 15th regular meeting in the Common Council to order Sue would you call the roll please Bowman Berg Bonnet Serta Graf Mani Montemayor Perez Peterson excuse Rindflash excuse Segali Stefan Van Akron Vanderwheel Warner 13 present forms present Alderman Warner. Thank you, Your Honor. I move the minutes of the last Common Council meeting be approved and that the same stand has entered on a record Moving to the second half minutes of the past penalty meeting stand approved under discussion Hearing none all in favor Pledge allegiance Alderman Graf Alderman Graf, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. The first is from Alderman Wangeman to the mayor advising that He's resigning his position from the Common Council. That can be accepted and placed on file And if this council wishes to this evening, we will start taking names for his position immediately Go out for two weeks and then once the names are you could send up the suit the city clerk Send your names. There was a maze to sue And then his council can decide will be our next Alderman for that position Okay, we can accept and file this It's an email from Jane Wong-Coutser Advising that she's resigning from the mayor's international committee And on appointments hereby submit the following appointment for your consideration Edward Surrick to be reappointed as director of human resources and labor relations term to expire October 21 2009 signed by the mayor I would ask for a suspension on that Is there any objections to suspension? I move that this mention be I mean the prove the Second at the appointment be approved under discussion Hearing none all in favor. Hi pose motion carried Congratulations that and Following appointments to the business improvement district these came in that the prior at the last meeting Jane What Davis would be considered for the unexpired term of James Hansen whose term expired 9 16 0 5 and Reappoint Robert Hury Alan Rudnick Greg Weigelman and Richard Grinke for three-year terms to expire 9 14 0 7 signed by the mayor And those can be confirmed All the men I move to prove the mayor's appointments Is there any discussion? Hearing none all in favor Okay, Dan for house for hassled I'm sorry Sorry, Dan Dan I need your home address, please seven zero five fairway drive fairway Correct Okay, and you will have five minutes. Thank you very much. I'd like to thank all the alderman the mayor Clerk and and the attorney for a time this evening for my five minutes I'm here this evening to speak on behalf of an old friend. She's friend of many children in the city She's very very old and she knows she boy again since his birth this friend is Sheridan Park I'm also here to speak in behalf of citizens of Sheboygan I Would specifically like the attention of those eight alderman who did oppose the rescind vote on Sheridan vote back on August 16th But I'm here tonight for three reasons Number one. I'd like to ask or announce the successful completion of our safe Sheridan Park petition We have collected the necessary signatures Number two ask you to acknowledge the citizens view of Sheboygan and number three to ask you to change your position in favor of preserving Sheridan Or let the citizens of Sheboygan vote this out in February Regarding the petition This was an outstanding success by the friends of Sheboygan's parks Approximately a hundred people of various ethnic age and socio-economic backgrounds that were involved in this group This is a very good grassroots organization that came together in very short time Approximately 3700 people were approached in the city of Sheboygan and of those people 3300 signatures were collected in favor of preserving Sheridan Park For those of you wanting to do the math That's about an 89 percent success rate and that was my experience as well as I was out there collecting hundreds of signatures myself Of those 33 and remember this number of those 3300 favorable responses 300 were considered not random because I'm going to talk about Some numbers a little bit further on here. They're not random meaning They were picked up at picnic events park events where people are invited So we were selecting people who specifically wanted to come inside the petition Whereas the the other 90 some percent were actually collected door-to-door. So they were totally random random surveyed people We worked very closely with the state elections board over the last 60 days to make sure that everything was legit and everything was accurate We made sure that all the rules were circulated to every person carrying a petition out there There was nothing more important to me than make sure that this thing was a hundred percent legitimate I didn't want any funny business involved So that's it regarding the petition before I move on I'd also like to mention regarding the petition We are going to be holding a press conference at City Hall on Wednesday morning at 10 a.m And then invite everybody in this room to be there as well And that is when we'll be officially Officially bringing the petition signatures in point number two Let's not ignore the people a subtitle to all their person. I think should be representative. I'm sure you all agree But let's talk about representation a little bit over the last afternoon here I consulted with a math professor at UW-Shabuigan and I was talking to him about my numbers that I had But those favorable and those that we approached and we did the formula on it using statistical analysis in Correlation by taking out those 300 random that I talked about those who came to us and Those who we actually approached and we can say with 95% accuracy that 86 to 90% Of the registered voters in Shabuigan supported our cause If you follow that we're basically taking that and applying it to the 36,000 registered voters in the city of Shabuigan So that would mean approximately 86 to 90% would mean 30,960 up to 32,400 voters would actually support our cause if you follow that math That analysis Vocal yes, minority no odds are pretty good that some of those are in your ward as well Some of them are very prominent people some of them voted you into office and some of them might vote you out Point number three some of you went on record supporting a