 Okay, so I'm Bruce Wilson and my organization is Service Render Incorporated. I am the executive director of that organization. We've been doing this work in Primal and Chitty County since 1999. Arts So Wonderful is one of our programs because we have many programs like United College Club, Gift Fit for Mod, Vermont Logo Art and Music, Straight Talk for Mod. We have a lot of programs that we facilitate and it's basically our programs are geared to help people with their goals, dreams and aspirations while providing safe places that they can actually come to and have a good time for free. And so do we offer internships and community service opportunities which we all should do have some community service opportunities. And so I would say that it's kind of like a systemic organization. We're going to help you with your needs in the world or things in your goals. And we use our community partners as well as people who do the things that you might want to do to help us and help that individual meet their goals in life. And you're working with young people throughout Vermont or Chitty County? Well primarily our organization is Chitty County organization. But we do work with Rutherland County individuals and do we do work in Franklin County you know and yeah in Addison County as well because we work for Middlebury College. So what we do is everything I just said we did you know we have a program called United College Club and primarily we work with students who go to those college like UVM, St. Mike's, John's, St. Lane, Norris, Calfston and Middlebury. Primarily the college that we work with with students. And we help them like I said with jobs, job selling, mentoring, opportunities. We help them with most importantly internships. I have six interns and thank God for those interns. I'm telling you and the good thing about it is they do we help them do the things they want to do in life based on what their major in it is you know we might ask them to help us paint a mural, help us you know facilitate a program in our you want our centers or something you know. But also but if they're like a PR personnel they want to be a doctor, a lawyer, or an Indian chief then we connect them to those people that they are. And quite frankly we have a success rate of helping these individuals. They get jobs, they get get the experience like for instance like our art so wonderful program started around 2000 really 2001 and so how was named it was named from college interns at UVM. It was our college interns. They wanted to do art programs. They actually wanted to teach elementary they want to be our teachers and teach elementaries, middle school kids, arts all different things you know. And so you know they helped us you know with all the different things for youth centers and we had the malls and all kind of with the youth. But we helped them with their goals and art so wonderful was started with them. And what it was was we had an office down on in the old North End of North Street where we work primarily with individuals, the community, the families and businesses there you know North Street being at maybe still be the highest risk and economically challenged probably one in the in the neighborhoods in the state. And so what these girls did was they go around they went around North Old North End picked up all these little kids taught their parents you know and tell them what was going to do and sign these kids up. And these kids came to our every like two or three times a week to our place in our office space for a nice little gathering room too we can do these things work out and they would teach these kids like charcoal drawing or they went out to landscape painting. They you know all you know regular painting in our center. Oh my god so what happened was when we did what those girls did and then what we did was help these help the community also providing some activity keeping kids in low risk where it can be the place where there's no drugs and not called tobacco and learn about art. And um and what we did for the college in terms was now as they wanted to be our art teacher they got to learn what it would it would it be um what it would be to work with elementary and middle school kids and not only that they was able to design curriculum you know and Ben and Jerry's response we're bringing ice cream you know so you know I think at first the kids come for the ice cream you know but that was like come on kids come here some bit of Jerry's now I learned some arts you know and um and so art so wonderful evolved um well well the name evolved but career since 1999 we were doing a graffiti removal program it was through um it was through our program at the time straight talk for my you know which um we changed the name in 2017 service rendering because my board said all we do is render service you know so we just say the name straight talk with my meaning being straight with yourself you know and community and everything you do that's what straight talk about man and um and so so we had a graffiti abatement program and we created through the community Justin and we're talking about founding member of the community just around the state and we had a graffiti abatement program and then so um what happens what individuals who got in trouble by doing graffiti would um like the course course and rapid it was sort of just spent all these people who sent them to me straight talk for my you know go see Bruce and clean up that dig on you know mirror the tags you made so i because i believe in restoring justice i said let's go go clean up and everybody should help um let's now you can do a beautiful mural that you can show your mama she can help you police gonna hand you the paintbrush whatever you know and um so that's how our uh graffiti removal program started normally we don't put murals over over blank walls all our murals go over graffiti walls because we still have a graffiti abatement program and in 2001 i learned through my studies about um doing murals and art whatever that um if you