 Abs are not made in the kitchen abs are revealed in the kitchen abs are made in the gym How many trainers do you feel like have this on their mirror and they look at it every morning? Just like yeah Right, I mean it was a it was a popular thing to tell tell people I understand why it came Yeah, I mean it's it's because you could do You know all the ab crunches in the world and if you don't get to a certain body fat percentage You'll never see him and Understand that you have abs Everybody listening to the show right now even if you've never done a single crunch in your entire life You have abs just like you have biceps triceps shoulders back they mean you have those muscles and The best and fastest way to reveal them is to reduce body fat and expose them that it doesn't mean and I think this is Where the extreme of this is gone where saying abs are made in the kitchen that people just Completely now disregard the value and the benefits of actually strength training and building your abdominals and also I do want to say this So yes, very true. You have to get lean enough to see them. Otherwise. It doesn't matter, right? But I will say this a Develop a well-developed muscle is more visible at higher body fat percentages So a muscular arm is gonna look leaner at the same body fat Percentage as a non muscular arm would look Hey real quick. Here's today's giveaway the maps prime bundle. 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That's the one. That's not a big. Oh, that's a big No, let's get into a little deeper because this really is the secret. Okay. Now obviously there's lots of components that make up what a good successful long-term routine look like and diet but at the at its root at its core If you talk to anybody Who's been doing this for a long long period of time because that's where you really want to get your answers people who've done this for? 15 20 30 40 50 years right who've been working out for a long time. It's they stop caring about the goal It's really not about goals anymore. It's not about I want to bench this much. I want to lift that much I want to get that lean. It's all about I just love the process when you fall in love with the goal Eventually you hit that goal and you're screwed and we've all experienced this right when you're you obsess over a goal I can do it. I'm gonna hit this particular goal. Then you get there and you're like now what? Versus I love the process I love the journey and then the side effect of that is all the goal all the goals you could ever dream of all the Success you'd ever dream of it just happens because you love the journey so much You don't stop working out when you love working out You don't stop eating healthy when you love eating healthy But if you work out to look a particular way if you eat to look a particular way and you eventually hit those goals It's gonna be a big challenge to stay consistent. I mean, I think that's the recipe for any success total Pursuit work school driven relationships anything in that direction is just to really focus on You know the day-to-day process and really learn to enjoy Those things even if when they are challenging Because on the other side of that you get you reap all the benefits anyways as a result So I'd be miserable on your way through now. How do you communicate this to somebody who? Openly tells you I don't like this process. I hate doing this I work out because I know I need to because I know it makes me healthier But every bit of it I do it begrudgingly, you know, it's it's almost never the now Of course, let's be clear. You could do things wrong. You could do things to hurt yourself odd stuff So if we're controlling for that It's almost never the thing that you're doing. It's the mindset of the person that's doing it It's almost always that right? It's almost always. Well, why do you hate it so much? Oh, you know, it's it's hard I got to wake up early and you know, I'd rather be doing this or that or You know, I just want to lose 30 pounds I mean not that bad or I hate my body and so now this exercise is kind of a punishment It's usually the person's mindset that's causing those issues And so rather than look because here's what ends up happening Adam And I know you guys have seen this right the person searches for the different method. Well, I hate this kind of actual I'm gonna do this one. I hate this diet. I'm gonna try this one I'm gonna try that diet and it's just because their mindset remains the same no matter what they do They're gonna hate it versus working on the mindset. Okay. I'm doing this because I'm taking care Who doesn't like to take care of themselves, right? I'm doing this because I love myself. I'm taking care of myself I'm gonna modify my workouts to improve my quality of life right now So if I'm tired, it's gonna be more of a relaxing workout. It's gonna be stress relieving. I'm jazzed It's gonna I'm gonna go after it, right? I mean, I'm enjoying the process and if you figure out how to enjoy that process, which takes time Then everything else takes care of itself, but it's the mindset of the person going into I remember a while ago We had a somebody ask a question that said Something like a The secret to long-term financial successes You know doing what you love or finding, you know something that you love and I remember Adam your reply was no learn to love What you're doing? Yeah, that's the that's the real answer. It's right, right? You remember saying that? Yeah, yeah I think also part of the the problem too is people's idea of of how they need to go about it, right? So I think that has a lot to do with why they hate the process is because I think the the process to them is Is way worse than what it needs to be, right? Like I think this idea of like you got to cut way back on these things You can't have the foods that you love to do. It has to be miserable. You got a crud. Yeah So I think that's a big part of the problem too. So in my experience when people say that they hate coming to the gym They hate that process It's because of the relationship that they they have with exercise It's been taught to them the wrong way And so I think if you can explain to them listen, we don't in fact We want to do a lot less than what you're doing around We just want to do a little bit and create some good habits around and then build upon it I think when they when they start to piece that together that it doesn't have to be this like all or nothing mentality I think that they they start to change their totally the relationship you also start to you also through that process You start to develop a different relationship with struggle and with pain like this is a big one Like I remember as an early trainer It was always weird to me training someone who'd never exercise before how they would react to the burn that they would feel And I would I mean I was training him appropriately So it wasn't like I was hammering anybody but I remember one specific instance where this this woman was doing tricep Never exercised before she was doing rope press downs And I had no weight on the stack at all very light just wanted her to kind of feel the range of motion She did it and then she'd let go of the rope and it slammed. Ah, and I'm like what's wrong. She's like I I think I'm hurting myself. That's what do you mean? She goes. Well, I was it was I'm like you mean it burns like she had a completely different relationship to pain because You know, she had no practice with it, you know, like when I work out and I've been working out forever I feel probably the same pain or more pain than somebody who's never exercised because I've been trained so long I pushed myself, but it it doesn't it's not the same relationship I doesn't feel bad to me actually start to enjoy that whole process of it, right? So it's definitely a practice that should be the goal though The goal should be to let us why tell people when you go to the gym practice your exercises learn the skill You know, you should feel better When you leave then you did going in not what people tend to do which they feel shitty afterwards So they beat the crap out of themselves. Well, it's interesting It's part of that not having that mindset I think is why we see so many different modalities and so many different diets Totally, it's because we want to just distract ourselves with something else. Yes. It must be this that was the problem You know, it's always a deflection of other things that Is the reason why I'm not enjoying this and I'm not getting the results. I want it's got to be this method Dude, it's no no Joe. Just maybe thinking something. It's like the dude. That's like he just he's dated like 10 people He said, I don't know man. I just you know girls are crazy. They're all crazy. Yeah, she smelled and you're like I had to get rid of there's one common denominator here my friend like 10 crazy chicks might be you you might be the problem so if you've tried like 50 million times to different types of workouts and all these different diets and They all whatever the common nominators you it might not be the program or the diet It might be you you're you might have the wrong mentality and you might be dreading the journey or Purposely not realizing it may be subconsciously dreading the journey so much that nothing else gonna work for you, of course We're totally calling you out right now. Yeah. Well speaking of crazy. What y'all think about that? Will Smith smack? Oh I've been holding it in all morning Theory because immediately my first reaction is like, oh dude. He is a Oscar-winning actor. Yeah, right and he is in a lot