 You want to move on to a war? So, Jake, I was going crazy with the video yesterday and all that stuff. I texted you this morning, who won? Who won stuff? Yeah. So you're going to have to remind me in the audience who won and who they beat and who was up. And don't they have like the official voting breakdowns? Like we can see who voted for who? I believe they do. I saw a couple links. Just like, excuse me, I didn't see links. I just saw a couple screenshot images. So yeah, I'm not sure where you find that, but I guess it's out there somewhere. But yeah, we'll do the rookies of the year first because those came out the day before. In the American League, as you heard us mentioned, Jordan Alvarez, he ends up winning the Astros mighty DH left field, first baseman. He did crazy stuff. If you're a stats geek, go check it out because what he did in like his 83 games or something is unbelievable. His all season, he was breaking records that were the last guy to do it was Pujols and just a lot of special names. So he ran away with it. I don't know if these are first place votes or if these are total, but it looks like Jordan Alvarez won 35 to 19 over Eloy Jimenez. So there you go. He did it. He did it. It all makes sense. That makes sense to me. Sure, Jordan, who's upset? Who's most upset? Soroka? Well, that's the National League. John Means came in second. Brandon Lau came in third. Eloy Jimenez, Kevin Bisch. Dude, it's Jordan Alvarez in the landslide. Yeah, Jordan Alvarez won big time. He had 31st place votes. John Means had the most second place votes 16. Yeah, I guess he can find the complete results. Oh, check this out. Hey, good job, baseball writers. Wow. Across the board. Jim, it's easy to hit when you cheat, bro. No, but across the board, Alvarez got every single first place vote. There's always one asshole. It's a consensus. What I love doing is finding the asshole voter and saying take their vote away. Like, if 99% said Alvarez and there was one fucker, it was like, oh, I think it was low. Then I'd be like, take that guy. He gets his vote taken away for a year because he's being dickhead about it. I like that. And yeah, this is something you hate about the rookie of the year voting, but it's my favorite is that Vlad Guerrero ends up finishing seventh. And he's still expected to have this crazy career. We'll see where guys like John Means, Brandon Lowe, end up. Mercado got a third place vote. I think if you're Oscar Mercado or guy, he's an athlete. We'll say that. Louie said, I, yeah, I don't know. Who's mad is it's Baltimore. It's they're saying Jordan Alvarez doesn't win if they're not cheating. And John Means would have been a nice rookie of the year to put on the Orioles Rebuilding Mantle. Give us something. Give us anything. Give us something. Yeah, well, whatever. I'm not happy to watch this. I'm fine with a lot of these voters for this, but I will get mad at someone soon. So let's keep going. Okay. The National League. Pete Alonso wins Mike Saroka comes in second. Fernanda Tatis Jr. Who really was the biggest rival to Alonso but got injured. So this again was Alonso in a landslide. I called this even if Tatis stayed because I think rookie of the year is very much a storyline vote. There's no hard and fast rules that it has to be who was the most valuable or who had the best season. It's just who was the rookie of the year. Who was the guy who, you know, and Alonso winning the home run derby, which shouldn't count, but I'm telling you guys it does. It's storyline. And Alonso was definitely, he became the leader. Oh, shit. He became the leader of the Mets. Jake, he also won the baseball, baseball American Writers Association, wherever that is, good guy award, which is the player who is the nicest and most easiest to do post-game interviews with. And usually it's like a vet that wins that. So for a rookie to win, that's kind of cool. So Alonso wins in the landslide. We got any dumbbellers here? Yeah, he did some charitable stuff. But Jim, I mean, he also led the National League and home runs. He had a crazy year. Yeah, I wasn't trying to say the stats weren't there, obviously. Right. But yeah, I think if you're a Braves fan, you probably got yourself excited about Soroka a little bit. And yeah, maybe, and we're gonna hear the opposite of this argument when we start talking about manager of the year, but there's a little New York in this. Like Peter Alonso was the Mets and he was like a shining light for them in the polar bear. Soroka's kind of this quiet Canadian dude who just went out there and shoved 174.2 innings of 268 ERA ball. I mean, pretty wild year by Soroka and very impressive. Probably wins him rookie of the year in a lot of other years. But yeah, I