 Welcome back. It's time now to take a look at what made it to the front pages of some of our national dailies will begin this morning with the punch. But first of all, let's introduce our guest. Our guest this morning is Mr. Tunde Kolaoli. Good morning and welcome to the show, Tunde. Good morning, Mr. Tunde. Okay, so we're beginning with the punch newspaper and the screaming headlines there. On the punch is Labor Threatens in Definite Strike, Gives One Week Ultimatum to Government. And the writers are giving a bag of rice to 12 people, 100 million Naira to each lawmaker is insulting according to Labor. Then government has absconded from negotiation table, fails to meet workers' demands, says NLC. Then other headlines there before we begin to pick them one after the other are Nigerians to clear goods from Kotonu ports, that's according to customs, and the story is on page 30. Despite serial challenges, Nigerians believe in democracy or post-authoritarianism. That's on page three. Tinnable orders probe as 900 and one die in 61 boat accidents. One dies as truck crashes on Lagos Bridge. I hear Sotetola Bridge and then, okay, those are the headlines we will take from the punch. Let's begin with the post-subsidy talks, Labor Threatens in Definite Strike and Gives One Week Ultimatum. Let's begin with that. Your thoughts? Honestly speaking, we have between the devil and the deep blue sea. When you look at the pilot state of the Nigerian economy, the crisis with regards to Naira, the high-paying pollution, which incidentally is also happening all over the world, and then the military economy, the petroleum that we serve, which is a gas company, you want to ask yourself, where will the government find the resources to pilot the affairs of the state if they don't remove their super-subsidies, especially with regards to the trillions of Naira debt that is hanging over the head of the nation like a squad of Damoko. On the other hand, with regards to the deep, hello? Yeah, I can hear you. With regards to the workings of the people, out of an upright worker who has no time to sit in this country, survive with the high-paying pollution that we have inside him? Well, that's unfortunate. We cannot continue for now with Mr. Tunde Kolawole. As soon as we can rejoin him, when that problem is solved, then we are going to rejoin him. In the meantime, let's just take a look at the headlines on these national dailies. When he returns, we are going to continue talking about them. Just as a reminder, still on the punch, Nigeria took clear goods from Kotonu ports. Despite serial challenges, Nigerians believe in democracy or post-authoritarianism, and Tinobu orders probe as 900 and one died in 61 boat accidents. Remember, one of our trending topics was the fact that 30 people have died. From the number 26, it has now risen to 30 people that have died in Niger state because a boat capsized. And we've been hearing stories like this. So from the records now, 61 boat mishaps have caused Nigerians the lives of 900 and one people. And those are the ones that are documented. There are some that may not have been on a boat that is carrying up to 100 people or 50 people that would make the news. Maybe three here, four there, two there and so on. So if 900 and one have died in 61 boat accidents, then it should be something that the government should really look into by providing what they need to provide. Maybe life jackets or monitoring the people who are operating this very well. Okay, Mr. Tunde Kolaoli, I understand you have rejoined us. Welcome back. Your audio is not very good, Mr. Kolaoli. I don't know why. Maybe you'll cut and call back. Hello. While we wait for him to return, let's take a look at other headlines from other dailies. Let's go to the Guardian. When he comes back, he will continue with the train of thoughts that he had. On the Guardian newspaper, we hear that Obazi panel haunts conspirators in alleged 7 trillion Naira frauds linked to MFLE. Bandits suck 15 communities in Tarabah, monarch laments. We also have a story that two years after a cargo movement begins on a Papa Ibadon, $1.5 billion rail line. Petrol diesel cost may soar as oil prices rise amid tighter supply. From Malami to Fagwemi in search of holistic reform for the judiciary. That's a news analysis on page 4 of the Guardian newspaper. And there's also a story suggesting that multidimensional approach is necessary to curb unemployment. That's the Guardian newspaper, Amrita. But I'm leaving the Guardian now to the Nation newspaper. The Nation newspaper reads, or the boldest headline there, is Crisis Rocks on Dohexco over Akkadolu deputy feud. It's a story that the governor, Akkadolu, returned a few days ago from his medical leave. Federal government targets inflation cut with 50% FARC savings. Cargos for evacuation to decongest lego spots. Flood storm kills over 5,000 in Libya town. Trade between Nigeria and EU grows to 45 billion euros. And we also have, okay, the writers on the story of Ondo State is Governor Fahya's deputy governor's aides. Ayeda Tiwa says, I remain loyal and commissioners, SAs, GTRI. So we wonder what the sheriff has come back to do. The sheriff that left for medical tourism has returned. And we are hearing problems coming from Ondo State. We do hope they will solve those problems. And we do hope it's not going to be like they do, do problems that we've heard from deputy and the governor. We hear that he was even relocated. The deputy was relocated to a place that they are just trying to renovate now, removed from the government house. And so many other stories coming from there. Why would these people be fighting? And when two elephants fight, what do they say? It's the people that suffer. So we go to, all right, we'll return to Mr. Okay, today is good to have you back. Okay, go ahead with a ton of thoughts. Your audio was bad at that time. So I'm glad that you're back now. Go ahead with what you were talking about. Regarding an NLC