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We got a very special guest today This guy here needs no introduction This guy's from Louisiana man, but this guy really this guy different. I really really really am intrigued by this whole movement D1 is in the building one of the coldest ones. I've seen to do it when it comes to lyricism man. Yes, sir Thank you. Thank you, baby. Thank you. I appreciate that for real man. Thank you for coming on the show man. This is a Boss talk. I ain't know if this was gonna happen. I Look the first time we ever Instagram man, you have me feeling like, you know, I ain't even gonna tell him what you did Well, I think I think the shock value had does something so you wouldn't be the first one to hear something like that for me It's been things why people were texting me a big known people I'll be like don't text me on do all that text and call me on the phone. I'm from the old school Yeah, certain people call and be like what's wrong with it? You'll be amazed if I told you these people. I'm just like that. So that's you. I just love to bring it I love to be me. I don't like to be nobody else. I can't be nobody else Yeah, yeah, you're when you DM me bro, and I finally read it, you know months later Cuz I'm checking on my DM it threw me all the way up. I said man this man coming at me man Like like like I was a no-call no-show like I miss my opportunity No-call no-show I told you about it didn't I see I got it Undone him. I'm done with this guy, but I knew I had love for you That's why I was frustrated. I'm like this supposed to be an happen So that was way before any Did you reach out to him? How long before that? I just read y'all cuz I seen I was up one night and take and I was looking through my My phone was like a month before you actually Three months at about yeah about three and I just basically liked his style and his positivity and who he was and then You know New Orleans, man. I'm a New Orleans type of dude like yeah, I can tell you you really rock with my city Yeah, I could tell I listen to I know watch some of your episodes man I mean from Chirani I interviewed Chirani at Peachy's and different stuff that I went down in KL Me and KLC actually supposed to still be walking through the sit through his whole You know where he used to be at just to do it look like a little small skill of a documentary for me Yo, yeah, he ain't bad That's different. You know what I'm saying. So Boosie. I mean everybody you just name I got stories with all of Boosie I used to be his intern bro radio station. I went to LSU In bad rules and I used to be his intern him and DJ super Mike Shout out to shout out to my man DJ super Mike and DJ Boosie And when I became a teacher when I first graduated college, they came and spoke to my classes Yeah, so we was like that man. I was the intern so they see me go from an intern to you know to that that dude Yeah, they seen about something that DJ Boosie imparted on you that stuck with you even up to today Boosie well one thing with Boosie was he never made me feel like an intern You know, so he was the epitome of treat everybody the same whether they your boss or whether they the college Intern or whether it's the janitor at the station. So I saw that from him and also Boosie ain't from bad rude. You know, I mean But you couldn't you couldn't tell because he was so authentic that everybody just loved him and accepted him You know, we kind of like a finicky picky state, you know, I mean like New Orleans bad rude We'd be quick to be like so what high school you went to you know, I mean like who your people is where they stay at Everybody know everybody. Yeah, and if you don't really come from that Cloth we kind of like yeah, but DJ Boosie and DJ super Mike both of them. They they not from Louisiana at all But man that authenticity open doors. The talent came open and I learned that so I was like, ooh In this rap game, I want to be authentic more than I want to be real more than I want to be relatable More than I want to be hot or lit. I just want to be authentic. That's gonna get me further So I like to go into the background. What part of New Orleans are you from? I'm from the east the east to be specific. I'm from the goose. That's the name of my hood I've never heard of that one. Oh, yeah. I mean just look on CNN. Is that town downtown now? That's downtown. That's that's part of the night world. Okay. That's part of the night Yeah, I never heard him say the goose but the not the ghosts. Oh the goose like the goose Yeah, the goose so New Orleans know about the goose and checkerboard and all that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so unfortunately It's bad out there. It's real bad, you know, it's like a war zone now It wasn't even good when I was coming up. But now it's worse. Yeah, unfortunately and The area is bad, but I still I would never call the people bad, you know, I just can't circumstances Yeah, I can't find it in my heart to call the people bad, you know, I got a funny story about uh About my hood. So I grew up playing Baseball and basketball at Digby Park, right? That's a that's a playground in my hood and The other year a couple years ago, um, I have a I have a situation like a partnership with poma. So poma was like, look, um D we love the work you're doing with us. We want to do something with you in your hometown What you got in mind? I said, oh man, we got to go back to my hood in the east We got to go to the goose Matter of fact, we got to dig the playground and we're going to just give away a bunch of kicks for christmas, right? So christmas time come I announced that I put the word out there on social media Hey, I'm gonna be at digby on this day like december 21st. Everybody come out. We're just gonna have a thousand pair of shoes, right? You had 1,300 people who all came and converged now. Watch this my heart be in the right place But sometimes my heart moved quicker than my brain. You went about three more 300 more pairs of shoes, isn't you? Nope My heart wasn't in that place Jeremy, but this what happened. This is literally one of the one of the most, um Dangerous violent parts of New Orleans, right? We gave away a thousand pair of shoes and I was just so excited and I knew that I'm coming with love So because I'm leading with love. Oh, this is going to be an amazing giveaway It didn't hit me till that day when people came up to me They were like, so when like when is the police detail coming like one of the security guards coming And I was like, wait, what for what we need security? Like what you mean? And it was like, bro, do you know where we at? We finna give away a thousand pair shoes to people that's there's hurting right now You know I'm saying like you you just gotta have that somebody think you might get robbed or something like everybody was thinking that And I was like y'all I'm telling y'all man. We good. It was like it's christmas time People hurting people ready for and then you giving away something for free like what's up? Like you gotta have security out here We ain't have not one police officer, but we ain't have not one incident That's amazing everybody everybody came outdoors. It was like 30 degrees outside Everybody got their kicks love. We had food trucks. We had all that yeah man like when you lead with love That's why I say it's never the people that's bad, you know, it's the circumstances and it's Decisions bad decisions that people make But it's a difference between bad decisions and bad people Wow, you know you you basically you come from a place where I interviewed from mr. Servo to All these guys man silk the shocker, you know, I mean and just looking at how it was down there coming up You had your mother and father, you know, and I think that's big, you know When I start to look at the situation, but it ain't just everything because you have a lot of people that Make it regardless, you know I'm saying but for you to have that and then they still together now, right still together they've been married for over 40 years That's big Huge when you come from that just explain to me uh coming up as a as a kid in New Orleans. How was it for you? How was it? so I didn't realize That we lived In a war zone because inside the walls of that house we had we had a little small townhouse, you know I'm saying like not anything big or lavish at all, but It was so filled with love and structure that I didn't realize that outside of this house man It's a trap house across the street one house to the right It's you know police tape because people getting murked and people getting shot all in the neighborhood like This is considered a place where you know people with money definitely don't live around here I never realized any of that until I moved away and went to college Because when I moved away I was you know in a different environment and now when I would come back home I was like oh it feel different when I come back home than what I'm used to up in college You know I'm saying my daddy blue collar worker welder, you know I'm saying my mom's social worker So they I just saw him wake up every day make an honest living go to work My pops worked an hour away from our crib so he had to wake up at four in the morning And drive an hour each day just to get to work Welding in a hundred degree heat New Orleans heat, you know I'm saying all day every day And by the time he'd get off of work like 10 hours later He coming back he making it in time for my baseball practice for my basketball games, you know Still doing this stuff my pops used to be the dude who wanted to tape everything video everything So this wasn't in the era of smartphones and all that so my daddy had like a big news camera You hear me and he that he's sitting in the stands players. Yeah, he's sitting he's sitting in the stands and he uh He capturing all the memories for me. So now when I look back at all my high school games I'm like, dang I got this on tapes because my daddy after working 10 12 hours You know dirty dicky outfit on from welding all day making it in time because he prioritized that like I just seen That's what was normal to me. So that's how it was coming up. It was like a combination of that and also My life turned out different than a lot of my peers because The school system in New Orleans is not the best It's set up to where you supposed to go to your district school Of course And if you don't have a lot of money if you live in a poverty stricken area your district school is trash a lot of times The district schools that I was supposed to go to They were they were not They were not conducive for raising young black men and women In a in a loving place that also was academically rigorous, you know, I'm saying it was just it was dysfunction And it was like get