of action movies and it looked very action-slapping like his technique was just very It's like Chris Rock's face looked like he was ready for it and then sort of turn I don't know dude. I I smell a fish on back and forth It smells so before we get into that because this is a great conversation I have two thoughts that are that I'd like to focus on for just for a second one is okay Let's just assume it was real. Okay first off Obviously the right thing to do when someone uses words that hurt your feelings or insult something It's not them. No, it's to not physically assault them obviously now as a man and as a human How would I react if somebody said something that really hit my wife really hard? You know, I don't know. I don't know how I would react if it was on the streets I might react physically I to be quite honest if it's at a show. I might just leave So put that aside though. Here's the thing. Nobody's focusing on. Okay. Here's the thing if anybody Let's imagine this because there's people in that audience that aren't celebrities There's like makeup artists and stunt doubles and whatever imagine if a random average person non Will Smith walked up on stage Slap the shit out of Chris Rock. What would have happened immediately out? Security on his ass arrested This is easy any of this is a perfect example of the rules that apply that they apply to the average person Do not apply these fucking celebrities. I don't agree with that. I 100% agree with that because first of all This is not a a public open. This is a very private Award ceremony with many most people you don't think there's security there, bro Okay, your example would be like this if we were at a family barbecue with 50 people in the family and your uncle came up And slapped a shit out of me. You're not gonna call the cops If you call the cops, it was it's not a family thing. I sure it is as they're on TV It's public and there's security, but I mean you're talking about these celebrities Most of them are friends or friends of friends. They all they have their own little community Have you been the last stage to them is like gold no because this is ratings right for that for him to come up there Walk up. They're like, oh Will Smith. What's he gonna do? Maybe he's gonna grab the mic and say something or whatever then slap bro Where have you been the last two years? Everybody got to wear a mask unless you're a celebrity. Everybody's business No, I know that you I don't think this is an example like them being overly privileged Bro, he smacked him sat down yell at him No, this is more of a this is a and they got to get his award after a hell no a Private group of them that you they you would not call the cops this is not private at all and there's hella security there There's it's the security to keep outside people coming exactly like your uncle smacking your friend No, yeah, it is these are the privileged celebrities. They have their own fucking roles. They do what they want and Look again, I don't think that's the angle. I a hundred percent I don't think that's the angle to take here. This isn't an example Privilege the next time celebrities try to talk to you about how about privilege and how they're so enraged over The latest, you know thing that just happened and oh my god I care about the world and we need all need to fuck off you guys live in your own bubble You do whatever the hell you want you get away with shit all the time that 100% would have been totally different Had it not been a celebrity had it been someone else in the audience walk because there's other people in the audience Celebrities if they walked up there first of all screw to grab their ass before they would got up there second if they hit chris rock You're fucking out, dude. Yeah, I mean Okay, so if we are in our family barbecue and some stranger came into the barbecue and did that but they're not strangers They're friends of each other. I'm saying so that's why I'm saying somebody attending the oscars I don't not a celebrity. Okay. Well then somebody at your barbecue that doesn't like your your uncle gets slapped by A distant person you know don't know each other, but they know they know each other They know they know each other. It's like I said, it's more like friends that are having a spew You're not calling the cops. No my point is it's televised. It's a big event. There's lots of people there and you're right They make their own rules for themselves, but they preached everybody else about how great you need to be Well, and now that's and that's also now now you're going that direction You're also taking the the the angle that it's probably true. I don't believe it's true I think it's both now. Let's talk about that. I think I think that hollywood has been drowning Let's talk about their ratings and these irrelevant shows And today they're not today. They're the most relevant news. I mean they they're ahead of Ukraine right now on television Well, like it's crazy like that, but that's how popular this you thought it was staged like uh, jenny jackson's Listen to me. So he got cheated on right his wife cheated on him previously. Yeah, right? Yeah, his son's rapper He knows a guy keep your wife's name out of your mouth, but what you put whatever you want Why he slapped his shit out of him? Yeah, I know Well, that's the case that people are making is like, okay So he gets all defensive about a chris rock joke about her hair and stuff like that But then he yeah, so like so that I guess that whole thing is like it boiled up to this point where it's like, you know He just took it out on chris rock That's like totally not if it's real. There's a lot more behind that If it was it would have been mal there a lot more oomph in that So if you were to try to hurt well, so right away right away I called I called bullshit right away now the only thing that made me kind of go back and forth was they I mean Two things that was like the whole thing afterwards. Yeah acting the acting part on chris rocks piece afterwards And then with jada's original reaction. So if I got to I mean I watch all kinds of different clips and angles and bullshit and You know when he first is telling the beginning of the joke, uh, wil smith is laughing with him I mean, he's laughing and literally when he's got jada's name in his mouth that he's laughing Yeah, then you see jada make kind of like this kind of a she looks embarrassed or she doesn't like it She kind of looks away That's when he got defense and then you see his face change and then you see him go up So that's the point and then the way chris rock lost his lines afterwards and It wasn't all there like that part of it that part seemed very real But the awkwardness and the tension was real for sure, but they're both actors Chris rocks an actor too now So I don't put it past them to stage something to get more attention I mean, especially with what's been happening with hollywood. They're getting their ass kicked by social media and streaming stuff Well, my kids don't even know who they are right Well, I'm not even joking if they if they if they stage or excuse me schedule A celebrity boxing match between wil smith and chris rock Then you know for sure you try to tell me they haven't learned from the paul brothers. They haven't learned from all of these other Uh platforms like you know from youtube from all these other uh avenues where people learn that all Anything they can do to create conflict Bro how celebrity boxing and all this stuff is like so popular right now Like you said that on text last night and I thought all I could think of is like How embarrassing is that if they did stoop to that level like to the where they have to go cherry Springer just jerry springer style for sure damn So I personally think it's real not saying that i'm not a hundred percent But I think it's real because of the Awkwardness and I think it's there's more risk to people's careers and there is Potential positives So that makes me and I bet I do think there was more to it like I mean how are we gonna know it's real Well, you know, okay, so so vicky earlier made a great point She said remember all that the heat that wil smith got for because his wife cheated on him They had an open relationship and he looked like a kind of like a like a beta. Yeah, well you let your what so I wonder if that's weighing on him Then he goes there He sees her face and he's like he I gotta I gotta be a man about this I gotta come up and stand up for my family type of deal and show the whole world So we went up there and did that and then you know did the yelling I mean I got there was a lot more behind it I definitely you gotta think he's definitely regretting his whole what's it called red table or whatever they do Or they just like put their their family business and I mean that to me is just That's probably what led to all this. That's the demise of most I think it was um, uh, what was his name? The guy who's the the mayor of clean eastwood So the clean eastwood did that in his family right and they have he did that I didn't know that a reality show and it like totally just ruined the dynamic Of his family like every time like a celebrity pulls in the cameras and like brings it in the family besides I guess the kurdashians. Yeah, how would zaster happen? How addicted to attention and money do you have to be to want to bring that on in your own family? Yeah, like your real family. Yeah, I mean like never like will needs money Like the guy doesn't need money So why he doesn't and he doesn't need any more cameras of attention. He's got plenty of it if he wants it What