 Corbin yeah, how many Mexicans does it take to change a light bulb? Oh many Do not say Juan just one Hey, welcome back to our stupid directs of Corbin Hola levados you can follow us on Instagram Twitter for more juicy content Thank you. Thanks for watching on Patreon follow us at accounts grab a like button Speaking of names Who came up with Jesus the Romans was a Constantine? That anglicized the pronunciation who is at some point I should know this I used to teach this these kinds of subjects But I may I am interested to know When did yes she will become anglicized who's responsible for that the white people for sure Today we got a two-parter interview here with money rot now cool and a couple other people read this In this India glitz Tamil video, let's look into the world of Tamil cinema We're visioning visionary directors discuss about conviction join us as director money rotten sheds light on the invaluable contributions of K. Balichander Barati Raja Mahandran and Baloo Mahandra who have left an incredible mark on Tamil cinema with their unique storytelling and creative brilliance So they're talking about kind of contributors to yeah Forgive us if they will mention names that we're unfamiliar with or have forgotten that we're familiar with but this is it Didn't put everything in one. So it's a right. It's a two-parter. Okay, so here we go The beginning of a movie I know I want to go fight Thanos Wait me when it's over That was kind of like opening up a play bill at the Pasadena playhouse you get all the sponsors before you get to the actual credits Well, that was quick This is for pony and selban Creates his own universe and gave us a local. Hey, we know her back there. Oh baseball Joseph He was the lead in Jaya Jaya and he's also director my honor. Yes Chopra's back there behind her Wow, this is quite the panel. Oh Whoa, yeah, so he's Canada. They got a Malayali. They got a Tamil Great panel conviction. I think I think We were making this is a weird very this is a very South Indian edit is accepted by the mainstream audiences Sorry for Rosa you are connected to the movie with the romance or the basic human emotions. You are connected So good make a look for this and that I hope it's a sweet Yes That's like me There's one guy up there they didn't introduce Who first invited me to be here? Tell me about conviction money, sir Conviction. I think I think I can talk from my that was so good I think we had Had some fantastic filmmakers before Who paved the way for us? you know, there was I mean Balachandra was there. Barthiraja was there. Balima. Indra was there. Mahindra knows there. I think they broke ground and they laid apart and Think distinct about Tamil was That all the good filmmakers were making films within the mainstream and Not necessarily very parallel. So there's always Sensibility that had been ingrained into mainstream cinema and that helped us there is Canada I think can run Malayalam had very distinct and there was Girish Kastravilli Girish Karnat They're very fantastic filmmakers, you know, JV. Yeah, there was enough of them But and it took a while Before that sensibility got into mainstream film, right? Whereas here we had the advantage of people like Balchandra to make this way and that gives the every younger person a conviction. I think Today if a lot of youngsters are making Tamil films, I think We all owe it to them Vetri, where do you find conviction as a storytelling? I would like to add on to the point that money's are made about I didn't see them introduce him. Sorry. I need to know who he is We don't have a parallel movement as such every other language in India has we only have the mainstream Is that true? Tamil doesn't have a parallel films So whatever films that are made it has to be made for the mainstream audiences We need to address even the most serious of ideas and thoughts that we need to put Which we want to tell us stories Film stories are okay It has to be catered to the mainstream audiences That has given every Filmmaker a bigger challenge Or a Tamil Tamil filmmakers a bigger challenge, which is what kind of compromises are you ready to make? When you're making a serious film your compromises are lesser Uh, and when you're when you're trying to make a mainstream film you need to take the audience into account In the process what has happened is we have started making films With whatever we want only to the mainstream is another Tamil mainstream audiences have evolved. I when I When we were making Visaranai I used to tell my team if this film is accepted by the mainstream audiences I would I would say that the Tamil audiences are the most evolved mainstream audiences And they did make that film a profitable film. So I feel I I feel As Tamil filmmakers we are Gifted to be in this position where the audiences are open and we are Challenged as creative people to work only within the mainstream framework but When when you are saying conviction I I actually don't understand what you mean by the word conviction, but I'm glad I asked me to you're saying that We have to tell the