 All of our joints in our body, our ankle, our knee, our hip joint, our elbow and our wrist should be in what we call a neutral position. So if I'm forcing my heel down, look what that does to my horse's back and his head. If I force my heel down, I start to sit heavy on their back. He starts to lift his head up and he looks back at me and it's like you're getting punched in the stomach or in the back and he's saying, ouch, don't do that. So my horse gives me feedback. So when I'm moving him out, if I get that leg back, I'll feel him come up over his back and lift. He will feel free and have a swinging motion, an easy swinging motion.