 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique house, it's your boy E.C.O. and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Ms. Jamaica. What's going on? Nothing, you know my dad walk on. Man, hey man, we got a special guest in here today, man. He really don't need no introduction, man. If you're watching YouTube, man, you see Country Wayne, any of these other platforms, I even seen him. He look like he's on the news almost with us, he was at some magazine and all kind of stuff, man. Michael Anthony. Yes, sir. What's going on, man? What's up, man? What's up, family? Good to see you, man. Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. Yeah, man. So, I know the way we usually start, we got a little way that we start, man. We own, hey, make sure you guys like and subscribe to our channel, man. We trying to blow this thing up, man. I always say like the World Trade Center, but that's really blowing, you know what I'm saying? No, that's not a good example. You don't want to blow it like that. So, just tell us a little bit about yourself, man. Let's get into it, right? Yes, we want to take it way back, not just a little bit from a year ago. We need to take it way back as a child coming up. We want to know all of that. Oh, man. Oh, we going back to Akron, Ohio, Spring Hill, West Side, Akron, Ohio, Spring Hill Projects, right by Lebron J, same street. Really? Yep, East Avenue, same street. That's dope. That's dope, dope. I mean, I ain't going to say that. We weren't like best friends, but, you know, I definitely saw him, you know, I went to it. I went to it. I've been to his house before, not his house, but when they stayed in the project. Okay. Yeah, I've been over there before. Always just was just a different dude, you know. You already knew. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like, oh my God, like you knew, this dude is the only 18-year-old in the world. You can give $200 million to it. It ain't going to change him. Wow. Wow. And that's rare. Yeah. You know, when I was in elementary school, that impressed me, you know, like when you start dealing with the kids and trying to find ways to, you know, do something that's that impactful when you start dealing with trying to make sure that you place yourself in the midst of it. That's where it's at. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like everybody don't do that. Most people trying to find out something to try to push themselves up high, not to try to, you know. Jordan, Jordan. You knew I was going in it. Jordan. I am not a Jordan fan at all. Wow, why not? I am not. I'm always a Shaq and Kobe fan. Never a Jordan fan. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was a Jordan fan. There ain't going to lie to y'all. I was Jordan fan too. I'm not what I'm playing with y'all. I'm not what I'm playing with y'all. No, I was Jordan fan too, but you man LeBron, you know. I like the underdogs. I remember, okay, I went to a game with him, with his mom and my boy Dre back in the day. Shout out to Dre Gut and Glow. Went to the game with them. He was, I think he was a senior. Okay. And it was like, you know, everybody was there. And they had the ramps sitting with her, Nike, Jordan, and all them. How old was he then? He was 17. Okay, cool. High school senior. And I'm like, man, this dude watching him, I'm like, oh my God, I just do this. You know, after the game, we went back to a spot, me, Dre, and Glow. LeBron went to eat with the reps, you know. So he came to the house, this is not, this is why I will fight somebody in the bar above LeBron. He came to the house. He came in here like a stud. And I'm out here, they poor. Yeah. Yeah. He, you know, all these magazines, they live in Spring Hood projects. Yeah. Yeah. He come home and he has a styrofoam that has shrimp and stuff, you know, all the stuff he got from the fixings from the restaurant. He sat it down in front of his mom. He opened it up. It was full. It hadn't been touched. He went to the cabinet. He put out some oatmeal, instant oatmeal, put some water in it, heated up. He ate that. Wow. And I was like, he didn't, he ain't going to, she said he always do that when he gets, when they really give him something, he just bring it to me and he just eat what we got. Oh. That boy didn't stay humble, man. So from that point of, so that's why I get, I get personal. I don't Facebook. You should. I'll be like, y'all, hey, meet me at, meet me at my house. Nobody's meeting you, Mike. Mike, nobody's meeting you, bro. I didn't know you were this big, man. No, I ain't nobody meeting you, man. You don't have to worry about that. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a teddy bear, man. So have you always been this big growing up? I was always taller and I was big. I was fighting boys way older than me growing up. My mom is funny. She apologized to me. She was like, baby, I'm so sorry. You know, she was having me fighting these boys that she had no idea. It was like six or seven years older than me because I was the same size as them. But it helped me because, you know, she was my age. She had you fighting them. Oh, my mom was a gangster. My mom ain't playing no game. That sound like that movie I saw where the mama took, took him back out there and be like, no, you're going to fight. Come on, we're going to fight. That's her. No, she locked the door. Go out there and handle that. She ain't trying to hear it. And if you ever lost a fight, what would she do? Oh, I lost. I was losing all of them because they was, they were so stronger than me. We just was the same size. It was older, you know, but she would sit there. She told me, she said, she said, baby, because I was like, man, mom was cold. But she said, you know, I used to watch you get out there and just get your butt wet. But she said, I was just turning my face and cry and leave you out there because I knew, you know, you're a black man. So you had to deal with it. You had to deal with it. You had to endure. So where was daddy during all this time? He was in my life, but he was, he had moved to Ohio. They had got their divorce separated. He moved to Ohio. So she knew because she was a single mother. And how old were you when they got divorced? I was 10. 