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These are the these are the scuba chats From beginning of Of 84 the legendary efap 84 That was a good one. I remember I recall people like him that one So someone said we sound low. We should not be Yeah, I haven't changed anything on my end. Yeah, um Uh The levels aren't peaking as much as they usually do and when I say peaking I don't mean actually like sounding like garbage, but OBS does tend to change stuff while I'm gone So I've boosted myself now and I can boost rags to make sure it matches. Just keep updating me in chat Let me know if uh If things aren't the way they should be because I constantly end up having to change it all the time I've completely about this before I complain a lot. Anyway, let me get started. I guess Uh, first one is high anomaly. Good luck today He was in that debate stream It is we'll we'll try and have him back sometime. Uh, I think people like uh, like like anomalies involvement I can't say that that is definitely the case for everybody that was there, you know, I'm sure we're gonna be Having to read out some super chats about that's gonna be fun That poop with the door open nice That's a way to start a stream. Merry Christmas. Sorry for the bad english Oh, no, you you nailed it Nah, christmas is a good one the best one. I wouldn't go as far as best, but you definitely nailed the spelling is what Hello massives glad i'm here at the start of the stream for once also high rags Hello, he and that's relevant now because it's the start of this stream Wonderful. Hey, that's some forethought. Why is the lame sidekick here? Where's adam? Uh, so reference to stitch not bad Good stuff. Hello n words also high rags Hello I've been waiting for this. Wow, they don't take the opportunity to do the the palpatine line What does he say? Long have I waited in the trailer? Long have I waited? I've seen a lot of people referencing the fortnight cut Also, I've boosted rags now as well Oh, was I quiet for whatever reason? Oh, well, it's not your fault. I'm pretty sure it's my it Oh, no, it's definitely not my fault. Oh, no But yeah, no, no, no, no, I might I may have boosted you too far now chat. Just let me know keeping an eye on All good Uh Then someone said I've been looking forward to this you've got a lot of people at the beginning of this stream That seemed very happy that the debate was taking place There was so I mean that was us. We were so happy. We were excited. These were such good people to get lined up Supposedly it was going to be amazing. Who else could we have got that would have been better? We thought as we looked at our plans as they were written on paper Rags is too loud now. Okay. All right. All right Eyeballing it here on the on the little levels, you know I'll put my I'll put my microphone closer so that I'm louder And now you guys in the chat can turn the video down And we should be fine We'll just tell just tell them to get closer Yeah, your ear closer to your uh, your your ear closer to your computer speaker And lean in Turn down the television You know Better okay, uh, hopefully It's working. I don't know. Um Often clinch boys cough and clinch. I'm not a hundred central Give such hell norms prequels are great Oh boy Um a debate on the prequels christmas has come early, which is objectively better than halloween That's true. I will I will fight the halloween war alone if I must Chats pretty they can be all over the place, but sometimes they're on a sometimes they they know what they're talking about I like the idea that you you might have appealed to like yeah chats usually write you like no I'm not gonna go there. There was a time They're they're gonna have to win back my uh undying confidence Hey mula, have you seen that they have the documentary rises of skywalker out and they wanted to use the whole second death star in the movie? Oh What? The whole second death star is that does anybody anybody in production Just show the clip to jj from return of the jedi does anyone just like have it on their phone like hey jj I just watched episode six Tins out it like got vaporized The judge is like what? You would assume that the people who are making star wars movies are really familiar with star wars movies They aren't nope. They clearly have no idea what they're doing As evidenced by how amazing the sequels are but you see that whole portion of uh Of the death star the judge is like more of it more. Are they like oh no less I need to get that. We actually need to get that clip. I can probably use that a whole bunch from my mando review I've got thinking I think I'm can squeeze in some mst 3k clips in there too. I know I can do it If there is no canon con there is only try that's what yoda said There is no can or can't there is only right well You can you don't have to try if you choose to not try then no try is done I'll try there is only But of what? How can we do do? Watch academic agents new star wars video Um, all right In fairness it would have been new two weeks ago academic agents Let's go to videos Two weeks ago Um looks like it could be Star wars in defense of palpatine's galactic empire Oh, I've heard about that All right, I think is it the whole like it's not as bad as you might think if if you can fear a lot about his His empire or something They blew up a planet. Well, maybe he's talking about everything before that Up to that point They kind of get us out of the wookies too. So it's kind of like a period of history from 2000 to September 10th 2001 Um Oh, wow vlc player stopped my future armor to tell me you guys are streaming Wow vlc is better than youtube. Is that something you can set vlc to do? Wow Like excuse me user your streamers are starting please Go look Yeah, since youtube won't notify you I figured I might um Hello rags and mola. I'm on my way to work now. So I have my whole shift to listen to you massives Well, I hope your shift was great two weeks ago. Uh, I hope that I hope everything. Yeah Uh angel season five episode nine. Why doesn't he go to europe? Doesn't For what? Oh, it's it's an angel questions. Oh Oh, yeah, I so I assume I know which character you're referring to he explains it at the end of the episode Um There's a couple of things going on there and then it gets reinforced uh toward the end of the season very This is about uh I want to be nice and vague because that's a pretty big spoiler So i'm just gonna yeah he he says if it's if you don't find it's good enough reason fair enough some people don't Yeah, um once more the prequel fans will rule the galaxy No I don't even know how to explain what the results of that debate was the the people who wouldn't even necessarily consider themselves Prequel fans had to become prequel defenders. So what does it mean? Hooray, what does it mean? We did our best and then in another stream we had to do it again Hooray People are gonna think that we think the prequels are good, which is why we have to defend them all the time I think we did a good job of mentioning a lot of criticism Cosmo one so I agree. I'm sure we're in the clear We we gave him a lot of advice that hopefully he takes to heart because as I said it was crap Some people have said we're cowardly when it comes to criticizing any stars outside of disney and I'm like, oh boy I want to go there, huh? Go there. I'll criticize. Okay. Luke has lesbian hair there. I did it Luke is only best friend hot Han Solo is A distant friend hot I think I've turned into Han Solo on the inside or I just Don't care and I don't want to be here Hello there. Hello screw naughty dog and the last of us two high rags Hello That seems fair Uh with everything that I've heard why is everything in the prequel quotable as evidenced by our prequel memes? I'm not sure exactly I made a joke that it should be studied, but I think it actually should be Like figuring out what it is about the prequels There's probably a lot of reasons you could cite like A lot of people watched it when they were so young. There are a lot of the lines in nostalgic and fun already That some of them are so stupid and the the joy Of taking a line and recontextualizing it in like some kind of meme and then realizing where it comes from What that's very simple. Yeah, it's it's easy humor, you know So you can start at the end you could start with the punch line and then work towards the beginning and it works Can you challenge you have nickels to netrunner? Netrunner, I do not know what netrunner is Netrunner is an out-of-print collectible card game designed by Richard Garfield. That's probably not what they mean Netrunner is an android netrunner. It's a living card game produced by fantasy flight games. I don't know board game Who knows Um, yeah, I don't know. There's no point in challenging dept to anything. She's not gonna dept. I don't think Uh general anomaly you are a bold one Yes, he is I see he'll face baby faces in the in the chat. Hello there. He's super chatted a unicorn Gay that was pretty gay, dude Uh rags says team tifa, but has he seen barrett? I think so. Isn't he the I am team tifa. Well, actually, let me check Let me let me let me Yeah, I'm on team tifa There you are All-time favorite e-faps So 50 is the common answer because it has 84 obviously it has so many it has so many good, uh The e-fap related highlights in In uh 50 we get through like all the sorts of classic things that happen Why I'm like 100 will never live up to 50. I'm sorry any expectations but Then then it splits apart into like favorite moments from different e-faps that Will pretty good. I actually asked the other discord yesterday I was curiosity and 50 was the most common answer, but there was a couple of other ones like The aiden one that led to isle of man. I think that was the quintin response one, of course That was wasn't that 54? I think so. Yeah, um, yeah, 54 was There's the pretty amazing the response to no bullshit was really funny Because that person like this uh that is The row robot head uh captain marvel well the whole captain marvel arc like three different streams the the legal legal one The I am that robby one like those videos are great Lots of different answers. Um, oh and 66, you know what 66 was good. We'll be right over Uh, the riser skywalker. It's just that like leaks. No, no the the actual feel like when we had like eight of us Whatever talking about the film and everybody. Yeah That was a good one Yeah What up my oh words that stands for orcs Rise and zero dawn coming to pc. Hi rags. Hello Hi molder. I don't mind super chatting, but as somebody who is privacy conscious Is there a way I could donate to you via cryptocurrency i.e. bitcoin? I have not got anything set up for that. I'm great, but um Don't worry about it. If like if you don't want to use any of the um YouTube or patreon or sort of the different ways the stream labs even Uh, just just out of concern for having to give account or whatever information. Don't worry about it. It's fine Appreciate all the support that comes in uh regardless But I know some people there's some people who will refuse to use a lot of platforms because of the fact They take certain percentages or because of the fact that they pick and choose allowed to get money and who isn't Lots of uh complicated decisions going on as as they do uh high anomaly Great say hi. Hi rags. Hello. Hi mohler. Hello and psych the others. Oh Also xmas I know right Uh, hello massives some brilliant news as of yesterday. I'm officially a dad The wifey's labor was shorter than the average efap. Oh hi rags Oh, hello. I should hope it was. Yes congratulations, and uh Yeah, uh, good luck with everything that comes with being a father As we've learned from stars, it can be difficult sometimes But i'm sure it won't turn out that way. No lightsabers involved during halloween never ruined rags grandma just saying The christmas didn't either. No, it wasn't christmas that did it. It just happened on christmas It just just happened Uh, mashala raggy b Hell, I suppose that means hello Uh, catif calico wishes me representative of the geosect to impart good tidings to you the representation of the dogguni sect Dogguni This is where the fun begins spank as this spank akin butt walker. All right Spank akin butt walker It's over spank again I have the spanky ground We don't get annoyed annoying overplayed halloween music playing on every station during october halloween all the way Southport knows what's up. He knows what's up High five southport christmas is better than halloween just like the prequels are better than the sequels I agree with the second portion of that Uh, can someone add palpatine's theme to a video called the jedi philosophy is a mess Why can't you do it? Yeah, you do it. It doesn't sound like it's particularly difficult Download them both put them together Easy Yeah, there you go. Oh, yeah for reference everybody metal commander is 25 follows away from committing to the movie bob challenge If you want to see someone explode live on television, um Go check it out. You can unfollow that and ditch him if you want. So here's the thing I don't know if I want to see that. Oh, well, I mean I I feel like it would be interesting. But yeah, no, I'd start if you don't want to see it You don't want to see uh Yeah For his health I I have serious health concerns about him eating a five and a half thousand calorie meal all at once Is he also belly you doing the time limit thing? Is it like once you once you pass the 90 minute limit? You just sort of go. Well, I lost Would you just like stuff it in there and you're like, no, I have to do from over my Well, I did finish this. I mean to be fair five and a half thousand calories from mcdonald's. That's probably a solid four dollars So you wouldn't want to waste that money and you got to make use of that time. All right You got to eat as much as you can as quickly as you can and then when you take that break you can absorb that You know good good like hour of digestion and then go again But it got it. This is this should be olympic events, but actually find it hilarious to go Um open our countries. We freaked out over a different flu only very old and fragile die. Oh my What suffering from Unemployed and hugger and hopelessness that getting sick cure worse the disease I don't know enough about it to be definitive But I know that a lot of uh Perspectives are clashing over this a lot of people are getting angry at each other over What is the correct thing to do and how long lockdown should last? Um, hopefully we can just create some entertaining streams in the meantime But move your bar Halloween is jewish propaganda The ti al I suppose That rags give this money to mohler all right um What That was like me. I think I have a stack of quarters here. Oh, thanks And I was trying to I was trying to do like a money sound. You know where I was taking these and I was Passing them over to you Changing hands This money does Take the money Give him hell gnomes ray j forever Ray j forever ray j Ray jester Because I agree their name should have been ray jester Dexter then again, maybe she's kind of she's kind of sullying the good name of dexter jester, isn't she so I don't know about that actually That man that man did a lot for uh the world Now shout out to all the brave protesters in michigan hashtag free michigan hashtag. Oh god the economy Toy story four is literally the tlj of pixar um I should say tlsj of toy story because pixar could probably I don't even think I've seen all of pixar's films, but uh Yeah, I mean Yeah, I could see how people say it's the tlj of uh, it fucks with the law. Yes It assassinates one or more characters. Yes, and it um shits on What I would say is the point of the first set of films, so I feel like if you realize on bad humor and visuals to You know carry it through if you do if you take those three boxes as far as I'm concerned you've mostly um Become the tlj of the thing that you are Yeah, it's just bad at that point Mullen rags you're both wrong obviously october fest is the best holiday I feel like it's a fair contender, but uh, i'm gonna Use halloween I mean october fest it it's 10 30 in the morning here, so I could start drinking I mean, I don't have to go anywhere probably Very true I could just you know And I just like halloween christmas. Yes, you can Nope, I mean, yes Uh, I'm watching buffy and I just came to the realization that if a vamp would wear a bulletproof vest They're basically be unkillable can't stick through that shit I rags Hello, you can still chop their head off though, and if you push them into the sunlight they go Or drop them into a pit of lava Yeah, actually one of those so this is the thing about mystical creatures and how they die if you were to drop a vampire into lava It would eventually die because of their head being separated from the body That's the reason it would dust At least by buffy rules it wouldn't And that makes you wonder Can you chop off the top portion of its head and everything below the neck? And would it be alive? because the separation of the head from the sub thing This would be they they tried rebate vague because it's just like How exactly does it work? At all vampires also it ends with halloween forever. Absolutely Sure, we gotta have something we gotta we gotta have our christmas preparation holiday We had preparation Let's go spook people and prep for being gold dice. Yeah, we got to get all that out of our system before it's all happiness and cheer and wonderfulness Sitch here are 100 Shickles for giving the best interaction to my super chat FYI the plague in the u.s. And i'm sorry the plague in is in the u.s. And i'm from a town that is very in the past The middle class doesn't exist and there is a national geographical segregation based upon race and religion All right Wow more, you know Uh, would rags poop with the door open if he lived with uwu bulge nuzzle also high rags No, I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't let it no matter who it is I don't want them to see me I was gonna say isn't your position that you be closing that door if you were alone I do yeah when I am alone I do close it even if uwu bulge nuzzle was just casually walking around you'd be like oh anyway Yeah Gosh guys very clear law I'm so so clear I love the podcast also christmas is better. Well. Well. Yeah, it is wellity wellity wellity. Yeah The last of us two can go bin And high rags Hello If you're still in contact with wolf ask him the christmas halloween question I actually did he uh, he said he'd go with halloween, but uh, I don't know if that should be counted or dark Like he's tried to not be involved at all in any of efab of this Uh Hail efab hail gnomes That's fair enough That's uh, that's anomaly ink by the way. I've I've noticed the connection. I believe gnomes is a is a It's a nickname O.T. Is a trilogy is better than prequels I agree with that. Yes Hey ragu chan Uh Hashtag christmas is superior Dun dun dun On behalf of all muslim cats. I declare christmas better than halloween halloween is heresy at least christmas celebrates a great prophet damn I mean, I don't know you can