 Good evening and let's November 21st regular scheduled Berlin select board to order my fire left is Justin Lawrence Flow Smith my right is Jeremy Hansen and Angelina Capron. I'm Bradtown and Additions of changes to the agenda. I get one item. I'd like to add it's in regard to Green Mountain power cutting ash trees public comment hearing none Treasury report I have given the October trial balance budget status report into Lincoln notices as of November 15th to the select board Also, if you know it as you probably noticed I paid for that truck from Clark's and that is truck that we can get along for now We're going to go to the community national bank I had asked for them what the rate would be and that was like five months ago And they gave me a rate of 2.05 percent and that was good for two months So I've asked them again to give me the rate because it might not be 2.05 percent But I will let you know what the rate that I'm assuming to be very close to that But I can't tell you it's going to be accept so before I order the paperwork We had agreed to pay for the truck When it came in the agreement with Clark was to pay for the truck. They are sending it over to Fairfield the outfit is and they will Take care of the bill with Fairfield and we just pay the total so the hundred fifty-five was the total which considers our trade and and one of the advantages for doing that deal is we got to keep our current truck and I Remember that winter we were short of trust So it is at Fairfield's right now and it should be ready Supplier They used to go to the one in Barry Tenco And they move they're still in business. They're up in Berrytown. I think they're up in the industrial part I Don't say don't know I think it's because before it was kind of like we bought the truck And then we sent it over to Tenco and we dealt directly with Tenco, but it's now the Clark deals with the But Tenco and HCR only have the same company. Oh, okay, so that we're not dissing them. That's good. Okay. Thank you Proof of licenses permits vouchers and applications People are still looking at them Yes, thank you John Let's see we have John will be in to talk to you about the I told the 750 so that's probably why he's not here yet He's going to he is he works with the emergency management team. He wants to talk to you about disaster plans for pets As part of that CD guard call so he will be in Okay John I would call my first name There is now we were talking about Over from a board meeting And as I just mentioned John is coming in to talk to you about this disaster plan for pets CD dark and You'd like to tell you about it I have provided of this brochure that I'll hand it to you that tells you a little bit more about it Yeah, the brochure is basically for your own use in terms of your own pets in your own home this situation I've got more giveaways here That explain what we're into Okay, so that's CV dart is a central Vermont disaster animal response team We're the local chapter of the Vermont disaster animal response team, which is a statewide organization so we're the ones that would handle the the towns in this area and Give you some information on that Cards that show our towns Okay, so what do we do hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and What happened was there were people That were flooded and isolated That would not leave their homes Because they would have to leave their pets behind So they didn't leave and some of them died as a consequence So the federal government passed a law that said that municipalities and states have to plan for how you're going to deal with Pets in disasters. It's called. It's called pets. That's the name of the book and that's the inside this brochure on the Bottom part of that first page there so That puts a burden on local municipalities and Communities to so how are we going to handle pets in a disaster? Let's say we have flooding and people are Evacuated from their homes They can't go to a Red Cross filter because Red Cross does not allow pets in their shelter So what we do as CV dart is we set up the Shelter for the animals for the pets So the people can be in a Red Cross shelter and we're looking after the animals that came with them and So that's that's what that's really one of our primary tasks And what does that involve that involves having people that are skilled in terms of animal handling Having a system that's set up to deal with all sorts of animals that might show up dogs cats ferrets hamsters snakes who knows what so What we're looking for and the card will show you the towns that are involved We're totally a volunteer organization. Okay, we formed back in 2017 We're one of the most active chapters not to say we are the most active but we are one of the more active chapters of the Disaster animal response teams that are out there That way we've got some members coming from the other teams because they're not doing much of anything as as of yet and we're sort of just going Bowling right ahead and charging ahead to get organized to be ready for the next disaster and what we would do in a disaster is In Barry the BOR the ice rink that building would be used as an animal shelter We were going to be in in the auditorium underneath on the bottom, but The medical reserve corps has first dibs on that in case they need to hand out medicines or whatever or deal with that so they move this over to the BOR and We've been there several times now to say, okay How would we lay out the BOR in terms of where would we put the dogs? Where would the vet be because you have to have a vet or a vet assistant so there's only things that are