 G'day mate. So I was just listening to Jordan Peterson on betrayal and talked about how we all behave according to social expectations generally speaking and I'm thinking that perhaps we also tend to behave according to family expectations that Often the different kids in the family have different roles. So Say the youngest might be the rebel The middle child might be the quiet overshadowed one the eldest child may be the overly responsible one who Takes on too much responsibility Say the mother may be a bit mentally ill so she can't be expected to Take on normal motherly responsibilities And then the father has its particular role. Anyway, whatever role we become used to playing in childhood It may start to ripple through our lives And it is also true in the workplace often you have the the fevered Favorite son in the workplace The goofball class clown type character in the work workplace the irresponsible one but is is amusing and fun You have the overly responsible People in the workplace You have those who just do the very minimum, but they're reliable So anyway quite enjoying Peterson we we have these expectations for how people should behave and Then when we get into intense relationships such as romantic sexual ones if people let us down then That shatters our Conceptions of reality. We start to question how accurately we're seeing reality. We start to question who we are Question where we're going we're questioning our life trajectory. We start questioning Ability to perceive other people's character our ability to read others So So that feeling a betrayal it shatters our expectations for how the world be should work how we operate Who we are where we're going where we've been Now ability to read other people Then I was reading a cut not reading I was listening to a cartel Author of the power of now New York Times in 2008 caught in the the world's number one spiritual teacher He talked about betrayal And he noted that saying I have been betrayed This is an incredibly heavy sentiment They will They will change your personality Once you say, you know, I have been betrayed you take on something very heavy it changes your personality Then you take a change self into all your new relationships I am betrayed and he offered a reframe instead of saying I am betrayed In this case the question came from from a woman Probably about a man who'd be traitor instead of saying I've been betrayed instead We can Say something like I was in a relationship with the human being Who at one particular moment operated at a lower level of consciousness than what I expected So already that's a much lighter way of framing things He just leave it at I was in a relationship with a human being Good morning so You know, it's that often people are at a high level of consciousness but then a particular Combination of events or a certain situation or just Throw them absolutely throw them And cause them to act in ways that are just seem absolutely unfathomable and other people completely predisposed to commit certain crimes and Absolutely would do them in certain circumstances and yet those circumstances never arise and You know if men who operated very high level of consciousness mean you with integrity in in all aspects of their lives, but there are certain sexual temptations that come along and Then they completely lose their integrity. So I thought that was an interesting reframe the question of Betrayal instead of saying I was betrayed which is very heavy thing to take on which will have ongoing repercussions How you view yourself and Starbucks this morning completely empty behind me There's nothing going on there So pretty much all Starbucks Starbucks are closed. I think except for the drive-thru windows All right, there's a question in the chat Let me have a look here Doubt the Alexander technique would approve of the face mark placement went out and about not needing is to Just try strapping it above the elbow Okay Now see Alexander technique is a technique that's quite flexible so You may think it's bad Alexander technique placement because it may give me an incentive to tip my head back But because I'm directing the back of my head straight up And my whole head forward and up I'm Not tipping my head back even though I've got The placement as you can see All right Here's the book Betrayals the unpredictability of human relationships Let me Let me find the place here Okay, does the mask adversely affect the quality of the la la la's Okay, bloody hell. Let me find the Knowing and not knowing Being for oneself being for the other self betrayal. Whoops Completely losing it here Okay, here we go Here we go All right, we're going to learn about living with betrayal Whoops All right, all right, we begin here with paragraph from Robert Musel The perfecting of a love that's on the book All right And in a flash of illumination she saw a whole life dominated by this inexplicable Unremitting betrayal that one commits in every instinct in every instant by cutting loose from oneself without knowing why Nevertheless sensing in it an ultimate inexhaustible tenderness far removed from conscious thought Tenderness through which one is more immediately linked with oneself than with any of one's actions So in a flash of illumination she saw a whole life dominated by this inexplicable Unremitting betrayal that one commits in every instant. So is that just talking about coming to peace with one's humanity? so Okay, glibs got a comment. It still requires resistance to keep the spine loose, but when I'm out and about it's often on a bicycle Okay, so I got a comment there It's often on a bicycle. I presume that I have these problems, okay It's often on the where constriction is even more pronounced, okay, so I was I'll admit I've been having problems at times with my back going out Happens about once a year. It's quite embarrassing for an Alexander technique teacher to have his back go out And it's almost