 So Richard Hananya was exposed of the weekend by the Huffington Post Supposed to saying a lot of ill-advised things And goals and things that were you know needlessly offensive to a Great part of the population. He's offended community standards. I like Richard Hananya is one of my probably 10 favorite Public intellectuals, but I don't feel bad for him. All right. This is the The bad that he built for himself. He created this. He seems to be a strong capable person So he created this trouble for himself. He seems to be on a good path. All right He made it an effective. I thought apology and I thought the article was was fair Okay, how about Dennis Prager saying it's evil. It's not evil to think about doing things with kids Yes, I agree with Dennis Prager because to me what is evil is actually doing things Not just thinking about things. All right, so Actually doing things to me. That is evil. What am I talking about? So this is a clip that a lot of people were just very eager to show me so here we go only with behavior He would you use the word evil of animated child pornography because I certainly would know I would use evil only with behavior That's where we might differ for getting the sex issue. You can't be evil You didn't do evil if you thought evil Animated pictures of pornography. I'm not doing something evil. That's correct. Yeah, I think that's I think that's despicable. Yeah, really? Yes, of course Okay, so there's not much difference between Masturbating to anime pictures or just masturbating to pictures in your head pornography is simply male fantasies acted out So if you don't hurt anyone and you have naughty fantasies Okay, everyone has thought about killing someone. All right, so is it more evil to Think about killing someone or to think about sex with with children All right, so depending on who you might be killing in your fantasy Generally speaking, most people would consider murder more evil than interfering with a child So I would agree with Dennis Prager. I would only apply the word evil to behavior not to fantasies Not to your imagination Not to You know what what you crank off to at night, right? I don't think it's ideal. I think it's concerning I think it's disturbing. I think it's repulsive All right, I don't identify with it. It's completely foreign to me, but I would not describe it as evil So, yeah, I agree. It's not evil to have thoughts Yes, I believe that murder is more evil than sexually abusing children Most children who are sexually abused to the best of my understanding go on to lead relatively normal lives Most people who are murdered do not go on to live any life So yeah, I would say in in my value system in my hero system committing murder is At least ten times worse than committing child abuse So we should probably do a show decoding trauma. So child abuse was really invented in 1962 That's the first time we start seeing the word and the term thrown around and then child abuse just gets endlessly and endlessly Expanded so that child abuse now effectively means Anything that you did to hold back the flourishing of your child now gets defined as child abuse So if you vote Republican that you're committing child abuse if you have guns in the house You're now committing child abuse according to many people if you don't they're paid for therapy for your child if you don't encourage them to Follow their gender identity in whatever direction they wish you're committing child abuse So let's have a look at the chat. Yeah, the thought and the act are inseparable. That's not true Everybody thinks about murdering someone most people don't murder So for every person who thinks about committing murder only about one in 50,000 persons actually commits murder. So the thought and the actor inseparable. Yeah That's true about point zero zero one percent of the time the other ninety nine point nine ninety nine percent of the time It's not true. It's not even close to true. It's not even the same universe as truth It's absolutely absurd. There is no zip zero zilch factual basis for saying that the thought and the act are inseparable Whoever acted must have had the thought. Yes, but ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent of people who had the thought did not act So the connection between the thought and the act. Yeah, it occurs about point zero zero zero zero zero one percent of the time So ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of the time. You're completely wrong But point zero zero zero zero zero zero one percent of the time you're right So for me from my perspective if your position is wrong ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of the time You hold an absurd position. You're completely Removed from reality you are in your own fantasy world There's absolutely no correlation between what you hold to be true and what is actually true right Everybody thinks about murdering someone and yet only about one in fifty thousand people depending on the group Of people actually commits murder. So the correlation between the thought and the deed Occurs about point zero zero zero zero zero zero one percent of the time So about point zero zero zero zero zero one percent of the time. You're right, but ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine Nine percent of the time. You're absolutely wrong completely wrong. Absolutely no connection So Judy isn't basically doesn't consider sexual perversion a sin. Yeah, you think Judaism just thinks it's great for Adults to think about you know having sinful sex Guess what it is a sin in Judaism to think about committing sin it is a sin in Judaism to Indulge in masturbation masturbation is a sin not just in Judaism in every traditional way of life of which I'm aware Masturbation is a sin right people masturbate to lustful thoughts and in Judaism in Christianity I would expect in Islam and in pretty much every traditional way of life of which I'm aware masturbation is a sin Indulging in lustful thoughts is a sin. Whether your lustful thoughts are about adults or children or animals or tree trunks Right, it's a sin. The Judaism basically doesn't consider sexual perversion to sin as long as you know Judaism puts a higher priority on how you act than on what you think about right Everybody thinks about committing murder But Judaism considers it far more heinous to actually commit murder Than to simply think about it to be human is to occasionally think about murdering someone I'm not sure there's ever been anyone alive who hasn't ever considered murdering someone But there is a pretty big difference between thinking about murder and committing murder Most people are perfectly capable of having thoughts flow through their head about committing murder and not acting on it So how do I know that everybody thinks about committing murder because everybody is placed in situations where somebody's existence very life All right is against their interests Somebody has a woman that you want somebody has Dangerous damaging information on you somebody is hoarding something that you want Somebody is humiliating you somebody is damaging you Right everybody experiences pain and hurt and humiliation and damage and destruction at the hands of other people and Often people will feel absolutely helpless to do anything about it And so they fantasize what if I could get rid of the person who is torturing me What if I could get rid of the person who's damaging me? What if I could get rid of the person who is humiliating me? What if I could get rid of the person who is just constantly doing me harm? What if I could get rid of the person who is threatening my family? What if I could get rid of the person who is harming my wife my children my community? NMA pictures of prepubescent girls. Yeah, I think that's absolutely disgusting repellent and appalling and I Would not be in favor of legalizing, you know NMA pictures of prepubescent girls in it, you know in any kind of sex-related context Fantasies can and often do lead to action. Yes point zero zero zero one percent of the time fantasies about murdering someone Actually lead to murder but 99 point nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of the time fantasizing about murder Does not lead to committing murder does not even lead to kicking someone does not even lead to punching someone It does not lead to you doing anything concrete to actually put the person's life in The danger so Sometimes yeah fantasies point zero zero zero zero one percent of the time you're under something don't try to pill-pull your