involved with setting up a shelter and Then making sure that all the animals are taking care of properly are medicated properly to some of them like my dog Quite a few meds right now as an older dog. So you have to really account for all that stuff and What we're doing as a team part of what we're doing as a team is trying to Get at Funding because we have no source of funding in fact the VDARP the Vermont organization will actually expect us to contribute to their Their operations. So we have to look for funding from our local communities and also local businesses And we've been able to get some funding from like say, you know, national life But we're looking for the municipalities maybe contribute a little bit of map and a little bit from each one adds up to something that works for us in terms of Food supplies because you have to really buy the food Then there you can't really store the food doesn't Medical supplies cleaning supplies you'd be surprised how much is involved in terms of cleaning out the cages and taking care of all that Again, this is all volunteer labor. So we need the source of funding to help us Get these shelters running when we need them It's all about preparedness. We're all we're trying to get ahead of the game. And if something happens ice storm or whatever Red Cross opens up we open up. We're ready to go. Do you have a budget John? Yeah, I anticipated that This is what they gave me. I'm not I'm not the financial person. That's fine This is I can pass this around if you want to take a look. We have a trailer. We have You know, it's it's got all our supplies it it used to belong to the CERC team Do you remember sir? I used to be a member of the CERC team local CERC team pretty much dissolved because of too many requirements possibly by the overarching So is that saying that $2,200 is your annual budget? I'm not sure I'd have to look at it I just got that tonight because I knew you were someone was going to ask we don't The budget amounts there or just I Think they're they're they don't if they don't take into account Running shelter, you know, this is just to keep us going maybe but you need the actual funding or you need it on hand So you can go in and buy the the food and whatever you need the medicines, whatever you need When the time occurs, I have to take a look at it. This is an annual budget from the it says July 1st 2018 2019 so So what we're what we're looking at, you know with the number and we're not gonna be able to hit every town or every town We'll not contribute or sometimes you have to get so many Signatures to get on the ballot to get funding what we're looking for is something in the range of you know 150 to 250 per town. I know that you have worked with the emergency management. Yeah Which is where I met you and Have you talked to them about this? I've been I've been the sort of the CB darned the a drone. So I've been going to their meetings. They're aware of our of our program. It's a question of There's a regional disaster and then everybody goes to the BOR. They could be a localized Problem that would just affect maybe Berlin that you'd have to have your own Shelter and then we would assist in terms of Maybe training in terms of how you handle animals, but that's that's so that's what we we sort of look at We're looking at people being self-reliant in terms of a disaster so that if it just affected One or two towns adjacent towns you could you can handle it yourself Whereas if it's a central Vermont problem, then the Red Cross shelter opens up right now I'm not aware of what shelter you would use to Handle people or animals. I know Wanda has been working on that with the school. I'm not sure they want animals in the school These are things that have to be worked out and thought about If you're going to comply with that that heads act. I Was just thinking it was an emergency type thing We you should be aware that we fall under that ICS program, you know That structure and that's that's how we operate in case so we all have we all have had to take training You know in the in the various courses. That's part of our part of our Requisite to join the team really and then and then now we're just going on training with animals and handling and practice shelter setups or practice Animal handling and dog walking or dealing with cats or whatever. So we we've had quite a few Trains, but that just keeps going on and on because you have to maintain preparedness there And I guess I'll welcome any other questions you may have at this point And then I'll have a question for you in terms of how would we go about possibly getting a small amount of funding from the town of Only $2,500 allocated to the Humane Society, right 15 15. Yeah Yeah, we're not seeking to Compete with the you know, that's the last thing we want is is to be Taking from the the reason I bring it up is that we have we have that money allocated But it's not currently being used because our we're paying our and control officers From I mean if I'm understanding what you said earlier We are I'm sorry the 2,500 is the animal control officer the Humane Society is another line But that's not money that we've been spending over the last so we haven't happened to know I Was thinking along the lines normally I would say to John Go and get petitions and get on as a special appropriation Which is a process that we do I think this is very related in my opinion to the emergency management work Whether and to me it would make sense to fund it through emergency management Since it's a small amount And there's really I think there's apparently an expectation of our municipalities