what's the desired outcome? Of putting your family's fucking laundry on national television like that. It's it's all dysfunctional It's super just totally the whole thing is dysfunctional. It has to be I would not wish Uh, I would never that's why I'm kind of private about my kids Like I would I get if you're an adult and you do something and then there's fame that comes along with it Which brings a lot of challenges Yeah, but if you're a kid and you're growing up and your parents are famous So you're famous as a result of your parents and you're a kid Now you feel like you get all the attention and love and you feel more important than you are and Creates this distorted ego You're gonna bring more of that on here's our family bring the cameras So if we if we agreed this is real, which I don't I don't well, but let's pretend we do There's one more point. I got me. That's a terrible joke. It was like way beneath Chris rock Like it wasn't that big a deal. Yeah, it was like it it just seemed to me like it wasn't It was just something that he just kind of threw out there Uh, and I don't know if you like again to to the whole thing It didn't seem very planned, but it just seemed like a really just lame joke Well, doesn't that make it feel plan to you the fact that it was a lame joke It's like what can we do? What can we do to get a jab to get him to come up and do that? There's gotta be more to it Exactly because he's so polished and calculated about like delivering his lines and and punch lines and You know and that that joke was just a terrible But I know but you know those jokes normally the when they do the shows or what that are They're normally pretty terrible because I gotta ride them for they have riders riding them for him Yeah, so a lot of times they are terrible. So okay, but I don't let's let's pretend We do all agree that it's real. Who's side of this are you on? Oh side I'm on chris rock side. Well, look because here's the thing is be like what you you would defend chris rock. Yeah He's a fucking comedian. That's his job. Yeah, and you're at a show. Yeah, exactly It's not like he walked to a toilet so I mean you we you have to be okay with that I mean, we've talked about the assault. It's actually less manly. No, no, no, it's actually walk out I mean, that's yes, it's actually less manly to go to a show Get so offended by a joke that you you're you lose impulse you lose your your you can't control your faculties You go up and you swing it someone we've we've already talked about this the assault on on comedians already in the last like, you know, two to three years That's what I would have done if I was him and I felt like as bad as he did At a show I'd say let's go. We're leaving. That's how I would react I mean, I don't even think I do that, you know, if it really bothered me then it's something we off air I talk, you know, I pull him aside Exactly, we want to fight him I hate him after the show He's probably in your best interest the next time you do a stand-up event You leave my wife's mom out of it and I just tell man to man Nobody has to hear about it or know about it that he's going forward But I mean you're you're at a you know, quote-unquote comedy show I know it's the there's more to it do because she looked at her husband So jada looked at uh At will and that's when he got mad and that someone made a said something on twitter that made me think of this They said that's the sign of an emotionally abused man Like his wife is looking at him and he's like, oh gotta react because maybe there's lots of other shit behind You know going doing that where he needs to show This outward expression of like, you know, I'm the I'm your man. I'm the I love you. I'm your husband You know, I mean if it's real. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, but I but again I go back to this look dude. It's on tv. It's it's publicized. There's security there It's a fucking it's a private club public event really. Yeah Anybody else did that if because there's other there's other non celebrities in the audience if a makeup artist walked up there And smacked someone 100 percent their ass would got kicked out 100 percent. It's will smith He sat back down got to go get his best actor award got to make a speech What yeah, but like half of him being there is to receive the award that they already knew he was gonna get I don't like that argument dude. I don't like that argument. I am so sour. I'm so sour man I'm so sour of seeing them totally do the opposite of what and they preach they preach everybody bad behavior with celebrities You know, they that's what the they live for they like they want that photo op Of somebody at the club like beating somebody up or because then it's again What we're doing right now is just promoting the same news Of what they just created dude. They got the best ratings of all time probably because exactly I can't tell you the last time that I woke up and opened up my Feeds and seen the same thing. I mean like bigger than the war Also, okay. That's how fucking weird we are bro. Can we fucking weird our society is Put put up put up the meme with batman slapping the show robin. Tell me it doesn't look exactly the same This is just the evidence They just literally staged the the ultimate meme to to flood everybody's uh Bro, you're like playing fucking put this guy's playing 3d chess high right now I'm not even high right now craig. Hey, Justin Justin's entire argument is the biomechanics of the slap He's technically I broke it down like multiple videos. That's a movie slap in real life. It's a movie slap Nobody slaps somebody like that. Oh Yeah, I don't know. Come on. He also looked like he kind of smirked when he walked back He did and so did chris rock that could all be smiled. Then he was like, yeah, that could all be what happened That could all be nervous ship. It's true. It's yeah people got queered when they're, you know nervous or you know I'm sure he realized you know what to do and he's like I got punked, you know, too So there's a lot. I mean if I think it was I mean, I really feel like it was I have no I feel like if it was real like the move chris rock as a comedian to see the guy coming up You just made a joke his wife would be to like hey, man like pretend like you're gonna run away Well, here nobody was gonna do Yeah, I think I think he knew exactly what to do, which is why he stood this ground like that Listen, if a dude walked up to you know him or not Yeah, but you don't know what you just I just talk about your wife In a disrespectful way and you start walking towards me and you think my hands aren't gonna go up or I'm not gonna Yeah, I'm just like yeah, exactly like you ain't coming up to give me a hug. I know that you know what I'm saying So like what is he gonna do? Yeah, how do you how do you really Were worried that someone was gonna come up or he's gonna come up like that I mean, you don't you don't do any sort of posture with his hands behind his back He did he did make a fist though. Just a picture after he got hit. He instinctively made a fist I didn't see that he was gonna do something Okay, and then thought twice and then it was like wait, man. He's way better than me I don't know man. Who knows, you know, these they're celebrities. Can they really fight? Well, so I hope jake paul gets it. What's interesting about all this is like, you know, will we ever know? Like how like how does how does this get proven to be staged other than like somebody here's the deal Okay, and here's what happens. You hit a comedian question. Here's my prediction. You hit a comedian for making a joke Will Smith is gonna be the butt of every comedian. He's are I've never seen so many memes made about something so fast Bro, you don't comedians can get dark and they could fuck with you so hard And I guarantee all the comedians you look super insecure Yeah, they're gonna band behind chris rock and I guarantee you every stand up whatever they're gonna make They're gonna hammer will smith now That's why that's why again, it doesn't make sense to me to to do to react that way. Like it's like I mean, you just made it worse if you if you thought that joke was bad about your wife Get ready Because because now the gloves are gonna really come off on people and there's enough material there Oh, there's so much. There's so much material there. So and it's already started I mean I've been posting them all day today all these memes that are coming out It's like I every time I open my phone. I get a new three that are sent to me. I'm like, oh my god They are going ham right now. Oh Well, you know, they got some viewers very bizarre, but hey, they they definitely got us to talk I mean, I like that's what Justin said that first, right? I really think that that how are they gonna bring back the viewers Maybe the next oscar awards chris rocks gonna speak again And will smith will be in the audience again. Connie is gonna come out of you know, he's gonna get airlifted in Like kick somebody We'll do the awards everybody Yeah, I imagine if we really are moving in this direction of like jerry springer everything like this That's that to me is the best. Well, that's jerry springer People might not know this if they're not, you know, our age or whatever, but talk shows Were serious for a long time. You had donahue And oprah and then they they were like trying to figure out how to squeeze out more ratings and then it became like Uh paternal tests, you know, and then it became You know fighting on stage name with the beard and then the glasses that He he used to be like a like a journalist