way out of it Yeah, right so Yeah, so the reality is you're wrong 99 99 99 percent of the time, but I'm trying to pill-pull my way out of it, right? Your religion leads you to a schizoid personality. Yeah, I guess it does because If I knew I could be like you Who who considers the thought and the deed exactly the same? Think about how much more advanced I could be I given everyone considers murder yet 99.9999 percent of people that commit murder. Wow if I knew I could be like you and See something as true that almost never happens. How much more advanced and integrated I could be I could live in this delusional world where a straight thought In a straight fantasy or absolutely the equivalent to going out and murdering torturing and raping people Who is saying these comments? I'm responding to the comments by Oslov Surtun Bekov and His comments reflect the the point of view are probably 20 30 40 percent of Americans so Richard Hananya right said some ill-advised things. I don't feel bad for the guy. He said it. He did it you should stand behind it and He's really good at playing the game right Richard. And I is really good at playing the game He's built a really nice career for himself. He's You know raised a lot of money. He's befriended the right people. He's gotten the the the elite approving of him he Wanted to fly close to the Sun right if Richard Hananya had been more content With a lower profile if he hadn't been so attention seeking He hadn't been so histrionic if he hadn't been so dramatic in his presentations If he hadn't been such an effective player of the game All right, then his downfall wouldn't be as as big but he wanted to fly close to the Sun and he got got burned and I Like the way he's approaching things. I hope he's strong enough to continue and I hope he's strong enough to deal with the fallout But great points have been raised on Twitter. Like why don't ex-communist ever face the same repercussions that Richard Hananya faces like I Rhetorically played with communism for about two years. I would tell people about age 20 and 21 I love telling people that I was an atheistic communist. It was a rhetorical ploy for me I like to push buttons and I never joined any communist organizations and there went to come any communist meetings I was not a caring member of a communist party. I never did anything Related to communism beyond I'd like shocking people and there was no pushback No, no blowback and no damage to my life of which I'm aware and a great deal of intellectual thought and a great deal of our elites have had, you know, pretty intense flotations with Marxism and many of them still Use a Marxist perspective on life. So what exactly is a communist or a Marxist perspective on life, you know Just a okay and someone with a right-wing approach to life such as what Richard Hananya Exemplified for many years under a pseudonym, you know, why does he need to be destroyed? Well, it just simply comes down to subjective hero systems. We have different hero systems Now you try to approach it objectively you can try to make the argument Well, objectively large number of people in our society, particularly those with power and money and influence those who control the cultural means of production They take great offense at what Richard Hananya has said and will therefore punish it So much of this just comes down to power right the left dominates our institutions the left controls the cultural means of production they have the means of Punishing people with these kind of dissident views. So when will the right develop something equivalent to media matters, right? Media matters is very effective, right? They do a really good job at You know taking clips that make right-wingers look stupid in the eyes of ordinary people and they do a really good job of Documenting that they're very effective warriors for their cause Why can't the right develop something similarly effective? Why can't the right? Go after people with communist backgrounds. Why can't the right? You know attack the careers of people who are still embodying a communist and Marxist point of view, right? When will the right Take power in this country. When will the right take back institutions or effectively develop counter institutions and Become more effective players of the power game A lot of this just comes down to power. I'd hope that the right takes some lessons from this That's That's becoming much more effective at playing these kind of games. I think that having a post article on Richard Hananya was fair Why doesn't the right do things that are equally effective pay attention to details fund? Intellectuals fund intellectual publications fund think tanks fund institutions that can give careers to people like Richard Hananya and Stand by them in these sort of situations Right. Why do Republicans so often just cuck to the left why they so desirous of mainstream acceptance? Well, because the left controls the cultural means of production Well, why not develop right-wing cultural means of production of a much higher quality than what the right is currently producing Whoa, we've got Dr. Mangler back in the chat. Welcome dr. Mangler Did I read Richard host back in the day? No, I don't recall ever reading him or thinking about him Right-wing is probably too busy talking about Bill Gates in or probes. Yeah, a lot of right-wing Punditry is moronic and that's what I've been devoting this channel to over the past few months Going to decoding how stupid it is and Maybe it's time that the right picks up its game and the right has picked up its game in many ways It's developed alternative means of cultural production like rumble And I don't know if the people behind Odyssey are right wing. Maybe they're just libertarian But we do have more choices in live streaming and in social media than we did a few years ago Okay, I've never paid much attention to You're on you're on Brock. Is he is he worth paying attention to? Let's give him a gun over that so there's breaking story about Richard Hananya that we're gonna talk about and I don't like to talk about breaking news because You don't have the time and you don't have all the information and the commentary that comes afterwards But but I'm pretty comfortable that I've got enough to say here given given what I know Kind of given what Richard has posted since this news has come out that there's enough to enough to talk about This is not a pleasant topic. The only reason I'm doing this is that I have for a year now two years About his book has blobs from Peter teal and many others And anyway, he's up and coming rising star Okay, I've given him three minutes and he hasn't said anything. Let me try one more chance. You're on basically Sterilizing anybody with an IQ below 90 right IQ below 90 and and of course okay, so different people have different hero systems and That's what it comes down to. Maybe your hero system comes from Christianity. Maybe it's idiosyncratic. Maybe it comes from Judaism We just simply have a clash of hero systems here It's part of that mentioning and highlighting the fact that that wouldn't that would be mostly black people That is that this involved mostly blacks You know, his his rants his essays his articles his post his comments I now well documented they're out there and Yeah, I mean this guy this guy was an out-and-out unequivocal, you know horrible racist of okay Okay, you're right Absolutely nothing to be gained from listening to him Wonder what's going with ecchi locks live series very encouraging very encouraging Over the past several months. I have had multiple Conversations and exchanges with regular straight-ahead either normie cons or Liberals or whatever who are now catching on omg. We are white and It's no longer just a random factoid about yourself Okay, so I know nothing about ecchi locks aside from what it what he presents on live streams in my life experience I don't have a Great deal of respect for 99% of people who talk this way because more than 99% of the time their perspectives are based on a Lack of understanding of US census data They take the US census at its face that you know whites are beginning to get minorities in 2040 or 2050 they take all sorts of data on its face and then they devote their life To a crusade for white racial consciousness But they didn't even understand the most basic facts that they are devoting their life to and so therefore how can I respect them? But you are exiling yourself from polite society. You are isolating yourself You're setting yourself up for worlds of