it seriously, but these games I could give a fuck about Yeah, they balling though. I'm not gonna lie like they balling I mean, I guess because they don't have anything to do but play ball and they haven't played balling much Yeah, they they ball it. Yeah going for it I think so the one question I have is like Are you gonna get the same effort from the players? When without the crowd there that's like cheering them on like, you know those moments when it's like Steph Curry is going crazy. He just hits four threes in a row and the crowds erupting and everybody's losing it Are you gonna get those same moments without the crowd? I would love to know that's a great question and I would love to know What is the percentage Of crowd energy that people take in and what I mean by that is when you're an NBA player A certain portion of you a certain percentage of you on that court has to block all that shit out, right? Yeah, and you have to do that home our way Because I don't think it's something you can turn on or off meaning like if you're on a wake court And people are booing the shit out of you you got to block that out But if you're at home and people are even cheering you you still kind of got to block that out just to perform and get in here It's like it's kind of like what my daddy used to say you're never as good as they say you are And you're never as bad as they say you are so you don't really pay attention to either or I wonder how much what's the percentage of of of just crowd noise and crowd crowd energy they block off and don't take in Yeah, or maybe it's something that inspires them either way like some people might get inspired by the booze True, you know, and it motivates them to say, oh, I'm gonna lock this guy up now There's no way he's gonna score me if everybody's gonna be booing me like that You know, I can't wait to give them buckets But I will say the one thing that we don't give um Any athlete enough credit for uh, it's because I think we don't recognize the mental fortitude. It takes to be them Um our emotional fortitude it takes to be them because I think a lot of times when we think mental we think IQ So you might hear one of these guys talking to interview and they may not be the most intellectual articulate But on that court or on that field they have high levels of IQ So I think that they have to go places in their mind That we don't go on a regular basis right by actually think not having the crowd Will make for better basketball because it's gonna make those players have to dig deeper Into their psyches, you know what I mean? Yeah, or it could benefit the Mentally weaker players like the players they get nervous the players that You know, they choke under pressure now They're not gonna feel that same level of pressure because they're not going to be 20 000 people screaming of them Every time they fuck up. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. The players will be interesting. I'm excited to see what happens, man I'm really excited to see what happens. I am too. Um, positively brilliant this week What else did I see that was you know, I thought was positively brilliant. Um I think the rock behind the xfl is positively brilliant because I think you could put that in the same type of bubble as you can put the As the NBA did whereas the regular NFL, I think it's too big to bubble There's just not enough football fields and that close the proximity to like lock everybody in So there is a chance That if the NFL gets shut down baseball might get shut down All these different leagues might get shut down because corona seems to be taking out players There's a chance that maybe the xfl is the only football that we watch this year And then it could blow the fuck up if they bubble it. Why the fuck was the xfl so cheap? bro 15 million because I think I don't know what you're buying. I think you're just buying the brand name I don't think you're buying anything else besides that It's not like there's like what else is there to buy they don't got a stadium They don't have like a office. They don't have anything So you just buying the brand of the xfl I was um, that is that was a positively brilliant move. Uh, I think it's positively brilliant for what you just said I didn't think about that. I was looking at it from The angle of the way in the rock johnson Who used to be an employee? Of a owner Who actually owned the xx xfl vince big man, you know when when when the rock used to Be a wrestler and so the rock vince owned the wwe and the xfl. I just love to see somebody come from that The putting himself in a position Where now He's an owner of something like the rock is the rock has come up and become a boss Where he once was a worker Right and it started it started there it started in the wwe That's how the the brand of the rock was built to become Dwayne the rock johnson the highest paid actor in hollywood now He's buying something that somebody he used to work for used to own. Yeah, I think that's dope That's that's the kind of energy that I like. Yeah, it's kind of far It reminds me of the intern who becomes the ceo. Yeah, you know, and I think that the rock You know learned business somewhere along the line and and you don't see You don't see wrestlers making those kind of moves. I can't think of too many wwe superstars who Went on to become as successful as the rock after wrestling You know, I can't think any. Yeah, who? Yeah, I can't think any so I thought that I thought that was brilliant on his part. Um What a fucking idiot man, I even hate to put put him in what a fucking idiot Who because I I don't think I think it goes back to what I was just saying about ball players, right? Like just because they don't articulate well when they're in interviews doesn't mean that they don't have a level of genius And I think it takes the level of genius to be your president, bro Yeah Just a little bit Because the way he handles himself in interviews Is incredible. Yeah If it wasn't if it wasn't the fate of america At hand It would be the most interesting entertaining thing to watch because the things he says I hate that I understand what he means. Yeah When he's talking about coronavirus And they're bringing up how many people died of coronavirus Everybody took that one clip when he said it is what it is But in context What he said made six what he said He said play I want you to play click the way, right? We have that What he said It is what it is 150 000 people died But it's not like we haven't been trying to do everything to prevent that from happening, right? So basically What he's saying and I feel like i'm a gemini translator because I can translate kanye Donald trump and little duval. I always know what those three are talking about, right? But he's essentially saying some things are just simply out of your control And I'm not and I listen I there's plenty of people who say he could have done more to prevent these things from happening I'm yes I agree with those people because firing the global pandemic team in 2016 was just stupid That's what that that's what's that for like you don't get rid of your insurance And then get in the car wreck and then get mad because they you know They won't fucking cover you or you got to come out of pocket to pay, right? So he's basically saying some things are just out of our control And we've tried and we tried and we tried and we tried but 150 000 lives were still lost now The debate there is what I just said. Did he do enough to prevent those 150 000? Let's just say For hypothetical purposes. Yes, he did 150 000 people still died whether it was 150 000 or 40 000 Whether it was 40 000 or 20 000 there was going to be casualties, right? You just want to keep those casualties down to a minimum Him saying it is what it is It's not like we didn't try our hardest to prevent this from happening. I understood what the motherfucker was trying to say What's hard to understand about that? What was it like he Listen whenever it's whenever you got over 150 000 people dying You can't just say it is what it is Because if that was If that was five of your family members who died in that you wouldn't talk on it like that No, it'd be a complete tragedy. It'd be all horrible But so we should we should look like that. It would be what it is I have um said I know I've said that a lot this summer, you know, because I had two friends who committed suicide in And after a while That is one of the coping and coping mechanisms for it, right? You just got to accept it for what it is. Life is fucked up, man. Life is not fair Yeah, life is not going to go your way all the time. That's why I always say I don't believe In good or bad. I just believe in life being one long process and it's just a series of experiences Some of those experiences Are going to hurt some of those experiences are going to help. I think all those experiences You know help you become who you ultimately are going to be though. Yes now in the case of america Is there something to learn from this situation? Of course it will be Do we see the lesson now Maybe not maybe some of us do maybe some of us don't maybe we won't realize it till two three years down the line Maybe it's just a major fuck-up And guess what when major fuck-ups happen things like this happen people die people get sick sadly That's just so I'm about to say that's just the way that it is. So whether you say it it is what it is That's the way it is But I understand I understand when people are sensitive and they've they've had something horrible happen to them They want empathy. They want concern and maybe that's the role of a president You know, maybe that's one of the things Obama was so great at or clinton was so great as that he could talk to the moment In a way that would kind of console people and make people feel more comfortable And that's why I put him in the what a fucking idiot category Because all you got to do is show some empathy. He has no empathy. Trump doesn't have that gear. He's not he's he's kind of like Kanye in a way he communicates, you know, like kind of Yeah, like like in a kind of okay very similar and and I mean that I mean that in terms of If a compliment and a disc because if it's something that resonates with people that Kanye says, right It's exalted people love it. George Bush. Don't care about black people Do people talk about that to this day? He just spoke to the feelings and I'm sure I'm sure trump has a million lines That are similar to that, right? Which people are like, yeah fake news. Yeah Crooked hillary. Yeah, he knows how to like market ideas. But if you're going to him and you're like He's not the guy that you go to and be like, I'm feeling sad today He's gonna be like He's a old school father. Yeah, what the fuck it is. Man the fuck up man up. Which means you feel sad What's sad? You feel sad put some makeup on You guys don't think he has a responsibility as the person effectively in charge of the federal government for coordinating This country's response to that you guys are just gonna let him off the hook for that and it is what it is Chris you're not listening. I'm hearing everything you're saying and by the way, you ended it with just like how trump ended As you said it is what it is Yeah, Chris I'm out what we're saying is exactly what you're saying, Chris. Yes as president, you should have empathy He has a responsibility. He has a responsibility to keep the temperature of the the country down But he's not capable of doing it. Listen. Chris just wants to vision in this country, bro We all know what side chris is on Chris is working for the chinese Oh Chris didn't even mute. Chris got the fuck off all together. Hey, he got off the call He did get off the call Because he knows who else was listening Well, he knows who else was listening bro What Chris is is failing to realize We're saying exactly what he's saying. He just said it in a much more articulate intelligent book writery way Chris wants that division, bro. You know where this is right now Chris chris is sitting in a in a temple about 1000 stairs into the sky Okay, above the cloud line. You got to walk up 1000 straight stairs to get there And he's he's trying to stoke that division, bro. He's trying to tear us apart tear this country apart To benefit one place y'all know, okay There's nobody doing a better job of that than donald trump though And the reason donald trump is doing a great job of that is to what we're saying and chris is saying is because He doesn't know how to bring people together He just doesn't know how to do it. It's not in him. Like it's like you say he doesn't have that gear, bro It's it's not only a gear It's a practice, right if you're a business if you're a businessman or woman taylor You have to appease the people to support your business So he's just treating the company the country like his business and he's appeasing his supporters The customer is always right. It don't matter if the customer is A staunch diehard, you know economic conservative or maybe a racist motherfucker who got republican values He is appeasing the customer the customer is always right. He don't give a fuck about the competition But but i'ma tell you what he fucked up shows. Where's that? When you say it is what it is to 150 000 people, bro, some of your customers got died too You know i'm saying some of your customers relatives are dead as well. I'm not. What is it called? What am I saying? What i'm trying to say like i'm not saying it's okay. What he said. It was stupid It was done from a pr perspective like let's say that's how that's how you feel Even if that's how you feel you got to know better than to say that He can't this is a guy who doesn't listen to anybody. Yeah, he doesn't listen to any notes I'm sure that he has people around him that prepped him for this shit But he don't remember none of this shit like so he goes with his feelings. Yeah He's a guy who always moves off a motion not strategy And by the way, it's probably worked for him his whole fucking life for the most part He saw that with john lewis comment. What's the john lewis thing? You want to say? I didn't watch the whole interview. What was it? I'm gonna be see and here. Here I go. Here you go, charlotte It is what it is Once again once again I'm playing white devil's advocate here. What he said about what he said about representative john lewis was all the way Fucked up, but I didn't expect anything less. He's a petty motherfucker. He said john lewis didn't