always after I've been biking a lot. I've got a stationary bike So when I watch movies and TV How did you get red-peeled? Look doing street epistemology So I think I got red-peeled reading Charles Murray's the bell curve I think because that just made fall into place things that I think I'd always instinctively had a feel for When I read the bell curves like yeah, this is this is how the world works So anyway regarding biking so on my stationary bike Do a few miles every day, and then I'd often have you know lower back problems as a result and so I was talking about this with the Gadi Kauffman You know who operates the website GadiBody.com G-A-D-I-B-O-D-Y calm And he said if I'm leaning forward when I'm riding my bike said yeah I'm usually leaning forward kind of resting on the handlebars. He says that's causing me to constrict certain muscles Which then will pull my spine out of place Okay, look my back always goes out in the springtime. I just went through about of it. You notice any seasonal correspondence And glib says two stores that stayed open after lockdown here And then subsequently closed a few weeks later just reopened. Okay, so anyway with biking If you're leaning forward on the handlebars, you're most likely Going to be constricting certain muscles that then pull on your spine and tug it Tug it out of place So that's what was going on with me. So now when I ride my bike I make sure that I'm Standing that I'm sitting upright and then all those problems have gone away So if you're leaning forward on your bike, you're very likely going to shorten some muscles and then muscles will tug on your Your spine and on your on your bones and pull them out of their ideal shape So that is what happened to me So when I when I let go of leaning forward on my bike and said Sat straight up then those problems disappeared. Also, I tried sleeping on a wedge and That helped me get better quality of sleep. It reduced my sleep apnea but because the the wet the the wedge was relatively short. It's only like 24 inches then It was doing funky things to my lower back, so now I got a longer wedge It's 42 inches six inches at the At the top so I sleep on a gradual incline It's sitting upright like a tweedy English professor who's what actually Actually compresses the spine No, it only compresses the spine if you are tensing and compressing there Through your unconscious habit patterns If you are directing yourself up through your spine, you're not going to be compressing your spine So Let's get back here to betrayal So this notion that you see the yourself You're unremitting betrayal that one commits in every instant. I think that refers to just It's absolutely the worst bike riding position disavow Well, people can try it and see see the results So I'm talking stationary bike here So biking out and about on the streets I'm thinking If you're completely leaning forward it all depends on if you're If if you're causing certain muscles in your in your stomach area to To to shorten because if you cause muscles to shorten they're going to pull on your spine and Knock it out of shape Hannah Arendt States in the human condition that action is unpredictable because it arises from the darkness of the human heart Yeah From the fact that every individual is unreliable because Unable to guarantee today what will happen tomorrow from our common inability to predict the consequences of an action within a community of equals in which all have a like capacity for For action and freedom to act Yeah, so Someone may say something And glib says it's important to remember that one is not sitting in a seat when riding a bike one is straddling a saddle Uh I use lots of cushions on My saddle and i'm riding a bike so I usually have two cushions two big large comfy cushions which uh which reduce the The pain that comes from sitting on a straddle Okay, so what Hannah Arendt is talking about is that uh is that we all tend to act In relationship to other people and that our actions are unpredictable in large part because We are dealing with other people and the stimuli that they give us so for example this this uh This chat this morning. Sly stream is it's gone in a little different direction than what I expected because of the I am affected by the questions of other people And that's a good thing All right, that's the difference between solipsism and intersubjectivity So solipsism means you only act and think with regard to yourself The best saddles have very little cushion Okay All right, so I I'm gonna I'm gonna react to things said in the chat. I I I'm affected by other people and so To use Eckhart Tolle's language. I may be a man of high levels of consciousness in many areas of my life But then I will encounter a particular stimulus and I'll just go nuts So Intersubjectivity means We know who we are in relationship to other people that that Who other people are and what they do affects us? and And we are we are affected and changed by our relationships with others So that's why there's so much betrayal because we're constantly affected by others. All right as Hannah Arrant puts it man's inability to rely upon himself or to have complete faith in himself Is the price human beings pay for freedom and the impossibility of remaining unique masters of what they do Knowing its consequences and relying upon the future Is the price they play for plurality and reality for the joy of inhabiting together with others a world Whose reality is guaranteed for each by the presence of all okay, so Yeah, we cannot completely Lie upon ourselves because who we are is affected Is affected by other people and as other people act we are in turn Affected and changed So the price of having other people in our lives is that we we are continually Surprising ourselves because other people will surprise us. We will then surprise ourselves in turn Like I may have been completely calm and rational for the first 10 minutes of this