10? How did it affect you when he left? I think it, I think, I think divorce, now that I look back on it as an adult, I think it does affect how we view relationships, how we deal in relationships. But he was there. You know, I can't sit here and say, my father was definitely there. You know, he, he just had to go out there and get his, you know, get his stuff together and get a job and everything. Because he was, we was doing, we was doing bad, man. You know, it was, it was rough. But it made you into the person that you are today. Exactly. So you wouldn't trade it for nothing? I wouldn't trade it for nothing. I ain't, listen, my mom, my mom was a gangsta. And, but she taught me, you know, it was a balance. She was rare because, you know, she would teach love and integrity. And, but she just was like, you ain't even to be no punk. So, you know. You had brothers and sisters? A little sister. A little sister. So you're the only boy. I'm a boy, me. And so it was me, two boy cousins and like 20 girls. So he was always fighting. Like, well, when I would go to Ohio, my uncle Joe, shout out to uncle Joe. He's probably going to laugh and to see this, but he would have a list. Cause I, cause now I live in Buffalo. So when I would go to Ohio, he peeped me up from the, from the Greyhound bus station and say, all right, this boy did this to your cousin. He had a list. And I had to go fight these boys. It's a wonder you didn't end up being a boxer or something. How far? I did mix martial arts. You did? How old were you when you got into that? That was 2003. I was a Scambri County DT champion at Scambri County. So you didn't lose any more fights after that? Oh, I lost. When you win, you lose. See, people don't know about the mix martial arts fighting. You know, you win, but you still lose. How? You get, you beat up. Yeah, cause of the injuries. Yeah, when you block a punch, see people, when you watching on TV, if somebody block a punch or a kick, you're like, oh, he blocked it. But this feels hurt. Yeah, it hurts you. It hurts you. You know. That's going to tub of ice after you get done. Man, listen. So you, when you was young like that and coming up, you said the projects. And so how the projects up there was it like every other project when you hear Callio or when you hear about the projects here in Dallas, you know, whether it be over there at Bond Town 007 in the South or when you hear about stuff like when you go to Atlanta. Yeah, like in Vegas when we live, we live in Doolittle when I lived in Vegas. So how is it like for the projects where you were from? Uh, in New York, it was, you know, the buildings were high. So it was more condensed. I think that's what the violence was so different because it was like, you really couldn't get away from people. You know, it's like you're all in the building, you all live on top of each other. So you got these small stairwells and elevators and, you know, pretty bad. Pretty bad. The building I live in now, we got Concierre. Ain't no fight going on there, but you know, ain't no security is just, you know, you had to deal with your problems. I think it may, like I said, made me who I am today because you had to, it wasn't on running from it. You got to deal with it. You got a bully, you know, you're going to see him every day in the elevators. You're going to have to throw some salt in his eye and get him out the way. Yeah. Yeah, you got to work. You got to fight dirty. Yeah, yeah. I stayed in Vegas. I never forget it. I used to have to fight every day a lot of times in the projects because they were going to bring it. Every day you go outside, it's somebody looking to get to you and bring it. He was starting it though. Oh, yeah. She was after the beginning, y'all. Yeah. Go ahead and tell us this. You know, she was not there from the beginning. That was when she was young. I heard the stories. I know all of the stories. No, no, no. You look like a fight story. No, we just, yeah. When you basically, when you around all of these people, you know what I'm saying, you got to keep yourself amused some kind of way to see me. He was the bully. I was the bully, absolutely. You know who the bully was. Not a bully. Not a bully. Just always trying to figure out who was tripping in the neighborhood. Here's this metal zone. Yeah. You know what that's about. So most of my fights, when I was younger, all of my fights about me, always because I was kind of like Chris Rock. I was saying the wrong joke. I would like mess with people. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't mean to harm. But, you know, I wouldn't mess with you. Damn, if you get mad and say, you threaten me, I'm like, what's up? I got to get it. You got to get it. As you talk about it, Chris Rock, because I was going to event, he brought it up. So I'm going to go ahead and tackle it right now. So what are your views on what happened at the Oscars with Chris Rock and Will Smith? Wait a minute. I don't want to ask him like that because I heard his views. I went on his Instagram. But I understood what he was saying and your perception of it. But I don't know what he said. I know we're about to get into it, but it just was funny to me how you broke it down. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what? Okay, go ahead. So being an actor has taught me to be a more empathetic person. Okay. That's right. When I saw my mom transitioning with the heaven, I went through this phase of life where I was like kind of mad at God, you know, because I didn't realize that death is a misunderstood reality. So I had separate. You can't separate from God, first of all. You think you can, you know, but you can't. But I went on this, you know, I just was like, ah, I wasn't praying. I want to do nothing. And then once I got back, it came back to life and really, I went on this spiritual journey across the world, you know, I just became more empathetic and realized that men, it's, it's everybody has a lens they're looking through. Exactly. You know, it makes me treat my woman different because I understand that this is a woman and she ain't supposed to look at it like I'm looking at it. You know, I'd have bought her this watch and $14,000 watch and this room, this cabin and took us a trip to here and do all this stuff. And then she said, baby, you didn't give me any flowers. And my mom, I was like, what the hell? You tell me flowers for a girl. That's a Cartier watch. But she don't care about that. That's, that's her lens. Right. So with all that being said, I looked through, I look at both guys. I am a, Wayne's turning me into a comedian. I've always been a comedian like a hood comedian. My partners thought I was funny in my family, but Wayne is cultivating me to becoming a real comedian where you go on stage and he's, I'm in training. Right. You know, he's got me into the skills as we all know and he's, I've always been funny, but he's like teaching me to put it out there and be confident and say, Hey, you know what? I'm a comedian. So even before that, I've always loved the art of comedy. Okay. Not this new shit. Yeah. I'm talking about the real comedy where you go up there, you say anything. The Patrice O'Neill's, the Corey Hockam's, the Phazon I love. Yeah. The Bernie Macs. The Bernie Macs, the DL Hughes. Yeah. Yeah. So that's real comedy. Comedy is, comedy is the thing that hurts. Or the thing that we don't, what do you want to say it? Because we know that, we know that lady is, we don't want to say fat. Yeah. Yeah. She being. Somebody might want to come in. But we know it. Mm-hmm. Like the picture of, I'm going to get the worst move, but the picture of the lady from the Me Too movement. Y'all know who she is? I think so. Go to your phone. Yeah. You know what she look like? Me Too movement. Who started the Me Too movement? Damn. Watch his face. I'm going to show you what comedy is. The Me Too movement. You both just said these are, oh damn. Now y'all see that? That's comedy. Okay. Wow. She said okay. But I'm a woman. It's different. See different lens. Now comedy is this. I took her picture and I was trying to prove a point to somebody. And I posted in my story as I said, this is the woman who started the Me Too movement. That's all I said. And a bunch of women came in my comments. It was like, you better not. Don't you dare. And I said, you know what I just did? All I said was, this is the woman that started the Me Too movement. And because you think she's unattractive, you try to push it on me. Comedy is the truth. Right? The truth that nobody want to say. So that's my job. That's the job. My job is to say the things that we all know, but we don't want to say it. Because if I'd have posted Beyonce and said, I started Me Too movement, they wouldn't say nothing. Nothing at all. So that's what the audience is that. Yes. The audience is people that say, that's not right. You shouldn't say that. And I'm the person that says, look at this motherfucker's face. That's a comedian. That's what makes Dave Chappelle. It makes you a superhero, right? Yeah. So I understand we're looking at Jada and she ball-headed. Right. It's not a big deal to be ball-headed. Nowadays it doesn't matter. She's beautiful. But Chris Rock was just trying to be funny. Exactly. He made fun of other people, right? Made fun of people. And that's a light joke. Now, here's the thing. What if she had cancer? This is the risk about comedy. What if she had cancer? Wow. You see what I'm saying? It's a risk. That's comedy is a very, you think rapping is, comedy is dangerous. Very dangerous. Because I got to just say it. If Wayne sees something, if we do a skit and not coming there and anything off, you know... That could offend somebody. No, no. He's going to say it. If I got a bump right... He's going to say it. He'll say don't have it for the skit. I'm going to say something. That's his job. That's what makes it special. That's a community. But anyway, so let's say that was the case, right? Really human being. Now, that wasn't the case. It was alopecia. Right. Here's what really happened. What really happened is and I'm about to go deep and I went on Instagram. Will Smith already said, man, since I was a kid, I always felt weak because I watched my mama get hit and I ain't doing nothing about it. Okay. I felt like a coward. He said that. Now, you fast forward. So that... Your woman... I can't see where you're going with it. Goes onto the red tabletop until late. We talking about this Will Smith. 30, 40 million dollars a movie. We looking... We like, oh, my God. So we can hide behind that a little bit. Then your woman come on and say, you know, I got this younger guy. My man don't even please me in bed no more. So now, let's just be honest. If LeBron James, if Savannah came, I said LeBron is six foot nine, 270 pounds, but he got to be in the sausage. I ain't calling the nigga King James no more. It's just kind of take... You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, LeBron gonna look... Oh, man. Right? Right. So now, Will's back into that space again. Wow. Watching his mama. Because now your wife is putting it to the world and everybody on them. Man, Will, you a sucker. Man, you a bitch. Man, you a hoe, man. This man from Philadelphia. Born and raised. Yeah. Born and raised. I spent most of my day. So it's something in there. You know what I'm saying? And he's an alpha because to get to that point, you got to be an alpha to get to that LeBron. Michael Jordan is something in you. Yeah. So now, here I am in front of the world. He's telling the jokes. And that's what we do. He's a celebrity. We laugh. And I look over and I see her reaction. She's hurt. My mama getting hit. What am I going to do? Because if he wouldn't slap him, we would have said, man, Will, the bitch, man, look at he talking about the wife of shit. She all sad. You laughing. Yeah. So it was like the pressure's on. I got this is very inappropriate. I didn't do it. I'd be the, I'd be the benign at the funeral one time. So I can't judge nobody. But this is inappropriate. But I got to go slap fire at this man. When I beat that man at the funeral, I knew it