come to my inauguration Why didn't he come to the inauguration because he doesn't agree with donald trump and donald trump's policies, of course Trump is like he didn't come to my inauguration now Little boosie did an interview with dj vlad long time ago. Maybe a couple years ago. Yeah, and boosie said If I don't like you I'm not gonna pretend to like you after you dead Interesting. He said if I don't like you he said if it was f you when you was alive It was gonna be f you when you was dead We say keep the same energy Yeah, so do we respect it? No Was he wrong as the leader of the of the of the country? Yes But as a human That's his right If you don't that's his right to say, you know, I don't rock with john lewis. I didn't rock with john lewis When the life he said I didn't know him. I didn't know the man. Yeah, I didn't know the man He didn't come to my inauguration. I know that much so I mean, you knew him you knew him enough to know he didn't come to the inauguration Because he's petty He's the type of to keep names Who didn't come Who didn't come to my inauguration write that name down? I remember that in the future Because by the way, he gave it up to hermit kane Even though he's the even though he's partly to blame for hermit kane not being here no more right You know i'm saying because as a leader you gathered all those people together Knowing that the country wasn't ready for that type of congregation yet this man caught coronavirus this man passed away Didn't wear no mask was on twitter saying how yo, we don't have to wear no mask america's tired of it Now he's not here anymore. That's why I don't certain things. I don't laugh. You can't play with certain energies, bro You know, you just don't do that because you just never know So hermit kane played with that energy and he died from that energy Trump gave it up to him. Trump gave him a nice long Twitter ran our nice long instagram caption whatever it was that he was a great man in all of this because he knew him and because hermit kane Supported him, but trump is really a guy. That's like, yo if you ride with me I ride with you if it's f me it's f you for life and in death yeah It is interesting. It's like relatable in your favorite rapper, but It's not what you want in your president Yeah, I think that's what it really comes down to. Yeah, then we gotta think about Hey, not even just your favorite rapper You're just any when when you're in a position where you controlled the country. Yeah, and you're over the country Bro, you just can't move like everybody. Maybe we want our presidents to be fake and maybe Trump isn't fake enough for us and maybe that's why we get upset like we want our presidents to lie to us We want our presidents to give us hope We want our presidents to be almost like our parents when we're kids who are gonna just tell us everything's gonna be all right We're gonna figure out everything and everything's fine And um when we don't get that from our president, whatever sigh doesn't get that gets enraged I think um, I think you're right and I think we want that from everybody. This is actually a good deep dive. I think I think we want that from everybody I think in order to get to that That place of real healing that place of real honesty. I have to start with the bullshit Like before I tell you that you did something wrong I gotta tell you how great You are You know, I mean, I got that's just the air we live in you might not receive it If I if I if I if I if I just come out Boom out the gate and I'm telling you y'all you were you were f'd up for this and you were f'd up for that And you were wrong for this yada yada yada you might not receive it But if I take that medicine Put a little sugar in it and give it to you that way No, yeah, remember when you was a kid and they take the spoon and Airplane airplane runway You have to do that You just do people don't like shit straight with no chaser as much as we say we do Good or bad. Yeah, good or bad. Don't tell me don't tell like that's what what would they sit you down and say Okay, I got good news and I got bad Which one you want first? That the answer to that question really determines what type of person you are right Seriously, can you handle the bad news first? Most people can't Nobody wants bad news Nobody wants bad news and nobody wants To be honest like we do want the truth, but we want it in a way that Desensitizes us first and maybe that's what you're saying like building them up Maybe that's what you're saying that we want to be understood before we get the truth Like if you got to tell somebody who they are you got to tell somebody some horrible news about something Their feelings need to be acknowledged first and that's something that trump does not do That's something that khanyei does not do that's something a lot of just poor communicators do and i'm not going to call trump or khanyei poor communicators Even though I have because they're exceptional at communicating certain things Right, like if you listen to khanyei you listen to trump you listen to certain people They're just kind of funny and they'll make points that some people might seem Might say are like brave to say because others wouldn't say them in that situation So you kind of value that But at the same time if it's ever something that you're not ready to hear you don't want to hear It stings that much more because there's no filter whatsoever. There's no chaser. You just got to take that shot straight Yeah, um Wow, are they good communicators I think they are call them like all across the board, but they have Genius in their communication like you cannot deny There's genius in trump's communication because he has all these words that we continue to use It's great marketing and you cannot deny khanyei's genius in his communication because he can stir shit up He knows how to fucking rile people up But at the same time anybody who's Anybody who is able to make you give a fuck about every word they say Has to be a great communicator because whether you're Breaking down those words the shit on them are You're bigging up those words because you loved what they said You're hanging on to every word and I think great communicators make you know how to hang make Great communicators know how to make people hang on to every word Yeah, and why do we hang on? I really don't know in the case of khanyei. I think we hang on because There was a period where khanyei said a lot of things that people agreed with and and you got to think khanyei's not just You know, we're talking about interviews and ranch and shit like that, but this is a guy who gave you Motitudes, I mean a plethora of music So it's a bunch of words that people Live and die by from khanyei was he understand I'm saying like it's it's albums that have gotten people through So he's a rapper. So as a rapper that your whole method is Is or rotating right so you're giving people these words and delivering these words and people hold on to them And then you know when you did step out and do these ranch Whether it was george book doesn't care about black people Beyonce's album was better than Taylor Swift But just these verbal screams of consciousness where you have seemingly spoke things into existence You told people what you were going to do in the fashion world told people what you're going to do in the sneaker world You have enough currency out there with your words, right? Because that's really what we're discussing the economy of words You have enough cash out there with your words that people hold on to them So I think in the case of khanyei people still hold on because they're still waiting for that That brilliance that we once knew You know, what about what about in the case of someone like it's akashi 69 It's like how is he so good at maintaining the conversation And maintaining a level of curiosity and what do you think that he does effectively? Yeah, I mean at this point and I actually I actually posted this this morning. I posted this this morning on instagram. Um people would rather Pull out the phone and record The car crash as opposed to saying something to a person that may prevent the car crash from happening So let's not confuse hanging on to somebody's every word with people Watching a car crash because if everybody is simply if everybody is waiting for something bad That happened to you They're not paying attention to you because what you're what you're saying is so intriguing So you don't think there's any people that are just like curious about him Curious of how it's going in yes, but if they watch the music video, they know that it didn't end in the music video So they want to watch it. They want to keep they want to keep justifying They want to keep justifying what they already feel which is Something bad is going to happen to these so you're saying they're following the story as it comes to an end They're watching they're watching the car waiting for it to crash just like this guy's drunk He's got a mask on Got his eyes covered. Yeah. Yeah smoking weed. Yeah. He's letting the car drive by itself It's only a matter of time Before he runs into somebody And that i'm saying yeah, no that makes sense. I think it's a good it's a good description because He's done an amazing job of garnering attention without quality and he even talks about the lack of quality Right. He has that angie martinez interview where he's like my music's trash I mean it's hot trash Like he has this amazingly like kind of humble self-deprecating You know outlook on his on himself But he knows how to like garner and continue that attention and you're saying it's part of the car crash And maybe that's what we're all following. I guess I don't know but he found a way to monetize it I wonder and you know, it's so interesting. We've always compared You know tukashi the trump um But I kind of see the same energy in both of them At this moment And it's kind of like a drug dealer who knows he's about to go to prison When drug dealers know they're about to go to prison Like when they know the feds is on them and they know that any day it could be over They just start wild You know, I mean it's almost like it's it's it's kind of like a cry for help almost You know, it's it's kind of like uh desperation Desperation that started to set in and that's when they just start to really do and say Anything in order to survive because they can feel those walls Closing in and you don't know how much time you got left in the case of trump Could be 90 days But I don't think he's leaving so right, you know, I think he's gonna at least hold on till january You know, I've been said this I've been said trump is going I don't I don't know how but he's gonna manipulate some shit in order to find a way to stay into that Stay in that white house. And I think it's the same with What with the dude? I think that he um, he might feel them walls closing in He don't he may not he he may not know how long he got and he may not give a For real. I'm gonna enjoy myself while I'm here. I'm not here for a long time I'm here for a good time. Maybe that's how he's feeling Do you think people ever get to that state? If they're not facing like fatal illness Like do you think they're actually you think they're guys are just like look, I'm probably gonna get killed with the next few years So I'm a while out until that happens. That's it. That's it. Well, yeah I mean, I know plenty of dudes like that. Like I mean, we know really Little Duvall is like that and and and and now Little Duvall has been Accepted that he could die at any moment and he he's accepts that that's part of life for sure But he's not purposely living crazy and reckless No, not not crazy and reckless, but he's living he's clearly living his life out loud. He says it. I'm living my best life Like yeah, but he's not trying to do he's not like going out of his way to do things that will kill him Like he'll he actually goes out of his way to do things That will make him live longer. Yeah, he's living. He's living. I don't and by the way, I don't think I don't think dude is doing anything to get himself killed He's clearly not he's walking around a hundred security guards I'm just simply saying if you know people are gunning for you Yeah, right if you know people want you out of here if you're not even sure you don't know You don't know what could happen. You're gonna live your life Freely as possible. All right. I got a question He's signed to a label right and the label is works with him on like creating these videos and like marketing the songs and all this other stuff, right? We have to assume right Intimately involved in him. I assume there are other Rappers signed to that same label. No Yeah So why aren't they coming at the label for supporting a snitch and why aren't they coming at the label for Protecting a snitch and because I'm enabling a snitch and because I think they understand business I don't think they stupid they understand business like why would the label give a fuck Why would the label care if but you're assigned to that same label? so so so So when it comes to business, you're okay to like be around snitches and that kind of stuff Well, I don't think that they expect any of those executives to follow any of the same street codes that they do Right, but they don't feel uncomfortable being like part of a label that like is with snitches I mean, even if they did what could they do they're on the contract? Right So it's like what could they do like when they could do a band of trade trade me to death jam I mean they could camera on that shit Waves me isn't that what camera did didn't he go into building and just say hey i'm out Didn't he go into death jam and like slap somebody around and say i'm no longer part of this label I don't I never heard death jam or something else. Wasn't there a story about that back in the day? I never heard that but guess what even if you did so what you under five albums you got five albums You can slap me up all you want now. He got out of it. He got out of the contract apparently Probably because he turned in all his albums. I think he just pulled out a pistol No, look up the story. I might I don't think I'm making a camera adam Andrew 22 shit I think bro You just make up a whole story about camera like that. I didn't make it up. It's not cam. Is it someone else? Jesus christ. I don't know. I've never heard that story Noriega I I I have no idea So you're talking about masterpiece when he said