stories To make all the films or four of you have made films that require courage. Yes. So I I think it comes from our sincerity to tell a story for our own people not taking into consideration anything beyond that and we all have a Being true to yourself a mathematical balance. I would say in terms of commerce money, sir was the first person to do something like, you know Taking a newcomer and liberating himself from the star pressure And coming up with a film like roja He was telling a story for himself. Like, you know, it's a small story But it had an international appeal Bombay for that matter also so We want to tell stories again, uh, when I say we I would So it's uh, I'm assuming that I'm assuming that so, uh, all of us want to tell stories from our own world And if it connects Internationally, it's fine where when when I want to tell a story Which connects to the whole world. I might end up making certain compromises that that might not work for the People whom I'm making the film for or from from whom I'm making the film from I think that we all are all of us are On on the dot. I think with this, you know, I have to say that, you know, when you talk about roja People talk about pan indian now Roja was pan india 30 years ago Right. I used to work at india today magazine and every day we would take a 15 minute break to listen to the soundtrack We would all just stop working Because choti si asha we had to listen to at least once but let's talk about these compromises. So rishabh You always told me this key local is universal, right when you made minnal moorly, um basal When you were making it Did you not like battery say ever think it audience bar kya hogi? Yeah Um, if I do this change, maybe it'll cross borders. You don't think of that at all Uh First of all, uh, I have a language issue. So I can't speak in english. So do I rishabh. I can't speak tamil kanada I can speak tamil kanada Hindi What about hindi hindi is going to For 10 people Oh too bad they didn't have a translator So that is the issue, uh It's a good thing I always seen indian cinema, uh, kanada cinema, tamil, hindi, telugu, malayalam so, uh Well, I'm a below average student. I don't even read much So my inspiration My gamma kahaani So what I have seen in my village, uh, and moreover I always uh I always uh Fan boy or an audience So make audience jesa dektaum So agar make audience hoom je achalak na chheye mera kahaani So, uh, ish liye main sojtha ki mera gav ka kahaani So your rooted stories hai More jada reach hotei kyunki abhi kanta raho. So, uh Poesah ek rituals Pazah ek kahaani So her So, uh So, uh, these kind of a connection, uh Pure uh india meh Sir, it's shayad aap bahar dekta, agar aap vikings dekta, to udarka abhi jo rituals dektaf The vikings me. So it's more connected to indian, jo rituals hamlokarte hain to wo hain Uh, I always felt so yeh kahaani to har logon ko connect hojayaega So, uh, hanko jo jada influence nahi hona chahi agar me yeh connect hotei agar ke mein Ek western film jesa karna aur hindi film jesa karna, wo jada disconnect hojayaega log Toh ish liye it should be very core, very regional, very rooted I think I understood most of what he was saying, actually So, tell me about the pressure of success then, basil, you made me know murli which was massive success All of us were rooting for this homegrown superhero Now you're making another film does that put pressure on you to think about audiences like us Who are not murli alam speaking Definitely it's a Actually, it's a pressure actually to make a to meet the expectations coming from with the next movie, but All I have to connect to that to the conviction we have not compromising on the Our own our own sensibility to make it more global or more wider or more pan indian as we call it today Uh, we just have to be true to our movie. We have to be true to our emotions that that so it Have been working for all along all the way like for sure That's exactly how raja murli has responded to those questions. Yeah the romance or the basic human emotions. You are connected That's global. I'm gonna make it. Yeah, I'm gonna make it for us if you like it great And a lot of it has universal truth. Yeah, it'll resonate the emotion is the universal and you have there you go Yeah, you have to be personal everybody's a human everybody has emotions right following some template or something like that so I think there is a pressure for Doing a next film for sure But definitely if we are true to the genre if we are true to our emotions, it is personal And then uh, and if the storytelling can Translate It's not just about making a route at everything. It won't work beyond borders. Maybe the translation have to be also In fact, maybe uh, like Korean industries have been doing for so long Like they have been doing that storytelling is translating the global audience Even they are they are all making their own culture. They are on Yes, or their own brutal stories. It's connected to the global audience. So I think that's all matters We have to translate it cleverly. Maybe with proper storytelling, but