 Welcome. Thanks all for coming. I think this is the most attended AGM that we've had in quite a few years. I'm going to go, there's like, I don't know, 500 people in the room. It's awesome. So, yeah, I mean, what we did this year is we decided to hold it in the middle of the week rather than the end so that people weren't preparing to fly home instead. We'll try and keep this short and sweet since I was guessing a whole heap of you want to go into the PDNS. And I'll let Terry move on with the program. Thank you. Okay, I'm not sure how many of you have had a chance to read the copy of the minutes from the last meeting. I'm presuming some of you will have pre-read it. Next on the agenda is basically to confirm the minutes of the 2010 AGM. I think a show of hands is probably going to work. So the motion that the membership accept the minutes of the 2010 AGM is accurate. A show of hands for yes. All right. A show of hands for no. All right, that looks carried unanimously except for those that abstained. That's right. Yeah, it's more than a quorum, thanks. All right, so the next item is the 2010 office bearers reports. This time I'd like to call on John Felido for the president's report. Thanks. Thank you. So I sent an email to the Linux Auslist earlier today with a very, very, very long president's report. I will go through it very quickly. Jump in with questions. Let's leave questions to the end. So initially I wasn't president. Of course, as most of you will know, James Turnbull was originally elected as president and resigned in May-ish due to finding employment with puppet labs in Portland. So at that stage the council decided to move me into the president's role and then we appointed Josh to treasurer. So actually let me skip back a second. So yeah, it was late in December of 09. I approached James and a couple of others to see if we'd like to run for election to Linux Australia Council. We ran on a platform of all things of transparency, governance, mandate, leadership and advocacy community and trying to be cross-regional. I don't think we've met all of those goals, but we haven't done too bad a job. I think that we've covered a few events and tried to put some policies in place around those sorts of things. But I think there's a lot more that we'd like to achieve in the coming year. The council aimed to meet every fortnight, which we didn't do too badly on. We had 25 telephone conferences, two circular resolutions and we had two face-to-face meetings with the council where we all got all together in Sydney. I think one in May and one in August from memory. So LinuxConf 2011. I think I said a lot about how the council feels at the opening of the conference. The team this year have done an amazing job. It's been great working with the team over the last year. It's been pretty easy to work with. I'd like to thank Josh Hesketh, our treasurer. He was the liaison for the 2011 team and would basically give us most of the reports of the council meetings as to what they were up to. They've done an amazing job in moving the venue at such short notice. I think from being at the conference, you don't really notice that all that upheaval has happened. It just feels like an absolutely normal LCA. There's a foal that will even be making a profit this year, which is pretty amazing considering all the extra expenses. Now, Linux Australia also expanded the conferences that we support this year. We had a couple of requests from a couple of other smaller people that wanted to put conferences on, mainly coming to us for insurance. Due to some insurance stuff that we had later on, we sort of said to them, how about you run this as a Linux Australia conference. It provides you things like insurance and financial support and a lot of other admin tasks that they wouldn't have to deal with. PyCon AU 2010 was run in... Tim, when was PyCon? July. July? Yeah. That was a pretty good sense. I heard a lot of good stuff. There was a lot of good things on the Twitterverse about it. Thanks to Tim and the rest of the team. Neil, Davenport and Richard Jones. They did a pretty amazing job. From the council's point of view, we sort of gave them a bank account and they just ran with it and did an excellent job. They'll be running the conference again in 2011 and they'll be a new team in 2012. They are doing a schedule of running the conference two years in a row and all the teams that take that on will run that two years in a row in the same city just aiming to get some economies of scale. We're trying to do that with all the other conferences as well, where it makes sense. The conference that just ran before LCA was dribbled down under 2011. Pete was the liaison for that, so I'm not sure... Who ran it, Pete? Pete. And that went pretty well. I wasn't there. And from our point of view, I think that went even easier than PyCon. We hardly knew what was happening. Magic just happened. So yeah, thanks very much to them for running that conference. We had a couple of submissions early in the year. We went and did site visits in October and we'll have an announcement on who won the 2012 process at the end of Flinks ConfairU on Friday at the closing. We've kicked off the start of a media subcommittee this year. We're also kicking off a sponsor subcommittee. That was around us trying to... I do stuff in terms of Linux Australia so that we can get some sponsorship work out there and some media work out there, but more importantly for conferences and other subcommittees to pull some of