you know the pumpkin man or um Jack skeleton can be prophets of halloween. They're pretty cool The I know that they're not the greatest of people some of them made a lot It was what's some of the Some of the halloween characters. I was about to say like what's the one without lance henrickson the pumpkin pumpkin head. I think it's like a weird demon pumpkin that kills people Uh halloween can be weird, you know, it can be weird, uh, um, I think he was Let's see The dog who saved halloween Oh, was that you? Yeah, that was no that no, no, it wasn't me. It was that was where uh That that was lance henrickson was in that really? Yeah, the dog who saved halloween now 20 Oh Did you say it's like lance henrickson halloween movie Maybe yeah, I I bet pumpkin heads like a series of halloween spooky horror movies for the Who saves halloween that's all it's pretty spooky pumpkin head I think it was like you can summon pumpkin head to kill people for you And then eventually he'll kill you or something. I can't After his son dies in a hidden run accident ed harley lance henrickson seeks revenge against the teenagers responsible With the help of a local witch lauren shape Shoufler Ed summons the vengeful demon pumpkin to hunt and kill the group of friends But when ed discovers a bond between himself and the creature He begins to have second thoughts about employing the vicious monster He fights to end pumpkin heads murderous rampage before it's too late See pumpkins, man, keep them on kane was in uh Dean kane was in The dog who saved halloween. Yeah superman himself, huh? Yeah His corpse just rests in a pumpkin patch. He doesn't have a pumpkin head Through the images because I did see this film. I just forgotten it. It kind of looks like a ripoff of alien Really weird head the 1988 movie. He's uh Yeah, like you you know, it's mean for me to say rip off of alien. I'm not you know Being unfair with that, but you could you could see the that it looks a little like you could sort of see an influence there, right? You know, I'm not crazy A little bit. I mean he looks more like alien than a pumpkin. Yeah Yeah, look at that that shot makes him look like he's kind of alieny Yeah Yeah It's a not a bad monster Yeah, you uh, you know, you give him the old summon kill a few teenagers who are annoying you sort of thing Oh, yes, the headless horse would move you with jolly death. We watched that. It's so funny. We watched that That's something we've watched. It's like, yep become odd crane Uh, even though I like the prequels also high rags Hello, the way that reads it's like they're saying I like the prequels, but I will still say hi rags. It's like, okay All right 60 pages into a massive book. I'm writing an e-fap is the reason I'm confident I have a strong quality standards for evaluating it. Thanks lads Oh my excellent Wish the best of luck to you sir syphilis is better than the sequels um To be honest with you I would watch the sequels instead of gaining syphilis myself. That's my opinion. I'd rather I want to keep talking I'll watch I would if I had to watch the sequels every time I fuck or before Not during certainly and that would be too much, but I think that's a Asking a lot, but I still Yeah, I might I don't know It's a toughie price a poon Hello chat people morla rags e-fap guest and hopefully not jay. Oh Hey Christmas is better suck it halloween halloweeners. Hey Oh Are you saying that I'm an orphan rags? How could you? Oh I don't know man. That's the fate. Yeah Gosh, I'm massive how long before we reach the subjectivity tubes, bro. We inside of an e-fap I don't even know what this is reference So we have halloweeners and christmasives christmoids christmasives. That's probably it. Yeah Christmas is yeah Hi rags, would you please fly to australia so I can sit on your face? Thanks Oh drive a hard bargain. I like I actually am sort of one of these days planning on going to australia to uh Uh, you go visit the green out with top hats One of these days Shout out to mike a classer. Oh A classer damn Class though why what do you do? Well, a lot of people still think it's prequel videos of not only a badly made but that had bad influence on people's ideas about the Um, maybe yeah, maybe that's the thing. I haven't seen it so long We should watch them and then report back to the Yeah, we get star one. I mean it's it's a possibility for any fap free fap coverage, but Who knows there's plenty we have to look at the thing though It's not only something that i'm pretty sure I like and think is relatively good, but it's also like over an hour and a half which Uh, I don't know if you guys noticed but we have trouble covering anything over about 40 minutes It only took us like 10 hours to do Uh new youtube notification arrived, uh, but the stream is not in mass subscriptions Well done youtube but not today um What today is it? You never know with these so I say Christmas is better than halloween because you get candy and presents also. It has a tree checkmate long man Yeah The only the only what what happens with trees and halloween they they have their magic finds and they rape people I was gonna say they often come alive and kill people Yeah Press clap chat because efap kicked jay finally Yay Glyb your drive tributes are amazing. Hey there you go Glyb. This is this is before the debate started. I think Because everything's still really happy. Yeah, everyone's all everyone's all Glimmering happy and hopeful I was court shoplifting while being carried by Dracula dooku and ducula. I was charged on three counts All right You know that's good enough What is everybody's uh objectively poorly written film they love mine is league of extraordinary gentleman though hide was played well though So I always say Batman and robin It's been a long time since I have uh Seen that I remember liking it, but it's been so long And yeah, obviously I think pretty much everybody agrees on the room. It's like Good old the room That woman, of course My brother says tross it cool Now I have proof he's adopted prequels are way better, but I forgive sitch also hi hi Hi, hi. This is hi Hi howl all Hi all I think okay. Yeah. Hello. I think it means please better, but it's supposed to be hi all Yes, hi, uh, I was watching AI as the stream started. Good luck, dude I um or mr cucklin net Cucklin net. Oh plinket, but cuck mr. Plink mr. Cucklitt Cucklitt would be it. Yeah, mr. Cucklitt videos. I have to say very gay man Uh, please don't say the prequels are boring because that's not good enough for an argument The sequels did more to destroy law than the prequels ie space battles and force goes Well, and that's the thing you can just say the sequels are boring anyone can say that that's boring I'm bored In fact, um, there are several films in my lifetime. I've watched with like heavy action stuff and I'm just sitting there like Explosions people running around I think that uh boring can be conflated with Uh, not a lot is happening When you know two characters talking about how they feel about the movie bob challenge can be more interesting than any explosion I agree Um the e-fap mic demon has claimed anomaly as the new victim it would seem Yeah, the mic demon does get around Oh god, the disnoids are back I wouldn't call such a disnoid. Yeah, he's yeah, he's not a fan. He ain't a disnoid. Yeah, he doesn't like the new ones Did they not glib either? Don't worry though. We did we try to make that clear like nobody here likes the sequels guys Uh, this is gonna be good also. Hi literature devil. No it was itch Prequels have better music characters and action um I mean music character and action music. Yes characters. Yes Action from a step like a position of the it makes more sense the action But like the I don't know the quality of the CGI is obviously better in the sequels But I don't know if that counts so much because I was thinking action was the one was sort that was kind of mulling over because music and character is definitely unquestionably but in terms of the action Uh, the question last time was sequels vs. The prequels the prequels are better That doesn't mean they're objectively good or well written. They're full autism I agree. There's lots of tism in the prequels Uh, the prequels are objectively good As you can see the the chat now getting riled up Here it comes the tidal wave arrived Bonjour, you big decked colossi. Would you rather once you've opened a door you can't close it or once you've closed the door you can't open it Open the door. You can't close it. I was gonna say surely you there's several times you could be trapped if you could never open a door You've closed Yeah, I didn't want that So I would like to flip that power the second of being chased by any person trying to kill me I get That'd be great. Yeah, if you're uh, yeah, it's definitely a chaser's market And I love the prequels tisms and all Um english 102 we were studying Othello, which is a very well written kids Uh We were studying Othello, which a very well written kids were laughing the whole movie at the dialogue So yeah, that shakes beer for you. Oh, yeah, that's the one with um, uh Um, I think it was 1995. Let me double check Yeah, with laurence uh fishburn played Othello and um Who played iago I got a double check. I forget who played Yeah, it was kinnith brena He played iago. It was that was great. That was we should watch we might need to watch that for efat movies Oh boy Oh, I loved I loved You want a gun for shake a spear Easy Was the movie. I don't know. I think we'll get some enjoyment out of it. I remember really really liking it. Oh, yeah, I'm a friend funny um I'm very pissed about the last of us two situation and we'll be streaming my playthrough of it So I can rip into it live for everyone to see I'm actually uh Thinking about that myself I might stream the first one close to when the second one comes out just as a fun little gaming thing Then talk about why it's so overrated and then Uh stream the second one when it comes out because I still don't know much at all about it happily Um, they'll see a lot of tweets referencing things that I don't understand But all I know is that everyone fucking hates what they've done Oh boy, so exciting. Oh very interesting another thing ruined. Hooray I would say the prequels writing is a mixed bag great ideas executed horribly with other floors while the eq has patch ups The films should stand alone I agree Yeah film any film should stand alone by its writing I mean it's funny because if you go by the standard that any third party stuff good and Can be considered or can and should Uh, it opens up this it's like you can never really judge anything because Now we have to look at every single piece of third party before considering it, I guess Yeah, and they they could just fix anything whenever without a source material and it'll be a mess They'll just tweet they'll just use star walls. It'll just be a tweet. They'll just tweet about it Uh, can't even argue that sequels are self aware cringe I mean some people could Okay, I don't think they're self aware cringe. No, I don't think they were good. They tried legitimately hard and failed spectacularly Um, also the reason why Anakin doesn't kill pal patine is the same reason why hamlet didn't kill his uncle admiration Well, I just wanted access to the powers, right like palpitas and me them life-saving powers Please I want some clarification Are you guys arguing from a narrative perspective or a dialogue perspective because that framing could change my opinion? Um, I'm assuming they mean the difference between Narratively should they be saying what they're saying or how effective is dialogue in a meta sense I don't know the writing. I think the writing certainly leaves a whole lot to be desired Yeah, a lot of people will um pretty bad will argue that a lot of the language as much as it's Because um, uh, makes sense to come out of anakin and so can you You know, it's it's hard to be definitive about the criticism compared to Like for example, that's not a bad place. There's so many ways you can break that down like I could ray. I don't know. It's just but uh, you know, it doesn't mean that you can't break down how awful the dialogue throughout the prequels are I watch e-fap to unwind, but since I'm stuck in quarantine, why is black ops 2 sell 60 fricked dollars? Pretty sure that's activision. Don't reduce them I'm so sad Uh, if you e-fap movies cats, could you bring fena on for his expertise to point out just how bad it is technically who would love to see him on e-fap again? Yeah, it's a potential Probably a couple people we could bring on I feel like Jay Longburn should come for that Yeah, I feel like her reactions to cats will be funny Uh adam use your ears when watching a movie too adam's not in this one Was it even there? Um, does coherent plot mean good? I feel like the bar has been lowered so much and a lot of people just think making enough sense to recognize it makes good Well, that's an interesting question, right? I think for us we've been able to recognize that sure coherent only gets you to like a 2 out of 10 By itself That's why our bat what we'd say batwoman is a 2 out of 10 It's or like crisis on infinite earth is a 1 out of 10 because it's sort of coherent When you say coherent, do you mean that we can we can see a progression if some kind happening? Like that's what's what we get out with that like it's like yeah, I could I could uh Understand through what what is happening and what is being said some level. Yeah, like time is progressing nearly forwards One scene happens and then another you can sort of tell what's going you can you can tell that events are occurring But um Yeah, you know when we talk about like What is contradicting what is having to be inferred and how much should be inferred versus uh supported You know, uh If I say there's two people fighting over there and then rags invents a whole history For them both and why this incredibly high stakes fight And that's all I ever said and then rags is like that's a good story. You made more. I'd be like, what the fuck Like this uh, so you don't end up like that but simultaneously If I said, you know that fight's happening over there in the background while the big fight is happening here with these two characters That are all about this this this and then rags is like boo bad story I don't know all the people in the background are fighting about Then I'd be like you don't need to you can it can be whatever you want. It doesn't matter The big fight going on. So, you know, it's the interesting discussion about How much needs to be inferred for you to understand everything that's happening in the movie This is you know, this is about rags, you know, this is about don't you That's just about about taxes About about space taxes meant for trade federation about a certain factions motivation right now oh Here we go. I I can't wait. I can't wait for the Is this where we are then where we are? The taxes is not the conflict. It's the sith plot um I would pretty much agree with that. It doesn't matter any specificity on the taxes Simply that there was a dispute in relation to taxes Yeah, I mean I would still say it was it was pretty important to the movie though for sure, uh But what was being taxed and by how much Really necessary would you agree with that? Sure. Yeah, I would agree. Could we get it in the movie without it damaging the movie? Possibly. I don't See why we couldn't Probably only take a couple throwaway lines Yeah, and I don't even want to think about how and where I put it in I'm just saying that we could probably do it Long man bad. Yes, sir. Hi rags Hello, what's your favorite yellow song? Probably I don't know if I have a it might be So Don't bring me down. Maybe uh, mr. Blue sky is one Julie don't live here anymore time There's a bunch. I um It's hard. It's hard to pick a favorite It really is hard to pick a favorite, but there's there's so many good ones that they've done Uh, I don't know if I could pick a favorite though. Um Diary of Horace wimp is up there There's a bunch It's relevant in the uh Palpatine is a central figure there and it was his opening move to get to the chancellor position for the sympathy vote Now the emperor was the good guy if you think of the ds as a nuclear bomb and old iran as Hiroshima The ds what's the ds the ds Let me get a context one more time The emperor was the good guy if you think of the death star for some reason I'm thinking of prequels So the death star as a nuclear bomb and old iran is Hiroshima Um, oh, so you're saying like they were they were blowing up old iran as a sort of like They're trying to force peace in the end of the war Um Is that the unironic argument? Old iran wasn't even was it old around peaceful like blowing them up is retarded if that was your goal It's like, yeah, we're gonna blow you up as an example um, I wouldn't I don't know if I don't know if this is a hot take but whatever. Uh, I think it was wrong for them to blow up old iran Okay, I don't yeah, I I feel it's Uh, this just says wait for it dot dot dot Dean sargon's recent stars videos. I've seen a couple people say that they're frustrated with them. Um And I I haven't watched them myself, but the ratings seem pretty strong Like I don't know. I'm assuming he makes arguments that the Jedi are hypocritical or I we can check them out. Yeah um So I I went through my um went through my phone here to look at some ELO Just to pull up some favorites And I came up with some more telephone line Turn to stone confusion roll over Beethoven calling America four little diamonds here is the news in twilight So those probably round out my list. I guess a favorites, but even then it's not comprehensive. They did so much good stuff Holder on deserved it Oh boy, uh Excited to listen to this later have to work. Hi rags amola. Hello This just says yeah, that video was gay. I'm not sure which one, but I agree Why do you need to know everything in the first two minutes of the movie? Are you kidding me? Oh boy, here we go Movie doesn't need to explain obvious things as well as irrelevant things I mean, I I just thought like I would consider the taxing specifics irrelevant And I would probably honestly find them interesting myself, but I don't think we need it Like if I if I found out that uh, let's just say this is how it worked for a second right in the film They established that Palpatine pushed for um the council and Amidala to uh question or or even deny the trade federation Um the amount of taxes that they're having been putting on Naboo While telling the trade federation to do that And so they get into conflict and uh that's How he's orchestrating this from the get-go. I assume that's how that works and then you could even go further and he's like I think The the trade federation want 50 of all income and transactional Pisms they want that much and then Naboo are like no, we will go no longer no higher than 35 percent But again, I don't think we really needed that Uh guys share this stream. It isn't showing up in the subs or even on all this channel It can only be accessed through