no, look it up. Maybe is it one of them? Oh, by the way Ice cube you talking about? No, why by the way? What positively brilliant no limit documentary man Listen, this is why I mean, I'm just speaking for myself right now hip hop is the greatest genre of music of all time only because There has not been a genre of music That transcends generations The way hip hop has Like maybe I could be wrong. I'm just speaking for for hip hop and rb is what I grew up on So maybe it's different for me. Andrew, you might have your fans your your parents might have Grew up on rock music and you might still be into a lot of these rock artists to this day But I'm talking about the fact that masterpiece no limit documentary can come on bt debut at number one on bt and be top be number eight in all cable programming In the top 10 throughout for all cable because people are so in To these iconic superhero like figures that have come from this genre of hip hop It's it's it's actually unbelievable. So the documentary's out right now Yeah, it's it's six parts Two parts aired last week. Um, two more parts aired last night. Even though we're taping this on Thursday So I haven't seen this week, but masterpiece man. He's always been such an inspiration for me because he's from the south So, you know back in the day when you saw the Forbes list, you would see Diddy and will smith and you'd be like, okay, you get it, right? But to see a guy from the south who Wasn't shiny like diddy or will smith who wasn't polished like diddy or will smith but literally just had Better business probably them both of them if I'm being honest, right? Only because the deal that he decided to take jimmy avine offered masterpiece a million dollars The sign masterpiece was like if this white man is offering me a million. I'm worth about 30 or 40 So I gotta I say I'm not doing so he said jimmy avine told him. Yo, you leave this office deals off the table He left Right, then he went and spoke to a lawyer. It was actually Michael Jackson's lawyer I think he had to pay the lawyer just like 25 grand to have a conversation with right Whoa, and Michael Jackson's lawyer was like you what you need to do is get a Pressuring a distribution deal you get 85 let the label get 15 So he went looking for a company that would give him that and now that he has this knowledge He's on this knowledge. He goes into priority records. That's what he ends up getting Then he ends up selling a little bit more to ownership like I think it was like five percent So he could get like a quarter million dollars just for marketing and promotion So I think it was like ended up being like 80 20 or some shit like that But either way that you're getting 80 percent of all profits That's how he ended up on the fucking Forbes list Right and then to go in there and tell the label look because he would say he was looking doing the math He's like if my album went platinum Made 16 million dollars What if I put out one of these shit a week? How much money would I make went into the office Telling the executives what he's going to do The executives is telling him he can't do it master. He said I had to remember I'm 80 percent Y'all 20 percent Y'all do what I tell y'all to do He said he looked around the room and said y'all think cuz y'all white y'all right He said I'm putting out an album a week Do your job And that's what he did. That's how no limit became no limit He put out a new album He probably knew he put out an album every week for a year and I remember that I was he was in an album Album, but it was but it was different artists. It wasn't just masterpiece Oh, he had different artists putting out albums every week. So a silk to shaka album mystical mea xc murder Mac fiend like he had a different artist coming out every freaking week And I remember that because the only reason you would go in there and buy that albums is because of that tape That tank was so strong at the time in the south if the album had a fucking tank on it No limit you was picking it up to see what was on there motherfucker So he had 52 different artists I don't know how many he dropped that year, but it's close. He had a lot of artists, bro And because every time you would open up a no limit album Inside the album cover would just be all the coming soon You don't remember that or tell you I I'm just learning about masterpiece. Have you ever bought a cd Taylor? Yes, I have brought a cd I'm being honest. I'm sad How young do you think I am? Yes, I brought cd. How old are you? I'm not doing this with you I was gonna say that, um, I always knew that masterpiece was a businessman, but I didn't know like The story behind it. I mean, that's brilliant. I love people betting on themselves. That's the best And that's why you should watch the doc. That's why the story is so I just loved his dance Remember he would do that shit. He go, bro Master P had an amazing life that people don't talk about man. That's a few fucking me I don't know what the hell that is you doing That's to make him say nah, make him say Make him say nah, don't do that again Master P was on two nba preseason team. I remember that he had a sneaker remember that ugly ass sneaker He had he did he did but he don't stop and that's a he was on breakfast club this morning That's what he was talking about. He was like, man, what you need is product Product is what separates you from everybody else. Hmm. That's what you want You want to sell product and he's right everybody. That's filthy fucking rich sales product What do you think his competitive advantage is? Being from the south but outside of that like There's a lot of people that are from the south, right? What is it that he is exceptional at like some people succeed because they're amazing organizers Some people see succeed because they're visionaries. They're innovators. What is master p you've spoken to him You've known him for a while What do you think he is so much better than his competition at outside of graph? Let's say vision faith faith in faith in god and faith in himself and um Business acumen, you know, just just being able to sit down and soak up information like sometimes man, we have Either we would you say tell he's not emotional like he was saying that he don't let His emotions kind of get involved in the business. He don't Um, he's not gonna like what he said to snoop dog like don't mess with oh, yeah, don't do the fuck that bro shit. Yeah Don't talk bad about him either though because it's still because he helped you. Yeah He put you on which is true You know I'm saying like even though but that that goes back to you know people do Something good for you, but it doesn't mean they're good for you and I get it You know, I mean, I'm like I'm like that with with people that I've that I've dealt with you know until they You know Like when like windy, I wouldn't I don't think I could ever speak bad about when you went because she's done so much for you Yeah, even though she might have done things that are bad to you as well Yeah, and I mean, you know, even even even with her husband her husband only you push me to that You know I'm saying because you so busy I had trying to take my head off But even still with that I'm not gonna go out of my way The to speak ill of you or go out of my way to The the the wish harm upon you. God bless you. Do your thing, right, you know, so I think with P. I think it's the fact that he has faith in a higher power Faith in himself A high business acumen and he's a he's a he's a visionary like You got to be able to see things Like for real when nobody else can see him, right Like I can't explain to you why the the tank should be my logo No, I can't I could be like, yo, I most of my family was in the military Which peas family was and we grew up off that military discipline. That's why I want to use this tank Right, but you may not see the vision like a tank Yeah, hey, I don't fuck with the government. Yeah, I don't fucking America. It ain't about that It's about the discipline that the army instills in you. It's about what that tank represents that tank represents Discipline it represents having a foundation that represents structure it represents organization. That's what we're building here, right I can't explain that to you. I just got to show you And um, I think that's what masterpiece did I think even when he Said he he upped and went to richland, california I think that's what his his his wife's family was from or something like that. I could be getting the story wrong I don't remember how he ended up in california, but just knowing if certain places you need to be And listening to that in a voice As crazy as it sounds because by the way, nobody talks to you crazy it and you talk to yourself Hmm It's a woman man. Her name is neek Salute to neek. Neek, uh Was the music director at hot 103.9 in columbia. So I can like I told this story a million times wrote about it in my book neek Me and her was sitting in the studio having a conversation one day You know just talking about what's next for us as far as radio and things are concerned And she was just telling me about signs She was like, yo, you might you might leave here right now And and the first license plate you see that's that's right. That's where you may need to be Hmm, right. I'm like, you know, I take it in Getting the car jump my little Honda goddamn civic, right? I'm driving. I have forgot about it And then I thought about what she said. So I just looked to the left. So all lights play lights play said new jersey Like, oh shit new jersey, but I'm like a fucking radio stations in new jersey Then my mind goes new york jersey in new york right by each other Immediately I dismissed the idea. It's like no, that'll never happen. I'm in market number 98 How the fuck I'm gonna make it to market number one? It don't matter how the fuck you're gonna get there Do you see the vision? Do you see what I'm trying to show you? Whoever that is god the universe whatever you are Do you see what I'm showing you? I ain't ask you to worry about how you gonna get there I'm trying to get you to see the vision trying to get you to see your fucking future I will handle the rest. I just need you to go put in the work Sometimes we talk ourselves out of things, man Yeah, straight up get that vision and you talk yourself out of it like nah, I ain't going how the fuck I'm not going Yeah, shut up whoever's talking to me in my head. There's probably people listen right now I was like, yo, why don't I get these little signs? Why don't I get these little visions? I I don't know if there's you a fuck nigga I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say that I believe in I feel like his neck He really leaned into that he Charlemagne really leaned into that Not Andrew Andrew Said that Charlemagne the god while I listened while I listened to that word I was subject to that. I don't know who he was yelling at but That person felt it if he's listening to it that person knew exactly who he was talking about because I felt it a little bit I felt it about I felt about three out of ten You felt it so I got to the end That's right, that's right that's that african dna in you That's that black magic bro So in all seriousness though I think sometimes there's people who like well, why don't I see these signs? I see that kind of stuff I don't know if things present themselves as signs as much as people who believe in themselves see signs in everything And I think when you believe In your ability to do certain things when you believe in your ability to like achieve your dreams You see a license plate and you see more than new jersey. You see new jersey, which is the place next to new york Which is where you should do radio and if that was a sign that's a convoluted ass sign You know what I mean if god's like y'all want you to be in new york, so check out this fucking Patterson new jersey license I'ma tell you why it's not a convoluted sign though because you know you're a joke writer, right? You and your team can be sitting around writing and then One thing Right triggers for sure Triggers something else For you know takes you in a whole another direction. You're like, oh shit And next thing, you know, you don't put the whole thing together But that's what it was you see that sign it says jersey next thing you think Jersey ain't no radio station in new jersey or new york is right there in new york So so boom the puzzles the whole puzzle started. I think I think what happens is when you believe in yourself You start to see those puzzles you start to see the pieces It's no different than like when you get a new car all of a sudden you start to see everybody else who got that car And before you got the car you don't ever see the Acura right and once you have an acre You see acres everywhere like your girl, right? You buy a new skirt Then all of a sudden you see every single chick on instagram got that skirt or you're walking down the street You see you see more people with the thing that you have and you're like, oh my god Fucking thing. I look at the african airings because she saw Taylor Rooks with the african chain. Um in the breakfast club in the first of all Waiter I've been had this don't even try it that was seen Point is I've seen you the point is is like Because I've been trying to understand like why is it that? I guess and I'm a son of maybe Matt made master p looks at things like this You probably look at things like this. I look at things like this and it's like Every situation is an opportunity if you see it in that way You know like I think a lot of people what happened with the pandemic Is you know, they're like, oh my god, we can't go to comedy clubs or we can't go into the radio We can't do anything we got to shut everything down and I know a lot of like my colleagues They just moved into their parents place. They went back home. They're chilling. They're doing nothing waiting for shit to come back And all of us at the studio were like, oh, it's go time It's go time. We got an opportunity. This is an opportunity This is not the opportunity to sit back relax and do nothing This is an opportunity to go hard when everybody else might just be relaxing. So maybe yeah, maybe believing in yourself Um gives you vision And maybe not believing in yourself blind you know 100 percent That shit could be right in front of you and you will not see it because you don't believe in yourself to be able to Got your head down. You're moping. You're not paying