live stream Then someone may say something in the chat and I just may lose my mind and go on a bender Right the joy of being with the other in everyday life and the reality founded on intersubjectivity Are open to the risk of the unpredictable hence of betrayal, right so When you're with other people you're entering the world of intersubjectivity because you are affected by them You do not speak an act in identical ways When you're with Luke as opposed to When you are with uh your boss, all right Hannah Arendt coined the term the banality of evil in regard to Eichmann she was actually incorrect Eichmann wasn't a bureaucratic someone in a bureaucratic cog He was an active participant of you know what Hannah Arendt likened Nazism to Stalinism and she had a similar opinion about Zionism We live in a society guys, okay Very good all right So we'd rather live with other people because life without other people is sucks We're finding that out in the pandemic right think about how much we miss socializing being being with others Like I could really do with a good handshake right now I really love to shake somebody's hand You know I'd even like to hug some people I want to get quite quite social I haven't done things I've uh shook hands in six weeks more than six weeks. So I'm antsy So if you enjoy being with other people Then you're moving from the realm of solipsism self-absorption to intersubjectivity Where who you are is affected by who you're talking to Hi Luke. Hope you're okay. Yes. I am well. Thank you I'm doing really well So we're not the same person when we're talking to our dad It's a person when we're talking to our best friend as opposed to when we're talking to our boss When we're talking to our most important client We're affected by all The people in our life who matter to us and the more they matter to us the more we're affected So genuine generally see with malat married men that they've become to an extent gilded That they have significantly changed themselves to maintain the most important relationships in their lives That uh, they may well indeed fear their wife and for man fears away his wife. It's because He puts so much value on her And the more value you put on a relationship the more you're going to Be tempted to compromise who you are to even sew yourself out To maintain the the smoothness of that relationship Okay Arent stresses that there's unpredictability refers not only to the other but also to ourselves No one can say to what tomorrow will bring or how we will behave in the future. Yeah So it's not just that other people are unpredictable. We are unpredictable Right We're very different people when we have tooth pain or back pain Or anxiety Or simply don't sleep well. I know if I don't sleep well, I'll often go through the next day with a headache So all of Shabbat said all yesterday had this Medium to mild headache Which significantly reduced my ability to read. Okay, sometimes you have to appease crazy where corporate punishment is not legal Yeah, sometimes you have to appease crazy That's true, but it's not just other people's craziness It is uh It is everything that they are that they bring to the table is is uh It's possible to affect us And then we change whether we have a headache a toothache a backache. We're in financial distress We're in a hurry. We're going to behave very differently when I'm in a hurry Then I cut out all distractions except my one goal of of being on time Uncertainty and unpredictability are a part of human action. No doubt about that Not only thanks to the darkness of the human heart Also, because no action exists. It is not conditioned by the actions of others and that in turn conditions those actions Wow That's good. No action exists That is not in part shaped by the actions of other people No, nothing we do Happens apart from the actions of others Yeah, so Nothing Nothing we do is not affected by the actions of other people. That's a really good insight We don't No man is an island in other words Uncertainty and unpredictability are a part of human action Not only thanks to the darkness of the human heart Because no action exists. It is not conditioned by the actions of others that in turn conditions those actions So we're in a continual feedback mechanism Okay, so So someone in the chat is berating Hannah or Grant for being in a relationship with Martin Heidegger because Martin Heidegger was an anti-Semite That's why I don't find The term anti-Semite useful Because the the person stating it Is probably anti some group as well But would that be a reflection of who he is? Let's say he's anti-muslim Would we say oh no one should talk to him he's anti-muslim or let's say he poses Open displays of homosexuality and we say he's anti-gay I just don't think terms like anti-Semite Or anti-muslim Islamophobe or homophobe just don't think they're useful. They certainly don't sum up the totality of someone so Heidegger's Reactions to Jews were not the sum total of who he was He existed and had thoughts apart from his reactions to Jews So you can say many things about Heidegger and you can even say he's an anti-Semite, but I don't think that's the The most accurate descriptor of the man. He was an important 20th century philosopher I can swear to what I will be and what I will do tomorrow But I will always have to take into account that I may change my project My plans may be thrown off course reshaped by the avoidable interference of actions by others The joy of living with others can lead to both cooperation and betrayal Yeah Yeah, so we can swear When people get married they swear to be faithful, right and they the Anticipate that they usually believe that at the time But then circumstances change have a few drinks And the world looks very different So we can swear to all sorts of things and I think you know this when you encounter people who swear something It's usually a tip-off that they're unstable Because a