that was out in um, like iraq. Oh, you talking about uh, heraldo heraldo Thank you. Remember when he got like his nose broken Uh in some interview. Yes, and that became like the butt. Yeah, my favorite were the paternal tests What was the guy's name that did those were? You are no jerry springer. That was jerry springer morey povitch. There you go You are not Yeah, you are not the fault you ever watch always doing the dances the dudes do afterwards where they're not the dad dancing The girl's just crying. Oh I saw one where she had four dudes lined up if they all had to do it Oh my god, and they all came back negative. We're going right back to the bottom of the barrel. That's my Yeah, we are. Hey speaking of crazy shit, uh, the last all-in podcast was really good about economics that's like negative I don't even like talking about but they were they were talking about economics and kind of moving ahead what we're gonna We're gonna see with uh, so it sounded like from what you guys were trying to describe to me like what were they Well, it's bleak because we're hazel investors and we really got into that in the last year. And so basically Almost everything right, of course, there's always going to be outliers. Of course, they're still great businesses But but what it does highlight is the debate in conversation we had around tonal Yeah, I mean talk about uh overpriced. Yeah way overpriced and they're they're saying bro They're saying between 30 and 50 percent. Yeah, they're saying companies that were getting valuations in the last two years It was so ridiculously over inflated the way that that forgot who explained it was really well, um, the guests they really said Yeah, and then sacks came back and kind of broke it down even further Um that the way in when the market everything's blowing up and we it was a lot of distortions, right? Lots of money injected into the market They that what you look at for valuations is growth. That's the main thing. How fast can you grow? But when things start to settle it becomes growth, but then it also becomes margins and burn rate Because when you have a startup in order to grow before you start to become profitable You have to spend more to grow more spend more to grow more and if that spend Means that it'll take you three or four years To get back that money in this market. It's not going to be cool anymore So so they're saying that a lot of things are going to get repriced a lot of valuations are going to drop So of all there's people there's people they're used to like this is a big strategy You wait till the last round of funding before a company goes public to make a quick Yeah to make a quick a quick buck off of that But what they're saying is there's going to be a lot of people that use that strategy And when it goes to IPO, it's going to be you know, 30 to 50 percent less than what they bought in at So those people technically are now one of the companies that we invested in that I really still feel good about is luna Mainly because they're so disruptive to the the physical therapy market. Yeah, such a need for there's a huge need for it And it saves money for insurance companies and physical therapists like it more because they make more money And they have more flexibility and patients like it more because The PT comes to your house Um, and we we obviously saw their projections and all stuff I I think that's still a total win. But you know, but a lot of other ones. I'm like, oh, I mean, I want to I definitely don't want to debate that I mean, I want you to be a hundred percent right on in your corner I do I agree though because I mean obviously I look at the companies that we invested in and the ones I probably feel the most confident Are we there's a few companies that we invested in that were already profitable? So that's a that's a good sign, right? And that those are the ones that are most likely going to make it out of this Um, luna was not one of those But I do agree with you That they're the space that they're in the size that they already currently are at Um, and the fact that you're dealing with insurance. They're just so disruptive Well, and there's very rarely do you see something move into a space like that and like the the I mean what is it the consumer the creator and like even like like every insurance Like everybody wins that's what everybody is going to save more make more It's like ride sharing that's rare that you see that it's like ride sharing versus tax Here, of course it's going to crush everybody likes it more Yes, and better experience for the consumer the drivers make money I see markets luna is going to open up markets that were already there But they but people didn't take advantage of them because of the logistics I'll give you a big example. My favorite example is postpartum physical therapy Every woman should get postpartum physical therapy because childbirth and pregnancy changes The way your body works changes muscle recruitment patterns. There's pelvic floor issues afterwards all these issues post That physical therapy has such tremendous benefits But the problem is a woman who just had a baby is not going to go to the physical therapy office She has a newborn at home and it's a big it's a pain in the ass. I know I have kids I know what that looks like it's a pain in the ass to drive all the way to a physical therapy What am I do with my baby? Where's it? Whatever so they don't do it and they end up waiting six seven eight months by that point You've developed some bigger problems So postpartum PT is so valuable, but people don't do it because of that with luna Now they come to your house. So I think that market's going to blow up where and it's all covered by insurance anyway So you have your baby as part of your post, you know your your care PT comes as soon as you're cleared they come to your door They take you through different movements and exercises and things that help with all the stuff that happens during pregnancy So that one I think is gonna that alone will be massive Yeah, in my opinion. I agree with speaking of our sponsors. I want to talk about a really cool back Workout kind of in this is this isn't necessarily anything special, but if it's novel for you This is such a great workout. So, you know how the prx Um Cage or whatever that folds out, right? And it's got the pull-up handle. Yeah with like, I don't know. It's like six different grip Positions on that's an extra model. 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No, I think it's great that they do that So you know it's convenient that has all those different grip points in one place because we used to have At that other gym I worked at we used to have some rock climbers in there that put some grips Oh, yeah, and then they got to the point where they could even do pull-ups with like a finger And they had those which also which would be a cool addition to this if there's an accessory that hangs down That's these two like balls and grab I think they do have that I'm waiting for the joke But anyway, yeah, it's it's it's ridiculous just looking for some balls to do some pull-ups on I don't hey speaking of hey speaking of workouts, Justin Yeah, I purposely didn't ask you about this. I want to hear about it on the show So you started working out with your football team that you're that you're coaching like just lifting yourself Well, yeah, because this sounds like such a fun, but also a bad idea. Yeah, it's probably a bad idea I got to a point now where the workouts are Firmly established and I'm going around and checking form and it's it's good enough where like I don't have to be So involved anymore, which is nice. I'm like kind of just you know looking around and and so I started to To talk trash with some of the kids and This I do have a little bit more weight and so then they had me jump in with them I started jumping in with them a little bit and uh, yeah, I started to throw some weight around in there So we'll see how I gotta calm down. I'll calm down. I know like my limitations now and like what to do Face you're not gonna shut your face There is no there is no guy that picked up the freaking 300 pound kid and decided to carry him across the field Just to show him what time it was. Oh, you remember that. Yeah, bro. Are you kidding me right now? There is no way What a terrible idea middle-aged man who has a lifting experience is going to work out with a bunch of teenage boys And not flex on them all the time. There's no way Especially what he challenged me, dude. I was going to say especially when you get a strong one Who's actually going to do some serious weight. They ain't even close yet. So Good luck, you know, I can I can lift these baby weights all day Okay, so I mean if you're like, I mean if you're like 20 heavier than them and ever all lives then maybe that's such a big deal I think I think I would be a little nervous. There's that little strong like linemen You could probably out squat me in there like I'm totally with you guys with that. It's just like for me I'm trying to find new ways to spark um Them to to pursue more of a struggle, you know, and it's like you can tell them all day But sometimes I think he's gotta show them. You're okay. So let me ask you a question Did you do squats with them? I didn't do squats yet. I did bench and oh you did bench Okay, let me guess did you put let me you put over 250 on the bar? Oh, yeah, I was just repping 315 You never put three plates on it here. No, because nobody yeah, I know Because I mean everybody the highest I seen there's like 185. I'm like, this is bullshit. Like