attention. That's why two bucks. They keep your fucking head up Yeah, I'm saying you goddamn head to the sky like for real like I um I uh Yeah, it's hard to explain vision bro and I can't do it anymore and the reason I can't do it anymore is because I'm the type of person that likes to I'll say something. I'll be like, yo This is gonna happen. Yeah, all right All right, all right that person is next the only reason you might remotely catch me explaining it because we got a fucking podcast And we got a filler hour and a half other than that. I wouldn't I wouldn't care to explain shit to y'all motherfuckers I just rather show you I'd rather say it and then see it happen and then when it happens It happens. Yeah, you know because what happens when you have belief in yourself Your vision opens up so much that bro you really do start seeing What what could happen for everybody else? Yeah, I'm not even joking. Yeah, that's why that's why the person people think that the uh The person that has success is the person that people Go to it's like no the person that people go to is the person that can see things that you can't see Not many people around me see things in me that I haven't seen in myself that have gotten me on The path that I'm currently on right and that shit don't be having nothing to do it radio don't have nothing to do with tv Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong. There are people that have definitely seen those things and be like damn could I do that? Right? You have to be that kind of person. Can you see something in somebody that they can't see in themselves? Can you see Something someone is doing and be like, yo, you know what that person really should be? Yeah, they should be doing that right And guess what? The person that you're talking about has to believe in themselves. Are they not gonna believe you? Yeah, that's what they have to believe that their ideas are good. They have to believe their ideas can be successful I remember uh Something the duval said to me once and it's something I always remember it's uh, if you can't change the situation change your perspective And that is What I take into everything that could ever happen in my life if I cannot change the situation change perspective I cannot do stand-up comedy right now I could just fucking Be angry and bitch about it all day and whine on instagram about how much I miss being on stage Or I could find another way to tell jokes or I could find another outlet reach even more people You've reached more people in the past four months than you have in your whole career I guess not even close But I wouldn't even be here if I didn't have that idea Right, I and I think that I gravitate towards because something I have in me already But he articulated it so well So now when I see this thing happen when I see stages shut down or even Anything it could be anything with podcast doesn't matter what it is My mentality is not to go. Oh, how fucked are we my mentality to go is how can I take advantage of this? Let's talk about it, right? Yeah, I like I like celebrating my people Let's talk about it because andrew did something that For years. I never understood Why comedians didn't do Because I always and you know comedians tried to explain it to me over the years and I just always thought that was whack the first person I saw do it was kevin heart, right? And what that is come out with new material all the fucking time, right? I I used to hear comedians say oh, well, you know, I took me years to do this I was set whatever whatever yada yada yada this and that and I'm like Rappers write raps all the time, right? authors write books all the time like All of this shit that's happening in the world every day. I listen to Comedians I y'all funny all the time, right? Why can't you go out and Give some of this shit out all the time andrew you did that you said fucking I'm gonna start giving some of this material away for us. It was cutting up your stand-up specials Then it was man. Let me sit down And break down some of this shit that's happening during the week and just throwing it out there Yeah, you know how many comedians are scared to death to do that shit, bro Man, they should be it's a lot of work It's a lot of work, bro What's easy tell me what's easy nothing's working. Nothing good is easy. I will I will be honest nothing good is easy But uh, but not it is it is a lot of work, bro But you just put a lot of work, but it's effortless for you Thank you, man It's a lot of work, but it's effortless for you Deepak Chopra. It talks about the law of least effort The the most effortless thing for andrew shows to do is make a joke I appreciate that. That's just the truth That's your thing. I guess that so so even though it is a lot of work to sit down and do The easiest thing for you to do is make a joke. We actually try to get you to stop making jokes about every fucking thing Well, the god damn time if you take something serious just fucking once andrew shows I gotta shout out. I gotta shout out my guys, man Who do this to do the monologue with me alex media and mark and robbie And miles, you know just for putting into work every single week because that shit is a lot of work A lot of sacrifice a lot of angry girlfriends. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you Well, it's a lot of angry girlfriends over here, bro. We got pissed off wifey's Hey, don't think for one second I'm not offering y'all some god damn money to come in my writers We got you Let's talk about diversity in the in the writer's room. We got some white boys in there. I got that. I need some wild ass white boys I need I need some wild ass white boys that are in here challenging. I'm still I'm not even joking when I say this bro, I need I need enough Of everything and I want this to be a lesson for everybody You need enough of everything to keep you centered. Yo, can I explain some shit to you bro? And I mean this sincerely and this is why And I'm not saying this is like some like liberal talking point. I promise I am not I'm telling you this as someone who is Has experienced writing these monologues every single week When you have a diverse group of opinions you have a better product The fact that these writers rooms for these shows Could only be one group of people Explains to me why they always have one opinion Yes, the reason why our shows or these monologues that we're doing is so good And they're the best. I believe they're the best monologue in the world right now hands down The reason why is because we go through person after person Different types of people different experience. We're on the phone. We're doing more research We are writing jokes so that we can get to the truth of the point of the point How All these late night shows are just a bunch of white dudes how they do It's like how snl is just a bunch of white people now They've diversified snl a little more but like it's mind boggling to me Why you wouldn't want to have different opinions because it makes the joke better makes it more nuance. It makes more specific Do you understand in order for everybody? First of all, I like moderate. I like center because I don't think that there's one thing that's Too much this way this much to the right. I don't I don't want to just be to the left I want to take it back now y'all You know I'm saying I want to do one hop this time right foot left thumb left foot left thumb cha cha real smooth That's all I want to do. I want to cha cha Real goddamn smooth and the only way you can cha cha real smooth If you go to the left a little bit go to the right. All right, take it back now y'all and then you Come back to the cha cha. That's all I want to do I want to cha cha real smooth And I promise you the world will be a better place if everybody knew how to goddamn cha cha slide Yo, you know why is because well at least when I believe when we were younger The left and the right were like this far apart right So the space in between was small So it was easy to be left and it was easy to be right because they weren't that far apart Now the left is here and the right is here You know why so so the space Is huge in the middle. So the majority of people Are in the middle. So when we make these pieces, we're speaking to the middle, which is the most reasonable way It's the people that just use a little bit of logic. That's it Speaking of logic when we're going to get to him soon But it's just a little bit of logic a little bit of object objectivity. Yeah, like people who aren't trying to passion some empathy But people who aren't trying to be right They just want to know what what what what the truth is to a certain extent and I'm not even saying that Everything I say the truth everything you say is the truth. All I'm simply saying is that when you have Everybody fighting over power You never really get to the point Because everybody's just fighting over power because it's not about the point It's about the power. It's about the power. It's not about the point It's not about actually getting to a level of understanding It's simply about no. I want power. My side is right. We need the power We need it's a tug of war. Everybody's tugging tugging tugging tugging when the actual Point to the matter is in the middle and you know who suffers When it comes to government when that happens the consumer fucking people the average person The average fucking because if you look at like our political views like if you look at the politicians that represent us right now They're they're catering to the extremes You got trump regardless of how you feel about trump. He caters to the extreme and Biden I don't know who the fuck he caters to I know a lot of people cater into him If this guy's even still alive, but you have like a bernie sanders who's even Who's possibly you know close to becoming president is represents one extreme of the political system Where's this center? Who's the guy or girl in the middle who's just fucking reasonable? They're not there because everybody in the center is a frayed of talking because if they say the wrong thing They get consumed by their party Chris Chris you was talking about this last night You had a good point to this edge at chris jumping I mean wouldn't you argue that obama was essentially a centrist? But we're seeing this radical because it was so I think obama was if anything a little right of center He was I agree obama was absolutely a centrist But and and they radicalized him because of his skin color Of course, but when you also look at obama you look at the people that came out to vote for him And you see a lot of people cross the aisle Yes, I saw a lot of people and they crossed the aisle because they felt that they were represented by him He's reasonable. He was he's logical same with clinton Clinton did the exact same thing. You saw a lot of people cross the aisle for clinton back in a day I don't remember clinton. I wasn't I mean I was I was old enough, but I wasn't giving a fuck. Well bill clinton ousted bush I mean it's hard To win the presidency when you have an incumbent Yeah, you know, so it's like who's I believe fresh off a war didn't bush go to war Yeah, I mean Biden is a centrally a centrist if we're being honest. Yeah, you're right about that He is but you just don't know anything about Biden's policies. You're just not sure what the fuck is very conservative to me But I guess I guess he's a centrist I mean obama and it's funny because I was just having this conversation with somebody this weekend If if those people who listen to fox news Actually didn't listen to fox news, but actually listened to president barack obama Maybe like I like this guy He's he's more in tune with us than Then we might be we might be thinking just because he goes to war He kills tons of muslims. Oh, he didn't believe in gay marriage. So the second term didn't believe in gay marriage He's talking about his fuck on immigration. If you just said those things republicans might be like, yo, this is the dude But he's willing to listen to everybody now Here's the thing about that being a president that's more centrist does not get you remembered in history It gets you appreciated in my opinion. It gets you appreciated in the moment but in history You end up letting down both parties So they kind of look back and you go, oh, well, he didn't do enough for us and then other parties They go, oh, he didn't do enough for us Whereas a guy like reagan who democrats look at and they go, oh, fuck man This guy completely screwed us over look what he did to black neighborhoods and putting Drugs in the communities, etc And then you have republicans look at reagan go. He was the he was the consummate conservative professional He was a true president. I'm a reagan conservative, etc So for longevity, maybe it's better to pander to your party But for now to take care of your people now and to make the people happy now during your presidency Maybe it's better to be centrist You think that's off chris No, I mean, I think the problem is when there are centrists, we still treat them as radicals is the problem And I think obama is the perfect example of that like obama I have you know, he's not left enough for me But to the right he was a radical. He was a communist. He was an agent. He was born overseas. So it's like I think You know, ultimately, I'll take a centrist right now My preference would be to go way left at that I take a centrist in a heartbeat right now because I think we have to center the ship. Yo Yeah, I just I just want somebody that listens to everyone. Charlotte. Here's a question. Mm-hmm How much should we sacrifice? in our presidential in our presidential selection like I understand we should be selfish in who we choose to be president of the united states But should we also be selfless? So should we also go? Okay? I don't really care about this thing or I or this thing does this issue doesn't matter to me by understand it really matters to these people And I can support this guy who's looking after them How much do we sacrifice in our decision is what I'm trying to say? Well, it depends on what position You're in in life. Like I've always said, you know, vote my interest I'm gonna vote my interest and my interests happen to be, you know, black people I'm just honest about that. You know, and and I care about, you know, the the economic equality Of of black people But if there's something that Um can benefit other oppressed and marginalized groups