deeper knowledge of the human heart predisposes us not to swear To as many things and in the Jewish tradition it's very negative about making an oath or swearing Because it's aware of the unpredictability of human relationships So Judaism strongly discourages taking oaths and swearing to anything All right, this is the face of Joseph Conrad's Rosimov He mistakenly believes that he can be the one and only master of his life And guide his future along a certain path But just as soon as another person crosses that path or definition lose their clarity The monotonous flow of Rosimov's life Is interrupted by the sudden appearance of Hadlon the student revolutionary who takes refuge in Rosimov's house After unsuccessfully attempting a politically motivated assassination When Hadlon confides in Rosimov That's investing trust in him all of Rosimov's plans for leading a tranquil life and all his dreams of a career as a state Functionary vision vanish The eruption in his life of young Hadlon a person almost unknown to him obliged as Rosimov to make choices He never could have predicted for him honoring the revolutionary's expectations of trust By helping him to flee signifies betrayal of his own self and of his own dreams Embarking on a life course contrary to the one he had in mind On the other hand it's honoring an unsolicited trust by denouncing Hadlon to the police would mean committing a betrayal To resolve this dilemma Rosimov is forced to redefine himself as principles and his values and to reformulate his definition of betrayal. Yes Every time we encounter someone else we may well be stimulated To redefine ourselves our principles what we stand for our values And our definitions of betrayal For there to be betrayal there must be a moral tie And he's never established ties of any sort with Hadlon Okay, so through this redefinition of himself and betrayal Rosimov arrives at a decision to turn this student revolutionary over to the police But even though according to Rosimov's own definition All a man can betray is his conscience And he does not betray Hadlon with whom he has no ties and to whom he has no Commitment his encounter with the rung young revolutionary will forever change his life So every time we encounter someone they have the potential to forever change our lives During the course of Conrad's story Rosimov becomes a police informant in spite of himself He will betray the trust that others place in him He will play the betrayers role precisely because one day Hadlon had chosen him as the person most worthy of his trust Hadlon's ill-considered gesture of trust Creates for Rosimov a destiny as a betrayer Hadlon's unpredictable gesture gives rise to an equally unpredictable destiny for Rosimov so Someone can come to you to whom you owe no obligations And they may ask you to keep a trust a confidence And The very consideration of this trust You thought you had no ties to this person, but suddenly being impaled on the horns of a dilemma Can forever change you All right, what's going on in the chat? Trotsky seems like there's a pattern of Jews who establish a cult-like following Yes yes so I'm sure you'll find that there's There's a pattern of a certain personality type tends to create a cult-like following this personality type may be higher in Jews than in non-jews. I didn't know so what would be the personality traits? lead one to create a cult-like following so You probably make people feel a certain way that you can You can answer their deepest needs I'm not sure what personality type this would conform to yeah, charisma intelligence probably some extraversion But uh, I think uh, cult leaders probably have certain personality traits Oh, they probably I think they're probably high in neuroticism Okay, so let's stop in the chat. What are what are the personality traits of the effective cult leader? In the theory of social action based on intersubjectivity such as henna around so intersubjectivity means that everything we do is conditioned affected Stimulated by the actions of others that we never act as an island We always act in relationship to others that we see ourselves in relationship to others Each individual acts always and exclusively in relation to others into their acts This means that no one is ever just the doer But there's always also the one to on whom Others actions are reflected To do and to suffer like opposite sides of the same coin And the story that an axe starts is composed of its consequent deeds and sufferings so let's Let's catch up with the chat here They use neuroticism as coping mechanism because they've developed schizoids tendencies from cptsd charismatic intelligent honorable brave Why is decisive organizing abilities or the ability to pick a close acolyte to do it? Charles Manson, that's just who I was thinking about there's a messianic aspect to it We should all engage in live high-minded sword fighting IQ measures sociopathy I came across Spinoza today. Blue Monday is the king of Bohemia Luke knows he'll have me on eventually. Yeah, Blue Monday sent me an email and glad to have you on So I didn't know if I've unbanned people. It's just that I'm I'm streaming on a different channel So I got a hate speech strike on my main channel So I switched over to this backup channel a few days ago So that may be why some people are unbanned or that Some people are not moderators or are moderators that weren't on the other channel Consequences of action are limitless because every act occurs in a medium and prompts a chain reaction That's putting a new process into motion. Yeah, that's good. So every action prompts a That's what Klausowitz said in his famous 19th century work on military strategy on war That in war we always deal with an opponent who reacts They're not passive. They're not simply Recipients of our actions, but they always react to everything we do No one is ever just the doer There's always the one on whom Others our