referendum or public input, and I think this is great I really do I think that's how it should work I'm seeing that we went to the work to get these 3000 signatures by granting this referendum You might lose a little time, but you're going to gain two things Besides potential validation of your position you're going to get respect from the people in your wards And you can have a more healthy democracy here in the city of Shabuigan in conclusion I think we can work this out Between our group and the city the city council here We have many more options that we could consider how would we would rather work with the city council than fight them For the next six months I personally like the idea of working with the county and sharing services because I think sharing services has proven in the business culture to save a lot of money But ultimately I just want to save Sheridan Park So on behalf of the projected 32,000 supporters in Shabuigan and my old friend Sheridan Park I respectfully request a change in your vote or a citywide referendum on this issue Thank you. Thank you very Larry Rupp Larry would you please get up to the mic and I need your home address, sir. Okay 828 Northwater Street Yes, and you will have five minutes and it begins. Thank you I have a few observations that I would like to share with the member of the common council with regard to Sheridan Park I have carefully read and reread the your police department and City Hall site analysis study There were five sites presented To the site assessment team and they picked Sheridan Park However, I was puzzled as to why the mayor's top choice to 23rd Street site was not included in the list presented to the assessment team It seems an odd omission I Found one comment from the site analysis study, especially interesting. I quote an Empty Park, which does not have public facilities Would question whether the neighbors in this area would approve or reject the building of a police facility on this land In grading this aspect the team assumed it would not be popular That's unquote Our petition canvassing has proven that prediction correct Many many people stated how appalled they were at the thought of losing Sheridan Park as they signed our petition The study did take did contain one parent error Sheridan Park is not empty. It is used by the by the neighboring people and it contains a basketball court in first-class condition and play facilities for children Usage I predict would go up if picnic tables could be installed there in the summer months for one on all to use Trees and green space are things we hold in trust for our children and grandchildren When we are no longer here all we are basic and and Sheridan Park is an integral part of that trust All we are asking is that the people of the city of Sheboygan Be allowed to decide the fate of Sheridan Park because it is our legacy to the future Please place this issue on the ballot. That is all we ask Thank you for listening to my plea for Sheridan Park Vicki Meyer Vicki could you give me your address again, please? It's 3107 North 26th Street, and you have five minutes Council mayor, thank you for allowing me to speak again on this issue I'm gonna kind of say some of the same things that you've just heard But I do believe that when the vote was taken to take Sheridan Park as a police station The council was not informed of all the facts But since then we have done our best to give that information needed to make an informed decision We know the 23rd Street site was not on the Kimmy and Associates evaluation We've been told how detrimental it will be to the neighborhood professor Byron explained this to us There will not be any cost savings to the taxpayers Vicki Hall explained this Sunday in Sunday's newspaper The people of Sheboygan from city experts to small children have said no to the destruction of Sheridan Park And if it is destroyed, I do believe this is going to be setting a very very dangerous precedence in our city So you can change this if you place this issue on the ballot then you can hear directly from the voters what they want Thank you Carl table Carl, can I get your home address, please sure 24 or 2 North 25th, and you will have five minutes. Thank you Your honor mr. Mayor members of the city council and fellow citizens of the great city of Sheboygan The last time I addressed this council was September 16th 2003 my topics that evening were the three C's Compliments concerns and cuts. I returned this evening with an update and with some further suggestions First of all mr. Mayor I'm very happy to see you and also to see that you have good health may God continue to bless you with that Congratulations to the new city clerk and a special. Thank you to bill wongerman for his service as a council member and Also his wonderful writing of the history of the city of Sheboygan and to Alderman van der Veel It would be nice if the city could hire you to do the city do a city newsletter Which would really be a wonderful feature for Sheboygan you do an outstanding job of promoting our community with your articles and To blue harbour I would like to compliment the blue harbour organization For paying a page in the Sheboygan press with the people whom they hired The local people from our city and also from the surrounding areas a few concerns Recently the Sheboygan press had a banner headline that we are losing population This is a major concern major concern for our city for our schools for our businesses How many employees do we have in this fine city and how many live in the city? Another topic of concern last year the storm water fee was adopted or we can call it the storm water tax But you need to show the public council members that by adding that you are going to reduce the budget Appropriately and why not call it a tax and put it on the tax bill rather than the water bill that the citizens can deduct it from their tax bill Another concern why are we still paying rent for the city attorney and the planning office? Regarding saving Sheridan Park, I had the privilege to be in New York City in August and I got to Central Park at least twice What came to my mind? Here in Sheboygan, we're going to take green space away Mr. Alderman and