to to handle this it's our our responsibility ultimately well, I think it's I mean I know that people Would be reluctant to go into shelters Well, it is a requirement like you say in terms of the federal government having set this requirement for your preparedness plan to include How are you going to deal with this and we try to help you deal with that at least on a regional basis? I should say we just went through a round of Signature attempted signature collections in some other towns like Waterbury Whatever they were out there a few weeks ago and in the pouring rain and trying it's just it seems like it's a lot of effort For this amount of money. It's a lot of effort for very little return Can we just bump up the emergency management line by $200 I would It's not my choice, but I mean not my decision, but why not? So this is required by federal law that we take in You plan for yeah, how you're going to deal with so that people can say My dog can come with me or my cat you don't leave I would never leave my Yeah, we'd never leave my dog alone in a disaster that dog's coming with me I don't care, but it's just gonna get in the car and we're going Sense to go through the emergency line No No Some planning so your emergency management plan would include some provision for dealing with folks that show up with animals Yeah, and I know in working with tour and Wanda and Bruce and Fred That It's still in the works in terms of where your shelter would be and how you would how would you would deal with that? But they're they're very proactive in terms of getting prepared. It's just a matter of the final details as to okay What are we going to do with the animals? So for the most part For it to be a local thing it would be fire if there was a large-scale area Washington County be flooded For the most part you would think that Red Cross would open up a shelter for a large scale I'm talking about for the animals for the animals. Well once Red Cross opens to shelter that sort of triggers us to open There could be like to be snow could be an ice storm Yeah, you know, you could have a Chocolate storm Irene come through. I was just trying to think To have a shelter for Animals you'd have to be on high ground Yeah, we're we're looking currently we're looking at like the mad river valley is part of our coverage Yeah, good chance that they'll be isolated we couldn't even get them out of there So that we're gonna have to set up sort of a a satellite System some not you know cash of equipment and supplies there so that in case of disaster They can be self-reliant on those supplies, but here you're on fairly high Berlin is pretty The If it floods there's gonna be a lot of people in trouble before they get to me. I'm sorry, but Did you say that the shelter wasn't buried at the civic centers? It's the BOR It's ice rink. Yeah, I'll think of it the guys Outdoor recreation. I bet they covered it. I guess so I think that's it So what are they asking for us to do to be compliant what exactly are they asking for for us to Say, okay, we're gonna have Tell everybody in town. No, it's my understanding as part of your plan So I know the your emergency management people have a plan to deal with you know How they would set up and how they would communicate and they would have a plan as far as where the shelter would be and as people Come they would be able to refer those with animals to John's group if you had a place here if it's really if it's a if it's a an area why you know If it goes beyond Berlin and it's it's multiple towns, then we would set up the shelf We're not gonna shelf this up Set up the shelter for a single time. I don't like because you're gonna be somewhere in other words Yeah, the idea is to think about where can we put pets and people? Ahead of time, right? So if the school is where you're gonna put the people But then the school says we don't want animals there then you have to say, okay, where are we gonna put the animals? You got you got the people handled now Where in town is there a space that we could set up, you know, we have And we have equipment like cages and things to keep that you're gonna have to put the dogs and cats And in separate areas plus in cages to control take care of them feed them Etc. That's what's gonna happen. They're not gonna be loose in an area. They're gonna all be Isolated in cages and so your mission is though to get a donation from the town. That's my mission here tonight It was a 150 to 250 for Berlin we figured that would be a reasonable amount we may look for more in some bigger towns So if we build this into our budget I would think it sounds to me like a budget item Otherwise, I would have said You better go out and get a hundred names To get on the ballot And that's what we're figuring is a lot of work for not a lot of reward in terms of getting those those names Because we started doing that we tried doing that already and it's not working out too well Have you looked through the state in terms of like the VT shares program and getting a code number where when people make donations? It might be something to think about given Yes, I used to contribute to the VT shares when I was at the state So yeah, and you had all those listed exactly you could pick the one it would be worthwhile to look yeah To see if we can get listed. I'm not sure be darts on there or not If the if the if the master group the the head group is on there then they probably wouldn't want us on there also But I can look into that. We're looking into great idea. I know we're going to be approaching Some businesses for contributions maybe either contributions