links or notifications Well Just whether or not youtube likes us It seems to be that case uh because sometimes it works sometimes Like the last stream Uh seemed to work not only did it work, but it worked for a while judging from the Engagement unless it was because people really wanted to see us respond to that cosmo video They were just like absolutely just spreading it around like wildfire Um EFAP mic demon has targeted rick too. I guess that confirms he hates the prequels It's a live for god's sake calm the hell down Now I know which part of the debate we're at Bruh, Sitch and glib came to fight The moderately great debate also high rags hello Just give Sitch the point about the treaty and the deal and the politics This is one of tpm's biggest glaring weaknesses. He's got you on this point. I disagree. I don't even think it is a glaring weakness At all. I think it's extremely reasonable to infer what it's about and even then you don't need the fine details of it at all It works perfectly fine without it The gay cowboy needs to relax a bit So this turned into a blood sports blood sports debate all of a sudden sips coffee So I agree with Sitch about this you guys should check out blood sports debates If you think that that EFAP got anywhere close to what blood sports is like Yeah, that was nothing That was very much nothing Even Sitch uh because I checked out Sitch streaming after uh some of it He was confused and he was on twitter as well He was just like why are people saying this was like blood sports because he's Around debate and stuff like that for a while. He was just like this was so tame. I was like, yeah, it was but Yeah, if it actually got to blood sports, we would have cut it. Yeah, we would have just told them to Fuck off. No Wouldn't allow would not have allowed it Uh one make deal with city is to blockade naboo three question mark four make lots of money And just daddy. No I'm not sure Daddy, no take naboo hostage false republic to remove taxes. It's two plus two False republic to remove taxes Forced reput, I don't know if it's that easy if you can just force republic to remove taxes I'm not sure about that Naboo was an inside job technically Yeah, because they came from the planet core Well Uh glib just argues for no reason makes no sense The libs losing the audience Uh-oh It'll get better. It'll get better. It'll get better. Yeah Uh, I think I'll skip this e-fap but take my money boys. Why thank you Very kind The prequels are bad and you should feel bad for defending them. Oh my scuba chats are now going to be very like It's like the agg The fury. This is how you become a part of the dark side guys Whatever happens. I hope everyone here can still be friends at the end of this debate but also high rags Hello And uh, I would say if anyone didn't know the the stream ended pretty amicably everybody was uh, pretty happy Thanks, no It's hard to stay angry for that long. Yeah, that's kind of I think what happened it it mellowed out completely in the conversation Evolved as it progressed You need to know exactly why world war one started to care about the characters in 1917 granted I'm comparing a historical film in a sci-fi I was gonna say I feel like there's a lot of variables to go over with something like that Yeah, I I don't need to know if if the story's about characters then I certainly don't even need to know Who I don't you don't even know need to know what war it is and who they're fighting If they kept it ambiguous If they were even british or german or american whatever that wouldn't even matter if they would just It was supposed to just be about people dealing with a scenario Yeah, absolutely. I'd be totally fine with not knowing who they were fighting against or Any of that stuff it could be purely Fantasy and it worked just fine. This is the complication comes in where it's like we're looking at the senate Dealing with different policies being enacted or different events happening It's like oh, so we do need to know what these events are to know If the senate is responding in a way that Either makes sense or at least in a way that we can understand so I can see why The politics are much more important to the prequels than the state of world war one is to 1970 Yeah, and it depends if it's sometimes it's important sometimes it's not um Personal motivations would be more important factors in a lot of aspects probably I'd even say most aspects But for the prequels I think we get especially with the fan of menace at least in that aspect we get we get enough We definitely get enough It's like schindler's list for children Okay I think uh, I don't think knowing what the trade federation once affects the plot Well, I think it's good to know how they were they were involved like it's good to know why they're involved You know if it was just they were manipulated We'd be like no, but it's they were manipulated Because uh, they wouldn't have done this on their own because they cowardly They were given strength and they and they like money like resources Very nice and thin and simple reasonable. Yeah And they could just thrown in a couple throwaway lines just a little this little that it would not have taken them much time at all because lord knows there's a lot of pointless scenes in the van a menace so Yeah, just maybe this helps sort of move it all out But like if it were my story, I would want to add more for all of the characters pretty much I want to I want to stuff that dialogue up with all kinds of little Hells for what everyone's thinking and feeling while also pushing the plot along I sure as hell wouldn't split up certain characters. I'd remove some other ones that I'm much more happier to work within the confines of the story if I had the ability to change characters and The detail work you could still make a good story out of it. Absolutely The trade federation is a mega corp so powerful. They've got a seat in it They get taxed by the senate so they blockade a planet in protest I'll be honest with you. Um, if you've gotten that from somewhere, it wasn't the film I don't know that They're they're so powerful as a mega corporation they get taxed as though They're a planet in the senate Is that what you're saying and that their their protest is in the form of blockading naboo that seems weird I from the tile crawl I assumed that what the film was going for was the naboo and the trade federation as well as a couple of others here and there having dispute over trade and tax. Yeah, I thought it was between them Either way The dispute has caused this Yeah so What's the name of the trade route? What's the name of all their ships? What's the name of their leader's mother? How much information do you want good lord? Newt Gunray. I'm cia. Unfortunately. You don't get to bring friends Uh 10 for more and rag. I'll be skipping the stream but listening to this on monday. Keep up the good work my ewoks By the way rags any insight on laser sights for handguns thinking trigger guard models from crimson trace Uh, let me go get mine to look at the brand that it is one moment Two people with your guns and lasers. What is this star wars? So the one that I have on my glock 17 is a t l r dash six Uh, I think they fit on 19s as well and I really really like it. It looks really good Uh, and it's a laser light combo Uh, you can have them both on or any of them independently And it has held up really really well I would highly recommend it. I can't remember how expensive it was. I don't think it was too bad But I that's what I have. I really like it. I recommend it Uh, so if you wanted to know the one that I'm used that's uh, that's the one right there Oh boy what's uh Luckily nothing like that has ever happened with countries involved in the un our closest parallel to this Yeah, I mean, there's there's lots of uh, this is this is pretty much why we're able to infer What all of this cannon would mean just when we're told like there's a trade dispute or taxing dispute It's like, oh, we know about them. You know what they mean Uh, the clone wars are some of my favorite characters in star wars, especially captain rex So I thank the prequels for giving us the clones Yeah, the prequels get a lot of well-deserved credit for Expanding the universe in a very very big way. They gave us the sandbox they li'l have us nickers Nickers what if it makes you more angry molla has anyone said your avatar looks like doth malgus from the old republic No, but uh I could totally see Someone in some form of a sith thing being similar looking to to the avatar. I've gone. I I could Doth objective this A time sensitive joke that will be read in five hours giving molla an idea of how far he still has to read Also, a question for the guest is gone The question for the guest that is gone. I get it, but uh knows way later than five hours We're looking at what was it's two weeks later It's just for a week and a half. I don't know who we get there eventually Maybe palpatine shouldn't have let vince and jewels run the naboo teak. Then we wouldn't be in this mess So vince and jewels spoken spoken pulp fiction here Run the naboo I'm just gonna nod my head because I don't quite And I'm pointing to myself such things. Hello. Once again mollar and co so Mola, what is your favorite tism and why is it sex tism? um I don't know. I think racism's still my favorite. Yeah, it's up there Also, it's really hard to decide. Yeah, it is hard to decide. There's so many good tisms Also rags now you live in the mass effect universe. Unfortunately, it will be three weeks until the reapers show up What do you do within this time frame? still I guess I probably find some way to Prepare Yeah, I guess if I had time to prepare I would try to find some very uncharted or this is some world in the middle of nowhere Specifically try to make a stealthy camp as possible bring as much supplies as I could Uh, I'm not sure then again the reapers do get defeated. So I suppose it's a matter of with that knowledge I have to choose Like where I want to sort of get stuck in terms of Locally because I think the mass effect relays get blowed up Uh, but uh Yeah, something like that Bitch no outside source then uses outside source So I think this may have been some kind of mistake From people because he used the wrong word, but the cish doesn't even know of the outside sources as far as I'm aware Yeah, and he said He said clone wars to cite something when he meant attack of the clones and if he did use an outside source I I completely missed it myself. But as far as I knew He wasn't used outside sources as like examples Of what they were talking about or referring to But I don't think they either side really used outside sources as like a definitive Right Yeah, from what I remember there was no major breach in that sort of rule Yeah, I don't think it was that bad. I think it was all right No stakes mola. Are these guys raha retards? Oh, I get we twords Well stakes is another complicated thing because a lot of people consider them subjective. I don't really I think that uh What is at stake is something that we can actually define like power levels and uh people's lives and resources at risk of getting destroyed or generated like these things can be Decided on and seen but how invested you are in a scene like a lot of people will label that as it's low stakes if they're not invested I just I want to make sure that uh Deporate them out Yeah Do people not have rights to their own sovereignty? you'd think Hello, I imagine it'd be hard to operate a republic if uh people didn't get that Yeah, that's the um The thing about the blockade that I think we could have definitely used some more flesh is to is like how exactly they can Block communications Block travel and block trade and remain legal. It does seem like Surely they're breaching something Yeah, they assert that it's legal and I'll I accept it for the story But man, that is a huge stretch if you wanted to if you're trying to convince me realistically that Or at least believably that that sort of thing Is legal Um, hello e-fap 62 stopped in to ask rags if you'd ever go back to fall out 76 I've heard it's possibly good now and was wondering if that's true Uh, probably not honestly. There are just other games that I'd rather play and I don't want to jump into new games now I've sort of found a good rotation of games that I really like playing that take up my time and I am doing the work on the video So I don't want to add more stuff to that One of them cycle's going on right now. Huh? Yeah, I do have one of those nice cycles. I know what you mean A lot of my time is it goes sleeping eating stouted stuff or that like editing ball Dreams, you know, yeah Family tisms. Yep, pretty much all time is filled up now um Just started listening a few minutes ago. I take it no one was allowed to reference any external sources outside the movies pretty much no The obvious problems with stuff like that is like Uh, I don't know if you if you like I didn't understand why someone did something and you go Well, if you read this novel it tells you exactly what it is. So shut up. This is like, oh Because uh, you and always manages to deal with every local crisis so fast and efficiently Yeah, I mean the idea that the the senate is tangled up in red tape and bureaucracy. I mean, I can fully believe That that portion is not a problem And I actually do think it's reasonable that they will like send someone to confirm whatever's going on at nabu Like yeah Probably want to do that But obviously then it presents an issue that by the time all that gets sorted out Great federations plan will be And amidal is like, oh, no All no bad Don't try it x k x h f k. I have the fd Dolcra, that's that's the guy who speaks in riddles How about riddles? Why is listening to star wars politics more interesting than studying for my ap government exam anyway guys? I hope I do well and high rags more and any guests that are still here. Stay safe Hi, hi And yeah, fuck with your uh, we ap governance Uh, we're not rooting for anyone. Well, you can but you don't have to it's just a story You don't have to root for the characters to have a good story I think yeah, you could probably have a story where Like two villainous people trying to outcompete each other and you wouldn't necessarily have to root for them You would just be interested in seeing how the conflict sort of plays out I I can agree with that. I'm trying to think of an example of where I didn't root for the characters in a story at all Yeah, give me some give me some potentials here But I'm sure it exists A story where you didn't root for any of the characters Yeah, you were just sort of curious to see how it plays out I'm sure I know they exist. It's just hard to pick them out because they're so unmemorable Uh I that's the thing. I can't even say bat woman because I want Jacob to be all right Oh, someone said the prestige There's an element there. I think you're watching two people spiral and you don't necessarily But I think yeah, yeah, yeah an argument can be made that you want them both to be better people want them both to Work a way that doesn't hurt others. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean, but um People are saying joke you're not like actively rooting for one over the other a lot of times because they're both kind of shit They're both terrible. I think the joker one is Perfectly fair you could have someone saying that I didn't watch the films You know intently because I was uh rooting for joker. I just wanted to see how the story played out Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair Um Blib this is frustrating the hell out of me just because the system is flawed doesn't mean we shouldn't care about the people in it well, that was I'm 100% sure of uh If then we shouldn't care. He might have said that I can't Uh, they did offer to send a team just like iraq. That's why amidala voted no confidence because that would take too long Yeah, I suppose what she wanted was the valorem to try and send out people to help naboo immediately But I mean, but it's totally reasonable that they had to check and see well, yeah Because the trade federation representatives were like, whoa, this is ridiculous nonsense. What the hell You need someone to confirm what she's saying because this lies is bullshit And we wouldn't want it to be that someone in the senate can basically just go my planet is totally under attack Please send people to go help it and then you do. Yeah, it's like, whoa, we need not just be like that. That's weird Simultaneously He uh feels as though Someone stronger. Well, I mean she's being puppeteered by a Palpatine at that point to say that like he's weak. That's why he won't be doing more than what he's doing I still think that whole I I think that whole scene Really kind of needs a rewrite in terms of mentioning things And what you would really say Really defer your motion to allow a commission to engage in Is like let's send a message to naboo sir. We can't communications being blocked. Huh Interesting sending investigations to iraq led to the us lying about wmd's and an illegal invasion and nobody did anything to stop the Us prequels are very realistic by my Um high foc faces uh I think this is the way of getting around the whole block thing c. Ed TV cut T bows Hello rags bows Hello, hello I got into a heated debate with a friend because I said movies can be objectively bad Please help me explain how you can judge movies objectively. Thanks. Also high rags Hello, um, I mean the easiest way would just be Definitely all the statements you make about it have nothing to do with how you feel about it Yeah, you're just tell them you're just going by the references. You're going by the dialogue You're just looking at the scene seeing what the information is Well, I'm just seeing if it Is good or not, but it makes sense. Yeah, and it's consistent with itself And the easiest ones are like unreadable language that is definitively providing information or like things that simultaneously exist and don't exist or just your most Strict contradictions if you provide these to them and their responses that bother me if you're like, yeah, that's not What we're talking about The knife for example the knife is a really easy one to run to Good old disappearing knife. And if anyone says let's just disappear a knife. It's like saves their life You can't really get more significant than the protagonist being saved by the plot Yes, a detail might be tiny, but the repercussions and implications might be Massive Imagine someone should make that somehow who plays out the guy stabs her in the back She goes, blah, do you like it pulls the knife up through a torso? And stabs and stabs and stabs and she just falls over blood everywhere and kylo is like, geez Well, that's it for ray Yeah The chad prequels versus the virgin straw men Chad pre- uh Why did the empire build the death star and why are there the huts if the empire controls everything? They don't control everything Well, I think the person is Trying to say that they could ask questions all the time about everything and