true to the emotions It should come from the heart But little bit of maybe a brain as well You take the pressure of the box office now that you're all so widely successful When you're writing when you're creating the next one Is there a number because now we're all talking about a thousand crores And uh, that's the conversation now which film is now hit a thousand How do you as artists protect yourself from that? Don't read the numbers Leave it leave that to the producers and distributors. Yeah, do you hear that twitter? I think all that You as a filmmaker look for is That this film should do well enough For me to get another chance. Yes for me to do one more which is why you support good films by giving them your box office money That's what matters Which means my story gets told to write right the numbers become an additional thing. You know, it is not the Main thing preach it money. Hear the applause And we should be able to make more and more movies. Yes, that doesn't mean if a movie makes money that it's a good movie faster Many more all these guys are good movies ought to make money because the producers will make more of them No, I Okay, let me put it this way my films are not really really big Successful like, you know the not really the bigger box office stuff Um, I would always wish when I start a film. I would always Wish and plan to have a break even on table on the day of the release for my producer Anything over and about that. I'm right. Yeah, if that doesn't happen on paper I wouldn't want to start a film if I can't see that except for this Yeah, you want your producers to get their money back at least yeah fair minimum budget. Don't lose money We did not intend to spend so much but we had to spend that kind of money but Otherwise if the producer breaks even I'm very happy. Yes I take only that much calculation into mind and As money's are said He directed that movie. We haven't seen it. It came out a couple months ago. You are vj. Sadapathy, isn't it? As a supporting role and it's kind of a village thing behind the scenes of a multiple thing He's the director of that We're gonna watch it. I haven't seen it So I look at I mean, I guess only that much Any producer would produce again as long as they don't lose money. Yeah, Oscar winning Screenwriter William Goldman once said and very famously said about the movie business But nobody knows anything Orson Welles said that too post pandemic something like it Because generally nobody knows has any clue But at least in in Mumbai what I hear a lot key prevailing wisdom is But now audience will come for spectacle for song for stars Anything that's made or smaller budget anything that's more personal because in Mumbai. They care about box office above all streaming Is this true? Like do you guys think about what do people want to see in theaters? That is the most most difficult one because you can't predict Before cantara have done a They had no idea contara was going to make what it made which is a children's film So you're asking about the numbers before this so May over film one point four crores may film My papa's a good media Jacky Pooja a kya beta is a experiment karata. Oh experiment. I could have a spicy later. This is a film Okay, but will film Peace Corps of Tuck box office collection I He made the lowest budget can India film, I think In contara So can I So no one's trying to second guess the audience Basil would you say yes um actually like He have said we cannot predict anything right now because people Change the taste the trends change for sure. Like just before covid people were more driven to content oriented or realistic movies back then and then now since the onset of kgf or kandhara or Akhubali like big movies people maybe want To come to theater for big spectacles rather than rather than for content driven like small scale realistic movies But at the same time small scale comedy movies are working out somewhere like even very low budgets All movies are working out and some even drama is also working out sometimes But it's it's not predictable at all. But all I have to say is like updated with our own like stay updated upskilling is something Which is very important. I think like in the past when we used to Listen to air roman or rillera jazz songs the kids these days are listening to BTS or Blackpink so we have to Stay along with the generation and they're listening to ani and you know Then from that perspective when we make movies it might connect with the audience or the people Who are along with the trend actually? I so I don't think there is any framework for The trends or anything like that BTS It's a k-pop korean pop music So there's another there's another part is there anything great to say in between that No, we have a second part. We have a second part. Yeah, if there's anything you wanted to say in between that though Now all the only thing I wanted to point out. I took a note That's why I got my phone was that You hear this consistently within indian cinema all over the place the difference between mainstream and parallel Which