mean, Peter Alonso, man. 53 homers, 53 homers. That's insane. Good for old pistol. There's one guy that didn't give him a first place vote. I mean, it has to be an Atlantic guy. No, a San Francisco guy. Oh yeah, but he grew up in Atlantic. Oh, god damn it dude. Come on, research for a second. I was gonna, I was gonna be mean to this guy in like a joking way. So I went to his Twitter. He retweeted my video, so I'm not going to. That's how you win me over. I'm pretty easy. Andrew Baggerly. Why didn't you vote for Peter Alonso? You had him. Well, Soroka had a higher war. Rascal bear. I saw Peter Alonso naked and I liked it and I don't want to vote for him. Okay, JJ Cooper, good vote. Tatis got a couple seconds. Who's, who Reynolds got one second place vote? Yeah. I mean, that was Joe for sorrow. No, it was guaranteed. Ben Fredrickson. Yeah, it's Joe for sorrow's friend. Joe for sorrow. That guy's funny. I'm going to his Twitter now. Okay, he didn't retweet any of my videos. What are you doing, Ben Fredrickson? What are you doing? What are you doing? Coda Hudson, Victor Robles, yeah. There's not a lot of people upset about either of these, right? Like manager of the war is more, manager of the year is more contentious. These, we had, each division had two mallers and each division had a maller and each division had a pitcher, the mallers one. All right, now we go to manager of the year in which both winners did not get the most first place votes. God, I love the system. Well, didn't, didn't Rocco and Boone tie? Yeah, so Rocco didn't get the most first place votes. Well, he tied for the most. Yes, which means he did not get the most. He shared the most and Schilt didn't get the most. You can't get the most if someone else has the same amount as you, Jake. That's just- You're tied for the most. Yeah, which means he's not a standalone leader. He's not standalone, but he did have the most. So if you tied for first place, you'd brag about coming in first place? You're tied for the most. I mean, that's just the fact. This is semantical, but you sound like a loser. But mine's right, yeah. They're both right. If me and you- I mean, he had the most. He didn't. He shared the most. He's tied for the most. Yeah, it's whatever. It's still weird that neither manager had the most first place votes. Schilt got out-voted in first place votes by counsel and Boone and Rocco tied. Kind of odd. Yeah. Yeah, it's, let's do the ale first. Rocco Baldelli wins it for the Twins. The Twins have a great year. They set the MLB home run record, which we talked about a couple of times. I mean, even when you take a step back and you just hear like the Minnesota Twins, a team decade ago that used to be, not a poverty franchise, but they weren't gonna re-sign their stars. And it was, the Twins were gonna be good year by year by who were their young guys. They were almost like the Rays a little while back. And they have a crazy year, 100 plus games. The argument that's going against them is that, well, A, Aaron Boone, his Yankees had the most wins, well, of the managers listed. His team had the most wins. They had the most injuries ever by a team, which again, you start talking manager of the year, diversity stuff, blah, blah, blah, adversity, excuse me, not diversity. And then the big thing is, and Jim, I mean, I'm gonna give you most the credit for this. I mean, they played 57 games against Detroit, Kansas City, and the Chicago White Sox. Three of the worst teams in baseball this year. Three teams essentially trying to lose. The White Sox weren't at first, but then they were. And the AL East was a tougher division. And it's just tough because, okay, let's say you're one of these non-Yankee persons and you're gonna sit there and say, well, the Yankees had a massive payroll. Boone doesn't get manager of the year. You know, a lot of guys could have just juggled all the injuries and bring up these no-name players to have special seasons. Anyone could have done that. I mean, the twins opening day payroll is 114 to the raise 68. And a lot of people thought Kevin Cash was gonna win this if it wasn't Boone. So I think that's where this gets even more bizarre. If you just talk to baseball people, I mean, it was kinda, I won't say clear cut, but I think a lot of baseball people ended up leveling out and being like, Rocco's the third guy. Cause if you're gonna play the Yankees card, then the raise win. And if you're just gonna look at everything as a whole, you know, what Boone went through this year in a tough division is insane. It's absolutely insane. Yeah, you said a lot of what I wanted to say and a lot of it is, hey, keep your bias out of this. It's talking baseball, not talking Yankees. Fuck that, the twins weren't