put a mural over graffiti um graffiti vandals or you know they they honor it they don't go bomb the wall this they call it bomb the wall they don't bomb the wall because they just like coat of ethnics you know saying and so you know very seldom do they do that you know that anyone's that they bomb on our wall we go fix it right quick but the good thing about it too is about we have a like a secret about why people don't bomb our walls and this is the secret it's not really a secret is that i want to any anybody to know this and so they can do it too because our stuff is no secret we want everybody to do if they see something good that we do to do it and if we can help you do it let's do it but anyways so because those individuals the bomb the wall guys will come refer to me through restorative justice panels course and rapid rapid intervention you know community justice center um reparative um boards um and we give an opportunity to put real nice murals up there guess what every time those bombers see those and their name on the wall they don't bomb the wall because that's like they you know comfort that's they boy that's they peeps you know saying they even though these people have got better because now they do and work on cameras and murals and arts you know make a lot of money doing this work but they frenzy they name and and they honor they don't bomb the wall and we tell our guys if you know any bombers tell them quit bombing the walls around brones and brown state you know and just come see me because i have a wall for them i mean so that's our but let me tell you a quick story about the individuals just we talked about these individuals who came through the course course rapid and all these to refer to me and we gave them opportunity to clean up there what they messed up and then part of their community if you got 50 hours and he's like 24 hour hours the same theory they clean the wall i guess what the other 25 hours gonna go on you for you doing the wall you know and we buy all the paint but but the thing is that now we have some stories where individuals came to our courts and just want to know about our programs because um we have some good outcome measurements from them is that this individuals one of them i can think of many of these same type artists tear to me one a bruise i want to stop putting art on canvas i say wow that's awesome let's put out on canvas he stopped putting art on canvas and then so so we showed his art at first that daily daily planet then we showed him at the echo center then we showed him at the um flint space this guy was popular you know saying he's got his art and people's buying and we and we had our art show every year as you know cctv know at the um marriott we do this at a going on ninth year free to artists and he did this stuff he was selling works out of there for two to three thousand dollars this kid and so then he so and then he said bruise i'm going to college because i'll kill you know our programs like you know how i learned how can we get you in college with our school or whatever you want to do and um he said i'm going to college and i already applied now this needs you give me a reference so i said where you want to go he said pratt institute so he went to pratt institute he graduated after that institute then he was sending me email selling me some photos i mean his pictures in uh north carolina in a in a museum like a narrow museum my man and so like so this is this is why i get excited about doing this work and this is why i see that um i see just what we do for people i have many many studying and cct know tv know me that i have many many stories about i can talk about individual meeting that goes and and it ain't about me it's about the people who i serve because i serve them they don't serve me and i help them for real with their gold strings and aspirations by the people i know i can't do it you know i have like 200 master's degrees or phd's on knowing people that can help these people that's what i'm the best at you know what i'm saying is that like they want to know about media productions i'm coming and you know it i've done it come to cct tv all the time i don't try to act like i know anything about i i but i do know you know making all wrong and people like you know who help who helps me i do know those people and sure enough i don't know how many years i've done that and cctv know that i do that and so so you want to talk about this black life matters music because um the black life okay so black life matters museum i mean um mural it was like so we work with on the city like like i said through the through our graffiti removal programs and we also put on we also we also put um art on the wall um murals of you know walls and so for so co-enforcement and they do they clean up um walls like they did they clean up this wall here and um so i was asking to talk to bill ward about um you know we're showing each other stuff we did about do we have a wall that we can you know that he put the graffiti or i mean that he cleaned up um that we can have because i know for fact when you just paint over it just a canvas they'll come back and do it again but you put a mural on it they won't you know i mean in theory that's how i've been working for us i would say 97 percent of time they don't and if they do we come right out and make it nice again you know what i'm saying right be quick quick but anyways so we gave a show of this wall and i showed it to showed it to um my um lead muralist person named j jamie bidard b-e-d-e-r-d b-e-d-a-r-d i have to spell it for myself i can jamie bidard and um she's she's amazing she doesn't i actually do our mural she designed and we get our team or our programs to help us to do it you know but so she designed this one and first she had she had um gave me the draft design it was all flowers and it was going to be beautiful big old sunflower it was going to be a beautiful wall with these flowers you know and then um all the things hit the news and you know as being african-american