in the states you most of you probably already know this for us That would be synonymous with say independent and studio as far as the focus on one of them is more focused on Artistry and the other one's more focused on technically making a lot of money technically 824 is technically Independent film. Yeah, even though they're they're bordering now on They're just too big now to be considered independent. They have too much money, right basically At a certain point, but thankfully they're not a member of the amp tp. So stay that way That's why they made a couple exceptions. Yeah, yeah, yeah 24. Yeah, I don't think they're doing anymore Um, but here we go for the second part great You know what film I'm talking about. I do know what you're referring to. Yeah. Oh, I just wanted to You're skipping the big intro stuff. Yeah It's a k-pop korean pop music Themselves bollywood Okay, all right, it's just two minutes of I've never listened to one BTS song so you don't know one BTS song. I'm sure I've heard it like oh my stars No, I go good The songs are great their music videos are great. They're talented guys Alexis adores them seen in my concerts discussions. You just ask Your BTS is great genuinely sir seriously, sir 40 years of money that's not what I thought she was gonna say I heard It's unbelievable. It's uh and the thing is You still speak to us with that same Passion with that same sincerity when I go into ps1 I'm swept away like I was when I saw roja or bombe or nigran How is it that you never just sit home and rest and say today I'll just pat myself on my laurels and be happy What keeps you striving laurels? Never heard that thing. I don't do it. Pat myself on my laurel. Yeah Rest on your laurel pat myself on the back But You still want to do the next film and when you want to do a next film it is I don't know why but it's always like a first film You really when you start off at least for me when I start up I have no clue how I'm going to do it I have a scene on hand when I start a new film in a new scene. I don't know how to shoot it So you have to go in discover and then Get into a rhythm and then keep building but it It never lets you become confident to be very honest when I did my first film It was a canada film and I didn't know filmmaking. I didn't know canada I'd written a script and I thought I could make it. I just convinced I told the actor that I have a producer I told the producer I have an And then I was making the film I had two choices I could work as a nesting director and become a director later But I thought seven years. I'm not ready to work as an assistant. I've done my post graduation. I've worked for two years enough The other option was to write a script and convince. So I went the other way I thought to myself told myself that if I write a script, you know convince a director No, uh, any of the big directors to take the script and then with him I'll work on one film and learn filmmaking That's what my plan was but when I finished the script. I thought I'll do it myself and So I told myself that this one film I'll learn everything I'll fall and get up and learn everything and then let them see who I am But that never happens, you know, I mean you never Really learn it fully. You're still struggling and they're still you're always in awe of Uh Masters, you know, when I see vetries for them up in a series No, I mean, this is just fantastic. It just inspires you that The limit is up there far far above. So it's pushes you Okay for that kanthara you are the inspiration, sir Tell them tell them So we can make films like okay kanmani and Pony in central also. So that is an inspiration that As a filmmaker as a storyteller, we should break the genres So we should explore different different contents. So He's the inspiration How does that feel when money circles you a master? I I really um Feel really embarrassed He says such things I feel that he's very Uh He likes to encourage youngsters and he's he's he's encouraging I look at it that way only and About I'll I'll first say about this Uh pandemic stuff. I think before even before the pandemic the trend of going in To watch spectacles on screen Set in India with the advent of OTT popularity When a lot of films start like you know when OTT's swept into the mainstream viewing thought process We wanted to watch spectacles And when that's not new don't came in it cemented itself. But again It's not just the visual spectacle, but an emotional immersion that is I feel When you're sitting inside a theater if you can hold the audience or if he feels that he cannot he he He doesn't need to go to his mobile phone to get a new shot of one one fresh shot of uh Dopamine dopamine Fresh shot of dopamine through the phone Then he will come to the theater and sit I think there are some very nice examples in Tamil no very small films like love today was a very small film and the kind of uh, see When we when we are talking about watchability on in coming into the big screen and watching like we talk about all the big films the the pan india films and even small films