in terms of cash or in terms of supplies for instance Maybe set up some MOUs with some some places so that we we don't we can turn to them when we need and then Be ready. Yeah, it's all part of the preparedness Make a note of that VT share some places will also reach out and ask other towns to match other towns Sort of like Berlin is done this Will you match it? Oh, yeah, and and once we get a couple towns going we'll probably mention the fact. What did you know? Yeah, exactly Well, we're looking obviously I live in Montpelier, so I'll be looking to Montpelier From assistant, I know they have a different system where you get in a major list of all the charitable organizations You get in there, and then they try to pass that all this one one piece so I Something you can make the argument to Montpelier that this because this is a an obligation of the municipality They should they ought to be funding it directly rather than thinking of Pd dart or V dart as a separate or cv dart rather as a separate Organization who's just doing other other stuff out there, right? Yeah, we're trying to help you guys comply with the federal Requirements, which not a lot of municipalities. Well, I would hope more of them are aware of it now I'm not sure if you guys were aware of that So maybe something is news to you But there's a law out there that says that and and we're just trying to be a piece of that of that compliance Basically, my next question is when are you expecting this donation or? When are you thinking of this? Well? I think I think when we went into the fundraising we thought If we had to get to the signatures and everything it would be by town meeting day kind of because the budget We're working on now begins July 1 2021 20 20 well We'll take it when we can get it. Yeah, because we're gonna be looking at all the sources So it all adds up. Is it would it be a recurring item? Is that a possibility if we put it in with the budget usually yeah gets in that's that would be great if it could be You know, that's what we're really shooting for from the municipalities Get it in as a recurring item of the amount like let's say 200 if you add up a bunch of these municipalities They're on that on that card that that gives us a good source of annual income to be able to Fund what needs will prove did I not pass around enough of those? So I guess I'm asking the board if you want me to include it I would I think it's I mean if it's mandated much as well And I'll be continuing to meet with with Wanda and tour and and Bruce and and Fred There's a few other people there yet, but you know just to keep working towards preparing this there for that aspect that's I Was meeting with them as a search member for years before Certain went away and now I really got into search because I wanted to help animals And sir that was one of the goals of search was to help deal with And your flyers very informational Especially the part since this law was enacted pets must be included in operational plans of the state or town seeks reimbursement from the Commend you for your efforts. Thank you very much So what happened to people on the farm was there was that that farm that recently lost their chickens unexpectedly in the flood Yeah, I know with farm animals We can't take them into a no clearly right so but we would have a list of resources where This is where these animals could go and maybe to another farm or whether that's that's all part of the planning I know for small farm animals We probably have an agreement with some folks out in Washington And this is the town of Washington where they have a small farm operation that would be willing to take animals So that's that's all part of the planning is to deal with Even those animals that you can't take into the shelter, you know, I'm not sure what you would do at work with horses and things Yeah, it's a good question Well, of course with Large animals cows horses that kind of thing it depends on you're not gonna be able to take and pass them off to another stable or another fire unless they can prove they have their shots and their Coggins in there. Yeah, well, yeah, I guess if you were if you were to recipient to those animals We definitely wouldn't want that information unless you get have some way you can take a nice label What about border it's hello for dogs. I mean, is that like a Is there Well, we would want folks to bring as much information about their pet as possible And then if there were any questions about shots, etc Then those dogs we would have an area that animals could be a little bit more isolated from other animals So that's all part of it, too We would hope to have a better vet tech available so that any animals that needed attention could also be addressed By the vet and that tech and then then there's a question of okay if your animals on meds Hopefully you brought the meds because we're not going to have a medical supply the vet the vet might have some But we're Jeff definitely not going to be going out to buy meds Or be able to so you'll have to bring your own meds for your pet So we probably weren't engaged with planning Well, that's that little handout that I think I sent Dana to hand out to you folks just in terms of your own personal Think about these things if you if you're a pet and I guess that's enough John come July. I'll try to remember again, but I will need a bill Okay, and we can work out but just keep that in the back of your mind because I Okay, the bill is just like a form But I just have to have you and that's next that's July Yeah, I'll pass that along to the rest of the board just so be aware And