 Really check it check it check it. This is unique house. It's your boy e ceo man And I'm here with the lovely amazing official mr. Mako. What's going on? Not none. You know my day will all go on man. Just taking it easy man I hear you over there complaining about your sound Really really I didn't touch it though man. I really didn't touch it man. It's just a man. Can you hear? Don't worry about it. You don't need to hear I am the engineer Hi, you do we're down here. What we had we're in New Orleans in New Orleans, man You know and and to be honest with you. This is our first Podcast in New Orleans We came down here years ago on a own two two different occasions the first time when I was pregnant Yeah, with Jamaria and the second time we was just riding through with the kids showing the kids Wanted to see new but we're just passing through so we stayed like at a hotel somewhere here Not downtown was like outside and we drove down and went tried a friend of mine is from New Orleans they told us to get any a's and all of that so we came and got some of that and That was it and they loved the food and then we left So we didn't get to really just walk around and tour and do all of that get the real experience and get a real Next time we'll make that happen man. So guess what man we in peaches man with mr. Runny man It's going down, man. I'm excited about his records peaches records, man And this is on magazine, right? It is history. It is history for history for history I do too. I've been I've been fascinated by one. I mean I was like it's it's a jewel I'm like don't touch it. You gotta be careful how you deal with it. I look at stuff different No, I know it's good. You have the you have the right eye because This store was built With the help of our people, you know because it's like if you can visualize The caterpillar Going to the cocoon and this is what came out about people, you know This is like the local paint those are here the local candle makers the local jewelers You know all the local people get a chance to have their stuff in here and I'm very proud of that Like to me That's a blessing for me, but I can share that that we can work together You know and help elevate give us a hand up which we need, you know, we all need a hand up We get a lot of handouts But not a hand up see the best thing that I love about having a store because as we have a clothing store And it's not always selling something is peep the meat the people you meet exactly understand Business 100% yes, that's what I thrive on especially when you have a good spirit. Yeah, and you can feel the other ones And you really you like immediately connect. It's not the money. You don't care At the end of the day, you feel good. I'm saying my god. That's a good encounter today You know we connected and have a blessing today It's beautiful to always tell me I remember training an employee and And Cuz our customer came in and I said okay watching observe and see how I interact and By the time I finished talking to the customer and they left so I asked the employee I said so what did you think? She was like, oh, that's your friend. You've known her for a while. I'm like, no, this is the first time I'm meeting her I've never met her before in my life But just to treat each and every one that comes through the door like you've known them for years Absolutely and have them feel welcome into your establishment. I mean, that's I think that's the key. That's the key That's what we see it for right, you know, yeah, I agree a hundred percent. I truly believe that truly because I feel like We have so much separation division in this country in the world right now, you know things upside down It's kind of crazy. We're going to a very dark deep period. Yeah, that's what to me In our power unification is the key to make this a troll to make this whole and I feel like I feel like you know when We get dumped in the universe bear naked. We all come the same way You know, we all are thrown into the earth whether we're Son of King or son of a homeless. We're coming the same exact way because you know, you got Buddha was a son of a King and Christ was son of homeless basically because they didn't have a place to live And but you have both of them looked at the world and said this is very sad We need to learn how to live with each other. Yeah, that's what message you've been trying to give us these profits People still don't get it, you know, right? And I still feel like We need to in our journey as you just said about you your interaction and your business and how your employee thought you would You were friends with a person prior It's all connects and you feel something special about people like that. Yeah, I'm one of those. Yeah, I usually would say no, I'm sorry We just appreciate you Really good. I would normally say no, I'm not that's not what I do Love conquers all that's really the language. The language of everything is love. Yeah, love is it exactly We don't have nothing. I just I enjoy the fact of being able to link with people. I mean, it's a Believe so how can you love a God whom you've not seen and hate your brother? You know exactly? So I've never seen the God I see I serve but I see people supposed to be made in his image and what I believe so I think we're all created in his in there. Yeah, correct. So so if you look in the mirror, you'll see him It's not just a saying, you know, yeah, so true But if you're not connected in a certain way in your spirit, you you won't see that You see what I mean, so how long has this business been here? We've been doing this since 1975 What before I was born a little bit before I was yeah So, you know, I feel blessed that to me and you started it It was a family business. Okay, cuz I saw a picture on the wall right here. Is that your mom? That's my mom. That's that's what when I thought I'm like, oh, maybe your mom started the business. No, okay So you resemble her but she worked the business to you know, which she helped everyone whole family work The business and you know, the only reason we do this and like doing this because I believe in the power of power of music and I believe Music heals my body and soul. Mm-hmm There's nothing great no greater healer than music and what they say if you sing you play twice I mean, yes, yeah, you spring twice. Mm-hmm, right. They say that and so I really believe that's Important I've learned that more as I get older. How important music how important music is and how important what you say is so always be careful of what comes out of your mouth. Absolutely because There's power in the tongue. Absolutely. It can kill And it can it can heal. Yeah, and we do have to watch how we present it So like I personally, you know, try not to use as many words as possible and try to share the love Mm-hmm, so they can feel it, you know, exactly and that's more important to me than anything because words are good But how you actually feel from your heart deeply Needs to be transmitted to the other person so they can feel it So how did you start this the business and why did you I know you you love the music and you But why a record store back then? Well, you know, it was easy, you know, like maybe just like there were bars in every corner There were music stores in every corner. You love music, you know You just made sense to do it and then The way I looked it like I said, I always looked at the power of music Timmy's it's The cheapest drug you're gonna get you can go up. You can go down and control your mood If you want to be in China, you can put the music on like that You know, there's just so much you can do with music and many generations of survival was because of your music kept them going kept them pumped given the strength to keep doing the next mile I mean, I can really walk out. You listen to music. There's so much power in music How hard was it to start this business though? I know you said it was one in every corner But how much did it cost to start a business? I'm thinking about the reason why I'm asking that because now to say, you know Someone might want to start a business like this somewhere, you know, cuz we viewed people all around the world can view this and They might have that idea like I want to start a record store like this. How can I do it? How much would it cost? I know it cost would be different back then what it is. No, absolutely It's a tip. It was a total different thing, right? And you know, it was a whole different structure. Was it very expensive to start? Well, I mean you have so many best when that wasn't that expensive stuff Okay, it wasn't and it wasn't even the money, you know for us. It was all about the love, you know all about And also, no one else we have so many beautiful talented artists, you know, and it's important to be a I think that this kind of feel if this country we don't pay our artists over have respect for artists, you know Until they pass away then all of a sudden they try to give them all the roses Yeah, but that's not how we know we have to learn other countries do pay their artists money That's why even New Orleans artists, they will go to Europe and wherever and they make a lot of money They don't get paid here like that and that's one of part of my I Can't pay it is to try to make sure people how can it change? Well, we all have to deal with it ourselves and yet we have respect for it because I said she put on a shrink You have a bad day. You're about to go choke somebody you drop the needle on your record player Immediately you're in a whole different world. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm like immediately fractional seconds. Mm-hmm It's like I say it's a cheapest drug you can ever gonna get my my I Got some insight and I heard that Mia X used to work for y'all. Yeah She is like my daughter honestly, and so she lived with me Well, you know, I mean we always like share everything, you know, we we live together honestly The kids, you know, we all we're all the same. You have a lot of kids because you can't But it's because of that deep love I have for people that were people so so when she was working with you What sticks out to you just far as when she would work at the store? Well, you know, like I said, it's a family business and she's She has beautiful attributes, you know, she's always sweet and warm and the knowledge of our journey in Life, you know, it wasn't just simple complicated journey but If you ever did you get a chance to meet her? No, not yet, but I will have to I will because she has Overcame her Nina there is it's a long hard journey, but it's a beautiful journey. Okay the standpoint of Life and the struggles of a young woman, you know in raising the children and Also, like she writes how our material about just really she's just a beautiful for the inside out like inside out You know in the matter even when she was an international artist, you know She still humbly Worked like the same Seriously, it wasn't like, you know, there was no arrogance in it whatsoever. So she comes back and see you all the time Well, we I we share blessings daily. Okay, that's good. Yeah with the children We all share blessings daily because I believe in blessings because to me We need to learn how to be unified in any way we can and right and to keep our units together. So I you know She had lessons with KL with the service on of With being definitely a person me of course, you know, and all the children, you know, right? We do that and so And then the sister Ashley she worked with us to like I said, we're a whole family that worked together To make this possible like when I tell you that Visualize the caterpillar going to the cocoon and this is the butterfly. It's exactly what it is We're more of an institution Than just a record store, you know, this could be a record still could be on Amazon, you know I mean one of these places, but we are in a decision where we try to give our people a chance To have a hand up Hand up so they can Learn about it Because you can learn the history of music in this store just being here with all of the the music that is in here But I want to I want to stay on me ex for a second just because I want to try to I was I'm Talking to the people around here. They say that she linked with I guess no limit camp master P Then when she was working for exactly the store I just want to just kind of the the things that you during that process knew about the situation and how it all Unfolded. He was looking for our last back then master P was yes, and you remember they were very very young people young and Me or you know, we had so much so much history and so much talent and And She helped put the limit together. Honestly. Wow. She did, you know, it's one day you have to interview her because it'll happen You have to get her story because that story is huge And how she brought in all being and all the guys over to the limit Oh, she brought them into a mystical and yes, you were the man and then she helped all the way through Helping them with their music and everything too She did a lot, you know, Tony Tell the story, okay Don't want to be a wonder yeah, but I'm just a story is it's amazing. Yes. It's so beautiful. It's just so much more It's this book in there. So what a beautiful book But what you can tell is how she linked with me whenever whenever she heard whenever he reached out to her and Found her did she call you and tell you what was going on and how was her reaction and so forth? Well, you know All that kind of stuff took place in the store because you know, okay. Yeah, this was it So he came here and he brought his stuff over to when he was working, you know, when he started Yeah, cuz he wanted the tapes to be in the store. So he had to come over and you bought his, you know, all that Yeah Have to bring CDs or the cassette tapes or because you had down south hustlers You had a whole bunch of music that he was pushing out ice cream man All that stuff was I remember the music cuz I love you. I love the music. So So during that time he would have had to bring it over here like he brought like screwed up Clicking all of them in Houston like they would have to take their music around UGK them did they was with jive So they they had a deal where the distribution was happening but certain ones when they was independent would have to bring their music to the Individual to get them to notice them. Oh, you know, I'll be honest and tell you that Our music and especially hip hop back in the days Most of the stores weren't buying them because it would of the language, you know, that's correct And so we were one of the only stores. I Would say in the country that like, you know, public enemy would come over or people Flavan All that it was stayed hanging out with us We helps, you know, how they'll tell you the story if you ever talk to them because we helped move this stuff Being UGK and all of them we helped move this up. They stayed in the store. So you've met UGK I mean our store was a center of everyone coming in on all the artists Spent that time at the store. Wow. It's a more of an institute than it is just a record store What these artists all out daily in the local artists all spent time hanging out there like for many fresh to D. I see many fresh wearing the peaches shirt because they grew up in the store That's like they were my children, you know, I mean like It's like I felt like I gave birth to these people because like You know, this is home when they came in and they Connected together and worked out together of things. We should hold this. It's a beautiful city. Wow. It's very special People are very very kind to each other here. I mean really it's all these artists, you know We're helping each other out and you know, it was it we shall go around to see man That's why we Yeah, I just seen it feel it that feel very grateful that was all have possible because you know It was just in that case of the rest of the world wasn't ready for that type of music even the bounce But I'm so thankful. I'm so thankful that you Accepted that when no one else did to be able to you know, give them that leg up. Well thing is It was easy because these the kids were beautiful. I'm serious like I said If you didn't know any better, you thought I'd be both of them. They were that beautiful, you know And I'm very grateful that I had the opportunity to share that with them You know and to do that. So we should we work together to get them where they needed to go like Even like safe baby and cash money, you know, I actually had to take their music and synergy universal For them because they were kids. They went even 21 years old back then they were young kids These people remember keep visualized them back in the those days of a very young kid So and then I had to go get that plane by their plane tickets for them to go to Universal to get the deal You know, it was a journey here that Stems back from the beginning of how people are Artists evolved. So, you know, so it's a beautiful thing Yeah, no, I just I feel grateful. I I was part of you know, able to do this and then to know Right, I know exactly how to do it and what information you needed and to be able to teach them because again I'll go back to your spirit. Your spirit is so welcoming and you know Like you you don't hold anything back You will you will teach them you will show them exactly how to do because you said they were young So they need to know how to do it And even already checking up, right, right. It's beautiful, but that's good. Maybe they didn't have nobody else to help them You know, like that's why I feel so blessed. I feel like God's given me an opportunity You know with this big family like I've growing up. I wanted a large family But I only had biological two children. So this was Very large and very very very like Very connected like I said I daily Exchange blessings KL and all of them daily like there's our day that passes by that I don't get up in the morning and make sure You know, so we know that we stay connected and we stayed together on that I'm gonna walk with the walk holding hands going where we're gonna go Explain to me helps me. That's honestly explain to me this wall that I hear about that people were getting there Their paintings put on and you would it was like a billboard. Yeah. Yeah I want to hear about that, you know on the outside of building and just how that era was when when because it's an Era that came that hip-hop pretty much embraced for sure and you were able to provide for hip-hop Could you just give us a little insight on it? Well, you know The old building on Tintelli Boulevard. Okay had this big wall, which we we used to lease out the wall You know the radio station is part of that just to have it, you know, they They would take the wall for a year or whatever, you know and put their signs on and then when Children came around and we needed to Do the marketing the wall was the best place Mm-hmm, and it was people came all the country looking at this wall because you get to see like baby and Manny, you know That you know, you know, they're it was good. It was beautiful because that's What better marketing can you have right big wall like that a big mural and it's continually changing It was changed. Yes, although a different record labels wanted to you know, get it and one year When you baby decided to have it for a whole year And That's fine, you know, that's what he wanted to do. He just said I need a whole year He approached you about it. He come talk to you. Well, but