anything to help people like it don't even matter like if something is going to help and I see that there's somebody who can get in position and Implement some policies that's going to help people. Yeah, I'm all for that Yeah, I wonder I wonder if that like If if Trump had a if Trump had a universal health care plan Yeah, our universal basic income that I know Immediately would impact this country, right and and help people I would be like Yeah, what with that? What if we like educated my own if I vote for him I don't want to tell I don't want to tell people how to vote But like what if we educated people on the expectation Of voting, you know, like one thing I'm always trying to manage in my relationship is expectation You know, like if I tell my girl, I'm gonna be available all week And then I'm not she's gonna feel way worse than if I tell her I'm not available all week And then all of a sudden I become available a little bit right because the expectation I said So if we tell people hey your president has to agree with every single thing that you want and then they're a good president The people will always be let down Maybe that's I mean that's bullshit But you know what I'm saying like maybe we should tell people like yo have the things you really value And choose the president that's gonna touch on those things But understand he's not going to be perfect or she's not going to be perfect There's gonna be some things that y'all disagree on and that's okay because there's 300 fucking million people in this country But yeah, I mean they do it all the time when they vote these bills Whenever you talk to somebody about who voted for the 94 crime bill if you ask bernie sanders You voted for the 94 crime bill Disproportionately impacted black and brown people Or you say that joe biden you wrote the 94 crime bill the first thing they'll say to you is There was so much other things in the bill There was violence against women acts and there was this and there was that so they were willing to make the sacrifice In regards to black and brown people being disproportionately impacted By this bill in order to lift all those other things up. So yeah, they do it all the time. So why shouldn't voters? Yeah They're willing to make those sacrifices and vote for things that they specifically want so why shouldn't voters fuck? Yeah, I'm with that. I wonder if we'd be happier if we looked at it like that I really wonder if we just go. All right. Listen. What I care about is these two things Like I know there's a lot of people out there that are like single issue voters They they believe that abortion should be illegal and whatever candidate is saying that they're gonna get rid of abortion They're voting for them. They don't give a fuck about anything else on the platform and I don't think that that's I don't know if that's necessarily smart for like the greater good of america But I wonder if their expectations of their candidate Are far less and therefore they're much happier as long as they try to get that single thing that they're interested in Across I I got two things. I want right now. What's that? I want I want an economic Equity package for black people, you know, whether you want to call it reparations or whatever you choose to call it I want to see This country atone for this original sin with your slavery. Yo imagine Biden wrote the crime bill and the reparation bill What's wrong with that? That'd be that'd be hilarious in terms of like evolution Well, he could write the bill as president, but he would actually be the one signs it into law. That would be a wild That'd be some wild growth He should if you give the fuck about what happens to him after he died. Yo, think about this if he ended up doing that We got to get rid of cancel culture because it shows How much people can grow and it shows redemption within your lifetime If I'm Joe Biden and I and I've been saying this if I give a fuck about my legacy Yeah, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna be making policy commitments to these people in these communities that I harmed And when I get into the white house I'm gonna be if Barack Obama was was John F. Kennedy I'ma be linden b. Johnson linden b. Johnson Was probably the most progressive Racist he's the most progressive racist of all time. That's what I'm saying But what can you deny? Can you deny the rights act of 1964? Can you deny the voting rights act? Can you deny putting Thurgood Marshall on the supreme court? Like and matter of fact, he did three civil rights act. It was a three. It was the civil rights act of um 64 and then he did the civil rights act of 68, which was like the housing the housing housing rights act or some Like Look it up. Have racist created the most progressive policies Probably because they probably came to they fucking census. Yo, you think they're sitting there. They're just like we fucked up, bro This shit was hard 48 laws of power Never put too much trust in friends learn how to use enemies When you hire a former enemy a former enemy will go harder for you because he's got more to fucking prove Interesting. You never know these people get older and they realize like yo, we fucked up a lot of people, bro Yo, that's interesting a lot of families a lot of people are dead because of us Let me get my fucking soul right and do what I need to do That's interesting because like somebody who doesn't Someone who isn't racist doesn't feel the same need to atone for a sin because they didn't call they didn't commit the sin Does that mean you know what I mean? Like you're not like I don't feel Any responsibility of racist because I'm not racist But I understand what you're saying but think about it from this perspective as well If you're a white person and you have Watch it. Watch this. Watch this. This is what I was trying to say if I came from a racist ass family Right and like my my parents and shit were racist and I grew up in this racist environment And I was the first person to not be racist I think I'd go above and beyond because I knew what I was fighting against absolutely But I came from this like progressive loving family. So when I see races, I'm like, oh, that's just that's just a couple people I don't realize that that's a lot of people That's what all white people should do, especially if you're hanging out with some racists No, so they realize that if you're a white male that maybe you do need to hang out with some racists Change their fucking minds But if you're a white male who has a privilege If you're if you're in a privilege of position I'm near in a privileged position and you have that privilege and you have that power Treat every other oppressed and marginalized group Like you do when you get on a plane and you see somebody struggling with their back Let them put it up because it's corona and we're not doing that I ain't putting your bag up full of corona Every man you're a piece of shit every man when I see certain people get on the plane I help yo you need help with your bag whether it's an older woman an older man What if it's a lesbian? What if it's a lesbian and it's like the tough lesbian? It's the book I got to look at the biceps, baby Are you gonna help the bunch? Are you gonna emasculate the lesbian in front of her? I gotta see what the biceps look like What the biceps look like? I'm looking at the buys and the tries Okay, what if the buys and the tries? What if the buys and the tries are not it? But she got a shave side of her head. I'm always helping By the way, when I get on the plane and I see somebody in front of me It's two reasons. I'm always helping right I got three kids You know I mean that's number one. All right number two is just common courtesy Right and and by the way some people get offended by that. I don't need your help. All right I didn't say you need it. I just offer it. I wait to see them struggle a little Like everybody there's two girls will let you know if they want if like they want you to help because they'll like go for the bag and they'll be like Make sounds and shit I've only wrote on a plane like twice this year, but the new shit I've seen is They'll tell they'll have their bag. Yeah, they'll put the hand on the hips and they go, huh. Yeah, they'll look around Yeah, they start grunting making noises and shit. Yeah Well anybody help and it's not it's not just women. I do it with older guys. It's just anybody that I feel Could possibly use my assistant. I can't do it to a dude, bro. I can't I can't disrespect even an older guy No, no, no, why the disrespect? I'll let an old man leave his oxygen tank up there. I'm not taking that shit down, bro I would never disrespect a man by taking his shit down Whoa, bro. That's a man, bro. You can't get another man's luggage out the thing I once saw an old man get dragged by his luggage around the luggage conveyor belt thing Because he was trying to he was trying to get his bag and his bag got him more than he got the bag He just fell on the bag and I was like, he don't figure it out. That's a man Men figure out problems like this. It's not my responsibility. That's not my responsibility, bro Did he look like he was Superman in that hole? What The moral of the story is I think that whenever you have privilege Whenever you have power Whether you're a white man black man, whatever it is if you can help Somebody else do it. So to your point, even if you aren't racist You see what the fuck's going on in america If you see how you can help help and that goes back to my whole original point that I was talking about how we enjoy watching Car crashes Yeah, when the simplest concept andrew literally the simplest concept Is to help not hurt It's just that simple Help not hurt That's it. How are you helping every day, bro? You know, it's crazy. We can't even help without videotaping it now. Yeah Oh, I hate them type of people. You know what I really do not like man. The shit pissed me off You ever see those you those videos were like the kid Gets the poor kid in school a bag of clothes I hate it And like he got to do a whole video outing the poor kid as poor to the whole world And then house of highlights reposted espm reposted and the whole world knows how fucking broke this one kid is now It's like, why can't you just give him a bag of clothes and not say shit and then everybody looks like the kid came up Remember that fuck nigga? I'd randomly screamed out early in the podcast That was again this moment. You gotta warn me before one of them come out Bring that back. In fact, I'm not even gonna say that. I'm gonna say fuck boy. I hate people who do that I really do yo. I can't stand that and I get it back. You need And I I get like, you know, some people say, oh, well There's so much negative out there. Sometimes, you know, you want to broadcast the positive to show people You know, it'd be more g it's showing us more g when it's more g when people talk about That's it. Let the rumor let the rumor go, bro That's it I don't gotta I don't gotta do it. Like, you know, the like that one time I gave A quarter million dollars to South Carolina State University When I opened up the scholarship in my mom's name The only reason I went on the field with that big ass check Is because they explained to me how This helps other people donate to the school Yeah, you said an example. Yeah, and it was and it was literally like five other people before Me and like one other person after me O.G. Jim Clyburn Who when I tried to tell him Now, you know, you know, O.G. You go first. He goes Nah, nah Go go up there with your 250,000. Yeah, I'm like, all right. Hey, O.G. All right. Go up there with my check Show the 250,000 dollars. O.G. Jim Clyburn comes after me 1.3 million dollars I'm like, hi Sutton is my hobby ballin is my hobby. I see you O.G. I wasn't mad at it But the reason they were doing that and they put on that big show is just to encourage Other people to donate right I don't necessarily believe those videos Maybe it does. I don't know. Maybe it does encourage people to help when people record themselves I don't know. I'm just I don't personally like it, but I ain't knocking nobody for it. Do your thing Yeah, I I agree. It's like maybe it gets more poor kids clothes and in the long run that's good because I'm not getting them to close, but At the same time I look at it. It's like it's kind of exploited, bro It is I don't like seeing people profit off other people's pain Unless it's jokes. I really don't Unless it's who? Unless it's jokes because them shits are funny, bro. It depends. It depends Also, I feel like if people some discipline, um What do you say devil's advocate or whatever? Yeah, um, regular devil's regular devil's advocate to play philly sixer Not white devil's advocate. Um, maybe this makes other people aware of what's going on too though You're right, you know, I mean people bring awareness and that helps more in the long run Yeah, and sometimes you gotta do some, you know, shit I'll be honest though If I ever give a quarter million dollars to anybody the world is gonna know about it I promise you that much i'ma carry that check with me for a week I'ma carry like a surfboard wherever the fuck I go that check is coming with me My daddy took it me My daddy took because I was home in South Carolina and I had it in my mom house And my daddy said I ain't never seen no shit like this in my life Knowing him you probably tried to cash that mother Of course he did I would if I found that I should I walk right into chase bank like yo Yo, you got this Especially down south. You're like, yo, look here. Look at how big big money comes on big checks Excuse me, excuse me big money coming in. Excuse me You know what I take that back I don't knock nobody if you want to if you want to videotape your good deeds do your fucking thing Because if it encourages other people It is when adrian Bronner be doing that shit. I'm not here for it. What you know what? I'm gonna tell you what I don't like I don't like when they do it to homeless people. Yeah Because homeless people already in a fucked up condition, bro Like don't do that to them man Like how do you know that this person wants to be seen on camera in this way? I mean, they're on the street. Don't do that They're on the street, bro Don't don't they already probably don't have and I don't want to say they don't have no dignity because I don't know These people these people might Be the most happiest people in the world. He might have their head held