was inappropriate. But I said, I got a lot the door. I'm outside with the booty. I got to do this. So we was put into a position. So was it inappropriate? And then Will Packer is my man. That's my big bro. We'll pack it. Yeah. Yeah. So I felt bad. It happened on his day. Because he basically produced it. And it was a great guy. And I was like, damn. But I understand you can't put me in a, I don't care where we at. You know what I'm saying? And like I said, Chris Wright wasn't wrong. Yeah. He doing his job. He's a comedian. Comedians. Who the Wayne talk about all the time? His family. His family. His self. His self. And he being real like, I was with Wayne one time on the road, right? And we went to, he got a new baby mama. Went to her house. The lady came in there with the child's poor thing, 4,000. I had, I was one of the people that signed it saying we here. Showed her ID. And the girl was saying, I'm gonna sue you. They got to a little back and forth and this and that. And then we went to the show and that night he was like, hey y'all, the reason why this is the first city y'all, cause I find I got a baby mama here. So I come here and use this when that time's over. Everybody laughing. But I'm like, this is really, this is really happening. Right. That's comedy. But you see, when people take, when he tell a joke like that, people are looking at like, he not really see it. I think it's just a joke. It's serious. Yeah. Everything Wayne's on that stage is for real. But you got to understand and just, just tapping into what happened with Will again. I have a question about it. Do you think that Will should apologize? Um, he should apologize because he was wrong. But he was right. I know it's all crazy. It's all crazy. He was wrong technically because what he did, Aimee really had to do with Chris Rock. Yeah. So what I would say is Chris, man, listen, bro. You know how this world is we live in. I've done, I've been the perfect, I've been almost Jesus all this long. Yeah. He didn't even curse in the rap. I ain't even cursing my rap. It's Chris and everybody, my girl telling everybody I got a little thing. Yeah. She messing with August Alcina. My kids and they, I don't know what the hell they got going on and everybody clowning me. And you came at the wrong time, bro. I'm sorry. Is that how he's supposed to apologize right there? Yeah. All of them apologize. Oh God. Because it's like, it's not Chris Rock. No, it's not. It's not. All that, all that stuff I talked about, that was that. Because that's what a comedian's supposed to do. Yeah. And when I heard the, when I heard the joke, it wasn't this day's full because at the same time, he might not have known that she had alopecia. He didn't know. Right. So you couldn't really just blame him for something like that. At the end of the day, it happened. How do we pay? How are we going to move on? And Will was laughing. Will was laughing. We all smirked when he walked away. Well, he laughed. The smirk was. No, when he walked away, he slapped him. I seen that. But the smirk was, I beat the man to hit my mama. That's what it was. I did it. It was like, I'm a man. Because we have been tearing Will's masculinity down as a society. All the black folk out there that say he was wrong, we have been tearing Will down. Yeah. We have been tearing him down. But we know he slapped a dude one time. Pop, pop. Yeah, but he, yeah, but he, he said, I should have went on whooped his nigga. He slapped the pebbles out of Chris Rodney. Nigga said a lot of stuff when he ain't around. I wonder how he didn't end up on the ground. It wasn't that hard. I said, he should have been on the ground, bro. He should have been, he said. See, if he had popped him on the hook. See, he got popped on the side of his head. He didn't know. See, when you slap him right here. It's disgrace. And keep the hand open. See, he kept his hand. It's just a nice, it's a lie. It's a lie. It's just a pop. It's a warning. It's just a pop. It sounded really loud. It was not, it didn't hurt him. It's a shock. When you hear somebody like this with this, did you hear with these here? That's just a little, I'm going to let you know I really don't respect you. Yeah. When you hit him with all this, see them, see them calluses? Yeah. Put them calluses right here. And they're going to ring and everything. He ain't going to be able to talk no more. When you knock his head off his neck, the body will fall. How many times did you, because everybody did it? I watched it over and over again. How many times did you pause? I was like, yeah, I've seen Chris kind of lean into it. All of that. Because people were wanting, was the stage, was it fake, was it real? It was beautiful. I'm sorry. The form was beautiful. The form was beautiful because Will, see as a fighter, when he popped him, see, most people, they just throw this. Will had the hand up. If you watch it, watch it again. Oh. He popped it with, so that training, I said, ooh, Will could fight. Chris Lucky, he ain't trying to fight back. He whooped his ass. Yeah, well, that bring up another sub. Let me say this, that bring up another sub. That boy, Shannon Sharpe said, listen, Shannon Sharpe said it couldn't have been him. No. Because he said if he came up there and either hit him, he said, then he said, then he said, and every time I see him, it'll be on site. Yeah. But some of the different type of dude, that's Shannon Sharpe. You ain't even, first of all, you ain't going to try to slap Shannon Sharpe. And you got good sense. He's ready. He is that country boy. You ain't slapping no country boy across his face. I'm a country boy. I'm going to be honest with you, I'll get to you. You got to. Yeah, yeah, it's going to happen. If I see you, I can get to you. Everybody said that no. So why are you thinking that Chris then? It's Chris Rock. Chris Rock painting how to find a life. You ain't going to slap T.K. Kirkland. Yeah, T.K. Kirkland going to come over with it. You ain't going to slap Corey Holcomb. You is not going to slap Corey Holcomb. You ain't going to slap Dion Cole. I can say they won't. Dion Cole in the tub. He's