they grew up with me I mean they were in the store every day. I mean if they would they used to say you want to find cash money Go to Peaches. That's the office, you know Kids the pinball machines and gambling playing the pinball machines and having so much fun and that's what I'm like Whole all of them, you know Would be there wow entire out. So he kept it a whole year. What was that the was at the time when What did he have on it for probably that the the the one that they the hot boys He just changed it, you know, what he changed it Whatever album was working at the time. Yeah, but yeah, he said but best of he was also, you know always getting the wall too But but he had it longest, baby. No, I mean, he decided one year. He's come to go the whole year Yeah, that's baby, you know, yeah, he got to do a big so my question. I mean, just that's that's his personality All of them out of all of the kids that you knew that came into the store because sometimes you can look at a kid I know that okay, you have the it factor You're gonna be big But was there any one of them who surprised you who came in and you know, you wasn't too sure about them But they blew up over time Well, you know, I can't say that very easily because you know All of them were special. Oh everyone was individual and ever special and you know, if they want to work hard It's easy to work with you know to work together when you see people that like dying to You know to get there and it was I think the unification made it possible personally, you know, we have so much strength with each other like that. I Okay said once again, I'll leave it the man up there. That's right. And that's who made it possible And I was blessed to have the opportunity to you know have these beautiful children And they worked hard Gloria to give is that they worked they worked hard. They were they were they weren't just sitting there I mean, I'd call him asked to be when there's a new release Even at 12 o'clock a night. He'd bring the stuff to me. He would deliver the stuff to me You know the stuff came to me immediately and he would answer the phone even at 12 o'clock in the morning, you know That's the kind of situation with them. You have to know they work ethics, you know There were people who wanted to get these people worked and It was a joy to help get them down where they need to go It was a joy. So I felt privileged and plus that we could work together like that I mean like you get people that work that hard that answer the phone 24 seven You know, that's a lot and they've got the product to me right away That's and they would line up outside to get the product. Wow, people would line up on the new releases came in because they would You know putting stuff out left and right and they would line up from all Oliver to come get it. I know they anticipated those albums come out I did and it's the numbers that get them the record deals. Yeah, I know it the first contract was like 30 million dollars It's the numbers of what we sold or made it possible, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's it. So but I mean No, go ahead. But don't forget to get me as interview. Oh for sure. Yeah Well, you got you gonna see don't see him. She see Cal on there. She see silk on there She see we deal with big court. We deal with everybody Cal can reach that's right He already was because if Cal hadn't called I wouldn't I wouldn't I already know it I know it. You got to realize if I wouldn't have been down here by the talk to Cal because he calls me too And he called me and he was like such a soul. Yeah, and and I had told him when I first met Cal I was like he gave me his number. He came by our store and I was like I was like I called him one day I was I don't even know why I called him, but I was like I might be calling you a lot man I know you're a busy man. He's like, no, no, you call me anytime I wouldn't get you the number if I didn't want you to call me. So I he's that time he's Yeah, he's obviously felt your energy. Oh, he's like, you know, he's a busy man He's very busy and you know much respect from I'm so in love with the man because He's doing what he needs to do and he's doing humbly. It's beautiful. Yeah, so yeah Intensity at this power what he does is beautiful when I told him I was like, it's our anniversary man. I said, I'm probably I say what he said we in New Orleans. I say I Just come down there and then you know, that's how we just drove down just just by conversation 19 years. That was no Congratulations. Thank you. That was no planning. No pre-planning like oh, let me do it months ago We didn't we just when I talked to him. I said I will come so we didn't know we was gonna get to come by Peaches, we didn't know nothing. Call me early in the morning. He goes problem Someone needs to do a podcast Thank you so much It was respect when I when I had to do I felt it man that just the the I felt the history That's what I felt. Well, you're supposed to because I'm telling you that's what I feel You know, I say it's the butterfly coming out the koon. This is the butterfly Yeah, you know, you can feel the energy in here Yeah, and also keep in mind in this particular building we took about 10 years strong of fine building To move to after Katrina. Yeah, we got to talk about pre Katrina and post Katrina because that's why we no longer Weren't chilly right because we had it and then People in New Orleans Tower records moved out they pulled out and everything and they didn't have a record store So they call and ask we do you want to put a local record store in the quarter? We're just kind of an honor in a way because you know, they don't usually Ask a small mom-and-pop kind of store to do that. That's so true And so we did do that, but it was not very comfortable for our people because parking was a pain, right? You got booted, you know ticketed And all that some stuff in the quarter and it's not comfortable for people Yeah, and the artist when they were trying to load on loan they're gonna take us and booted and all that And so, you know, it was not a very exciting location, right? And so we prayed I prayed hard for like a long time we took ten years to find this building Wow, but this building is very special. It's almost like a Used to be an old Woolwoods, okay, and um in the 60s The sit-ins the civil rights sit-ins took place in all the Woolwoods Stores, you know, the young kids college kids would go sit in the water asking for yes You know asking to be served equally. Yeah, and so it was in the Woolwoods that this took place in New Orleans. This is The first sit-in right here On the counter. Wow. So it's really powerful. It's really beautiful You can feel that energy in here. Mm-hmm, you know, and they would have like meetings here quietly and Dr. Martin Luther King would have quite meetings quietly in here, but they don't talk about all that stuff anymore Don't want to discuss it for whatever reasons Close so it's not like it's no son. It's such to do with the Political struggles the civil rights period and all that kind of stuff those people that were there the sit-ins from in the 60s I'm still alive and they tell that story quietly, you know But they're willing to have too much publicity for some reason I don't know what that is but but I mean, you know But they like to see those guys as those were kids then, right? Right Lady that he told you that we interviewed down there in in Birmingham, Birmingham, Alabama She's at a civil rights center. So she was telling us a lot of things about what they did That's what her whole deal was about because she was a when she was a little girl The kids that got killed in that church in the church Those were her friends and she it was just by chance that she wasn't there that day So it was stuff like that we go and research and we would go there and visit her all the time God showed us favor with that woman So we would always she's a what about 75 77 she would always she would always embrace us and and she's so passionate about oh man And so I mean that's what I said That's probably the only is that we've done a few businesses, but it hadn't been a lot We usually at our place, of course But we usually go to like conferences and oh, yeah, but but because certain people it's a it's a history It's a feel you get exactly you walk in and you can feel you can feel yeah And you want to make sure it's special in the connection doesn't matter about I know the listeners are gonna love it But at the end of the day it really don't matter because boss talk 101 is here Me and my wife is here history and we get to meet you so that matters to me and I really I'm kind of weird like that No, no, but you know people as you said about your employees and earlier, you know people buy each other You know like I mean you feel some sense you feel the power the connection. Yeah, and it makes it easier to communicate It's not even words. You feel like okay You know, it's beautiful experience. Yeah, and in here's a plaque back at the end of the wall You'll see a plaque that we put up there That's describing a little bit about the diner, you know, this really yeah, so like make sure you Definitely, I need to take a picture of that. Yes, and then there's a big plaque. Okay. Yeah, I didn't even notice it I want to just you said I'm a big PMC fan. So that would you GKMC. They all stayed at the store every day. That's what yeah Yeah, yeah, I'll spend with baby in them too. Correct. Correct. So they spent all that time just sitting there we should You could have visualized the store because all these kids just stayed there after school Andy fashion Gregority and all those guys just came in this way they hung out This is they you know where they came in hung out. They love music, of