high. I'm just saying I wouldn't do that there I'm not gonna put their condition. That's the same thing with the poor kid at school though It's like he don't want you to videotape it like now when he wears any all that shit the next day Like everybody's like, oh, yeah, that's the clothes that john gave you. Let him just be fly By the way, I wouldn't donate nothing to you poor kids at school because You look at instagram Ain't none of y'all motherfuckers poor y'all kids be balling When is the last time you seen a poor kid in a high school? You can't be boring on instagram. Yeah, but maybe yeah When the last time I think there's still poor kids left No, I know that they are but be an instagram you cannot find bro You know what you got to do if you're poor you got to get a good body so you could just not wear a shirt What do you mean like if you just have ripped abs and shit All the every time you're on instagram just be shirtless because then you can get ripped abs from not eat Exactly. So now you're not eating you got all these ripped abs And then you don't need to spend all this money on fucking shirts and hoodies and all that shit Just be on the gram flexing with your shirt off That's kind of a way of getting around poverty when you think about it I would I would do that if I had a smartphone, Andrew say what I would I would love to be on instagram flexing But i'm homeless. I don't even have a phone Are we talking about kids in school? I don't go post keeps getting moved with these poor homeless kids, okay I'm just calling. I'm just talking about the poor kids school. Also You're in the bubble, bro Why don't they ever share the video of like when they give the poor kid the backpack of clothes and the poor kid Didn't know that he was bummy until he got the clothes Like I'm not gonna lie homeless and this hurts the fuck out of me that share hurts to see somebody living on the street Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to especially in america and especially when it's a fucking veteran Yo, you mean to tell me I went to fight for this goddamn country and I don't got shit to show for it Yeah, I feel like if you went to fight for this country if you was in any war You should get taken care of for the rest of your life It really would not it really would not cost much to take care of no veteran bro Make sure they got make sure they got room and board make sure they got money for food every month Give them a stipend make sure that their bills are paid make sure they got proper health insurance Like what the fuck yeah, you give your life your life should be taken care of I think one thing though And you know, you probably know about this from your work in mental health is that Um, a lot of homelessness is due to mental health. It's not my shirt Ah, I see therapy is dope right, but um Yeah, man It's like a lot of these people on the streets are crazy and then you know Their family dies or they lose their family and there's just no support system for them And it's it's really tricky and that's why America should be that support system Well, that's the thing if you if you attack mental health you actually save a lot of problems Like you save You know, you solve the homelessness problem at least a lot of it, you know, you solve A lot of the uh, what's it called, you know, prison a lot of this prison reform that you want to do A lot of these people that keep going to jail that keep ending up in jail are suffering from mental illness So if you attack mental illness, you could solve a lot of prison stuff You could solve a lot of homelessness You gotta get to the root of the problem, bro We keep dismissing it. We keep dismissing people as fucking crazy. Um, they are crazy We're really, I mean, I don't like to use that word, but I I get I get what you're saying, you know, I mean, um, we're we're also in an era where people don't have empathy Right. So when you don't have empathy, you don't give a fuck about what somebody else is feeling Not even thinking about it I've been probably depressed Like and had real bad anxiety for like the past and it's like June Like really bad like ever since jazz died and my man shacking anguilla He he committed suicide and then just like It's almost like I can't allow myself to feel good at a time like Like meaning like if anything good, if anything good happens, right? Like if like like if something if I know something good is about to happen in my life I have PTSD immediately kicks in like all right. So where's the uh, Where's the other shoe that's about to drop? Where's that? Where's that? Somebody's go, yo, I'm to the point now when people call me if you call me back to back I'm like, man, hold the fuck up man. Let me see and I'm I'm bracing myself to hear some bullshit You understand what I'm saying? But that shit keeps you in a constant state of anxiety keeps you in a constant state of PTSD I have these extreme highs and extreme lows. I'm talking about extreme highs I'm talking about waking up on a Saturday morning Feeling light and good like I'm on a fucking pill like yes And then the next Saturday I'm in the backyard like I don't know if I want to hug this tree or I can hang myself from it Which which one is it like seriously? I'm serious and you got to laugh the fucking keep from crying out this motherfucker. Yeah, guess what? In the words of 45 It is what it is Is what it is What the fuck am I going to do? I do everything I go to tear I go to therapy I talk to my sacred purpose coach. I read I Exercise I got a beautiful wife a beautiful family beautiful friends beautiful support system Sometimes you just can't escape what the fuck you're feeling You just can't Yeah, don't escape it just feel it. I think that's the biggest problem for most people is they try to escape it Yeah, after you can't run away from your feelings, man, they chase you but you got to acknowledge it lean into him You got to lean into it. That's what I'm like. I'm tired. I've been fuck. Yo since june. I've been fucked up Bruh, if you cannot change the situation Change the perception bro change the running away from those suicides man. See what you learned from them What did you learn from them? What has changed? What great things and I know it sounds crazy even say But like what great things have come to you from them what great? Realizations have come from what profound things have happened to you since then that you can use for your life It's like you could they could be a um an anchor that holds you down forever and stops you from moving Or they could be the you know the set of wings man I'm not all the way there yet, but I will say um it is it was something I was already working on that when when when jazz happened, which is so wild because When jazz happened literally the next day I was on a zoom meeting about this thing and then My man Shaq made his suicide later on in the month and um I uh, it just really it just made me like All right. Yeah, I'm I hate I'm on the right path. This is what I have to do It just makes me want to do more of the work. Good is what I'm saying It makes me want to double triple down on the work. I want to see so many black and brown people Men women going to therapy. I want to be able to provide people with the That help they need the resources they need like I want to see so many people Just go out there and start Getting to a place of healing in a real way g-herbo just did that Salute to g-herbo. Uh, I think it's called the I know it's called swerving something. I can't remember what exactly what the name of his organization is But g-herbo just launched his his his his foundation And I salute g-herbo because g-herbo's a young man, you know me and and and I didn't have a handle on my Emotions on my mental health when I was in my 20s. I wasn't even thinking about that shit You know, even though I got diagnosed with I know I didn't get diagnosed with anxiety till I was like 31 32 that's when the doctor told me like yo you Suffer from anxiety. You have panic attacks, right? So I didn't even know what it was so for somebody like g-herbo in his 20s to Actually already have a handle on it and already, you know Doing the work I gotta salute him because I'm gonna be honest with you if I hadn't started doing the work four or five years ago bruh I don't know if I could have got past. I don't know if I could have got through the last three months To be totally honest and I've been having I've been having that conversation, right like I've been thinking You know, what gets a person? to the point of suicide Because because because Think about it, right? Like you had to get up this morning and say i'm coming to the studio Yeah To do this podcast. What what what gets the person to the point where they say I'm leaving the day. I don't even like checking. I'm checking out. I don't even like going down that path, man I don't either. I don't even like thinking about that But I I don't either but I can't sit here and act like You know, you don't think about it sometimes, you know, especially when you've had Two friends do it like you like what What got them to that point like I know both of these people these people that I like jazz is my girl like, you know Real way and you know, she got diagnosed with depression when she was 19 And you know, we always dealt with anxiety and everything throughout the years We'd help lift each other up But what gets you to that point where you're like today is the day i'm out bruh You get to a point same thing that happened to tape mar same thing like I have a few friends that suffer with depression and I know with one like I feel like they think it's never going to get better But one has a child and that's what keeps them like keep going and stuff like that But yeah at the same time um I know someone else that had a child and committed suicide And I guess they felt like they didn't deserve to even have their child almost like And I think you just have I think it just hits a point like I guess it's one of those You keep taking you keep taking it and then Yeah And listen, I don't want nobody to think shalom in the god is suicidal. I'm not suicidal in no way shape or form What i'm trying to tell y'all is You you it's death is constantly death has been on my mind for the past two months In a real way, but that's only because I know that there's so much death around her You know what i'm saying like the whole year has been rooted in death Yeah Kobe and I mean I can go back to nipsey last year, but this year kobe coronavirus George floyd a mod arbery jazz Shaq it's like what the fuck is going on out here in these streets They don't pop smoke like all this they like what the hell you hear you hear all of these random stories one year old's getting killed I'm like yo, what the fuck is going on so it's hard not to always constantly think about Death and think about your own Mortality and yo, honestly, it does it takes you it gets you in a dark place. It does make you depressed It does it absolutely does it makes you depressed it makes your anxiety be at an all-time high It makes your ptsd go crazy. What'd you say tale? I did you oh could I was feeling like depressed? Like a couple months ago just seeing all these deaths just keep happening i'm and i'm person death is always sadly on my mind and especially this year and It's um, like we use this thing sure. I mean, I didn't cut you off Not good. I mean, I'm only gonna listen when people like tailor hit me People like page people hit me and you know, they being a little funk and I the first thing I say to them every time is like look Please don't tell me you about to kill yourself because I cannot handle anymore goddamn Death to someone I'm serious, but it sounds crazy, but I'm being honest like right Let's talk this shit to fuck out Let's figure it out like you need me to call somebody for you because I'm not the person that's qualified to have that conversation I'm the new jersey license plate. I can get you to new york. All right I could I'm just a sign I could tell you what you might need to be doing and what you need to be doing It's sitting down and talking to somebody but I'm telling you a lot of people have been going through it the past few months bro and and and That's the other thing that gives me um Encouragement and up lifts me is when I'm talking to people who are way In a worse place tonight Because mine really is just coming from a place of sadness Right. I'm sad. I'm being honest. I'm sad. I'm sad. Right. I'm sad like I'm I'm I'm sad, right? So I go through these moments where I can be happy and joyous and laughing and with my people and then Start thinking about the bullshit. Yeah, like god damn it and I say to myself. I was like fuck jazz really day Like shit. Fuck shack really dead and then I still find myself reaching for my phone The text jazz and shit like it's like that shit is crazy. That shit is really uh Yeah, that shit can really take you in a bad place, man. Yeah, we ain't got no bills to pay. Yes, we did Fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here Hey, by the way, uh, this is not an ad even though we are about to pay some bills Chris had a good point. So And Taylor had a good point. So we're just adding this in man. Uh, the national suicide prevention lifeline Um reach out and touch 1-800-273-8255. They're available 24 hours a day You know, they got English and Spanish, but it you know, if you need somebody to talk to man You know, they provide free and confidential support for people in distress You know, everybody may not have us a support group of friends or a therapist like I do I literally and it's so interesting. I just went to my phone and it was page texting me saying Hey, your therapist is available tomorrow at three. It's actually the first time I'm going to see her in person Since this whole pandemic Which should be very helpful. But yeah 1-800-273-8255 National suicide prevention lifeline shows pacing bills. 