and that You can fear a lot about a lot of stuff I would need to look at the dialogue in terms of how they talk about The empire's presence on tattooing and stuff like that That's why you go for information. You don't you don't have to guess You can find info If you see You got him sitch also high rags Hello Why are we even talking about star wars? Nothing is coming out Things coming out, yeah Uh, if the empire controls the whole galaxy, why build the death star? I mean, it's implied that the rebellion only existed after the death star If this is a legitimate question um The idea that they they say like uh It's to basically feel like iron fist style Nobody can it would be like simultaneously holding a gun to every person on planet earth's head and saying um And you're pretty distant and safe You're just like yeah, do everything that I say now or I will kill you and then obviously they blow up all around Which would be most evidence you could possibly have of that being a real thing Like uh, what do you know do what they did and uh might happen to you And they say uh something like the local senators have been dissolved so everything is basically under palpatine Um, can we all agree that mew two has a nice and thick butt? Yeah, I think that's fair. That makes reasonable I definitely don't disagree with that What the hell do you mean sech palpatine is the central conflict they're working to overcome even if he isn't outright He is the phantom menace Why should anyone care about what happens to naboo? Suppose you don't have to care Yeah, you don't have to care That's on you. This is going to be the most controversial e-fap, isn't it? I would say it beats out the spider-man debates Um, yeah What else comes close? I think it's our lowest rated. Yeah, is it lower than the jetty one? I don't know for certain because the jetty one got like downvoted to hell from jetty fans, but uh Still think that would actually might be higher rated than the prequel debate There's a prequel debates at uh at a nice 60 Yeah, I want to say that the genuine is like 65 or something Not so great debate wasn't wasn't even an e-fap, but I think people like the not so great debate Yeah, because he was so one sided and the other guy was so sad He was entertaining in that weird way. Mm-hmm. Well, this is the thing. It seems like lolcows are something of a preference for debates Yeah Do they even say in the movie that the trade federation were pawns of a sith lord? Well, we see it Yeah, they don't have to say it we We can clearly see that unless you're asking do the trade federation tell anybody that they were pawns And I imagine that um We could have had a scene or we couldn't fear that there would be a scene that The alphatism would have been like Fucking don't give me up whatsoever. But then again I don't even know that all without even do right. Yeah, let's say that wouldn't really change much depending on how many people are in it I would imagine that city is or I would imagine that gunray and the people in charge of The trade federation they're okay with what the trade federation is doing on naboo anyway I mean if you take out Darth Sidious, this is still advantageous for the trade federation And if they told them some of the dude told us to do it Like what dude is that guy in a cloak or boogie ghost? Like, uh, I don't know Uh trade federation equals the mandarin from iron man three Uh, how oh because he's a puppet Sitch raised a lot of good points. I'm beginning to understand why even as a kid I couldn't really get into the phantom minutes Yeah, he said he certainly raised he throughout the stream. He had a lot of points some some I considered good some I considered less than good, but uh you know Had some had some good stuff from the defensive side as well and some stuff from me and rags You know, it's it's all over lots of stuff lots of other stuff too Takes evil sith guy wants to take over the republic Reminds me of when America invaded japan during world war two some japanese soldiers threw themselves off of cliffs to avoid capture By the allies that is what my brain cells have been doing this past two and a half hours That's a quote from wolf in the not so great debate I remember that Uh glib was a mistake for this debate Oh Also clip glick glick glib. He's being gay Lip sounds like a man who would like rj's knives out glib, where did the prequels touch you? I think I think he's annoyed people now that would make sense You think that's I think it's starting to get to that Why is the empire evil? Because palpatism wants complete controlism Those are traditional jedi robes. This is painful Oh, uh for the argument for why Will the jedi wear robes? I guess It shouldn't be hard to explain why the prequels are bad what the fuck is happening Well, you know No, it goes It's debates can go any way that they are gonna go and uh It you know, it just depends on who's who's saying what at the time different people argue in different ways Uh I'm going to spend my time doing something better Joy absolute hell for the foreseeable future guys Very well Mola I was at the store and I saw a movie called the man who killed hitler and then bigfoot Can you do an e-fat movies on it also high rags? The man I think I am I think I'm familiar with that Some you two I would have watched either covered it or mentioned Possibility yes Lip and sitch are willfully obtuse worse than major lee and yes Worse than major lee my goodness All right There was a high rags, but Oh, hi Fear of a jedi is very justified I can agree with that. Um talking equals newt gunray Mola Wait, did I say that talking to newt gunray or the same thing? I'm not sure what I bet by that if I did um That is an odd comparison I guess each controls an army Yes, each listens to A sith Yes, each one is evil Yes Um All right, the droids are easily defeated. So there's no conflict the stormtroopers were easily defeated. So there's no conflict doesn't work that way I mean wait both the droids and the stormtroopers are shown to have the capacity to end lives so You know it's I mean, I don't want to hash that out again You already know where that's going. I just uh, I think the last seeds we have of Either faction acting like fucking idiots the better Um trade federation invaded on palp's orders The goal is to create the separatist movements palp's promised power if they invade the danger is it's a giant army I don't know if palpatine really needed to promise him anything Yeah, he He's he's he's a basic move that they're apparently going to absorb naboo into their like ownership through this treaty thing, which is something I have a dish Like that alone is um quite a bit for them to want to You know work with like Honestly, this is kind of part of the problem But if if the logic is you can hijack an entire system by getting the leader of the system to sign a thing I'm surprised more people aren't doing it Yeah, it's really weird And plus even if we look past the fan of menace the trade federation and the separatists Have a legitimate reason on their own to not be a part of the galactic republic and to split away Like they don't really need Sidious To have a motivation or reason to do that He's just helping them along They cut through the droids like butter. These are the guys whose trilogy has the stormtroopers, right? Uh, these are the guys whose trilogy has the Oh, they're saying that um Just because They cut through like butter doesn't mean that they're not threatening because the stormtroopers are disabled quite easily a lot of the time Although the stormtroopers they're disabled I think I know what you mean by that I do I'm following through thumbs up If the lorem had done this officially then the victory would have been tipped off or the viceroy would have been tipped off Sorry trade federation is in the senate The trade federation's in the senate, but he told palpatine he told The count the jedi council is clearly aware because they report back to the two jedi report back to them And they had to get their permission to go queen amadala knows um plus I don't think that the trade federation could stop them from sending jedi to negotiate Also, if if you're saying then That they did this because they didn't want the trade federation to be tipped off implying that they can catch them in the act Then why isn't the jedi's word worth more? Yeah, it's very strange Is the droid army more effective than stormtroopers at this point? um Are we comparing every iteration of the troopers from all the mainline films in mandalorian versus the droids? Because They're pretty much on level I'd say right because the droids Have the benefit of huge numbers Yes, they have huge numbers. They do have You know decent equipment vehicles drydeckas um things of that nature Really, it only seems to be that the the typical battle droid is kind of shitty Yeah, the battle droids seem to be spooky and drydeckas seem to be really good Yeah, um And I mean the stormtroopers aren't bad So I don't know. I mean if I had to fight one over the other I'd rather fight the droids myself The droids seem goofier. So like You have to fight a stormtrooper or a battle droid. I would choose a battle droid Yeah, definitely rather. Yeah But You know one droidek or one stormtrooper. I'll take a stormtrooper The issue is that they seem to play really fast and loose with how competent stormtroopers are Yeah, it's almost like which iteration of stormtrooper am I dealing with Because fucking hell if I'm dealing with a mandalorian one, I could stand in a hallway with him for 10 years And he probably wouldn't hit me Yeah, they'd probably shoot themselves in each other by accident Because the mandalorian just makes them turns them into actual jokes They're worthless And even the first order is they're really shit, too I just want like competent ground forces in these armies Yes, you can have a skilled protagonist in the movie. That's not bad writing the jedi power level makes sense And they also fight more androidekas I'm pretty much in agreement with that. I don't mind a protagonist being very powerful Yeah, I'm totally fine with that One punch man every antagonist is ineffective Uh, pretty much entirely true. Yeah, there's a lot of reasons why One punch man makes something that sounds like it wouldn't work work It worked really hard to do so live and search need to stop interrupting then demanding explanations It was uh, it was free flow and I know a lot of people felt like the interruptions were unfair at some points of it But um, it's such a definitely prefer it. It's such a pov thing though because like If you know again with with two plus two equals four and then you cut me off After before i'm allowed to start my next point to say that two plus two is five If someone's like wow you interrupted moeller and you're fucking wrong It doesn't matter as far as rags needs to Understand the first part is right before he can continue So he needs to interrupt rather yeah, I'd rather points were addressed as they were brought up instead of getting this whole big spiel And then just having someone have to go back to the very beginning of it. Yeah. Yeah uh, and so I just uh It's tough every I know it's tough especially from a listener's perspective because you're just now you're being poopy poops but uh You've got to try and work through it. It's it's the tough part of the debate where you're back and forthing again And again trying to find out what the core problem is and figure that out But uh, it's not like I'm saying there was never interruptions that couldn't be considered bad faith I I couldn't know that for sure You know a lot of people when they speak for even longer than 30 seconds The other members of like the debate if you will start to wonder it's like wait, what even am I going to be responding to at this point? Which parts Uh, and so why we are very against like fucking half hour segments each sort of thing Yeah best to just One thing at a time at that point you just watch the separate videos on the subjects Yeah, like why have them in the same room Do not use george lucas quotes that is outside material use movies only um So that's a fair criticism uh to try and say that the plot makes no sense because the author said so I would actually even though you'd be like surely that's definitive information I'd just be like well if you can prove that it makes sense then all we've now got is that the author's kind of an idiot Yeah, the author can be wrong. Yep I would uh always want to push for that. However, I think it's infinitely fascinating To look at the author's comments on some stuff. For example, jj saying yeah, whoops. I should have had leia hug chewie Whoops, so all the people who are like no it makes sense because chewie needs to go cry on his own. Okay, this is like, uh Even even jj ever said he fucked that up and if someone said well, that's irrelevant. He's just uh He's just the author. I'd be like, okay, sure. That's fine. I just find that it's pretty interesting that uh You wouldn't be convinced by that infamy Good luck making it in universe reason for that. Anyway They try they try. Yeah, they probably do Uh, the trade federation aren't the main antagonists. They are the army the antagonists sent to be honest. Loki isn't the main antagonist and uh either Thanos was in neither Thanos was um, but yeah, no, I would agree with that the The primary antagonist is the spooky ghost The phantom menace Uh in one punch man the antagonist is boredom Do you agree? Yeah, practically you could you could definitely make that The jedi had to flee. How does that make the trade federation ineffective? Good question. Good question. Anomaly, senpai is finally on efap respect to the prequels. Hi rags Hello Like how a small group of teens blow up a death star Teens small group of teens Is this a there's a handful of veterans in there by the looks of them? plenty of adults Yet I can control your mind Don't know what that's in reference to is there an example of a good army out there In star wars or in real life or clones clones are pretty good. Yeah They seem effective anyway, you know, of course a lot of them die, but simultaneously they should we have a lot of shots where um, they kill ratio seems to be 1.0 higher sort of Oh, yeah, well droids on average have like 0.1 or some shit uh They're misappropriating protagonists and giving them alternative antagonists to try and claim that it makes no sense Disappropriating protagonist Uh, are we talking about how in phantom menace a lot of people say there's not a protagonist I don't even I'm not 100% sure of that comment. It's appropriate protagonist and giving them alternate Alternative antagonists to try and claim it makes 100% So most jack-and-chan movies are terribly written because they are comedic elements in the combat Oh, so this is an argument about tone. I suppose Again very hard to argue that you can't be invested in phantom menace because it's uh You know Some of it's goofy or whatever or some of the fights a group All someone has to say is that they didn't find it goofy enough to not be invested Yeah, I can definitely be invested in characters in a comedy. Sure That star one was destroyed by a bunch of pilots Wait, if we're comparing that to the end of phantom menace, um, I really need to Yeah, that's that's bad my dude. That's not no No, literally anakin by accident destroys the shit by accident. He accidentally does it. He doesn't mean to he does it by accident That is totally different than A plan that is made by a bunch of people that is carried out successfully And you know what would have been way better as an easy fix you have like Anakin is like we got to get out of here are two and then he's like scan the area Where's the opening and then he goes beep boop beep boop and anakin is like the core Where's that? You know just some kind of like r2d2 is like by the way, we can destroy the whole ship And i'm not saying this makes it good. I'm saying it's a tweak It means that anakin deliberately destroyed it not accidentally destroyed it It would be so much better. Just just crossing Just crossing that that line from accident to some kind of a plan So it's such a big difference If have 84 they're not so great a debate This is painful as hell the droids pose no threat during the entire trilogy They slaughter jedi by the dozens in episode two. God. What the hell is this? That was brought up as a reference and then they Squared it down to you have to specifically talk about phantom anus Even then the the jedi run away from them and only usually attack them when they're in smaller numbers I always got the impression that that was the whole point of the droids Is that they're not too good individually but in great numbers that they're pretty scary Which is why obi-wan jumping down in front of them in revenge of the sith always strikes me as retarded Yeah, that was dumb He was a bold one. He was a bold one He was a bold one in phantom anus as far as droids are concerned jedi are invulnerable. Sitch are correct What except for droidicas you mean they ran away from the droidicas If you wanted to specifically talk about droid the battle droids that I can mostly agree But even then a lot of the battle droids they killed were all in like a small group and then What i'm suggesting is a scenario for example, this is just off top of my head I don't know if it ever happens in the prequels, but if you had even a hundred jedi against thousands of droids They probably wouldn't win Do you know of any time that may have happened Hundreds of jedi against thousands of battle droids Yeah, did that have a Point prequels Hundreds of jedi no, I don't think hundreds no The equivalent of the droids would be cyber men Cyber bespell s a i b a men Sitch what does star wars have to do with dragon balls e? Oh, so that was like third party, but that was a comparison. Yeah. Yeah as a comparison I'm which one totally fine with Wait infinity war made a good few jokes, but it still contains its tone The clone wars made some jokes but still contains its tone. Yeah, which is why it's a difficult conversation I wouldn't deny that with tone. It's only when you get blatant stuff like massacre then joke and Someone getting their head chopped off. It gets very confusing Especially with the music it's like almost like hearted and then tragedy piano and then fine Man, this is jarring Jar-jarring Would changing mandos complaint to that's not saying much you can turn over a rock and find three x storm troopers X billbear's character intro Oh, so rather than rather than criticizing his aim. You're just saying that they're a dime a dozen Yeah, there's a bunch of them still out there. There's a bunch of x storm troopers I was sure would have liked that better. Yeah, I would find that better than in like lull they can't even shoot I smell a prequel apologist Well, it really depends on Where you stand it looks as if because chat seems like they've got two sides going. I'd say there's like five sides It's like people who don't care people who think it was bad But still think the prequels are bad people who think it was bad and