course, you know They loved it because they still do it to this day Mistacle all of them. Yeah. Yeah, but you know these They all they all did positive things in my world. I mean, yeah, they were positive They went the right direction and coming from nothing. That's a whole lot. Exactly all the time being able to take Like you know, so the way we have a structured, you know, a certain percentage goes to the St. Jews mission to help to help of course, you know, of course because I always believed that I like St. Jews. Yeah, me too. I always believed that You gotta like work with your communities, you know, strengthen the community because that's important They're doing that. You're also like if you give them a head up you can keep the crime down You have to walk like that, you know, you have to keep the crime down Nobody wants to live that type of life, but unless you get off with them opportunities What did you expect from people for survival? You're so say you got like that's right That's what percentage what I take in here But since 1975 we give give we have to that's where they get support, you know Yeah, I'm not very I'm not the person that can do the support part by giving them, you know that Mm-hmm There's a lot of times, you know, people have problems but drug problems alcohol whatever but these places like the St. Jews, they were working to help them out They you know, they give them all the help they need and that's what I think a good thing to do So we worked on that So we're blessed that we can try to do some things to help out, you know You know, do you still have local artists or even any artists who are newer in the game who come here? This is how the Masterpiece used to come just try to gain information. Just to try to learn, you know, learn about industry They know yeah artists come all the time. Remember with the digital world Has been changed, right? And so I don't really know exactly where they're doing going and directing right now directions because the digital world has messed up that And it's different, you know, they're not and also the kids are so consumed with computers and games They're a whole different world and turn it they need to try to understand the real game about to get where they need to go Can we still always say you have to know where you're coming from before, you know Where you have to go exactly and we've had a lot of artists who come on our show and really talk about The newer artists not really trying to get in tap with the older artists to learn certain things to be able to move Forward they just be like, oh, they're old. They can't tell me anything 100% I don't know why they don't they need to because I don't quite understand that either But I hope that, you know, they'll come to the realization and they'll understand that You have to you know, history in history of how they got there is the most important thing, you know These kids I mean Masterpiece and baby of them they came from nothing, you know But they evolved because they're willing to work hard and they were willing to listen and they wanted They wanted to do this together, you know, it wasn't all about just all my subpoena myself or baby by myself It's the whole family, you know, slim will come through as well. Oh slim They didn't go nowhere without each other those two brothers those two brothers They they like I said they lived in the store with me every day So they always was together. Oh, they were all together because you baby needs slim Is there a certain story that you remember of them being in here that you can share That they did something they did they have so many stories. Tell me one. Tell me one. That's funny or something that's That you think you can tell. Oh, no, I mean, like, you know, it was a daily activity having them around One of the nicest things I'll see about them is like And like I said, remember they came from nothing, you know, so they would all All the art their whole entourage the whole roster would be there And of course one car they all had to get in this one car, you know to get around That's how I started you know, I mean they had nothing and it was not good car was not in a really great shape Remember that My son of the tow trucks are going off, you know And help out and everything Yeah, so like you just had to live the lifetime because it was family So if something happened with them it happened with you, you know, so we we tried, you know, well, we won't work together Great, I give everyone credit for jumping and it's okay. Let's go see what's going on in here Wow, those are the old days. So it's just it's Like raising children and you all have children. It's the same thing, you know I want to ask you about to be involved to be involved, but the the barcodes like like the the parental discretion codes that you had to have on the cd Once that time came in when when the when the vocal music and all that, you know, it was being challenged Were there any times when they was threatening you guys as a business? That's to say as a business They come over and pick the stuff up confiscated we'd have to go like that rude to go to to It was it was quite painful. Yeah, it's quite a hassle Well, it was I mean that just but you know, and now it was a change. It was times changer And I think that I believe I know I don't think I'd believe that since With mass opinion and cash money when they evolved they actually changed the game. Yeah, you know Instead of slinging out of the trunk of your car. You've gotten to the real game of money real money And so that's like first time, you know, that's a big opportunity that came through For every one of the country, you know instead of just being I'm supporting your family monthly you're able to like have a life, you know, yeah Which is that was a beautiful part for me to be able to get there And that's a blessing. I'm serious. That's a blessing. Very big blessing It's I'm up there because I don't take credit for all that because you know, we all worked collectively Exactly and it made it possible. So I give you know, I give them the glory for making that bath clear You know for them to understand like you said, look at the younger the young kids are not listening They're not paying attention and then they're not going they don't know the history. Yeah You need to we gotta say when you made it is quite clear. You need you need to know where you come from You have to know where you come from I wanted to ask you about like like did you ever get a chance to meet soldier slim? Of course I was so just they live in the neighborhood, you know, I mean they all live in the neighborhood and Philip Fraser is just he's just stepped in. Okay. And his mom, you know, they they've gone not that far away And I'm very very close to them, you know, because we interviewed a sister yesterday. We did Peaches yesterday. She's a sweetheart. She love you. She I adore her before KL even told us to come here She told us to come here. I adore her. She was like, I could call you you need to go over peaches She she have a set up in the back. She let us use it sometime. Oh, this was because her and KL never talked yesterday So this was just her heart pouring out to this place. I mean She's like she's gonna help you no matter what families grew up Those families grew up with me like her dad. Okay, Philip Fraser is The head up rebirth breastband. Okay, you know, that's pretty big the rebirth. That's the biggest Most recognized breastband. Yeah today even The songs like feel like bunking it up do what you want. That's all her dad's stuff, you know And he they started together when they were in high school With Comet Ruffin the operation Comet Ruffin, you know, they were the leaders and they they worked really hard They worked every day. They kicked every day well Well Ruffin went a little bit for on his own because you know, he had the kind of the satchmo voice Yeah, he did like the reincarnate of satchmo came through, you know So he did his own thing But Philip kept that band going and they played everywhere and now Phillips another one I would call him any time of day. He always answered the phone Always gave me answers always, you know, it was a beautiful thing And we were able to sell their music more than anyone else in the country because you know, like that's our music Yeah, that's that is our music and that music Back in the days all our hip-hop and all the stuff that we are dealing talking about now Yeah, that's the stuff that kept people Starving a lot of food or kept us happy, you know, this music was And brass band stuff is a happy music Yeah, no, and I call it a certain medicinal like it's truly medicinal. It definitely medicinal It's therapeutic Exactly the minute you put it on even though you're hungry and you're tired Meets you get to that. I mean like immediately. Yeah So she lived, you know, without the parents. I mean, she's beautiful and beautiful and I'm very proud of her because She's excelled Yeah, she's excelled The the music down here is different. They had a bounce sound one while they still that's their core sound many fresh One of the dopest artists just like that ever, you know, for me produced that bounce sound, you know, I mean like this He pulled it with a rolling, man. It was just nice. Oh, I at my age. I can tell you I love it I mean seriously, of course Maybe if it's smart every single track of his laying He would bring it and plate the store and see the audience, but you know reaction to it Oh, yeah, he would always do that. Oh, yeah, because you know, there was no way we did not know every song or every You know, there's no way because he you know, he made sure it's just marketed. There were no computers or anything to do it Yeah, I mean he had to you know, like these guys