actions are reflected to do and to suffer like opposite sides of the same coin And the story that an act starts is composed of its consequent deeds and sufferings So the consequences of action are limitless. We never know how we're going to affect other people Because every act occurs in a medium and prompts a chain reaction That's putting a new process into motion according to Hannah Arendt Action affects other human beings who are capable of acting in their turn Reactions to such acts are never simple responses But rather new acts with their own reasons for being that affect others. Yeah, people don't just simply react blindly So we act Then other people react But they don't simply respond. They bring their own They bring their own Stuff to the party Human beings are inevitably linked to one another. No act takes place in isolation without any effect on others Smallest act in the most limited Circumstances bears the seed of the same Boundlessness because one deed sometimes one word suffices to change every constellation Yeah, that's a great thought Every deed every word Has the potential to Ricochet around the world So I think that's the That's referring to the the concept of a butterfly Flutters his wings wings in one part of the world and the repercussions are felt in Other parts of the world So one word is enough to change people. So I was planning to go to Sacramento State To do my degree in economics and then Couple of sentences from my friend's father Have I read book by a packed Buchanan? I like Pat Buchanan. I'm not sure if I've ever read a whole book by him, but I've read a lot of his columns So a couple of sentences from my friend's dad said no way. I'm not going to sex state and I ended up going to UCLA instead I think that also may have been an impetus to To me to get much more serious with my education So sometime after that I became essentially a straight-A student Being with others creates both the possibility of action and its risks No human being is ever totally isolated and no gesture or act is ever exclusively the work of one person How can there be a subject who Is intrinsically a betrayer or a subject who is intrinsically the betrayed Okay There's a there's a challenge Because we may very well come to define ourselves as someone who is betrayed And the old Starbucks here completely shut down It's no drive through window for this Starbucks Who can predict betrayal and we can't? In Shakespeare's play of the same name Coriolanus refuses to observe the rules and the rights of the roman republic By seeking the favor of the roman people Through its tribunes and his refusal is repaid by insults This is enough to make the great general feel that he has been betrayed So that induces him to betray Rome Abandoned Rome which he no longer feels himself appreciated Rome for which he is so Often and so generously fought it's no longer his homeland How could Coriolanus have predicted in the happy days of his glory when he defended Rome from its enemies that one day he would betray Rome How could he have imagined That it would be precisely other romans who would bring him around to that betrayal Or that he would be the one to pass over to the side of the enemy So yeah, we may feel a great deal of loyalty to a group to an entity to a job to a person And just a few sentences or one single act And we may well feel compelled to ditch our loyalty and in fact will compel it to betray so often Those who are the keenest fans are the most dangerous for say the public personality that uh, I I've Known it that I've had, you know, you know over the top fans whenever I hear from like an over the top fan I immediately become worried Because I have found that people are like over the top in their fandom are the most likely to turn and switch And to be to become the bitterest of enemies and opponents So you'll often do it do a kindness for someone And then suddenly They become irate because you didn't do a second kindness. So I I allowed a friend. I gave a friend a credit card Like I was responsible for it. He didn't have good credit So I wanted to help him out. He'd helped me out in various ways. I'd state I'd uh hadn't stated his place, but I'd used to shower at times and He'd been a good friend to me. So I thought yeah I'll give him a credit card in his name that I'm responsible for and he'll just pay me every month. Well, he didn't pay me and ended up with He had me about six seven eight hundred dollars And at that point because he was late in paying me. I just cut him off Then once I cut him off He essentially seems to be my friend and he never repaid me the money so This wouldn't have happened if I hadn't extended myself to do that kindness of giving him a credit card And then Because he was just that's who he was is to be habitually late in paying his bills. That's why he didn't have access to credit then He'd be habitually late repaying me to pay my to pay the credit card bills. He'd run up And then when I finally cut him off Then he experienced that as a tremendous act to betrayal and That pretty much was the end of our friendship. I kind of peed it on after that But we were never as close and now I haven't spoken to him in I don't think I've had any communication with him in maybe eight ten years And we were like the best of friends during my first few years in Los Angeles So this happened in late 97 early 1998 And we stayed acquaintances for another decade or when I was staying with that college professor at UCLA And he asked me if he could give me a blowjob Our friendship was never the same after that thinking about a girlfriend I had His uncle went while intoxicated asked her for a blowjob and She realized that her friendship with her relationship with her uncle Was never the same after that. So one word one sentence one act has a potential to forever Forever change our relationship To not just one person but then to a whole string of people Talk to you more soon