that good. They played so many games against teams trying to lose and they didn't have a good record against teams that were good, Jake. What are we looking at here? Rocco Baldella is a first year manager and he did good. And everyone's like, oh, the twins were so bad last year that they, you know, they improved so much. They fucking went out and got a lot of talent. It's not like Baldelli took the same 25 that were terrible and then made them into winners. They fucking signed guys. They were never injured. And they played against teams that sucked and they had a bad record against teams that were good. Cash should have been over Baldelli. Like Baldelli was the clear third of these three. What did he have to deal with? He had to deal with when his team gave up a lead, when the Indians caught them in the central, but then they traded at the deadline and got hurt again. Oh, no, that's not good stuff. That was twisting the knife a little bit. No, I mean, the overshadowing thing is like the twins won the central when everyone had Cleveland before the season. And yeah, I think, I genuinely, genuinely do think this and if you're gonna call me a Yankees homer or whatever you wanna call me, that's fine. But Yankee bias went into this vote. If this was any of- It's a pity vote for sure. If the Yankees had a different team name and even if they had the payroll, which, you know, if it was the Red Sox who they had the biggest payroll the other year, if it was the Dodgers, if it was whoever it was and they had all the injuries the Yankees had, this team literally set the record for most injuries. That's not hyperbole. That's fact. And then to go and win the AL East, which, hey, that Kevin Cash guy we're talking about who was in this race, he's in the AL East. The defending champion Red Sox, although their season fell apart, they're clearly a better third team in the division than the Chicago White Sox were in the central. So it's really tough. Kevin Cash had a deal with a lot of injuries as well. This is straight up a pity vote and they little old Minnesota, they're trying so hard, let's give them their due. Honestly, it's insulting to Minnesota that Baldelli got this vote. Yeah, a little bit. Okay. Moving on to the NL, where we have Schilt not getting the most first place votes but winning Craig Council got the most first place votes. The Cardinals did go on a very impressive run at the end there. So I don't, the voting system's weird. Part of me loves that Schilt got hired from college and never was in an MLB dugout ever. And now he's one manager of the year. Part of me likes that. Both teams had to deal with a lot like Yellich going down and then the Brewers going on that stretch was a lot of managing. Like it was a lot of managing from council. It's a lot of, okay, we don't have starters anymore. We have throwers mixing and matching and they used the most bullpen arms through September. Like they used like 25 guys through pitches for them in September and they went on an insane stretch. That's managing. Like that's a lot of what council did but Schilt, I'm saying it right. Schilt, Schnit. Schilt. I always feel like I say everyone. Not Schnit. It's not Schnit. Schnit is the third place guy. Yeah, but Schilt, the Cardinals, they were in that division as well. They end up winning the division, which counts because they were in the middle of it for a while and they took off at the end. So I think both are deserving. I don't have as many hard feelings either way but what do you got on this? I think this is the one where we just did our most picker off. I mean, Craig Council with three more first place votes. I mean, that's pretty wild that he walks away without the award. At the same time, you're right. I mean, you can defend it more. I mean, what the Cardinals did this year was pretty special. I mean, we wrote them off a few times. You know, when we were talking about the Cubs and we're talking about Milwaukee, we're like, oh, these teams are kind of fun. I think we literally said like, who are the sexy players to get into on St. Louis? And we found Jack Flaherty and that got exciting. But yeah, and I think the bigger thing you need to know going into this vote wise is that Brian Snicker wasn't gonna win. He won last year. So that's not cool. The Braves, they didn't take enough of a leap. So it came down to Council and Schilt. And yeah, I mean, this one is bizarre that you would actually have to go through the votes and say, Council got 13 first, Schilt got 10 first. Why did Mike Schilt get 14 second place votes? And why did Craig Council get six seconds? I don't know. So I'm doing my little witch hunt here, Jake. Sure. These are the people that didn't vote for Council in the first, second, or