 My name is Gabriel Persley. I'm here this morning with Dr. Misec Cagunda, who's from Scotland's rural college. Welcome Misec. Thank you. Thank you very much. So Misec, you're a scientist from Africa, now working in Scotland. That's right. Sounds an interesting story. How did that happen? I worked at the University of Malawi after finishing my PhD, which I did in Germany. And after some time, I actually thought I needed to do a post-doc. In that case, I moved to Denmark. And after staying four years in Denmark, then I moved to Scotland. And I've been in Scotland now for the past ten years. Tell me a little bit more about the scientific connections between Scotland and Malawi. The scientific connections go back to different organisations, really. For example, University of Edinburgh has links with University of Malawi. SRISC has links with previously what Bunda College, which was part of University of Malawi, and now is a university in its own right. So there are different educational and research institutions that have relationships, different relationships with Malawi institutions as well. Now there's a new initiative starting with the Centre for Tropical Livestock Genetics and Health, which is a partnership between the Rolston Institute of the Universe, to Edinburgh, Scotland's Royal College and Ilwe. And we're actually having some initial discussions on joint programmes. Will you be involved in the new centre? Yes, I will be involved in the new centre. Apparently when, about eight years ago when we started Projects in Malawi, I was one of the people who were given the task to link SRISC's work in Africa, in Sub-Saharan Africa, not just Malawi. So when eventually we had Professor Andrew Peters coming as Professor for International Agriculture, I was actually very happy that he also emphasised the links in Sub-Saharan Africa. So yes, I'll be very much involved in the centre. That's excellent. And I understand also you're engaged with the new African Theory-Tranetic Gains programme, which is supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Can you tell me a little about that programme? Yes. My involvement in that programme actually expands some of the work we were doing in Malawi, which is developing methods of capturing data from small-holder farmers into a central system that gives feedback to the farmers on how they are performing. And my involvement there will be expanding that work together with colleagues in Aerry and a private company in Kenya to do even more work in Ethiopia and Tanzania. I think both of those countries are very important whether the dairy industry is expanding. So I think it will be great that you're coming back to Africa and you'll be a very wise guide to the new generation of Scottish scientists coming to Africa. Thank you very much for joining us.