 at Vernee here at Mobile Law Congress. Hello, my name is Joker, and I'm in charge of Vernee marketing, and it's very glad to us to introduce our new flagship in this year. This one is Apollo 2, and we could be the first to launch it with Helio X-30 chipset. So this is the future of MediaTek right here. It's 10 nanometer CPU, it's crazy low nanometers. ARM Cortex A73, 53, 35, with a, you even talking about six gigabytes of RAM? Yes. And eight gigabytes of RAM, even. Yes, and it's coming in May, right? Yes, it will come in May, and we will have a lot of customers and resellers want to sell this, how this is this year. And right now you have the Apollo 1? Apollo, yes, the model is Apollo. We launched this in last year, and the price is around $205. This is well sold in last year. All right, and then you also have some different ones over here. You have Thor, for example. This is very affordable, right? Yes, this is our first model we launched last year, and the price is around $100. And then you have Apollo Lite, X20, more affordable, full HD display. And this one is less than how much? $170. And all these can run special software, you're partnering with the company over there? I also want to introduce our new software partners, the Oxy. So I want to invite my partner to introduce their new app. So here you're going to connect the... Hello, so who are you? Hi, I'm Jeremy from Oxy. So we are partnering with Verny, and we're developing something that is turning your phone into a computer. So you take the Apollo phone, but you can actually use any of these we just filmed there, in the $99 one. So I'm turning on this, I'm turning it. And this is the next dock. Yeah, that's what we're doing here. Okay, so you've got the phone in remote, and I'm testing Oxy. And now you've got cellophones, but in addition, you've got a full office setup environment. You can start any Android app. This thing right here? Yeah. So you can start any Android app, you can run them as Windows? Yeah, any Android app, even if it was not specifically made for it, like YouTube, you can also have some office apps, like this is on the open office. You have a high-pressure phone, I see. Can you resize the windows easily? Oh, sure. How do you do? Going. This in the corner? Yeah, just in the center. Resize it. Nice. And this application right here, it's competent. Can I try? So what do you have up there? You have the percent, you have a menu, what do you have up there? This is just like that, so you've got the height. If you want to dim the light, the main phone, same time, you have Bluetooth management. What do you have there? This is the background, so you can change background. And then you have a... Can you click on a time? Right now there's nothing, but there will be a... Calendar? Calendar, yeah, exactly. Where do you have all the notifications? Notifications are coming up on the right when you've got on the phone. Can you go and check them? Or only when something happens? No, only when something happens. And for example, when you have a call, it's showing it, and you can... It's also showing on the phone, so you can still take the call on the phone, because the phone is completely independent from the other. So this is the Apollo phone, and you have... Is it using Type-C? Or micro-USB? Yeah, Type-C, yes, Type-C. Type-C? And how is it going out? Is it displaying or... Because you're so different? Yeah, for... Oxy will work with any connection, so you can use the wireless, for example. But here, we used a display link adapter, so it's compatible with USB-C, for example. And then we are going out with HDMI, and then to the next app. So right now it's displaying? This is displaying. And this is a display link dongle right here? It's displaying the adapter, yeah. But it could be actually nearly in the cable kind of, but it depends if display link is supported in the laptop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This one only supports HDMI input. This one only supports HDMI. That's why we use this. All right. And turn your smartphone into a PC. Where are you based? We're based in France, actually, near Paris. Yeah, it's a new startup. We are one year old, actually. So we start to have stable release. It's available on some forums for testing on different phones. Soon for... Is this an app? It's not an app. It's a... Could you change the OS? Yeah, you need to... You add some API into the OS to add this kind of behavior, especially independent screen. But it's still compatible with every app. So is this a modified Apollo? You already convinced them to ship it on every Apollo? This is modified Apollo. Yeah, we hope we can ship it in a little bit. But I don't know. You modified the framework of Android, something you add to it, right? Actually, we modified, we add some API into the Android framework. Framework. Is it potentially included with Android 7 that you don't need to modify anything? Yeah, actually, Android 7 is... Technically, it's working a lot differently. We could... Some of the API we add are the same as the Android 7, but Android 7 