still think the prequels are good and all the rest Um, my favorite shadow people a handsome doggo and a wild glib. Will there ever be a jazza and shad stream? Jazza like j is that what they mean by jab? I feel like jade and shad must have been on this agreement something surely Like that were they on the star wars stream? Whichever one that was that's a good question was j on that one 66 or whatever that was Surely they've met I feel like Yeah, yeah j was on that one. Okay, there you go That was a wild stream That was a wild stream and I was a breaking down There's a lot to break down. It was yeah. Oh, it apparently shads brother jazza. Okay Uh, I mean, yeah, we're not against that probably. I don't know why we Uh, so before anyone say dramatic sad scenes in pt are funny watch efap mini of law the rings A study says if you watch movies with your friends, you don't take them seriously despite how good or bad they are it You don't need to say a study says if you would just be like, yeah when you're with friends You could bought a movie proud while watching it but simultaneously as we've done many times You can watch a movie with friends and also shut the fuck up and watch it and take it very seriously Absolutely Yeah, and you obviously the lord the rings minis We're um, we're us looking to talk and have fun with them in a way that's not usual for lord the ring Usually just watch them There's an action movie trope called inverse ninja law Whereas one ninja is an unstoppable killing machine 12 ninjas are cannon fodder. Do you think this applies to the jedi? No, really? Well, I mean, no, you'd think more jedi would be more deadly They uh, I guess they're referring to the fact that so many of them died in the second film But I just assumed that we were dealing with um You know the complete ill tree of jedi We got the good ones the great ones the okay ones and the shit ones and a lot of the shit and okay ones died Plus they were surrounded all over so Yeah, while you got people like obi-wan and quaggon in whole ways fighting individual droids like yeah I can believe that pretty much all jedi would have Um They say in a new hope that they let our heroes escape Yeah, that's uh something that a lot of people Forget about a new hope. They're like the fucking stormtroopers stuck in that movie Wouldn't they be more tension if the droids were more dangerous is the same logic jj used when he made those death star destroyers Yeah, I would I would argue that it's a little bit more complicated than that, right? It's just like yeah, I think so, too The the death star thing was I think it's just for plot Whereas it's it's one of those if you're facing down the enemy constantly over and over than the things you do in the title I guess one strategy one's tactics But I will say it does bug the shit out of me That you know troops just tend to be idiots in star wars now It really really does bug me. I hate it so much The stormtroopers were ordered not to kill them talking let the heroes get away The stormtroopers are mocked because people don't understand the movie In my experience people usually reference return of the jedi as much as I do understand people can make that mistake with a new hope Usually talk about the fact that they were defeated by teddy bears a lot of people go with that And they miss quite a bit an empire in bespin when they're chasing Leia and Chewie and Bando The stormtroopers like pew miss miss pew pew I don't actually think they land a single shot On anyone even though in return of the jedi they do land a shot on r2d2 and Leia Leia. Yeah Enough monkeys and enough typewriters, you know Stitch and glib are terrible at this replace them Oh There are two stories going on in phantom menace trade federation are antagonists to padme amidala and nabu dath mall is the antagonist of jedi I mean a lot of people would argue that There's not even multiple teams. It's just all mostly Fighting to prevent this whole thing that's happening and this whole thing that's happening is orchestrated by palpatism After you watch empire then jack off to gay porn, but your mom your mom inter in enters the room The feeling you get is the same gunray had when he knew kwaigon is jedi I will take your word for that Stitch and glib are reminding me of the guy from the not so great debate Shad says uh return of the sith duel is best in cinema psych Well Can we have a debate if efap 84 is the worst fap? I mean, I'm happy for it to be conceded. I don't really Yeah, I'm I'm fine with uh I'm fine with that being the case Batman beat up joker the dark knight. Does that mean he sucked? Oh, you're saying That uh, batman is far superior in terms of physical power compared to the joker. So Yeah, well, this is what I meant about more than just that what creates stakes tension and Besides, I don't even I don't even agree like it. You know, you got two jedi are in a whole way and three doridicas turn up It's like, oh shit. They're in trouble Well, would you mind Doing this again with the same two guys and I will take them to school myself Because there's a lot of info getting lost in translation here As for the future of potential prequel debates Rags and I shall have to do our homework in terms of what we should do next to what we should try dex who knows um Enchement aren't as effective as the protagonist all movies ever are now terrible Oh, I mean, it's pretty common for foot soldiers to be defeated by our Euro characters, especially if they have powers Or, you know, really good equipment The destroyer droids could be very expensive agreed Yeah, of course. There are two things. I totally yeah. Yeah, absolutely There are two things that must be done one kill the super chat overflow to watch hardcore henry dumbo's. Oh my There it is You compared the throttle More You compared the battle droids to napper. I would compare them to cyber man Uh, to compare to specialty group to a base troop is disingenuous at best Yeah, I think that's about the tbz stuff. I'm guessing because I have no clue Lib makes me want to listen to major lee. Oh my good. Oh my goodness. Lib. How could you? Uh, what about how they need to destroy the command ship to destroy the droids because they overpower the gun guns They did beat the gun guns For whatever that's worth. Yeah, I think that was brought up. I and they were not impressive that they beat the gun I think that's I agree with star warskill. My soul is dying I think this is before I don't know if this is before or after she's jumped in but we can we we're sort of seeing a timeline I can kind of see it Muller maybe it depends on how many are fighting a jedi psa, but they're not threatening numbers are though just saying Never is our threatening. That's how it works Absolutely One child with a knife ain't gonna do much probably but a hundred children with knives coming at me I'm fucking running away Get away from your children I feel like this could be the beam picture that log bad running away from children with knives The trade federations are patsies. Why would palpatine be honest with them? Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't expect he tells them anything that doesn't get him exactly what he wants I mean he kills them all in the end Yeah, he's kind of a dick to him in a way in a way You feel sorry for him What city has promised us is we only want more Uh trade federation taking over naboo legal or not 100 helps palpatine Yeah Absolutely They could assemble various planetary militias or defense forces for a liberation fleet to naboo Absolutely my expectation There probably wouldn't even be a battle they would just show up and the trade federations would be like this obviously isn't worth it I wouldn't the testimony of two jedi account as evidence. That's something that I find weird about at all I don't know how much they would think that they would they would certainly have a lot more weight to it than it does If the senate would be like nah liars Um, I'm trying to think of what would like what would happen I Don't believe these jedi they have Reason, I mean, I think we should just go on that scene that scene would have been super useful Would have been nice They hated glib because he told the truth Comcast internet is down we better nuke russia internet is down and russia invade them That's not good My lord moorla I believe you have a mutiny on your hands also high rags Hello Get anna on here Number one. We want anna pick the disnoids bring anna hashtag. We want anna All right, you know disnoids in that stream. I wouldn't yeah Yeah, I don't know who the disnoids are supposed to be Envoy will be paid off everything will be covered up Now don't worry about the bitch babies in chat moorla They don't know that debates don't have to be civil cack panel. Please sing hose mad. Thanks I mean, they don't have to be civil. It's just preferable I think it's always prefer Um, but the idea that it can get emotional and stuff. I did preface that at the beginning I was like it's probably gonna happen and it's okay that it happens. We couldn't like the second anyone's voice raises a guy down but um I don't mean to undersell how uh angry certain portions where or anything just saying it's all right It's okay. We'll survive. We'll move on It was okay Any speculation of what if shouldn't be allowed as it doesn't happen in the movie just like eu books, etc It's safe to assume other plans would have probably had other counter plans to cancel out Uh, I guess it can actually would matter what one we're talking about specifically So we just the whole film is palpatine getting to the chancellor role That's pretty much the point of phantom min as well as obviously finding out Um bad writing equals contradiction. None were brought up yet Oh, I think that um, I feel like we we were we highlighted it. Well sitch highlighted a couple of uh, certain contrivances Obviously we had the uh, the will of the force conversation as a result of that. Um You know, uh, the ship was destroyed the queen and the trade federation new ambassadors were coming and palpatine and The queen discuss it openly on their hollow call The only secret seems to be that they're jedi Yeah, that seems yeah yes And the people who took them there weren't jedi They were it's where it was a republic cruiser Does that mean then that the senate were aware that Ambassadors were being sent to settle a tax dispute. They just didn't know that jedi was sent Sometimes it's hard to to iron it out fully Yeah, absolutely Phantom man, it seems like a masterpiece after this. Oh my Even if you have testimony you still need evidence Um Yeah, it's just a matter of you'd think the senate would take it a lot more seriously if two jedi knights or The jedi master and a paddle one were like, hey, the shit's going on. They actually try to kill us pretty fucked up Oh my goodness, and I suppose by the way the trade federation they tried to yeah That's the thing that that that whole segment of the movie where they go back to the senate and report all their findings like man And you think they would be in more constant communication with the senate once they get to like nab or tatooine and stuff Yeah, you could have had the jedi were on the panel the naboo panel Exactly and they're like An attempt was made on our lives The invasion has begun. This planet is suffering. We must act and then the trade federation people are like Why would we attack jedi? Why? Why would we try to take a planet or something like that? It's like, this is incredible What the fuck Instead it just isn't even mentioned and I feel like it would have been I feel like it should Yeah, I think I think it could actually Be a cool scene You could have a lot of lot of tisms going back and forth We could even throw in a line maybe in the senate about how they're not entirely trustworthy of the jedi. They're like you guys always Pretend like you can just solve the problem Who knows why they tried to kill you or some shit like that if that's even true And to explore a lot to do imagine imagine the trade federation managed to get a Some kind of recording With quigon like burning down their doors with his lightsaber. They're like this was happening Uh, because they were like it seemed like they were trying to kill us. These jedi was like to kill us. What was that with that? The the jedi were like, ah, they tried to kill us first and like no, there's no proof Hey, you know, you could do you could do stuff like that Chancellor valorem sent you to kill us Uh, sitch and glib two for two winning They hated glib because he told the truth again, huh? glib has been shouting since the title crawl, but it's the chat that needs to chill, huh? Sure Chat doesn't need to fucking chill. Yeah, I was gonna say everyone could chill. It's fine, but uh I feel like chat doesn't get rowdy Just see how fast chat was traveling in that debate. It was just like All the cameras were under maintenance. Uh Can we all agree that general grievous was badass in the 2003 clone wars micro series He fought seven jedi and one killing four of them Yeah, dude. He was badass sounds pretty badass. Sure The cameras were clearly collecting boulders Damn The poison gas is much more excusable than any james bondville and doing the same thing ever the nemodians are amateur bad guys at best Yeah, I'm not I don't think it's ridiculous that they can pump gas into a particular room. It's probably something Yeah, it's weird, but like I guess they design their ships like that in case They really really want to kill negotiators or something Maybe someone comes aboard who's like i'm kill you and then they lock them in the in the murder rooms Shouting is not raising your voice speaking firmly you simpering poll trune poll trude, I don't know Uh shields block force powers smiley face Is that true? I don't know. See because if the if the force is a matter of moving the things Around as opposed to You know, like think of darth vader going to choke someone I don't picture it as he sends forward a An invisible hand that finally grabs onto something and then chokes it and thus a shield would stop it I see it as He forms around the neck a pressure of the force that closes in on someone So a shield wouldn't matter Just closes their windpipe just a little press I don't see why you really need and so I guess that's about the idea of couldn't they just force push The droidekas or lift them and stuff's like Honestly, I don't know. I don't know why not Yeah, I do not know and if we're told that it just means shields don't work a shield prevent the force. I'd be like damn Them uh them gungans They should use the get over with those shields Lib pointing out flaws in p.m. Means he's a disnoi I think that I'm sure of it. I hope sir sir slash him an arsenal Uh, what's with all the irrational people prequel love in the chat? Where have you been? Prequel love in the chat is not uncommon The prequels are answered from the multimedia project The filled in the gaps at the same time they were running before clone wars retcon them How do you normally great to finally see you on high ragu the star wars prequels are objectively better written than the sequels Toss my Caesar salad stitch I agree they're better written They meet that high high standard Yeah, I can't use force powers against droid because they then use force powers to super run away from them. Yes, this is perfectly fine I still think the super run is silly But uh, I could super run was Why is this we could probably get over it if there was if we had no other situations where it would have been useful But I feel like the that's a constant thing that you know hangs over you whenever you're writing Jedi Yeah, and they do they do basically they do so little with it. It's only used for just a second But it creates so many problems. That's the thing. It's not about the amount of time it's done or how tiny the detail is It's the implications How bad is the last of us since it explains? Oh wait, sorry How bad is the lord of the rings since it explains so little Does it explain so little It explains enough. I would be curious what part you believe is Yeah, give us uh, you have to give us an example here Hi, Mola. Hi rags. Hello. Hello. Y'all looking fabulous today. That's all good day future me and chat Yes, have a good Um can't any movie fail by the but why not this argument? It depends if we can point out how someone would have to be acting Or stupid Like it probably is valid But if you say for example, you had a very stupid character and you're like, why didn't they do this? Like homo simpsons like wouldn't be a fair argument to say like homo should be smart enough to do the smartest thing But when you have like general hux Brad Mulholdo doing incredibly stupid things makes you wonder Um, Obi-Wan says master destroyers and Qui-Gon stops cutting the blast or glib That is Joker doesn't explain his meds or his condition Lord the rings doesn't explain what the ring does or how magic works Does it not explain what the ring does? I feel like we do get lines about like its influence and its desire to return to sauron Yeah into it. He poured all of his cruelty in his malice and his will to dominate all life and They're hunting the ring down and they can clearly sense it and they establish that The ring race that is These all are nitpicks. When did chat become a bunch of tlj defenders? Next you're going to be telling me homecoming was bad because they changed mj or the atla doesn't have any major flaws. Oh wait Now that's a spicy super chat, right? Oh boy Should have added that space balls is boring and time before christmas is How much is too little or too much information? That is to be debated a lot of times. It's very hard to give a definitive Um answer on that one the usual answer is just enough to understand the events as they proceed Yeah, it'll change from person to person I don't think there's a Truly objective amount on that. I'm not sure But I think it's easy enough in a lot of instances to tell like we need more information here Or we don't need it here or we have too much in this other place Or because they give us so much information that has basically no use The result is we don't have a lot of very basic stuff because there's no screen time left Uh chat is being fucking stupid. I like the prequels, but I actually think the two arguing in favor of them are doing a poor job Bum bum bum. This is what I mean chat and um and Super chats all very split lots of lots of feelings Going on all over the place Daddy glib and sitch take my money From us simp from your simp All chats are paid for with my mom's credit card Oh tell her thank you Imagine if the drawdick has seen was 45 minutes long with them trying everything they could think of like it just keeps going Why so that We know for sure that what they So that we know for sure an excruciating detail that they can't fight them head on uh head on I don't know what to say head on head, but I'm Force powers are inconsistent. Imagine my shock I mean we want to try and avoid it, right? Yeah, we do want to avoid that absolutely smaller So it turns out What I'm trying to get