worked very very hard They don't have the help of what we have today. You didn't have no computers to do that I mean, they had to really so I mean It was beautiful. All how this thing bloomed and emerged and the work they did Kind of give them credit. They all worked very hard. Wow, man. Just Just a delight to hear. He was a little bit You know, he he was a little bit more Of a visionary, you know, yeah He really that's why he is who we used today even, you know, he's got an amazing vision And he was all willing he's willing, you know to do this Yeah, yeah, he was always always seemed like a business mind. He tells the story about his parents Yeah, given his grandparents giving him $10,000 a month one of his grandparents gave him $10,000 and he went to la and he Got him a store You hear this story and he played basketball and he played basketball. So this guy was so they're a little bit more And Enlightened did you ever have a chance and this may have been before the music because it was so early on Kevin Miller's brother that passed away. Was that before the music or do you even remember? No, I remember all of them. You know, yeah Kevin Miller was alive and and during the time the music was circulating Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, my dates remember, I'm already correct. All like get all mixed up So I wouldn't be answering that very very well. Yeah, I I suppose to get sick if I get sick. I can ask you exactly and um Who's Kevin Miller? That was that was his brother brother that passed. Okay. Yeah, and his children come and visit You know, really he did have children I didn't know that I definitely didn't know that They come to visit That's nice, man But they're they're they're pretty close though, you know seize children all the other fairly close They're pretty close. They're very they're close, but they're also very kind, you know, kind Good They've done well. I mean the kids have done something, you know That's the whole thing that people don't talk about and think about the kids have to come up in and Now they have to readjust and put themselves in a situation where they can't even Move around like others used to move around. So it's a different lifestyle for them So they have to be going to school. They've gone to school and you know got educated and doing something positive and I always see bird man son. I'd be like this dude is extra quiet like my son Like my son I talk a lot, but my son's ain't gonna do no talking But his son always bird man son always seemed quiet to me when I would see him He's a young man and I just like I said, I always I did good as far as with people from Louisiana I always loved the people from Louisiana. I would always say spirit though. That's what is your spirit I would do good with them every time. I don't I mean, you know that don't don't get me wrong There's people that may not like me, but I'm gonna still love them anyway But at the end of the day, it's like man, you know, they were welcoming you they were very welcoming But, you know, a lot of me remember this is where a lot of things started here. You might have some family Here, yeah, we feel it. You know, you gotta you gotta look at well I was more than five miles from Louisiana. I'm like and on the Texas side So I'm right there Cattle Lake is what separated me and Louisiana and Cattle Lake run in Louisiana people have to like go places to make Money though. So you remember and also stories are left, you know behind because struggles rule And you know, they went play wherever they could to go get to work. Yeah. Yeah, so like, you know, you probably Your soul's in spirits here. So we feel it I thank you so much. Oh, that's a good thing though. You want to be you want to feel that you want to feel Universal like that. That's it. That's it. So the deal the most striking deal I know I heard you say 30 million earlier because I believe that's what Birdman them guy from universal when they first Soter P though. That was be he got the same thing. That's what I remember I didn't know that already with all my mad memories Yes, I thought it did what he would priority records or something. Yeah, but still yeah, but he still had his dealings Well, you know, yeah, I mean I said P Paid attention. He learned, you know, he learned a lot. Oh, yeah, he was first. He was early on Absolutely, and he you know, he was doing you need a you need a movie on your life Man movie on the whole movement Well, yeah, you need to put something together because people need to know the journey so they can maybe Hopefully benefit from it. Yeah, you know or learn to see what how it evolved at least that information should be there Because these people the kids these kids worked so hard and needs to be exposed, you know Because it was like Wasn't like magic. It was overnight. I think it was hard work to lend to it There's a lot of but the thing is that you see people don't ever realize the importance of learning about your history until you're older And then you're like well, I wish I had sat down with my grandmother my great-grandmother However, and just um record because back then growing up We didn't have recorders where you would just sit unless you were rich right to sit down and You know and record people but right now you can just take your phone. Yeah, and just ask the right questions and be like Okay What happened in when you were this age and so forth so that they can now take that information and pass it on to their kids and teach their kids right There's a gap in our generation where You don't know that much information of how you're what your grandparents went through what your mama went through your dad went through and so For it is true You don't know because you didn't ask as kids because I remember I was I'd fought with that I had my grandmother at home and but I was like No, I want to go outside and play I want to do it's all about when you're a kid is all about you you want to have fun You want to do this you want to do that? Yeah, but as you get older I'm like, you know what I wish I did ask these questions I wish I I could hear the stories about all the cousins and all of this and that what you went through What do you remember your grandfather or your father going through? You know what I mean? So true It's a big gap. I just I like I said the one thing we can say that's positive is that When you see like platforms like this someone and we started asking the in-depth questions and talking to the people Who really was a part of it that is a step in the right direction That is a part of us utilizing the resources for the times that has changed to try to connect with the people who have the answers Now my mother of course, uh, I didn't get to meet my grandmothers. They lived in Seattle, Washington when she passed away, but I The thing you got to understand is my uncle who I had I was sitting in the back of our house in the back of My garage and I would just sit there and talk to him for hours Just asking all kind of questions about it because I never got to meet her because she passed before I was born Do you remember all the answers that he gave you the ones that are core the ones that I want to be able to deliver to My kids if they want to know then yeah, you know, and then of course my mother I know, you know with my mother I'm definitely one that can give them the answer that but you think our kids are interested in that Not as children, but if you have these things recorded and have it somewhere where when they get older they can pull it out because the one thing You know growing up we have pictures of our parents grandparents What what would you give to be able to have a recording? Of their voice to hear that voice is like you could actually see them in front of you Hearing them, you know what I mean, but you don't have that all you have is pictures You can hear from what you remember But it's a difference when you just see them compared to when you can hear them. You know what I mean, of course I'll talk doing that right now with you. Your kids will be able to see you for a long time That is so true, right? No, it's good though. You know, they can read when they get older They can see you so they and hear what you have to say and all that. It's really good Yeah, we did we did kind of like but of course the struggle has been real Okay, yeah, look at people people struggle really hard to survive and to give the children There's somebody single parents You know, that's where the grandparents are taking care of the children The struggle has been real even at this point in time in the in this country for sure Struggles real people are still trying to you know get where they need to go And that's what the separation has not been good for us because Only in unification while we're going to be able to attain what we need to attain It's so important to you know be unified It's very important to change That's what's going to make the changes are us being unified, you know, we need to be connected It's going to use that strength to get our voice back. Great. You don't know We don't have a voice. We lost our voice Because we're so separated. That is so true. I was so busy worrying about this right some that right and this right Well at the end of the day, we're going to the same place You know, regardless of whether with the child of a king or child of homeless We're going the same way. That's right. So that's why I say like I believe we all need us Hold hands and get the journey go together. That's why I do the I send the blessings and she had blessings I am a firm believer that it's like important to me. I know you say you love music So I would love to get your top three artists of all time dead or alive any genre any genre That's not easy. I