pain You are very likely alienating yourself from your family from the friends the people you grew up with when you go on this White racial consciousness Crusade and it's almost always based on a faulty understanding of the data as I've often talked about on this show If you are 15 16th white and 1 16th Chinese as I am and so if I were to put down at the US census You're a data that I am but Asian and Caucasian. I would be counted solely as Caucasian Solely as Asian even though I'm 15 16th Caucasian All right, if you put down that you're black and white all right like Obama one white parent one black parent He would be counted solely as black. So the US census data is slanted towards providing a disproportionate number of non-whites and minimizing the number of whites and yet people who go on these crusades that The ecchi lux is on it. They don't seem to have the you know The foggiest notion of the basis on which they go on such a crusade. So why would they? Why would they go on these crusades? When they don't know what they're talking about Because everybody wants to feel like a hero All right, and so it's just absurd. It's hard to respect someone on a hero quest when it's based on An inability to understand basic data right when someone is coming at this they're controversial they're isolating their Perspective that will alienate them from family friends community and lead them to a small constricted unhappy ineffective life and Very likely you know down some kind of dark conspiracy rabbit hole. Yeah, it's hard for me to respect that completely Unnecessary maybe understand what you're talking about maybe Develop other things in your life aside from becoming a race warrior So in my experience 99% of the people who talk like ecchi lux is talking here And I don't know anything about ecchi lux that the human being so I'm not talking about ecchi lux the the human being I'm just talking about 99% of people. I've known I know anything about who take on this, you know White racial consciousness is that number one transcendent overall, you know passion in life Usually they don't know very much and usually they're marginalized losers that they're consistently losing in life So someone who's got a family Someone who's earning a good income someone who's developing important skills someone who is You know cherished in their community someone who's volunteering and making other people's lives better All right, and then they have this as you know something in Addition to a flourishing life. All right. I gotta respect that they are pursuing an unpopular hero system But overwhelmingly I find that people who pursue that the hero system that ecchi lux is Describing people who are rabidly devoted to that and not only destroy their own lives They not only keep themselves small and isolated and poor and marginalized and desperate and increasingly prone to conspiracy theories But they damage the lives of everyone who cares about them and they may play a role in predisposing, you know Unhinged personalities from going down a very dark path. So count me skeptical About this attitude that ecchi lux is describing It's no longer just a thing, you know, like today. I'm wearing I don't know a white shirt instead of a blue shirt or you know, I'm wearing a red jacket instead of a green jacket or whatever It's not just a random thing And there are many of them that are straight. This is happening IRL. I'm telling you. I'm in Los Angeles. Okay Here in Los Angeles There are normal people Okay, people who are not clued in people who don't spend time obsessively Browsing news sites and looking for, you know, very spicy headlines or whatever I'm watching people Become racially conscious around me. Now a lot of it to be fair is happening on a So for some people developing a stronger in-group identity is a good thing right but In my experience 99% of people who become more racially conscious end up Damaging their lives and damaging the lives of people who care about them So it just seems to me that these sort of marginalized ideas primarily attract marginalized people and People who are on the margins of life, right people who are on the fringes All right, they're much more likely to get picked off by the walls in the world But how do you stay safe? How do you maximize your safety? You're flourishing your happiness and your effectiveness by staying in the middle of the herd? By staying right in the middle of your community Among your loved ones among people in your profession Among people with your interests among people with your educational attainment With people with your hobbies with people with your devotions with your faith community with your religious and ethnic Commitments right state right in the middle Right and you tend to thrive so in-group identity. Yeah, usually a good thing but if you're taking on an in-group identity that is as As Regarded as heinous and disgusting and you know attacked as you know white racial consciousness in America today You're very likely to fall out of balance You're very likely to damage your life when they're just far more effective ways of building up a good life You could join a church Right churches tend to be racially homogeneous So if you really devoted to what you're talking about, you know Go join a church or go join an orthodox synagogue orthodox synagogues are overwhelmingly composed of Ashkenazi Jews who overwhelmingly consider themselves white Go join a book club or a poetry club or go volunteer. All right, you can have real life concrete in-group commitments and community with whoever you want to You know join Right, you just have to use some good sense in taking into consideration. What will be the effect of my words? It doesn't matter that you are ontologically Right and pure in your perspectives. You have to take in a consideration What will be the effect of my words on other people? How will that cause them to react to me? How will that cause them to react to what is dear and precious to me? Right, you can be 100% correct and It'll advise to say things that you believe are 100% correct, you know to just People indiscriminately you have to use good judgment should never say anything to people that they can't handle Because people won't react well to that they would just marginalize you and distance themselves, right? you start talking this way and 98% of people will want nothing to do with you which would deem you to a really miserable life Ineffective life a poor life an isolated life a life on the margins, right? A life, you know away from the herd where you're much more likely to get picked off by the walls that dominate the world around us so Here's Chris Mooney talking about the Republican brain First aware of a body of research on a topic called biased or motivated reasoning and one important researcher is actually an old friend of mine His name is Brendan Nyhan. He's a political scientist at Dartmouth now But I remember him back when he was a journalist like me in DC And we were always concerned even then about why they're all these crazy wrong claims and politics and they pollute the discourse And they never seem to go away, all right so he started to study this scientifically and What he did in one of his interesting experiments was he constructed fake newspaper articles and he had liberals and conservatives read them Of course, he's testing their political beliefs before he gives them the actual article to read And what he did in the article was that the article would contain a factual claim made by a politician often George W. And let's have a look at the chat Riccardo says lol at re-streaming ecchi Luxe ecchi is pretty intense on Twitter. He's in every reply person Jewish memes Where does he find the time? He's like the energizer bunny of naming them Richard Hananya is so unpopular that Luke can't even get into double digits with his name in a stream title To truce one for the people and one for yourself Yeah, you have to take into account other people I know you don't want to take into account other people. It's like F. Everybody else. I just want to do what's right in my own head Well, good luck with that It's like when so many people come on the stream and push back at the idea of staying your lane and their attitude is F Stay in your lane. I'm not gonna stay in my lane And so I say don't stay in your lane get out there and get out of your lane Drive down the freeway at 80 miles an hour and change lanes constantly Right go to work and start telling your boss how things really are start telling your mother You know