it how you live, you know We're gonna have a couple shining stars that's going to emerge from here But for the most part the bar is set really low. That's that was all my schools, right? But I never went to those schools because my daddy when I was in kindergarten They had a school all the way across town by Tulane University and Loyola University was called Audubon Montessori They realized that like that right there that type of education is free because it's still a public school But it's also going to show david. That's me. You know, my name is david It's going to show david a different side of life than what we can provide for him over here Where we live at in the east, right to drive you to school every morning The first of all he had to camp out in a tent overnight To have a chance to enter a lottery to get me into the school Because so many people want to go to the school, right? So there was like the first 100 people have a chance to get into this school My daddy camped out the night before in a tent on the sidewalk and he was number six in line They had a line down the block. You heard me like a line to get in heaven or something It was like, yo, beaucoup people trying to get here. My daddy got there so early got me a spot I hit the lottery, you know, I mean hit the lot got in that school that school That changed my life because I went there from kindergarten to eighth grade and every day Although I'm living in one type of environment I'm going to school with black students white students asian students hispanic students I got to walk past million dollar houses the type of houses that drew breeze lives in The type of houses like an anthony davis will be living in when he was playing for the pelicans And I got to pass all this up every day. It's on the same block as my school You know, I mean this became normal to me to where it's like, oh, I'm not intimidated by white people I'm not intimidated by other ethnicities thinking they smarter than me Y'all had more money than me back then But I was in gifted classes, you know, I mean, so I'm seeing as a young kid like that Analyze certain things. Yeah, like the whole the whole concept of idolizing Uh material possessions like that was that was dead to me by the time I was in middle school. I was like, man Yeah, your parents got money so y'all live in this big fancy neighborhood, but When we getting them books, I'm doing better than you in school. You asking me for help You trying to copy off my paper, you know, I mean like it's life experiences that show me like dang I'm lacking in some areas like maybe having the money or having the exposure to certain things in life But I'm not lacking when it comes to like God gave me something special And I got to figure out what to do with this and that's something special was just always My brain and my and my ability to like lead with love wherever I go I got a question real quick because I see the things that your dad Sacrificing did so that you could have a better, you know, education and life and so forth Where did he get that drive to do that? How was he raised what Because you know how sometimes parents tend to because they didn't have I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that My son my children have a better life than what I did Um, or maybe he saw his mom or dad did the same for him. So he's doing the same for you I'm just trying to figure out where that Which way did it go? Yeah, you know, um in the black community, we often talk about trying to break generational curses, you know, I'm saying I was blessed that At least two or three generations before me in the black community We just had we had generational love and we had, uh, you know, generational Structure because where did my daddy get it from? He got it from his mama and his daddy. That's my grandparents They were married for 66 years. So they they had that same structure My grandpa's still living, you know 93 years old my grandma just passed away a couple years ago beautiful beautiful relationship like When you grow up when you grow up around that that get passed down, right? So so that's important Um, I got it. That's important. But also you got a lot of people who Like i'm a fan of hip hop before i'm an artist, you know, I mean I grew up listening to rap my whole life my daddy Listen to jazz music. So, you know, duke ellenton miles dave is charlie parker, um, cannonball adderley You know, all of them brothers, uh, nat adderley are all that but me Straight raps my whole life straight rap with that being said, I know these people's stories I know about pusher tea saying yeah, I grew up in a two-parent household as well I know about jayda kids being like yeah, I grew up in a two-parent household as well Just because you grew up with that structure don't mean what what's pusher tea favorite thing to rap about? Selling cocaine. You know what I mean? It's not a guarantee That just because you grew up with that structure that you're not gonna stray and depart from that jayda kiss I saw his daddy do an interview his daddy was like, yeah, we had him in private school You know what I mean? So when I was hearing what he was rapping about I was like What you saw let it we had you in private school. So sometimes people get in the rap game and they They they hallucinate now even just rap game is just life in period because it's one thing I've always asked a lot of people who sit right there is like Because of how you're raised or the environment you're in does that mean that your outcome have to be like everybody else is But you do have some who come out and be doctors lawyers and don't bump their heads, but you have a lot who do You know and I've been a parent you'd be like What is the right way of how to raise your child so they don't end up like that? Yeah, well in New Orleans, uh a lot of times bumping your head Is equivalent to losing your life We don't get a lot of little innocent light head bumps in New Orleans So like my best friend who grew up the same way as me we went to the same school We was like twins, you know, he got murdered because he started to stray from the path a little bit and he started to live a different life than how we were raised and brought up and Great dude. I mean you're looking at me. You're looking at him You know, he's that type of dude, but he made some different decisions in life and like I said in our city What What other people might call bumping your head, you know, we call getting your head knocked off, you know And unfortunately he didn't he didn't he didn't live to to shake back from some mistakes. Yeah So and I don't think that's just New Orleans when I say that now, you know, I was a teacher Um, I taught in bad rude. It's wild out there in bad rude Oh, I think it's I think it's worse in some parts of bad rules than New Orleans Because bad rules was always like the little brother to New Orleans So when you the little brother, you know, what you get you get a chip on your shoulder to where you like, man I'm tired of getting picked on I'm the little brother. Everybody's sleeping on me I'm about to go above and beyond to make sure I get noticed And bad rules they had that chip on their shoulder for a long time Let me ask you when you was young who you say you you love rap music What was the who was the artist that you love was it pee and them or was it What was the thing that you really listen to when you was coming up? That's a great question, bro I love answering this I was really really really into DMX DMX. Oh man, man, what? Yeah, like when DMX. Yeah, when DMX died, I shared real tears He died the day before my birthday man. I shared real tears, you know, I mean, um So I was really into DMX. I was really into knives. How did how did you how did you How did you learn about DMX who just listened to the music just hip-hop here, man? One of my middle Yeah, just listen to the music. That's how I found out about him. Of course watching BET MTV, but DMX's presence was so big when he got onto the scene that one of my Math teachers in middle school white dude named mr. Adams This man came in class one day reciting DMX lyrics We saw us. Uh, what do you really want? Nah, the the the intro he was reciting the the lyrics to an intro skit where DMX said just because I love my Yeah, of course, he wasn't saying and we're you know, I mean he wasn't dumb But he was like I shit. Oh, he replaced the n-word with students. That's what he did He said just because I love my students. I share blood for my students Little student holla. Where are my students? All I want to hear is right here my students Bro, that's when I was like, oh DMX is is on another level bro Then a lot of these other rappers he got a suburban white dude in class, you know wrapping this to his students So DMX knives, uh juvenile juvenile Lil Wayne Lil Wayne was the youngest out the clique. So it was easy coming up, you know My generation it was very easy to be like, yep, that's the one we like the most because he closest to our age He the youngest one he got the sound effects when he rapping You know, I mean I felt that so I really came up on them. Uh, uh, no limit as well I mean no limit. No limit has so many artists that it was like I just rock with the brand, you know, because man, it's hard to It's hard to even attach to just one or two people. I mean, of course, I loved mac I loved, uh Seymour, I loved Fiend, these are the albums I bought. I bought basalini. I bought shell shocked. I bought The last dime with the hologram cover, you know, I bought these albums So the New Orleans stuff, no limit cash money. Yes, but DMX and knives big. Yes to them. Wow. So Oh, I gotta add one more now. Who is that? Will Smith? Oh, man. I used to be slapping people Are you I used to rock with Will Smith, bro. Um, I used to rock with him Oh, he said he used to after he slapped Chris Rock, you quit rocking with him Man, I mean no as a rapper I used to rock with him. Yeah after he slapped Chris Rock I kind of I didn't respect that move, you know Because I felt like that move was in the effort to impress his uh his woman. You know what I'm saying and I didn't feel like that was Any time it's two brothers that I don't really rock Yeah Yeah, that's not in front the barbershop. Yeah in front the world. You feel me? That's that's that's what made it kind of If they did it off said somewhere, I still Are they two dudes? Yeah, but so I didn't respect that but when he when he uh, when he put out like Getting jiggy with it and that song just the two of us dedicated to his son Bro, like I used to could listen to rap, but my parents they had one. Um, they had one catch I had to listen to clean rap. So I had to be the edited version. So when I bought 400 degrees It was the edited version. Really when I bought the blackest