the work back. Currently for most of the conferences that we run, there's a lot of duplication from year to year and not enough knowledge transfer. So we've been doing some work to try and pull a lot of that work back into Linux Australia so that the conference organisers can concentrate on the important stuff about running the conference, which is the venue, the vibe, making sure things run smoothly and not have to worry so much about the more administrative bits. Same sort of thing with the ZooKeeper subcommittee. Now with 2011, this is the fifth conference, I think, that's used ZooKeeper and knowing who's got the bid next year, they're most likely to use ZooKeeper as well, which from previous to 2007, the conference management system changed every one to two years. So I think it's a good investment that we've made there and having the hack fest every year and getting those improvements into ZooKeeper. And hopefully some of the other conferences will start taking that up. It's a fully open source project up on Launchpad and we've had a little bit of interest from some other conferences there as well. The Linux Australia membership survey. That was James Turnbull's baby and he kicked that off before he left. We've not done a good job of following through on that. Why finally got all the stats together for that done last week and I'll be putting it up either tonight or tomorrow. We're basically putting up the raw stats, the whole of the CSV files and hoping that community will take that away and do some analysis. It's very raw data, just percentages for the answers to each questions plus anonymized comments. If you look at the data and you want something more specific, like, you know, what percentage of people that are Linux also use Red Hat or something like that, then if we don't think it's a major privacy issue, we can run some manual queries and get that data to you. Linux did fill in the survey three times. It's quite impressive. That was the membership survey. We also did some work with the Australian Treasury Department this year. They launched a project called Standard Business Reporting, the SBR, which is a way for businesses to interact with government in an electronic basis, for example, filing your BAS, filing an employment declaration. Part of that project is also, I think, called Auskey, which is what businesses now use to authenticate with the ATO to file their BAS. There was a bit of press earlier on in the year how there wasn't any Linux or open source support. We did some work with them. I actually flew down to Canberra to do some testing for the Auskey stuff. That got released early November, so we've now got Auskey support for Linux. I've seen some other people get it working on other distros pretty easily. I'm working with them on getting a C version of the SBR API. It probably won't be open sourced initially, but we're working towards that process. I mentioned earlier that we did some conferences. We're also supporting some other conferences later on in the year. We've got WordCamp 2011 in about five or six weeks that we're supporting. We now run four conferences, Linux.com for you, WordCamp, PyQuin.au and Drip or Down Under. As we make sense, we'll probably do some others as we go forward. A lot of work was done in terms of banking, financials and insurance at the start of the year. We moved to an online accounting system, 0.com, which Josh will talk a little bit about later. That's massively streamlined how we do all the financial stuff and has made a lot of that process a lot easier. We also did a lot of cleanup on the bank accounts. Working with Westpac has been interesting, as Terry no doubt knows from having to do it in past years. We think we know who all the signatories are on the account and have convinced the bank that those are the only signatories and that people like Pierre can't walk into the bank and take all the money out. We thought that too. Yes. We've also simplified the process in which we can give people access to the bank account. In terms of running the conferences and some of the subcommittees, it's now really easy for us to set up a new community account which doesn't cost us anything and say to the conference organisers, here's your bank account, here's your login to zero, do all the financials, do all your expense claims and then finish off the conference and it's much easier for us to do reporting. I did a lot of work on insurance at the start of the year. We found that we had a couple of gaps in what we were insured for. We've now got volunteers insurance, so all the volunteers at conferences and various events that we run are insured because of the distinction between volunteers and employees and we don't have any employees. So that was fairly important. We've got the standard business insurance, PLMPI, as well as some association insurance which protects the council members in case someone decides to sue us for some crazy reason. We looked at invent insurance and in hindsight, it may have been a wise decision to take event insurance, so we'll be looking at that a little bit more closely in the next couple of weeks. General admin stuff, I'll skip. We closed down the storage set in Tasmania and did some stuff with it, left over Schwag for Software Freedom Day. We've done a lot of policy work. We haven't released much of it yet. Most of it's still in a draft stage. We've been working on stuff like an expenses policy, diversity policy, harassment policy along with some thanks to Valorora helped