from Chicago. You ain't slapping Dion Cole. You damn soon ain't slapping Mike Epps like that. Man, you damn soon ain't slapping with a flop. Oh, hell yeah. Chris Rock, no cuff in that world. But he does do a lot of talking. Like he really about that, you know, like he just, yeah, he don't mind. He don't talk. He don't talk like he was my ass. It really be the white crowd he trying to appeal to. But he speak up for us to the white crowd. Yeah. Chris Rock is like Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle ain't going to fight you. If you slap Dave Chappelle, the same shit would happen. Damn. I don't know what they're saying. They're brave. Like to me, Chris Rock is still, I still look at him, you know, who is hard? Anybody else? I don't know if I was to respect them. I do respect Chris Rock because I know who he is. Yeah. But what about, dude, what does this career go from, because I heard them teases in double now. Of course. I heard they went from $70 to $400. Of course. Because they know he going to talk about it. We want to hear him talk about it. He's going to be like that. He going to be like, he going to make it funny. Because that's what we do. And he not going to put it on social media or nothing. You're going to pay to come see it. He going to be like, after, that's a good thing about comedy. Comedians don't stand the dog house long like rappers do. You know, rappers got to be tough and all that shit. I used to be a rapper. Yeah, we're going to get into that. I love this life so much better. It's way better. It's better. I can just express, comedians are expressive. I don't got to wear it. No, that's stupid shit. You know what I'm saying? We can really talk about our real feelings. So when Chris talked about, he going to talk about how scared he was, how shocked he was, and it's going to be funny because funny is the truth. Like I said earlier, it's true. He ain't going to just tell everybody else it's true. He talked about him cheating on his wife. Yeah. Yeah. And he did. That's what comedy is. You know what I'm saying? So that's crazy. Here we are. Let me ask you about the rap. You brought it up a little bit. Yeah. Because I was like, I said, damn, he going in because at first I looked at it and I seen gunplay on there. I'm like, I'll even go in. You know, then when I listen to it, we start listening. I just let it play because it kept going after you bit it on the play. He's always about the ladies. Yeah. So what, how did you end up linking with gunplay? I was, I was trying to figure that you was hanging with Rick Rawls and gunplay and then I'm down there some kind of way. Nah. I was like the Nate Dogg of Florida. But I sang. So all the hooks with iceberg and briscoe and you know, I mean, anybody had something coming out time. G all the different Florida rappers, Papa Duck, you know, I was the guy that was giving hooks and, you know, thinking about the gangsters. Yeah. Yeah. How long did you do that? No. Because when I looked it was like in 2010 or something like that. So how long did you stay in there? I got signed in 2010 to slip and slide records. But before that, yeah, Lucas shot to my big moment to it. Lucas giving me and Julian and milk, all them guys down there. But yeah, that was my family. I signed with them in 2010. But I had been doing because I was hustling before that and I got a name in the state and they came up to Mobile. You know what I'm saying from Miami and I drove from Pensacola and performed in front of them in front of the crowd and it was like, oh yeah, fly down to Miami tomorrow. I flew down to Miami. But the contract at the time I was going to give him this contract and I'm like, a lot of much. As contractual. I ain't doing this shit. You did that on the skits. I was like, yeah, this ain't going to work. So I didn't sign. But then, you know, man, on my mom's transition I just like lost myself. And how old were you when she transitioned? 29. Yeah, I was about 23. 29. My place got both my business got repolled. My townhouse got I got evicted. I had like my credit score. Everything went cause I stopped living. You know what I'm saying? I was homeless before I knew it. And then when I called I was trying to get back on my feet trying to get back moving again once, you know, after about a year or two. And then the guy I called the DJ I called he was like, yo, DJ Smalls. Okay, yeah, DJ Smalls. Shout out to DJ Smalls. Shout out to DJ Smalls. He don't even know but that conversation we had he was like, he changed my life cause he was like, yo, I'm living in the 97 Toyota Corolla. I'm thinking I'm hiding in the city. I ain't got no damn money. I'm like, what's up, y'all? They're like, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, I needed to go into. No, I want to hear about Roy Jones, man. I'm a big Roy Jones fan. At his just pinnacle of where he was at, man, I'd have put him up against anybody in his weight class and I was going to ride with him. Here dawg, Roy is a different human being. I thought I was tough that month. Wasn't Roy Jones like Jamaican apart, Jamaican or something? Oh, here we go. We do this, man, in every episode. I wouldn't be surprised if he had Roy Jones. He'd put a rooster. He'd be hanging with the jigs. He'd put a rooster out again. There you go. I got some stories about Roy, man. Roy ain't no punk. How'd you meet him? I met Roy. How did I meet them? I started coming around when I moved to Florida, coming around in their labor. They had body head and I was like, you know, I was like, yo, I was carrying bags. I just want to be a part of it. And Roy, he took to my honesty. You know what I'm saying? Same thing with Wayne. Like, you know, when you got a guy that's taking care of everybody, people tend to just, they always kissing their ass and tell them what they want to hear. And I told Roy something one time that I ain't going to share, but something that had disagreed with that happened. And I wasn't like trying to check him because I was a little bro. But he peeped at it. You know what I'm saying? And I remember, he just took to me. You know what I'm saying? He liked me