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Yeah, you sure he mentions it All the time. Oh, okay. Can you pick up on my sarcasm? Oh, I got it now I didn't I don't know what's the name of logic's new album called um For you. It's his last album um, you're retiring Uh I don't like to dismiss anybody's feelings. Okay Because I wouldn't what's it called? No pressure. I think no pressure. I don't okay. I wouldn't I wouldn't want anybody to dismiss mine It's just that when I hear um, and I'm not saying this is logic at all. I'm just telling you how I'm I'm feeling about this situation when I hear people say certain things when their albums come out I don't know if that's how they really feel Or if they're just doing it because it garners some type of attention some type of promotion, you know last time Uh logic put out an album I don't know if it was the last time but it was recently and he he dissed me on the album Not it wasn't a diss. He just had some bars for me and he said something like to the effect of You know, he don't do breakfast club interviews. Charlemagne is rude and then he bought up me saying he was homophobic Which I never actually said what I Did was I got some bad research clearly because somebody In the prep sheet had said that Logic had said in a vlad tv interview that he would be uncomfortable to listen to a gay rapper or something to that effect So I did what anybody does when they're interviewing somebody I asked him About those comments And we can play a clip of it. You got it. You got the clip tail. Yeah, let me hear it Your father was a crackhead, right? Oh, he was he's doing good now. He's doing so right now, but it's crazy That's why honestly me because I don't I don't smoke weed. I don't drink which is fine You can do whatever you do. I think it's good in moderation But me, you know witness and my mother getting her ass Well by man as a as a child totally wrong clip. Um, I was leading up to that Okay, round of applause to tailor for totally playing the wrong clip That had nothing to do with what I was discussing just now Okay, I mean literally I'm sitting here and I'm like, you know He said that I called him homophobic and I didn't call him homophobic And I'm like tailor you have the clip of me asking him about the homophobic thing Charlemagne's vlad tv if you think if you think you're confused I mean Imagine what the rest of us are feeling right now I was going somewhere at this tailor just gave away The climax to this whole conversation Immediately tailor We'll get to that show we'll get to that this let's let's hand it a homophobia part for us. Okay. Wait. Do you have that part? Here we go That's all you do an interview with vlad tv and you said that uh It would be very uncomfortable for you to listen to a gay rapper talking about kissing a dude Did I say that? I don't know I thought you said you saw it charlemagne Yeah, you said you saw it on vlad tv I don't think I said that because I said that Shout out to one of my My favorite people of all time in the world ricky my stylist who is a gay man. Don't look at make it look I am very comfortable with my sexuality. I'm comfortable with the gay community. I believe in all people I will say I don't know exactly But I was listen, I was so wrong. All right Now by the way, I saw that headline somewhere Right, but I didn't actually listen to the audio clip So I don't know if he actually said that or not, but that's why it's a question And when you ask a question in the interview then a person can dismiss it. It's not like I said logic You're homophobic. You said that you wouldn't kiss a person yada yada yada I don't think you asked him a question. I think you just said it. I think you were like you you said in a bad Interview I lied. I did it. I did an interview a trick I acted like I saw something. Yeah Because I was so sure that whoever put this in my prep sheet. Yeah had to have watched it Right. Yeah, we ever put whoever put this in my prep sheet had to have watched it So they had to know what they're talking about to say I wasn't telling that was it I don't know who was doing the prayer probably was it was it definitely an intern, but I don't think it was teller I really thought you were about to drop one of them. Fuck No, no, no, no, because it's not that far This was like 2014 I was never here when I wasn't there yet No, let me say you bet because that's my fault But that's what you do, you know, you trust the people around you So if that's in your prep sheet and you see it and you're like, oh, that's interesting But I bought it up as a question or I lied and said I saw it He was like, I don't think I necessarily said that so if it pops back up that he did say that Then he's lying, right? But for the meantime, I'm wrong. He's not even lying. He's like, I don't think I said that Well, you were lying about saying I was lying about seeing it. So it's just everybody's fucking bullshit All right, but in that instance, I He's absolutely right If he wants to say I was trying to label him homophobic and he wanted that's worth some raps Cool, I'm not mad at that. Slew to you logic now This part This part has nothing to do with logic a little bit because I saw logic's interview to do with Rob uh with my man Rob Markman on genius and logic said On genius that you know, he respects me and I respect what I do yada yada yada But on the internet they took this clip. This should have been going around for at least four or five years They take this clip and it starts with who raped your sister And a lot of y'all don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that I don't talk about that so it makes it seem like I just pulled that out of my ass I just pulled that out of the sky when the reality is He mentioned someone sexually assaulting his sister Twice in that interview And he's wrapped about it in his music just like he talks about his Father being on crack or whatever. So there's context to it Let's play the clip again because people have forgotten about it. But not if they hear it Taylor your moment to shine go Taylor Taylor He was he's doing good now He's doing good now, but it's crazy. It's all about experience. That's why honestly me because I don't I don't smoke weed I don't drink which is fine. You can do whatever you do. I think it's good in moderation But me, you know witness and my mother getting her ass whipped by man as a as a child dealing with the aftermath of my sister's being raped things like this Do your family members get upset and uh, you put their life out there like you said your sister's got raped Great question. I think um, I think that they understand because I've spoken to them I don't out nobody. I don't I have a lot of brothers and I have a lot of sisters It's kind of a culmination of of all our stories as a whole I talk about it on the out. Who the hell raped your sisters? Oh, man. I don't want to get into that Now Andrew you're an honest person Right, Andrew you're an honest person Tell me if I was out of line No Why wasn't I out of line because I see people In context, right? I can understand if you just See that from the end where it's like who who the hell raped your sister and I don't want to talk about that I would even go so far as to say I'm not saying this because you're my friend because I think it's really funny when you Ask questions that you don't mean to ask and I like making funny for it That being said If somebody brings up the fact that their family member was raped and you don't follow up that question Doesn't that seem like you're being insincere in the interview? Like you're having dinner with somebody or you're having any kind of conversation They bring up a traumatic thing out of nowhere that you didn't ask They bring it up And then you should go well. Anyway, what do you think's going to happen with the super bowl? Yes, and then they bring it and they bring it up again. So I'm like, okay, clearly this person Wants to talk about it and and when I when I asked him I said, hey, you know, you're um You know, do your family members get mad at you? You know when you very reasonable fathers are a crack or your sister That's their business. You're sharing it. Yeah logic actually said great question Then he answered what I asked him. So when I came back, I said, well, who the hell raped your sister? I Asked that question because I just assume You've thrown it out there a couple times. Maybe you want to maybe you want to out some family members Or maybe you want to out the piece of shit. Did that to your sister? I don't know But the fact that you said it twice in an interview and you've rapped about it is the reason I asked you So, you know, it's this time that has nothing to do with logic even though I feel like When he wasn't in the interview with Rob Markman Logic, no, I didn't ask him that question out of context I didn't know that like, you know, I didn't just randomly ask him that question He said that you asked him out of context Well, he said that, you know, yes, y'all may have to be wild shit. Like, you know, who raped my sister What am I doing for the black lives matter movement? Or he he said I was homophobic. I'm like, I didn't Say you were homophobic. I was wrong. Can I ask you a question? Yes Uh Because this is where I thought you were going with it and I don't know if you were I thought that you were assuming that After he suggested that his mom was abused by his dad That possibly his dad abused his sister. I was thinking it was something in the family. That's yeah, that's where I thought you were going with Yeah, I was just thinking it was something in the family. That's that's why I said, well, who the hell If you said that's what I was thinking it was something in the family There was about a family conversation and dysfunction of his family. Exactly. That's all that's all. I mean, I didn't want to just say Hey Did your father have your sister in the family memory? You know what I mean? I was like, well, who the hell Rape your sister? Let me open it up and he said he don't want to talk about it Cool. It's not like I pressed the gas on it. All I'm simply saying is he mentioned it twice in the interview That's why I asked it the ending that you motherfuckers are evil Because literally for the past four to five years They it's the same line Let's flash back to when charlamagne asked the worst question in interview history and it literally starts with me saying Who the hell raped your sister? So that's like yo, man, I got this thing man. I want to I'm I'm gonna post this later today It's just a quote and it's just a simple quote right here The version of me you created in your mind is not my responsibility So when people get really mad about me mad at me about shit and say oh, charlamagne's a piece of shit And this and that y'all created this version. Yeah, I'm not saying that I haven't given y'all plenty of ammo Yeah I'm just simply saying the times I fucked up Let me own that and get on my ass Which y'all really be reaching and making shit up and I just don't like um I just don't like logic feeding into that. That's all because logic. No, I didn't ask them that out of context But I mean from the marketing I've seen so far and it granted this is only the internet stuff to come up I'm not a uh, you know a connoisseur of logic or his music or any of that stuff Um and from everything I've seen just in like regular interviews. It seems like a pretty reasonable dude Nothing that really I Angers me about him. I tease him about the black thing and I because I understand he looks really white So as long as he makes sure that everybody knows he's actually black does he say the n-word and any raps or anything like that? I don't know Maybe he doesn't like if he did I would make sure I would let everybody know I was half black if that was the case right and next time I interview him I'll start with that when I'll be like so on your last album you said the n-word 72 times. Yeah How many times would you have said if you were full black? So logic though, man, I'm gonna be honest with y'all don't like um I didn't like I guess what I was trying to say is that like it seems to me like there's been a lot of like I'm the victim In the pr of this new album Like I just saw one thing pop up where he said the joe buddin makes people want to kill themselves and stuff like that And I was gonna say that I didn't like uh I didn't like that. He said that um, but if that's how he feels he has every right to say You know I'm saying and and and and I actually I hit logic up You know I mean I because my man Rob Markman Rob had said in the interview he was gonna connect us so You know connected us over the weekend and we text back and forth a little bit and uh, we're gonna talk soon but Yeah, I don't like people feeling like that like I can't dismiss his feelings. You know I'm saying like I can't sit here and tell him What makes him feel like he wants to kill himself or what makes him depressed, you know I mean, it's like can't nobody tell me what makes me sad and what makes me depressed So if it's easy to say yo have thick skin have tough skin, but what if he doesn't My racial skin might not be as tough as god damn Full hundred percent black or white I don't know See By the way, by the way, by the way real quick. I didn't have to say that just now. Yeah I'm a work in progress people I didn't have to say that I didn't have to say that. I don't even know why I said that I couldn't resist It was right there and something was saying don't say this Don't say that right now. Don't say it. Don't say it and I said it anyway. Yo, but can't we just Can't we just say cut that shit out like don't get me wrong I'm not trying to dismiss mental illness and depression and anxiety and all these things that come from a family that has Tons of mental illness. I'm very familiar with it from a young age. I've been very familiar. That being said Some of this shit is like, yo, cut that shit out, bro Cut that shit. No, you can't do that. I'm so you didn't get your favorite pair of sneakers. You're depressed cut that shit out You got a math test tomorrow. You got anxiety. Shut the fuck up cut that shit out We can't enable too much of it there's a lot of enabling going around and maybe that's because Like every corrections and overcorrection like maybe there was no awareness of mental health So now there's an over awareness of mental health and then maybe we'll settle somewhere in the middle Maybe that's the case. So maybe this is just like a necessary You know, uh, bridge that we have to cross and ever to get where we want to be But some of that shit is just cut it out be I I wish it was that easy shows and and and and the only and a reason I can't dismiss that is because Like I was talking about earlier. I don't know what gets people to that point to be Now, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what gets you to that point now To where you say, yo, you might want to end it all but I can honestly say I can see what for these kids It it pass it can't