know because you have such a wide catalog Every show I'm so curious to know It's so hard. That's okay. Now right down. I will tell you though my way the way I am to me music is um Is a matter of the mood The mood I have I listen to all kinds of music. I listen to the So this top of the mood that you have right now it would it would change it. Yeah, it changes because like I listen to I listen to the metal I listen to Kings to rap I really do because I I know why I listen to it because I like the beats and everything I'm more of a beat person Than the words. Okay. That's her. I am need to yes The beats get me and I then I listen to words later on Exactly. That's how I am. I'm just one of those. I can tell by beat. This is going to make it This is going to be hit the beats get me So like I listen to okay category of music. So if you're happy if you're happy Who do you listen to? I mean, I might listen to let's see. I might listen to a little bit of louis and ella You know on a like a nice sunday because That's such a healer or I might want to get up and listen to the brass band And listen to all the brass band music for the day, you know, I mean I listen to all categories of music like if you're angry Well, then I need to get something to soothe me down So what would you listen to? You know, I gotta I gotta listen to something that's going to calm me down Sometimes l and louis will do that. Okay, because You look at this too They came from nothing Anyone you're listening to for the music. That's why the record play is beautiful Because there's the album cover and you see l and louis on it, right? louis came from nothing because basically Raising a pasta home and they already didn't have anything either But these two people brought music enjoyed the entire world People come from other countries. They know this their music Because they know the power of what it does to you And you look at them say those days They lived a very hard life, you know back then And to do what they did together and bring joy to the world That's huge. I mean you can't you can't you can feel it You're listening to it. You just totally come to you down and say I think I have a problem get off of it. I'm not having a problem Look what they have to go through it even you know, they're so true because you know The life was a danger a lot of times too Yeah What mood do you have to be in to listen to gangster rap? I don't really need much of a mood for that. Yeah, okay. I mean it's music is You know, sometimes it changes my mood just by listening to some things and who is your favorite gangster rap? Well, that would be hard. That would be hard. That would be hard Seriously, you know, I'll listen a little bit too popular. You know, I mean like I didn't I would I had the blessing of being around all of it. You know, right Did you have a came down? Yeah, that's what I did to park. Yes. He came down. So you met him Not I hate to say that I met him because I mean he came, you know, the breeze in and breeze out Yeah, I'm lucky to make that for you. And so the easy is the same way easy, you know, pull the truck out the day and come in, you know Joliet for that. He passed away. Yeah Yeah, yeah What about I want to ask about I had the blessings of all those people coming through because Back then no one was accepting the music or the lifestyle Including our people, right? Of course our people. I mean, I had people here Let's say and I like to shop in the store, but you know, I can't you got all those plugs hanging on there I'm not coming. Yeah. I said, well, you want your gospel and your blues and jazz have it I know these kids. Don't worry about it. Just come over They'll be okay. They're not they're not they're not gonna kill you. They're not dangerous. They're not dangerous And that's how when people did they come in still? reluctantly all the ladies like My children can't come in here. I'm like, oh my god Oh, of course when they got the record deals and all this now they want to be Now they want to be part of it. Oh, you think it's not baby. I've got about these fancy cars I want to move and all and that's the beat me like, oh, it was a whole different scene They changed their tune once they seen that's how life Then it's just people that people are sad to see that people are not real In certain ways people can be fake and they don't it's fake love It's not real and and and they they they just running after something that's shiny And and it draws them Yeah, because if they lost the money, they would go right back to the people will go right back to treating them the same way as How they used to treat them Well, I think it's because of like lack of awareness You know a lot of us we have beautiful people in this in this country In the universe too, it's not that they're bad people They are misinformed they're misguided And they don't know who the right person in charge of everything. That's good. That's good And that's what's all about the fact that you don't know where you come from You don't know why I mean you're busy Humiliating all these sparkles and and all this stuff, but you don't even know why you're accumulating them right and and we are not given We're not given a piece Of deed saying this is your universe. You did not giving us any of that You remember where it's a one-way ticket a lot of things don't pass down to somebody told me a story one day And I never thought about it like this. It's just like say your great-grandmother used to love to cook chicken in a certain pan and So her daughter started cooking it in the same pan because she thought that that's how it's supposed to be done Nobody ever turned around and asked grandma like why do you cook that in that pan if Exactly they found out they realized that the only reason they cooked in that pan because the handle broke off of the other one That she was supposed to cook it in so that's the reason why she started doing it in that but It started going down generation and generation thinking that's really how it's supposed to be But not realizing Exactly you didn't ask people are like misinformed misinformed And you know, this is why we need to change it by being who we are And realizing that we need to stay unified and we need to share the love, you know because That's what it's all about. Are you born and raised here? No, I said I am raised here. I'm alive, but I wasn't born yet Yeah, because you don't really have a New Orleans accent as my course Why not where were you born? Where were you born? Well, the born has nothing to do with it because it won't matter But I did go to high school in New York for a minute. Okay, so that's that that's what it is And mostly you know, like I talk to people all over the world So your your vocals change when you're dealing with different people And you'll find that you lose your accent talking to people You know, because you're talking to all these People that come through it's you're so right because sometimes you can be Talking to somebody from a and all of a sudden your accents start to like gravitate to their accents Now you said it. That's exactly what happens. That's what's going on with me. You know Let me ask you about bg bg We met bg. Yes in vegas. He's sweet long time ago. Long time before he got locked up Of course, I mean like bg's bg's record Choppa city is a record I sent to the universal to get that contract. Really? Yes bg was the first one to go with bourbon him. He was the first one. He was a very young kid. Yeah But bg's record that that record is the one that started creating the whole thing. That's right That wasn't those numbers. Okay. It's too bad that he had these problems. Yeah, which eliminated him being on time to go to You know universal they said Sometimes you had to be there the sometime, you know, and there were much difficulties and his mom Um, and I'm very very close like, you know, okay Because um, she also she helps help like help me my mom before she passed. Okay. She she helped be with your mother Yeah, yeah, so we're very very close family. She you know, I mean in fact, she always felt itself Spend blessings every day too. Okay, because you know, that's our family, you know Yeah, so bg's my my own my own shoulder too, but it's just that his situation is creating A problem, you know, it's like I think he's about to come home. He used to be coming home, but you know It's too bad. He had to serve that time. That's right. He didn't do anything bad. Yeah, you know, it's just problem How many years has it been? It's about 12. He's only 15. Yeah But anyways, he shouldn't have been there. That's not the price for him. He doesn't help him It doesn't help him. No, so like my heart hurts bad when I think about him, but He might have as I was talking to her was carol He might have kept him alive That's what I say Because you know, you never know, you might be sitting in front of somebody that's a walking miracle I'm just being real. That's so funny because there's another guy named hot boy west that's been on our show Yeah, and he said the same thing. He went to prison for Um, how many years did he go for? It wasn't that long. He's only 27 and he did 11 years 11 years And he's only 27 and he's done 11 years of his life in prison And he said if it wasn't for that He prison saved his life probably would have crashed out. That's what they call it so forth And when we posted that clip on social media, there's so many people underneath had said that That's them as well because prison saved their life Of course you have people who are haters and feel that because you say something like that you're glorifying prison But you're not because a lot of people need that sit down time because no matter how much you have Because the thing I can't understand being a parent