out with that. We've also put some documentation in place around the Linux Conf.AU bid process. The financial accounts, lugs of subcommittees and conferences of subcommittees. We're trying to put some more documentation in place so we've got more knowledge transfer as well as... We're trying to aim to do that with the conferences as well, so we've got more knowledge transfer between Linux Conf.AU events. In very exciting news, we now own Linux.Conf.AU. You probably will have seen there was an AUDA process to decide what to do with the Conf.AU domain. In, I think, December, if November-ish, they came out with a report saying that they only can the domains. We...there was a public consultation form that you could go and fill on the web. We encouraged people to do that. The final report came down saying that they were getting rid of the domain, but they were going to grandfatherlinux.conf.AU to us that we've got a perpetuity. That's still in process. It's not finalised yet, but we definitely should get that. I'd like to definitely thank Steve Walsh for that. He's put in a lot of work over the last couple of years, A, with that process through AUDA and petitioning them to get that stuff done, and B, just going through the pain that it is every year to get that domain organised. Thanks, Steve. Linux User Groups. Linux Australia tries to do what it can to support the user groups. Alex Boxall, I'd like to thank, she was the Lugcoms liaison during the year and attended the Lugcoms monthly meetings to see what the user groups were doing, what they were after, and if we could help them with anything. As part of that, we're now offering some resources to user groups. Lugs that don't have the resources to set up their own infrastructure can come to us and we'll give them a subdomain, a wiki, a website, and a mailing list and DNS or any of the above. We're also doing some policy work around Lugs being able to become subcommittees of Linux Australia. So similar to how the conference is run, it would mean that a Lug exists as part of Linux Australia, which means we can give them insurance and can give them a bank account and do their bays and all that sort of stuff, so that's still in process and we've had a little bit of interest from some of the Lugs in doing that because it saves them some money. The grant scheme. Every year, Linux Australia budgets about $20,000 in terms of grants. I don't think we've ever come anywhere close to reaching that budget. We don't tend to get a lot of grants. This year we gave grants to a store at the Sydney Education Expo, Software Freedom Day in Canberra, Software Freedom Day in Melbourne. The paper by Brendan Scott on... I can't remember, but it's in... Trade Practices Act applying to licensing. Thanks, Michael. And we sponsored the Libra Graphics Meeting in Brussels. Thank you, Donna. We sponsored them, I think, on the basis that they would try and get an Australian out there. And they did get... They flew out Andy? Yeah. Yeah, they flew out Andy for Simmons. So, yeah, if you have any ideas about what we could be doing in terms of the grant scheme or have some ideas for a grants please go onto the website and check out the program and apply because we just don't end up filling the budget every year. And that's part of what the profits that we get from the conferences is supposed to go towards. As I mentioned, we have the Sydney Education Expo, Patrick Elliott-Branden did an excellent job of running that. We had some support there from LPC Australia. They sponsored part of the stand as well as being on the stand with us thanks to Shridha from LPC Australia for that assistance. Software Freedom Day was in September as usual and we had a couple of teams around Australia participating and in particular the Canberra and Melbourne teams received sponsorship. We also gave teams that requested it, which was in Canberra, Melbourne and Adelaide. We gave leftover swag from Tasmania which was a whole heap of tusses and playing cards and stuff to give out on the day. It was costing us more in storage every month than was worth to keep the stuff. In closing, I'd like to thank the other council members. They've done a great job in supporting me throughout the year. They put in a lot of work. It's a lot more work than you expect it to be when you get onto the council but it's fun and it's very satisfying. I'd also like to support the volunteers, especially the volunteers at LCA. They do an amazing job and all the other conferences and the organisers of those conferences who put in a lot of their free time to make those open source conferences work. Lastly, I'd just like to give the LCA team another big round of applause. I think it's been an amazing conference and unbelievable circumstances. I'd now like to call on Joshua Hesketh to present the Treasurer's Report. Thanks, Terry. This is more of a summary than a Treasurer's Report. I'm just going to explain where Linux Chatter is with their finances and what was done in the past year. As John said, I joined the council halfway through officially in June but I was involved a bit before then. By this point, John had already done a lot of transition into new software, as he had mentioned, into Xero, which has been an excellent tool for us to use. It's allowed us to do a lot more as a council because it's taken away a lot of headaches in our operations. As John already touched on, this allowed us to give events and subcommittees access to their finances so they can make payments and do the