how the world really is start telling random strangers how the world really is When you see a police officer, you know go over there and hug him and pretend to you know Make a move for his gun right get out of your lane and see how that works So obviously words are just you know digital Just metaphors for reality but From from my limited life experience people who get out of their lane Generally speaking right it damages their life and it damages the lives of those around them people who stay in their lane Generally speaking that kind of attitude seems to enhance their life Megan Rapina should have stayed in her like yeah, so I was rooting for the women's World Cup American soccer soccer team I was rooting for them. I was watching the penalty shootout live I so I only watched about five minutes live of the women's World Cup But I was rooting for them and then as soon as they lost I just changed frames in my head and I was glad that they lost So I would have been glad that they won glad that they lost and I think this is what happy people tend to do They tend to look for you know, whatever frame whatever perspective Provides them with happiness. And so when the Dallas Cowboys win my favorite football team, I'm happy and Then when the Dallas Cowboys lose I try to reframe it Okay, good This will you know separate me from you know something that's degenerate something I should not spend so much emotional energy on this is how the world works and You know, let me try to do the best with it as opposed to when I've been in a depressive state and then I would just reframe everything that happens as You know terrible that were we're doomed and so I noticed with most right-wing Dissidents they reframe everything in terms of we are doomed right there absolutely addicted to feeling doomed and Then happy people there. They really enjoy feeling happy So they just keep reframing everything that happens trying to make the the best of it now when I suffer a serious setback, right? You'll notice me on some days, you know I'm less happy than others less energy than others or sometimes I won't stream for a week I'll make very few streams for two or three weeks and it's usually because I've had some setbacks in my life. I Did hardly any streams between 2012 and 2014 because I was really struggling with my credit card debt with my life over all I was struggling to you know come to terms with the reality of my life And I just didn't have the strength and I wasn't able to you know reframe things in a positive and effective Manor and even now, you know, I suffer my humiliations, right? I suffer my losses I suffer my you know broken dreams and It's a setback. I don't try to reframe everything into a positive way. There has to be I think a few minutes a day Where you feel your pain? You feel your loss? You feel your humiliation? so, I Don't know maybe I probably average Probably average 15 minutes a day feeling sad meaning, you know, there are days where I spend probably two hours feeling sad and then Nothing at all for for a week But generally speaking happy people like feeling happy they keep reframing things into a ways that make them feel good Unhappy people become addicted to unhappiness and to losing and they just constantly reframed things No in in alignment with with losing All right Chris Mooney lefty here talking about the Republican brain Butch and it'd be a factual claim a real quote that you're the George W. Bush had said something like saying that Iraq has weapons of mass Destruction or saying that the tax cuts Okay, who is ecchi Luxe ecchi Luxe used to be a regular on this stream and He tends to say the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again There's not a great deal of variety to what he has to say. I think he would be more effective I think he would benefit by You know expanding his interests he just seems to have a One-track interest white racial consciousness Jews are terrible Right two tracks, right those two tracks and that there never seems to be anything side from those two tracks so Yeah, I think Steve sailor makes a good point about women's soccer. Maybe we shouldn't be venerating the American women's soccer team because women are too delicate for this type of Physical sport or there's a good strong argument to be made the women are too delicate because they are something like two to eight times More likely the men to get all sorts of really nasty really severe injuries I mean, it's obvious that women are much more delicate than men Why would one encourage women to engage in activities that are between say 200 times to you know 800 times More significantly dangerous for them than for men I Probably not a good idea People can't handle having their bubble poke. Yeah, that's true for me, too. I Mean I get I get piqued I get hurt I get but I get sore You know, I have my own bubbles that I live in Richard Ananya is the most disliked man in America Megan repeat at the most dislike woman Why went Richard Ananya go away. He's he's like open borders. No one wants it, but we don't have a choice Well, he's got a lot of powerful friends and he's got a lot of money behind him Megan repeat I should have stayed in. Yeah, if she hadn't started talking out on politics and LGBTQ rights Right, they wouldn't be as much rejoicing by conservatives The American women's soccer team losing and it was so obnoxious that they you know made this great Big campaign for equal pay when a group of 14-year-old boys can absolutely thrash them at the quality of soccer That say a women's team even the purported best women's team in the world the American soccer team the quality of performance and meaning entertainment sports or entertainment the quality of the entertainment they convey is Decidely inferior compared to the male version just like there are a lot of activities where women are far superior in general to what men can do Echie locks is making his own drive as Lane Echie locks making his own lane as he drives his tractor trailer of a Twitter account right through the heart of Jewish power I like Echie seems to have a soul. Yeah, he is he is like a ball, right? I've never rooted for the US women's national team women's sports is inherently a political project It masculinizes women. I like Echie. I don't think all that posting is accomplishing his goals Also, when enjoy was right about women don't remember what he said whenever I feel sad I simply remember my favorite things like rain drops on roses all feelings are transitory and whiskers on kittens He's on Twitter. Yeah, Echie keeps his talking points in his lane Yeah, he's staying in his lane, but if your lane is headed towards oncoming traffic. I would suggest taking a different lane Why do all female soccer players look managed? Well, I noticed many of the Swedish soccer players who knocked out America look quite attractive. So there are many attractive female soccer players Men's soccer is boring women's soccer is the square root of boring. We're all bubble people. I am woman. He me bore male pole dancing is lame even for gay men My goddess is you suckers the the vanguard of political homosexuality So Yeah, having disdain for soccer is probably a healthy American thing Because if you're American, why don't you love American sports, right? Every nation should love its own sports It's part of having a strong in-group identity and part of struggling having a strong in-group identity Is that you have some disdain and hostility and negative feelings about other countries in their foreign ways Including their foreign spots right back to Chris Mooney decoding the Republican brain increased revenue to the government But these are false claims and in the latter case. It's probably you know economically or even physically impossible So he would and then in some of the fake articles The journalists would step in and say this is not true This is not correct in other articles the journalists would do no such thing Which is what journalists usually do no such thing So what happened what happened in this research when conservatives are reading a claim by George W. Bush that they believe That's false and then the the journalist says it's false. What happens to their belief in the claim? All right, has anybody seen the movie swingers you guys too young for that? Have you anybody played blackjack? What do you do if you get a 10 or 11 in blackjack? Double down that's what the conservatives did Okay, so here's the essence of chris mooney and his book the republican brain He's got intriguing physiological explanations