so we're looking at $200 on our recurring basis possibly That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, okay. Well, thank you very much. It's very nice to get appreciate you I think you made me the first or second town that that we've hit to get these kinds of contradictions Hopefully we'll be able to get a few more and so they're not as bad as you've heard I'm new I'm new at this. I'm not I've never done something really much before Anyway, thank you very much. Yeah Okay digging the town right away lucky boardman, I think this is lucky probably come on up Lucky has a property on Bartlett Road. In fact, it's that courier property that is He is asking to Constructing access Driveway for a future home He's worked with Tim Davis who has been up on Bartlett Road to check site distances, etc and Tim has Said he is satisfied with the site distance Where's this exactly? Junction Bartlett Right the corner. Yeah on the left On the left as you walk on the last you want a part right there. Yeah, okay Is that require a convert I'd imagine you should yeah, it will Any more questions for lucky moves to prove the permissivity within the town right of way for lucky boardman that's presented Any further discussion those in favor those opposed motion carries Tom will get this to you So thanks for coming in Look fire reimbursement ordinance discussion Come on up. Good evening So I think I'm gonna Real on Jeremy in this a little bit because he was Part of the initial discussion on this it came about because Williamstown's recent actions and they passed a ordinance to allow I Believe it was the town. I haven't actually seen the ordinance. So you have to forgive me on that part a little bit I believe it was the allowing the town to build certain Services of the fire department to the people who receive the services and I believe most of it was our town residents So that kind of generated the thought of Is this something Berlin is interested in doing? They give jurisdiction to the fire chief Say again, they give it to the fire chief the fire chief came in force. Okay and the fire department we Have thought of about this in the past If it's something that we even want to do and I can tell you that We're of a split mind of that right now We have had it on our recent Agendas but we have not gotten to it to specifically address it Recently we're at the board of directors level because we've been working on the budget and the fire truck replacement plan Is where we've been push it put our energies right now? We're on I believe are on the agenda for December 5th where we're going to be presenting the budget that's That we're fine that we're finalizing right now and we were Expecting to address this more on December 5th than tonight really But I can tell you what we do have right now And it's been there's two ordinances that we have or that the town has one is the open burning ordinance And they've had that one for quite a while that one allows and it isn't technically through the fire department that one allows the town fire wardens and The police department in conjunction to give warnings and enforce People who are doing open burning without permits or burning certain prohibited materials We have that ordinance then we have an alarm activation ordinance that is for both the police department and fire department for the various Alarms in buildings around here That one we've had for a few years. We haven't really used it and kind of have a Question as to who is supposed to be billing it because the The ordinance says civil penalties shall be assessed and collected in accordance with Vermont statutes And I'm unfamiliar So since that we're bringing that in line with the thing we talked about yeah We have a little bit of work to do with that and we are I'm going to a class the beginning of December to learn about municipal Ordinances like that because I'm not just sure whether we really have the legal right to do what's in the ordinance Oh, okay, but it would be really good. So So maybe it's good. You're not using it, but anyway But we hope to correct that So in that case, we may have some And I guess we'd certainly have to modify the ordinance, but I think it's and you happen was that for false alarms that was for Basically false alarms it was for alarms due to Systems not being maintained or being tampered with someone and so and it was up to the fire chief whether it would be billed or not Yes, the fire chief and the police chief for it respectively for each type of alarm system And I think one of the motivations for looking at this was when the fire department responds to hazardous materials call Our motor vehicle accident on the interstate They will go and do that work and Go right back and the town of Berlin Through the fire department's appropriation pays for that So regardless of whether that's a Berlin resident or not, we you know, we absorb those costs This is okay. I mean a lot of cases, but that is the the third part We have is we have a department policy, but it is not backed up by any ordinance The department policy says that we bill $250 flat fee to out of town Car fires in other words if you're from Roxbury you happen at the car fire number 12 in Berlin We're allowed by our policy to give you a flat $250 invoice But and we have used it for like that on it, but it's really an honor system For that case and the same thing we do have a hazmat building policy With the various certain rates and the reason we established that is because hazmat calls are expensive They take a lot of time. They take a lot of materials and Use a lot of resources and so we've established