myself i felt that um i'm affected you know certainly i am so when i came in vermont it was the first it was the whitest state america figured out and i think it's like the second or something so you know even though vermont you know you know it's a it's a good state of being because i came in because i'm just going to back up for a minute i came here because um first i was brought up here i was a kid and then i came up here because you know the motto is unity and freedom the underground railroad went through here they had a documentary about a lady who lives in shallot and uh she had this um shop called africa africa authentica and i'm like damn there's a black girl lady you know so and i learned about brolin's and i knew you know if i hate to get out of town fast brolin's and we need to go to burrows and you don't want to get out you better get the air for the train or whatever to get if i had to get out fast and so um because of those things you know you know more liberal and i learned about people i did my due diligence and so that's why i came here and um you know i'm gonna say i was quick sorry like so um so when i told my mother that i was coming because she used to bring me up here and i was i was coming to live in vermont she said bruce you're gonna make a difference you're gonna make a difference and i didn't know what she meant by but i was raised through the civil rights movement in chicago illinois you know jessie jackson's wife jackie's come out of my house and mirror her watching all that but anyway so one year i called my mother i said mom mom i made a difference i made it she said what you do what you do i said vermont is the second way to stay now well anyway so this bureau was like um you know it was gonna be all flowers and then all these issues about black lives matters and different things came up and i actually couldn't you put a black lives matter up there on that wall and she said um she said bruce first she says you know she sent me a wish text to her she's like done because like she done these are i like she's almost done she ain't going to change her but she didn't mean that she meant done that um that's a great idea and then she said boy oh how am i gonna put black lives matter over flowers i'm like that's better it's peaceful it's harmonious it's calm cooling you know it's not we're not saying black lives matter like you know some like the black panther party where that was around that was originated from in chicago i'm from you know what i'm saying and we're not we wasn't they was they was they was like that either actually but um so i'm just trying to say we we wasn't like we're not trying to put up to this to be mean to nobody because we love everybody you know i mean i wouldn't be in vermont i wouldn't came here to white state america if i felt you know i was against people and i was raised in south side chicago all day you know so i know about the block the neighborhoods that you know i've been a part of it i've been troubling myself you know i'm saying and so i know but i always i always talk to be um the community minded because all those people my mouse raised that way and i always talked was talked to be um do community service i always talked to also make a man to the community or individual you offended you know i mean and i always was taught that keep your community and neighborhoods beautiful work with everybody and it has no color just what you do you know that's how you you're supposed to do you know so i put this uh mirror up there you know i didn't put it up there i i paid it for credit i me and my one among the directors painted it all blue the the pride so i did something you know but um but so it came out so nice and you know it was if i'm not to be like in the perfect spots place you know you come down one way so you're on a nice building and the thing about it was that the thing about it is that i believe everything works in divine order you know i'm saying so i i don't think that this this space and in the timing everything was came to be because of my little tiny brain i think it came to be because there was this perfect it's worked in the order that is supposed to not believe in that that's what i believe everything works in divine order not before and so there it is and so um people came back we got a lot of hits on it cctv got it up we got a vpr i put it up we got like over 300 likes on it and i was looking at other things on vpr that that seemed to be more important to me you know i'm kind of you know in theory you know i'm saying and they have no any of the likes we have so these are brahmanas you know i mean these are people who are looking at that mural and they get the little story about our program art so wonderful on it and um they are really like wow that's nice that's nice they're not like nothing militant or mean about it you know saying something you know like yeah black last night you know they just like they get it it's just harmonious is a it's a we want you to feel it in your heart and your heart and your spirit this mural that's what we want people to do we don't want to you know you know be emotional about it take take opportunities to do something you know people who you know people because let's learn about people let me tell you a quick story so like i don't believe that um i sit on a lot of i sit on a lot of racial probably all of racial justice programs in the state you know you know all of you know i was on the governor and ej ag racial justice uh for i say police fair partial policing uncommon alliance we have changed the data collection with the chiefs surrounding we did i'm a commissioner and when nuski at the city for the city of whisk i'm a commissioner right now i'm a founding member of the community justice center on the state in 1998 and so i sit on a lot of you know been a part of this active you know it's because i felt like you know the numbers you know i guess it may be because you know where i was raised to i'm sure had a lot to do with it but i think it's also because