half from shirani arpeggios It was the edited version. You know I'm saying like When I when I was listening to these albums, it was always the curse words bleeped out Will Smith never cursed in his music. So I was like, oh, I could get like The real version of his album not the edited version and that's what that's part of what influenced me Because I was like man this man went platinum with no curse words Yeah Okay, I didn't even want to be a rapper back then but when I did start rapping one thing I always remember was like, yo I don't want cursing my music and that's aside from my religion and me being christian and all that even outside of that I love the fact that You could be a dude that's like, hey, let's do a different but dope at the same time, you know And I just I was up for that challenge. So That's the crazy part because I like to say I I just know that you you know You you listen to so you had to have some type of influence as you know So how was you when you when you really I knew you I heard you say you was in college When you when you started rapping, but when when how was you when you knew that you had a possibility? I want to rap So I played basketball And I thought that was gonna be my ticket, you know, that was my first where you could yeah I was no I was really good. I was like setting records at my school and everything. Yeah, I was And I had the opportunity to play in college But I wanted to play d1, you know, if you're familiar with college athletics, that's the dream right there You're trying to play at them big schools. I could have played d2 and d3, you know I was on that type of level But I tried to play d1. So I went to lsu a d1 school And I tried out for the team tried to walk on got cut right whoo Bruise my ego, you know, because I'm I'm I'm used to being the man on campus I'm averaging 20 a game in high school, you know district 4a like people that's in the NBA right now like dj augustine people that's uh In the league right now and played and put up real numbers real legends where I come from Bolester mcaleb, you know people like this, uh my man Milton like I was balling with them. I was I was holding my own against them, you know, I'm saying uh my man tweeded the mine Carter like I was holding my own with these people. So of course when I got cut from my college team That stuff didn't feel right. So that's when I get cut from the basketball team meanwhile all my friends in college They all picked up a new hobby once we once we got to school It's like everybody turned into a rapper, you know, everybody wants to reinvent themselves and they all in the dorm room They got they recording equipment and they having ciphers and they spitting and all this So I was like, dang everybody all the black dudes in my school look like they into rapping Let me try, you know, I just kind of got into it like that like let me try And you know when you're going around the circle and everybody rapping Everybody went home the night before and wrote something and now y'all all spitting it for each other And when y'all all spitting it you could kind of tell like oh he trash Like oh, he better not ever rap again after this, you know He's straight And then some people you just like mm. He got that it factor I had the it factor and everybody knew it, you know from the time I started rapping I had the it factor. I just didn't have confidence at the time, you know I had the it factor when it came to that panel and those lyrics So I um, I started rapping. Yeah in college, bro And it was just a little hobby at first But all in one year my freshman year I got cut from the basketball team One of my best friends got murdered like I was talking to y'all about My girlfriend cheated on me with a lsu football player, you know That stuff that stuff that was tough and then My roommate in college starts selling dope. You hear me? All this stuff happened in a small amount of time So when I started rapping I had a lot built up on the inside that it was like man, I gotta talk about this stuff, you know So for me therapy real quick it became therapy free therapy I think I think you you know when you when you bought and I'm gonna cut you off But when you bought it all in a nutshell and you put all those factors together I always think about the three days are done. I always talk about that. You got to go through your you you call it You know Issues, but it's three days of dying meaning you had to go through that in order to transform You know, did you get closer to god during that time? That's when I found god Okay, or he found you but at the end of the day that's the three days You know when you start going through a losing your girl these doors start closing And and these doors are closing for a reason. That's god saying no You know what I'm saying like and basically getting you positioned to be honest with you to make that decision to be So I think that's a beautiful thing because I went through my three days of dying and I I love it You know I'm saying because I wouldn't be who I am today I wouldn't even have this wife you look back on it and now and you like that's the thing could ever Ever happen. I'm like man. I was in tears man when these things were happening to me And now I'm looking back like I would not be who I am without that stuff happening That's really thankful for you know, yeah like life is amazing that way another thing that happened during college There was life altering is me and my partner We were playing basketball at our apartment complex one day and we were victims of an armed robbery You know, I mean so when a dude is holding a gun, you know to my temple, you know, I'm saying Threatening to kill me man. And I'm thinking that's about to be a rap for me You know, I'm just sitting there like dang. I never thought I was gonna die like this. It's crazy And thankfully I made it out there situation something happened. He put the gun up there They ran off because somebody was looking but um Making it out of that That let me know, you know how people say live every day like it's your last, you know It's hard to live every day like it's your last if you ain't never felt like it's about to be your last I felt like it was about to be my last. No, that's a real talk. I get it. Um, yeah, so you you I When you went viral you made this song right about this the rappers j-50 and and white wheezy Um, which is crazy to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, uh, what made you do it and because you said courage Like, you know, you had to be a confidence up Some had to had to had to trigger and you to say I'm gonna make this song Yeah, so I was uh, I was a middle school teacher when I made that song so At night I'd be hitting the studio and I was a rapper but by day and I'm in the trenches with six graders Eight graders and as I'm teaching them I'm seeing how influenced they are by rap music And I'm seeing how miseducated they are being by rap music, you know, I mean I'm seeing middle schoolers come in school with tattoos and they don't even know what the tattoos mean Middle school MOB tatted on his arm one of my students. I said man MOB, you know what that mean, bro money over All member of the bloods, right? It's one of the two and he looked at me and he was like no sir I said no sir. What I don't know what it means. I said, why you got it? Because Lil Wayne got a tattooed on him. Wow. And that was his favorite rapper It's moments like that It's moments like one of my students Who really I didn't get along with man all my students love me. They had this one dude I just could not crack the code on how to get through to him and dude actually wanted to fight me one day, you know, I mean and I finally man. I had to I had to block the exit to my class. I let everybody else out of class I say it's just me and you in here, bro. I say you're not leaving this class till we talk, bro Like I love you. I got nothing against you. Like, let me know. What's up, man? You always got a boot in your lip like you ready. You look like you ready to put hands on me Like what's going on Staying in class for almost an hour with him when it finally, you know came down to it I realized this brother had issues with submitting to male authority figures because His his mom had some dude around him that you know, I guess whoever she was dating at the time That was trying to get him to sell dope, you know, I mean saying like, oh, you want some new Jordans You want that that I huh go go go move this for me, you know, I mean like And and he going through this at home in terms of just like being conflicted like Is this is this what the definition of real manhood is and if it is then cool What I'm seeing from mr. Augustine in the classroom I ain't feeling this way, you know, I'm feeling this way because this dude put money in my pocket and that like this just This this seemed like was cool and I'm trying to deconstruct You know what he was like exposed to every day and telling him Yeah dismantle his thinking and that's tough because cognitively a middle schooler is sitting there like you're going against Was feeding me right now, you know, um Going through that type of stuff bro and seeing That all the music that they'll recite like that. I can't get you to learn your multiplication tables But you know all the lyrics to lil boost is on Like like for real that that's what led me to make that song bro. So I was like, let me address three of the rappers in the game Jay Z 50 cent and lil wane who I know They are smart Regardless of what they're rapping about they're smart enough to know that they ain't living their life anymore You know what I mean? And I'm like if you're smart enough to know that you came from that life But you had to all the way separate from it because now you've elevated I wish y'all were smart enough to know how much you impact in these kids and now to Tell them something different in your music. I have a problem with You're not living that way anymore, but you're still glorifying that lifestyle You know, and that's what I saw in all of their music at the time keep in mind This is back in like 2009 2010 2011 um So that's why I did that song and I always say it's not a you know in rap when you say somebody's name It's automatically implied like oh, oh, we beefing you call me out by name You just ain't no subtle Subliminal that you threw I say i'm gonna yep I'm gonna call you all out by name, but it's not a diss song It's a real song and accountability does not have to be looked at as an attack Did anyone ever reach out to you personally? Yeah, no But they all all three of them had people who rock with them that did reach out to me Wow Yeah, so jz they had people that all they all they told me was yeah, he heard the song Just know he heard the song d and I was