and federal government. Okay, something seems to be happening to Toonday this morning. Nature News is our next stop and G20 summit. UK pledges record $2 billion to Africa's green climate fund. Green climate fund pledges to spend 11.6 billion pounds on international climate finance. Okay. UAE commits $4.5 billion investment in African clean energy. Governor Zulum launches 70 buses for metro transport in Burnu. We also have NIMED forecast three days of thunderstorm cloudiness in Abuja. I do hope that everybody will be listening. All the communities in Nigeria will be listening. I say this because of what the unfortunate event that happened in Ben West did a few months ago where two people were killed by the thunderstorm and the community came and killed or beat one man to death because they felt that he was responsible for this. So now NIMED is telling you that there might be thunderstorms. Do not go and kill somebody because of this. Okay, Mr. Kola Wale, I'm glad that you're back. Yes, NLC, Threatening Strike. Again, that was what you were talking about before we went off. Can you hear me? Hello. Can you hear me now? Okay, Mr. Kola Wale still can't hear me. I hope that will be rectified in time. So NIMED forecast three days of thunderstorm cloudiness in Abuja. So it may not even just be Abuja. For wherever we find this, we should know that it's a natural phenomenon. If someone is out and by stroke of misfortune, they are caught up in the storm and thunder strikes and somebody dies. Please know that it's a natural phenomenon. Like I was saying, there was this story from Ben West State where someone was beaten to death because they suspected him of being the one who sent thunder to kill a man and his wife, I think. How can people at this time, this day and age still be thinking like this? So now NIMED has forecast three days of thunderstorm and cloudiness in Abuja. Whether it is in Abuja or anywhere else in Nigeria, please know that this thing cannot occur. And if it does occur, if there's anything you can do to keep yourself safe, you do it to keep yourself safe, do not blame village people for everything in Nigeria. Okay, Mr Kolaoli. Yes, ma'am. Can you hear me now? I can hear you now. Okay, let's go back to the story on the punch where we were talking about NLC and your three of us. Go ahead, please. Okay. Now, as I was saying, when we look at the grievances of the NLC, when we look at those grievances are genuine and possible. And I'm not just a gulia to label a nuke, but to all Nigerian citizens. Life has become so difficult, because Naira has lost almost all its value. Inflation is real. And then the food security that NIMED should be able to push us against this adversity, the farmers are possible in this nuke to go to the farm because of kids' abuse and panditry. So, one would say, if the government does not remove the subsidy, they might not have the resources to limit the affairs of the Nigerian citizens. But I think what the government... It's not to put the cap before the walls. Rather, they should have put on ground a regime of palliative and a regime of public security in terms of ensuring that farmers are able to go to the farm. Banditry has been happening all the time. After all, Ukraine is at war now and is still able to export their grave and not have food and materials. They are also manufacturing most of the arms and ammunition or some of the arms and ammunition that they require. So, if a country like Korea is willing to pay Nigeria should also be able to do it. Then, again, they should have a repair of the refineries. These licensees to more men who are interested in refining petroleum products. But if we are able to produce petro here in Nigeria, the issue of importing at high cost that the ordinary man cannot really be able to buy will not be able to... I mean, will not be there. Shortly, when we are expected, the federal government will be considering some of the very core assembly plans like a Namco in Agambra, wind manufacturing policies and all that. And then we will also have spare in the pouches and then I think in Vietnam in Nepal too. And then in Portugal, in Carduno and also in Nigeria. If South Africa is able to produce very good and export to other countries, I don't see reason why we are not able to do it. So, these are a couple of things that the federal government, the state government, the local government would have been able to do before going ahead to possibly withdraw the subsidy of petroleum products. I do think this government is going to do that when even the car manufacturing plant that we have in Nigeria is not being encouraged, it's not being patronized. Other countries can come and buy cars here, but Nigerians know they want to go out and buy cars from another place. Nobody wants to take... So, there's that fear. But right now, you have just mentioned things that they could have done that we're supposed to do before the removal of fuel subsidy. But what about the things that they are even doing right now? For instance, one of the things that Labour is saying is that giving a bag of rice to 12 people and 100 million Naira to each lawmaker is insulting. Meaning that the lawmakers are earning so much as palliative, earning so much as allowances, as salaries or anything, and then you're telling families to go get 8,000 or 10,000 Naira for a full month, for six months, and after that, there's nothing that will come again. So, they're seeing this as an insult. And this is not an illicit thing. It's about Nigeria, like you said earlier on. So, they are doing the things that are annoying to the people of Nigeria even when they couldn't do the things that they were supposed to do to make Nigeria better or make life easier for everybody. Now, my concern is, if they have removed subsidy, I'm just asking you how you feel about it, they have removed subsidy. Every state is thinking about how to buy buses that will be plying the roads, how to distribute rice and other