a billing policy for that But again, it's still basically an honor system, you know, if the insurance company says we'll pay it They'll pay if they don't want to pay it We don't have any any stick behind it. So it's soft And that's what Berlin has right now I'm just a reference I did look around in the neighboring towns and See very city does have a Fire mess reimbursement ordinance as well and it some a little complicated. You might want to just look at it online I found it on their website established it in 2013 I believe and it allows them to invoice for quite a few different services to both in town and out of town residents on different circumstances and then Middle sex has a In 2013 they enacted an ordinance that allows them to invoice for out-of-town car accidents and for hazmat calls Is is what middle sex has then you have Williams town that just did theirs and The only thing I was able to find with my pillier is they have Basically a nuisance alarm activation like if you are testing your alarm, and you don't tell my pillier Fire department that you are testing the alarm and they have to go they can give you a hundred dollar fine There all in middle sex in all of them are municipal departments I Yeah, and that would be it that would be another good question is if we do decide to go forward with Inordinates of this is how is it going to work? Who does the billing? Who does the collecting? It's it's a little different than And do you do any billing now in my understanding that it's soft It's we do our own soft billing right now Yeah So people pay you. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know whether it's a town board and it seems to me that the financial I think it would take an incredible burden off the fire department if it was done by the town you've got the resources and Diane What we used to doing that where it's right Yeah, we're not used to doing that right if for some reason we were given authorization to do that. Honestly, I would Suggest we would basically look at our accounting service to do it instead of us and turn it to them and say you guys handle it We're firefighters. We're not Ordinance is what bothers me is that if it's important. Yeah, there is Can you enforce it and my Would be I'd wonder, you know Can the town force it if their own ordinance yes, I think we can delegate that authority Yeah, I mean if we can delegate the authority or the animal control officer to another municipality Presumably we can delegate the authority to enforce fire related things to the fire department. I mean we already Had the expectation that they're going to be doing a lot of stuff related to that anyways How many how many motor vehicle accidents or hazmat calls or things that could conceivably Land under this illegal burns. I'm just looking at some of the other happen. I have a couple numbers right here For the year 2018 We responded to 29 car accidents in our commercial area and another Car accidents in our residential area We responded to 44 alarm activations in the commercial area and 15 activations in the residential We had six vehicle fires in the commercial area and four residential area In 2018, I believe we had a total of two hazmat calls when you say commercial area Are you talking just here in the corner? We we have districts, you know Various responses in the town and the commercial area is basically top of the hill very Montpelier Road the Highway Montpelier Junction a little section right through there where you're going to find the businesses and industries. That's the commercial area So that does include the through way. Yes So I think something that the fire department board would probably appreciate is if there's any thoughts from the perspective of the select board whether this is something that would have any legs if The fire department board wanted to pursue it I mean obviously the select board and you know the town can go and put this into play with or without the help of fire department But if this is something that the fire department board ultimately decided, this is something that that we want to do What do you all think about? Putting the town kind of teeth behind it. Well, I don't see any problem with it. I mean for me. I look at it The commercial area is he described it You're talking You're talking greater risk through a You know you got cars going by greater risk Got the bitch of the propping plant down by the junction catch on fire big risk. So I would say no problem Putting some sort of an ordinance that would be able to help the fire department Answer their calls I think the idea to here if it wasn't made clear is that this these would be filled to non-berlin residents the in the discussions We've had mostly informal discussions We do feel very strongly that Berlin residents should not be getting built because they're already paying taxes and We have an appropriation at a meeting day. Yeah, so why are we going to build them again? So then we do feel strongly about that Very city does having their If it's a malicious incident that they could build a Town resident for certain malicious incidents or the or the town business Yeah Yeah, if you're gonna if you're gonna think about this I would encourage you to to go online look at Barry Sidney's various cities Ordinances on their website and you could be you can find it right there And the same thing Well, I mean, I was just Jeremy pointed out that you can You know, I was just trying to save the fire department for having to do more bookkeeping And somehow we figure out the logistics whether you just give them credit when we give them their stipend