Mrs. Alderman, please save Sheridan Park I want to thank one of my alderman Bill Stefan for his vote on the second vote as far as the Reconsideration to keep Sheridan Park another idea regarding the police department to our fine officers who Serve our city and who do not know what they're going to come about you deserve a new building I have always been an advocate for that building someplace downtown for the reason that I see Constantly our fine officers walking between City Hall and the courthouse And I don't want them on the road going back and forth from another distant location so please keep that in mind and then recently our governor has made a big issue of cutting state vehicles Mr. Mayor, I would like you to Take a look at how many vehicles our city owns How many we could possibly cut and do any of those vehicles leave our city at night a few ideas I Had the privilege to serve with many of you find people on this council But I do feel that you can continue to make it more viewer-friendly For our public watching and they do watch and they enjoy it. It's their city and their government Explain the procedures more often and I'm going to ask Alderman Warner to reintroduce a measure That you members of the council will individually Bring in the citizen concerns rather than the letter just goes to the city clerk cold and then sent to a committee the public wants to hear that their issue was brought forth by their elected owner and Please have more slots for public input when I call the city hall this afternoon to clerk's office Well, they're only five slots these people the tax-paying people should want to be able to speak open it up And if your meetings go late This is our city and our government Regarding the 2005 budget It's a weighty matter But I have dealt with 35 years of school budgets six years of city budgets and Please don't use fear tactics like we're going to cut police officers or we're not going to pick up the leaves No, we need to make big decisions and you are the elected people a Year ago. I suggested these and I come back Cut at least one position in the following offices in the office of mayor city attorney Finance purchasing information systems and human resources Could I have the credit say to finish I have about a minute You'd have to get a book excuse me Carl The council would have to take about five minutes five minutes So we really have to stay with that unless the council wishes to open the floor, but Is there any discussion? We have motion before us a second not all in favor Oh Continue thank you, and I would also hope that that extension that courtesy would be extended to all of our citizens Not just me tonight As far as cutting one position in those respective offices I urge you to merge the planning department into public works and take Peter Fullerton's position from Planning and move it into public works. I know that Tom Houlton works day and night and has done most of the leg work Whether it be Blue Harbor or our many many street projects in the city and I also would like you to investigate the merger of Cities purchasing department with Sheboygan County and with our school system These permanent cuts Will be a savings of at last at least a half million dollars. We're not touching officers We're not touching leaf pickup and so forth. I humbly suggest these I love Sheboygan and you have big decisions to make And you have to make big decisions. Thank you for your service to city of Sheboygan. Thank you for the courtesy extended to me Thomas Gessler Thomas, could you give me your home address, please 1711 South 12th Street, and You will have five minutes. Thank you I have a couple of comments that I would like to make in regards to our tax increase coming up I believe that these The city Sheboygan here should look into money is due to the city Such as outstanding fines. There's a landlord in town here that owes a city a million dollars I think it's time to start collecting that There's developers in the area. They come into the area. They borrow money. I Could name some but I won't they seem to borrow money and then they put the money right in the weasel sack and they leave town They have no no regrets. They take the money and they run and they never paid a city back I think it's time to city really take a hard look at these people that owe the city money and Collect some of this money and I do not believe they should cut the police officers at all Because to me that's just inviting the criminals to this city and we have enough of them here right now. Thank you Thank you Okay, next thing we have all the person's all the person's to golly statement all the person's to golly. You would like to speak Thank you your honor On April 6th when I was elected into office. It was one of my proudest moments probably unbeknownst most of you council people On April 20th when I took the oath of office. I swear to uphold the standards so directed the office I was to hold After approximately six months on the council I feel now the need to say that as a council we need to act more professionally and to respect each other We are an organization where we come from different walks of life and different ethnic backgrounds We agree to disagree but at the same time we need to respect each other in the process of doing so Rude and snide remarks made by all the persons against all the persons should be unacceptable behavior in these council chambers We are looking like immature adults who are resorting to comments They're unbefitting the officers offices that we hold our sole purpose on this council Is to work for the betterment of our community and for the people we serve and who work and live in this community So I am now asking you your honor to please as a leader of this council in our community That when such matters should arise in the future that you put a stop to them immediately and if necessary Discipline the offender or the offenders Thank you for your time. Thank you Michael Michael you got to present that award we have a award from Sydney Mike would like to Show you before we get into the consent agenda so Mike You may recall that Last year about this time. I had told you that first of all cities and villages mutual insurance