for why conservatives may be less dispersed towards expressive moderation than liberals so apparently Conservatives have a stronger fight or flight response. They tend to have a larger right amygdala Which is the evolutionary more ancient part of the brain that generates fight-or-flight responses Supposedly liberals possess more gray matter in the anterior cingulate cortex Right the evolutionarily newer system that suspends the amygdala's automatic responses to assess facts and detect errors So he says conservatives tend to be more instinctive more given to immediate reflex actions Liberals more reflective and cognitive better able to suspend automatic fear responses to undertake more careful evaluation of the facts So the ideology of conservatives and liberals is reflected in their physiology Every human just like every animal possesses a fear system capable of rapid fire defensive reactions But that rapid fire defensive reaction is stronger and more predominant among conservatives and I think that may well be right and in some Situations the conservative response will be more adaptive and in other Situations the left wing response will be more adaptive I don't think either is automatically Set out by the will of heaven to 100 be correct so Mooney argues that conservatives larger amygdala right their fight-or-flight effect Changes how they process information including political information So liberals and conservatives differed not only in the content of their beliefs But also in the rigidity with which they hold them So conservatives tend to have a greater need for closure than do liberals so conservatives prefer books and poetry and TV shows and movies and novels that have An ending that have closure liberal tend to have a more open personality they tend to have Less conscientiousness Than conservatives conservatives tend to be higher in conscientiousness and liberals And they tend to have a more closed personality They doubled down On their false belief. They believed it's stronger than before After it was refuted So what is up with that? Clearly you need some kind of psychological explanation for something like that occurring and not only was there this research on what's called motivated reasoning We also see in a lot of research and I was becoming aware of this this tendency for conservatives who know more About an issue or who at least think they know more about an issue to be more factually wrong about it Than if they know less All right, and I call this in the book the smart idiot effect All right, it's very very important for understanding Okay, so I was listening to a moderately lefty podcast called psych got a couple of a couple of fairly well-known psychologists david bizarro and Bloom from from yell here They are chapter 13 of this podcast talking about individual differences. Make sure they know you heard about give well from psych to get your donation Much or thanks to give well for sponsoring this episode So personality is one of the major ways people differ and we talk about as psychologists and others intelligence And there's just to be about personality a lot of debate about intelligence a few basics about intelligence First the average intelligence is 100 as test by the IQ test This isn't because of some miraculous convergence of a perfect number It's because the tests are scaled to be at 100 it shows a sort of standard bell curve You could kind of just pluck up from your imagination and IQ has tested within societies like ours It's not so clear. We get the same result in hundred gather societies and so on Uh correlates is related to most good things in life. So people with higher IQ Okay psych podcast with david bizarro Psychologist and paul bloom a psychologist at Yale, this is paul bloom speaking use our healthier. They're happier. They're a kinder According to various tests. They're less racist or less sexist and they do better in life They do better job performance in the military. They do better at school. They test better and so on I think it was a stewart richie who said there's only one negative thing that correlates with high IQ and that's a bad eyesight Right. I think there is a very strong stereotype that people who are high in IQ are less happy And that's just not borne out by the research. We have some stereotypes We have the sort of image of a child prodigy who grows up to be miserable, but that's that's not the norm Yeah, that's right. There's obviously diminishing returns So the difference between being an IQ of saying 90 going up to 100 is very big from 100 to 110 Is um is really big and then as it gets up and up and up the difference phase you get diminishing And then kind of the same way you get diminishing returns from money If you make a $50,000 a year and someone gives you another 50,000 that's gonna make a huge difference If you make half a million, okay, this is I don't think he's correct here There are significant differences between people Between large groups with a 160 IQ out of 150. There is no level of IQ At which there there are no differences. All right people with 170 levels of IQ if you got it, you know a large enough group they Accomplish far more than people with a 160 average IQ It won't be much of a difference But some people have said that to the same well and then too much intelligence Is is is no good at all. Maybe it's bad for you It makes you kind of a kind of you know, awful in some way takes you away from other people It turns out not to be true. So I cite this study. I do a jokey thing in my book I'll just read this aloud. I have in front of me in one classic decade-long study Psychologists took 320 children who tested before the age of 13 as having high mathematical or verbal skills at a top 10 1 in 10,000 Then they looked at the same individuals 20 years later see how they did in life focusing on occupations And it turned out their lives were awful because they were total nerds And then I write no, I'm just kidding. You get to do it only once in a book before people hate you But no, I actually tend to do pretty well in life They were scientists journalists politicians leaders in societies other studies looking at people in the top 1% of mathematical reasoning And you might think mathematical reasoning. Well, that's you know, this is math who cares But they were overrepresented and and just all the good things all the good jobs you want They wrote more books. They they they had higher positions and so on So there seems to be a positivity of intelligence now the reason for the positivity is unclear Let me just give a short riff on this because I'm always interested in me I feel because I think people often get it wrong Well, you might be tempted to think is that your intelligence basically you make you smarter and smarter people Thrive in some objective sense in the world. It's just better to be smart when dealing in the world And I think that's true to some extent But I also think and this is a point brought up by people like freddy the boar and page harden that to some extent We have created a world where intelligence is highly valued Um to get into the best schools in the united states, for instance, you have to do I mean, how would you create any kind of first world civilization and not highly value Intelligence, I think this is a really weak point to extremely well in academic test testing on satis later on LSATs and everything and these are in some way IQ tests And once people end up in you know in Princeton or harvard law or whatever their lives are very good The world rewards their their graduation from these places But and then psychologists come and say look IQs correlated positive lifetimes amazing amazing, but we set it up that way I mean again, not entirely. I think even if we I think being smart in some unspecified way Would would be good no matter what but so much of it is is the result of a world in which this was this was priced Is exceptional price I think that's a really good point and one that I really never think about But of course that has to be true. I mean we deal in admissions Would I rather have a show on youtube or on fox it would depend on the resources behind the show And is there more freedom to speak on fox news than youtube? Not much of a difference so If they were considerable resources behind the I guess I'd Like a show on rumble right with resources We admit students and you you try your best to admit on the basis of a whole bunch of criteria But we can't lie and say that this that intelligence isn't one one dimension that we're trying to assess