invoicing and reconciling and everything themselves. So that's less weight on my shoulders, which is always nice. And it also meant that they could get payments as they need them, reimbursements and things like that were really quick. For example, I don't think anyone was ever waiting for more than 48 hours to have a reimbursement, which previously anyone who's volunteered to be involved in Linux Australia or a council will attest to the financial burden sometimes asked by volunteers in terms of reimbursements. So I think that's very important because it means that we can be more active as a community in that regard. So another thing to relieve some of the pressure on the council for this year and future years we're hoping is that we have contracted an accountant. And this is partly the reason why I'm not presenting the Charter Support at the moment because the accountants are still going through and fixing up last year's finance. And as you can imagine, it is only one month into the new year so they have no much time to do that. I believe they're working on Monday just past so we're hoping it's not too far away. Additionally, as of I think July, it's now mandatory for us as an association in New South Wales to have an official audit. And accountants means that they can tidy up our accounts and liais and assist with that in addition to filing our BAS statements and taking care of the official documentation that otherwise provides quite a headache for the council. So that explains primarily why we don't have a Treasurer's Report at the moment. What this means is that in the next month or two, hopefully not any longer, we'll present an official report for the Treasurer's position and we will call a special general meeting at some point to approve that and we're hoping that there will only be one item on that agenda. So I'll show now if I may use John's laptop. I'll show now some of the reports that we have from... How's this work? The mouse a little bit. There it is. Can you open job boxes? So what I'll do is I'll show the reports from last year that we have. They are likely to change a little bit, hopefully not too much. As a result of moving into new financial software, it does mean that it's difficult for us to compare amounts or cash flow profit and loss from 2010 to previous years. So the profit and loss becomes more an indication of a balance or cash flow, which you'll see in a minute. Preliminary reports, please. Where did it go? Council. Did it not sink, maybe? Possibly. It will be on my laptop if it's not... Is it not in financials? 2010, there we go. And then preliminary reports. So let's just start with a balance sheet. If you can put that on the table. So here you can see our balance sheet. So this is of December 31st, end of last year. It's basically just a summary of our assets as per bank accounts. Is that readable? Very well. Can we zoom in a little bit? That's a good question. Excellent. So it should give an indication of where we stand financially. So from... I think the bottom line is about 338 once John scrolls down. Because we have a few outstanding liabilities that are being taken care of. This is not a very good figure because in January we've run Drupal Down Under and Linux Conf clearly. Their major expenses have been this month and so that's taken a huge difference in that number. So this number is for last year, but it is quite different already. I believe it would be more around 280. Clearly we're only, you know, 26 days in. We haven't reconciled that amount yet. So that's where we stand in terms of balances. Could we have a look at the cash flow, please? One or two. The first one, that one. So this is a cash flow for all of... Oh, this is just LCA 2011 as opposed to all of Linux Australia. So the beauty of using zero means that we can generate cash flows for our subcommittees. I'm only going to show you LCA and our LA finances today. There's not a lot to look at. You can see that registrations open this September. It's where we start getting cash flow. Actually it must be October where we start getting cash flow for confidence registrations. And leading up to there we've had cash flow for sponsorship. If you look at our expenses, you can see where money is going. Merchant Dyson Swag are big ones, but there's clearly some other really big ones that are missing, such as the venue, which would probably be one of the bigger expenses, and other expenses that will be incurred this month. So again, this summary is a little bit preliminary in that sense. Can we move to the next cash flow, please? Next one? So next cash flow will be a summary of all of Linux Australia's expenses, which is inclusive of LCA. So you can see again where the sales came in in October for LCA. We started having more money, which was nice. But you can also see where PICON's registrations came in. There's an overlapping registrations here for DRIPPER Down Under as well, which also explains some of the extra sponsorship money. Again, they experienced expenses in January, so this is yet to all change. What I'll do is I will show a summary of 2010s accounts that Andrew Ruthven put together for us. Because this is mostly finalised now, however, we only have the report up to July, and Andrew hopes to publish something more final very soon. This just gives you an idea of where money goes. Leave a cross. This just gives you an idea of where money goes in running Linux Australia. And that's gone because of having fun there. Unmaximise it. Okay. There we go. In