or being a mom You hear some of these um adults come on here and um and say it's the camera and say um I love my mom. I love my mom and I would do anything for my mom I would not hurt my mom But you same one will turn around and crush your heart By doing something that will end you up in prison when you know that she needs you to help with the pay the bills Take care of the family do the different things, but you love your mom so much You know what I mean and I just could not understand that but prison do save a lot of lives whereas When the mom can't tell you don't do this and you would listen because you love her so much because of habitual ways Prison will make you because you're not in society that has all of these distractions. It'll make you sit down You know what I mean? I I had told them said because basically it's like a An enforced vacation where you have to stop and think a little bit, you know But I don't think that the prison systems That we have are good Because it doesn't really rehabilitate anyone and I think they need to make changes on that You can't treat people like animals and just throw them in cages You know, we need to like find ways to once in a while give them the handoff they need, you know And there are some places that have done pretty well with some of the guys While they were there, they found a school and you know Done and counseling and yeah I'm not saying but now Individuals even own prisons. So that's right. I think they need to check out Tech that hold and evaluate what do we need? For humans, you know, how do we give them respect respects what they need Most important ingredient in life for a human is respect They need love and respect for those two ingredients they Evolved to who they are That's so true Politics run everything though. Politics runs everything No, because you can say politics It's like let's get down to the like like the individual like you just said that may own the the one who's pretty much Own in them. They have to make money Uh, you got to understand if no one goes to prison The money is not as lucrative It is a business When I said politics, I meant with the money and the business and all of that You're perfectly right. It's a big business. I mean big money. That's why they need to really see How do we do to reevaluate a thing for human dignity? You know, it's important to give you give a person love and dignity. They might not have at home either That's why they were they are what they are What about criminals? What about see murder? He's been going forever And uh, I know you met him. I know you seen him here He would he he was a native that loved to stay here. So no, he's my heart, but he he's the realest one And I'm sorry. He's where he is, you know, it's like because He shouldn't be there. You really ever come out Working on it, you know, it's costing a lot of money. He's all once again, it's a big money business I hate to say that same thing with mac, you know, it was a big money business If you ever get a chance, you could possibly get a chance to interview him. Okay. Okay, even though he's there I've just started connecting. See, you know, we can get her together just depending on how this person's systems are You would love to But I'll have to it'll take me a minute to Try to talk, you know to see how they will do that but mac is now back and you can get k l to bring mac Okay, because max served a long time too. Remember. Yeah, he did they I seen him. He's back now. He's back now I see them on I see them on a couple of shows. This was a kid You need to you didn't need to talk with him because max spent some time with c so he can give you some more information Yeah, that that's he that's good. You can call him and have him come meet you over here whenever Max doesn't live that far away. Oh, okay. Yeah, and k l connect. Yeah, you want to get k l to connect for you Yeah, yeah for sure. He's coming in. He'll get he'll get me here and he'll get mac to come Yeah, yeah, I want to get those two the history is something else man. Just that's what you need though, you know my I only showed a lot You are the mother out there exactly, you know, but you need to hear the journey hear their story That's more important to me than anything else. It is me. Not glory. If I had I want them to get You know, all right this story told Yeah, you know, that's the most important thing to me. It's very important because it actually people look at it and And to be honest with you it helps a lot of people to know that they can make it through as well Exactly Because some people to do that much time and then come home. Yes That's another person know that hey, man, I can make it through exactly I can get out. I may make it home It seemed like everything was all else feeling but I heard this podcast and now this give me an episode She said, okay, I can do this too. Yeah, that's right. That's why you want to talk to them like that Mac spent a long long long long time and do you want to hear a story and you want to be able to like Share that it's important to share that with others. How long well, he's he's he's What's the sentence of 20 70 27 years? Yeah, so but he's out now. So you how many years do you serve though? Long time though long time do it and I did we did we had a magazine back in the days that we He just we had back in just like a long time ago. And so actually got a chance to And interviewed them while they're in prison Mac and see mother. We just had a chance to do that So now that mac is back Have scale connect y'all. I'll do it. You want to get that's that's very powerful to know, you know And did you get a chance to do many fresh not sure though? I wish I could I wish he'd come on this thing because He's one of my big. I love it. See kale might be able to connect that. Yeah, he know will I do know that The family's all like I said, this is what the beautiful thing Your mom you should be able to pick up the phone and say come over here right now Kale is more the connector. But kale would You know because you got to make them understand why they're doing this. Yeah. Yeah And so kale can make it connect. Okay. Can you give you that that hope I think like I said, I was the people I'm funny When god gave me something I value it So god gave me you I don't be tripping. I know god has got everything lined out for us Oh, always. You know, we have that belief in you know, so when I come down here If I just came and god gave me just an interview with you I would be so pleased because I know god is real. I don't even have to trip I know that's what he needed me to do So all the other people yeah, the like I said a shiny thing looks great. Don't get me wrong But there's something about really connecting to your purpose and walking in it That it doesn't matter. I know it doesn't matter to me About who comes it just matters to me about who comes No, god gave me who he gave me and I'm so happy about I do want them to tell you because I think the story might help someone else That's exactly what it really really want that and that's what we use our mics for, you know Some people ask us what is this for and I remember one time He was asking he's like Who would be the biggest person you would like to interview, you know And everybody went around the board and said who they would love to interview that would be their crown in glory And for me, it'd be That person who walks in the door to say This interview helped me. I was about to commit suicide or about to this about whatever and Exactly that I heard this and it changed my life. Exactly. That would be my crown in glory This is why I'm suggesting these people. Yeah, correct, you know, even even interviewing Soldiers some some other Because k l probably can connect that possibility. I asked peaches yesterday. She dinner. What did I ask the mom? Will be nice. I don't mention it. You mentioned it. Yeah, you did you asked. She'll be who did I ask? She'll be willing to come do it She'll be willing to come to she's usually been asked She's had a few health problems See if you can get her to come in we interviewed a gentleman named Paco He was friends with greatness. Do you know who greatness is? I know Paco. No, greatness. What's his name? He was he did it Something greatness. It was this was just in 2017. So this wasn't he died. Um, he got killed at the Wafa house That one morning and he was a good. He was a good artist, man I knew him because I followed his music and he was from His name was a young greatness young greatness. Yeah, but he did a great job, man I just always looked I was going to meet his parents. That's what that's why you brought that up I was like because that's the first thing I said, man I love the time because his his run wasn't a long run and I just don't don't want it Nobody to forget him No, you understand. Yeah, of course. So if I could talk to the mom That would have been and then also like connect with BG's mother That would be nice. Like like those are the things but also she's working so that I find out if I can get her to come talk to y'all Okay, that'd be good. I always just like I'm always open to whoever god give me and we'll drive back down here because It's only six hours. Yeah off-lie Our fly Yeah, I mean I'll I'll have to ask Miss Cynthia if she wants to come do that for you should because then she can tell y'all That's what the story that about our son in the early days of a son. You want to hear all that too? Yeah, you know and you want to hear out the only this You know soldier sim and bg and kale and all of those guys children that work together Yeah, to do what they did. You know, I think I'll tell me that and he told me that kale told me this story about burry man Master pea soldier slim and two other guys. He was Producing