the how how you Accept the film or respect the film or whatever opinion you have about the film Irrespective of that we talk about how people come in and take the film So a small film like love today is accepted as much as a big triple r or kgf is accepted so I think the immersive experience and the emotional Connect there's some point where I can identify with the world that is being built and the issues that are being discussed Uh, if it's a if it's my problem A modern day issue Then I go to theater with respect of the size of the film in terms of budget and At the same time if there is something that I can feel proud of I'm going to feel proud of uh, I mean every every Every person in Tamil Nadu Is proud of Puneen Selvan Very very proud of Puneen Selvan for that matter When when uh vikram came also vikram came also we were like feeling like okay, so we Tamil Film industry has an answer to the pan indian Syndrome or pan indian thing though we will celebrate the film. So that kind of if if that Pride works that also is a matter of connecting factor money sir, I feel He has been an inspiration for I think a guy in the 10th grade now who wants to become a filmmaker. I watched uh I did not have the opportunity to watch nayan in theaters when it got released, but I had a VHS tape At home I watched that film for 47 times I want to be a filmmaker To do a film as good as nayan or better than nayan so I was when I was 15 I watched the film and I came Wanted to become a filmmaker today a 15 year old guy will Guy or girl will watch Puneen Selvan and will want to become a filmmaker So that is the kind of influence and impact money sir has So so whatever whatever you say whatever you do uh One name has been a constant in Tamil cinema Like what Sachin Tendulkar was for Good comparison that name like that name for Tamil cinema and for Indian cinema also. Yeah, I like money sir's courage his courage to Go up and make a film like see whether you like it or not. That's not a problem for me Okay, you don't like it. I will wake up in the morning tomorrow and I will start afresh That courage not anybody Or not everybody is as courageous as money sir is to be constantly making films these 40 years are not just His ability to connect With his stories to the people but his courage And commitment to make films continuously. I think that is what we all should learn from money, sir that courage Thank you for that, sir You know, I want to also touch briefly about something that I think about a lot because With the emergence of the big spectacle movies right with with the success of let's say pushpa or the kgf films or rr rr There's also a sort of return in a way of the larger than life Very hyper masculine hero I feel women in film have made Have made great leaps in the last 15 years, you know in front of the camera behind the camera We have so many more women directors now I am afraid as a lover of cinema as as a film critic that Somewhere we will take three steps back because again At least in Mumbai the general idea is key The female lead film is mid-budget. It's a little, you know, it's more personal. Chhoti film. Hey Go to OTT How do we stop that from happening because like you said it's not about Budget it's about emotion. It's about how much you are immersed in a narrative How do we make sure since you are the goats That women are not pushed to the sidelines again Oh Not only Women filmmaker so that will happen for low budget filmmakers Yeah Hello, so I think We can only hope yeah I should say that this trend has been regressive In terms of women representation that that has happened and We we should really look into it take it seriously in terms of representation at the same time. I think Women making films Should Speak more boldly about their own They should come out to tell their own stories in a more bolder way I agree I would say and Number of more number of Women filmmakers should come one of my assistants and women producers. Yeah Let us tell our own stories. Please don't try to give us representation. She said yeah Let the women tell their stories and let them produce it. I think that should that's what happened with barbie and this regressive approach of portraying women should definitely Change in in the bigger films bigger films, uh, where it is more evidently regressive Making a note to myself about women Hey, which was my favorite films. Uh, you got beta agreed. It was fantastic Great film talk about female lead films No, no, we can't we can't be prescriptive key only women can tell you know everybody. I'm just saying Largely speaking, I hope we can you know, we can kind of keep pushing on this front Um, I've just been told that seven minutes to end. So I have one one last she's such a good interviewer. Mm-hmm You know for too many years now when we speak about Hindi cinema or Bollywood it becomes that's Indian cinema right through his oscar campaign um Rajam only kept saying this is not a Bollywood film Yeah, everybody was calling it a Bollywood film. Do you see in The next year in the next two years But that has shifted