Quarterly or whatever it is that people Or something but again, that's not it's in stone, but we can do the billing very easily here And you do raise a good point is to what's the Vermont statute stay at say about a nice border ins like this too How does it work? Well, it must work and I'm going to this class when I will come back. I will be fully educated Is your bookkeeping if you're going to shift it to the town or Think about it. Have you looked into the cost of the Nimrick module for the town? Treasure, we have not looked at that and I honestly would not know where to look for that. That's it That's a Diane question. Yeah the You know right now we use batch others. So see it's forward Recounting and they use the software that they use. Yeah, so that that's kind of If things go in that direction that's kind of a details question Well, there's the town of someone New England municipal New England Rick But we can I mean we had spoken you asked this earlier and Diane and I will get that Yes, because I don't think they could get it. No, I mean we do have any good anyway They don't have the rest of the program right? Yeah It's kind of you don't buy it a module if you don't have the software Whatever the cost of the module it's going to be cheaper than the accounts that they have there easy Okay, anything else Unless you have any other questions for me in general, but yes, thank you very much. Thank you You had the ash trees from the green power Yes, and this is something that maybe you're going to need to think about Unless you know already green mountain power Approached me and asked if we wanted to have two ash trees that are out in our yard cut when they come through They're removing all the ash trees because of the situation with the borer We have an ash tree just at the corner of the driveway and He put up Riven around it so you know which one it was and of course now is not a great time to see it But that and there's another one which I haven't found where he's put the driven But he was curious to know if we wanted them to cut it when they were coming through Now is this all in Shenmue? Yes. Is it all in town properly? Yes Well, I haven't checked number three number two, but tree number one is Is it They're doing it as a maintenance for their power lines also. Yes No cost of the town for cutting But I've got in terrible trouble with trees. I bet you have and Always yeah, I'm always, you know, I Guess if you want to just take a look at it when you when you help make a little strange This is the one out here that has the ribbon around it's a pretty good size tree. I mean it would cost If you had a are they gonna chip it or they just gonna leave it? I Honestly don't know Because one of the things that Beth was here was that Once the tree is dead and whether you burn it or split it or whatever the look It's no longer feasible for the board to live in it Right, so I'm just wondering I mean it's just gonna be cut and laid there. Maybe not More important, I mean they're gonna take it down. Let's take it away. I could find that out Yeah, and that has our tree warden or assistant tree warden way down And so I wanted to hear what your thoughts were and I was gonna send it to Beth and see what she got I was in commercial values with that tree. You know how big it is But of course now the all the mills are flooded with ash probably It was a while there was up quite a bit up in Canada make a lot of baskets Okay So that was yeah, so I guess if you if you I'll find out about how they've been disposed of it And I will check with Beth and see what her thoughts are Okay, approval of psych board minutes from October 17th Really three to one October 17th 2019 Any further discussion all those in favor Stention Thursday, November 7th make November 7th 2019 minutes with No, depictions no corrections Any further discussion all those in favor Opposed motion carries with extension. Yes licenses permits and vouchers Move to approve general fund accounts payable warrant number 20 G09 with checks one nine seven four three through one nine seven seven eight In the amount of one hundred eighty thousand one hundred eighty dollars and eighteen cents One eight zero one eight zero one eight Yeah, that's wild payroll warrant and also payroll or number 20 dash zero 20 dash 10 for payroll from October 27th 2019 through November 13th 2019 in the amount of thirty nine thousand five hundred and twenty five dollars and ninety seven cents Any further discussion all those in favor all right motion carries Um Yes, well, I have a few things I'd like to talk to you about I'd like to just give you an update on a lot of loose ends that we have at the moment You may know about them or you may not but We have The Colby Cemetery, which is a small cemetery off of Junction Road The abutting land owner contacted me last earlier in the spring and Would like to donate a bit of land to straighten out the line of the cemetery He's he's working on his estate land and So what we need to do and we had talked about this with the Cemetery Commission Is to have it surveyed and then a deed would be drawn up and that would be it We do not have to go to this DRB for that that is I'm waiting for chase and chase and Barry to do the survey and That's where that is The hazard mitigation plan that has been worked on That plan is we're very close to having it completed. I'm happy to say Paul Luciano is our Consultant on that. He will have a draft ready by December 5th and That gives the chance to look at it. He will come to your meeting on January 2nd And go over it with you at that point after Everyone has a chance to