where's my 200 kids? Like where you at? So it's kind of like a little call out. I love it I know that I know the feeling bro. You have to you have to I I just started more I just started working out at a gym again I signed up a club sport again just so I could use the the steam and sauna and did you have to re-sign up? Or was it still going from when we all signed up last they they they froze it because I'm like, I'm not I'm not wearing a mask while I come work out stupid So now everything's cool. So I went over and they let me reinstate it So I started training again Over there. Um, and it's you know, I'm having a good time It's a good time a lot a lot of machines. So now I can focus more on Just kind of the body sculpting thing and and you know the steam and sauna after I love that man You do the sauna after is great and then cold rinse. Oh man I feel like especially after talking to dr. Cabral You know about how much toxins and everything we store and I was like, wow Can that makes it even more like I want to do sauna again even more I'm trying to get the mercury out of my system. Yeah. Yeah, that's really interesting I can't wait till when the filter gets here. You already ordered that right Doug? Yeah So I can't wait to see if that's gonna be crazy if just by putting this filter in here all of a sudden it drops All of us. I mean, that's the only thing that made sense to me that we all do, you know Yeah, there's there's no other explanation. I mean, we're not out there eating You know a bunch of mercury not that much fish. I'm not eating like that at all Especially right now. That's why it was gotta be one of these industrial lights or something, right? That's emitting Doug. Doug is light ideas. You that are okay. We can do it in the dark Kill all of us dude. What's that? Hey, what's that? What's that? Somebody's just breaking thermometers in here. Justin. What's that disorder where like the mom will slowly poison her kids? Munchausen. Yeah, we have Doug's munchausen. What if he's like, I'm doing it to myself for god's sake Okay, that's like part of the scam though. No, no when they when he did the hair test Doug's like, fuck they're gonna see murky. He'll take some out of there Hey, look I got mercury too guys. Yeah, I'd say this was the highest Hey, you're right winner. Yeah. Yeah, you know that this weekend was uh for Justin and I right we both uh daddy daycare Right. Oh, you guys were without wife same time, right? I tell you what might a little different But all this New Year's yeah, well ours. Uh, I mean it was four days, right? So this is the longest without Katrina This is also the first time that she has taken off like uh for like a whole weekend or four days, right? Good for her Yeah, no, it was totally uh her turn to be able to get to do this I've done it like in short spurts where we go travel or whatever And I and I told her like if she was just like, you know, you I got this I said hunn just go have a good time. You'll be fine. We're gonna be fine. We're gonna live But I forget I was just gonna tell you I was gonna tell you guys about her her reaction to uh No, did he do anything like was he missing mommy was no, he was he was great, dude It was uh, it was a the whole point of me telling or bringing it up was It all and I and I've said this before that I have this appreciation for Single parents after going through that and by the way, he was easy like he was such a good kid. Oh, yeah He got better. He was he was he was sick the previous week. So he's always a handful when he's sick So he was he's healthy. So he's in a great mood since he's been healthy Went to bed on time slept all night. I mean he was just he was just an abslution But I tell you what two two things One I I did not find any time to eat like that I actually this has to be like a great weight loss strategy because I'm so concerned about Taking care of him feeding him staying on his schedule and stuff like that like a couple times I found myself going like oh, shit. I haven't eaten today I always end up eating at like eight or nine o'clock because I'm like, oh, I forgot about dinner Well, it's all it's all consuming because they're on you all the time, especially when they're little I mean, I just can't I I have such a huge respect. I know imagine single parents will multiple kids Yeah, just No, I have a friend. She's got two little ones a baby and a little a toddler. I'm like, how do you how do you I like to I didn't get a try. I didn't get I didn't work out one time in the four days Uh, I ate very little. I mean because the option is like to eat what he's eating I'm not eating anything he's eating, right? So I don't want to you know, squeeze ease and like, you know Waffle or I'm not going to eat what he's eating. So I really had very very little food during that time And I and I didn't have a breakaway time to train now granted I I get that if this was like my life and I wasn't a single dad I would figure all these things out, you know, and like of course I would eat consistently Of course, I would find a way to get my workouts in but man when that when that's your your main focus Is it's really tough to prioritize yourself So I totally get it and understand where parents get very consumed by their kids and taking care of them You definitely appreciate your significant other and these oh, yeah like I because poor Courtney, she uh, she had uh, surgery because there was just this thing we had to get out of the throat Um, that uh, it just was irritating her constantly and I don't want to get too much details. Yeah, there's a wife joke there But I'm gonna leave it. I know I don't want to get will Smith in there Yeah, he's got good Um Yeah, so anyway, I had to remove uh, it wasn't her tonsil but almost and so anyway like her throat is just Massive she's always painkillers and the the worst part of it was Uh in the surgery they actually nicked uh her tongue and so she's got an inch like long Just cut And when you're when your tongue is cut it is painful sure and so It's four things. She's just got all this pain and you know can't swallow and it's just like so i'm just You know super dad mode just trying to like get everybody doing stuff And I took the kids to their gymnastic meet this weekend in Sacramento and like uh, you know Putting all their stuff in their gear to get like I did not realize how like incompetent like my kids are with like Like putting things in that they're supposed to put in like like Like Everett for instance they wear this like kind of onesie unitard thing and then you put shorts over it and like so And then he just puts his his track outfit on the outside right doesn't put his shorts on We're almost leaving the house. He would have been there with with his just onesie without his shorts Like what are you thinking dude? And like courtney caught that right before I left And I'm like, oh, thank god, you know like there's just multiple examples of that But I'm like and like you must pull your hair out constantly. She's like Oh, dude, I was trying I was trying to bat a hundred with her being like not have to call her not ask any questions Nothing right and like seriously perfect weekend and then Saturday I take him to a birthday party over in Lodi And uh, and I leave and I was unfortunate I left he was in one of his moods where he decided that he didn't really want to go play with everybody He wanted to be in the house with me or one other kid Playing instead of being in the jump house and being outside on the grass in the slide Like and so I was just all day with him like playing with him and never got a chance to kind of socialize with anybody So I took him home and when I left I get a screenshot picture from my best friend's wife And it's his fucking diaper bag. I'm like, how did I left it there? With all his stuff, dude, like and I think the whole weekend has been great I haven't had and that thread is actually got Katrina in it. I'm like, oh man I was trying not to like have anything that was like fucked up on dad's part Yeah, you wanna let her know about that? Come on, I got this handle It's a lot of work, man It's a lot of work and this is why being a stay-at-home parent can be lonely You know, like if you're a stay-at-home parent like you don't you you hear them say, right? I I don't have any adult interaction. It's constant about my kid. I can't do anything for myself Um, it's tough. This is why when I hear parents or no When I hear people who don't have kids judging parents I I want to will smith them in the face. I want to slap them because You have no idea like, you know how you ever hear people like, oh You you put your kids in front of tv I would never oh, yeah, you feed your kids. Oh, yeah, I would know. Oh your kids are acting up I would like dude, you have no idea, bro. Yeah, you act like you're so bad at my own food Yeah, you don't have kids. You have no idea what it's like. Yeah, shut up I mean, I'm I mean, I'm was just telling my dad my dad came by and visited over the weekend And I was telling him like, you know, one of the things I've learned as a parent in my short time two and a half years Right is that I know better now to say I'm I'm never gonna do Always like that is a matter real fast. Yeah, you like you so like when I always like people ask the season parents Just sit here and smile. Yeah, I just go no comment now. I say we'll see or I'm gonna try this That's my that's my strategy. I mean even you know talking about the the tv thing I really believe that I wasn't gonna give him no tv till he was like five You know I'm saying like I was gonna say no tell me And I