and will continue to shift where the four industries of the south and hindi cinema are now the new national cinema I have to share my personal experience. Uh, Articulum was in um festival I'll just get the name. Okay. It was in a festival and uh, A canadian actress she was uh, she she was invited for the film she came and She asked, uh, is this a hindi language film? I said, no, no, it's a tamar film. Very educated question Indian film speaking in tamar. Shouldn't a Sri lankan film be speaking in tamar? I said no India has a lot of ignorance. Yeah, it's one language. She said oh, I thought India speaks only hindi Oh, wow. Yeah, that's very common and As long as this This narrative is strongly built. We see they have bought that idea and uh, I don't out of ignorance Very uncommon for one country to speak so many languages Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, all woods. I don't like the French speak French The English speak English the Spanish speak Spanish. Yep. It's very different in India. It's uh, Strong stars and the market and the business. So they've reached that way and uh, with films RRR was called Supposed to be a biggest collector in the US Equal to all the Hollywood films also when such films come and the discussion starts around it There might be people who are aware of it, but then Most people are not bothered about what language we speak like I'm talking about them. So what language we we speak they are Content with their own misinformation So only when they put in some effort to change that it will change. We can't be like, you know going and screaming about Uh, who what kind of films we make who we are and all of that word of mouth just keep spreading the word A lot of a is just ignorance. Most countries don't have hundreds of languages. It's just ignorance If indie films stop calling themselves Bollywood, I think it will change I think yeah, because internally We've been told none of them like that term. Yeah, they keep it because it's monetarily successful for them to keep that term This is true. And and I have to say I have some All of us media people have some part of it. No, it's your fault as Bollywood I want to just end with with something that I read somewhere that Kamal Hassan Saw ponien selvin one and he said that hope so he voiced it. This is the golden age of Tamil cinema and as a Tamil artist as a Tamil filmmaker He was very proud So I want to see that line and say I think this is the golden age of south Indian cinema And as an Indian critic and an Indian I don't disagree with that statement So thank you goats. I think it is a golden age of Indian cinema. So finally we we all Yes Can't wait to see everything all of you make next and thank you for the time and thank you ci for the opportunity Great great great interview great great panel as always. I would love to I think I picked up on a lot of what Basil Joseph. No, not basil. He's the one on the end This is basil joseph. Oh, oh, oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, and I think he was the director as well can correct him if Shetty. Yes Reshab Shetty I think I picked up on a lot of what he was conveying obviously we didn't have subs for for him Which apparently we were kind of like a lot of the audience because apparently a lot of them Exactly don't speak any But it's it's always good. There's a in-depth discussion about a lot of the current goings on great questions of Indian cinema specifically south Indian cinema because they're all south Indian directors And it was it was I'd say Manny is kind of he's a different style of film like we'd use like the Steven Spielberg of Indian cinema who loves history Yeah, yeah, he's different than Steven because Steven I think does a lot more commercial style films a lot But a lover a lover of things historic for sure. Manny. I feel like is more Not even though his films are commercially successful I feel like they're not as big and commercial as like obviously Jurassic Park E.T. Obviously all those those things Yeah, but I feel like in terms of like his clout or his respect amongst people and his The amount of people he's inspired all around. Yeah. Yeah He is he is that of indian cinema. Yeah, I agree And I one of the the differences I see consistently between all of the south industries versus the hindi industry Is that the south industries and it was evidenced here in the panel Consistently talk about tell your story focus on story box offices and material Other than let my producers not lose a penny and let's ensure we have enough money to make another film we want to make Consistently what I hear in hindi from everyone in the industry is box offices king It's the most important thing the other thing I I heard and It's interesting that while yes post pandemic the things that have made the most money of the juggernauts and the big Sensational especially right. Yeah, but this isn't a new thing The idea of a blockbuster and epic film began with jaws. Yeah, but the fact that I mean There were a few films a while ago internationally You know, I think everybody may have