food items and all that to the people who will be fueling the buses if that is not subsidy, who they are going to spend money to buy the buses. That is not subsidy. They are going to buy the rice that they are going to give the people. That's not subsidy. If all this money were to be gathered and spent on these fuel, so that the subsidy that they have removed according to them, will it not serve the same purpose now that they have good data of how much fuel we consume in the country? I'm just wondering, like a layman. Oh, dear. Okay. We'll wait for Tunde to rejoin us, but we were at Nature News when we had information that Tunde has returned. Like I was saying, Zulum launches 70 buses for metro transport in Borno. I do hope that there are people or governors who are launching these buses within the state. They are also thinking, or maybe the federal government is thinking about buses that will be playing in intercity, not just the intercity that we are having. For instance, if in Lagos state we have buses that the state government has graciously said, okay, it's only 50% that we are going to be paying for the fares. What about if you want to go to Ibadan, for instance, who takes care of you? There are people who never, ever leave their houses to go to a particular place to work. Maybe they are still at home, but they are finding it difficult to feed because of the things that are happening because of the removal of the fuel subsidies. So how are these people going to be captured as well? There are people who maybe because of accommodation problems in Lagos, they live in Ogun state and they are coming to work in Lagos state. How are you also going to make sure that these people enjoy the palliatives that you are giving to the people? Because if they are coming from Ogun to work in Lagos, they are working for Lagos and in Lagos. So how will these people also be captured? Okay, Tunde, are you back? Yes, I'm back. So did you hear me when I was trying to make a comment? Yes, I did. We were talking about the disparity between what the legislature and the people in the top level of government are located to the best and what they are keeping up for the ordinary Nigerians. Yes, I agree with you that there is a wide gap between what they are ordering and what they are supposed to say and what these people in government remember also that a legislature came out to say last week or two weeks ago that they have no cost to cut because already the money they are earning is not so much. So when people are crying that they should cut the cost of governance by the kind of money that they earn in the National Assembly, he said there is nothing to cut because it's not even enough. Go ahead. You will remember that some time ago some non-competition did a comparative analysis of what the legislature of the Nigeria end vis-à-vis what they end in the Nigeria end Canada, Germany, Michigan and Warwick and the Nigerian legislature were described as one of the highest ending one of the highest in the world and what they are supposed to do vis-à-vis the money that they earn there is no justification or rationale for it. So the legislature, when they say the kind of thing that they in fact have said they are merely talking they are merely spiting the Nigerian people which is very, very unbecoming but it should not be specified that they are saying that I have always been and I'm not going to deny that our legislature most people go from Syriac to Nigeria they are near Colombia they don't see themselves as part of the world the thing that they are a special breed of women that should be specifically catered for by the taxpayer and that is not fair we can and people have been educated some of these legislators they held this assembly the councilors at the local government and the people at the federal level some of these people should be well just sitting at our house when they go to the parliament furthermore we have been educated that we should have been the camera legislators who last vote the House of Red and then maybe one more person from the state constitute the national assembly so as to bring down the cost of government but they are not ready to do this where when people and these are some of the reasons one cannot vote when they insist on going on fight so as to put pressure so as to put pressure on the national assembly so as to put pressure on the government so that they begin to see this and think like the other you will not believe this if not that they will be outcast the energy sector will even have insist that they should be paid in dollars and pan-standing because they transact the business in Korea well it's terrible ok we will move to the Guardian some of the stories that are on point are also on the Guardian and I would like to take this one 2 years after cargo movement begins on a Papa Ibadon 1.5 billion dollar rail line 2 years after now the cargo movement begins on a Papa Ibadon 1.5 billion dollar rail line what are your thoughts we cannot vote after they have been able to report that rail line that rail line but let's remind ourselves that this is not a new innovation that rail track has always been there but somehow for these investments we will refuse to use that rail line rather people went in there and then the trains from the port to the inter-land and stopped functioning now that they have resorted it is likely to put the amenity it will not amenity we will do the cargo on road only which has been one of those things that damage our roads that are constructed with billions of but honestly why do I appreciate what the local state is going to say why do I appreciate what the federal government is saying with regards to rail development I must say I am not too happy about what they are saying a country like India a country like South Africa and some of these new rail the United Arab Emirates very very tiny country they are investing in bullet train so if others are needed are investing bullet train