company Is our insurance company for liability purposes and for employee safety? I Believe there's over 40 43 48 communities that are members of that Each year there's a program They authorize a program for new safety or liability programs To be introduced They evaluate them and the top five programs new programs that are presented are given a Certificate and a cash award up to a thousand dollars for usage For safety materials last year. We were fortunate enough to win win two programs which Hadn't occurred before one Bob Steve had written and one I had written this year programs were submitted again and To be honest, I didn't think our chances were were very good simply because we had won two last year Well, we were selected again The I have the certificate here and the program was written by Frank Calco on a coordinated hand signal safety program to be used in public works and Park departments and this is being adopted at many communities Throughout the state to have a coordinated approach to that. So I just wanted to make the council aware of that award and another Cash receipt I believe of up to a thousand dollars for use in safety equipment from Sydney. Thank you, Mike Thank you, your honor move that all our owes be accepted and placed on file or cease be accepted and adopted And all resolutions substitute resolutions and ordinances be passed Move to second at all our old the accepted my file all our C's be accepted and adopted resolutions and Resolutions be put upon their passage under discussion in that 13-1 through 13 21 Hearing none. Would you call the roll, please? Bowman Berg Bonet Serta Graf Manny Montemayor Perez Segali Steppen Van Akron Vanderweel and Warner. Hi 13 eyes motion to carry 1322 through 1325 to be referred 1326 will hold for 1235 and 1327 through 1335 to be referred Along with 1334 and 35 comes my budget documents, and they will go to finance, but before they go I'd like to Plane the budget where it's at today Included in your budget documents this evening our agenda item 1334 and 1335 which detail my budget recommendations for the 2005 city budget Attached to the main document is a brief summary of the budget recommendations. I worked within the appropriation and the levy directives this council established and have remained under the expenditure restraint limits Established by the state in developing this budget as Actions taken previously were part of the budget process Tonight is another step towards reaching consensus on budget priorities for 2005 and Deliberations will now occur at the committee levels As all of you are aware to comply with the council directives and be within the state expenditure restraint limit It was necessary to reduce requests for general fund resources by $3.4 million Reductions of this magnitude Necessitated a team approach and suggestions were given excuse me for were taken from the public our department heads and city employees For their input and assistance in identifying costs to saving opportunities. I Would especially like to thank our department heads for their long hours of work Reviewing individual budget lines and for the difficult choices that had to be made There are three individuals who I like to single out for their assistance in this budget process And who have worked tirelessly tirelessly the past few years in order to control our city budgets and spending I? Command Nancy bus for her detailed work in both Preliminary and final budget Preparations our department heads rely on her to provide them with the accurate wage and benefit projections With employee wage and benefit expenditure is accounting for 85 Repeat 85 percent of our budget the importance of her work cannot be overstated Secondly, I commend rich Gephardt for his continual updates on our budget process funding sources and recommendations on funding levels his knowledge of the state shared revenue process and an area of Transportation aids are invaluable to our budget resolutions Lastly, I'd like to commend Mike Hutz who for three decades has reviewed and challenged every budgetary expenditure with our department heads in Order to identify potential savings He has consistently used his experience to save a buck or many thought none existed His understanding of our entire city operations and the work done within each department will be difficult to replace in this coming year Throughout this budget process. I heard one theme over and over again from our residents Do not cut city services? And I repeat do not cut city services Having a first-rate police department Professional and prompt responses from our fire department our garbage routinely collected Our streets plowed and clean our parks maintained our library available as a resource and Our city departments available for information and assistance is what separates us from other communities and makes our community the special place it is today These examples were often cited and repeated as priorities by many of as priorities by many of our residents That I have met during this budget process I am happy to report that despite the dire predictions of massive layoffs and service reductions The budget I present to you includes no layoffs and Maintains all vital city services It is important to note that no layoffs will occur in critical areas of public safety and emergency response As I challenge all of you last year as I challenged all of you last year I again do so this year for any additions made to this budget. I challenge you to find a corresponding reduction in expenditures With that I urge you to support your support that you will support the recommendations included in this document. Thank you Okay 1336 by Alderman Bonet Authorizing the city to engage the services of special outside counsel for common counsel and its law and licensing committee in a matter of hearing of soul saying Petroleum and authorizing payment for said services All the money. Thank you, Your Honor. I make a motion to ask for a suspension rules We have a motion before suspension. Is there any objections? Any objection? Proceed sir. Thank you, your honor make a motion to for resolution to be put upon this passage Moved in second to resolution be put upon this passage under discussion