context for that what someone says Would people be mad if they drew porn of Jenny Nicholson and a bunch of people are saying do it Apparently this isn't something to do with one of my tweets and Osminol is like you're shamed this is a fan base Someone's asking We ever say we should draw you should draw porn of Jenny Nicholson I don't know this is like what the what the hell does this have to do with anything we've said, uh assuming this is The only reason I've been alerted to it is because people in the replies are like Uh Ox is too nice to flame them Um, I have no qualms about it But this is Mola's reply is shame because I actually enjoy some of his criticism. What the hell does this have to do with me? What did we do Someone wants to draw a porn of Jenny Nicholson. She's like, okay. Okay. Just Take the compliment. I guess I don't know What I don't I'm so confused Okay, I guess Whatever Yeah, I don't even know if there's anything to respond to they were just like, uh I don't think we ever made a position clear if we were pro or anti jeb jeb Nichols porn I mean, I don't think we've had a position on drawing porn of anybody. We've covered really Yeah, I just want to really think about it Come on movie bob Oh, yeah, of course from that obviously if you want to go without saying Go ahead and jump on that I mean, I don't care. I don't I just don't care Because it's just funny though, it's gonna be like I'd be ashamed of my audience if this is going on I'd be like, well, I am ashamed of several people in several audiences Like dab you humanity you suck But yeah, I was gonna say I wouldn't say that this is something that comes from it, but I don't even know if it is I don't know. He's he's blocked out all of the information that I could find out who's is which is, you know Get on him, I guess Yeah, but um, all right Seriously though, uh, don't draw porn of movie bob Don't do I'd be curious what he has to say about it though I'm sure he'd be feeling Love it He's like no one's ever drawn porn of me before normally. It's the opposite normally people recoil at the thought Implying hunter x hunter is good kek. Well, I haven't seen it. So I don't know anything about it Weebs rule this chat now. Welcome to hell rags No I don't accept it The van the weebs make them go away Return them to their dirty dark holes Oh, uh, someone's found it. It's Sweet where I've uh, so Gary Nicholson said people a lot of angry video assayers don't even know what macguffin means And I quote twitter and said yeah, they don't even get it right. It's macguffin Um, I thought that was just a bit of fun And you know someone responded to that saying would people get mad if I drew any nickels and porn which I don't know what the hell I have to do with my tweet What like, okay I don't know. I guess they would they probably would It's just funny to me because like The association is like, well, this is happening in your audience. I'm like, well, yeah, I'm not I don't explicitly regularly bad people for talking about what porn they'd like to draw I don't know. That's just thought never been something that I've been Yeah, that'd normally come up in casual conversation But yeah, um Naughty naughty audience saying things that can get snipped out and then attached to me That's that's how that works Well, obviously, this is your fault for doing whatever it is that you did Well, of course if I hadn't replied to her no one would have suggested to draw porn of her That's obviously this is your fault for saying McMuffin. That's the code word. That's the m word the dog whistle Yeah Well, why don't they just force push all droids easy because using the force leaves you open to blaster fire stands shows hand first not lightsaber I mean, I don't think there's anything about that technique though that says you can't push with your lightsaber hand Or you can't push with a hand while keeping your lightsaber up. Yeah, sure and and couldn't Couldn't quite go on stop lasers in midair like like Kylo or is that Was Kylo so incredibly strong? Yeah, or whatever Um, I used to like cinema wins Oh I wouldn't get out of nowhere But pro prequel guys aren't arguing like that You're criticizing the fight choreography. You saw the fights in the ot right emotional impact aside. They were terrible I mean some of them were pretty awkward Yeah, but we're not going to be inconsistent on this Mm-hmm. Um, I guess that according to sitch the ot is trash now Oh because of the choreography thing Uh, Star Wars with game mechanics. We is a kai trash now God That sounds like one of them. They're weebie words to me That's and my response to rags at letek was somewhat justified because he had terrible references the anti-prequels of making decent Oh, yeah, all those references I used for my off-ten comments. Yeah, sure Okay in the debate that we never had a chat is somehow acting worse the The uh, well, it's just people will rapidly defend a thing that they think is being besmirched regardless Uh, I think I think that there's clear lines that can be crossed It's just like chill. Fuck out Yeah, chill the fuck out. Not that this doesn't apply to the people in the conversation too. Just saying Mm-hmm. Uh, sitch your anime point was awful. Maul stops to tell jakeba And no joe how his four stand abilities work mid fight. That's how those animes achieve I don't know anything about anything about any of that I have no idea what's going on there glibs bringing the fire go sitch go glib How cute glib thinks he's being rational glib stop being passive aggressive for five seconds Been chat stop being actually aggressive for five seconds uh This is going great Hooray Why didn't they leave jar jar with the gungans? Why didn't they like at the beginning? I mean because they needed they said they needed a navigator to go through the planet core Yeah, and it looked as if by gone was like I can save a life too. Why not? Yeah, he owes me a life debt And then he force convinces boss nas to let jar jar go with him The base suggestion the base chad rick versus the disney the virgin disnoid glib Live does not like glib is not to stop using that word We are not nobody in that was a disnoid We all hated the sequels. I had to say multiple times during that that we hate the sequels Like all of us do Subtextual philosophical metatextual Mothemes The juxtaposition of the plot truly metatextual I'm not even 100% sure of who said what of what those responses are now We're we're fully into it now all these could be about anything boy The concept of powers that are established to require focus not being used constantly while defending one's Self-form suppressing fire or another Jedi is not comparable to never deciding to weaponize technology Hmm. Yeah, not 100% sure of who that's responding to Kids love jar jar. This is a valid argument. Yes Okay, if someone was to say people hate jar jar or that kids love jar jar are both irrelevant really Yeah, first off kids aren't people. Yeah, second off. I don't care what kids like Kids like all kinds of stupid shit Jar Jar was insufferable. He was extremely annoying Someone's actually got it. So someone said this has nothing to do with Mola about that tweet and the responses there. It is replies laugh my ass off Okay Talking about the muffins the hell All I have to do is is send a bunch of people to I'm not gonna I'm gonna say it because like god, it'll come out really badly It's the same point as the Patrick Williams thing All you have to do is just get someone to post a thing in someone's reply Then oh look, you're now as bad as that person that you were just condemning The association thing is insane. You gotta chill on that. Uh, yeah Believe me. You shall be hoisted by your own petard You're one of them. They're petards The reason jar jar and the comedic stuff is in the movie is because it's needed Even berserk one of the darkest stories around had comedic and light moments to lift the mood It's not needed never referred to it as needed I definitely not yeah would not say that it is needed Do not you dare attempt to convince me of that Um, I thought Qui-Gon was supposed to be an unconventional Jedi which contrasted with obi one being more traditional minded Yeah, I think that was pretty obvious. I'd say us Yeah, that's kind of the yeah, that's pretty clear. I definitely agree with that Obi-Wan certainly was much more. I guess yeah traditional is a good way to say it level-headed stoic In a way He's not irrational Why is c3po in any scene that's not talking to the e-woks in the entire series? Why was he even on that mission? the e-woks so I've never minded c3po coming on any missions because an interpreter could be useful at any point really especially if you're dealing with aliens Absolutely And the idea that it's like well, what if he gets in the way? I'd be like, I don't think he will He's just he's sort of there. He should be fired And even if he does He's like you can turn him off Yeah, which they do that's pretty funny. He gets ripped to pieces and one of the movies He's put it back together his head on backwards and everything. Uh, why did they just force a run into the city? Because that would be tiring Force run into the city across the desert Like bullets just kicking up a trailer dust wherever they go Okay, let me clear it up prequels are bad There are many silly bad moments and characters in the prequels But they tell a full story that has a clear progression the sequel story have so many holes in it. It gave me tryphobia Yeah, there's a lot of holes Huge coincidence that r2 and 3po find obi one after landing in the middle of tatooine and not being shot down Is that also convenient bad writing too? Yes I think it's extremely coincidental that that happens and if someone told me it was the will of the force I'd be like, oh Once again, huh The best you can argue is that they were their um escape pod was set to land in the general area that they knew that obi one lived And uh, it's just lucky that they are sold to people who have a direct connection with obi one That's pretty fucking coincidental Very uh, yeah Just if if owen Lars didn't need any droids that day what would have happened? Having Having come into this two hours late. I realize why the romans set up their trial system the way they did And why the anglosaxons determined a jury was the best means to settle a legal argument Trial by combat was clearly the best way all the prequels well written trial by combat Trial by combat. I'm glad the movies explained the will of the force And I don't even want to go into the will of the force It's a rabbit hole Genuine question. Why do you guys still have the debates? They all end up being so tis me my teeth rot So the whole point is to have two people of opposing views discuss the topic Or more, you know more than two but uh, yeah I mean a lot of people request a bit this one was heavily requested Um a well written chosen one narrative should never rely on plot contrivance events within the universe should still make sense I agree pretty much. Yeah. I'm pretty much on that The sith are the imbalance because they seek absolute power over the force I'm tapping out sitch killed me before movie bob Hmm If the jedi thought the sith were all dead in the prequels then why do they need a prophecy that says a chosen one Will kill all the sith Is it true the sith have returned could there not be an imbalance in the force through things other than sith though Because the sith are not the only dark side you I assume I mean I don't know. It's a it's implied that there's only two So I don't I don't know it's it's strange Well, I mean it's I guess it's not strange. It's just sort of implied that there's the light side and the dark side and Quinn is like quite Quinn quaggan jinn is like this odd man out But the dynamics of sith and jedi are never really explored in any meaningful detail Yeah, we have to go off a lot of implication Um Mola, what is your favorite ahoy series mine is iconic arms. I love iconic art Well, I love everything he does but uh my favorite video Is the quake review and if you consider the series free goes from Wolfenstein to quake the Wolfenstein to doom to quake the half-life. I like that set of four videos about how Mainly influential all four of those were This is a cake and this is a annoyed face If the force wills it that the sequels are justified Uh any contrivance in these sequels are justified by that logic Uh strict light and dark sides are the perversion a balance is force sensitive people not practicing either or kick glib also high rags Hello Can't catch this one live, but I finally super chat and there's so much to say so I'll just say this they turn john karner into a terminator Yep Yes, jenesis really just doesn't like john karner That that happened Like themes chosen one stories and prophecies should never be a crutch. They are supported by the execution not the other way around pretty much The idea of going like it's okay though because it fits a theme or it's okay though because I mean I say that as if tlj does that tlj says it fits a theme and it doesn't even because um You could have like a particular event take place and it's like this is really good for character or for plot or for We'll build or for theme. Um, but it could also be bad for any of those four and I think arguments can be made about that But It literally fails at all four. There's a contradiction. It's just like you just fucked up This e-fap is the last of us part two of dark souls games That seems fair isn't this that this is the gadelb of e-fap Oh my goodness gracious Say it ain't so We are brave means bring jar jar We are brave I think doesn't who says that it's uh had me right Because we are brave Uh, I mean jar jar says like we said brave warriors That sort of thing. Oh, I I meant in the in the council in the chambers or whatever when talking about what the plan is Because we are brave your hand Think sitch was sitch was bringing it up as a like a weird piece of dialogue I love how I get called into work to go cut down a dead tree and you masses are only 30 minutes further than into the movies Love you long man. Invite jay and then kick him and high rags Hello Yes, he was pre-kicked. Um, I'm high playing episode one racer and it's insane Good, I hope it's fun. Good luck. Enjoy it, man Didn't they do the same thing with getting to best in an episode five when the falcons hyperdrive was down? Oh, I can't remember if they say like we don't have enough fuel to go anywhere But you know closer systems they might have done If slash when a new efap gaming comes out might I suggest death road to canada rags has some experience with it If I remember right and it could be a co-op with a parsec or some other online service Uh, yeah, I do have some experience with death road to canada. It's fun game and um, yeah Absolutely would not mind at all playing that sometime Have you seen the trailer for abigale? It looks bad batwoman back Abigale no, I I don't know about that Young girl lives in a city whose borders have been closed for many years due to disease epidemic while searching for her father She lived she has magical powers Wow, that sounds wonderful I hope that she wins the battle in her whatever thing Darring There's a guy called Gleb Gleb Yeah, I mean Hopefully it's good Hey mola, what's your credit card information? I need it for a meme We gotta do it to save ninja on the battle bus. He needs our credit card information to save the day How long would it take to sell the ship? Not like there's a car max out there Uh, they're in a hurry and maybe couldn't wait for days slash weeks to get a buyer I you don't need you just need enough She get a new ship later. They don't have to get the best deal And I think that whether or not we can generate reasons for it to not be a possibility. They should be in there Like if you know you have them discuss this it's like Sir couldn't we sell the ship to get one that's you know, blah blah and then Qui-Gon's like No, it would take too long need to get out of here within the next few days because the trade federation are going to catch up that sort of thing But even then I'd be like how are we to take too long? Things especially in a place like Tatooine Boy, they'd be like cash in hand. Let's go Hi, what if Anakin hyperspace ram the blockade? Well Perhaps it would be destroyed I'll try hyperspace ramming. That's a neat trick It would have worked you wouldn't have survived though and that'll make the whole prophecy thing awkward Didn't Qui-Gon barter for the quote the boy the boy and his mother and then Watto through a dice roll forces Qui-Gon to choose either Anakin or Shami Well, there's no choice there. He basically just says Who the boy read the mother Yeah, the problem with the dice roll is that Watto knows he's a Jedi and yet he rolls dice Oh, yeah, sorry. I'm wrong technically Qui-Gon does choose because he Yeah, use force influences. Yeah Who's better one for Watto to foray Watto what is like a character? Yeah I wanted to ask if you've seen pro mere. It's an anime movie with great fights voice work and animation Only problem is the plot is abysmal. I would love to see you guys hear me Oh But it's called pro mere and I sound almost sounds like a editing software pro pro premiere Uh Yeah, I would love to see you guys tear it up. Also high rags pets Hello Exchanging currency would probably get the attention of the huts and no guarantee Anakin wouldn't die in another pod race in the week He was gone Exchanging currency would probably get the attention of the huts. Why why would they care? Why would the huts care? Just everything's running as normal. Surely this exchange is constantly I refuse to believe that there's no exchange for credits on this place The huts would probably see it as a huge advantage if they had the queen of a planet owing them favors If you had like a character who moves around the galaxy Am I regularly someone like Mando for example? Um, oh whoever else just someone who operates in a completely legal way And they visit Mos Eisley and they know that people come to Mos Eisley And they can't do anything with credits there because they're completely useless. Wouldn't you be like? Ooh, if I offer a really harsh exchange rate, I could probably make quite a profit here Like this is why I don't really believe that Like surely somebody would want to set that up be like, yeah, I'll trade for credits Sure, and then I can trade the credits back to people who need credits because they're heading to the republic Absolutely That's how we do it in real life People trade buddy Again really really weird That they apparently don't have for public credit. It's it's it's it's it's supratism Fuck mary kill rich evans the dawn and tonald prequel suck um mary the dawn Probably fuck tonald and kill rich evans Maybe mary rich evans that could be funny Yeah, it would be funny There's a dichotomy between the belief in the jedi way and a spiritual belief in the force Hence Qui-gon isn't on the jedi council. He goes with the flow of the force Yeah, I can believe that he's more interested in running how he thinks Run with the with