possibly be easier Because imagine imagine dealing with that shit imagine dealing with just the anxiety and depression and the low self-esteem and insecurities that come with life And we as human beings who are a species who always need validation Who always need to feel appreciated who always need to feel loved We go online and talk to all of these motherfuckers that don't give a shit about us We express these emotions and then literally it's thousands of people telling you kill yourself. Nobody's asking you to be online though That's a choice. That's asking you to make music. Nobody's asking you to do albums Nobody's asking you to monetize your life and exploit your life for your art No one's asking you if you are willing to do that you have to know the cost of that It's like all these famous people that like are upset that the paparazzi follows them around That's the cost of being famous and if you don't want to pay that price Then you ain't gonna gotta be famous. No one asks you to be famous No one ever said hey kim Kardashian or brad pitt or sarah jessica park or whatever We want you to be famous. No one ever asked y'all wanted that shit Unfortunately, it's not going to be just mansions and millions There's going to be a couple things that are annoying that you got to deal with So i'm got following you you with a camera when you walk out of a restaurant having the best meal you've ever had in your life I agree with that, but I think that when you Deal with mental health struggles and you're not at that place of healing You you you you may want to be in your life All of that added pressure all of that added judgment all of that added opinion It can push you it can push you over the I get it. Yeah, and I wouldn't I wouldn't wish that on nobody Nobody wants nobody wants. I don't want to see anybody hurt themselves I want to see any that kind of stuff and you know, maybe i'm less sensitive than the average person Just because I've dealt with the most severe versions of mental illness when I When I hear people like talking about how anxious they are because it's gonna rain tomorrow I'm like man, but maybe I should have more empathy. Maybe I should be like, okay They're learning what this is and they're gonna be able to like, you know Partition that shit out and find out what the extreme versions are and what the what the little stuff is I think you should have more empathy because you watched you watched the Decline right and you don't know how that happens. Yeah, I have to have empathy for that You know and I've seen this happen to other people before like you just like where did that decline come from? Yo jazz You know I'm saying so it's just like I have empathy because I don't know what What drives people to that to that to that that's fair You know what I'm saying? So it's like yeah as much as I would love to say man man to fuck up You got to have tough skin. Nah I don't know and I don't want to be responsible for you know What a person is feeling even if my intentions weren't that so that's that's actually one of the reasons, you know I can't wait to chop it up with him and that you know, he when we're all put us together That's what he said. He was like, man I really appreciate everything you do in regards to mental health He even said that in rob interview, but he was just like I would love to just talk with you about, you know Family and life and man when I see stuff like that, it's just like who would I be to throw my middle finger to that kid? I'll be like nah, I fucked that kid. I'm a form of 42 yo grown man Yeah, you know I'm saying like I have people around me in my life that Lean on me in that way even though I might be going through my own Shit, they lean on me in that way and even though he's not somebody I consider a friend I don't I don't know him like that if he's man enough to reach out in that way. Come on, man Of course, I'm going I'm going to reply back and have a conversation with that See, I almost said half a brother. I'm a asshole. I'm trying here. I almost say I literally I literally Thought about it. Did you see my brain working like don't fucking say it you said it you didn't just Why the fuck did I say that that's why nobody takes me serious That's what I'm saying. That's why that's that's exactly why nobody takes me serious But I trust me my intentions are pure and um salute the logic We're gonna we're gonna chop it up and we're gonna build soon. I really want to just bring everybody together In that space that's having these conversations about like mental health in a real way logic and g herbal and You know wale, like I would love to have everybody just come together and sit down with different mental health professionals like dr Rita Walker and you know dr Alfie noble and dr. Jessica Clemens and just everybody just come together and let's just Let's just chop it up and build create a safe space for people going through that shit right now, man For real. We should yeah, we should work on something where we get everybody together and I just go Yo, cut that pussy shit out Shut the fuck up Stop bitching and whining. Y'all a bunch of millionaires deal with that shit Money don't matter Say it is By the way, I can tell you something though. It's crazy as it sounds. Yeah Sometimes that shit works What man up? I've told y'all that story about the one time where I really really really really thought I was gonna kill myself and that was 2003 or four And this one I was like really in the like I was doing youth ministry at Muhammad Mars number 38 And I was really trying to be on the righteous path because my now wife had left me And I was like I'm gonna beat a man that she wants me to be so I was Really heavy in the religion and spirituality and doing youth ministry at the Mars and going to the baptist church I was all over the fucking place, bro Like I didn't know whether I wanted to be in pie or Bible. I was just everywhere with it, right? And I'm I'm I'm at my boy's house, so I'm not gonna say his name anymore because he's married now And I don't know if he's told this story to his wife But if you're a longtime burden to listen to you probably know who I'm talking about So we at the house and you know, we end up having a great time with two women Menagee twa action is going down And I thought that I Was going to hell. I was like I am going to hell. I just had Sex and I'm you know, I just I'm trying to give my life to God But I'm out here getting drunk and having sex. I was like, I don't deserve to live like I was on it like that and I don't know if it was I'm my my now wife or My boy frosty somebody called my pops and my pops drove an hour and a half from most corner Came to Columbia, South Carolina We sitting outside the step The steps of the apartment I was living in and I'm telling them what happened My daddy looked at me and my daddy said You mean to tell me I drove an hour and a half Because you got drunk and got some pussy You want to kill yourself because you got drunk and got some pussy Well, god damn it way to lick in the motherfucking women act because you got me stressed the fuck out now Hey, what the fuck is wrong with you? and That for whatever reason that put everything back Yo That put everything back in perspective. What do you say? Listen his next line after that was Uh, you ain't gonna always get shit, right? Sometimes people fuck up like what the fuck man smile, bitch Smile, bitch Come on Like yo, it's that simple Smile bitch. You know what it is though. I had an expectation of myself. There you go And I feel like I let myself down there it is If you can't change the situation change your perspective, bro Change your perspective on that menace to twine. Now you look back at that. You were like, I was pounding that push I don't even oh, I guess I I look back on it now And What I should have done in that moment was take my ass to the church Confess all my sins And and and repent Okay, that's what I should have done. But what did you do? Smelt your fingers all night? Smell our fingers with our dads. No Hey, hey the funniest part, right? I'm talking to my boy and I'm like, man, I can't be doing that no boy He said doing what I said, man, sleep with sleep with, you know Different women like I want to get married and do x y and z and I'm like Oh I didn't bother you the way they was talking to us Because you know, they was like get your ass in here. Take your pants like that type of shit and he was like No Smile, bitch Come on Didn't bother me who's this dude Exactly By the way, that's the hood though. Hey, that's the hood is the hood is like that though. The hood is like this nigga Tripping cuz this nigga, man Come on, bro. We over this bro. Shake it off. You just gotta shake it off It didn't bother you that you sound so concerned You don't even know what I was acting my life at that time. No, I was literally I was in the church I was in the mosque. I was trying to get into heaven You're doing everything you could to get to heaven and then I realized man now I understand this whole Repentance and forgiveness thing good boy Sinning is fun. It ain't fun. It's just too easy not to do it wasn't it isn't a sin. Is it a sin? Could you have sex say again? Yes, it's a sin. Oh god It's a sin if you cheat It's a sin if you were cheating. Yes. I wasn't cheating me and my girl were broke up It's not a sin to cheat Because I was trying to be the man that I wanted her to that I know she wanted He was trying to do some gay shit. So I don't practice bad habits Yo, we're together, but you're trying to be the man that she Yeah, because in my mind vision tailor vision I knew that we would eventually be together Right, so I wanted to prove to god Man, come on, man That I could be the person that is worthy of this woman that I prayed for my whole life Y'all told my wife that last night told my wife. I say I love I thought that this morning matter of fact No, I said I kissed her and I said I love you. I said I prayed for you Meaning I prayed for her about what what you pray I prayed for her. I prayed to have that type of Oh, I prayed I prayed for you Like I prayed for you. I prayed that before after you destroyed those boxes down there in South Carolina This was when were you praying? Did you did you spray some holy ghost? As part of that prayer I was just trying to be a good man Holy ghost Give me a woman that would do nothing that these ladies are doing right now The crazy part is I take those oaths just like I took a oath with myself in october of 2016 To be completely faithful to my wife, and I am that That's what I'm talking about light it up. I'm not gonna light it up. Hit the weed. I want to hear Taylor hit it You got anxiety from that time, but y'all were sitting together And you cheated and stuff like that. So why didn't you feel good? I was getting I was getting the anxiety it into I was just I was just testing the waters You know I'm saying I was I was pushing against what I knew was wrong And that's why I was I wasn't in a good headspace. I knew what I was going wrong. I knew space I knew I knew cheating on my wife was absolutely positively wrong. I knew that I knew that But how come you didn't have like anxiety like you didn't feel I did it was terrible But then why did you do it again then because that Neither That punani nani tsunami nami. What's that song? We just y'all we don't be knowing y'all men don't be knowing No, I know why I know why I don't know why we don't be knowing except when he knows Now he knows but we don't be knowing tell us why you know why I had a fragile ego I was insecure I had imposter syndrome I thought I had high self-esteem, but it really I had low self-esteem and I was feeding my ego with those other women That's what that was Because I always say men cheat for ego women cheat for Emo, which is emotional reason. Yeah It was all ego because sometimes that's men. We think that's what we're supposed to do We're supposed to be out here knocking them all down Until you get to that point in your life where you realize like nah women emo stands for emotional You didn't know that I thought emo was like eating me out Oh my god I thought this whole time it was like your boyfriend or husband isn't eating you out So you're cheating on a dude because he'll go down and eat the puss. There's a good joke there. There's a good listen Show seriously. Listen. There's a good. There's a good oral sex joke with ego and emo Okay, okay, because ego could be eat eat girls out Eat guys out eat guys out. Yeah. There we go Eat me out like there's something there with something there go emo thing. I was workshopping it I was workshopping it. Yeah something there tomorrow the story is uh, sometimes you got to try something new Before you commit to your own thing Oh my god, the moral of the story is be faithful to your women. Yeah, that's part of hey That's part of being mentally healthy I don't all you young boys do your thing But when you get to a certain age and you realize you got a lot to lose and by a lot I mean your wife and possibly your family. You don't want that and when taylor talks about the anxiety. Yes the anxiety of Watching my father lose his family because of his infidelity watching uncles of mine lose their families because of their infidelity That definitely gave me anxiety and I was like, I'm not gonna be that guy But that is that's when I made a conscious decision to really sit down and mind my motherfucking business and I Am going on four years Let's go faithfulness, baby. Let's go. Yes. I want a motherfucking medal for that. Let's go Why shouldn't I get a medal now? No, you don't get a medal. Anyway, look why not for four years You get medals for four years of sobriety. Yeah, you get medals for weeks of sobriety You cannot compare and vagina is way worse than drugs. Yeah Yo, that's true That's true. You've been sober from girls. You've been hober I get around other pussy and I go And then I fade away into the bushes You know how fade away into the bushes and go home to my family taylor You wish you had a hobo simpson, bro, you know, it's crazy charlamagne is you went from fading into the bushes to fading away from I'm just fading into a different kind of bush. That's all there we go. Look guys. Um, I gotta go Let's do it. Um, as always if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right If you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots. We don't know shit. You're right, too It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening