 Like to call the 9th regular meeting of the 2017-2018 Shabuigan Common Council to order Vote for the day Thank You mayor A leader is someone who believes in you and gets you to believe in yourself Thank you very much with a clerk. Please call the roll. There are 15. I'm sorry 15 present right now Thank you very much. Alderperson so it's a valiglio. Wow is excused Next we move on to the Pledge of Allegiance. Please stand and join me Next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes from our last meeting on July 17th Alderperson Wolff. Thank You mayor. I make a motion to approve second. Thank you for that motion in support Is there any discussion on those minutes? Seeing none all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye opposed Next item will move on to public forum And I just like to remind people that there's no signs that are allowed in the chambers and no applause or cheers of approval Or disapproval is allowed turn it over to the city clerk. Thank you mayor First on the list we have Mary Matiska Mary are you here? Hope I pronounced your name right to our alderman that are online. Would you please mute your phones? And Mary, can I have your address, please? It's a 507 Michigan Avenue. Sheboy, Wisconsin. Okay, and you will have five minutes Okay, thank you. I am proud to call Sheboy in my hometown because I grew up here Then in 1997 I moved to Charlotte, North Carolina Three years ago my husband and I decided to relocate and raise our young family here My husband who isn't from here had very little knowledge of Sheboygan Except for that it has great schools a beautiful lakefront and that Kohler has amazing golf courses Being away for so long. I was thrilled for my children Knowing that they were going to have a great childhood just like mine The devotion and the pride that the residents of Sheboygan have is incomparable reaffirming that we've made the decision the great decision to return after doing my own research and a Lot of reflection. I have decided to take a stand for the Annexation today. I believe in my city and I believe in the ability for its growth It's no secret that Sheboygan was terribly affected by the recession When I returned, I saw that major corporations had closed down downsized Moved moves away which resulted in thousands losing their jobs Some even lost their homes. I Saw that many homes are run down including neighborhoods and buildings This annexation is not just about a golf course and it's not just about Kohler company Or even about land. This is about a city Accepting the invitation to advance and to repair itself so out of curiosity I took two evenings and I went around I Circulated a petition around my neighborhood asking my neighbors and just talking to them about the annexation and on how they feel I Went down Michigan Avenue towards 5th and up towards 8th Street St. Clair Avenue and here on Avenue. I Received about 30 signatures and about two out of three of those were in favor of the annexation Most people in support describe the annexation as an easy decision for our city Many local businesses business owners stated that Kohler golf courses actually help their businesses That the quality of the Kohler amenities is exactly the character our community should strive for A few raised environmental issue as well in which I respect a Big reason why my family and I moved here is because of the beauty of our state parks and is because of the our Lakeshore But I also have confidence in the DNR and Army Corps of Engineers that they will do their job to protect our land That this plan could help eliminate invasive species and create a better environment for wildlife habitat than is at its present state Our this community was over 50,000 in population when I left in 1997 and it's much less than it is than that today When a city continues to lose residents it loses merit property and homes lose their value and local businesses fail Causing quality of life to weaken Members of the city council and she will give residents I urge you to vote for our economic well-being to see the big picture and how this will attract tourism national and international Reputation in addition to providing tax revenues to support improvements within our city and local growth for many years to come I Understand how important it is to keep working towards job creation This proposed annexation will increase Encourage young professionals like myself to want to visit our city and see that it is a great place to live and work This might not be a silver bullet, but it may just be the bold investment that our city needs to move forward Most of my neighbors in district 4 and I certainly feel this way Thank you for your time. Thank you, Mary Next on the list is dain check lenski. That's my thank you Dain, can I have your home address, please? 3217 West Apache All right, and you will have five minutes Thank you. I wanted to start out by thanking each older person for your service to our community as a resident of the city Thank you Tonight I'm speaking on behalf of the Sheboygan County Economic Development Corporation in support of the proposed development The SEDC is a nonprofit with a board representation from over 40 business and community leaders from around the county The SEDC has taken supportive stances on several investments in the county in the past few years We will not break face today with our core belief that investment in Sheboygan County's infrastructure and economy is crucial to our community's well-being Without new continued and diverse job and economic opportunities for both residents and businesses alike Communities are certain to erode I would like to thank everyone involved and urge the older persons of this communities to support the proposed development. Thank you Thank you, Dain Next on the list is downham and and done. Can you give me your home address, please? Seriously, seriously, I don't remember it 1928 Tivoli Lane Sheboygan Okay, and you will have five minutes sir. It's kind of a familiar spot Good evening to all and thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts with you on the proposed annexation When I left the council last year, I shared some thoughts that are relevant as you decide on the proposed annexation I Suggested in my final words as this body's president that the city has momentum Great things are happening and this body should stay focused on continued growth in economic development That's it that said the city now has an incredible and likely one-time opportunity to expand its borders for future growth It is argued that if the annexation happens, it would essentially it is essentially a rubber stamp for the proposed golf course I would disagree There are many approvals that must happen before this project would be approved to include the DNR Army Corps and of course the city of Sheboygan itself This is far from a rubber stamp But if the proposed course is approved the economic impact would be tremendous one might say That all these forecasts and projections that have no bearing in reality are inflated just to get this approved Fortunately, we have the experience of three PGA championships and LPGA women's open and most recently the US open at Aaron Hills To demonstrate its impact is tangible and real I'm not advocating for the golf course without its due process However to nix this opportunity for annexation because of the proposed golf course seems short-sighted Some have questioned the process of forcing in those who may not want to annex I understand that some may not be happy with being annexed into the city. I Ask what about those that do? Those town residents who would like to get the benefits of city water instead of wells police fire EMS and the other services that the city provides Additionally this annexation allows us to connect already city-owned property in the town for future development purposes Some may not decide to support this annexation because their thoughts about mr. Kohler or the Kohler company again. I ask you to put your personal differences aside and And discernment and focus on what's in the best interest of the city of Sheboygan This annexation helps to ensure the city has ample opportunity for for future residential and commercial growth As I indicated opportunities to a next 500 acres don't come by very often In fact the last annexation of this size in Sheboygan occurred in 1959 70 almost 70 years ago In my opinion, it would be a shame to see yet another tremendous opportunity Foolishly and unnecessarily pass us by because of our feelings about a person or a company It's bigger than that. I urge you to focus on the big picture and what makes our city stronger As an older person I Sat where you sit during some very difficult decisions fact Todd sitting in my chair right now From the budget discussions to the field of dreams debate I understand the dynamics of making these decisions and the emotions that these debates can conjure However, when looking at the big picture and what's in the best interest of the city and those that you represent The benefits to the city of this annexation are clear increased tax revenue increased opportunity for future economic development and if the proposed golf course is approved over 200 new jobs and more than 20 million dollars of being of economic impact Additionally the boost for Sheboygan's reputation as a tourism destination Can only help attract more people to visit our city with their wall along with their wallets and Enhance our image as a great place to live and work Thank you for your time, and I vote you I encourage you to vote for the annexation. Thank you. Thank you All right, next on the list is James Schusler James. Are you here? And James, can I have your home address, please two two two six north six Street Sheboygan Hi, my name is James Matthew Schusler, and I'm proud resident of the city of Sheboygan and a board member of the Sheboygan JCs In fact, they represent the seventh generation of my family in America My family moved to the town of Wilson from Germany 170 years ago before Wisconsin was even a state. I Considered myself to be an environmentally oriented person. In fact for over two years I had been in full employment for Gander Mountain helping people connect with the outdoors in Sheboygan County we had incredible public spaces from the Kettles to Dillon Park No one should have the right. However to try to turn someone's personal land into a park Especially when the land owner has the means and the right to develop their property For example, whistling straights is amazing, isn't it? And it is open to the public last month. I lost my job at Gander Mountain But I'm doing all right return to college full-time completing my degree if the opportunity exists for marketing oriented guy like me I will secure employment locally through local jobs I've read a lot about the proposed golf course. It amazes me that some people are disparaging someone that creates so many jobs in Sheboygan County We should be thanking the Kohler company I also know that the DNR and the Army Corps of Engineers will not allow the plan to go forward without their approval We have a chance to vote for job creation. We have a chance to vote for Sheboygan. Thank you Last on the list would be Rose Phillips is Rose here Hi Rose, you want to come up? And Rose can you give me your home address, please? Yes, 1628 Spruce Court Sheboygan, okay, and you'll have five minutes. I Want to thank the council for taking a little extra time to research and process these complex issues that are before us I speak to you this evening as an 11-year resident of this city a homeowner a small business owner and a mother of three daughters I am grateful for this opportunity to speak with you tonight. I Also feel a very great responsibility to speak on behalf of many others who wish to speak tonight, but cannot Find myself in a position very similar to yours. I Have spent a great amount of time researching this proposal and its related issues Council members and the mayor have shared with me a sincere love and concern for our city Our common goal of growing Sheboygan and its economy unite us We should also agree upon ethics, especially regarding the influence of large corporations on our governing bodies Our local government is the base of our democracy and in the sanitation process We see a reflection of larger trends that are happening in our nation a complex interplay between two visions One decided by the will of the people through our elected officials and the other decided by the influence of wealth Here in Sheboygan County an individual with excessive wealth and influence has fast-tracked a process that would have been insurmountable for say a small business owner like myself The Kohler company employs 6,000 people in Sheboygan County and he generously donates to education health and the arts Thus creating a great sphere of influence In fact four of our council members are employed directly or indirectly by the Kohler company Many Kohler employees along with a multitude of local officials and nonprofit leaders do not feel comfortable Speaking openly about this proposal for fear of potential consequences This is a source of ethical concern How much influence does this company have and how much influence should one corporation have? Many strongly disagree with aspects and ethics of this project Namely the incomplete environmental assessments and permit applications Kohlers buying of houses and placing supportive tenants in them the usage of a shadow company to purchase a home from an unsuspecting seller The circumventing of local municipalities jurisdiction over developments that impact their constituents and The recent revision of our local state parks master plan allowing for the destruction of our natural resources and our publicly owned state park land All of this for a single corporation's private profit under the guise of strengthening Sheboygan's economy Despite an outpouring of concerns from thousands of residents of the city county and state Regarding the questionable processes this proposal surprisingly still on the table To distract us from the serious ethical violations Kohler has resorted to a financial seduction campaign This campaign encourages city officials to market the contrived annexation route to their constituents as not only being in the cities And the public's best interest but also as if it is so generous that we should accept it without question The attractive economic growth lure so eloquently pitched by Kohler the Kohler firm is nothing more than a well-constructed facade We are hearing different numbers of jobs of tax revenue of financial responsibilities Proponents of this project Interestingly claim that adding a fifth golf course to this area will entice tourists heading north on I-43 to stop in Sheboygan But truthfully most commuters travel north to enjoy the vast natural spaces and go camping Not golfing Kohler Andre State Park already attracts over 400,000 visitors every year Are we really willing to sacrifice the known economic benefits from one of the most visited parks in our state for unknown and unsubstantiated claims? There are better safer more sustainable ways to strengthen and grow our city that would uphold Sheboygan's practice of ethical governing I hope that we will work with the Kohler company to further this tradition To those who vote yes Want to thank you for reminding us to be vigilant in local politics We will stay engaged to ensure that ethics and accountability in our hometown are reflected in our local representatives To those council members who vote no to this annexation on behalf of the citizens of this community in all its future generations including my daughters I Thank you Your strong leadership for sustainable development and ethical governing principles sends a message of a Sheboygan that we can all be proud of I hope that the council members consider all the personal contacts emails and phone calls that they have received as a healthy sign of a vibrant and strong local democracy This is how our nation was designed to function We should take pride in the fact that our residents are paying attention and they care We are all watching to see what kind of example Yes, I'm almost done may I have permission to finish? Good quick. Thank you We are all watching to see what kind of example Sheboygan city government will set who is in power here the people and our elected officials Or one wealthy corporation I urge you to maintain ethical local governing and protect your taxpayers by voting no to this proposal tonight Thank you. Thank you, Rose. Okay, next we'll go on to a program the 2017 strategic plan action items and critical measures by city administrator Darrell Hoffman Thank You mayor van der steen in January of this year this common council approved a 2017-2021 strategic plan it is available on the city's website. It contains It contains Many action items and critical measures Hopefully the PowerPoint is up great There are six focus areas quality of life infrastructure and public facilities economic development neighborhood revitalization Governing and fiscal management and last but not least communication Quarterly, I provide you with an update. This is my second update since the strategic plan was approved Staff will be providing the respective committee commissions and boards with other benchmark updates Scheduled for this month August as well as as well as September again for the first half of the year I like to quickly go through some of the highlights of these focus areas specifically concentrating on sort of two categories one is action items the strategic plan has a two-year 2017-2018 list of action items as well as critical measures As many of you know what gets measured gets results And so it's important for city staff to benchmark and quantify success in achieving Progress for these focus areas first is quality of life again. I'll just hit on a couple of the items in each category And again, hopefully our village by our city clerk can can keep track as we proceed first is quality of life Action items the city actually has three different Actions of bench-friendly community coordinate with spoig and county on the south side utility corridor bike path and Obtained right away from the railroad to incorporate a bike path along Indiana Avenue. We made progress in all three areas Critical measures under quality of life is measuring our first EMS arrival time I'm pleased to announce that 90% is our benchmark that 90% of time the EMS unit will arrive in 240 seconds or less The first half of this year We're at 88% so very close to making that benchmark We also measure the first fire unit to to arrive on scene 300 seconds or less our goal is 90% of the time. We're at 74% so we're not quite there other things we Quantify is part one crime rate violent crimes per thousand population as well as property crimes per thousand by One per thousand population Pleased to report and I know the police chief will be discussing with the public service public safety committee Next week that property crimes is down 20% first half of this year compared to last year first half 2016 and again well below our our goal or our benchmark for that category Other quality of life critical measures is the city's walk store 80 80 points out of a hundred is our benchmark and in fact we are at 80 Second second focus area is infrastructure and public facilities again I'll hit on just a couple dedicate funding for the emerald ash borer program 1200 ash trees were were in fact treated earlier this spring far exceeding our goal Repainting railings along the riverfront 95% complete install new river docks at South Pier 100% complete Working with the federal government on refurbishing South 8th Street Bridge Preconstruction meeting is going to occur this month and construction or rehab will start so Approximately end of September 1st part of October Critical measures in infrastructure and public facilities include the number of street trees planted 82 trees were planted this spring And additional 400 are expected this fall, so we will be close to meeting our 500 tree benchmark pavement rating the rating process occurs in early winter last year or 2015 5.93 was the rating again the higher the number the better We hopefully will be at over six or six point two fives is a specific target Action items under economic development is construct the arts culture plaza assemble redevelopment sites for in key areas the city council has been working on Indiana Avenue coordinate with consultants on a new business part project In fact you as a common council have approved that contract and later on the agenda you'll be discussing offers to purchase To begin the process of acquiring property Critical measures is the amount of room tax generated 550,000 is our benchmark for 2017 year-to-date where at 66% or 364,000 and change Other critical measures is the value of property in our TIF districts. These are redevelopment areas 100 120 million is our benchmark approximately We just received information from the state last week that we're at a hundred twenty six percent hundred twenty six million So we're at a hundred six percent of our benchmark change in property valuation again pleased to report that the city Equalized value increased by seven percent This past year Our benchmark was under four percent Our last year we had only two percent so a significant increase in again equalized valuation in the community new construction as well as Appreciation of existing properties our net new construction This path this last year was 94 million. This is equivalent to four years of prior Economic development so in one year 94 million More than four years of the previous years Neighborhood revalidization action items include Implementing a new north side neighborhood beat officer that officer was assigned To his new position on January 15 Other critical measures are new neighborhood associations Benchmark is to in fact to have been created a Number of code enforcement orders issued a thousand was the benchmark year-to-date where five seventy So our court and court enforcement officers are are active both on the north and south side Governing and fiscal management is the fifth Actionite is a fifth focus area for action items is to submit our budget as well as our financial audit to the government Office's association this in essence is an indication for staff as well as our citizens that our standards are high and that we are Searching to continue to make improvements. We hope to hear on both submittals in the next month Our transportation development program The city has contracted with a planning agency and work will begin as early as this month for critical measures Percent of unspent general fund budget for 2017 a year date. We're at seven percent our benchmark is three point seven Moody's investors service bond rating the city received confirmation in April associated with our 2017 borrowing that our AA to bond rating was reaffirmed Last focus area is communication Couple action items is to conduct a community Conduct a citizen survey this occurred last month I will be giving the results to you at your next community the whole which will be in a couple weeks Create a citizen engagement plan. This was approved by the count by you the common council on May of 2017 critical measures number of followers This is basically social media related number of followers on on all city department Twitter accounts Our goal was roughly 6,800 year-to-date. We're at 7,300 number of users on next door Benchmarks 2,400 we're at 3,200 and number of nexal contacts benchmark was 1,400 we're at over 1,500 again year-to-date As I mentioned these these and other benchmarks will be reported to the respective committee commissions and boards They will be posted on the city's website So I hope that if you have an interest Please follow along if there's individual questions of feel free To give me a call or an email again the report that I've distributed you to you tonight will be posted on the city's Website as well. Thank you for your time Thank you very much for that report next and we'll go on to a mayor's announcements We had a Dedication ceremony held for the Founders Club. That's an invest That's a project that we invested a tiff increment and a development loan in and at that rededication The Schmidt brothers on behalf of their company shared a little tribute that he to all of you and so you all have a Glass on your desks to take home as a remembrance of that Next I'd just like to make a few comments about the proposed annexation. We'll be voting on tonight Tonight we plan to vote on the annexation petition that was presented by the Kohler company This will be the third time and this matter is brought up on our agenda for action Some have said that the city was moving too fast in making the decision on this proposed annexation And this delay has allowed for ample time for all to research and study this question My decision to recommend the approval of the annexation with the suburban residential zoning is not changed since the Planning Commission meeting considered this matter this annexation was not pursued by the city but was brought forward by the The Kohler company the company wanted to connect the city water to support the future development of their land That was included in the annexation This annexation is important to the city of Sheboygan for it to thrive and be successful The amenities that the city of Sheboygan provides for its citizens are also enjoyed by the municipalities that surround Sheboygan But it's the tax base of the city that pays for these facilities While town residents enjoy the convenience of a city without having to pay for the overall costs I believe that this annexation needs to be approved to see a strong city of Sheboygan in the future Several decades ago the town of Sheboygan needed an easement from the city to complete their water distribution system That is now in place the city council approved this even over the warnings of City planner Frank Paquette This decision allowed the town of Sheboygan to complete its water distribution system in stymie future annexations to the city of Sheboygan This action in the long run has prevented the city from growing to the north and the west The decision that the city council makes on this annexation will define the future of the city of Sheboygan This annexation if approved tonight It's set to sage for many adjacent properties to consider annexing and connecting to city water and grow Sheboygan's tax base This annexation is not about a golf course or being a good neighbor This decision is really about the future of Sheboygan decades now when our city leaders look back at this decision that we're making today I want them to have a strong and prosperous Sheboygan I hope that you agree with me that we need to make the decision tonight That will be best for the city of Sheboygan and approve this annexation Next move on to documents pertaining to the annexation and zoning and zoning item 2.1 is our own number 113 of 1718 by the city clerk submitting a communication from Debbie Desmillan stating that golf courses are Closing nationwide and have meant for the past decade because of younger generations lack of interest older person wolf Thank You mayor. I'd like to make a make a motion to take 2.1 through 2.7 as one Second Thank you for that motion to accept and file items 2.1 through 2.7. Is there any discussion on that? Are any of those items? Seen on all those in favor of accepting and filing please signify by saying aye. I opposed Motion passes Next we'll move on to 2.8 RC number 72 of 1718 by the finance personnel committee to whom was referred RC number of 1718 by the finance and personnel committee and resolution number 28 of 1718 by Alderperson Donahue and boron authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute the pre annexation and Development agreement and recommends passing the resolution along with the current amended agreement as of 712 of 17 Alderperson Donahue Thank You mayor. I Move to pass the resolution second Thank You for that motion in support under discussion Other person Donahue Thank You mayor the council members I think this pre annexation agreement is certainly a better agreement than it had previously been There's a more fair share of the water installation pipes from the city limits down to the golf course And the Kohler company has agreed to assume a greater portion of that cost We have negotiated Access rights along the lake that are more generous than the public trust doctrine would typically allow Here's my concern. I haven't gotten this many letters from lawyers in really quite a long time I think that our Legal exposure here is significant. I'm going to direct you to the letter from the DOA indicating that That there was that this annexation met the public interest Now the fellow who wrote this obviously has never been in the area as he said that the proposed Annexation more closely resembled the city of the town But nonetheless he calls into question whether or not the balloon on a string whether the string which has been Litigated in both 1964 and 65 Where where this annexation falls? It's it's not an easily resolved question But as far as I can tell it is certainly a litigatable question And I think that those who are opposed to this action will consider that as an opportunity Um, I received a letter from the town of wilson's. I think we all did from the town of wilson's One of their attorneys talking about potential conflicts of interest. Frankly. It was a fairly compelling letter I do respect attorney adam's decision that that Collar employees who are members of this council They don't have a conflict of interest because they have no personal financial interest in it I will accept attorney adam's Decision on that, but again, I think it's a pretty litigatable point There have been a variety of other accusations that have gone back and forth some I think are frivolous some I think With respect to open meetings, although the city I think would surely Would surely prevail in most of those smaller issues nonetheless the cost of getting into the courtroom And litigating these matters is substantial. I just don't think $200,000 is enough I think that what I'm going to propose is an amendment to raise that limit to 500,000 now It may be that we never get anywhere near that and that's good news It's good news for the color company and quite frankly, that's good news for us On the other hand if it does not Play out that way and we have substantial litigation. I can tell you from experience. It was also Discussed at the finance meeting Litigation modern litigation is a very expensive proposal Now we will be getting eventually 89,000 or so dollars a year in property taxes But that's at least three probably four maybe five years down the line as the golf course is built and the assessment is done I'm really concerned about not only They're not being a great financial benefit here But that there could actually be substantial out of pocket detriment to the city and so I know that the color company and its employees are fully committed to moving forward with this and I think that this is a fairly small Difference to the to the pre-annexation agreement that will be agreeable if in fact this annexation and the rezoning It's gets approved tonight So in that regard I move to amend the pre-annexation agreement only to the extent that instead of $200,000 that the city would be reimbursed for It would be $500,000 second We have a motion and a second Is there any discussion on the motion? All the person wolf Thank you, mayor maryland, although I think you've been a instrumental to helping us in in finance I disagree with With your motion. I really think that no matter what we do. There's always an opportunity for litigation That's you know, no pun intended maybe a little bit, but that's how lawyers Make their make their money the issue is anybody can get sued for all kinds of things and We really have done our due diligence and we really need to Move forward on this. Thank you. Thank you for those comments. Is there any other discussion? Seeing none. Will the clerk please call the roll? Yes Yes Seven eyes nine nose Motion or rather the amendment is defeated. We're back on the main motion Is there any other discussion on the main motion? Seeing none. Will the clerk please call the roll for passage 11 eyes five nose Motion passes Item 2.9 and general ordinance number six of 1718 by all the person born in sorenson Annexing the territory to the city of sheboygan all the person born Thank you, mayor. I'll make a motion to pass the ordinance Second. Thank you for the motion and the second the ordinance is before you right now. Is there any discussion on the motion? All the person lee windowsky I would like to read something We are about to vote on what could be a good thing for sheboygan Or one of the biggest disasters in the history of sheboygan I grew up in the early 70s and two things made me not believe everything that I heard One was various studies that cigarette smoking did not cause cancer We later learned that these studies were done and paid for by the big tobacco companies Now we are supposed to believe that the numbers that coler company gives us in a report Done for a coler company and paid for by a coler company if a study was done I still have not seen or heard where these numbers came from The second thing that was being told about a great idea that would revitalize our downtown It was called plaza eight Those of us who are familiar with or lived here know what a disaster it was Mayor van der steen told me that if I or that I was elected to represent To do What is best for the people of sheboygan not black river? I could also add to that that I was elected to represent the people of sheboygan And not a billionaire from a village west of here at the city A billionaire that thinks he can buy whatever he wants and other people don't matter only what he wants matters We have all been told by all the of all the extra tax money that will come pouring into the city But we will also have more expenses with this annexation We are told about all the jobs at this golf course will create What is not mentioned is that most of these jobs are At most six months out of 12 in case you haven't noticed not many people golf in november December january february march or april So these would be seasonal jobs, which mean part-time with zero benefits Do these so these jobs would not be to type the support of family We have been told all the money that would pour into the city from golf tournaments Yet these golf tournaments are only on average once every five years So it would not be a steady flow of money We are told that golfers will come here to play these courses But how many of them will come back every year and how long would they stay? Maybe one week every few years And three years after the tournament how many people would still come for the first time No business can survive on customers like that and it is a very limited market Also, it would affect the people of sheboygan with two new lawsuits That would cost the people of sheboygan millions of dollars Money that the people would rather see being used for road repair Not many people in sheboygan could afford to play on these golf courses So how does that benefit the people of sheboygan? We are putting the cart before the horse since kohler has not received the needed dnR permits What development will there be if kohler doesn't get to dnR permits? Herb kohler and kohler company have never done anything that benefit the city of sheboygan Unless it benefited kohler company and herb kohler more With the pre-annexation agreement what happens if kohler company doesn't follow it? There is no way for us to enforce it a billionaire with a billion dollar company Will feel that whatever we find him is nothing. It's just the cost of doing business Two good examples of this are buying houses in black river And putting kohler company employees in them in order to get the needed number of signatures on the annexation request forms And hiring a sheboygan alderman to work in a kohler owned realty company after this annexation process was started by kohler Company talked about a conflict of interest as the old saying goes if it sounds too good to be true It probably is now i want to read two letters from two people affected by this But even though it affects them they were not able to speak at the public forum Because the public forum is for residents of sheboygan only But we did allow kohler company representatives to speak Even though kohler company is not in the city and hasn't been since early 1900 The first letter is it seems this should be a no-brainer to support not bulldozing Several acres of our publicly owned state park lands to build parking lots Roads and a maintenance garage to serve the private company Had the expense of the thousands of us that use that property But such is the case when you're dealing with pro development yet at any cost And conservation illiterate people in elected office I see even the sheboygan alderman and women are Repeating lake mimicking parrots Kohler is lined at the state park land They want to develop for private use his land is that is not used by the public Anyway, you think that they were talking about an abandoned dump site or old cornfield Where does one start with anti ecology and anti science mindsets like this The area designated for the new roadway roundabout and the golf courses Massive shop and large parking storage area is actually a very valuable woodland area And soon sand dune ecological area It has native white pine beach oak birch and maple trees Rare dune plants and native woodland shrubs and flowers All would be cut down and leveled to build the Asilities at core wants to build on state land Just because there is no development Such as buildings roads or trails in that area does not mean that is useless or unused park land Wisconsin state parks intentionally leave about 90 percent of all their properties undeveloped for the benefit of both flora And fauna that live there This is addressed in all property master plans as important and pre-planned activities In addition to the trees shrubs and plants mentioned their area is used extensively by deer Fox and other other mammals and it is home to many species of birds that use the area to rest I know for sure that there were great horned owls resting there for many years and probably still are Also the now rare whipper wills Have used the area for nesting as well as many other songbirds and birds of prey There are also several seasonal wetland pockets that are used by wood frogs Spruce salamanders and other amphibians for reproduction each year Canada displaced wildlife just merely moved somewhere else That's what kohler says about the woodland They will be leveling for their golf course But why should they have to be done on valuable protected state park land already set aside as wildlife refuge? As to used by the public bird and wildlife watchers and photographers artists Also use this area for the recreation enjoyment primarily because it is not highly developed Their chance to see undisturbed wildlife and natural ecosystems is much better in these places Hikers also use the area for exercise and just to explore the park area away from busy trails beaches and campgrounds Yes, the most small park shop building is Is there but that's no excuse to town more of the woodland area And sand doing areas for private use and On prevent park visitors from ever using this area again for their recreational enjoyment Undevelopment does not mean unused I guess the other main issue is Prohibition of giving way or leasing publicly owned state park lands into private individuals or profit corporations companies The acquisition of land including this area falls under the federal law com act which prohibits State from giving away state park lands Except in very rare circumstances Where the public good must be served Whatever anyone really consider giving away state park land for golf course Developer to build a private road and private shop parking for Facility of public need There is a justification for this action as it pertains the local law com Funding regulations and enforcement Hope some of this is helpful and it was sent by jim buckwaltz Who was the former superintendent for 38 years of terry andrey state park the second letter i want to read Is it the members of the shabuagan common council Dear common council members the purpose of my communication to you is in regard to this proposed annexation Of 750 acres of public and private property from the town of wilson and the city of shabuagan My name is jim buckwaltz I didn't read this with the other part and I was a town of wilson resident for almost 28 years I served as a park superintendent to have cholera andre state park Retired from the department of natural resources in 2004 After serving the state for 36 years and i'm currently a shabuagan county resident I continue serving the park today Primarily as a volunteer and wisconsin master naturalist trainer So I am still actively interested in the good at this particular park First let me assure you that I am not against the golf courses In general for the cholera companies right to build them I am the company's transformation of the abandoned Airfield in the town of wilson the wilson straits course for the most part Has been a positive asset to the shabuagan area I am against the location of cholera's proposed golf course On their property adjacent to black river residential area and taking of state park property for the town of wilson I urge you to vote no on the proposed annexation for the following reasons The 270 acres of cholera company property located north of cholera andre state park Is in the town of wilson is owned as p1 parks and recreation The company is planning to develop an 18 hole golf course on his property Is not allowed under p1 zoning The sole reason for cholera's desire to have this city of property annex With public private property seems to many citizens to be a fairly disguised attempt to override the town of wilson's Jurisdiction and having the company fulfill their requirement to complete a conditional use permit I believe the town of wilson has been more than fair with cholera in requiring this permit But it appears that cholera staff did not want or could not Justify at the construction and operation of the golf course And I don't have the second letter on me But it was from the family of the 83 year old man in a town of wilson whose property is being forced Into the city as part of the san xation And his 83 years old and has lived on the property his entire life and is totally opposed to it because Forcing him into the city of shabuigan, which he does not want to Be part of That's all I have to say except that I Urge my fellow all the persons to vote against the san xation. Thank you Next will be all the person trester have any Um prepared speech or letters to read to you But I am going to say this because I think We need to be heard Over the last few weeks. I've received 120 phone calls No, I know my counterpart didn't get that many because the people that called me told me They didn't call him 120 people in the last few weeks Called to express their opinions on this We heard The shabuigan county economic development board. We heard from the people of wilson But we haven't heard from the people of shabuigan and I can tell you that of the 120 Phone calls from my constituents. I'm not counting the ones that live in the city Who have all them in other places? 120 people called me and said Do not vote in favor of this annexation And actually six people did call and say I should I also got 20 phone calls from the town of wilson But some of you would say Disregard the people of the town of wilson because they're not your constituents I have spent my entire life Working and listening to people First as a family minister and then as a hospice chaplain And I've got to tell you I took this job as all the men and was elected in this last election as all the person So that I could be the voice Of the people in my district And so tonight I cast their ballot on this annexation And I say No, I will not vote in favor of it because they don't want it And they are not Being represented here And the department of administration says this is in the best interest of the public I would like the names of the public That the department of administration Interviewed to find out really whose interest this really was Because it is in the interest of big money and not the people Thank you Next will be all their person dry Thank you, mayor van der steen. I just had a very quick about actually in hearing the letter it got me thinking about this The acreage can we just have a clarification? I have read that prior. I just want to make sure I have the right number in my head It's not 700 something is it could someone clarify what that actual acreage is There's no objection. I'd like to call steve cassidy up to answer that question from the coaler company Steve please come forward So what was the question again roman? I just want to confirm the actual acreage and also To confirm the amount that is our already coal or own property I've looked at earlier things. I just want to make sure I'm on the same page. Thank you, steve. Yeah, roman. It's not 750 acres I did provide a specific detail in the letter to all older persons I would ask you to refer to that Because it's accurate But your number is in the total range of about 560 acres 250 that coaler company currently owns Thank you Under further discussion older person li windowsky When we vote on this I would like to ask for roll call vote It'll be a Secret vote and we'll get the numbers later the way we always do it Older person donahue First of all, um, I have Some thoughts on this The first thing I want to do is just thank all the people who participated Who've come here who have contacted us who have written us both pro and anti um We somehow think that because there's protest and because people are upset or angry or dismayed or disbelieving That's somehow that's wrong And I will just submit that that is the absolute mark Of a democracy and it's an incredibly important way that we show that our community is vibrant One of the speakers of the public speakers at the last Public forum indicated that people who were opposed to the project were these are just some of the things I wrote down They were selfish intimidating uncontrollable fear mongering And I would just suggest to you that it's exactly the opposite That people who care enough to stand up and talk about what they believe in to contact their elected officials That's what makes the democracy Run and it's a good thing on both sides both pro and anti So I want to think just a Variation on an old t-shirt motto well behave people sell them make history And so I think that we need to keep that in mind and I really appreciate all the input that we've received Two I think we can vote in favor of this proposal while still acknowledging That the loss of these 247 acres is a deep deep deep loss to our world to The things that we treasure to the things that make our lives worthwhile It's this land will be gone There'll be a nice golf course there. I have no doubt Not too many people are going to get there We've negotiated the fact that you could still walk along the waters edge and and and see But we need to acknowledge That it will be gone Again to paraphrase I'm dating myself one of my favorite songwriters. Joni Mitchell. You paid paradise. You put up a parking lot Or a golf course And it's just too bad So for those who will vote yes on this, I think you can vote yes, but acknowledge It's too bad that this gorgeous gorgeous land And its structure are gone forever It's pretty sad But my main objection when I'm starting the microphones are a little bizarre tonight um So I started thinking to myself I know that that townships can't annex property and in In uh cities and such but I I always find that if I put myself in the other person's position Sometimes that helps me kind of figure out what the issues are and I thought what if the town of wilson could just come on in And take memorial hospital land Let's just imagine what that might be like A place that's pretty far away from us can come in and grab the land and take away from us Now they can't do that But that's exactly what we're doing to the town of wilson and and that's really what I'm objecting to I want to reemphasize. I think we all know the coaler company Never submitted a completed application to the town board The town of wilson has had no chance to vote on this It's astonishing to me and I think Cast a a long deep hard shadow over the process that we're going through now Now there are some annexations that are just fine. I know director biebel stood up and now we have two Annexation maps although i'm going to make a request for a zoning map as well because that's even more colorful It is true that we grow by annexations And we have done that over the years Again, you'll note from the department of administration letter. There was very strong encouragement for some cooperation In terms of cleaning up our borders, which as you can see are pretty odd But some annexations are really organic. We're going to annex Business property that wants to come into the city because they need water or they need this or they need that And the clear economic package for the city is undeniable those kinds of annexations do make sense But we don't grow just through annexations And I think administrator hoffman's presentation tonight shows that our city is growing We are growing in terms of Property property assessments Development this is a really I think everybody in the room can agree. This is a really good place to be living these days and Whether or not there's a third championship ball course in The city even though we'll be in the city I think we can all agree that shabuigan is still going to be a growing place City's growth through density as well as expansion We are a city. We are not a rural area. We are not an agricultural area. We are a city I don't know about you. I am thrilled that these apartment buildings are going in downtown That we're going to get people in our downtown that we're going to become dense That we might actually have people might actually have trouble finding a place to park. Can you imagine that in in shabuigan? I just you know Talk about growing up in shabuigan. Yeah, well Um When I look at that map All I can think of Is that this annexation is like an appendix? You know, it's part of your body. It's kind of down in a weird place It doesn't do anything for you and it can cause a lot of trouble Now I do not doubt that there will be some economic benefit to the city from this annexation I think it's going to take a while um The golf course builds no houses. It attracts no families. It doesn't attract schools It's I'm sure it will be a lovely golf course But it's a golf course It is not a place that that by itself intrinsically is going to make the city grow The water line on the other hand is a big deal And that water line is a really good idea and I would say In 20 to 40 years This annexation if it is approved Is at least one way Of looping that water system and and allowing the city to grow But I think it's a long time coming and it's come in a pretty dismal process The economic benefit again, I am sure it is there I personally hold myself responsible for not insisting on seeing the data upon which those Economic projections were based If you looked at the reports six pages Two glossy pages Front and back and then in the middle there were certain representations about the number of jobs the room tax and number of visits and so forth And that may all be true And it may not you don't know and I among others should have been smart enough to say show us your data Just so we can really be sure of the economic benefit I do think that we are going to be paying a lot of lawyers a lot of money over a long period of time Eventually, I think this will be of an economic benefit to the city, but at what cost And as I weigh those costs, I I just can't see it and so I I My sense is everything's kind of cast in stone at this point But I would urge my fellow authors to just consider the negative pieces of this as well as the Gee, we're going to have another great color golf course in the area Next is Alderperson Nelson Thank you, mayor I have some prepared remarks, but before I I get to the prepared remarks. I I just have to talk about The growing Turmoil over the fact that for color employees are on the I mean on the Common console as I made it as I made it clear in the first meeting that we had I do work at whistling straights. I'm a color company employee in the hospitality and In real estate division I can assure you that there is I have no I have not been pressured whatsoever in either way by any color employee As to how to vote Or any reactions to that so Uh, I I feel I mean actually I feel a little hurt that uh that there's the questions of my My ethical conduct in voting Is at stake as a matter of fact I feel that because I've been elected to represent the people in my district I have been reelect elected to to uh to act in their in their Best interests. I think it would be unethical for me not to vote So of course, I'm going to vote tonight So for the past three months, we've been listening to the pros and cons of accepting the annexation petition From the landowners in the town of wilson who are requesting to be part of the city of shabuaga The speakers on the year side are unanimous regarding the economic benefits to the city the shabuagan economic development corporation the chamber of commerce Various business leaders all tell the tax benefits and enhance growth potential of this annexation The speakers against this petition. I roughly divide into four groups Group one the sincere Passionate environmentalists who my greatly respect But I feel that their time in zeal could be better spent on more critical statewide issues like calf hoes Who are polluting aquifers throughout the whole state and the dumping of hundreds of millions of gallons of raw sewage spewed into lake michigan by the city of milwaukee Group two the small group of nimbies who are pretending to be environmentalists and have been using factoids word bombs and illogical So much is wrong to weave a blanket of innuendo and misstatements Group three a group of people who have become smothered by that blanket and speak without really having an understanding of the facts And for the town officials who are hoping the whole complex issue just goes away These groups number about 30 to 40 people sound like a lot more and the majority live in the town of wilson But what about the citizens of shabuagan? We all them in each directly represent about 6 000 citizens and indirectly represent 42 000 more We were elected to represent these citizens and act in their best interest and they trust us to do so So what is their best interest? They want us to at least maintain if not improve The basic services that impact their lives daily So what are these services? Fire and police protection our firemen and policemen are doing the best job they can with the resources they have Do they need more resources? Ask about the opioid epidemic Ask the people down there king park after the shooting How do we pay for such enhancements? Accelerated street repairs. We have a good start on rehabilitating our streets The people have said we need to do it faster and better. How do we pay for that? Especially without special assessments Mead public library the library has been struggling along with a flat budget for the past number of years Costs of employees and materials continue to rise Surveys show that the library is by far the largest destination of people going downtown In fact, the library serves over three hundred and thirty five thousand people every year Will the library need to cut services or can we increase revenues? Bonding we need to upgrade Our uh, we need upgrades to our suits treatment plant our city hall needs to be rebuilt Do we continue to borrow money for such projects thus passing on this financial burden to our children and grandchildren? How do we hold the line on borrowing without increased revenues? And i'm not talking about the immediate revenues that acceptance of the sanitation will bring The sanitation will provide an avenue for future growth for the city Take a snapshot of shabuigan in 2035 and beyond Will it be the same city with the same financial problems? Or will it be a city that is growing vibrantly and providing all the citizens those services that they want and deserve So fellow alderman take responsibility for the job for which you are elected and act in the best citizens In the best interest of the citizens of shabuigan. Thank you. Next is alderperson bellinger Thank you Mr. Kohler and mr. Kassidy I'd like to thank you for your request for annexation into the city of shabuigan It is my belief that this is a watershed moment You've presented the city with an unbelievable economic opportunity that can be a catalyst for future growth and development The first 26 years of the kohler company shabuigan was your home in 1899 john michael kohler left shabuigan and moved four miles west Because he was concerned that the congestion of the city's 15 000 people would have a negative effect on his business Now 118 years later. Mr. Kohler is petitioning the city to annex the parcel that he owns During the past few months. We've had to listen to people disparage mr. Kohler's character question his motives and minimize his successes I for one believe that mr. Kohler is a visionary and i'm thankful that he's part of our community It's hard to believe what shabuigan county would be without the kohler company His philanthropy and the ripple effect that his successes have had Annexation is vital to prosperity opposition to annexation is reflexive and predictable annexation Is and always has been the lifeblood of growing vibrant cities and the city's continued vitality Is the larger long-term benefit that the citizens who protest annexation tend to overlook Their opposition rests on the arguments that they are happy with the services that the county provides They don't want to pay city taxes and in this instance They believe that they have the right to determine the development outcome of private property Yet the opposition fails to consider two critical points One is tax equity the other isn't the necessity for the city to incorporate its natural tax base The tax equity argument springs from the fact that taxpayers in the city of shabuigan also pay countywide taxes And thereby effectively subsidize the services of the citizens who live outside the city The reality is that a huge chunk of the countywide taxes paid by 43 of the people in the county that reside in the city of shabuigan Are spent for services that the county provides only in unincorporated areas County governments road building and maintenance and sheriff's patrols are all supported by taxes paid by city residents This is not fair and it never has been Cities essentially have no option but to expand their boundaries as they grow their economies and job base Shabuigan simply cannot remain vital and vibrant if we are constrained over time with fixed boundaries Shabuigan will either grow and thrive or wither over time for failure to incorporate their natural tax base There is no such thing as standing still and not slipping backwards Shabuigan must thrive and grow by capturing their natural tax base and improve their planning amenities and infrastructure Or they must decline for lack of sufficient leadership internal support and civil participation Like it or not annexation is not only in inevitable and necessary. It's a point of fairness According to the brookings institution Which is a liberal leaning research institute located on a think tank row in washington dc Their findings on annexation were A city's ability to annex land from its surrounding boundaries is a primary determination of its fiscal health Cities with greater abilities to annex have much higher bond rating scores Annexation is far from an outmoded or dying practice during the 1990s and 2000s 90 of the cities that could annex additional land did so And the flexibility to annex surrounding land in communities was more important to the city's bond rating a sign of fiscal health Than the areas poverty rate or median household income Annexing land therefore appears to be an important route to economic health and development We've been presented with a tremendous opportunity I would like to remind my fellow alderman that we represent the roughly six thousand city residents in each of our districts We do not represent the town of wilson The town of wilson has had the opportunity to deal with this issue and they have chosen to delay and obstruct Now they want to interject themselves into our process by lobbying us into making a decision That is to the detriment of the city and i'm tired of other governmental bodies telling us what we should do After 118 years, we have the county's largest employer requesting to become part of the city The future opportunities for growth become realistic if we embrace this and pass this annexation We have two paths to choose from We could remain stagnant and wither into insignificance by bending to the pressure from those outside the city Or we can be strong and thrive by voting in favor of this annexation in the exciting future it provides I choose the latter By the way, I have asked clerk richards and attorney adams if they have ever been aware of the city declining an annexation request And they both resoundingly said no they did not know of any instance where that took place I would like to once again thank mr. Koehler and mr. Kassidy for this opportunity And it is my hope that I can be the first to welcome you back into the city. Thank you next is older person wolf Thank you, mayor We've listened to quite a few comments and concerns and speeches and Obviously a lot of them have been very well thought out and very eloquent Um in saying that I want to say that you know many say that the road less traveled is a phrase For a topic which people do not want to address I'm sure we've all heard of that Having that having had that topics in the past few years Uh, that has been such one of those such themes. This would be one of them I would like to say thanks to the For your patience and the many city staff including the council and I have I have had many frustrating conversations and statements And have been said and stated in such a way. We've all had many many conversations Foreign against Many have thanked us for the for the thankless job that we do and acknowledged the difficulty in the positions that we all have And how difficult it is being in these positions Growth and change is hard And we all know that if if it was easy We wouldn't be talking like this right now I would like to also say thanks to maryland donahue For assisting in negotiating the pre annexation agreement Into the level that it is even though she may not agree with it at this point We know that this this can be difficult with subjects of level and complexity We can always continue to say, you know hindsight's 2020 Thanks to the scedc for they have assisted in the growth and opportunities for shabuigan county They truly are an extension for the growth in our city and county I'm personally I am personally a growth advocate for the city of shabuigan And I have seen the beginning of a great changes in the past four years. We've talked about that Darryl hoffland actually had pointed it all Pointed it out also we have so much improvements And you can be working on things and it takes years for it to actually be implemented Next I would like to thank the friends of the black river forest Yes, I would like to thank the friends of the black river forest And many of the passionate debates that we have had occurring over the period of time Although we can debate personally Sometimes it is difficult to have clarity and for either from either side and see the forest from the trees I would also like to thank The kohler family and this opportunity. It is great. It is something that we're going to talk about for decades In closing the situation should show all of us in the path of growth No matter if it is in the manufacturing or service industry It is also personally Care that together we can all help each other through the guidance and regulatory agencies in which we have to abide to We have to have faith in the system Today's decisions Will again strengthen the growth either way In in what we can Be in the future for years to come to live work and play in a stronger future. Thank you Next is Alderperson Trester I just have one small comment and that is we keep talking about growth of the city But I think we are 16 people and each of us represent People out there that are not in this room and have we asked those people out there If they want the growth That we project in this room And the ones that have talked to me said they live in shabuagan because they like shabuagan the way it is They move back to shabuagan because they like the small town flavor They like shabuagan without industry as much as what we're talking about They don't want their forest. They don't want the state park to be disrupted Disrupted And I think each one of us has a responsibility We don't work for the mayor. We don't work for mr. Kohler We don't work for the city attorney or the administrator We work for those people who voted us into this position And we need to listen to them. We don't need to listen to the money We need to listen to our constituents. We need to listen to people Because you know what In 2035 some of us aren't even going to be alive To know what the city of shabuagan is going to look like But we will know our neighbor next door and the people across the street now And we know what they want at least I know what some of them want because I've listened And there's nothing worse than a government who thinks they know what the people want without The people's voice It's all I've got to say Alderperson nelson Okay Okay, there's no more lights I asked the clerk to call the roll 11 eyes five notes this vote needed a super majority of 11 votes. It's received that so the motion passes Next we'll move on to item 2.10 Which is our number 43 of 17 18 by the city planning commission to whom was referred general ordinance number 4 of 17 18 They're all the person born in serenson and our own number 35 of 17 18 By the city clerk for an application from the coaler company for the establishment of his owning classification of property Being the entire area included in the annexation petition dated may 15th of 2017 as class suburban residential sr. 5 classification and recommends passing the ordinance Alderperson bellinger I moved to accept and file and pass the ordinance Second Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion on the zoning classification? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll for passage Hold on just a second. Alderperson lee windowsky. You had a comment? Yes, I just want to say that A lot of people in the town of wilson have told us that they don't want to change the classification And they aren't now our constituents and we should listen to them And I will be voting against this Thank you for those comments Any other It's open if you see it on your screen Okay, we're calling the roll No 11 eyes five nose motion passes Next we'll move on to the consent agenda that will include items 3.2 through 3.17. Alderperson wolf Thank you, mayor making them make a motion to accept and file All our o's accept and adopt all our c's and pass all resolutions and ordinances Second. Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion on any of the items in the consent agenda? Seeing none Would you clerk please call the roll for passage? Alderperson donahue I would just note in the consent agenda that the water commissioners report was not there in the acuity The acuity annexation Was listed twice At least on my computer under the under the water commissioners report it was The attachment. Yeah, yeah, we can change that. Okay. Thanks We'll make that correction. Thank you 16 eyes on the consent agenda Motion passes Next move on to reports of officers item 4.1 is our own number 109 of 1718 by the director planning development smitting request for approval to provide site access agreements to various property owners For the planning and design services needed for the extension of the shabuigan business center with similar terms and agreements Alderperson wolf Thank you, mayor. I make a motion to suspend and and then pass Second Is there any objection to suspension? Why are we suspending? Chad can you provide that reason The reason we're suspending is because in document 3.7 You approved a contract to hire ruchard milky to start preliminary engineering and planning services And in order to accomplish a wetland delineation before Everything dies off in october. They need to start immediately. So we need to get these agreements out to adjacent property owners to start that process Thank you for that information Alderperson bellinger Mayor in future mayor could we have a reason for suspension as part of our packet in our documents? So we know You know what you know in the future so we I don't have to keep asking this every time that we're suspending Why why we're doing it? Thank you for that suggestion. We'll take it under advisement Is there any other discussion? Okay, then Is there we'll We're ready to vote on the motion then. Is there any other discussion? Seeing none will the clerk call the roll 16 eyes motion passes Item 4.2 is our number 112 of 17 18 by the director of planning and development submitting a request to adopt the 2017 analysis of impediments to fair housing plan is prepared by the department of city development Alderperson wolf Thank you, mayor. I make a motion to suspend and pass Second, thank you for that motion in support. Chad. Could you explain alderman bellinger? I put it in this one It's the last sentence in this one. Okay. Thank you Um, the what this is is it's a fair housing plan that we're supposed to have for any kind of federal CDBG dollars We're starting a major process in 29 for approval in 2019 of an assessment of the entire city There's a memorandum of understanding going to the finance and personnel committee to do that But in the short term hud has advised us to update our current plan which expired expires in 2017 It was drafted in 2012 So we have something current on the books and then in anticipation that we're doing a more detailed process So the reason for the suspension is this has to go in to get the black rent dollars And it's due on august 16th, and they just advised us of this a week or two ago. So Thank you. Yep Is there any discussion on the motion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll 16 eyes motion passes Items 4.3 through 4.10 will be referred to various committees Under resolutions 5.1 is resolution number 50 of 1718 by alder person holshew authorizing the city attorney To engage the services of special outside legal counsel to represent the law and licensing committee and the common counsel with regard To a park impact fee appeal hearing requested by robert j. Werner president of lee realty incorporated doing business as werner holmes and president of member stonebrook crossings llc In authorizing payment for said services is alder person holshew Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move that the community. I got the wrong one. I have a ask for suspension first I would like to ask for suspension because we have to address this in our law and licensing meeting next week Is there any objection to suspension? Please proceed. I move that the resolution Be put upon its passage Second. Thank you for that motion and support under discussion Anything else I would refer to on our city attorney Chuck could you please explain this one This is an appeal Of a park impact fee. We have to hire special outside counsel to represent the committee Because I am conflicted out because I have provided legal advice to Chad palachek and his department with regard to how to How to proceed so because of that I'm conflicted out from actually representing the committee And so as we often do at the law and licensing committee, we will hire outside counsel for that hearing Thank you for that information alder person valinger. Just a question Does that preclude rose then from working on it as well? Yes. Okay. Thank you In the in the future, it's this was the first one in the future It's our hope that there won't be the need for Legal counsel to actually represent the department and we won't need to do this But for this one we had we had to okay. Thank you Is there any other discussion on this motion? Now will the clerk please call the roll 16 eyes motion passes Items 5.2 through 5.5 will be referred to various committees Under reports of committees Item 6.1 is rc number 80 of 1718 by the public works committee to whom is referred our own number 99 of 1718 by the director of public works Submitting the co-digestion evaluation for the city of shabuagan wastewater treatment plant and recommends to accept and adopt The report of findings and to suspend the co-digestion program alder person wolf Thank you, mayor. I make a motion to accept and adopt second Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll 16 eyes Motion passes item 6.2 is rc number 82 of 1718 by law and licensing committee to whom is referred Pursuant to our own number 84 of 1718 by the city clerk Submitting license application and recommends that beverage operators license number Zero one four zero be denied based upon is an Ineligibility For a license and failure to cooperate with the committee all the person holds you Thank you. I move that the reported committee be accepted and adopted second Thank you for that motion and support under discussion I'd like to see if richard davis is here richard Do we need to check these second rumors that room has been empty empty Um richard is not here this evening nor was he at our meetings So our committee voted to deny his um license based on his in Are the license and failure to cooperate with our committee? Is there any other discussion on the motion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll 16 eyes Motion passes item 6.3 is rc number 83 of 1718 by the law and licensing committee Too much referred pursuant to our own number 84 of 1718 by the city clerk Submitting various license application and recommends the nine beverage operators license number 5705 based upon is an eligibility for a license and his failure to cooperate with the committee all the person holds you Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted second Thank you for that motion and support under discussion. Is there a mr. Eric meyer here It does not appear that eric is here nor did he come to our meetings He is ineligible for a license and he failed to come to our committee to have a hearing Thank you for that information. Is there any other discussion? Seeing none will the clerk call the roll 16 eyes motion passes Item 6.4 is rc number 87 of 1718 by the finance and personnel committee too much referred resolution number 48 of 1718 by all their person born authorizing and establishing and appropriation in the 2017 budget For tiff 16 development incentive and recommends that the resolution be passed all the person down here Thank you, mayor. I move to accept adopt and pass the resolution second. Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll 16 eyes motion passes Under lat matters laid over item 7.1 is resolution number 42 of 1718 by all the person wolf Authorizing accepting a grant from shabuigan county in the amount of $6,925 to be used towards the 88 kayak canoe launch facility In koanas park all the person wolf Thank you, mayor Make a motion to pass resolution second. Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion on the resolution? Seeing none with a clerk call the roll 16 eyes motion passes Item 7.2 is general ordinance number 10 of 1718 by all the person whole shoot donahue liwandowski and rindflash Permitting horses in the downtown area and providing for prompt cleanup of manure all the person whole shoot Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move that the ordinance be put upon its passage. I could thank for that motion and support under discussion Um They First time for me we sat down and chatted this is for horse drawn carriages and the rides that they give And the the question we had is um, basically how how much time do you get to clean up the is that correct? I believe that's for they have to wear a diaper So we will now be having horse rides Throughout our city, which will be very romantic Thank you for those comments all their person liwandowski Committee and I thought some of the other members here might like to have the same question answered But what is considered a downtown area? Chad would you like to answer that? I'll answer it um So the reason what is considered the downtown area is the area that used to be known as plaza 8 So we had an outdated ordinance that banned horses in plaza 8 We did have at one point A court judge who interpreted and we're talking 15 years ago interpreted one of our other old ordinances That referred to plaza 8 after plaza 8 was gone to still be effective to cover the areas that used to be covered by plaza 8 And so this in essence eliminates that so that they can be anywhere in the city rather than Everywhere except what used to be plaza 8 Thank you for that explanation. Does that answer your question? Okay all the person nelson Thank you, mayor. Just uh, just uh question I'm assuming that it's the operator that is going to be cleaning up the manure within an hour And also, uh, is there any? Penalty for not cleaning it up Yes, so what this does is it basically makes it the responsibility Of the operator to clean up the manure If uh, if they do not If they if they continue to violate the ordinance not only Could they be cited with with the citation for the ordinance? under 66.8 but we've also Provide included a provision that We could in essence order that they would have to use the horse diapering system And they would not be permitted to operate without doing that. Thank you. Chad. Did you still want to make a comment? This really stemmed from a thought that I had about bringing down horses to the downtown on concert series So we went out and talked to the wade house because they run a horse and buggy Type of operation and they have an interest in coming here However, the ordinances were out of date and it really stemmed on getting the ordinances up to date But I think if you should pass this ordinance Our goal with the business improvement district is to continue next year working with the wade house and maybe providing a horse and buggy System in the downtown on certain days just to kind of transport people around as another Venue for transportation. So I'd encourage you to pass it. I think you know, it's it's a clever way of moving people and That the wade house was interested in in doing a diapering system if they had to It's not the preferred method, but they you know would work through that But I think it's really about just allowing horse but horse and buggy to be here Whether it's a wedding party or just a public transportation venue Thank you All the person sorenson. I guess I just have a quick few questions Since i'm so young, I guess I don't really know where plaza 8 is But i'm just kind of assuming that that's that's that's the downtown 8th street area Plaza 8 is before my time too, so okay, I'll address what plaza 8 so in 1976 the city approved a Pedestrian mall where they shut down a street from center avenue to eerie and it was going to become a Pedestrian mall like like Denver has and they were going to enclose all of the stores And had this big grand old plan And that's when the helper in fountain kind of came along at the library and those types of things So plaza 8 was a street when it was closed down to become a pedestrian square I guess for some of my questions I just got some quick quick questions if I can just shoot them off to anyone So are the horses going to be able to walk around anywhere? We're going to have designated Paths or designated roads that the can and cannot go on and also would we be installing signs, you know like horse xing or caution horse poop or Something along those lines because my worry is that if a horse You know leaves a pile on the street that you know Someone might you know cars might be driving through if they have a whole hour You know to finish the route and then that's going to get all over the place and Make a mess of downtown city attorney. Yeah, so First of all We're while we're eliminating the ordinance regarding horses in plaza 8 The exposure of unwholesome matter applies to the whole city so Previously horses were allowed elsewhere in the city But in essence there was no provision if I mean frankly The way the law was written You could have cited somebody using a horse elsewhere in the city The second they dropped some manure. Well, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either They'll be able to they'll be able to have a horse anywhere in the city The the other issue is Not it's not really dealt with with this ordinance, but whether or not An organization like that is going to require a taxicab ordinance and we have we specifically designed this for organizations like what chad is talking about Who are operating on a fixed route? Not going from wherever, you know, not just picking up passengers who'd say I'd like to take a horse out to wherever So that would not require a taxicab license similarly someone who has just sort of Ordered, you know, you know for a wedding, let's say they want to get transported from The church to a reception site or something like that That's always been allowed in the city As long as they avoided the area that were covered by plaza eight And none of that will change Thank you for that explanation Alderperson boron I'm one of the older guys on this council In years and I was just going to ask alderman nelson whether he recalls how this was handled This manure issue was handled back in the 20s and 30s Oh Please sit down alderman boron Thank you for that question You want to respond alderman nelson. No, okay great See no more valid discussion. I'd like to ask the clerk to call the roll 16 eyes motion passes Next is a contemplated closed session all the person will we've got no one. Sorry other matters see the attorney 8.1 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending december 31st 2017 june 30th 2018 and june 30th 2019 That'll be referred to the law and licensing committee 8.2 is a resolution by alderperson trester Changing the name of the north flats neighborhood association to the maple heights neighborhood association that'll lie over 8.3 is an arrow by the board of contractors examiner Submitting application for building contractor licenses that have been granted That'll also lie over Now alderperson wolf Thank you, mayor, even though I really would like to jump to 10.1 I will make a motion to convene in closed session under under the exemption provided in section 18.85 sub 1 sub e of the wisconsin states where competitive and bargaining reasons Require the closed session related to the land of the town of wilson adjacent to i-43 second Thank you for that motion in support The clerk, please call the roll 16 eyes Motion passes We'll be going into closed session then for our viewers at home We'll be adjourning in closed session solution and our broadcast for this evening And we'll take a two minute break while we clear the chambers