that can travel to one kilometer per hour why will Nigeria be invested in locomotive rail in the 24th century so we are not moving forward we are rather stagnating and then we begin to clap we begin to elodi all these open and archaic technology that have been thrown in our testing after all what France is doing better today the government is putting the digital investment and then they are able to provide the time and they have done the cost of the energy that way we will be able to pay back the cost of financing in the span of a year so why don't we look at development in that direction construct a bullet train and monetize the cost of energy and make the cost of the construction and then give yourself some year within which to pay back if you have gone abroad to borrow money to fuel a bullet train from a legal to a place like Patato or to Alba and then to Ocasuna we would benefit more from it with what we are doing now we don't have the time to talk because sooner than later those locomotive trains nobody will put them in the train and so we will have cost to replace the locomotive trains with modern rail lines in fact when you go from Thomas coming from China they have developed a train now that can go faster than the airplane see sooner than later in the world now it is that even later per hour with the train rail so this is the direction we are looking and not investing in Ocasuna technology now the headline O'Bazé panel conspirators in alleged 7 trillion Naira fraud linked to a medfile remember the special investigator hired by the federal government to look into CBN and all connected entities now they are clamping down on people who they term conspirators in the 7 trillion Naira fraud linked to the central bank of Nigeria governor what is the problem of Mr. Nair family I would see one to say that I very many disagree with the way the man is being treated we who are loyal we are but we hate we don't like to treat people for evidence after a suspect has been arrested the federal government should have drawn the investigation before going ahead to arrest Mr. Naira and then beginning to do propaganda as regards what his management he has engaged with because you will remember when he was arrested the first took him to court for possessing a drain gun under our law which means without charges that the man went to court on the oldie chart and our constitution found at the oldie chart that you first arrested man and after you have arrested him you will be looking for evidence infactions with which to nail him that will not gel and this media attire to be treated with a lot of levity Mepheli has been conducted the affairs of the CBN in an holistic manner or the world of all who are expected especially the my lab denomination but that does not mean we should discount him fair handling that does not mean we should defend the presumption of inocence that does not mean we will now begin to pitch for evidence with which to nail him so that's my tip on that petrol diesel cost may soar as oil prices rise amid tighter supply that's another headline that is the way and manner the capitalist economy works that is all good and bad and left to the mercy of the market forcing immediately the cost of rising the tariff market the pump prices are bound to rise around the world and especially in countries where there is no subsidy infact we begin to view this as long as we retain this lack of subsidy regime where when you look around the world there is no country that does not put in place one regime of subsidy or the other in places like in America cost of public transportation cost of food are subsidized they even have food banks in some of those places that the indigent people can work into and get at least one square meal a day so Nigerians for a bumpy ride the only solution to escalating our stress from the invocation of transportation for petroleum products is for us to develop new refineries it is also for us to repair the existing refineries that have been comatose all this while we move to on those states remember that Governor Kero Dulu has been out or had been out for like three months on health tourism somewhere else in this world yes it is health tourism he is back now and every time what we are hearing is that there is a feud between him and the deputy who held the fort for the three months that he was away now the deputies aides have been fired we are looking at a situation where maybe on those states and those states will just be the same what is happening in those states is unfortunate and now it is beginning on those states so I don't know what you see about this Governor and the deputies feud on those states it is a lot very very unfortunate let me start with the health tourism that we talked about Governor Kero Dulu has not used this in public or financed his treatment abroad I think we should not hold any grudge against him a man who has ailment always take to have the right to treat himself wherever he could get a good treatment so long as he doesn't use the fact that he has money to treat himself with regards to the feud between himself and his deputy we don't have the kind of thing that we have been seeing since 1999 when we return to Dulu the Constitution has not given very clear provisions as the Governor the work of the deputies to really be really used as a kind of spare time by the Governor by the President by the local government so we probably would have to rethink at the Constituent that we make clear provisions with regards to the work that the deputies to actually engage themselves furthermore at times it is the Governor that can pick whoever they want to use as a deputy Governor so if somebody and people you are rather at the wings of such a party you are their master and I think that is what we continue to see with regards to the target most of the deputy governments are facing but more importantly let me say we need for the Governor a lot of the Governor and the part of the Governor