when we're picking Who's going to be a phd student with us? And we I have the lay theory that that's because they will be better students But I am also feeding into this very mechanism. We're causing these outcomes. Yeah, it's like I See an example on the fly it would be as if we found that height is tremendously correlated with athletic skills And only athletic sport we we had was basketball. Yeah It's simply an enormous correlation height in that but if we had if we had other sports the correlation would would drop We can talk about heredity and where do you things come from in a bit? But but the logic extends deeper than that. Suppose you find that that there's a real genetic influence on on say So there's a conversation about resources going on in the chat Uh, perhaps the most valuable resource you can have is solid genuine self-esteem Right genuinely liking yourself respecting yourself That's a huge resource For many people having genuine self-esteem would be worth More to them than having thousands of dollars in the bank because if you genuinely like yourself You will be attracted to people who are good for you and you'll flee from people who are bad for you And so you will make much better choices around people. So perhaps the most valuable resource you can have is having an accurately positive Your relationship with yourself and then Next most valuable resources having good relationship with your family extended family Friends and community right you want to survive an earthquake you want to survive inflation you want to survive unemployment Right, you want to survive tragedy and conflict the best thing you can do is have resources Such as family friends community with whom you're on good terms and then yeah money That helps too Getting a phd or getting are getting a great job The genetic influence might work that it wires up the genes wire your brain to be really smart and capable and that's how I didn't consistently start liking myself until 2016 when I began Putting into action like took you know multiple jobs And started driving down my credit card debt and started building a life that was working from You know some days I'd get up at 2 a.m. 3 a.m. You know get to work early Work until 9 p.m Driving down my credit card debt I connected to 12-step programs that were working for me And my whole life just started working my whole life really started taking off in 2016 so since Since january of 2016 I've consistently liked myself Works but it doesn't have to work that way in any society in this place all societies where there's some other biases The genes could instead code in ways that favor the biases so suppose Suppose being good-looking helps you get a good job and helps you get into a good school under probably enormous bias In favor of good-looking then the genes will have an effect on us because genes have some effect on how good looking you are Suppose skin color plays a role in your fate and life also true everywhere on earth Then your genes will have an effect a correlation on your fate and life because genes control skin color This isn't just sort of being picky. It's worth appreciating that that genetic influence on So I was just watching uh, richard spencer on Ethan rouse show and he was drinking beer Well, he was on a show so consuming alcohol while you're on a live stream Is absolutely an adaptive behavior for some people But I think it's a really bad choice for others such as uh, richard spencer I mean Me and flintas and all that stuff um What's your lay of the land on that if you want to weigh in on that, um, uh, I feel like I've just looked I feel like I can look at flintas objectively in a way because I don't have anything at stake with him um You know back in 2017 it was kind of like flintas versus spencer and in a very major way There are other factors evolved, but I I think you know the optics war and all you know What about what do we think about charlotte'sville, etc? I think a lot of that is water under the bridge and and I can just look at him objectively I don't have anything at stake with him. So I don't vehemently hate him I don't want to join his movement and I feel like I can criticize him objectively and and accurately he came on to the scene As this conservative kid who I think was getting some traction among conservatives And he wanted he was obviously pro trump at some you know, he still is now But he was very pro trump at some point even though he had been anti trump I think when he was in high school or some crazy thing like that um And he wanted to move the alt right away from being the alt right that is And a great comment in the chat from john berkshire leaving the alt right was the best thing richard and nanny ever did Compare his career to that of richard spencer nanny his friends with important politicians billionaires and other high IQ right wingers kind of says richard spencer doesn't do the work I guess he doesn't have to not his fault Richard is blessed with leisure. He seems to enjoy being at home with the kids Richard spencer is about the worst wikipedia page imaginable and he tries to rebrand himself as a biden loving nato supporting liberal But to no avail Richard will always be seen as a disgusting near nazi no matter what he does Kind of says I need more richard and chuck johnson spaces Richard and nanny has a career come on bro. He's 100 astra And the chat demands a pillator is away from being an alternative right and being a kind of hyper conservative You know hard, right? We love trump. We take no prisoners kind of thing and I think he successfully did that I mean he successfully won that war and I think he in a weird way successfully won the griper war in the sense that You know tpusa charlie kerrk marjorie taylor green. We're kind of stealing his talking points I guess as we learned today literally hiring grippers and Basically just they they didn't there was no more division between the grippers and mainstream conservatives because the conservatives took it all on They're anti-vaccine. They're Stopped the steel their trump is our jesus etc etc And so he in a way won all of those battles even as he got increasingly pushed out now I noticed this in 2020. I noticed this before then I certainly noticed this now. There were these really bad characters Okay, and then his voice starts rebiting something awful a little bit more here from paul bloom talking with david bizarro about acu An accomplishment even accomplishment value Maybe mediated maybe may do its work through something else society has and maybe something society shouldn't have I already know some listeners are going to say well, you've been talking about acu and intelligence as if they are the same thing And there are a lot of people who are suspicious of acu tests And so equating intelligence with acu is maybe for some people something that has to be defended Yeah, and I think I actually that's a fair enough objection There are different things intelligence is sort of a hypothesized notion of sort of a general reasoning ability reason plan Learn from experience be adapt to novel circumstances and an IQ test is a test Is a test of that that people have thought up So kind of for instance, you could be incredibly intelligent But if you can't read the words on acu tests because you don't know language and no one's offered you a translation Or you come from another culture or you're visually impaired no one no one offers to give you any help to it You'll do terrible on acu tests even though you're going to be very smart So I think what you could say is the fact that acu test seems to have various Predictive power. I think I think in general somebody who scores 140 is going to just be a better reasoner than someone who scores 100 Suggests that there's some correlation But you absolutely cannot conflate intelligence with with the test to assess intelligence any more than you should You should reduce personality to the test we use to assess personality And this is why particularly I think we should be very skeptical about studies that apply acu tests Often created for use in the united states And then applied them to other countries because there's all sorts of reasons when you sort of diverge from the situation Where people are sort of most have the test most crafted and where these tests start to go Arrive maybe even something as simple as there's a certain thing called test taking skill Which which you get in school and you probably if you dropped an intelligence test for people who had no formal education No, matter how