mean for the most part I thought we were really good and I think Trying being aware of it. It's been the most valuable thing, right? So like On friday and saturday like he did get no tv him and I were playing we're outside Like he was with my dad for a while like we went to the park like just and he was an absolute saint Yesterday, you know, it's the we're waiting for Katrina to come home. We slept in it's sunday Like we weren't going anywhere. I was just like, you know what? Let's let's lay around and watch a little bit cartoons in the morning So I let him watch some cartoons in the morning then around I think three or four was the warrior game I really wanted to watch that selfishly Katrina still wasn't home. So I'm like, I will pull the iPad out You could watch that I could watch my thing and but you know what? Bath time. He was fucking miserable going down. He was hard like I swear man if if if I get a tradeoff it is a tradeoff and I and so You know, there's times and what I real recognize as a parent now who who said that he wasn't going to do that at all is That okay, that's not happening It's going to happen There's times when it's like this is like a lifesaver to be able to have him some entertained like that But it also keeps me very aware though of how it absolutely disrupts his sleep and changes his behavior So you have I have to be very Judicious on how I use it It's like it better damn well be something that I really need help or really need that moment of him being entertained for me To use it anymore or else I can totally see how it's not gonna no one's gonna be no one's gonna be a perfect parent And the more kids you have the less perfect shit is like you're doing that with one You got one kid and your kid's easy. He's a good kid. You know, he's a very good kid Yeah, imagine you have two three You got a job two on top of it and you're doing it all the time Not just four days, but like this is what I do for the next You know 18 years. Yeah, I mean and you got to take care of yourself a little bit too So like that's why people who judge parents like listen if they're there and they love their kids And they care they're crushing like like stop judging. Yeah, that's it. No 100% agree with that Hey real quick one of the sponsors we've worked with the longest is organizing. There's a reason for that They have exceptional supplements and quality products. 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Yeah, no I mean, it's it's because you could do You know all the ab crunches in the world and if you don't get to a certain body fat percentage You'll never see them and Understand that you have abs everybody listening to the show right now Even if you've never done a single crunch in your entire life You have abs just like you have biceps triceps shoulders back they mean you you have those muscles and The best and fastest way to reveal them is to reduce body fat and expose them that it doesn't mean And I think this is where the extreme of this is gone where Saying abs are made in the kitchen that people just completely now disregard The value and the benefits of actually strength training and building your abdominals and also I do want to say this So yes, very true. You have to get lean enough to see them. Otherwise it doesn't matter, right? But I will say this A develop a well developed muscle is more visible at higher body fat percentages So a muscular arm is going to look leaner at the same body fat percentage as a non muscular arm would look Same is true for the abs and the obliques. Look, I experienced this myself So I through most of my training career personal training career I didn't do lots of ab work because I was a skinny kid So I wanted and I wanted to get big and build muscle and so abs were like who cares, right? Let me focus on everything else And then at one point I I actually tried to get lean and I did I get down to like nine 10 9% body fat and my six pack Wasn't really visible unless I flexed really hard. Otherwise it just looked kind of lean And I don't really think nothing of it. Well, anyway fast forward I create the maps anabolic program and it dawns on me like, you know, I'm gonna See what happens if I try to build The muscles of my core and I did and my abs and my core responded really well I was able to build the muscles in my core and I now will have a Real, you know reliably visible six packet like 12% body fat, right? So because the abs are bigger the muscles are more or more visible because they're more developed So yes, you got to get lean But that doesn't mean that you're that developing a muscle isn't going to make it look better At higher body fat percentages anyway, they both contribute. Yeah, I think I mean even in the performance side of the world a lot of times You know We get stuck in the in the thought that I'm getting enough ab work because of heavy lifts with Backloaded squats with, you know, heavy carries like I'm stabilizing a lot of weight And if you look at that if you don't you don't train the rest of your muscle groups that way only in an isometric Stabilizing position without, you know, it's true Flexing and extending. So, uh, it's very much of a function of the abs that you want to be able to strengthen And and it actually carries over into all kinds of other lifts as well from a strength and support Uh position so, uh, but then again, too, you can you can actually build in You know gain some size from your abs which will help them to you know stick out stick out more and then that is where The revealing it becomes a bit more Uh easy. I'll tell you something right now. There's like the the lumbar pelvic hip area When that's strong and developed You feel that more than almost anything else like I could have well developed strong biceps and triceps and delts and And you'll notice when you do certain things I guess but when you're your your core And the musculature that supports your core including the hips is strong You are strong. You are a strong person if those are weak I don't care how strong your arms are and your and your rest of your legs are You're not very strong because uh that that weakness will will Put the brakes on any kind of force you're trying to produce so from a performance standpoint like I tell you what you find me A really powerful athlete and what you'll find is it well developed lumbar pelvic hip area glutes You'll find you know well developed core midsection obliques It's very very important Muscle group work them like anything else as far as seeing them as concerned. Yeah You got to get to a certain leanness. But you know adam said it right perfect Everybody has abs you look at power lifters With big bellies they got abs too. They're just not lean enough to see them. But trust me they got strong abs there Next question is from t.m. Goodner Can you help explain why bodybuilding or strength training results in limited mobility? Why is it that when we get stronger and build muscle our range of motion is limited And moving in the old ways becomes painful. This is a myth. It's a huge myth. Yeah, however I would like to address why some people experience this because some people definitely do experiences They'll start working out with weights and they'll say i'm stiffer Here's what's happening. Okay. First off. It is a myth proper Full range of motion resistance training Improves functional flexibility. It's one of the best ways to give you better Functional flexibility, but what then why did some people training in full range of motion? Yes. Why do some people get this? Well, if I gain 50% more strength in a short range of motion You see bodybuilders do this all the time like they'll do a shoulder press. They'll stop right here, right? Or they'll do a bench press They'll stop right here or they'll do a row and they'll have short range of motion If you increase your strength dramatically in that short range of motion What happens is you've actually lost stability In the full range of motion and so then what your body does to protect itself Is it maintains your movement within the stronger range of motion? Because if I can theoretically curl 200 pounds from here to here, but then down here It's like 50 pounds anytime I go to curl lifts up my body's going to automatically Prevent me from moving outside of my strong range of motion and that's why you see well It's tightness the actual strength training that's produced. No, it's the way you're training. Yes, and and so to To completely shorten your range of motion and try to squeeze the pinnacle of The bicep or like some of these sort of techniques where we're just trying to hyper focus on You know one element of that lift and not go through full range of motion You can do it enough times where your body is Going to sort of Prioritize where you're strong and where you're not as strong and so you you have a governing system in your body that limits The ability of you getting hurt, you know by applying force where you're not Strong and so it's it's really like what you're what are you teaching your body how to do where you're going to be strong in terms of That that specific range of motion you got to address that specifically With weights and get that end range strength. I also think that This chasing soreness all the time is just making it worse too Right, so you're you're just because you're sore. Yeah, you're already training in a shortened range of motion Um on a regular basis and to the point that you were making And then in addition to that you're also caught in this trap of always chasing being sore all the time to prove to yourself that you had a good workout