like, so what he thought about it? Like what he say like that? I don't want to tell me nothing. They're just like just know he heard it 50 cent His people flew me up to new york to do an interview. You know, he got the website This is 50 dot count correct they interviewed me and asked me about the song on his platform that he owned You know, so he wasn't there Uh, nah, I thought he was gonna jump out the closet or something during the interview I was like, let me be ready for anything. You know, I'm saying yeah, so they interviewed me And I wasn't afraid bro. I actually met 50 cent After I recorded that song He was in bad news and I gave him a cd to have that song on it I said number seven on that album, bro. That's so that's a song I did about you Jay-Z and Lil Wayne like listen to it bro. I'm saying some important stuff on there You know, it's all I said and I gave it to him. He looked at the cd He saw his name on the song title and he looked back at me And he was like, I don't know if he ever listened to it, but he eventually heard it when that song blew up You know, I mean and Lil Wayne definitely heard it. Um, I got that confirmed by mac man. You know, okay Yeah, mac man shout out. Yeah shout big shout out to mac man Got that confirmed by mac man also got that confirmed by bird man and slim because uh, they actually tried to sign me A little bit after that song. I remember I heard something about that. I didn't agree with you on it But you thought you thought I should have signed to them I think so much bigger than certain people, you know, I mean when I say certain people just I think different man like like I really feel like you you special god got you in a position for a reason You know what I mean? And I don't think people understand the the gist of The natural man versus the spiritual man just cause one may be older than you and seem to be wiser and richer They still not be in the spirit to ram you totally something different. So you're a big brother You understand what I'm saying? So I felt like These are opportunities where somebody can get saved and helped because you're that powerful So Do you understand where I'm coming from? I totally understand That's all I'm saying not in a bad way I know you did it and god put you in different situations where you've been able to help a lot more people But at the end of the day, I just think that a lot of times it was a couple of situations where I researched I was like, man They need this guy. So here's the thing Can you have a relationship without being in business with somebody is the question? Yes, and that's the part for me that I was just like, yo, I don't mind having a relationship but in terms of having to be signed like I'm not really feeling the idea of being signed because truthfully Most of the people that got signed to them didn't blow up Well, I can't go there with you man when you think about you talking about drake Drake blew up you talking about nicky manage. She blew up you talking about Juvenile didn't blow up. He blew up. But you see what I'm saying? I mean and But it ain't about it ain't really about for me blowing up because that's the physical of it. You know what I mean? Um, I think far as the paperwork, that's something when you do sign up for something You got to stand on what you signed up for. So I don't know the situation far as the paperwork But spiritually, it's a different world for me. That's all I'm got you You get it. So I get it what you're saying. I know physical Opportunity is going to definitely be there. But spiritual is way more important than I think people don't give that. It's just yeah You know, but like I said, you could have changed a whole cashmine. It might be something totally different man Because of the power when you that's all I'm saying. So I'm gonna say this too one of the things I'm I pride myself on is God has uniquely positioned me to Be as bold as I am about being a man of God And having this message in my music and my whole mission vision movement is all about being real righteous and relevant But at the same time I got that Authenticity that speaks to people who might currently be in a whole different headspace in their life You know, I'm gonna show you this right quick. Like this is this two days ago. You know, I mean Oh, yeah for sure. You know, yeah Yeah, like and and that's and that's him reaching out to me. Send it to me. Yeah, I sent it to you That's him reaching out to me. Like, you know, I don't mind saying in the interview That's me and Kodak on FaceTime Kodak black and When we talking on FaceTime for like 30 something minutes just running it, you know, I mean it ain't about no It ain't about no business. That's it. It's about some it's about it's love. You see that smile, you know, yeah I'm thankful bro that like powerful. Yeah And and the relationship here different when you don't want anything from these people true at that time, bro my My whole life wasn't what it is now. So with the cash money situation, it was like, I get it. Yeah, bro. It was like, man Like I try to figure it out. I'm trying to figure it out right now By grace of God, I got to figure it out. My brother. Like I get it. We living good right now I figured that when I when I seen him. I was like, he was younger But I just know that God got some special in you because of stuff like that That's powerful man. Like many people not going to be able to reach to people Me and you going to talk to that's what this is all about and I've told you that You know what I mean? Like and when I get that opportunity, this is the opportunity for me to inject some in them They'll never get and it's not gonna be forced on them. There you go. It's just gonna be who I am And that's the part right there. So it's For that for that what you have to be in the midst of a certain group of people no matter who it is It's gonna change things. Absolutely. So, you know, so that's that's what I've been doing, man It was hard to say no to it though, bro. Like one time slim slim I was sitting down meeting with slim in his hotel room and Man, we were talking and I had a show that day But when slim called and told me he was in town and he wanted to meet with me I was like, dang, I don't want to miss out on this this meeting with slim But I had this show I was supposed to go do. So man, that's the only time in my career I have a like last second backed out of doing a show to go meet with slim And I told him this when I met with him and he was like, how much you was gonna get paid at that show And I told him, right? It was a few racks at the time. Um, man, he went in his pocket and just Just gave me that bro. So when you around that type of money back then keep in mind back then where I was coming from making $39,000 a year as a teacher and I'm just like management just gave me like three G's just like that. Like it's nothing, you know I used to have to work about Almost a whole month to make $3,000 as a teacher, you know, when I'm seeing that it's hard to say no to that stuff, man um, but Hopefully people feel me on this Sometimes you could be focused on planting seeds in life and letting god use you god I got all these seeds. I want plant all around the world But you got to recognize that some of the soil that you're trying to plant those seeds on some of that soil is infertile Yeah So no matter how many seeds you plant on that soil is infertile And it's like are you going to waste your life? Just trying to plant seeds where you want to plant them at or you're going to be like man God is like organically opening all these doors for me to reach all these people and plant all these seeds and for me That was That's what I chose and I think that's the best decision I could have made as a young brother coming up in hip hop is not to be selfish with my gift because Yeah, all my partners man. That's cash money man. Go man. What you mean? We grew up looking up to them dudes But that's the difference. We grew up idolizing them dudes, but idolizing somebody's actually a sin Definitely, you know that's going against the Ten Commandments We grew up looking at these people as legends now that i'm older and wiser i'm like We got to watch that word legend bro when we throw that word out there It's like a legend of what if you're a legend at poisoning our community And making negativity sound good because you lyrical and because you got a fire flow I don't want to call that legendary anymore Just because we grew up and it was mass marketed to us and people was like man these these the people that That's the spokesman for y'all city and all that all right cool. I could pull out the the good from from anything But ultimately i'm not idolizing nobody and i'm not calling people legends at this point Who when you really break down with their legend of it's like man that That contributed to more of what's wrong with my generation is that we grew up looking up to some of this That's real. Um like cash money masterpiece No limit We've been campaigning to get them in the same room in the same setting You know what i mean for us just to try to try to just to look it doesn't well Is it going to change this is just like jeff orton and me talking about larry hoover juniors dad larry Who ate breakfast together certain things just need to be done symbolically mean something could save one life And that's powerful. You see what i'm saying? So the thing is I always look at these opportunities and these platforms and these ways that we're able to deal with these people not today if D1 gets this opportunity to deal with cash money or to deal with whoever It's a whole another mature level of who this guy d1 is you see what i'm saying? So I get it. I understand it and I know but I just know you're a powerful powerful brother when you come down to influence Look who you got on the phone Uh, I could see you it with a nba young boy the same way. I could see you with a with a uh freddo bang That's my last student. I was his teacher. Okay freddo bang As my enemy I hear things I think yeah freddo bang locked up right now. No, no, no, no, no freddo He out of work. Uh freddo is out of bad rude bad rude. No, I was talking about who's the boy out of little rock garden so um Trap boy freddy. No, no, no. No. No. No. No. He had he had balance Bankroll freddy. There you go. He locked up. Yeah. Okay. So so freddo brings is the one that uh, thank you. Uh Cho's talked about on here, wasn't it? Yeah that he do music with freddo bangs. Yeah, yeah, dj shows that he showed Yeah, chose call me we we talked but he came on he was saying that it was uh, just being in the studio It gets tough sometime Around that environment and who might be looking for who uh, you know shows say that yeah, he did Things freddo freddo bro, uh, man freddo. I've seen so much maturity Do you realize that when freddo and nba young boy shows to squash their beef publicly? Yeah a few months back I remember that. Did you realize like how many lives that saved? Yes when they chose to do that publicly that's hard that's stuff that Our generation we like man. Why did I ruin 50 cent can't squash their beef? Why why bird man and master p can't get together and you got two brothers in the mid 20s That shows to say hey, we're gonna put our differences to the side. You know what I mean? It's been real bloodshed behind that beef. You know what I mean? So I loved that and I and I was proud of him and I hit him personally I told him I said I said and you know how I told you I don't call people Legends or I don't idolize people no more and I was like I think I that's exactly what I told him I said what you just did today was legendary. That's real. Let's put you in a whole different space Yeah, it's just a different world when you look and think looking at things from a spiritual A lot of it is ego too to mean and they don't take themselves out of the flesh Because when we ask when we ask people about master p or Um bird man is like well or even like mode three With um before he had passed the rest of the rest of yellow and trapping yellow and trapping stuff People always say that'll never happen. It was too much bloodshed that happened For them to even come back together really and I'm like and that's that's always the same answer It's too much bloodshed too many people are that's just unforgiveness is what you go That's that's all I'm hearing is I'm forgiving exactly. They ain't read the bible They must not know how much blood was shed in the bible and God still used those same people who were murderers You know what I'm saying? Paul who was from the song. Come on man. It turned them into Paul. You know what I mean? They don't see how David was still seen as a man after God's own heart and David out here Messing with bad sheba got bad sheba's husband murked. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, right ahead tight come on man. So That's that's what happens when we apply like Human knowledge and human what we call wisdom to the spiritual realm of life Like unforgiveness is a thing that human beings. It's easy as a human to be like nah I ain't never forgiving that person because of what they did if you're thinking in human terms, but when you apply Spiritual wisdom to the life we live it pulls the side out of you. That's not natural. You know what I mean? And to forgive people that's something spiritual like naturally we don't want to forgive because we don't forget remember rigoros had an album um rigoros had an album called God forgives. I don't Yeah, remember that remember the album title God forgives. I don't I'm just like man, bro That's that sound that's our blasphemous right there. Like we once we say that we don't forgive people. It's just like We basically saying we now willing to grow No, but unforgiveness unforgiveness is something that um, the human generation I call it ego unforgiveness I always talk to people about that I always say, you know, our lives is not our own I want to say that mean like situations that we go through it's not always because of Okay, so I was saying that you know in life and I say this all the time How I look on life I look on life like when you're born God clock you in at this Job called life life And you have every each person have a job to do we might not know exactly what our job is But when your job is done He clocks you out and when I tell some people this are like But a baby who was just born and died right then and there I said That baby's job might have been to touch the nurse That witnessed it or whoever is around the mama the daddy who saw this person pregnant for all these nine months And going through all these different changes That person could have been on drugs and stopped taking drugs because of that child We don't know that child finished their job. So god took that child Because they touched whoever they're supposed to touch and change it. That's why in life I always said like live your life to the best you can because Whoever you touch might not always come to you and say, thank you so much you changed my life But because of you Somebody who's watching your life change it and now we're in a in a generation where everything is on social media Being recorded whatever you can touch so much more by Just being true To what we believe in Yo that that makes so much I see why you married her bro Yeah, well, you know, I am I did what god gave me the ability to do I was a changed man and I needed to do I married in four months when I met her and we've been together for 20 years I walked by faith and not by sight. There you go. I get it because what you just said that is so real because A lot of times when you try to talk to people about god They they look for like the most extreme example of something to Go against what you're trying to tell them Oh man God has a purpose for all of our lives and they're their first thing they'll say will be well What about a baby to die when they're three months old? And I love their response because that takes wisdom to know That god can god can indirectly bless people even use babes Yeah, even even through a non traditional way even through even through death Like you said the the process of that baby being born the process of that mother Being pregnant could have been a blessing to other people exactly and and we don't know who it is That we need to be touching but we have a job to touch each other Oh, yeah somewhere for you know, it's instagram made it to where everybody want They won't get their flowers right now like they won't see it They won't be like oh if I if I ever bless you I need to see it and document it and be able to post it on my page But like you said a lot of the people who I learned that by doing music because I'm like I got so many millions of streams on my music But I could never meet all these millions of people in life So I had to learn to be okay with hey What you're choosing to put on this album d1? This is going to reach people that you will never see in person But you should love those people and and appreciate The fact that you got their attention span for why they're listening to your music and handle that with care, bro don't be don't be Negligent with the opportunity to to change their life and don't don't fumble with that opportunity to really like You know sow some seeds of wisdom and godliness into them. Wow David and goliath was your first album. It was what was uh, what um What what possessed you to do that was because your name is david and because you read up on david and and not just basheba, but the fact that he was A rudy boy He was you know, I mean he was young and he was the one that would they least expected It was more it was more that one underdog, you know underdog mentality me getting into the rap game at the time Everybody telling me bro You're not going to make it trying to go against the grain bro the people that's popping in our state right now Is li'l Wayne kevin gays bossy, you know, this is this is what they want to hear You trying to be so different You ain't gonna make it like that that that didn't make me change that made me go twice as hard I felt like the underdog like david So I said david and goliath this whole industry is goliath You heard me, but I know what my slingshot is my slingshot is this microphone I know that with this microphone when I use this for the purpose god designed it I'm gonna be able to slay this goliath. Wow. Here we are. That's huge. I wanted to ask you about, uh, Dr. Boyce was it that dr. Boyce walkins. What what uh when I say that name what comes to mind? og mentor A brother who Took me in and gave me the cosign that I was running behind so many rappers trying to get You know, I was driving state to state trying to get ti to co-sign me trying to trying to get Wayne to co-sign me Trying to get ludicrous to co-sign me Um, man, I just gave my cd out to so many people, you know, I was that dude Giving my cd to jaman do pre bg Birdman like like all these all these people, right? Meanwhile, dr. Boyce walkins never even met him in person But brother ended up hitting me up on the internet one day brother. You are a lyrical genius My d1 man, you amazing. Can I interview you and and I want to put you on my platform? And you know, I want to I want to turn all my people on to you Me seeing somebody embrace me like that Come on. What else i'm going to do but say man, bro, you got you got my friendship You got my loyalty, bro. Thank you for this and when you got people that's co-signing you like a boyce walkins Brother named the hip hop doc. He's a doctor in baton rouge a doctor, right? Who me and him did some work together where we would go around to different schools And I would I would write these raps for us where we were rapping about like exercising and eating healthy and Stroke and and heart disease and just things to teach you about, you know, healthy lifestyles He was a big co-signer of mine. I realized like man, god really got A different path for me my co-signs the people that's willing to put their arm around me and open doors for me It's not the rappers. I grew up idolizing. You know what I mean? So when you talk to me about legends, you know I'm not going to be naming rappers as legends. I'm going to name people as legends who are a Successful in what they're doing, but b the way that they're doing what they're doing is what's making them legendary Because it's like you're doing stuff that's positive for the community You're doing stuff that gotta be proud of and you successful at it. That's legendary to me I like it man. I really I really enjoy uh hearing the the way that uh, you know, you really Went against the grain and and the thing because because you don't see that a lot but being a uh, you were a Were catholic at first, but now you you've chosen to be I don't like to say christian. I'm Protestant, you know, like just you know Martin Lutheran said the just your little by faith and he went with that You know what I'm saying like when you read the book for what's there and you you walked on the hot desert sand And you tied your camel to a date tree as I say You're reading what's there and you're living for what's there and it's more for me It was more directed to me as a personal relationship with god, you know what I mean But the other way was more like I'm just going to the beat of somebody else's drum Yeah, you know what I mean when you think of the other ways that you see others Prescribed the you know take the take the prescription, you know what I'm saying So for you to change that how big was that to say, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna start doing it this way Man, it got to that point where I would feel so guilty if I did it any other way You know, if I was in this rap game Putting out poison and putting out content that I know is killing our people I wouldn't be able to sleep well at night. You know I know it's hard bro. Like I got I got a verse. I won't spit this verse for you. I checked this out I say What's the point of writing all of these lyrics if I'm rapping to an audience that ain't trying to hear it They'd rather me blow a bag than rap about building wealth They'd rather me get some brain than rap about mental health Don't censor me. Eventually try to make sense of me. I don't need your dollars I need you to think sensibly you feel good. Not that you're vegan. That's funny If you're still promoting garbage, you're just a healthy dummy. My city don't even love me. I'm calling it how it is I'm a threat to the power structure that's brainwashing our kids I'm fracturing all the egos of illegitimate heroes I only look up to one man because he died and he rose I keep it too real because life don't last too long if everybody likes me I'm doing something too wrong. Maybe in time they'll appreciate my words like nipsey till then I'ma see how far keeping the real gets me. Yeah, and I like that man. Yeah I think that's so important, you know to be able to understand who you are self awareness is so so real, bro Bro, I bro. I'ma tell you self awareness was when I first got into the rap game. I wanted to go platinum You know when I first first got into it real quick though. I realized man, look all these people who went platinum did They ain't happy They ain't got no peace They went platinum. They still fool around They're not getting along with their own family. You know I'm saying all this stuff Rather than going platinum in the rap game. I'd rather go platinum in heaven And and and I want to say something on that note I want to ask you something like when you see people get up and receive the awards and they say I want thank god Bro, I'll be ready to throw something at the tv man of people. Stop thanking god For your foolishness and your wretchedness winning an award. You're at me Just because you won an award that ain't god. You're at me When when people when people get up at the award shows and they think that they got to realize the devil can elevate you too The devil can really bless you as well and say oh, that's all it takes Some success for you to keep doing that and keep going down that road to destruction bet I'm finna elevate you. I'm finna elevate you man. That's not of god, man I hate when people get at the award shows and they want to thank god for that Now that doesn't mean that god can't still use them, but that ain't god That's pleased with what you're doing and putting out there and some people get mad at that and you know They try to tell me Come on D. This is black people that's elevating from poverty and now they creating wealth for themselves and for generations after them And it's like that selfish to only think about the wealth that they creating for themselves for their family members And for their close circle meanwhile their music is reaching millions and miss educating millions of people So I rather I rather get those millions of people back As opposed to saying well wealth got created for 20 people wealth doing what Real talk the thing that um, I've heard a lot of people say I want to say A handful of people that come on here and they'll say something like They want to do that righteous music. They want to do the good music because they have kids who is listening to them They don't want to You know do all of this anymore But they're not at a stage to stop Because what they say they want to keep doing this type of music so they can get the millions of People then they can gradually change and not lose their crowd They starting off when you do the righteous music You only have 20 people who because they don't really want to hear that so like for them They want to capture the whole audience first then switch it That sound like that sound like teeny weeny weeny weeny bitty Small faith that those people have Because if you got small faith, you're gonna say, oh, yeah, I'll never make it rapping righteous rapping real rapping about some Some some some stuff that's this healthy for our community. I'd never make it sound like you got small faith But we serve a big god You're in me. That's what I said earlier. We serve a big old god And if if you got skills just because you're doing something real Don't mean that it's an excuse for it to be lame and corny You still got to be a beast, you know what I'm saying? Like when I get on the microphone, like I give people goosebumps You know what I mean? Like with what I'm spitting you still got to be a dog at what you do but To say oh, they don't want to hear that like people don't want What you bring into the table they got enough rappers you got to be so dope at what you do That you make these people stop They life and be like Who is this and when you can do that you could be rapping about anything It's just do you had that it factor? You feel me when you think about you People look at you and they see you rap like say you got songs with people who do Rapping those realms whether it be big crit or whoever, you know, that may rap about something else that you guys might or not Wrapped about at the time. What do you think about? You know the critics because the critics are out here like they're gonna be looking They look in the the accuser always is looking to accuse and try to catch you up Like how do you get around those conversations? Everybody is a sinner Like I hope them people not watching this uh this interview right now thinking i'm perfect I hope they're not thinking I don't still struggle and I don't still sin and that i'm asking for forgiveness on a daily basis You heard me? So that's really important to me bro. Like it's it's crazy if people thinking Oh man, you got uh, there's nobody perfect. Yeah, like like you got this person on your song. I got a song with the game I got something with juvenile. I got something looping fiasco big crit man. Come on man Like how are these people any different than if I have a song with a gospel artist or A christian artist you think that christian artist ain't a sinner as well If anything it should be a blessing to you that Man the game told me this when the game hopped on the song with me I got the voice member to prove it. I let you hear he said hey, bro Just the first song I ever did my whole career where I ain't curse But I respect you that much. I know you don't curse so I ain't curse on this song. Wow. He did that. He did that That's powerful man. Hey, that's that's real powerful. That's what I was telling you about earlier That's the power I tell you you possess. Yeah, is that you don't know It's like having something that's so powerful in your possession And and and not understanding how powerful it is at the time when the situation presents itself That's what I was talking about earlier. Got you because it's so powerful within you That it's more powerful than anything that you could ever think or imagine or see And that's what's big about it, bro. You you're so right, bro And I'm I'm just gonna tell you this I'm gonna tell you this. Um, when you are in a When you are in a secure Uh situation like career-wise and financially It hit way different when you have these interactions because I used to always want something From people that were like bigger than me or further along So I don't even think I was in the headspace back then to minister To a lot of the big dogs in this game because I needed them, you know, I don't need them now You know in trouble. Yeah, I don't need them So now when me and Kodak on FaceTime or when me and the game doing the song I don't have to be like man We just gonna talk about whatever or if I'm hanging out with We didn't we master peel with juvenile or whatever when I'm with juvenile We talking about me being at Harvard University and me teaching at Harvard and and what I got going on and it's like I don't mind I just don't mind being myself at this point, you know, that's tell me about, um, how did you get the opportunity to be Working at Harvard. Yeah, so I got a fellowship and the fellowship Is what allowed me to get up there the fellowship Was something where it's a it's a blend of hip hop and education, right? And I have some really interesting research that I'm doing on the role that hip hop plays as a teaching tool in the black community So me going up there to Harvard. I wasn't supposed to be Teaching classes and would not at first. I was supposed to be up there doing research So once they found out who I was at Harvard do they were like, oh, he wanted them ones Like this this dude was special like we want him to teach over here come teach you my body Joe and I kind of did I kind of did so uh I will be going back to Harvard and and doing another year of my fellowship this year But also in addition to that I'm going to be a professor this year at Tufts University Which is in Boston, Massachusetts And I'll be teaching a course that I'm designing this summer on hip hop and the role hip hop plays as an agent for social change because um I think it was DJ. What's what's his number one? Okay He also teaches where hip hop is concerned. I can't remember the university he teaches at But he teaches about hip hop in his school And yeah, and so not all schools teach this right? No No See and that's the thing because I think they weren't teaching it as well And he went ahead and went up there and pitched the idea and they loved it And that's how he ended up getting in there. Wow But it's an awesome because a lot of kids are that's what all these kids are listening to and if you can And another part that he was trying because I was like how many females do you have in those classes? Okay And he was like not many. Okay. So in your class, how many females did you have? uh It was like 50 50. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. These uh, these women nowadays I mean women run hip hop nowadays nowadays. You don't think so. Yeah, but he didn't have that for some reason I don't know. Okay. It could be the school. You know, I ain't no ugly dude either. You know, I mean, so They probably be like, dang, this is my teacher. I'm just playing. I ain't trying to say here. I'm just joking but yo hip hop Is really starting to break into Like academia like my man lupin fiasco. He's at mit. He's teaching at mit I know bun b was at rice university for a while. Shout out to bun There's multiple people like you said burn one is doing his thing. So I'm at tough university and at Harvard This is where hip hop should be going because now it allows people to see that There's a lot of thought that goes into The role hip hop is playing like in in real life and there's a lot of thought that goes into Making a marketing plan making an image for yourself as a brand. There's a lot of thought that goes into The business side. There's a lot of thought that goes into the creation of rap music. So when you're teaching Hip hop you teach all of everything. No Tell me about your course. Yeah, I get as specific as possible. So Hip hop has been at the forefront of a bunch of social movements. We've heard rap songs about everything from police brutality to feminism to lgbtq rap To black power movement We've heard we've heard hip hop be the soundtrack to a lot of these movements protest rap You know all this type of stuff with that being said my course is showing the role The hip hop has played in helping to bring about social change, you know, I mean Because rap music has been at the forefront of that for a while. So that's what i'm doing and um I'm still designing the course. Uh, I got I got to the to the end of the summer to fully finish designing it But it's gonna be all it's gonna be amazing. So harvard just embracing you up there. Yeah, they're loving me You know, you know why because I'm not trying to fit in, you know I'm I'm being myself and I'm bringing something unique and authentic to that campus They like man that New Orleans swag and just that that boldness like this I didn't got any arguments with people on harvard's campus, bro Because i'm going up there as a christian as a man of god who really from that south who really spit fire You know, I mean lyrically and who really know his stuff academically Sometimes that'll rub people the wrong way. I tell people I got into an argument with Some people at harvard one day some of my peers and I told him I said Before i'm pro black i'm pro god So some of the excuses that we make For some of our behavior in the black community and we say and we don't want to criticize it because it's like Oh, we black people don't we post a champion each other like no With god champion is that's what I care about more I'm always going to be for what god has said before is this a good look for black people And sometime they don't like that. I got into a big argument on harvard's campus about that, you know I I I get it man. I like I said you powerful brother And it's a lot of things that god building you up for you know, I I definitely wanted you to go on all the I wanted you to go on that windy william show they needed you. Yeah, i'm that guy. I'm just i'm telling you i'm different Now you know what I did do. I don't know if you knew this I probably didn't instead of no, it's funny. You said windy williams I could have went on windy williams show but I went on the the real you did you know that one So I had to I had to make a choice There was like look we both want you you could only choose one It's almost like a nine compete you come on here. You can't go on there So I felt like the real I would have chose the real the real. Yeah, like it was it was they were younger They kind of had like a cooler just vibe, you know, uh, so I went on the real Yeah, man, it was easier. Yeah, it was it was easier too Because y'all know what windy finna yes, that's the whole game for me Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's gonna be messy and full of gossip if you're going with what's in you Yeah, that's true. What's if if I don't went on windy. It would be in some trend out of fool around Windy mighta windy mighta Change the pace a little bit change her whole vibe. That's where I'm at. I'm telling you see where I'm at So it ain't always about taking the easy roll sometimes. Yeah Yeah, okay. She said drink some see how I'm under scrutiny over here. I see that. No, that's not screwed. That's love, bro Thank you. I wish I had somebody telling me a d your voice sounded a little scratchy my brother. Go ahead. All day That'll be cut out Boss talk got me in here double cupped up Drinking lean So no, but I think just the things I keep saying is just just moments where I feel like, you know You can help people and in certain instances where it may have seemed like let me go back this way next time Go against it because those are the vulnerable moments where growth happens. Tell me this um Is it worth is it worth Going against the grain if you know that financially you're gonna you're gonna take a hit because of it Some people think that When you think of uh, you know, basically godliness, you know Having things is it's on earth is it's big. Don't get me wrong. Some people contend that that that You know things is something that's confusing You know, I mean you you've you've taken a lot of moves because but things you already alluded to the fact of where they come from Sometimes they don't always come from god You see what I'm saying? So these are tools and places where the devil plays game because he's the master and power of the Principality of the air in the world So you just got to be careful when you look at it from that perspective because The spiritual and may not look as enticing when it comes to monetarily gain But in the end it's going to be the best choice for you. So, you know, that's why That's why like When I signed my record deal, you know, I ended up signing with rca records Right a few years ago when I signed my record deal, you know, you get a pretty nice check you get an advanced check and The first thing everybody was asking me like what kind of car you're gonna buy? That's what everybody wanted. What kind of car you're gonna buy? And at the time I was driving my my car from college I had a 1998 Honda Accord and I thought about it and I said, you know what? I'm gonna keep this car not because I need it and I can't afford something else But as a symbol to show people that you could be winning in life But your wins don't have to look like jewelry and cars. I say I'm gonna get out of debt So I paid my student loans off when I signed my deal, you know, and Now that I look back Years later after doing that. I love That I could say man. I got the same success as a lot of these people But y'all just looking at The wealth that I'm showing y'all not knowing the real estate investments that I got Y'all not knowing the stock investments that I got, you know what I'm saying? Y'all not knowing the private Investments that I have y'all not knowing the residual passive income that I've been able to generate through being a rapper You know, I mean all this came from rapping, you know, I mean and That's the part where I want people to say hey If you could walk around and not have ops and not have to walk around and worry about having a security guard Look over your shoulders. Yeah Live with that paranoia and if you could still be Successful and still be out here winning. I want that idea of success. That's what I want people to look at and say Yeah, give me that all day. You you know when you asked me about, you know back Years ago 10 12 maybe 15 years ago when you would see the prosperity gospel You would see people people would look at people because they had a big car That big house the big church and they would look up to these ministers, man The big boys, you know, we got them here in the city from tdj's to we got uh, I bought Ricky rush we got all type of big ministers here Joel Osteen and all these different ministers But when you when you start to think about it, you know, there's a scripture that talks about Some people thinking that gain is godliness But but but godliness with contentment is great game You see what I'm saying? So you gotta look at it from a different eye scope You can't just look look at it just in a way to where this here may be the best decision to get me here You got to look at it from that piece that you get from god And those a lot of time that come from having these different situations happen where you end those Maybe irritable situation for the flesh, but in the spirit you're winning You know what I'm saying? Yeah That's the game Man, bro, that's and that's what we need people to hear what you said just now It's like it's like I'm a basketball fan. So it's almost like we're saying hey We've been looking at this scoreboard all game. We're looking at that scoreboard right there That's keeping score on who winning what we trying to give people to do Is to start looking at life by looking at a whole different type of scoreboard, you know That godly game is a whole different type of scoreboard and over here This this scoreboard is gonna say how many cards you got, you know, what size are you rims? What kind of jewelry you got like like just the same old stuff that we always hear that's that's what this is You know, I mean designer with designer brands you wearing, you know, I'm saying like that godly scoreboard hit way different I'll tell you one thing that scoreboard over there It's not gonna have you with anxiety like this one will sit in that thing and like dang I ain't got enough followers or dang I'm looking at everybody on instagram and they life's so lit and okay. That's the new brand everybody wearing d or Okay, cool. I gotta go get some d or to get put up points on that scoreboard This scoreboard gonna be like Man, you could wear that dingy white t-shirt that's in your closet You know I'm saying that you that you wear three days a week. Anyway, you could wear that I ain't tripping you can fool around you don't have to ever become a multi-millionaire or even a millionaire On this scoreboard and you still could be good in my book. You know, I mean you ain't gotta be lit on the ground You ain't gotta be verified. You ain't gotta pay for your blue check You ain't gotta do none of that over here. You ain't even got to have instagram and you can still be putting up Major numbers on my scoreboard. That's real man. Thank you so much, man I like to say that cash money move man I I always think about different things that you like to you very impactful And you're gonna you're gonna do a lot of more more things than you've done just yet so far I mean talking to bird man. I talked to bird man on the phone. He's not the same bird man I just talked to another day for real. Yeah, but he's not the same bird man When he was young, you know, he's a different bird man as you evolve everybody evolving man Really? So this is the whole game like where are we gonna be? How we gonna how we gonna respond to these opportunities we get and injecting god into these situations, bro Man, would you talk to bird man about man? I talked to a lot of people. That's gd. You know gd Is he the spokesman or not? Oh, that's my oh, that's my dog. Okay. So if he the spokesman then you know what it is Like we working we working Make sure that we do the right thing for our