i have to have to represent the people who look like me in a state that have highly nobody who looks like me and the thing about it i don't think um a lot of people in the state or people white people in the state are like racists or whatever i think because i'm i'm about education you know and i think you know and i always try to find what's good about something that what's bad about it you know or what's seeming to me i think it's because first of all this state and a lot of other things white people don't go to church with black people they don't live next door to them they don't go to school with them they don't shop at the same grocery shopping store maybe you'll see them at the malls a few and so um because of that how they get the information normally they go with some stereotypical mostly in their brain based on what they've learned or saw and with food food by up to um the ages of time with african americans coming from slavery or you know you know and all of that and so and they see on tv the news the magazine some black person did this they see on the news some black people did that you know and see all this some black people in poverty look at that look at that neighborhood scene look it's all pitiful you know black people are looting in rioting black all this stuff and so so if it was me and i've never been around a black person i never met one i've never been in schools or churches or you know been shopping in class or whatever none of those things with them well what i'm supposed to think you know me i must have something or a lot of me that says that that person could be like that you know they could be they could be like that you know i'm saying and so so i i believe that in vermont particularly that this is one of the reasons that's why um that most people not racist it's not educated because soon in with me you know and i i'm tell you i'll build to some hybrid situation i know some gangsters on chicago i still know some you know me i i people here that's so-called gang i know them but i my goals to help them change to do the other thing that's what i do you know me and so i've been in trouble myself you know i'm saying but still my programs have over 50 awards i have i have opened a youth centers for years and my free-for-kids chill-out centers and living rooms and you know loft 89 and um fairhaven and rottling and nothing you know usually across the state for youth to come nice ones tight with talk about that a little bit that's very cool the chill-out centers explain that yeah what are you doing well the chill-out centers well they're not chill they've evolved to um are so wonderful galleries and performing centers now and so we only have two and one is in the brolin's the city place mall and one is in university mall but um the chill-out centers for a year little history on it was created by my youth youth advisory boards from all the different high schools around tenon county in 2003 and their goal was that um they should have a place where they can go and hang out and have activities and you know just be a social social service or whatever just hang out with their friends a safe healthy sick healthy outlets and safe places and so uh are you right about that you know what I mean why not and so one kid said we you know we talked about um where and ways and um and stand yeah so we talked about where and where and something named where places came up like um places that's you know empty you know we can try to rent in whatever and then uh somebody said the malls so we always hang out the malls you know I said that's a great idea so I said let me talk to um the owners of the malls and see that I'm I know they're not a hundred percent like but see them get some spaces in there so add some deduct really the lowest cost they could possibly give us or give us and and help with sponsors too you know and I did and they said university malls yeah I'm like wow and I told those kids and they had a few space and they said and plus we hit we have a you could pick your place it's how about my youth and then it was like y'all excited and uh they picked their place and we got all our sponsors you know I mean to donate pool tables brand new so we saw we didn't we all ourselves was brand spectacular we didn't mess around we didn't our kids deserve the best won't come in a crappy place the best but then we also had our kids paint the place up you know man they kept it nice you know but they you know had all the best things and so it was free for any kid we charged no dollars zero dollars and then we had uh um you know we had the first one was in university mall on 2000 square feet then we had one in the bronze mall that was like that was almost 8000 square feet we had um you know dance studio recording studio full kitchen you name it front room computer rooms you know chill rooms you know and so it was real nice that when we kept down for one it was like 7500 five square feet I remember that you know and then um and so we did the same thing and then and so some people from Rutland basketball team uh my friend um Harry Snotty's be there one of the resource man at the city hall and uh so I knew him and his son came and figured Rutland is playing ball from bronze high school and um he came in the mall and he like you know he introduced himself to me and um he knew how I was you know I'm like yeah and so I said he said man we really need one of these in Rutland he really needs and so many people so many people in Rutland have already asked me to come up there and do some stuff this was in 2010 and um so I you know ultimately I said okay if you guys be on my youth board I'll do it and then they were I got a space in um diamond money malls like 3000 square feet I had them painted on love they designed how they want to prove to and the pool company gave us like the the biggest and best two pool you nine footers that's the best you can get and then they had to build them right on the spot brand new brand new wow two of them and they and they came in they said we want