and so you're walking around stiff and tight and it feels like you've lost range of motion because You are are locked up and you've gotten strength in the shortened range of motion And you don't train in the full range of motion And so it then people make this connection of oh wow Being a bodybuilder or training for strength limits my range of motion up and it's like no, that's not the Bad training does You know and that I mean that's part of what we're always trying to address on here When you hear us talking about training through full range of motion And if you can't is to work on that because Strength training is one of the best ways to do that and it's it's the complete opposite of what people think Look, it's it's no different than this like, um, you know having trained lots of clients You'll get the occasional female executive who wears heels Every single day for years and years at work and what you'll find is really tight calf muscles and tight muscles of the foot Now is that because what she's doing is shortening the muscle and somehow or she's losing range of motion because the muscle itself is tight or no What's happened is because she's always with this toe point all the time Flex position she's got really strong in that flex position And that strength now is disproportionate to the other ranges of motion of the foot and the ankle And so the protection mechanism that that the body produces is it limits The range of motion because look here's how flexibility works, right? It's controlled by your central nervous system It's not controlled by the muscle as if it were like a city or something Yeah, it's not like a rubber band that if you heat it up it gets more flexible And if you cold it all you know make it cold it gets brittle That's I remember once it was explaining me that way when I was an early trainer That's not at all what's happening. I thought that initially Yeah, it's not at all. What's happening the central nervous system controls it. It'll tell a muscle relax We feel safe. You can stretch or we got to be tight oftentimes people will be tight And it's not the muscles that are tight. It's the cns saying limit this range of motion anything outside of this range of motion We're weak is weak and it's unstable So if you get really strong if you're if you're look at a full squat, right? All the way down all the way up and you get really strong at a half squatting like really strong The the the ratio of your strength from the half squat to full squat now is so broad That when you go do anything and you squat down your body's gonna limit it It's gonna say outside of that get tight outside of that get tight because we don't want to go down And protect you protect you. Yes. That's really the mechanism that's in place Yes, it's an important one for your body to have so you don't just tear your muscle right off the bone Right, but full range of motion resistance training Full range of motion is that's the opposite it increases the strength all the way through the range of motion Increases stability and now you have real functional flexibility that can work in the real world Now you may be thinking I can't do Full range of motion on some exercises. That's okay The goal is to be able to get there though So your goal is to work towards that point through correctional exercise You can use programs like maps prime pro You can go lighter Correct your form But the full range of motion training does the opposite of what you see sometimes with meat heads where they're super stiff Well, this is this also highlights the the young often you hear this too with Young kids who don't want to do mobility work because they don't have any aches and pains There are other reasons why you should be training mobility besides just to prevent Chronic pain and I think that's how it's commonly used right now Like it's not hard convincing a 40 year old plus that listens to this show that they should do mobility because they're like Yeah, and I they feel the difference immediately when they do it But if you're young and you train like a bodybuilder or you try to press the weight and build all this muscle And you are not working through full range of motion This is a reason why you want to incorporate mobility in your training so you don't end up in this situation Totally look you're you get a lot of check engine lights that appear before pain Okay, so pain is like it's like you have a check engine light on you ignore it and then smoke starts coming out of the engine That's pain by the time you hurt Lots of things have led up to that point So for someone who's young and listening and saying well, I feel fine that doesn't mean you are fine Okay, that just means you haven't got to the point where the pain will start to happen By the way, once you start to hurt You have to backtrack and it takes a while and it's not just when the pain stops You still got more room to go before you're you're doing really great And I will say this just to entice young people even more Mobility training will make you build more muscle and and make you stronger anyway because it improves your connection your range of motion So forget the pain part you want to maximize your results in the gym Uh, work on mobility work on mobility now work on mobility always it'll do that Next question is from Rolando Chavez to our massage guns a helpful tool for recovery Wow, you know, there's mixed messages talked about this in a while with massage So some studies will show it doesn't facilitate recovery other studies will show It does help facilitate recover. I'm in the camp that it does Now we'll get to massage guns in a second, but I'm talking about massage First in general like a good massage practitioner because that's the gold standard, right? You have someone who really knows what they're doing work on your body Here's why I think massage improves uh or helps facilitate recovery Now there's the argument it moves fluid through the body it helps with the inflammation it helps Get the signaling to happen and recovery work faster Maybe that might be happening But here's the the main reason why I think it helps facilitate recovery a good massage What massage does when you press on a muscle Is it sends a signal to the central nervous system and it says relax? Yeah, chill out So like if you have a knot you ever had someone push on a knot in your shoulder or your back And then you feel it release That pressure told the central nervous system. This doesn't need to be so tight, you know You get you get this kind of feedback mechanism the cns relaxes it interrupts that feedback mechanism Yes, that helps with recovery because if your muscles are as are constantly kind of tight That's going to prevent recovery because it's it's it's a little bit damaging Especially over time when you have this tight, you know, I've gotten sore Just from being tight in an area for too long So I think massage helps you move better and helps release The cns a little bit which then allows the recovery to happen a little faster I think yeah, it needs that that break from that the constant loop It's it it's almost like once you get in that loop and anything you do That's not even a movement that should affect that area like your body is just going to tense up a bit more A bit more over and over and over and you just get in this perpetual loop that If you need to like physically address it and I think that it's really helpful to get that that outside stimulus to Break that up and then allow, you know more range of motion even if it's temporary which You know we found is you know the the effect doesn't last very long But now you can really work on mobilizing it getting more circulation Well, that's the key to me the the key is not so much the massage gun or the massage is what you do with it afterwards It's you get the temporary relief so that you can then go train Your mobility work properly then train in full range of motion right like that That's the it's like the phone roll right it's the same same type of a concept where so if I had a massage it's just self applied Yeah, I don't have one, but I would totally use one. I mean, I think I think it'd be a cool tool to have I don't really it's not that big of a deal for me to carry it around I also think that you can do that with a phone roll I can do my wife is a massage therapist So she can do it with her hands and so I think if I get like really locked up hips from like Overreaching on squatting maybe a couple days ago and then I'm back to you know Maybe I'm lunging or deadlifting today and I'm still stiff and locked up from that Like something that would release all that is a good massage before I go in and then do some great mobility work And then go into my deadlifting session. I mean, that's how I would use something like that And I think it's a useful tool I don't I think the way it's promoted and it's sold and the way a lot of people think of it is this Idea of like, you know the pro athletes use it speeds recovery up and like if I want to get the maximum gains and results I'm going to use these tools so I can get faster recovery and I can go with it's to me It's not like that I don't I don't see and if and even if it is giving you like that you're talking about Splitting hair difference as far as the competitive edge It's going to the magic is in how it's used just like you said Adam If if a muscle is tight and it's preventing me from moving in a way That's going to help do a correctional exercise or moving in a way that's going to give me better technique or form then loosening that muscle up through massage Is a