Hearing none, would you call the roll, please? Berg, Bonet, Serta, Graf, Manny, Montemayor, Perez, Segali, Steffen, Van Akron, Vanderweel, Warner, 12 ayes, 1 no Motion carried. Oh, I'm sorry. How about Dennis Bowman? I I did 12 ayes, 1 no, sorry Dennis 1337 and 38, will I over? 1339 to be referred 1340 to be referred 1341 by law and licensing recommending filing documents submitting various license application for a period ending June 30th 2005 in June 30th 2006 and that class B fermented beverage malt beverage license a class C wine license Applied for by Jose Hernandez be denied based upon the applicant's previous record of violations in the committee's Standards for issuing license Alderman Bonet. Thank you. I Make a motion to accept and adopt the report of committee We have a motion in the second before us need to ask if Jose Hernandez is present President well Reintroduce myself to the council. My name is Tony Rizimius. I'm the attorney who represents Jose Hernandez I'd ask that mr. Hernandez be allowed to say a few words to the council Yes My name will say it see Hernandez, Jr. I live at 330 forest photo bar in Sheboyan Falls Just wanted to see that committee can passed beer and liquor like beer and wine license Because this is not this bar not gonna be just for Mexican it's gonna be for all all kind of people in there We're not going to discriminate nobody to go in there or not. It's gonna be for everybody and I just said say that Sorry about last last time last Monday that we had the council meeting that I said about Encore address and all that I was thinking to rent there and out Talked to that landlord Yolanda Torres and he said it was taking already the house That's the house where it says. I was kind of used to live And now I'm staying with my ex-wife Till I can find a place where I can move to Sheboyan to be closer to the bar here to be to be in there, you know They care everything, you know Run everything normal and all that And I just see the committee can pass it today Because I've been wasting too much money already and but my fine is already paid paid up already and Let's see if we they can pass it I wish the council here can help me to pass the become be spending too much money already and See what happened here That's it. Thank you, sir And if I'd be allowed to say a few words, it's all mr. Mayor. Thank you again. My name is Tony Rusemias and I'd I'd like to Expand on and I guess clarify a few of the comments by mr. Hernandez As he mentioned he mentioned several times Wasting too much money what what he's trying to communicate to the council is that Mr. Hernandez and attempting to become a businessman here in the city of Sheboygan has signed a two-year lease to rent out a premises here to run a Tavern And he comes to you tonight to seek a beer and wine license in order to be able to run that tavern and become a businessman As you've heard from the Law and Licensing Committee has not recommended I should say a portion of the Law and Licensing Committee has not recommended that that license be granted Now mr. Hernandez has attempted to provide answers to the Law and Licensing Committee as to any questions they may have The committee has asked many legitimate questions And I'd like to just share with you briefly some of the answers provided and and some of those those questions that were asked The committee has had questions about previous ordinance a previous ordinance violation by mr. Hernandez about a year and a half ago Mr. Hernandez acknowledges that ordinance violation and More importantly has had as attempted to communicate to the committee that he wants to take steps To make sure that when he runs a tavern that nothing like that would occur and to learn from his mistakes In doing that he's attempted to engage the help of those familiar with security in taverns and has proposed and communicated to the committee That he post signs within the tavern clearly indicating that this is not a place for non-law abiding citizens He wants to station an employee at the door to check IDs As people come into the bar and he also just wants an opportunity to be able to work with law enforcement so that they can educate him and They can work together in order to run a law abiding establishment An additional question a legitimate question posed by the committee was why has mr. Hernandez not paid off the Citation which he had previously received The answer provided by mr. Hernandez Quite obviously is that as a result of this lease he's really Worn himself thin when his financial condition that answer clearly was unacceptable to the committee and mr. Hernandez has stepped up and found a way today to pay off his fine in full from the prior ordinance violation He looks today for an opportunity from those members of the committee who had previously voted against him and those I believe silent majority here and the council are willing to grant him an opportunity and a chance Another question asked by the committee was whether Mr.. Hernandez previous ordinance violation is would somehow illustrate the propensity for future violations if he were granted a license Mr.. Hernandez attempted to Provide to the committee information indicating his his true character over the term of his life rather than this One violation or rather than the character that this one violation is painted upon him a Man testified before the committee by the name of Harold green mr. Green worked It was actually supervised mr. Hernandez at plastics engineering during mr. Hernandez 25 year tenure there mr. Green testified to the committee various character attributes of mr. Hernandez is dependability and In various other information trying to paint a fuller picture of mr. Hernandez to the committee But we're really trying to communicate to the council is we seek that mr. Hernandez not be judged by Some mistakes of the past. He's shown. I think an honest and straightforward approach to attempt to rectify those mistakes of the past and receive an opportunity to work here in the future with the police with the city to run a lawful establishment in the end was a has spent 25 years living and working in this community And I believe that that is the character that should be judged