because you will find out when the Governor and the President go back to what we remember the one President Buhari went up for treatment a lot of insiders in Afso Rock also tried to create a link between Buhari and Osin Bagdor the fact that Mekile Buhari came back from abroad is to Osin Bagdor of most of the most of the work that he has given to him most of the ministers have talked about to be handled but again let me say this to Governor Kredo Lu I looked at his picture immediately he came back I do not think that Governor Kredo Lu as a fuller recover why he is rushing back to take Mekile Buhari in turn to help him beats my imagination when it comes to thinking what a Kredo Lu will be where if he wants one a Kredo Lu can afford it so why does he have to take his head mainly because he wants to return to the seat of the Governor those are the kind of things that ended that ended a lot of Yara Dua's life if Yara Dua has not sought to be better end of Nigeria with the kidney ailment that he has he probably would have been alive today but since he has not been the president of the country and the records of that office at the end of the day consumed him we pray for Governor Kredo Lu that what happened to Yara Dua does not really happen to him but if I were him life is more important than office the office will be there but once we lose our lives we hardly can get it back a Kredo Lu should take care of himself and he should not allow all the rumours, all the mobs all the lies all the hate threats that people have been seen with Tricaso's deputy but because of his sense of judgment for birthday he found the man worthy in the first instance that's why he made him his deputy so he should demonstrate more maturity he is a man in the seventies he is a lawyer a senior broker for that matter they hardly experienced property everything that he required to live a comfortable life but at the end of his life he has it so actually Dua Lu should take it easy which is deputy if he is insistent on returning back to the government okay well there is this story about still on the nation newspaper federal government targets inflation cut with 50% tax savings yeah so 50% federal government targets inflation cut with 50% tax savings all this breaking wood IMF recommendation cannot really work in our economy the kind of proposal they are making assumes that people have soft words to say the kind of reports they are giving me assumes that we are producing anything in this country the kind of proposal that they are making assumes that the state of our infrastructure is a perfect system is a not where you have the difficulties in all the areas that are mentioned all these IMF recommendations or are proto-studying or attacking or curtailing inflation will not work say for example when they came in they said they were imagine they fall in exchange they fall the black market the official market rate of selling at currency we have experienced it now for more than 100 days as it improved the fortune of the Naira the answer is no it should not improve the fortune of the Naira because we are not producing because people don't have enough to stay because there is no food security the farmer cannot go to the market the farmer cannot go to the farm and then kill the store nobody is manufacturing anything from toothpick to constricted road points and Land Cruiser that the vegetables are arriving they are all sourced from abroad rather I would advise the federal government they should concentrate on the productive base of the economy I made this recommendation the last time I spoke with them and I want to which is to say that let the federal government the federal regime concentrate on solving the challenges in the power sector let them maintain existing infrastructure and then let them do massive investment in agriculture and then let them be able to maintain the existing infrastructure that we have in the country the country need to be able to do this inflation will gradually come back and the economy will begin to bounce back ok well they thought that that was going to be very very good for them to cut something from 50% cut of farm allocation now they are cutting that, they are also on the other hand giving palliatives to the state governments and so I don't really know what is going on the palliative to the state government is money down the drain why do I say it is money down the drain remember that President Buhari gave a lot of money to the states to cushion the challenges they are presently present also remember that Dr. Goulogre also made a lot of money available to the states and the local government but what happened to that money most of the states mainly use them to buy vehicles cars for themselves they use it to improve their wardrobe increase their capacity allowances and then the money went down I have a feeling that the President's money being given to the state might end up the same manner in which all the previous bailouts have always ended we should do things properly using money to fight inflation or using money to fight the challenges that we have all over the country today will not solve the problem all we need to do is to go back to production in the area of agriculture in the area of manufacturing in the area of improving the technical of our people say for example the other world the developed world their commitment now to artificial intelligence artificial intelligence is taking over the industries the hospitals the roads that is the direction we should be looking at if we are left behind if we take another 100 years to cut off the civil life world that's what in Nigeria we will say we should not be left behind Mr Attu thank you so much for being a part of our show this morning as always it's a pleasure having you on the show thanks for having me you have a great day you too the practitioners talking to us from Lagos here we will take a short break when we return we will go to our first hot topic stay with us