and I learned so much from him. He was a good dude, man. Took me in a role with him. Yeah, real good dude. So he was at a lot of those fights? I didn't go to a lot of the fights. You was on the body head and the head that I must have forgotten all that. Yeah, I was on the videos. Wow, I got to go back, man. Now I'm way in the back. I'm like, do you want to see me? I'm going to die. I'm going to get them back like, yeah, man. I'm in the back. I'm in the shadows. I'm already in the back. Now I go right there. So like, when you, for how did you meet Country Wayne? I got to get into that too. And hold on. What did you want to do as a kid growing up? Is this, because you went from martial arts to boxing to rapping to like, what is it that you wanted to do? Entertainer. Just entertainer. Just entertainer. I'm like, Sammy Davis drink. You always wanted to do that. Cause I was a kid. I just wanted to be a famous singer. I just wanted to be a, I wanted to be an actor. I wanted to be, I just wanted to entertain. Because it was different back in the days than it is now. Like back in the days, people only wanted to be like an actor or a singer or this now is like, you have to be an artist which is everything all in one now. That's it. So it's different. Yep. So the, can I get into the Country Wayne question? Let me say this. When I went and saw Ted, he told me, he said, Mike, when I signed you, I knew you was a star. Wow. I just didn't know what to do with you because you did too much. You did too much. I got a guy like that. I love him. I don't know what you, he's like, you telling jokes on your page and you singing to your rapping Boxing the, he's like, I knew you was a star. But he said, bro, I didn't know what to do with you. Damn. So like the time now is like, everything's coming just to full circle because it's like, oh, now this is, this fits into my- This is in the industry of what it is. Man, it is new. The thing I, when I first seen you was really like my first time seeing you. I'm being real. And when I seen you, I was like, man, what is he doing on here now? But you didn't look as big on there for some reason. I don't know what the hell, the camera's tripping you. So like you look bigger in person than you do on there, but- But they always say you supposed to look bigger on camera than you do on there. No, I don't know. This is backwards. So, but as you- It's backwards. Yeah, I promise it is, but when you- It's the angles. Yeah. When you were in country, when you weren't met, or how did y'all, how did you even make, make it to meet him? Like, so Chase, his brother's doing a bridge. How'd the chase chase Walker? Chase Walker. Chase Walker is the, first of all, let me give him flowers. The camera, you know how, that's all the iPhone. That's dope. One iPhone. I have the whole filming. Can't nobody do what he do with that. That's Chase. I've always heard that you can do really great skits with an iPhone. But you can't, can't up like- Everybody can't do it. Can't nobody, can't nobody. I had a camera guy like that. Remember, Tyler's like that, Jay Tyler's like that. There's no cutting. There's not no like, hold on. I had a camera, and he's catching the reactions and the- He's serious about it. He's using a tripod too. He's using a little- Yeah, yeah, that's for you. Yeah, a gimbal. Right. Can't, listen, can't nobody do that like he do. I told Wayne and the Dallas at Wayne, bro. And Wayne was like, oh, I know. Him and Wayne together, they just- Make magic. They make magic. And they've taught me that they brought me in and they kind of cultivated me to show me a different, it's a different form. I'm a trained actor, but this is a different form. Cause it's not, usually how we do one take- And then you cut it. To a wide- Right. We're gonna go medium, boom. Okay, we're gonna get your close up, bro. Yeah, yeah. You know, we can every, so that you're catching everything. But what this is like- It makes it so much easier too. No, it's harder. It's harder like this. It's way harder. Y'all don't, y'all have to do over and over. I mean- No, no. You do one take. But editing is easier. Editing is easier. Right. Yeah, but that one take, I thought it would be easier It's like a live show. Ain't no cut. It's like a live show. It's live. If somebody messes up one thing, it could be perfect. If I say one thing wrong, I can't say that cause you know, we gotta start over. But how many times do y'all feel like it make you better? For us, our chemistry probably wants it twice. Yes, okay. But because, you know, like Ro, she been doing it for a while with them, you know. So the chemistry, it don't take us long. But how did you come into that? It was the camera guy. Yeah, yeah, sorry. We gon' get it. He gon' get it. So it was the camera guy that brought you in. He did he call you? Or how did that happen? Were you in Atlanta or were you in Florida? Where were you at? I don't know how the hell they found me. I was in Atlanta. But Chase hit me up like, yo- And he known you how long before that? Well, I'm known in Atlanta as an actor. Like in the acting world. No, but Chase knew knew you. No, we didn't know each other like that. So I was actor of the year, AAC, Greenlit. Was that the magazine? I keep thinking about that, yeah. So I'm known in the acting community of Atlanta very well known. So he knew who I was, you know, but we weren't like friends or anything like that. He was like, are we doing this kid? And in my mind, I'm like, I'm an actor. I don't know if I should do this skit. That actor voice, you know. I'm gonna act right up. I'm gonna be dumbing myself down for this thing. Some people probably would think that skits are below them. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm an actor. I'm an actor. Most actors. Yeah, cause they was like, Mike, what are you doing? Like, bro, you work so hard. And I was just like, ah, I'm just, you know, me, honestly, I'm being rude, John. I told Wayne this. I said, bro, when I came on, I had no idea. Like Faizan. Oh, I had no idea. Cause you're wearing this huge. Yeah. But Faizan. Watching him before, you actually. I had seen him before. We didn't think nothing about it. I was like, oh, he doing the internet stuff. Because we old. Yeah. Faizan old as hell. Faizan, Faizan. We asked that question. When I asked Faizan, I basically was big up in the fact that comedy has taken so many different avenues. And when I was asking him that, I did not know that he would feel it like, tell me, hey man, that's that other shit. But I didn't know. But that's why I asked him the dinosaur, hey, how do planes making money? You talking about the big old metal things from the sky? No, I mean, no sense. So I understand, my mind was like, ah, it skits. And I told Wayne, I'ma do it to get some followers. I'm like, you know, let me get some more followers on my page so I can get my verification. And at that time, how many followers did you have? I had 111,000 when I met Wayne. So I do the first skit with him. I was supposed to come and be Blake's daddy. And then I was supposed to do about three or four and be gone. Yeah. Came. I remember that episode when you came and Blake, I'm like, oh. I was in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, me and, man, not just Wayne, but, cause his team is his family, his brothers. Yeah. Harvey and Tay, his kids. And then Ro, it's a family. And I just fit right in. Yeah. I just fit and I felt like, like I knew these people forever. You know what I'm saying? Wayne, I don't meet dudes and be like, man, that's like my brother, man. I really love that dude. Yeah. Like he's a, he is a, let me tell you something. That genuine spirit. That's what it is. You ain't gonna meet no celebrity at that. And this is the thing. This is why people don't think he's so big, like Faizan. Cause of how he care yourself. Yeah. He ain't walking around with 1,100 chains on the net. He taking care of 700 people. Wow. Why he take care of his whole family? And he's still living like a king. When I went to that nigga house, I say, nigga, what else you do? I thought nigga was still selling dope. And that wasn't a new house that he just bought. No, he just got a new house. Right. He got a million dollars in furniture. I bought that new house. That's when it threw me off. Cause he was like, yo, we gonna, yo, we want to bring you on full time. And I was like, all right, cool. I'll do, I'll do it for a time. Cause I, first of all, it was just the chemistry with them and I was, it was fun. You know, I went to that nigga house. I was like, okay, what else do you do? Wow. So as we, as I got closer to him, he started, cause you know, yeah cause he want everybody to win. He like, bro, you got 270,000 followers. You ain't making no money. Are you crazy? I'm like, I can make money. He showed you. He showed me. And when I tell you, Phazon don't know what the hell he talking about. There are so many different avenues nowadays compared to what it was. Now Phazon spoke on the residuals that he make. Let me tell you something about residuals. He's Phazon say he got residuals. I'm telling you, didn't he say that? Cause he's been doing work. Ever since, ever since Friday. Okay, let's talk about residuals. Let's talk about residuals. Compared to what you're doing now. In the 90s, your residuals ain't shit right now. Unless it's friends. Y'all know, I get residuals. I'm a professional actor. So yeah, okay, I get, I made, I did, raising Deion. I did about 125,000 off of that, something like that. As when the residuals come in, they get smaller. Yeah, it's time to go longer. That's the reality. As any actor, it go all the way down. You get a check for six cents. I've got a check for six cents before. That's bullshit. That's a waste of people. Don't know residuals come in from the 90s and you just like, oh, I'm just sitting back and all this money. That's some bullshit. I'm an actor. We a lot of people tell them that cause we don't want to let people know. That I'm a comedian. I'm gonna keep it real. But he says his friends are on the four bliss to do comedy. Okay, let's talk about numbers. We ain't gotta talk about Googling four. Let's talk numbers. Okay. The skits. Let's say you got a, you have a, let's say you got a hair, hair business and you got a clothing business, right? Okay. And y'all, how do TV, how do you make money on TV? How does TV show the big money? Is it because of the people that's picked up and they, the network paid? Ads. Ads. Ads. Yeah. Commercials and ads and how you make money. I get it. Okay, boom. You got your hair, you got your clothing. We a, we gonna make a move. We gotta invest in some ads. Snowfall is the number one show on FX. Right now. Great show. Five million views a week. Five, that's a lot. Right. Right? They got 10 episodes. Let's get the calculator out. So five million. Times 10. Times 10. It's 50 million views. Now hold on, y'all ain't made our decision yet. Y'all still shopping around. Now Country Wayne does a million views a day. So that's seven million views a week. But the difference is he ain't got 10 episodes. He got 52 weeks. So times 52. That's 364 million views. Now let me ask you, with your hair business, who you gonna put your money, who y'all put your ass on? I'm gonna put my ass on Country Wayne. Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. So times is different. Times and times. So what happens is when you, and I understand what Phaselons come from because Phaselons are alpha male. All right. You know what I'm saying? When you talk about, when you talk about basketball somebody from the LeBron era, we want to make sure our era stand strong. Man, Jordan, Jordan. Jordan's 66, 196 pounds. For show. LeBron is 69270 and jumped the same height. Evolution is a motherfucker. You talking about David Robinson, Kevin direct the same size as David Robinson. Shooting from half court. It's evolution. But you know, we as men, we got this thing called ego. We want to make sure our shit. Man, I know this. I do that. We ain't done though. We ain't done. So basically he getting paid from Facebook, Instagram and YouTube, right? He's making. He don't get paid from TikTok or any of those avenues yet? Cause it's not long enough. He do three minutes. So he's