third at all. Are you ready? Richard Morin from Arizona Republic. Okay, what's your deal? What's your deal, Rich? He hates Council from his diamond back days. The big news media from Chicago. Oh! Eugene McIntosh, no Council. What's your deal, Eugene? Yeah. Joe Kay from Cincinnati, no Council. What the butt? Kyle Newman from Colorado, oh, no, no. Nope. Yes, Kyle Newman from Colorado. Yeah, man, I don't know. It's weird that like he has the most first place votes and then you just leave him off, whatever. There's a lot of options here though. Like a lot of people got votes. Roberts got some second place votes. Why? Yeah. Snittker with some. Lovullo, Lovullo got some. Why? Why? Why'd he get some? Fightin' D-backs, babe. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, dude, they're fuckin', ah! Lovullo got two third place votes, Jake. Yeah. From the fuckin' two Arizona beat writers. Yeah, Jim, you didn't see what he went through this year, dude. The system's so stupid. So that cost, one of the Arizona dudes wanted Lovullo to get some love because he's their manager. And that cost Lovullo, that cost council winning. So stupid, so stupid. And then that's the reason why Boston and New York don't win these awards a lot because their media hate them, don't love them. But if you go to San Francisco or Cincinnati, their media wants to like, hey, we're doing some good things over here. Vote for our manager. And in New York, they're like, our manager's fuckin' trash, let's blast him on the back page. It's a little bit of the difference. Yeah, they do need to like, I don't know. We need to whittle down the options a little more so that Terry Francona doesn't get one second place vote. And even Dave Martinez, which is hilarious in hindsight, but that's why these are regular season awards. I mean, he gets 15 points when there's four guys ahead of them. Like maybe bring it down. Like they need to do almost a Heisman Trophy round where they do a round and maybe bring it in a little bit and then have everyone vote for four guys or whatever it is. Because, you know, yeah, sure, give those other guys credit and why actually? No, no, why give those guys credit for being the fifth place manager of the year? Who gives a shit? I don't. I don't. You were fifth out of 15. I wouldn't clap. And half those teams were tanking so you were basically average. I clap for that. All right. Average. Let's hit him with a break. All right, Jakey, Jakey, rattlesnakey, eight himself and then wakey, bakey, stoner head. What's up? What are the next awards that are going to come our way? We might be doing later today or tomorrow. Hey, thank you. Thanks for the introduction. Hey. So today, James, you know, it's getting announced today. What's that? You hear about this one? Have you heard about this one? Hey, let me tell you about this one real quick. Cy Young Award. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who are the options? Can you tell me? I hate award season, so I'm out of tune, but I'll help you in tune. I mean, wait, it's Colin Scherzer? Colin Strasberg? It's in the AL, Cole? Winner. Verlander? Second place. And Charlie Morton? Third place. If that's not how that lands, we have a big battle. I expect it to be the top three. Yeah. And then in the National League, the National League gets pretty some weird wild stuff, Jim. I mean, Decrom. Weird wild stuff. Scherzer, Strasberg, Ryu, Flaherty? Say them again. Say them again for me. Decrom, Scherzer, Strasberg, Ryu, Flaherty. I actually wanna like look at the stats on this one. But. He's actually gonna look at the stats this one time, people. Yeah, but I don't have this set up. How would you do this? Is there like this already set up somewhere? I can do it. I mean, not really. I can do it. We got Decrom. Okay. And then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. So we're giving it to Cole in the AL. Yes. I mean, he. Yeah. The AL should be Cole, Verlander, Morton. And there will be some fucks that vote for her. They change the third cause they want someone from their team to get it. And it's like, get out of here. So we got Decrom, Strasberg. Who are the others? Decrom, Scherzer, Ryu. So no Strasberg. I don't think, yeah. Like he's gonna get some votes from somewhere, but I don't think so. All right. How do you pronounce Ryu's first name? I think that's the part we slaughtered once. I'm nervous about it. Hyunjin. Hyunjin. Hyunjin. And then Flaherty's the fourth. I don't think, like he'll get votes, but. Okay. I think like Decrom's the leader. I'm pulling up a comparison of these pitchers. Decrom, Ryu, Scherzer, Seroka and Flaherty. There's not a glaring miss right here, right? Don't think so. Okay. I'm gonna make my calculated