also 2010, Andrew and his team took the opportunity to reconcile some of the outstanding tax bills that Linux Australia had due to difficulties with managing money in New Zealand. So I think Andrew deserves a lot of thanks for his work he put in there, and we're certainly very thankful for it. So you can read where the money went yourselves. We imagine that the categories that the money's gone into will be similar this year for 2011, so that will give you an idea of where it will be when we publish those reports. You probably won't see a good summary of 2011 until next year though. That's sort of the way it will have to go. The interesting thing is that we've left about $10,000. I'm not sure there's that figure at the moment. That's $10,000 in New Zealand dollars. In New Zealand, in an ANZ account, that Andrew is managing for us, so thanks to him again for that. And that money allows us to reimburse people who are involved in our membership in New Zealand. So when we fly people over for ghosts or zookeeper hackfests, we don't have to worry about dealing with international currencies. It saves us a couple of hundred dollars a year in transfer fees and exchange rate fees and stuff. So that's just another thing that we've set up this year that will hopefully facilitate managing links to Australia easier. Can we have a look at the last document, please? Profit and loss. Okay, so this is a profit and loss, but as I said, because of the new financial software, it doesn't compare it to previous years. However, it does give us an indication of the balances between the different conferences we have ran, which is a little bit interesting. So you can see Drew put down under turned over a profit of $33, which is in December, remember. They've experienced their largest bills this month, and I believe they're probably looking at a profit of $8,000, which for a conference of 160 people that only just started is quite excellent. So we are hoping that this year we can put some of this money back into the Drupal community in that regard. It's the same sense of pike on that figure is quite high. That's just income. If you go down, sorry, the bottom line, Drupal though is still about the same. That's why I was confused, because the expenses have only just come in, but you can see here, a pike on turned a profit of $7,000. So again, that will go into running the next year's Python conference, and so this year's Python conference, and the Python community, we're hoping. And you can also see where we're tracking for LCA, but again, a lot of expenses have come through. I'm not sure what we're expecting in a profit for this year. Given the situation they're in, it's quite difficult to predict. So we can see that Linux Australia has clearly spent a lot more money than they've earned. The only real money that Linux Australia earns is on interest on their accounts, which is fine. We're supported by the conferences. But it gives you an idea of how the conferences support Linux Australia. And I think that's important to note that by coming to these conferences, the community just make Linux Australia who in turn give it back through things like Software Freedom Day and that sort of thing. So I think that's all the reports I have to show for now. These are very preliminary. So I'll have something better in a month or two once we have accountants review everything for us. And we'll have to call an SGM then. So finally, I would just like to thank the treasurers of all the subcommittees who have been involved. Because as I said, giving them access to zero means they can manage a lot of this themselves. So there's a lot less weight in my shoulders. And it means that my role is more making sure they're okay and helping them in that process, which I have been documenting. So I have drafted a subcommittee policy and a financial guide policy that we will be reviewing as a council and amending and hopefully have some good documentation in place. We have a finalised expense policy that's available on the Council Wiki if anyone wants to look into that. And the only other point I'd like to make is that the 2012 team in Perth already... I mean, the 2012 team already have their money in their account. So I think this is the first time that any LCA team has gotten money in the year before the conference. So the year before the current conference, that is. Which I think is great. So thank you. Thanks, guys. The next item on the agenda was the presentation of financials. I think Josh has more than adequately explained why that won't be happening. So that brings us to the next item, which is endorsement of the... Well spotted. All right, yes, let's do that. All right, in that case, I'd like to put the motion that the reports be accepted. Correct. No, the President's was the only one... The President's was the only one presented. So I'd like to put the motion that the President's report be accepted. Show of hands for aye. Show of hands for noes. All right, carried unanimously. Thanks, John. That was a good point. The next item is the endorsement of the committee activities. Now, this is basically a vote of confidence in the activities of the committee and the strategic direction they've set and the activities that they've done in the past. I'd like to put the motion that the membership endorses the action of the 2010 Linux Australia Council. Show of hands for aye. Show of hands for noes. All right, yet again unanimous. Given that the agenda item six is the announcement of the results of the 