making $450,000 a month from social media. I've seen it. I ain't talk about it. This ain't no, this ain't no Google. This ain't no. I've seen it. You live it. Yeah, we live it. I'm getting listen. This is 55. I live it. He live it. He live this. I'm getting some of that money too. So just so y'all know. This is an AP bus down. This is 90. I'm not trying to brag. I'm just saying. I know I get it. This is social media money. Now, I got money like Wayne. But anyway. And there should be motivation for any of y'all who trying to come up. Everybody who's trying to get old. It's motivation. Right. Because I want, my thing is I'm not saying, I'm not trying to attack phase on. I'm not trying to brag. I hate that we as a people are always the last to know how to get the damn money. Exactly. And that's the good thing about this episode is that people will be able to look at it and say, I need to investigate how I can get me. It's not even that educated about platforms. Some people know how, but it's too scared to get up off their behind to tackle it. That's really what it is. You need to get off your behind. Because it's on your phone. You can do it wherever you at. This is TV. Everybody. This is the new TV. Let me ask you a question. I hear Gary Vaynerchuk say that a lot. Let me ask you a question. Now, you say, forget the views. How many times, how much time you sit down and watch TV in the day? When I eat, that's it. That's it. How many times you put this thing up? I force myself to do it too. How many times you pick this thing right here? All day long. That's why everybody got a podcast. That's because it's evolution, people. If you want to ride a horse from New York to California, that's your damn business. I'm getting on a plane. Look at what these niggas talking about. Exactly. Let me tell you something. We ain't done. So that's 450,000 a month. So 450,000 times. And Wayne didn't want me to do this, because Wayne would be like. I already know it. Let me tell you how Wayne is. Wayne, he's like. We ain't got to explain this to him. There's so many people hating on Wayne right now. And I'd be like, bro, he'd be like. But why they hate on him? Because he seemed like a such a joy. Why they hate on the bride? Because you had to top. You had to top. You got to get, yeah. I'm going to tell you what, I'm about to show you what they're hating on him. That's 5.4 million from Institutional Media. Okay. Now, as comedians saying, Wayne ain't no, man, he ain't no real comedian. Oh, what you got to do? Do stand-up comedy, right? That's right. Let's talk about that. Matter of fact, I'll come to the show this weekend. We're on the 30th to be accused of. I can talk to tickets. Oh, go on tickets. We got them. Awesome. You want to come to it? Yeah. Okay. We got it. We got it. We got it. So now that's 5.4 million, right? We are on a 30 city tour with Live Nation. Wayne is just Wayne. And I ain't going to say no other comedians' names because some of these other comedians are some of my favorite comedians. They're doing packet shows. If you look on right now, I want you to find one comedian. Find one black comedian right now that's doing shows by itself. You ain't gonna find it. Wayne does clean comedy because he's a hustler. And Wayne, when you go to Wayne's show, you have people in their 20s who love drip all the way to their 60s from church because he on curse. That's right. So when we go to these shows, and I tell Wayne, no, I tell him, bruh, like you shock it because I'm with him every day. Every day. He's so regular. He just chilling. And when you go to these shows, you're like, this nigga is like Michael Jackson. When Wayne come out, I'm talking about these, he's selling out theaters. They paying this man $75,000 a night. We got $30,000, guaranteed. Let's do the math on that. We ain't done it. So that's $75,000. That's a lot. Yeah. Time's 30. And how often does he do shows? We do it every weekend. Every weekend. So that's 2.2 plus 4.5 million. Sorry, Wayne, tell him you've been there. So now we had about $7 million. Right? Wow. Now we ain't gonna talk about the investments. So Wayne, this year- First you gotta pay everybody. Now I'm talking about the investments he's invested. So now we looking at them, the endorsements. Then we ain't talking about the money for every time he do a video. Like we was in, for instance, we see him do a video with, and he, a rapper or somebody he featuring, they paid for that spot, 15,000. When we ate the lot, we was eating the shrimp and all that stuff. We was in Louisville. He paid Wayne 15,000 for that skit to tag him. When you talking about that money, Wayne is gonna, is at $10 million this year. Just this year. Wayne is 34. When Kevin Hart was 34, he was at 7.5 million. What is these niggas talking about? A man. What is these niggas? What are you talking about for? See what I'm saying? So Forbes list, you gotta start somewhere. At 34 years old, 10 million, in the biggest comedian right now, Kevin Hart was at 7.5. And Wayne didn't even put a movie out yet. What? He didn't even put a movie out yet. When I tell you that Hollywood is, they knocking at the door, not like this. They banging out. They knocking like the feds. Trying to get that boy in there. Because if I can make 10 million dollars and I don't even gotta leave my cell phone, you know what they thinking. Ooh. Wow. We'll put up a hundred million of them. Yeah, but the way how y'all move, I can see him doing his own movie. Not trying to. We already shot it. No. So you know better. Okay, but we already shot it. Right, rather than going through them, just do everything yourself. To convince, to convince everybody, you know like, you know that this is the route to go. Because everybody can't do this though, first of all. Let me back up a little bit. Everybody can't do this, bro. And it looks simple because I see it, but I understand because of the world that I've built around me. And I know that people look at the finishing of what one does and think it's easy. I'm telling you. It's a gift, but you know what? Everybody does have a gift that can be shown to make money off of.