smart they are they're gonna bomb it because they just don't know how to take tests Yeah, I mean anxiety can do that to many states, for instance. That's right. Should we talk about g? Yeah, I think so so an acu test is attempting to Find the underlying dimension of intelligence, right? So the attempt is to say what can we measure that will tell us whether or not somebody's intelligent or not And over the years people have developed a whole bunch of different kinds of tasks And if you take an acu test or if you've taken one You'll realize that you're getting a bunch of different kinds of questions Some of them may involve reaction time. Some of them may involve memory Some are just about verbal ability or ability to to recognize to know words some are just mathematical ability or your Ability to do calculations in your head. So the question might be well if an acu test has say five components Who's to say that you just haven't measured five things How can you lump all of these together an analogy? I like to think about is an athletic analogy That's a great one And this is this is when it's not original to me But I put in a book which is you know It could be that these five things were totally separate in which case to be totally unrelated Certainly some things are are highly separate if you if you you tell So once my perfect dream life Right, who would I be? What would I do? It would be pretty similar to the life I have now Except I would dream that I would have a family you know wife and kids And that I would have More time to pursue my intellectual passions So I would like to do more thoughtful more prepped shows I'd love to have say a producer to work with on the shows and co-host a panel of people to do shows with And to have more time that I could devote to my my shows to my writing to my my reading Otherwise, you know pretty happy with that with the life I have Tested I don't know tested people on on how far they could jump and when they roll a dice So they get a heads or tails it's totally different the components of an intelligence has seemed to be connected Similar to the components of athletic test So imagine you brought in people and you had a bunch of that yet how fast can you run a mile? How much can you bench press? How flexible are you? No, no different things now Clearly some people are going to do better than others on this So you'll have somebody who's just this weightlifter who could bench press an enormous amount But not so flexible. You could have this person who is who is Incredibly fast runner, but doesn't have much upper body strength. You get a difference. You get different scores Everybody will have a different profile But you'll also notice something else Which is there are some people in general who are pretty physically fit A young man or woman 20 years old who does sports at school But I do pretty well all of these a 90 year old Sickly with various conditions. We'll probably do poorly on all of these And so in addition to the separate scores, you can have a sort of score Which is how much overall do you do what we call that for intelligence g I think you say this in the book. You didn't have to turn out this way. That's right They're all pretty highly correlated with each other Yeah, riccardo says my dream life has luc duvet and I moving into the playboy mansion and reclaiming its former glory as a podcast studio I Really didn't have to turn out that way But that it did is I think a good piece of evidence that we're capturing something general and there's the g is for general Mean something now why it could be that your g your overall score is capturing Okay, a smart comment in the the chat richard hananya is an unsufferable narcissist. I I agree that's that just Doesn't just drip off him. It just you know pours out of him But why is he an insufferable narcissist? Obviously, he's not neuro normal. And so He I'm sure he didn't have an easy life instead of compensate for his social feelings He's developed this rich, you know fantasy life where he's a hero. I Identify with that. I mean, it's something that You know probably happened to me a great deal I would retreat into fantasy because fantasy would numb my pain and I'd immediately feel better So I think richard hananya like myself like rigid Spencer We've lived a great deal of our life, you know fantasizing about how amazing and heroic and brave and strong and wise and far seeing we are and The the narcissism is a compensation device for An inability to relate to other people normally I would like to think that I've grown and developed on my abilities to relate to people in a little bit more normal fashion Something basic about Mental capacities. It could be just like a processor. This is capturing like just how powerful your brain is It could be that the tasks that are being measured have some Serious overlap in the domains of some of them might be about memory plus arithmetic and some of them are about arithmetic plus Processing speed and and so so on so you're getting overlapping measurement of certain domains I think it's up for debate But I don't think that there is a lack of evidence that there is a reasonable way in which we can say this is capturing Some some broad dimension Yeah, I think so and I think you're right in saying not only is it sort of logically possible These components could have been separate. A lot of people think they are separate like And also what kind of life do I want? I mean I have an ego Shocking, you know, stop the presses breaking news. I have an ego I would like to be More successful than I am. I would like to have higher status than I do I would like to be more accomplished than I am I would like to be producing, you know more substantial bodies of work writing books videos movies TV film scripts, etc Yeah, I've I've got you know selfish egoistic concerns But I know if I just follow my own promptings, I'm going to get into trouble So I would also like to be more helpful than I am to make more of a contribution to the community around me I'd like to be more of a blessing to other people in my life Because I know that that's simply A path in life that makes me happier and more effective and is more likely to keep me out of the vegemite And keep me dinky-dye, fair dinkum and true blue There's a cliche and I for all I know I once probably believed that which is you have something who's very brainy at math They're not gonna have a capillary Yeah, they'd have this big their math specialist and they don't read and so on they'll be worse than average in In reading and it's just not true. But we have this conservation view We have it more generally you see somebody who's who's good-looking and and a jock and you think You think there's some sort of cosmic justice well, so generally speaking, all right, I find that intelligence More often than not goes along with fairly even and attractive physiognomy Right, it does seem like intelligence goes along with all sorts of other gifts not always They're not going to be so smart frustratingly for for some of us people who are good-looking and strong and good at math are also Good at poetry on average and also, you know show other abilities Well, sadly, if you're bad at just about every if you're bad at five of six things The odds are not that for the sixth thing you're gonna be skyrocketingly good I think if it's six thing, you won't be so good either And you know, we think of all sorts of reasons for that some some psychological some social Which is if you have a lot of gifts, maybe you're in an environment that nourishes all of your gifts in a way Much more than somebody who has fewer gifts There is a difference at least one that intelligence researchers like to point out So you can divide intelligence into what they refer to as fluid intelligence and crystallized intelligence I've always thought maybe this is just a way of making aging people feel a bit better about themselves So fluid intelligence means the raw processing power that stuff unfortunately starts going down with age Yeah, I mean there's distinctively a difference between the raw processing power of a 21 year old compared to an 18 year old Right. Here's just a little bit more from this podcast on Parents how much do they influence how much do they shape their children being athletic a whole cluster of those things converge to make you good at college basketball And again from the examples of say eye color or skin color or attractiveness a cluster of genes that correlate make heritable Some sort of intellectual attainment like graduating