2011 LA Council election, I'd like to suggest a round of applause for the 2010 Council or for the outgoing 2010 Council. It is hard work. They do it because they know why they do it, but there's no denying the level of effort involved. So it's always good to recognise it. I'd like to call on Stuart Smith as the returning officer to give us the announcement of the results for the 2011 LA Council election. And having written the election software, I assert it is free from bugs. There's one in the ECQ right now. Of course there is. Okay, this is a couple, but it works. So it seems to all gone smoothly again. Anyone who can actually design websites is welcome to make it pretty. I intentionally sock at it. So we have election results here. There are 73 members who voted in the election, which is on par for what it usually is. So it's a fairly decent turnout. If the case people don't know, voting is preferential. People can be elected to one position. And not more than one. People can stand from multiple positions and there is a position in the ordering committee members, which more than one person can be elected to. Therefore the code to computer is fun. Yeah, 50 bucks per person who can construct a single SQL query to compute that. Seriously. Cool. So president, surprisingly enough, the one person standing for president was elected, which was John. I assumed everyone had voted in the election. An overwhelming majority. These will all be visible on the website later. So, yeah, we have no idea what the organization would do if that was the other way around. So there's some great, let's hope that never happens in the whole algorithms. Yeah, Patch is welcome. Vice president, we had again, surprisingly the one person who stood for the position was elected. Congratulations, Alex. I'm not sure if that's an appropriate request. Funnily enough, the one person standing for secretary so a glutton for punishment usually. As I referred to it back in the day, Peter, congratulations. Another glutton for punishment. Massacism, as I referred to the position. Today, Treasurer, Josh, congratulations or commiserations, depending which way you want to put it. And we have the interesting position, which there was actually some competition around. So I won't ask for drum roll. You had that at the speakers, didn't you? Pardon? Who was standing? We had left here at the start, Mary, Michael, Kelly, Elspeth and James Assefi. And at the end, drum roll. Come on. I'm just going to let you do that until your hands hurt. Congratulations, Mary Gardner, Michael Carden and Kelly Yeo. So yes, congratulations all or commiserations as you'll find out it's a whole bunch of work. So I asked that everyone else who did not stand or did not elected do the brilliant thing of to help out where possible. You do not have to be elected to a position to do stuff for the organization. In fact, not being elected is an excellent way to actually be able to do things. So it's interesting the way it goes around of all the formal things to the organization. So that's my strong encouragement as a past president as well. So thank you and good luck with the coming year. New council. Okay, now we're up to general business. I guess to kick off, are there any questions? Does anybody have any questions they'd like to put to council? And the only thing I wanted to thank Elspeth who's an outgoing member of the council for her work throughout the year was much appreciated. Thank you. And I'll raise one quick bit of business which is the LCA 2013 bid process. We now have two competing teams putting in bids. We have the Canberra team who we've seen blogging and making it very obvious that they're putting in a bid. And earlier this evening this afternoon I saw a bid on Twitter from the Antarctic team. Does Pia know about that bid? No. It's just me and Poe. So I highly encourage... Is anyone thinking of putting in a bid apart from those locations? Yes, Sydney? Newcastle. Newcastle, okay, potential Newcastle bid. So if anyone's thinking of in Newcastle... Have a chat. Anyone else? Who have which? Okay, Antarctic is waiting until 2014. They were intimidated by the Canberra bid? Right, okay. And I have heard rumours of... I have heard rumours of a Sydney bid, but... I don't want to say they're in the head of a penguin. Okay, I'll be a runner. Does this mic work? Okay, running. Any questions? Mr. Steele has a question. Two questions. As a member of the mirror subcommittee... Yes. Has any consideration been given to these other events that we sponsor encouraging them if they have video to provide it to the mirror? No, but that's an excellent idea. Can you please do that? Yes. I'd be cool with it being a condition of funding or something. No, I think that's a great idea. I think... So one of the things that's happening at the moment is I think most of our subcommittees are sort of working in isolation and we don't have any... I mean, we've never sent us a report. We've got no reporting or anything like that. That's because we don't do anything, but it's okay. Yeah, exactly. That's my second question. Now, the hardware is aging. Is there any plan to do a hardware refresh of the various L.A. services? There is. Can you send through a list of what you would require? Because we're actually looking at the hardware sponsorship at the moment. Cool. Yeah, not a problem. Yeah, the subcommittees do a report every year. I'm going to... Yeah, no, we haven't. Yeah, we do have... There was another mic floating around somewhere. I have a 10-second one. Give me a second. More following and communication with the teams. One thing that came up post-OSDC last year and I'm trying to follow up with both OSD and Linux Strayer and I kind of got distracted by doing LCA 2009 video in 2011 is having somewhat more... for network specifically, actually having infrastructure that we can just roll up to the conference as plug-in to uplink and have a conference network that doesn't require Steve, James, myself, any other dozen people who've probably done it to not sleep for three straight days. Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree. So one of the things that we're doing... I almost said the name of the people that won the bid. One of the things we're doing with the next bid team is encouraging them to use a Linux Australia wiki and a Linux Australia server and a Linux Australia zookeeper instance so that... We've had a problem where for the last... Since I've been involved in 2007, while there's always a really good intention to pass on knowledge and wikis from team to team to team, by the time the teams finish the conference they just don't have the energy and the wikis just never get passed on. So we're going to try and fix that by moving... Moving as much as that stupid and administrative sysadmin infrastructure stuff in the house to Linux Australia as possible, like sponsorship teams, media, all that sort of stuff to help with that. So yeah, any work you're interested in doing on that as I said earlier, talk to Steve. As I recover from the conference and actually get to build a prototype I will be grabbing James and Steve Welsh and other people as we happen to be in similar cities and actually trying to nut this out in a way that hopefully... I'm actually not planning something that will work as such for LCA but for all the other conferences and it might help LCA. So we have been shipping APs around to Dribble Down Under and OSTC and other places and it seems to have worked okay but more documentation the better. Before James, Josh you had a response to something? Yeah, it's a bit of a response to both of those things. In terms of admin team and that sort of thing is that the subcommittee policy that I've written there's actually... I've written two policies it covers subcommittees and teams which would include admin team and I'd like to encourage Julian and Co to form a networking team under this policy that I've written. That would be cool. And things such as network upgrades, so new networking equipment and server upgrades and things like that. There are ways in this policy to deal with expenses like that and liaising towards the council. And the other thing that I think Pia mentioned or somebody on reporting is that part of the new policies that I've written will require these teams to report on a regular basis, whether it be fortnightly for LinuxConf or once a year for the mirror team or that sort of thing. James? Sort of following on from that LCA has a bunch of equipment that has been bought for this year to deal with certain things like AV and other bits and pieces like that that we fully intend and will ensure is passed on to the next year and is used. I mean that equipment's actually been well apart from where is the ship that has the Wellington equipment right now pass on of equipment from year to year's been fairly good. So do we know where that is yet? It's in Sydney still on a ship. Run faster Pia. In light of the new auditing obligations. Yes. Has any consideration been given to moving the financial year so that this port could be submitted at the AGM? Yes. We have thought about that. I think we're in a bit of a mess and this year in terms of it being the first year that we've used zero. I think in future years and if reconciliation is done in December I think there's probably enough time to do an audit before the AGM but yeah I'm going to I think I'll sit down with Josh and we'll think about that because it is tight. I mean you know the financial year ends in December I mean like the third or fourth week of February sorry of January and the other thing with it having it on that sort of ratio it means that at the AGM we want to report on LCA like you know this year we want to report on LCA 2011 but you can't because it's like halfway through whereas if it was a month or two later most of the expenses get tidied up and you can give an accurate report so yeah I think we might have a think of it and potentially vote on it at the SGM where we provide the documentation. If I remember correctly from reading through the new association's legislation a couple of weeks ago there's actually a requirement that the audited report be presented at the AGM obviously couldn't do it this year because the new legislation's only just come in and we haven't had time to adjust but I think we need to make sure that does happen as a legislative requirement in future. Yes, absolutely and Josh gave the Fair Trading Association a couple of calls we might give them another call and say do we need to rename this to an SGM and call the other one an AGM or do they care or not care and yeah we'll sort that out. Anyone else? Any other questions? In the middle? I'm Al Oster, I'm on a committee of a Logue and I'm just wondering Lokes can sometimes run themselves, own infrastructure, sometimes they can't that's been addressed but the question I have is things that aren't necessarily just a Logue activity, like maybe Software Freedom Day, is there any proposals for that to be partially