forgotten these avenger films Those were quite big spectacles that did really well at the box office the fact that post pandemic Um, well, I guess after the essential pandemic, right? Um The stuff that did work before like all the The kind of yes eushman style films right in terms of they have a message. Yes Didn't or at least haven't worked until more recently Uh at the box office But I think there's a multi factor to that the first one is the fear of getting back into the theaters And you need to be drawn for something that's big Secondarily a lot of the films that would fall into the say the parallel side or the more artsy side Come against something in india that they don't come against Here in america or a lot of the western film industries and that's the censorship board. Yeah, they just inherently go ott because One of two reasons they think well Folks are a little bit hesitant to come to the theater unless it's a big thing because a lot of the folks are Still a little uncomfortable coming out into the public that's that's gone away But the larger issue is especially for people who are writing things predominantly for artistry is Is my film going to get chopped up so much that I am going to need to release it on ott The last thing I wanted to mention and she asked a great question was about Women and the way that they're represented One of the challenges not just in india, but in all over the world is that particularly when you're telling stories from history The sad reality is if you wanted to tell a movie for example about any of the presidents of the united states None of them were women If you're going to tell a story about any of the teams who battled in professional sports in america And won the world series or won the super bowl or won the mba title or won the stanley cup It's all men If you're going to tell stories about people who did heroic things in world war two or the korean war and were on the front lines Was all men So the ones who would know those stories better than anybody or women who say you know what there's a lot of stories about women That need to be told or we're just going to create something that's of a fiction And let them helmet and the big problem is not a lot of men want to produce that you need more Margot robbies and and more gretta gerwigs who are willing to produce the things they want to make absolutely. Yeah, because Though obviously the women actors directors have been there always It's just they they don't get the voice But thankfully you do have names now that have the voices like the zoas who You know Not only is going to get the money, but she's going to maintain creative control. Yeah just Duplicate that over and over again Uh Another one that's doing great work into production producing a um anushka. Sharma. Anushka shy That's who i was just going to say is an enormous a great producer Uh, always love whatever she but it but we've just all mentioned names that are in the hindi industry Yep, we we need to know some of the names in the south industry as quickly that are are creating stories and producing films that are women Uh, the Bengali thing we just saw um, she is Konkana's mother. Yes, uh She's still around and I believe yes, she's producing. I believe they work as you are correct. Um, that would be Bengali industry or hindi I don't know. Yeah what she does predominantly, but um All these like in terms of like the box office success that that he had in kanthara that I think I think you can correct me if I'm wrong I think he said I had the smallest budget pan india film Yeah, yeah Which because of the success that that film had the kanata film industry is just in terms of box off of it's alone Yeah, it's an insane it very much reminds me of something i'm going to be talking about Tomorrow i'm starting a 30 minute thing on my youtube channel live called for the love of the craft And i'm going to be specifically referring to a comment a long comment someone made That is related to ai, but it's also related to some of the things that differentiate motivations of filmmakers that were talked about here and Corbin and I will always If you want to just go do something to make money That's your prerogative go do it to make money when it comes into the realm of art form It it always speaks to the more if I can coin the word elevative The higher level humanity Meaning i'm talking about the humanities To to be creating something humanities. Yes the human humanities to be creating something for the the purpose of artistic expression and fine artistry And then you hope You're able to recoup cost and if you make a profit that's even better because then you can take that profit and make something else Again, but that's not the arbiter and if there's somebody in the hindi industry who can tell you that it's on your akashia He's a great example of somebody who he makes films because he wants to make films He's he's not making films because he's looking for those to be big box office Yeah, I think he actually has mostly the biggest failures of all time Yeah, I think most of us and