phenomenal tool in that sense But if I just loosen the muscle up and then leave it alone What's going to happen is whatever caused it to be tight is still there So it's going to tighten up again This is why people go to the same massage therapist every single week for the same areas. Oh, it's always my neck It's always like you never fix it. It's good for business But yeah, well, I'll tell you what I had trip when I had my wellness studio Some of the best results I had with clients or when I had a client work with me as a trainer Uh with our hormone and nutrition specialist. That's obvious and a massage therapist We had this excellent massage therapist and what would happen is I would do my assessment and I'd say things like oh forward shoulder anterior pelvic tilt I would do my correctional exercise Then the next time they came around they would see the massage therapist first and they come see me And I could like right away get into certain movements and the results were were Super fast now. Here's my thing with massage massage guns Massage therapists and you talk to anybody who's really good at massage therapy There's a there's a lot of art and science into what they do It's not just You know rubbing you down and massaging you a really good massage therapist knows the body In their context as well as a really good trainer knows the body in the context of exercise The problem with massage guns is you give them to everyday regular people They don't understand so much and all they do is they go right to that one pain spot Yeah, and they're just they're not helping themselves because they're just hammering areas that hurt and they get that temporary kind of relief So you got to kind of know So if you combine it with correctional exercise, you know what muscles to get out of the way with massage Unbelievable if you don't know then it's it's kind of like a waste of time You know you just brought something that's a good point too I mean this is something Katrina's talked to me about many times before too is you can overdo these things too totally So it's not like the more is better either like there's a there's a sweet spot of that is the idea is to get the To get you to relax the the muscle to calm down for a second so I can then go put the work in But if you just are getting or digging in or you are just right You could actually get sore from that and it completely defeats the whole purpose of why you just did that You just did it to get some temporary relief So you could go put some more work in or work on mobility or go train And if you actually do it so deep and so hard that it still hinders the workout It kind of defeats the purpose of why you're using absolutely now Here's the other thing is that uh, they are all massage tools are a poor substitute for human touch There's so much value that comes from human touch that nobody ever talks about and the health and fitness space Well, maybe not a lot of people some people do but it's not very popular So many healing properties so many recovery like I remember I would get clients that would come in they'd work with me And they were super usually older clients like oh, no, I don't want a massage I don't want anybody touching me you get this and then I'd convince them And the the benefits they get just from having a person touch them and you know push on tender areas and whatever it was like It was almost miraculous in some way So the the value that you get from good massage from a person Is who knows what they're doing is uh, I mean, they're as valuable as a good trainer in in my experience That's the only reason why I think I don't have one of these guns is big simply because your wife Yeah, I think she's incredible at that and to me It's just like if I really locked up or a situation like that she'll she'll do that You know, so it doesn't make and that's the best I think in my in my opinion Yeah, you can if you've got that if you've got somebody who understands the body like we do as trainers I mean, it's amazing. She I don't even need to tell her what I did like as soon as she'll see it Yeah, she'll as soon as she starts moving her hands on me instantly. She goes right to where I'm at like so I think that that beats a Good therapist can really like read your entire body and your body language and how you react to You know pressure and it's really interesting to me like They have lots of terms, you know to define all that but I'm just like whatever this was amazing Well, you remember when we we went through uh, the al doha stuff like the fascia lines and so like that What always fascinated for me and you know, she doesn't have an al doha certification and and like her Their schooling is a little bit different what they go through But I remember when we for and I understand the body and anatomy really well as you guys do Uh, it would trip me out sometimes She would you know, she would do something like in my calf And it would release something in like my upper back or something would trip me out You know like I knew I had to miss you up here, but then all of a sudden she would push a totally different art You understand that collateral fact Yeah, so if you if you understand those fascia lines and how how long they run You can go work your way down another part of the body to give relief and a completely off Like you ain't the average person owns a third gun isn't isn't able to do here's what here's what it makes me Think of it's like having a dumbbell like a dumbbell can be a very valuable tool You just gotta know how to use it. So I would like to see massage guns Come with programs that help you assess and then apply and use rather than the indiscriminate use of a massage gun I have it and I just push on things that hurt because I don't see they don't think there's tons of value in that I think you're just you're kind of shooting in the dark and poking what hurts And that doesn't necessarily help you if you're not doing it the right way Next question is from april young fitness can eating fat in your post workout meal Slow down digestion and inhibit absorption of nutrients the slow down. Yes inhibit. No. Yeah, not even close Fat increases absorption. There's fat soluble vitamins and nutrients that need fat for To in order to get absorbed and utilized by your picture imagine if that was a strategy just eat higher fat and you get absorbed less Yeah, yeah, right So what you know, it's funny They did remember this member. Okay. So obviously when we were younger it was all about low fat Everything was low fat low fat to the point where a skim milk Fat-free milk was the name of the game, right? Nobody drank whole milk They found that in of course skim milk also was high in calcium all milk is high in calcium They found that kids who drank lots of skim milk Even though they fortified it fortified it with vitamin d Lactose at that point and well, it's just it's just protein and lactose Yeah, so sugar and it had protein calcium fortified with vitamin d weaker bones low calcium Because it weren't absorbing it because there was no fat in the milk. So no fat increases absorption Now this whole thing about digestion. Okay, let me tell you about the supplement industry and how They have distorted kind of what's important. So the whole messaging behind protein shakes a brilliant marketing strategy was to say that uh, one of the one of the ways that it helps you recover Faster and build muscle faster is take advantage of what's known as this post anabolic Window and you want to get as many nutrients absorbed as quickly as possible In that post anabolic window and the studies will show that you'll replenish glycogen and amino acids Faster with certain types of carbohydrates like waxy maize was one or you know dextrose even people would use Or fast digesting proteins like whey protein isolate and it is true You'll get glycogen in your muscles faster and it'll it'll happen quicker with You know a low fat high protein high carbohydrate, especially if it's a predigested shake of some sort So what? It absorbs just fine if it goes slower too. There's no advantage to it getting absorbed faster Unless you plan on doing another workout in one hour So if I do a workout or I do play a game and I got another game in an hour Yeah, i'm gonna want those carbs and and amino acids in my systems right away if i'm working out once today I could even fast all day long eat at night So long as the calories are the same same day. You're the same benefit. It doesn't it doesn't make a difference So and what they did is they placed so much importance on this Because it sold their products and all of a sudden people were afraid to have fat post workout Oh, no can't have fat it slows down. So what if it's slow, you know what they used to eat You know bodybuilders have always ate after workouts steak ground beef Full fat cream egg yolks like you know all of a sudden it became this like no no white rice chicken breast or even better Give me a shake with some like super quick digesting, you know, give me diarrhea carbohydrate Because this is what's supposed to be bullshit. No, it's it's it's total crap Doesn't matter if you have fat unless Again, you plan on working out right after in which case then then you want something that's very quick digesting and absorbing Look, if you like our information head over to mind pump free.com and check out our guides We have guides that can help you with almost any fitness goal You can also find all of us on social media So justin is on instagram at mind pump. Justin Adam is on instagram at mind pump. Adam and you can find me on twitter at mind pump. So