and that's the chance that he should be given He should be given this chance in his retirement to become a businessman within the city of Sheboygan He should be given a chance to prove to the council to the committee members and to the community at whole at large that indeed he is able and more more than able that he is willing to create a lawful establishment for Those of the Hispanic culture and other cultures to attend Enjoy themselves, but in a lawful manner. I think if he's given this one opportunity He'll prove that to all of you. I thank you and I would appreciate any response from any of those I would hopefully characterize as the silent majority who would support mr. Hernandez in giving him his chance Thank you Okay, if there's no other discussion Alderman Bonney Couple clarifications for you in the committee. It was a unanimous vote and that wasn't an accurate statement that it was a Partial vote. I have the minutes from the meeting Second thing I still stand behind the committee's decision as I said before comes down to a basic concept of understanding that obstructing justice is wrong he covered for two people who are for a person who was breaking the law and In both times he met with the committee felt that he had done that person a favor instead actually he was breaking the law in himself Mistakes of past choices as the attorney stated in my opinion lead to accountability result in consequences, which is why we have a law and licensing committee there to Review these situations on a case-by-case scenario. I feel it's imperative that we hold those standards high It was a license as a contract to trust between the community and individual concerning a sale of a controlled substance such as alcohol and those choices have to be made on a day-in-day basis as Person who has a license and he's demonstrated To time and time again every time he comes to before the committee that he felt that obstructing justice was In essence a favor or he was doing right by doing that and our committee does not agree with that Thank You honor Go ahead sir In regards to my comments at a portion of the committee. I believe that not the entire committee was in Attendance and I do believe that some members of that committee will vote in favor. Mr. Hanan is tonight In addition in regards to Alderman Bonet's Thoughts on accountability. I believe mr. Nanda is attempting to be accountable here And I think we can stress accountability, but I think we need to provide an opportunity in this case There are times which people if if they accept accountability as mr. Hernandez has they have to be given another opportunity Otherwise, they will no longer try This is a man in his retirement who is trying to become a businessman He's seeking one opportunity and one opportunity only And I would plead with the council members to give him that opportunity Thank you All of them on there Thank You mr. Mayor. I think mr. Hernandez had one violation a year and a half ago Is that correct? Yes, it is Now if for some reason we do deny the gentleman the license this evening How long before he can apply for the license again? I have a dead answer all over my name. Ah, yes It would be the next licensing year and to be more accurate. He had two two violations He actually served two underage drinkers and instant. I see which he recognized and stated the committee He knew they were underage so Now a year and a half ago was in the other Licensing time and now we are into a second licensing period But he would need to wait for another licensing period. Is that correct? Till the next Correct then the next licensing period would start July 1st. All right. Thank you very much all in the present Thank You your honor. I I am one of that I'm one of the persons that I am I am the person to head that caused the committee to be able to have a partial load I was unable to stay for the last item on the agenda During that meeting and that item on the agenda happened to be the issue regarding mr. Hernandez I Was present in the first meeting and quite frankly I debated the issue of whether the matter should be referred back to committee and It was referred back to committee. So this is where it ended I guess I'm looking I'm looking at a little bit different than Than what some of the alderman are looking at it and perhaps what the committee looked at it There's been many instances where the committee and in previous public protection and safety meetings where people have been given a chance to To to make amends to to do better To to put a plan in place that will prevent the problems in the future From what I can see with mr. Hernandez He's just about bent over back backwards and flipped over twice to to accommodate any concerns that we've had And we keep telling him it's not good enough and what is it that we're asking for or we're going to wait another year I don't know that a year is going to change the personality and the character of man that we have standing here before us I think that is unfair and unwarranted so I am going to vote against the Resolution to deny the license Okay If there's another discussion, would you call the roll please? Serta graph Manny Montemayor Perez Segali Stefan Van Akron Vander wheel Warner Bowman Berg Bonnet Seven eyes six nose Thank you for coming up Okay, 1342 we'll go to committee of the whole 1343 by law and licensing recommending that that the hearing to determine whether the alcohol beverage and tobacco license Mr. Singh petroleum shall be revoked should be heard by law and licensing committee a little more name. Thank you, your honor As for our suspension of the rules, please We have a motion for suspension is there any objections to the suspension During the proceed. Thank you, your honor Mation make a motion to accept and adopt the report of committee Move it in second to accept and adopt the report of committee under discussion Go ahead just The request by the law and licensing committee is to hear the Hear the hearing in the law and licensing committee and that's been done At least one time in the past I think maybe twice I Think the law and licensing committee feels it's working out pretty well I hope the council feels the same way. I think it's working