that we want that and that's okay and they built on and everything they picked out and we kept that place if just last year when I closed that place down because the mall closed 2010 kids from Rutland high school that's how we got there and then somebody from cast in college I ain't gonna say these names board members from cast and then came to the Rutland mall and they said wow we really love this we got a grant from cast in college can you help us and we have a space can you help us um you know or you know put it all together you know and I said to them first first I need a youth advisory board because I don't do nothing without talking to people who are work for they got to tell me I'm not gonna I probably have a good idea I probably can give the right answer but if they don't get if I don't hear from my youth advisory board I ain't feeling it I'm like I'm not going there so I created a youth advisory board from Rutland high schools and um and from um Mill Rivers and um Fairhaven high school and um because they wanted to do this in Fairhaven and so I got put my little youth board together you know high school they knew they we traveled to Rutland so I can see how this one was laid out you know these kids was like so excited and it was right around um Fairhaven that park around it's beautiful you know right around the prize right on the thing and so they had a little first their first original space was on the city it gave them and it was something like this old it was like we were a city hall there as in the police and there ain't no I was in there but on the last floor up there they had the open space it was so unique because it was so cool because it was old um built building and then it was old it was used for you know kids back in the 50s or whatever and so it had a basketball court upstairs which was really on upstairs but it was you know and so they called it the loft and so it was getting the names um so in this new building we got to it was 89 Main Street so the kids named it loft 89 so that's how we got to loft 89 and it's at the bottom was there's a program or chillout center or whatever and um so they same type of model same thing and we kept that forever you know and um and so that's how we got the centers and they just evolved because my youth board president charlaine fu said we need to change some up a little bit you know i mean let's let's change knock out the uh because he helped me to create the university model center the um because there was living room called the living rooms but um he helped me create those and um so she wanted to evolve them because if she now she's a sophomore in middlebury so she wanted to evolve from five so it was fine and um so we changed into art galleries you know arts are one of art galleries where we help people with art you know um because you know starving artists she's an artist her so our charlaine and a lot of our team is artists um and um in the graffiti art and all that stuff so and we did art shows every year at the marriott we do them every year you know this is gonna come up for our ninth year and um so i thought it was a great idea and then we still and in one of the browns of mine was like about 1000 square feet so just this art gallery and in that gallery now that we're back open you know we're gonna get back to rolling because it's shut down on us and you know like everybody i think it's a bad time but it seemed like it was a bad time um and so so she um so we got that one open and um and so all we're gonna do is showcase art but the one in that that space that space is um um your artists can showcase their art in that space that our our director ali um picks out and they they pay absolutely nothing they get a hundred percent of the proceeds how good is that 100 percent of the proceeds that it's full art right now ali's got it online so if you want to buy art go art so wonderful and check out some of the art in brown smoke so our space in the university we had it for like five months but it was also um it was also cut out you know um because of the virus you know we had so we just started to get art in there in our mural i'll talk about that a minute um so so now art going in there i think ali's gonna have it all done by sunday all ours being out there and it's like it's like five thousand square feet so we're gonna have a performing center in there oh it's gonna be so awesome through stage and everything and in the back of which is none of like about almost thousand we'll have a recording studio and where kids can come and do arts and craft for free even a recording studio now only thing we're gonna charge for the um for people to sell when they sell their art that that place again is that it's 20 percent you we did our due diligence it's a it's so i can't believe it art galleries i don't know i don't know it's my first time over so i maybe i'll learn why didn't you do it but charge 40 it's our 50 to 60 percent of the person's artist payment off their payment depending on their art in there 50 to 60 percent oh good lord that's wonderful they raise they price up about a thousand bucks or you know you know i don't know if they i don't tell me that's why they raise up because their fees so it don't seem like they ain't really no fee you know but for us 20 percent we want to make it right for you know people you know me and um we have all different type of artists that's part of them have like fancy you know really artists who've been doing things right now it's already now you know i mean university ball artists who've been doing things for years and got galleries around the world you know me and there and there may have some neighboring you know some cool like new artists you know so it's collective of all and then we're gonna have um artists from um part of our part of our united college club they're also a wonderful organization that we're real close with her is university vermont art club so they're they're they're helping this one and it's another one they're doing in the university mall we're