body body and they was all freestyling to it at his house It's every day. So I said we lived Like that you get on something. Yeah, you know, like we all live together I thought that was like why live together as one so like people don't understand this community. That's how How we are, you know When we say we all want we basically feel like that Yeah, this is this is something you can't make up There's no way you could have ever knew that this was gonna happen No It had to be organically done. Absolutely. You know, man. It's the grace of the man of the it's always been peaches is a great place of business Um, I love the layout man. I never knew about kale the one turned me on to it He was like you gotta go over there that that's he was like, uh, she's that's where you want to go Everybody's saying peaches. So god pushes you where you need to be this is their home. So that's why and they built it We built it like that we built it where people have a home to come to so they They can do what they need to do with dignity. You know what I mean? Yeah, like We need that. This is the reason why this store was important to me is because It's a home. We don't need home. They can come to do, you know, their record deals, whatever they need done Yeah, you know, get in here and do their in-stores You know, I I sound screened for them and get them on billboard So like all these things are like tools they can, you know, they At my store it's until it was a tiny little store, but this is huge But this gives them that opportunity when they're ready How big was the store when you first opened it because I had to be I mean, this is 10,000 square feet Of course store. It wasn't just a typical little, you know, so yeah, it's another big the first one was small It had to be yeah, I was small. Of course But I was one of the biggest store because everyone hung up hung out the store and we needed a place to like Something to perform a stage to perform and you know a place to get the work done Got it. So you had live performances there at your store. Yeah, we did But it had a lot of people that come to it too. Oh, you had to kind of do it outside because there's so many people So many people right. Yeah, it was quite but just what you don't have any recordings from any of that You know what he taped it videotaped it. No, because I mean it became like a festival Right, you know, you have and with basically on the parking lot kind of thing, you know people Very good space. It's a whole different thing. You know people just had to work up because now You just had to be there. Now it's easier If they want to do it, you know, but they're a little older now So there's a division they're raising kids visions different If you get a chance to talk to pnc and then probably get them to talk to you too Yeah, working with big boy and all them. Yeah, yeah, because Yeah, okay. I'll nose up here. Those Okay, I'll connect you. Okay. Oh, baby. Yeah, he's a connect. He's a middle But the thing is like that's family's what families here are so you know, there's no malice with each other We help each other. It's so beautiful. So that's why I'm feeling very blessed No, that's right. Yeah, that's like a gift. I mean where can you go? It's like a little small piece of heaven. I don't have a gift To be able to keep this bridge going for as long as you have with these people that connect them with each other Grace of God We'll give them a glory that is a gift because in the glory a lot of people couldn't have done this There's no way You have to have something inside of you to keep this going most important greenest love You gotta have love. Love makes everything evolve, you know It's like he goes slow How business with the way how the industry changed where people are not doing CDs as much anymore people everything is going internet based Downloading streams all of that. How is business where you know, that is concerned. Well now it's changing into The vinyls. That's right. I noticed it. It's coming. It's all the vinyls now. It's coming back Meaning it's back. Everything's on vinyl now. Right. So you saw business started coming. Well, the thing is they came to the understanding that that People need physical copies. People need something to touch You know, and you need you need to be able to read the line of notes You need you need that and you need to have a clearer better sound and all Invest in a record player and then you'll you'll be able to understand that No, but my daughter my daughter. She wanted one She wanted one two years ago and I got her one But I got her a little because you know how kids are I want this now and then they don't ever use it So I got her a little one from Walmart, you know, she played it for a while But then it stopped working and she was just like, you know, no, that's that's like getting her a fish of price My generation had these little regrettably as all children and it was called fish of price, right? Now you need to get a real system And that makes it different because that yeah, it just Y'all enjoy it and the nice thing about the record player You know with the digital world and all everyone got into all their headphones and to their world The computers and the games and all there's no connecting, right? But the record player to me it's like Back in the days families were sitting on the dinner at night And they would have a bowl of soup and they would and they would talk Well, the record player is that kind of thing. It's like you will say hey guys Have you heard the Tupac and someone else who comes up with something else? You know, just it helps connect all different types of music and it's good. It opens the door We had one growing up back in Jamaica But mine used to be you know, the big ones I had the speakers and you turn the top up and yeah So we had that and we had a huge Collection of vinyl everything from Sammy Davis jr. To Dean Martin to you know, Jamaican music to I mean just everything my parents collected like a huge array So when my father passed away my mom moved up here Is like I wanted to carry all of those vinyls with me, but I couldn't catch too much It was too much and it hurt my heart to leave that behind because I knew that number one vinyls was coming back But Exactly That's too not too late to get a good turntable Into your corporate any house because it opens the doors for everyone seriously. You'll see that It's a real reason why it's back. Is there a product like if you get an uh Album that is had nobody else got that puts more value to it Collectors up. Do you able are you able to understand that algorithm being that you're in this industry? You have to understand that sure that people are collecting. What is the most uh sought out of a collection that you've possessed We you know because I carry all different categories of music and I have a lot of things like that, you know, so It depends on what the demand is but deep down collectors are what keep keeping the business alive too because these collectors are like They've been doing it for a long time. Correct collecting but keep in mind though You know the europeans and asians never quit pressing vinyl The americans like for 30 years Stop pressing vinyl and they got into this digital world and all that stuff and so our you know our um Collector side no All our pressing plants have been dormant and can be used so for a while So they have to send everything to europe to get pressed out And now they're getting machines and they're doing some of it, you know pressing it again, but the machines Are so overworked now. They can't keep up with the demand. You don't have enough machines And so people are waiting like eight months a year to get their product pressed out But the sound is very different. It sounds better And you know, it's lifetime because It's there as long as they care of it. Exactly. It's not it's a good thing It's a good thing about it. Well, I hope we did done your justice. Don't be enjoyed. Yeah, man. We had I had a blast Okay This was this was a great interview for me because like I said the history that you and tell here in New Orleans, man Hey, man. I'm loving it. You know what I mean? And so I I can't make this up I'm I had a heck of a time and we're gonna be hanging out for a little while Um, did we we cover everything? Yes. Is there anything else you want to say? No, you're good I'm glad but but you know thing is I feel that, you know, a very nice thing a very good thing because the powerful part is maybe you touch somebody's life And you can and you can change that even if it's just one person That'll make me happy, you know Yeah, and the fact that you care enough to want to do this And on your own dime, basically, yes That's a big thing, you know, you know, you're hustling trying to make a dollar You're doing this because you want to shut the love and I I have to embrace that Wow and accept that because you know, I understand what that is like Yeah, because we do things like that too and nobody really gets it sometimes Because if they are one she's trying to make a dollar. I'm like, oh, it's not about the money If it was I wouldn't be doing this. Exactly. Exactly. There's not much money in this business to get a lot of joy But you know the joy is what I go for the love of the end of the day Yeah, and that's I do so joy conquers everything exactly money is not everything No, and if I don't feel good at end of the night, why why you get up in the morning get to work? What's the point? That's so true. Yeah, so y'all have it. Thank you so much for opening your doors to us letting us letting us Hang out and peaches well hang out because you know because we do yeah, they're coming Thank you so much for coming on boss talk one on one with a boss's talk. Oh, yeah