out pretty well. It means Law and licensing committee here's the testimony makes a recommendation and then submits a report to the council and the council gets to act on it then and It avoids having all the full council hear all the testimony during a council meeting and it I Guess from our office. We think it's It's Effective and efficient to do the hearings in that manner You know the discussion would you call her old please graph? Manny Montemay or Perez Sigali Stefan no Van Akron Vander wheel Warner Balmond Berg Bonnet and Serta 12 eyes 1 no motion period 1344 to be referred 1345 will lie over 1244 Resolution by Alderman graph Berg Manny Montemay are authorizing their transfer appropriations in the 2004 budget Alderman graph Yeah, I move the resolution be put upon its passage Move the second resolution be put upon its passage on your discussion Very none. What do you call it Manny? Montemay or Perez Sigali Sigali Stefan Van Akron Vander wheel Warner Balmond Berg Bonnet Serta and graph 13 eyes motion carried 1251 general ordinance by Alderman Warner Vander wheel Serta relating to one-way streets and alleys and angle parking so as to add Maryland Avenue one-way eastbound from south 14th Street to South 13th Street Alderman or I think your honor make a motion the general ordinance be put upon its passage And what's in the second before us under discussion under discussion your honor this ordinance change will address the concerns and problems Experienced by the residents on this one block segment of Maryland Avenue Over the past few years public Protection Safety Committee has had dozens of complaints from residents in this area There have been parking problems due to factory employees not using the parking lots provided and parking on the streets in front of the people's homes We've instituted an impact impacted parking zone to help with that about a year ago and Later we installed a four-way stop sign at 13th in Maryland Because of the excessive speeding and congestion due to the fact factory residential mix in the area The next problem to rise was increased use of Maryland Avenue in this one block section as a truck Residential streets are not truck routes No truck signs went up last week and that situation has been alleviated This change to one-way street will address the last problem faced by the people on Maryland Avenue And that is excessive truck traffic excessive traffic period I should say making this a one-way eastbound will create a situation that will divide the traffic into two directions when it's heading west It's either going to have to head south or head North on 13th Street Making this a one-way eastbound will Will help that neighborhood a lot It will also make it possible for semi trailer trucks to use this as an exit using 13th Street because they will not have enough turning radius to turn on a 13th Street in either direction Just today our traffic officer Sergeant Tarkowski Director of Public Works Tom Holton myself and myself Met with Officials from Mayline to discuss the no trucks issue and the idea that being a one-way street. They did have some concerns We will continue to work with them to address some parking issues further down on Maryland Avenue That will alleviate some of their problems and also on New Jersey Avenue So their trucks will better be able to enter and exit their property This change was discussed in the public protection safety committee and recommended by the police department And it was a direct request by the people on Maryland Avenue between 13th and 14th Street We believe this will be a positive for the neighborhood and ask for your support in solving the problems these city residents face We all know that whole area around there is in need of all the help we can give it From Sheridan Park to the south and Indian Avenue and and to the north on Penn Avenue Neighbors against drug has been very active there and community policing has been troubleshooting that neighborhood for several years And this is one of the solutions we came up, but then I think it'll help them a lot Oh, thank you, Mr. Mayor Alderman Warner answered my question. Thank you There's no other discussion. Would you call the roll please come on to mayor? Okay Prez Oh, I don't have that on my thing here Segali Stefan Then Akron Vander wheel Warner Bowman Berg Bonnet Serta Graf Manny 13 eyes motion carried 1252 general Orans by Alderman Warner Vander wheel Serta Relating to no parking periods as so Yeah, so as to delete the north side of Center Avenue from the no parking 6 a.m. To 6 p.m. Except Sunday and holidays from North 13th Street to a point a hundred feet east It's north it should be north it should be north Trust me. It should be Alderman Warner, I think I move the general ordinance be put upon its passage We have a motion to second before it's under discussion under discussion your honor This came to us from mr. Farmer of 1234 Center Avenue The need for parking restrictions no longer exist and the committee recommends removal and allowing the residents again to park in This area is an area where there used to be a place where a tractor trailer had a back up and it's no longer That need is there in a residence now will have access to the street There's no other discussion. Would you call the roll Perez? So golly Stefan van Akron Vander wheel Warner Bowman Berg Bonnet Serta graph Manny and Montemay or 13 eyes motion carried Alderman Warner I'll thank you on our movie to convene in closed session under the exemption provided in section 1985 1g for the purpose of conferring with legal counsel for the city who is rendering oral advice concerning strategy to be adopted by the Common Council with respect to the room tax lawsuit in which it is involved Hold that thought Steve just said as long as we're just going to discuss this let's do the other matters first time We're going to close and we can adjourn from there. All right the I understand we only have one member of the Committee on risk management Who was able to sign the document that would be acted on when we came out of closed session? So I think we're going to have to hold that document until the next council meeting So I think we can still have the closed session, but there