gonna talk to you one about pros you're gonna do but um and so so that's what we do at our gallery it's gonna be for me so we've got a comedy show cover a free comedy show right with our um max palmer oh look up max palmer he's so funny he works with us we don't we do comedy shows where his money is on our team in the university mall it's gonna be july 18th at like these things it's five p.m right in the center court and we're gonna have like you know all the pva social distancing you know but it's gonna be just a event where people can actually feel good about um you know get their mind off of something i mean just have a great time you know and just laugh and talk and all this have a moment you know you know it's a moment so i'm looking forward to that it's july 18th i'm thinking five p.m if it ain't five p.m i'll make it five p.m now as i said five p.m as in center court um where you know we're right across from our gallery um hold on yeah so it's gonna be so i'm i'm looking forward to that i want to laugh too max is so funny that's about i'm so so like i said we do a lot of things and it keeps my head is going everywhere so i'm not i'm not um going right here it's a lot of energy yeah it's a lot of energy yeah hopefully some support yeah so folks want to know more they go to they can look up service rendered incorporated or they can just look up uh at art so wonderful at arts a r t s so wonderful at art so wonderful and they'll see a lot of things so they see a lot of our murals curve murals they'll see um you know see this mirror here see our artists you'll see my art director ali and um you know and all our team you know in there and they can contact any of them you know and um we're very proud to work with uvm art club um patrick man and he's the president and he writes right with us you know he's like he's on everything i say patrick man as a vat you if you want to work you want if you want your club to do some art these are murals you better get on board us and then you're like okay okay you're so excited and then he didn't know i mean you know people most people don't know when i say something like that i really mean it i mean and you know and then and all come start we start right like the next day it's not like you know you're gonna start in three weeks you know tomorrow buddy you know i mean and so that basically he kind of started like that you know i mean with this mirror i mean the next thing i got he's doing the university mall a mirror now he got it in one of pro street to do he's got stuff and two other locations in them are so so he's like oh my god you said that and he was on the press he's on the news he got so i talked about um um uvm art club and so how wonderful is that how what's the measurement on that right there really i just stood the measurement and what we do and probably a lot of people do is too great to measure i cannot put a measurement on that now look what he got for his resume this uh his portfolio his um press kit just these things he's pressed up this now this he's got this right now just work with us so and that's everybody get that from us everybody we make sure of it it's what we got over 50 awards yeah well it's funny um one mayor at see how mayor told me i was a hub ever out Bruce you're the hub i'm like i'm looking at you to make you the mayor you tell me i'm the hub you know i'm like i don't know but all i do is try to make things work and what i do is like because we need help you know people want to want to help us go to service rendered incorporated art so wonderful we gotta go for we gotta we have a art so wonderful go fund me page right now because we need recording equipment before we need to provide free equipment for free and we'll pay our engineers we'll pay our engineers but free but anyway so the one of mayor told me that i was a hub you know i was connected i mean like like you just said no and what i was saying was that i'm like that because we need help i just the things the mall spaces this thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars that things that we do i do know that that most people don't they can't do it because they don't they don't they could do it but they don't think how we how like we do it because we have community partners and how our community partners we don't say thank you see you later we say how can we help you too with our other partners and i do that i'm i do that you know i bring people to rotarian medians i bring people to connect with other people who do kind of like they need their service and and they did with the deals they make it's way way bigger than what they you know give to us but but because what they do for us i can't put a measure in so i i don't so it's like it's a balance so we help others that's why we continue to have our sponsors since the day we started they still support us i don't have to put in a 100 page proposal i don't you know i don't have to do it i say this is what we're doing they understand what we do and um may i send a check i can text them or email them or whatever you know this is what we're going to do and they say and they get it you know and i had to have the nerves to ask them why one year why one of our sponsors you know why they do that and um and he told me you know his is multi-million and all these this that going for something he ain't got to do this stuff for me every time i ask him when i put together something like a 10 page proposal and he's i just text him or email him and he said good he said well bruce i i go people everybody asks me for money and that um and i um when they send me i get the newsletter i get their measurement reports and they tell me that you know you know well if we had in theory if we had thank you for the cereal that you provided for these kids i'm just this isn't hypothetical you know and it and it was great in the milk but if they had bananas in them we can get we can get more kids to come and so can you give us more money you know and so he says that's a part of getting you say money you say what