the light side of the force I agree. Yes Well slap me with a jab and call me count dooku because I've been looking forward to this Don't equate american slavery as all slavery Oh, that's the point of the conversation we're in. Are they talking about The slave portion whether or not it's believable. I guess uh I think Anomaly Inc actually said he agreed that he wanted more of strife in anakin's day today Yes, more evidence that it was a harsh slavery life Yeah, he agreed interesting But yeah, I know a lot of people felt differently on that one Oh Hulk was a slave in Thor Ragnarok. Not all slaves are mistreated He was absolutely mistreated Until he wasn't Yeah, the uh, the thing with Hulk though is that he was happy with it Like I'm a fighter that gets glory and prestige and I also get a nice rube Um, I agree that there are many different types of slavery. The one that on Tatooine it was very much hard to distinguish the difference between that and uh Something that might not even be considered slavery in certain parts of the order operation So I'm not even sure how I feel on it entirely yet The ifdom I'll have you know my serfs returned home because of the quarantine. You're all the virus. The earth is healing Gnomes and mollus streaming together an efap dream the only two youtubers. I'm members of rhino milk for all. Hi chat Hey, go chat. So I'll let it load to you Now being a slave isn't the part that breaks you understanding what it means to be a slave and what you do Sorry, and what you lost do similar with other traumatizing situations Anna kin the chosen one prophecy speaks of her of Bring balance to the debate. Oh, I get it Anna kin While Anna is the bear is a welcome addition rags is still the best woman Well, yeah, you know, you had far from me to charilishly refuse such a You know such a such a kind uh compliment I'd be a better actress than Schmey And is the big gay through Well, you should check out prepare to die prepare to try and rkg youtube channels three lads playing souls games among other things for the first Time the welshman is hilarious and reminds me of you Wow, that's racist all all welshman. That is kind of fucked up. Wow. Wow Unpopular opinion spinning was a pretty good trick No, I agree and it isn't pretty trick. Yeah, good trick. That's like the default go-to neat trick is spinning The word is out. You're doing wrong. I'm gonna lock you up. You're lion eyes gonna tell you right So listen up. Don't make a fight. Your talk is cheap. You're not a man. You're throwing stones I don't even know what the references. I don't know what that is either What is stone rhyme with? Oh but What what was what what did stones rhyme with? You got fight cheap man stones Oh Yeah, I don't know if it was but bad to write Let's do one of those free verse poetry as Everyone everyone here needs to watch youtube poop the rise of ray palpatine by droop elmo It has some of the funniest edits. I've seen a silver lining of A lot of funny stuff has come out of tross. It is a dumb one Oh, yeah, it's just it's it's funny, babe Um, but they say the sky's the limit and to me that's really true But my friend you have seen nothing just wait till I get through because I'm bad. I'm bad Now I know what it I see You don't definitely need your protagonist to be overwhelmed by your antagonist at the beginning of the film You can show your pros at the height of their ability have them fall later, which is what the prequels do Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with that actually. Yeah That I asked you did I ask superior to less than one percent of the droids Is that what the battle droids occupy? I got Unless you mean they're only superior to small amounts of them Yeah, but I thought that was yeah, I mean that's pretty yeah I agree. I I doubt that people would disagree with that But again Maul is close to sabre tooth from the first ax man fighting jedi versus fighting logan Get padme versus capture rogue, etc. Etc. You don't need dialogue to Mostly follow that Which sounds like a second rate mauler. He doesn't seem to grasp objective. Wow Wow Sitch is his own Dude, he he does like to use an appeal to emotion For an argument, which isn't useless like If the majority of your audience really did feel a particular thing You can try and be like trying to account with them for that and be like this is this is doing this So clearly it's a problem like that would be a style Documentation it's just um I just I avoid it myself because it all it takes is one person to be like what didn't do that for me You're like stuck like what do you do from there? Try to convince them on the spot. Yeah And you you end up in that position of come on Come on Come on. You're like, what do you mean come on? You gotta do better than that Basically, Sitch you can't tell it you have to show it Anna they do you see it in maul's actions that you can't show it you have to tell it my brain ouch I think Anna has joined the stream at this point Oh my goodness something can be true and not explicitly stated Oh, you mean like Gravity existing nobody has to say it but it's true Now he attacks the jedi because he hates them says he hates them in the movie Where is this contradiction could have been better doesn't mean the movie is bad What about Anna's description of maul wasn't apparent in the movie. He wants to kill jedi Oh, I remember this part of it. I remember an objectively bad movie loses more money than it makes That's just not fair at all What about a movie that ever got released? Objectively bad movie that loses money can still be subjectively good to an individual If you want to go entirely by whether or not it makes profit go for it I mean anthropoid lost money. That's what I mean I refuse that just because it doesn't make enough money means it's not Yeah, that's ridiculous This e-fap is the least e-fappy and e-fap has ever e-fapped. No, hey just too little mauler and rags to climax You know now we know what the people really want. I was gonna say you can't you can't knock that they need more of us or mauler rag Palpatine move against the jedi first. Yeah, we did eventually get that out there Uh the e-fap facebook page has been challenging the plinkett pt reviews on stream under the objective microscope. They don't hold up very well Oh my Maybe not. Yeah Uh doth vader is one dimensional in a new hope Kind of think of all right. I would disagree with that Um, I'd have I think it provides an extra dimension the fact that he's like Uh insulted about his religion by his own faction He chokes the guy. Yeah, I feel like that definitely adds more to doth vader than just that. He's the bad guy Now vader we have a rule no choking in the conference room as you wish So epic Um concede the point stitch you done goofed Big oofs in the chat mauler next time. Please have a guess who've seen the movie. Oh Oh, shit shots fired. Don't be no don't let knobs be right about debates again And These debates are gay We knew it was true debates again Uh Linkett reviews don't hold up objectively. Hi rags Hello, and you very well might be correct. I haven't seen him in so long The hell is that? This is apex self-aware cringe. Why are you convinced that palpatine only had one plan and no contingencies? I think they wanted to be more explicit Uh, what if padme was palp's waifu crush and becoming em pro was part of his master plan to capture padme's used bathwater Oh It all makes sense by my dark side bathwater Be careful only dip a toe now dear only one tour at a time I'm tempted to report the video for how much stitch has abused logic tonight majorly seems rational at this point This has been a total trash fire That old lady wasn't that It was pretty bad. I mean It there was there was progress made. Okay, things were discussed. There was good things that could have been worse There was good things in it That old lady was like rags grandma at christmas The bodens one. Yeah, it's a new bone The bones are rude I can feel it in my bones any the storms coming out and get the fucking sign She was only in like that movie and one other thing Then she died two years three years ago at 96 years old She's been through a lot of sandstorms in her time the genius of papa palp's Plan was how easily it could adapt and change to unforeseen events outside his control Like I said most of the ways that the plan could ever go seem to be able to benefit him When you understand his only goal He is he is a clever little goober mr. Palpatine. There are many ways to Get what I want to care of the day The end of the senate to get a galactic army Movie the lauren was about to support her but was talked down by his aides Evil too electric boogaloo. I hate it when my aides talk me down Hey It's the people who propose the investigation that is suspect check the scene Propose the investigation. Do you mean the malice there people The congress of malice there blah blah blah blah blah. I can't remember check again. The council of malice there agree with the innovation He was gonna. Oh, but that's dumb. That's bad dialogue or something for reasons He was gonna stay but then jaja tells her about the gun gunami Oh, yeah, I think so. It's it's the knowledge of that army that makes her decide to go How big is the army? Are you well equipped? He's like this tab No, no, no, you got an army. That's fucking good enough, man They will never be Oh, I think he actually does specify doesn't he? He says a grand army. So yeah, um He's big They will never be helped now sitch. The no confidence is trying to fix the system regardless of the outcome of naboo There are two concerns They are too concerned I suggest we put this efap to a vote of no confidence. I need the support of each and every one of you to influence the senate Also if glib thinks that the republic government is bad writing then he must hate the e you Perhaps I hate the e you Uh for the next prequel debate people hate the e you yeah, I was gonna say this Good around the Round the the block um for the next people to debate Please get sophistic autistic judging from his chats on the discord. He'd make a great contribution to the discussion I uh I don't know who we would get if we were to do another prequel debate I don't know if we'd be allowed to Yeah, I feel I feel like I feel like we'd be Imagine chat on the opening of that stream. They're just like no There'll be one or two people saying more He literally almost did say override. Let's go to naboo That was talked down seconds before her no confidence vote. This is why he was weak Yeah, he does get talked to by his full peoples and he's like will you allow your I I don't remember Lib you're being an orphan Oh, no, it's not that they didn't believe her. They are corrupt. Look at the scene and the people calling for the investigation I had a good hot day at work and i'm happy to listen to you all whichever way this conversation goes I'm happy to watch an e-fap live big. Thanks. Oh Oh, hey look someone said six hours and 40 minutes in my brain hurts. That's how far we're into that stream. Yay Thanks for the timestamps Now we know Don't die on this hill glib move on UN commissions covered up human rights violations My god, why would Padme trust the corrupt UN commissions? um, yeah, that's another issue as well is that uh Doesn't Palpatine say something about that commission being Asim as well. I can't remember if that's in the film or not. I remember someone mentioning brain's all melty. Um We never see anyone poop in the entire series. We must assume everyone constantly is constipated I think that's fair emperor Constantine That's stupid. Constantine is the flag. I have been constipated for a thousand years Constantine is more poop than man now John John constipated Palpatine if I may say so your majesty the chancellor has very little real power Is mired down by baseless accusation corruption Manufactured scandals around him the bureaucrats are in charge now E-fap smash bros game when also high rags That was something we were thinking of doing but Fortunately the plan as it originally stood which was the three e-fap people versus the three great uh, British podcast people I can't really work now So maybe if we rejig it somehow get a different set of going I'm still down for it. Absolutely The naboo security force is an army glib move on That glib I want to thank you before I thought The Phantom Menace was a good movie But now I think The Phantom Menace is amazing. Thank you Wow The clone boy. Yeah, there's got plenty of plenty of snark in the in the super chat. Nothing wrong with that Um, the clone wars tv aren't canon in episode one alone. They retconned Ding zinj and 50 others as well as Hanon Leia in one small part of the ot era Everything that Mola said is in the clone wars. I haven't seen the show beyond season Yeah, I don't know much about it myself They are ignoring the fact that the trade federation blockade was one small group So the force required is much smaller. So you wouldn't need an entire republic army Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have suggested that that's probably what the senate would send I think they would be like we have to send the you know an enormous army to destroy the trade federation I don't even think there'd be a battle. I think they show up in a trade federation who are cowards Would be like, okay. Okay. Okay Like fine fine fine The movies never said that Coruscant had air that you can't just guess the movie must tell you so how do they breathe? Uh, I get it. I get it. I see the point that you are making Clone army was pan galactic planets had sick forces The trade federation are in the republic. They had their own military. So do the banking clan and techno youth It only makes sense that yeah, it only makes sense that independent members have their own independent armies Yeah, why we would ever assume they wouldn't I thought the debate was if the prequels are well better than the sequels not over which is better written I will um In terms of writing even sitch eventually said they think the prequels are better than sequels So that was pretty much completed. Nobody there thought that the sequels were better written So it was about how well the prequels were written I think it's a more interesting thing to say because sequels are so fucking bad that establishing that you're better than the sequels It's not worth much Glib is the worst efab guest Oh my god, glib You gotta prep that redemption arc This is sitch on my other account having fun so far. Oh, that's from literature devil Movie not explaining something and then the next one giving some details isn't a contradiction. It's called elaboration Right, um, what point that was talking about I'm not a hundred percent sure but I was just gonna say like so if you know If a guy like randomly Shoots lasers out of his face and destroys our hero and we're like, what the hell you could do that? And then the second film they go into deep depth about how you this guy can shoot lasers out of his face I'd be like, yeah, I don't care that you've explained that now. We needed it then Somebody could just do you know elaborating on but then In a different way if they wanted to explore what the tax problem was specifically that all started in phantom Menace in attack of the clones and like throwaway pieces here and there. I think that's fine Make us look back on phantom menace being like, oh, it's kind of cool that we know exactly what that particular tax problem was now But we didn't necessarily have to have it Naboo gungans wookies geonosians utopians Mandalorians, these are all planetary armies in episodes one two and three not just clones and droids Hi rags uwu. Hello uwu and we we get the gungans. We get the wookies. They get the trade federation Pretty pretty clear lots of armies of different sizes and effectiveness Yes, very very obvious the terkno union army at your disposal town The fact that naboo has a military means it's logical that other planets would also have them I don't even know that we need to see any armies to know that planets will probably have armies It would be really weird if they didn't Think it would be weird worthy of considering if they had someone say it's a pity that no planet in the entire system The entire galaxy has eddy army. I'd be like wow. It's a shame that firearms haven't been invented I'll be honest with you guys if I was leading any one of the individual systems I'd be like we should probably get a military just in case someone tries to fucking invade us because apparently that's a thing that happens Someone someone on our own planet doesn't invade our individual country fast Um, aside from older on who doesn't have an army in star wars I mean, do we know that older on didn't have an army? I know she says it's a peaceful planet Does she say it doesn't have a military at all? Um, I don't think I think she says we don't have an army and they're only referred to as like security forces. I think Are you thinking of naboo? I'm talking about the original trilogy now Oh alderaan, what does leia say about him? I do not know. I can't remember Go to when they pulled in this All you titan go older on is peaceful. We have no weapons. You can't possibly Yeah, I seriously doubt that older on have no weapons, but okay I'm assuming she's saying that as a form of pleading. I wouldn't actually assume that they have Surely it's impossible for them to not have weapons They must have tools and tools could absolutely be used weapons, right? Like it would be really weird if they absolutely had nothing that was weapon that is odd Yeah, people in chat are saying she's probably lying. I would assume she's just trying to plead that they don't destroy older on Yeah, it's likely It's a reasonable thing to say Dammit, it's explicitly stated that the senate is extremely red taped and corrupt trade fed is shown to have a power faction in senate to block action Admay went to the senate not for military aid But for them to challenge the invasion on legal economic grounds because the trade federation insists the occupation is No, they say that the invasion is illegal unless they get the tree defined Exactly when city is tells them to begin the invasion But well, no, there's not that illegal And he says I Motherfucker don't speak to me you fuck You up Kick your ass Very well, you all mean but uh, okay, I just get the job done What do you mean they do nothing they sent to jedi? Uh, the the chancellor said Yeah, in secret Chancellor of lauren did just realized how late it is in the uk Rags your twitter handle was your pal rags since your twitter got nuked does that statement still stand are you still my and everyone's pal Yes It is true For always and eternity I think ana was to speak but has audio issues Yeah, there were a few as as is a commonality in y'all efaps Mm-hmm What do you guys think of the film the fountain? Not seen it a fountain. I don't think I've seen it either I think it's worth giving credit to the prequels for being far more ambitious creatively than the sequels Yeah, I would rather just focus on how they achieved their goals versus having more interesting