winner, okay? Okay. I think they've, it's Cole Morton Verlander, Decrom, Ryu, Scherzer are the finalists. So I don't think those other guys, so maybe they did do this Heisman style where everyone cast a vote and that these are the top three and that's what's announced. Okay. So Decrom, Scherzer, Ryu. Yeah. So first what I'm gonna look at is Innings Pitch, Jake. And Decrom's got him by a lot. 204, Scherzer only has 172. That's a big jump. Ryu's got 182. Okay. Earned runs, don't really care, kinda care. Ryu's got the best 2.32. Decrom has the second best 2.43. We're looking at 22 more Innings out of Decrom there. Game started. Decrom has 32 games started. Ryu's only got 29 and Scherzer only has 27. So I have Scherzer based on all that as my third. I have Decrom as the clear winner. And that's kind of the shrug look at each other that's going around in baseball right now is like, I think Decrom's gonna win this and we didn't talk about him all year. Yeah. So now I wanna look at the game logs and see who like blew the most game. You know what I mean? Okay. So yeah, well if you remember, Decrom kinda got off to a bad start to the season and then from then he was lights out. He has, what I look at is starts where they allowed more than four earned runs. The John Boy stat. Yeah. So Decrom has three starts where he allowed more than four earned runs. And he has no like, his four earned runs, he went seven Innings. So I'm not gonna, that's not great, but it's not, he didn't blow those games. But six runs, there's three of them. Ryu, Jake, he had same thing, three starts with seven earned runs and the rest were pretty good. But he just doesn't have the Innings that Decrom has and the starts. Now, a lot of people care about strikeouts. For this, I don't care how you get out. Just get the guys out. I think the best pitcher pitches the most and allows the least amount of runs and I don't care in which way he does it. I know that you value them more than me when looking at this. Do you have, I mean, if that's the case. It's just a way to show domination. And I think Ryu would get hurt in that, Scherzer gets a little bump and Decrom is still right there. Yeah, Decrom should win this. Yeah, he's just got the better body of work. It's kind of funny that the NL Cy Young vote was really excited like right after the all-star break. It's like, whoa, Ryu's putting together a special season. Scherzer's gonna be there. There's just no Decrom talk the whole way. These guys get nicked up. Kershaw was in it for a little bit. And then it was just, it's the definition of slow and steady wins the race. Like, Decrom just did his thing after April and it's looking like he's gonna be back to back. Cy Young award winner, which that's crazy impressive. Good for him. Good thing you wanted to get paid. Yeah. Yeah. I think that ends everything, covered a lot. And we had some fun along the way. And that's just always key. You know, I have a couch cushion on my desk right now to try and help with Echo. Is that cool? Oh, no. My most viral video ever. And I have the couch cushion behind my head. Maybe this helps. See, that's cool. Maybe this helps with the Echo. My most viral video ever, Jake, I needed to make sure the Echo wasn't there. So I surrounded, I built like a pillow fort for myself on my desk. Yeah. That's cool. Just having a pillow on your desk. Not cool. Well, it's not a pillow. It's a couch cushion. I mean, like everything you've done since has been so much cooler. And I think you need to acknowledge that. You're balancing it on your head right now. Thank you. Thank you. So where you started and where we are, thank you for listening and talking a bit. Leave a five star review. Say Houston Cheats. Houston Cheats. Yes, please leave a five star review and say Houston Cheats. And also the Pirates. Yeah. Wake up. You don't have. It's almost time. You don't have a GM still. You don't have a manager still. Pittsburgh Pirates hire Mike Taubman. Pittsburgh Pirates are the only team like, well, no plan. You knew Gabe Kapler was your guy from the start. Wait, Padres, you knew that. Yeah, that's actually pretty good. You knew Jayce Tingler was your guy from the start. We have no plans here. We kind of thought we were going to ride her until he died and then we bailed out. But they're still old school over there. What's spring training for? Are they keeping Clint Hurdle in the organization or is he like gone? I think he's gone. Because he should be gone. Gone. No, he's gone. Clint Hurdle decides to retire from baseball. Yes, because. Obviously. Same reason I retired from playing. Yeah. No one wanted me to. All right, that ends this show. Thank you guys. We'll see you probably tomorrow to recap the next two words. Ha.