i do i like to you know see it myself you know i mean and i could i should believe them about the emergency but it's i can't wrap myself around it too much he said but when i go to your places and you say it's going to be 300 kids there it's 300 kids there he said i can see that i can see your mission i can see the kids i can see that they're in a safe place where there's no drugs and i call tobacco i can see them interacting i see them have fun i see chaperones or security there whatever it is i see that you don't you don't have to um i get it so i don't have to go to you i if you i don't have to go and i see you on the news i see on your cable shows i see you know i don't i don't have to go there i don't have to worry about if my money being spent for real i see it and more than one of those type of persons told me that and that's why we have our sponsors for i can say since 1999 they're still there they ain't going nowhere that's how we're able to do the things we do and then we help them too based on what they do with our other sponsors just like them you know hey you need some recycling you're in for all your zim means a square feeder of property yeah oh let me get you introduce you to this person they meet boom donnie now how big is that how big is that he these guys here these guys multi multi guys millionaire guys and i mean and i'm able to help them a little guy like me which i think i'm no i don't think nobody's better than nobody make a deal because it makes me feel good because now they help us we help is a sponsorship is a partnership and i and we the partner we have to do our part too i don't like thank you hit your thank you letter you know i'll say hey i'll send them a text thanks man that was good no we i'll send you i don't you know how many people came and blah blah blah you know i might come through yeah definitely come to you know you know something like that sponsorship is a partner that's right and i i believe about it all the time that's why that's why and that's why let me tell you so this art so wonderful logo was created by our person who created our program united college because i was saying all the schools we work but the other college is working all the different colleges and students and um mary and gormaski well 1999 she created that um united college and she said bruce she was going to champlain college she said bruce um champlain college students st michael students and uvm students team that don't get along they said especially st michael's and um uvm he said he's like champlain students that we like the medias between the vote and i don't know why i see and she said we should put together a college program that um worked with that that we can work together and um and she was telling me that if they all work together they can build it based on united based on champlain college uvm and st michael's they have a credible resource they they they're the bigots in the state for schools maybe calisthenics or whatever but um as i said go right ahead i said give her the name miss him goes into jexson she wrote it down she called united college club and and it goes on today you know and mary gormaski when i call her to talk about her the measurement they outcome she's still all through college she helped us with united college club because you would they do events and all kind of cool things and on caps off campus and you know we do bernie jerry every year like the vermona contest and the greeks would come in you know i mean eat up ice cream for some wind every year we had to we had the uh we had the vermona contest title because the greeks we had the party in the land would come in and do that vent that you um been in jerry's yet but anyways so mariam she still helped when she graduated she listened quite a lot now beautiful kids and family she still do what's the way she do you know graduate from champlain and the graphic and then she created our someone for logo kind of looked like that with our logo and we still she's she helped us with our um studio i mean our um events that our shows that uh maria every year she's still a part of what we do so yeah so um so anyways so the mirror we're doing in um and um people should come by and see it come it's a mirror we're doing a university mall right now it's going on actually right now and it's 80 foot long it's about communities about everything vermona have to offer and if you're in that mall and you look and you're right by baldy and baff and victoria seeking on the side coming you see a big one said vermont that's ours too now on um soon i think next week or so we're going to start our new mirror we have we have uh pro street beverage on the university said those mirrors are ours two of those and one around the back and on the parking side we're going to change that del rey's cars chasing the bus whatever and it's going to be um it's like a hundred feet long it's going to be a dedication to our frontline workers our artist jamie bianardis is um she she showed me the design so nice you have like you know the nerves the fire you know the you know all the frontline workers essential workers on that wall with some type of dedication to them it's going to be so nice and i'm so happy to be a part i'm going to help out with that probably just prime wall but we have uvm art club is going to be there uh ali our our director all our our team is will be there to help out on that when we will get any community person want to put a pressure and we're going to do it so thanks so much yeah thanks thank you guys for like covering me up for since around 2001 or 2003 you've been doing shows at cctv god what else you guys we wouldn't know what to do um cctv 17 we would know what to do you know i just couldn't get the word out you know and we couldn't in this last you know we've been guessing to tell their stories to we don't just say um thank you come on to other people to hear what you do too you know and so we weren't able to do that without um cctv 17 we just wasn't able to do it so thank you very much