graduating from college doesn't have to affect your brain at all It could work through other routes So there's a big surprise in behavioral genetics. This is this is maybe the most surprising thing I say to my intro psych class and some days I don't believe it myself But there's enough evidence for it The surprise isn't that so much of our mental life our mental differences are controlled by the gene say Corally 50 percent or whatever the surprise is where the other 50 percent comes from So a lot of people think okay, how how intelligent I am how introverted extra how happy I am I'm a big big chunk of that's determined by my genes say 50 percent the other 50 percent I must get from my mom and dad how they raise me and it turns out evidence suggests that's not true The evidence suggests that the other 50 percent the environment the stuff that's not genetic doesn't really come from the household There's a lot of evidence that how you're raised Within people who are not coming from severe poverty or severe abuse doesn't have that much of a role on your IQ Or your personality to put it differently parents matter an enormous amount Parents matter because they typically provide the genes that that make you use a sense of sense Parents matter because how they raise you plays a huge role on how all of those years more than a decade of childhood How that works out how happy you are but parents in terms of how they parent you doesn't seem to have a big effect On whether you're open to new experience agreeable neurotic and so on so this raises a Yeah, that's uh seems to be True and important Right, you're probably wondering what the heck is going on in uh in Canada. I'm literally shaking right now I was just getting groceries and I live in san francisco and I never really feel fully safe If you live in san francisco, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about and I just got groceries I'm walking out of the store and this guy is walking past me And says move you stupid bitch and he spits in my face Spits all over my face And then I say excuse me. Did you just spit in my face and he says move or I'll rape you There's also people everywhere and everyone's just walking by because they're like I can't handle Something else in san francisco. It's always something else. I don't even know why I'm posting this if you live in san francisco Do you feel this way all the time? I don't feel safe ever. I literally never feel safe It's better when it's daylight, but nighttime. No not leaving my house Oh, I wonder who would act that way. I'm literally shaking right now Not canada. Sorry san francisco seems so similar to canada All right, this is uh, japanese people thanking america for nuking them saying the bombing was probably necessary to So it's really cool question if it's not your genes and it's not how you were parented that makes you different What is what's the missing piece of the environment and um, nobody knows Some people think it's your peer group that that causes your personality to change in some way Some people think it's just your random events that happen in people's lives You know, you you fall in love you get you get sick right before an exam You win a lottery you get hit by a car and that displays a role and um, I just find this a really neat question But I don't have much to say about it. So let's get back to parenting. What do you think? Do you buy this claim that? Parents don't matter I think that it is such a natural thought as a parent that all of your behaviors are going to Determine the psychology of your child like am I exposing my daughter to books or classical music? Am I feeding her brain in the right way and maybe maybe we as americans This gets back to the question that we talked about in development that parents in the united states often want to play This very important role in maximizing how good their kids are at all sorts of things It's a tough pill to swallow though. Yeah, it is it is and there's there's so many forces that kind of push us away from it First thing, of course Okay You're probably wondering what the heck is going on with Justin Trudeau Sure, what would you like your government's legacy on lgbt issues to be? of to get it to a point when We have an lgbt Prime minister and nobody notices Looking into the future, what would you like your government's legacy on lgbt issues to be? And what's going on at the white house? Agreement that it is incorrect to say the 2020 election was stolen. What about 2016 election? look I'm not gonna go back into history It was a stolen election. It was stolen stolen. He's an illegitimate president. He's an illegitimate president You know pretending to be president Why do you think the president is going to such great lengths to essentially prove that he beat you because he didn't One third of clinton supporters say trump election is not legitimate. I don't think he's an illegitimate president That didn't really win you are absolutely right. You can run the best campaign You can even become the nominee and you can have the election stolen from you The 2016 election was stolen got a nicer way to say that say russia hacks the election russia hacked our election russia hacked our elections a little louder, please russia hacked our election That was a 9-11 scale event. This was a kind of cyber 9-11 Yes russia hacked our election russia, you know first hacked our election here Half of clinton's voters believe the conspiracy theory that russia hacked election day votes We know that they were into voting roles actual interference with the elections themselves. 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He's an illegitimate president in my mind Experts urge Clinton camp to challenge election results. We will see how illegitimate his victory actually was He's an illegitimate president Russia hacked our election Russians hacking our election Russia hacking our election I don't see this president. He's like as illegitimate president Trump is an illegitimate president who stole the election He is not a president. He's illegitimate and my biggest fear is that he's going to do it again with the help of Vlad His best past terrified. Would you be my vice president? Hillary Clinton voters called to overturn election results more than four million people have already signed a petition on change Dot or calling for the electors of the Electoral College to quote ignore their states votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton from then actually win the election in 2016. We are the victims of a bloodless coup He didn't won the general election. Yo Electoral College make Hillary Clinton president period Donald Trump is an illegitimate president Them's don't accept Trump as a legitimate president. This wasn't on the level. This election was not on the level I don't think he's a legitimate president He got his victory from cheating. Yes, Trump cheated Trump cheated the 2016 election He's an illegitimate president. No validity. No credibility Because of that anger at what some see as an illegitimate president It will not be a peaceful change of power a number of incidents turned violent protesters hurl trash cans Slash bombs and objects at police several officers injured protesters new rocks and smashed windows leading to more Confrontations injuries and arrest the chaotic scene just blocks outside the security area of the inauguration denying election results is extreme now Yeah, so let's let's be really clear that comparison that you made is just ridiculous Protests against Donald Trump's election victory surged overnight and some Okay, I'm became violent violence erupted on the streets of Portland during the second straight day protests Over the election of Donald Trump some protesters launched fireworks and other projectiles at police several people began vandalizing cars Some demonstrators smashed or windows protesters faced off with police in other cities too including Oakland Denver and Minneapolis Violent protests continuing now for the third day in a row some 4,000 angry demonstrators over Trump's election victory taking to the streets officers in front of thousands of protesters in what police called a riot Setting fires taking their frustrations out on cars and buildings People through projectiles at officers and damaged property as well One woman driving through was attacked as someone used a bat to smash her windshield They are undermining our democratic process everything that we stand for So Okay, that's it. 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