culture and for the south, you know, I'm a big south advocate So basically it's a lot of times that we we we being pushed information down upon us We need to be pushing information from bottom to the top And so we can see it from a clear scope where it can be seen properly Because we got something down here and a lot of time is diluted you never hear about the albums and The the albums where you can listen to them straight through we never mentioned in the top five We got to change that scenario. I'm about to put my 10th album out in august 10th album of my career is called uno So that's why people call me uno. That's my nickname But the album uno is an acronym for underdogs and outcast UNO underdogs and outcast because that's what i'm doing this album for bro It's for all the underdogs out there all the people that's like man the world sleeping on me I'm david you heard me and I see this big light and everybody's sleeping on me and all the outcasts all the people That's like man. I just can't seem to fit in man. Everybody thinking that I'm different. I'm different. Yeah. Yeah, exactly embrace that embrace being different. So uno coming out august 18th That's gonna be my 10th album, bro. I need to interview big chris. So you need to set that up I've been I've been wanting to interview this guy, but I don't he you can't get hold them online I don't have no well look kiki. I didn't talk to him yet because what happened with big pokey But and r.r.p. The big pokey, but It's different. I talked to me and kiki talk a lot. So i'm trying to figure out how to get him But you talk to him too. So yeah, make sure you holler at him for me cause yeah I'm definitely trying to rock out with that guy word. Yeah, I'll be trying to talk to all of them for real Yeah, because i'm on your mission. Yeah, you understand. Hey, just know crit crit one of us, bro Oh, yeah crit one of us bro. I find out Crit one of us bro like he is he is his heart all the way in the right place, bro um You know man, everybody got their own path, bro Everybody got their own path and everybody what how can you tell a struggling christian from a hypocrite? Oh, man, I don't I don't I don't know I don't know Maybe maybe maybe it's not for us to be able to tell that's all that's between them and god That's now we might not be able to tell but if we observe it Then we should do what we call it as christians to do according to the word of god Which is we shouldn't be afraid to Approach those people and try to hold them accountable or or lead with love in terms of like confronting what they got going on But it's not our place to Judge them, you know, uh In a negative manner automatically and jump to conclusions But it's also not our job to turn a blind eye to it No, that's so these brothers that's claiming to be christians Especially in the rap game or claiming to be men of god or they want to hold the trophy up A lot of thank god for this award. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, I'm coming see you, man I gotta talk to you right quick man because you say god's name. You know what I mean? Like I gotta I gotta come see about that Like and if I can't get in touch with you personally like I can get in touch with a lot of y'all now Then that's when I make a song like j-fifteen wheezy. Yeah, but you know, it's you know If they don't say giving out god or lord and savior jesus christ It's a different world because you never know what god they talking about what god they talking about a lot of I don't think that they god bro. Did you hear what I just said? I feel you might walk up on a situation where it's not even we assume that it's Man, I even be talking about that a lot of time So I you just got to look at it from a different scope when you dealing with it You got to be led a spirit to talk to these people to talk to them. That's that's good. That's a whole game That's good game man. Um, so how can people get a hold of you if they trying to link up with you? Yeah, so if y'all watching this on youtube right now, definitely, uh, hit my youtube channel man I got a great youtube channel. We I think we had almost a hundred fifty thousand subscribers I want to keep them running up. You know, I got the youtube plaque I did too. That's all right. I feel good when people don't show it. They ain't got it So subscribe to the youtube page d1 music de the number one music My instagram been jumping. I got about a hundred thousand new instagram fans in like the last two months, bro Like I got some songs that's been going crazy and some interview clips instagram same thing d1 music de the number one music Same thing for tiktok same thing for What they got threads now Twitter i'm a d1 music on everything and most importantly y'all two things If you want some merch some mission vision merch, that's my clothing line. Yeah be real be righteous be relevant You want some hoodies some sweatpants some t-shirts some socks all that go to mission vision lifestyle dot com Make sure y'all go get that merch so you could be a walking billboard for this movement. You heard me and secondly and lastly, um Make sure that you go stream my actual music because it's one thing to hear this and be like man That dude real that dude's smart man. I like what he man him and boss talk They did that go listen to the music though because the music is where you're gonna learn my life story The music is where you're gonna be like man d1 speaking into my heart right now this song this album helped me Man, I got a lot of music out there on all streaming platforms. It's just d1 Dash the number one tapping the songs I picked out was jason jeter. Okay walking revolution. Okay j15 weezie and david and goliath was the project I looked at word So I'm just rocking with you man. Just appreciate you for the whole movement and the whole music man It's hard hard. That's love. Tell me your top three artists of all time dead or alive any genre any genre any genre Oh my gosh Number one number one number one For this I gotta go with I gotta go with nice Nice nice. Yep. Yep I've been listening to nauseous music almost my whole life If somebody held my attention that long that's saying something about them. So nausea be number one number two number two Just for the sake of The movement that this brother has been at the forefront of by molly And number three I'm gonna go with The one and only Tupac Shakur Yeah, yeah, like we still talking about that brother almost 30 years after his death man You know now notice everybody that I named It ain't just music with them. It's a movement. You know by molly. It's a movement Tupac. It's a movement Niz is a movement niz Niz made it okay To not be a gangster that's just all the way just jumping out there Busting the guns and all that type of stuff Niz made it okay to be an intellectual dude that was still from the streets Like yeah, I'm from the streets and all that but I ain't with all that You know what I mean? Like I'm the I'm the I'm the philosophy type dude I'm the I'm the dude that's sophisticated like sophisticated But from the streets and I think niz gave birth to a whole generation of people Who he gave permission to be like a j Cole or Kendrick Lamar a d1. You know what I mean? So I like d1. Yes the one right there one last question I have for you and um, what do you say to people Who say that you do gospel rap? A christian rap or chris christian rap. I say have you listened to my music? That's the first thing I ask them And 99% of the time they say I mean No Okay, so you ain't listen to the music because if you listen to the music Whatever you call my music whatever type of rap you say it is i'm okay with that However, it speaks to you if you listen to my music and if it make you be like Yeah, like this is what I would classify as christian rap. Then that's perfectly fine But if you listen to the music and you like nah, this is Conscious rap or this is just rap. This is just southern rap. They just got a message in it But this is just life music. You know what I mean? Then that's how you feel It's not my job to tell you How to classify my music. It's your job to classify it But first you got to listen to it most of the people who say oh here christian rap Oh here gospel with my man. Oh here. Here guys. Where is here? Most of them having listened to the music. They just do a quick google search, you know and even that the people in google Or whoever might put oh, he's a christian rapper. It's like that ain't even people that have listened to the music That's people that's like man. This may be talking about god a lot You know, I mean that mean he'll hear christian rap. I heard him say jesus in the song I mean here christian rap I feel you're all the way because a lot of people because I speak on guys word all the time They always say you mean you appreciate your pastor and but I'm not I'm I don't drink smoke or do none of that But still it don't make me a pastor. I just teach the word. I like to tell people about god Why you got to put it in a box? No, no, no, no, let's answer that. Hold on. Hold on. We got to keep this going for a moment You just asked the realest question why you got to put it into a box I think the reason why they got to put it into a box is because once they box it in They could put a top on their box and and those that's like kind of intimidated by what you're doing And and they don't want to feel convicted because they don't not everybody could have that street edge And had the ability to talk to bird man one day But then be preaching the word the next second and so some people they want to try to box it in So that they could go it on and just push it to the side and try to ignore it. That's the thing with me You're not gonna ignore D one because I'm gonna be in the church on sunday out here in Dallas preaching and Performing for the youth at a big old church in Dallas. I'm gonna be talking on FaceTime with codec black two days before that I'm gonna be at boss talk doing the interview here I'm gonna be with gdp when I go back to the city. You hear me? I'm gonna be in Atlanta Talking about relationships on the podcast that I'm gonna be at Harvard teaching. I'm gonna be a tough university teaching I'm gonna be doing all that. I'm gonna be on I'm be going viral when my album dropped and and on on instagram lit And yeah, I'm all that you can't box me in that's the thing. They want to box people like us in bro They want to box us in bro. That's hard. It ain't gonna have man. Check it man Hey, man, listen man, make sure y'all like and subscribe to boss talk one on one man Go follow that boy D one with the hardest music and in the south, you know, I'm gonna say the south It goes up like that Check it man. It's been another great segment of boss talk one on one where the bosses talk and we out