coordinated by the council on a national basis? Are you volunteering to do that? No, but I think... So as with most things, that's a great idea but it comes down to someone having the time to do the coordination and sit down. I mean, Pia did a great job with that when she was president of Linux in...what was...what were you president? Software Freedom International but it's a time thing. I mean, one of the interesting things about our community is the people like myself and the rest of the people on the committee that stand up and say we're going to do this are usually the busiest people in our community so anyone that's prepared to say hey I think that's a great idea step up and we're going to do it and go for it and we'll fully support that in terms of funding and whatever's required. In the absence of someone putting themselves forward for that would you be able to poll the membership of Linux Australia and ask them is Software Freedom Day important enough that you would want to see Linux Australia funds going towards coordinating that? Yes, that's possibly an option. Thanks. Any other questions? Donna? Michael? Sorry to be a serial offender. Yes. So it seems like LA has a lot of physical assets now. We've got container ships floating around with stuff. How much money are we talking about? Is it time to start talking about asset tracking or is that just like too only retentive? In terms of what I know roughly exists in terms of what's on a ship somewhere in the Tasman or if that's right it's like five or six tubs worth of stuff. There's some semi-expensive things we've been given like sponsorship, like there's an A1 printer and some other things. It probably would be good to have a list of assets and I think we can we do that in zero? I think there's an asset to a degree. Yeah, yeah. So a lot of stuff we're leasing and yes, you're right and we probably should do that but it's like it's a small enough list of things to fit on a wiki page. As someone who's inventoryed pretty much the complete XLCA assets at least probably three times in and around LCA08 it is wiki page material having the list in one place or at least a place for location because some of that information is incredibly pain in the ass to deal with it sometimes and knowing certainly the ability for someone to know I've got five streams but it turns out that if we want to do video like 2008 did we've only got four sets of gear that still works that sort of thing or we need to go and buy something so that wiki page should be enough and should cover most things and is probably needed. There's also a couple of oddball cases like I have in my house the what remains of the entire video assets of LCA 2008 and 2009 which will eventually make it back to the LA storage with the same fact that was sitting in Steve Walsh's house for a year and while it's true the LA committee almost certainly know where it is and know where we live it's somewhat sub-ideal. From an LCA point of view just helped to organize one it's very important to know what the hell we have and it's been hard to get that information when we needed it so we were trying to work out exactly what was where in terms of networking equipment, printers, APs whatever and just getting that sort of stuff has been harder than we would have liked is that we will see what we can do seems to be hearing volunteers yes so as I heard someone say earlier in the conference well volunteered James Paul yes following on from this morning's keynote talk I note having just tried it that linux.org.au doesn't have an IP version 6 name what's the state of the linux.org are you IP version 6 readiness hang on there's Mike due to a configuration error at the hosting facility we did in fact have IPv6 connectivity about a month or two ago for the period of about a week so being worked on I think is the answer to that I will hassle the admin team about IPv6 any other James I was wanting to ask going on from your question earlier about infrastructure and so forth is it worthwhile linux Australia moving away from physical infrastructure where it is saying and instead using things like not cloud computing virtual machines and so forth where we don't have to deal with the hardware as much that has been raised and the admin team to discuss that I don't know what the outcome was the point came up concerning things like the LCAVM dying in rather horrid ways that were very suboptimal things like that I would prefer if it was someone's problem other than linux Australia any other questions no one well what I'd love to encourage if people can think about the sorts of things and I think we've got a little bit of feedback from this out of the survey which hopefully we'll have out by the end of the week but if people can start thinking about we've got a pretty good turnout here so hopefully there's people here that care about what linux Australia is and does if you can think about what you want linux Australia to do it feels a little bit like we're starting to concentrate on running open source conferences I think I'd like to see us doing more than that if you have ideas of what a great idea for something that we could do that we shouldn't be doing more than happy to support and put funding behind that ignoring this year LCAVM usually makes a pretty good profit and we can put that money towards supporting the community that's sort of the whole point I'll hand back over to Terry to close the AGM thanks I declare the linux Australia 2011 AGM closed thank you everybody