some of the greatest motion pictures made in indian cinema So great interviews great panel that was fun that that 40 minutes of part one and two went Really really quick use it. Okay. So this is the film that that I was talking about. Yeah Which a lot of people really enjoy say it's one of the better films of the year Oh, we're gonna get to it. I just haven't yet. He's a producer on jolly taku Uh, oh, he directed a shoe run. Okay. So we've seen that director vada chanay Oh, I didn't know he was part of the producer for jolly kato. Yeah I'm trying to see if there's oh, why do I know that? Why do I know that? One of the things though another point on the women one of the things that all of the men can do in those industries Who have power like a monty rotten them or anybody on that panel One of the things they can do Is give power to women that they know ought to be in positions of power Because far too often there are like they said a lot of women out there But sadly they won't be given the positions of power because the men are withholding it. Yeah And I feel like the mali element industry does actually a very good job because they Have we've always said always have focused at least in our eyes More on the content than anything. Yeah That's it's very evident in the work and they also don't have a lot of the mass success in terms of like Which is crazy because I think they've made some of the best films. We've seen out of India. They really have But in terms of like the pan india success they haven't had as much as the other industries No, india or the tamalu to lugo canada now obviously And I know not yet. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I think We saw an interview with pravathi was it that said this he said we're we're going to get in a panel Yeah, he did like I have no doubt that we're going to get it absolutely And I think with the success that mali um hasn't the fact that everybody now knows that That industry makes great stories. I know the fact that The battle of bras wasn't like one of the biggest films pan india right s s's right of the years insane to me Or jai jai jai. Hey, you know, I know like in especially in kerala Very successful all of them. But um, the fact that they're not like these pan india successes. Yeah With such great stories great acting great And just entertaining films. Yeah, uh, but they're I feel like they're gonna get there and the majority of people here Do think the way we did prior to january of 2019 We assumed actually way past that. Yeah, we we assumed for all of our lives That indian cinema was called bollywood. We had no idea there was more than one industry and we assumed everybody in india spoke hindi Yep, it's it's an ignorance thing because it's just ignorance hungarians speak Some language Swedish speak Sweden the italian speak italian like I was saying before it's it's not common for us Especially with anything we see in the west Because it is opposite size of the planet and anything, you know Neighbors to india We know that the chinese speak chinese, but most americans just think about two versions of chinese. That's all don't they speak mandarin Yeah, they don't they don't they don't under the japanese. What do they speak? Japanese, what do germans speak german? So what do the irish speak i don't irish, um, are they speaking? I feel like gay lick. I know Oh, that's a gay lick. Yeah, it is perfect But it's just ignorance that everyone i've ever encountered there isn't one person I've encountered over the last five years Who had the same misconceptions we do born out of ignorance that when shone didn't go Oh, I didn't know that and changed it. Nobody goes now. I'm calling it hindi. It's funny Remember my film club was a while ago if you saw our panel a discussion of rr when I made them all go see it in theaters and they all loved it obviously, but um It's somebody had and I I I'd shown them any indian films and I've talked to them about it and the fact that there's different industries and that This is not a bollywood film right and one of them after the film one of the friends asked So how was that bollywood film film and he said bollywood that's not bollywood So you can teach people and they can and they can teach other people And you know what else will help is when places like netflix don't dub to lugu films With hindi and make it the primary selection on their platform English or stupid idiots That doesn't help quite infuriating when that happens. Yeah, uh anyways great panel As always, uh, let us know what other Um panels give us more interviews we should react to and also for these four directors here and actors What should be their next film? So we have a whole bunch of money rotten them stuff to get to Basil joseph I think is a very talented actor and director agreed Or shetty as well. I know he is um new films coming out So for all of them and that other one I told you we will watch out of that domo film I can't pronounce the name of it I've heard a lot of good stuff about it though. Um, so I can't pronounce it either. Uh, let us know down below