 Sure, like I just want to hijack a minute Thomas. I was gonna do the thank yous But I'll do the very quick thank you to Thomas and DevFest Asia for existing and helping us because we probably wouldn't be here without him This is the the last DevFest Asia event. We had 20 of those Like small meetups big meetups like just coffee this morning the kopi. Yes with big conferences with almost 300 people on Thursday and Friday there was madness I had an awesome team helping me with all of that that I could have done it without it So next year is gonna look a bit different. We learned a lot of things I guess But the conference is definitely will be back for sure and that has been as a website will be still there for sure as well So I'm looking forward to that part now for those of you who went to a DevFest event other than this one before just to see All right reasonable reasonable Who came to one of the two big conferences CSS comes to Scon? Who didn't get a photon? Really? Okay, I should have brought more than Because I heard like some people didn't get one but really wanted one Yeah, like I brought I have still a few more spares, but I thought like well, I just went to So yeah, well they're two already, I don't know just throw them here and see Yeah, he doesn't have one probably helps you like I'll go with the ones that checked in first Okay, I can't take it off. You're helped anyway Well one at one and checked already in I checked in on Wednesday Okay, well check it is still there Well, let me know afterwards. I still have one here. Otherwise like male knee I still have a few at home if you wanted one and then thanks for coming to that was really really good. Good fun Thank You Thomas Now this is our first talk CSS the plan is to have one approximately once per month At this point we open the floor to any announcements. Is anyone hiring or got anything interesting to say? Job anyone want to hire someone anyone if you do in future, then this is your chance basically So think about that for next time Are there specific things you want to know about for next time actually because I was thinking of doing a talk next time And I would love to know what about I'll get to that so I was going to get to that I've already got two speakers lined up for our next one We will be back in January. We're gonna take a break for next month So you won't hear anything from us for a little while Next year we've got some pretty awesome speakers lined up already, which is I mean Talk CSS has been around for about three weeks now four weeks if that And we've already got stuff planned into April next year, which is insane Yeah, but there's demand for this to exist. So it exists. Basically. That's the only reason we're here I'm meant to thank the speakers, but I'm one and you're one West we won't speak next time We're cheap Thank you Michael for recording us Engines SG His wife for giving us popcorn yes We have started off on basically nothing we still have basically nothing if you we don't have any sponsors We don't have venues where we've got some speakers But if you're interested in speaking doesn't matter if you've spoken in front of anyone, but you'll mirror before then Contact one of us can't be any worse than me Just speak The the big myth about people who stand up and talk about in front of other people is that they know something more than anyone else But it is a myth I've got no idea what I'm doing No, no I even managed to fool Thomas into getting me to speak at jazz comp last year Jscon with all forms. Yeah, that's the thing. So here I am doing CSS Yeah, so if you want to speak if you're interested and it doesn't need to be anything revolutionary Something I'm interested in doing here is I'm from Perth in Australia and the development community is about three people So coming here to Singapore. It's awesome. Just to see people that really keen to do stuff And I've noticed there are lots of beginners out there as well Having done this for about 19 years now. I take a lot of things for granted. I've been doing this longer than CSS has been around But other people are just starting out. So what I'd like to do at least once every meetup is just to cover a basic I can find the mental and That's something that you know But that's just that's a topic that if you know just grab something like cascades That not everyone necessarily understands very well and that's enough to turn into a bit of talk You know learn about it yourself. Even if you don't know It's a great opportunity to find things out We're also after some helpers if you'd like to volunteer. Thank you timekeeper Leaving the country after this, that's how it's a bad roll. Don't do time Sponsors would be awesome if your company has some space and you'd like to host about this number of people We'd love to hear from you Otherwise, you know, we can give you a couple of minutes to put your logo on this screen if you get us some popcorn next time Anything along those lines, please get in touch as well Let us know what you'd like to hear as Thomas said he'd like to tell us stuff. What do you want Thomas to say? You can be you know, slot the coin in say the funny thing. I can't do a lot of your ex stuff That's like my typical talk about optimistic design and stuff Which is not necessarily directly CSS but Front-end we can cover stuff that's because it's you have to implement it on the front-end sooner or later Rose JS gets a lot more all over the place these days. So I don't think it's a bad thing if we bend the rules a bit What else do I need to mention we build SG if you want to find out what's going on around the place because they are awesome Anything You Loads are good when you want to float an image in line of text Like from the basic idea of what floats would come up and came up with because I mean to CSS and HTML is about print Yeah floats are great for that But that's because you are floating something I think the point is trying When people started using CSS floats for lay-up It was actually a hack because there was no good way to do lay-ups on the web And then so I think flexbox was born out of that that we wanted to come up with a proper way of Doing lay-up and as far as I know right now I know there are because the implementation was spotty across different browsers That's what auto-prefix is actually very very helpful because you don't you don't I can't remember all the different If you want to support all the way back all the different pre-fixing so for now it's IE 9 and beyond so Until most I think as I work in an agency most of our contracts go modern browser and tool behind So it kind of still stuck because we have to support nine But once we get past that then we are in the mountains flexbox pretty well though Nine yeah, that's why it's all three. I've used all the proofs Yeah, yeah It's nine's kind of disappearing by the time we have our next talk CSS you won't have to officially We are pretty much there and don't use grids whatever wants to sell you grids Oh, yeah, it's when you want to use the native CSS grids and nobody ever has that use case So by default use flexbox don't use grids like the time where we use center Layouts white space left and right I don't know like people came up with that stuff because they wanted to fit in a certain resolution screen And then the screens got bigger and there was white space and for some reason it's still the default style on how Every other website works is this centered column in the middle of the side. No one knows how to go Why they don't know what to do. Yeah, and then flexbox you can use the entire screen Like and put your content. It's really easy to make it responsive because it's quite default kind of Like just use flexbox whenever Specifically on mobile like Specifically there Quick demo in praise of flexbox because if I full screen this And this is working progress so it's gonna break at some point or other If the top it breaks as you saw before because the same template So we can go down pretty small and This is this is the all-entirely flexbox all of this and I'm new to flexbox as of about three weeks ago I mean, I've been doing this forever, but you know, I work for an insurance company Our clients are so conservative. They're the last ones to let go of IE 7 So we have to hang on to stuff until they're officially not around anymore. So this is fine You start getting a bit wider again flexbox. Look at that goes from You know straight out listing to Something we've got a grid it's getting a bit more humid as we're getting bigger Yeah, and the only thing that my way of getting around that is to Actually put the padding inside things I can grab a container Yeah So I've actually got a container inside the flexed thing and the padding and the margins are applied to that So you don't get any overflow problems It took me a bit to work that out. It was a bit annoying because I thought it would just be magic It's not like that. Yeah It does work in 90 my tests Maybe I'll test it badly No, I don't have any poly fields here. Anyway, all right, how's that accident to do it? I was going to do a briefing at the end to ask people stuff What's your editor of choice sublime text 3 and why because it's fast Mine's the same and because it's quick and it's got plug-ins and stuff so You're the one man using the window All right, thank you everyone for turning up this one Command lines Again, thank you everybody for showing up didn't expect so many of you to turn up So I'm really really appreciative that you're you know showed up to listen So we want talking to mosquitoes Thank you everybody Oh, yes, you can ask us when we don't know so we can just sit there and say we don't know You can discuss it Google is your friend Do not go to w3schools.com. Oh, man, please use MDN never go to w3schools.com Anything up about where's technology without MDN There's still a developer network is a great start don't w3schools bad No one's being able to work out while it SEO is so good They must know I Thank you everyone we can mill around and eat popcorn