won't be a document to act on when we come back So it makes sense to do this. We might as well finish up the other documents 1347 can be accepted and placed on file 1348 All in favor I 1348 we'll go to building use 1349 public works 1350 to public work public protection and safety and public works 1351 strategic fiscal plan 1352 a resolution by Alderman Warner Banderweil right right flesh insert out proving the homeland security grant from Wisconsin office of justice Assistance Alderman Warner. I thank you your honor. I move the resolution be put upon its passage We have motion to second before us under discussion Alderman Martin. Thank you, mr. Mayor Sounds like a good idea any restrictions any extra responsibilities that we would have to perform that we don't Have now Any money requirements from us afterwards Alderman Warner, I think I don't know Actually is a remake of the document. We had that we held last time And I actually have something that should answer your questions. All right. Thank you This resolution. I think it's great news for the shaboygan fire department and the city of shaboygan's taxpayers Two weeks ago. We pulled the document from the consent agenda in hopes We would be able to get the funding as a grant rather than using money from the shaboygan fire department's major equipment account Well, the weight was worth it Even more than worth it More than we could have imagined it would be worth it We were talking about trying to save about 34,000 dollars in matching funds and not only did that Happen, but an additional 96,000 dollars was granted to us for a total of a hundred and thirty thousand dollar more than the anticipated one hundred and forty three thousand six hundred and ninety five dollars These are Department of Homeland Security grant funds and we can cover the entire cost of the rescue vehicle chassis Which is what we would have had a pay for And also an emergency generator Polar sized for station number one lifting equipment lighting radios mobile computers as Well and all in addition to the mobile command post which the original grant was going to cover This also will be covering training and other items And I think it's great thing for the city and our residents as well as the fire department I'd like to thank chief sire and For his efforts on this and also deputy chief sharp who worked very hard on on these grants and things along with In the entire department for putting this together We ended up getting all these resources in our city to protect the safety of our citizens and actually act as a regional team a Shared service so to speak with the rest of the county in this air and and surrounding area as a rapid response team So I mean this is a real plus and it costs that you bring federal dollars back into shimoy to Madison I don't think Madison took too much of the money on its way here, but they gave us more and I think that's a good thing Thank you Alderman Warner But we're going to enter into a contract with the Wisconsin Office of Justice Assistance for the Homeland Security Grant. What are they going to ask us to do or just accept the money? That's it He's here. Thank you, Mr. Mayor All the room on the mire. Thank you for the question Basically, the question is this is our will we be required to go outside the city should bring in in case of an emergency? The answer is yes, we do it now without this equipment We do it with mutual for mutual aid in the county and also anywhere in the state There are about four different cities that have been giving grants on this type of situation The city of Milwaukee's received like two or three million dollars to have what they call a class a rescue Fox River Valley received a large amount of money to be a class a rescue. We're called the light plus team We couldn't you know like when if you remember in Cleveland when the silo collapse in Cleveland And there's a gentleman killed out there. We now will have the equipment if we're called for mutual aid to do this Yes, we could go to Kenosha We could go to Racine but that's part of being and living in America when New York fell fire departments from all over the state in New York Went to help. This is only basically giving us the equipment to use. We have it here in the community use For for nothing. There's no matching monies It's given us a lot of equipment which we never would have had a command post Which we've been looking for for a long time to allow the police department to use it for their SWAT SWAT events So it's really a blessing and we've got this to use for our community. Okay, so that's probably the only part of the contract Is it will have to go perhaps perhaps other places in the state of Wisconsin? That's correct. Okay. Thank you So golly, I'm sorry Sir, I just I wanted to speak on 1351. That's not the time that I have to vote on this one first. I'm sorry Yeah, 1351 is already passed. It's referred It's going to strategic fiscal 1351 Would you like to know I'm just I guess I'm just a little bit upset about the fact that You're going into negotiations with the county concerning the elimination of the city of police emergency dispatch center And I for one will not be in favor of that whatsoever. I don't understand why We're talking about combined services of this when there really hasn't been that much discussion with us. I Would not be in favor of transferring our Dispatch center to the county whatsoever Thank you, thank you 1352 would you call it? Segali I Yeah Stefan Van Akron Vanderweel Warner Bowman Berg Bonnet Serta graph Manny Montemay or and Perez 13 eyes All right full session I'd move to convene in closed session under the exemption provided in section 1985 1g for the purpose of conferring with legal counsel for the city was rendering oral advice concerning strategy to be adopted by the Common Council with respect for the room tax lawsuit in which it is involved Motion a second before us join closed section under discussion Oh Okay, Stefan Van Akron Vanderweel Warner. Hi Bowman Berg Bonnet Serta graph Manny Montemay or Perez Segali. Oh, so much fun 13 eyes I never Yes, that was tried and I'm sure we'll be tried again and brought up at a future transit meetings also to let all the alderman know