look at it make any suggestions or input on it It would go To the state usually takes a month or two to be approved and it would also be made Available to adjoining communities as per the state law Lovers Lane Bridge, which has been closed since I guess the spring as well I've been talking with the state about the best way to get that open and We are of the opinion that we don't really need to go and do a full-scale engineering Work and Fitting and so forth for that that we might be able to use There are three contractors in Vermont that they've provided the names for who have Engineers on staff, and they're also into construction. So I was going to make up a An RFP for that to see because we really just need to have the deck replaced with three Winter set construction in Lindenville blow and Cody in Morrisville and Miller construction in Windsor And if you know of any others I'm hoping that maybe we can get that Late spring or summer Richardson road culvert which seems to go on and on have a life of its own We're still working with the Engineer on that and I think with the winter weather. Maybe it's come to a standstill last time I knew what they were doing some extra borings around the area to Get more information. I am going to be putting in an application to better Roads for a grant. I did not get the grant through be trans last year, even though better rows of someone be trans But I'm going to try them for the structures grant that grant would be $60,000 if we're successful the culvert estimate and I'm hoping this is high is $242,000 so Stormwater projects you remember you had The town had stormwater projects and it narrowed it down to 20 projects that were worthwhile and then it got narrowed down to 10 and finally there were five that could get stormwater plans as part of the grant that do the region planning The town office and the highway department plan is completed And right now the other plans that are that are planned are the elementary school the fire department on Painter and Pike North and Chimney suite that mall which is on the Barry Montpelier road is Chimney suite subways in that building and Like a hairdresser in a pet store So right now the school They have had a plan they've made some comments and it's being the plan is being reworked and and also the school has due to the fact that they've been restructuring and Getting getting together that hasn't gone forward as quickly, but it's on their agenda to do fire department They've been working with the fire department on the plan and the chimney suite They've been working with them. So I thought I'd let you know The plans are going forward some more quickly than others At the last meeting you had talked about working on the tax stabilization policy updating it and I I think that's great and perhaps The committee that worked on it might be a good source to get that committee together to Give us some suggestions. I guess I'm just throwing that out. What do you think of that? So and update that Town center designation I Guess we've discussed that you know about the planning board's request for a full-time position and Again, we don't have the designation we expect is going to be applied for this Next fall now the town office stormwater project not to be confused with the other stormwater projects and this is the construction of our plan and There is expected an expected grant to pay for that construction available through the Regional Planning Commission and it is expected to be available in the next six months Town meeting the pre-town meeting usually is held the night before voting So it's usually on a Monday evening before voting this year The school is holding a meeting the night before town meeting, which means rosemary has to be there And Since you can't be at two places at once. We've scheduled the school for Saturday morning The February 29th the town meeting or the school the pre the the I'm sorry the scheduled one on the 29th at 10 o'clock is the pre-town meeting and The Monday night meeting which we usually have our pre-town meeting the school is having I guess there Which which meant we had to pick another day so we were going to that Saturday The town report the bid spec has gone out and we expect it to be back Next week. I mean two weeks when you meet again to grant the bid The town report this year is only going to be the town and it will have Basically half of what we use I spoke to you at the last meeting The public works Committee is working on this municipal wastewater system ordinance and it's not complete But I will mention to they wanted me to make sure that you were aware that Once and I have told I told Tom I wasn't going to present it to you till it was done When it was approved by them and they're supposed to be talking about that on Monday, so that's coming right along Finally I have a gentleman that contacted me smart link real estate specialist who is looking to lease town land for a cell tower and He didn't know where it was So I thought that was interesting So I asked him if he could send us a letter and tell us Which town land he was thinking of and and where it is, and I'm sure it's probably Somewhere that might be the conservation land up on Irish Hill. However I'm waiting for that. I'm just having and at that point when we get a letter I'll come back to you and Go forward with it. I Do have a couple copies of the latest league if you'd like to have one It is Won't be here for the next meeting At some point I don't Yeah Anything Executive session. Yes, please I move that we enter executive session to pursue into one VSA 313 3a3 to discuss a personal matter