goals in general Because I think they beat out the sequels in that too Oh, yes, oh you seem to enjoy buffy just a little so I was wondering if you have read the continuation comics also hi ana I avoid the comics After I found out there's a guy don't want to spoil anything But they've made a few decisions that I find horribly bad as uh, what makes the end of both shows very meaningful to me Uh, the comics undo big portions of those things in order to have the story continue Which is precisely what I despise about a lot of what stories have to continue with like oh the story's not over guys Keep going. Keep going. Uh, this happens now. It's like, uh I'm a big fan of stories ending You know not in every case but in most in fact after stranger things season one With the cliffhanger they have I was like, ooh more stranger things cool and uh, smile around as you know Watching it with me and he was like boo should have ended I was like, oh, I don't know. I think we got potential here to make more story Is this gonna be good? He's like no boo. It'll be bad. Trust me It'll be bad because this season was made with a clear goal And now they're just dropping in a cliffhanger because they want to make more stuff to make more funny, you know Let me watch season two and we hated it like I was right and I was like, oh, all right That's the thing and then I watched season three with someone who was like, please watch it with me And I was like fine and I was laughing through most of it Ah Mola plays the movie youtube algorithm awakens And ironically, yeah, I get spooked whenever yeah, you gotta be careful Again the time on that one e-fap where it was like the message came up where it was just like they're breaching Some kind of rule. I was like, oh shit Don't kill us. We just want to talk about a movie I'm not trying to make them watch the movie. It was it almost happened with the stupid Mission impossible fallout shit when I was trying to show all I wanted to do is be like, look, there's the face making machine. Okay That's where it is one little thing from a movie. I was like, are you trying to play our movie and profit from it and substitute for it? I'm like, no, no, no, no If anything would promote your movie, please stop We're trying to help We come in peace Uh, if I'm being honest, I think jar jar is fine Oh Don't I wish you were lying. I think he's shit. I find jar jar to be quite fucking annoying but uh You know I think if I were told can I I redo phantom menace but also keep him in the way that he is and at least have him You know Take him down by like half of his percent in the movie. I'd be like, all right. Let's really work on this Can we make it so that You know, he's smoother and he's not as just A lot of weird shit that he says A lot of a lot of times we're just like, why are you here? Why are we focusing on you? I guess what you can really say is well We're kind of hoping that it You know Eases off the harder parts of the film or the tone and that kids have a funny rabbit to look Alien rabbit Oh, it stepped in the doo doo All right, jar jar you He stepped in the poopy Thoughts on the naughty dog situation From the little I know it's awful Yeah awful awful awful I'd say more just that looks like they've taken the last of us two in a horrible direction of which I will find out on And the way that they're trying to knock down people trying to talk about it is just classic doodoo that's happened in the doodoo Didn't didn't listen to jar jar right in that doodoo Jar jar reminded me of the silliness of yoda when we first encounter him Especially the interaction between r2d2. I guess that's why I gravitated toward him because he brought me back to a simpler time Yeah, but remember how yoda's was an act and it was supposed to be an act And I don't know I found yoda funny And yoda was actually funny. He saw these French I love these such especially on rewatches because you know, he's trolling God you legend Eating his uh his sausage that fuck Cheeky little Jar jar reminded me of the oh, so yeah Oh, this is this says revenge of the sith greater than attack of the clones greater than phantom menace Greater than empire greater than a new hope greater than return of the jedi. Please don't raw me I don't know man It will call raw if he's available then it's happening um A new hope then empire then Good, uh revenge of the sith then return to the jedi then phantom menace then attack the clones. I think people are just sharing their Six full five two one three Everyone sort of orders them Um anyone who's lived in a desert for a long time time can understand anakin's. I hate sand line. You know that It does make sense Yeah, I know I believe him. I never once thought he was being uh Being dishonest there I believe him that he hates sand I feel like after listening to him. I hate sand a little more myself. You know, I think it's coarse Rough it gets everywhere like it's even some good points grainy and gritty not a fan The time of my childhood. Oh wait Yeah, not my childhood. So jar jar is as much Star Wars to me as r2d2 I got chastised for liking episode one and that's why I can laugh now And we all agree the design of the lucha hulks and landing ships are literal perfection Even though we don't know if they can fit a woman The lucha hulks and landing ships. What about one of my what are they these referring to? Lutra hulks Oh the donut ships. Oh the donut ships called lucra hulks That's cool lucra hulks. I like that And the landing ship. Yeah, I mean I like the donut ship. It looks cool Whose tech is more gay the gungans or the Wakandans? Probably the Wakandans Yeah, they have no excuse the gungans are like underwater frog people While the Wakandans are the hyper-advanced vast materials ever fucking have spears Laser spears that blast people I guess but still spears Have you guys heard of chris chan a complete comprehensive history? It's a series of excellent youtube videos by knows No, we've had a couple I don't know about the videos. I know about the Character the person. I don't know about the internet videos. So not a few uh People referencing chris chan recently. What's the things going on there? Oh my um It's worth a listen and it's quite the long man and it's 30 seconds in each part. It's 40 to 50 minutes Put it on while you're editing or something can do Seven hours after my ship's ship starts and we're still going yay a Okay, let's the top 10 best-looking efap men go efap men um efap men Best-looking Like like the people we've covered or is it like efappers Is it the cast the people we've covered and the memes as well because like dawn, you know Yeah, obviously he's on the top Throw in tonal guess that we've had So that looks good. Yeah, so it's a handsome guy We have we had we planted plenty handsome people Maybe if the gungans and the nabu gods could have had a full assault on feed We give the gungans guns Gungans Like so we just have them hold up in feed with the droids and then we do a full assault and sneak a little teammate get to the Moideans this is a distraction thing. I think their plan works out well enough and the only question is just like wow the Moideans were so desperate to crush them out in the field that they Sent their guys out there then again Could you make the argument that palpatine convinced them to send his tisms out there because palpatine was secretly hoping that? Hey, if they win or lose, I'll have a way in to Get my seat Sweet you're still alive. Yay. Hi gnomes rags. You better back my boy up or i'm a shave you Uh back your boy up. Is he talking about an anomaly? I think I think so I mean sometimes it depends on what he says if he's right. I'll back him up if he's wrong. I won't Thank you mauler. I said back in 2015 that the force awakens would cause problems for the rest of the trilogy Well, yeah, I always I always feel like I have to Be like don't understate the badness of tfa A lot of people are still like hey tfa is pretty cool though. It's like a naughty little boy My favorite live stream is mauler and anomaly at the same time. What is this a crossover episode? Yeah sort of Revenge of the sith is a masterpiece fight me Revenge of the sith is a masterpiece. I wouldn't uh, I'd say it's not even average Not enter into the realm of masterpiece Prequels have the best memes even the chinese bootleg have some great memes equals sucket memes This is true. I absolutely agree. They have fantastic memes. The meme quality is The dream meme quality the topest of memes that ever came out of all three sequel films is probably the sacred text that and I don't even know. I think that just that was just because it's so absurd A sacred Jedi tack Generation tack made a joke that pad may falling into gegnosis in attack of the clones caused a small clot to form in your head and it grew and the stress of pregnancy kill her All of see it would have been cooler It's kind of hard to translate that to an audience without it coming across as a lame like if they went I'm afraid an aneurysm has burst They don't do they even say like she died mysteriously or something like that Don't they yeah, I thought they said like we can't explain it or whatever We can't explain it It's like, okay. I guess reasons we don't understand she is dying or That would be what it's like. She's dying Big sad big sad indeed and I feel like the droids would be able to pick up anything that was actually medically wrong Yeah, it's some force to it's the force the will of force Um at about 136 in episode one they discuss how the trade federation has complete control of naboo So no need to blockade a locked down planet, right? I don't see why they would move any of their ships out when this is their entire thing Then you just saw out today. Yeah, that's not important. We've got a we've just to go to the planet We haven't yet got the treaty signed and who knows what's going on in the senate Let's keep our ships if someone was like no, let's move them all the way except one be like why why Carl why explain to me your reasoning for the suggestion Seeing how pro come back they can experience Seeing how pro prequel chat is is so depressing may rich evans forgive them for their stupidity Also, fuck mary kill ray captain marvel kelly marie tran I'm not I'll marry kelly Fuck the other two. I wouldn't live with either Fuck ray. No, fuck kelly mary tran mary ray ill I'll kill captain marvel and uh, I don't know fuck ray Can't have it be that uh, I was tempted to kill ray because it's impossible Like even by the rules of this system is she just evades that Captain marvel though Yeah, captain marvel is the same thing happening really the plot. Yeah, I'd want to kill captain marvel captain marvel seems more powerful than ray Well, I did in mine Yeah, I Yeah, and I could put up with kelly mary tran because she's not She's not an unpre- she's a pretty lady. They just uglified her for tlj, which is weird prequel remake. Yes or no prequel remake no Yeah, we should focus on other things now Well, unless the spirit of the question is just like do you think it could be worthwhile to do it in perfect circumstances? In which case, I guess yes, but that would go for pretty much anything would almost anything Why not make this thing there at a point there at a point now we're in our memory where they're not bad Like they're bad like the movies are bad, but they're beloved by a lot of people And I kind of just want to keep that Yeah, under the current system is like why the hell would we want disney to remake the prequel? Like yeah Just don't have to make anything the droids are remote controlled by the droid ship Yes Yeah, oh slapped the The battle droids Hello I say biabi means I'm going for a sec. God. Wait. What moller are you there? No, I died All right dead it's all over I have an parity fat my new empire Your new empire How dare you say such a thing bastard you Bastard the battle droids rules of engagement seem to suggest that they are anti piracy guards for higher not hardened combat unit I think you'd be better. Do you think they'd be better if that was true? Andrails who needs them near a reactor? I don't know That's how they weed out shitty ones Why would the viceroy send his army into an open field and leave himself and the palace defenseless shad would be very upset Um, they did keep a decent chunk of droids with them and it was palpatine that told them to do it, right? He's like Wipe them out tanks outside It's not like he's completely defenseless And um, again, I I think I would I would square my argument on they were told to do it By palpatine palpatine finds it useful because if the viceroy are to pose and everything goes whatever happens at this point He's going to get what he wants Yeah, you might already have it at that point because we don't know what's happening in the senate while we're at naboo City has told them to wipe them out. So that's what they're going to do interrogate the surviving Fighters to find the civilian gungans and wipe wipe wipe Oh, I don't I don't I'm pretty sure when they accept the surrender from the gungans. It's still weird because they were told to wipe them out Yeah, wipe them out. It's like, oh, so accept their peaceful surrender I guess so I can shoot them in the face Hi, molar and rags. Can you both say and marcus was like Pa while whispering Are you go first? I don't know how to deliver that. It's eh So it's like and marcus was like pa I don't know. Yes. So and marcus was like do we have to do it while whispering Pop that mic and marcus was like And marcus was like There you go. We did it. I know what it means though You guys see my super chats Yes, yeah We've only just got a few more just to make sure Uh Only seeing the chat defend the prequels using the same tactics and logic of those who defend the sequels rich avans greater than anomaly Inc 5 4 6 7 3 8 1 2 9 Wow tlj is better than the phantom menace and attack the clones, huh? Uh, nope Nope They shall who I've What Flash for me. Uh, they shall who I've just been in this place before higher on the street and I know it's my time to go His rags are fairy like yms Nah Some early aircraft carriers were hilariously badly designed They had fuel lines and ventilation systems which send them into fuel air bombs from minimal battle damage poor training made it You say like you could have really shittily designed stuff because they happen in real life. It's like Yeah, you can but for the most part things are designed fairly well Especially spaceships you think lots riding on those working It's like airplanes are designed really really well and they're extremely safe I don't know that spaceships in the future would be like even more so That's what happened when you retrofit civilian cargo ships to aircraft carriers, especially if you consider entire scanty doctrine federation is using scanty doctrine Soda back have you to go best send you are not You guys seriously criticizing scene with design floors being used to take down an enemy ship when that's the entire plot of episode four Yes, I am because that's not the same Yeah, these are not they're they're only similar in the most broadest of contexts to the point of uselessness You guys seriously criticizing a film by accident. It's called Star Wars does this Yeah, they're not the same thing at all pretending like they are bend the rules we will bend over you should Wrong council already said yes Yoda was against it Yeah, that that final bit is Odd when you but when you really look at the language he's trying to say the council's approved of it and that he doesn't Uh buying schmi is technically taking part in the slave trade and it was supposed to show that the jedi and republic are too aloof and useless I don't know. I think I think we needed to address that specifically the schmi situation Halloween is witch and demon worship christmas is superior especially thanks to the elven slavery orcs are forced into coal mines Oh my god Slave the elves Anna and jay are luke and lair Oh I volunteer to reeducate Anna Okay C's tpm leading the polls. I love democracy Going through a planet core is crazy, but faster than light travel lightsabers and telekinesis is legit Like I said, I don't believe they actually flew through the specific core of the planet I'm assuming that's just what they refer to as the place near the core Yeah You're still gonna buy the blue rays, right? Rags you gay well technically by but whatevs Close enough Debates are the big gay Rags don't be gay when is tfa part four gonna be out? Oh This century is definitely what I can say rags. You're okay. I won't shave you this time No, well It's nice. You should do more writing and editing street Um, I I always found those to be redundant because I would end up spending more time responding or chatting with chat instead of working I did do a few of them back in the day and then I was like Walking to people about my work makes it so I work less and I was like damn. I'm destroying the whole point And the last one says stealth chat and that is it for the prequel debate stream Wow, those weren't that bad. I thought it would be worse actually Yeah, that was too bad. I thought we were going to be told about the worst things in the world detrimental to apocalypse, uh either way I actually I'm not gonna be able to continue for uh But I feel like it's a good way to sort of end it we've got Yeah, the next set is the super chat uh catch up that we did for the efab before that So we'll catch up on the catch up and then We've got the efab we recently did so The logic here will be that if we don't get to these in the next efab They will be gotten to in the next catch up If we don't do another catch up this week because there's lots to catch up on um It's all because of the incredible generous audience that we have that we even have to do these It's not a bad problem to have at all. I will say that and We will get to all of them. They cannot defeat her It will happen. I'm I think we did that pretty efficiently hours for 10 hours done yeah more memes are on the way and uh I guess more more streams are on the way. We got the next one planned is 7 p.m BST on saturday with your boy Evan Monroe critical drinker and a new guest someone who has been requested a couple of times and was I talked to him about coming on like a year ago and it's not go canaro. It's someone else And when I talked to him, I was like, oh my god, it's been so long since I've actually set up Finally coming and you guys are gonna be like, oh my god, I know that guy and uh, yes It's not tonal. No It's algae amati. We got him and we will it will not be a prequel arc video stream something else You all like it Yeah, I don't like it It'll be a lot of fun and uh Yeah, thank you for uh chilling out with us today and of course for watching the main line episodes This will be re-uploaded to a moolah in no time And I'll try and put return of the king out like two days from now. We'll see if it works I'm very excited Fingers crossed Thank you so very much for being so very generous everybody and uh always nice to chat with you We shall catch you on saturday if not earlier. See you saturday everybody