is not enough. We need to still need to modify right now. It's still not enough? No, no. What does it mean? Google didn't learn the lesson yet? What is going on? I don't know. Why didn't you add those things in there? That was the question I had, actually. So, I still don't know. But you're doing it. Yeah, we're doing it. But you have to modify it for more. How much work is it to do that? Actually, right now, if we know, for example, right now we're based on Marshmallow. We know the modification to do, so we can port it on any manufacturer's code, or even AOSP. We have available on internet who have something based on the Cyanogen mode slash Linux OS. And we'll soon be available with Nougat, of course. So, this looks awesome and great. How's the performance? Because this is a DECA core phone, and this is going to be an X30. It's going to be very important to use all these 10 cores. And is it automatically in Android that some of the background windows use some cores and the other different cores? So, how does it work? Of course, as we have a simple app, our app is not using a lot. You have a lot of optimizations you can still do? We can still optimize, but right now it's really fast because our environment is just a small addition and it's not taking a lot of memory. And basically, the more memory you have, the more apps you can launch. And with 4GB on Apollo and I think 8GB on this one, you can launch any number of applications you want right now. And you can easily multitask. Do you have some gestures to go from one to the other? Not right now. We are more focused on the stability and the technical stuff. But right now we're going to be... So, what is the kind of process you do? You're based in France. Yeah. Do you travel to Shenzhen to partner up with people? Yeah, not me, but the director, Laurent Alago, went into China and met a B&E and they were really interested. So we partnered and they invited us to... Where are you based in France? Actually, we are based in Neuilly. In Neuilly? But we have some... You're from Paris? Yeah, it's close to Paris. And we have an office in Versailles. Versailles in the castle. Close to the castle. Not in the castle. That's a really great job. Really close to it. That should be the future masters of the world. It should be based in Versailles, I think. Probably great. Take over Microsoft and Mac and maybe even influence Chrome OS. Because who knows, there might be a full version of Chrome coming to Android at some point. And so how does it compare with Linux OS? Oh, that's actually a massive good question. So I would say, like, two sides. There is the... Andromium and a few... There is also what's the name? LinaOS and stuff like this. They are doing some apps. So you can start apps that are weird design to launch in it. Only a few apps, I suppose. Only a few apps because you need the developer to add some SDK. I'm not even sure it's available. So basically, they add to code each app. So they code a browser, an email. They have eight apps or something. So there is a lot, yeah, of course. Maybe they have eight, maybe they only have six. Of course, there is a browser, so that's useful. I mean, it's great, but then there's Remix and Phoenix. They also support full apps. Remix and Phoenix are doing something else. They are replacing the Android system. So with Remix OS, for example, you plug Remix OS on the screen and you've got Remix OS. And that's it. It's not working on smartphone right now. Of course, there is the new project they add, which is kind of similar to us. But Remix OS, like the one we know at 3D, is only working on maybe tablets, but mostly small devices that you connect to your TV. And yeah, that's the difference. What are you doing, Android? Continue. We're doing Android, continue. And we like to say, we do it better. You do it better than these guys, you think. That's what we're just to say. How many people are using this right now? Is only a new company, a few testers? Right now, there is a few testers on the internet on some French forums. And I think we have got maybe 100 installations. So that's not a lot, but they are giving us a lot of good feedbacks, sorry. And that would be great if you could, if you want to download it right now, you can go on some forums, for example, Android or for Android forums, French forums. But we'll soon put a website, a consumer website. I don't know the address yet, so get in touch. It's auksense.com, where you can download the different application for some tests. And then you need to download the ROM? Yes, of course. For specific phones? Yeah, of course. So right now, we have, I think, six, seven different numbers, at least, I would say, eight from flagships, like OnePlus, Note 4, LG. I don't think it's a big deal, you know? You just need to partner. How do you contact with Bernie? Yeah, of course. You're a business veteran. Actually, I'm CTO, I'm a lead dev, so I'm not too much into the business. But Lauren went there and did a lot of contacts. We just need to connect and put it in the forum. Right now, we have a lot of contacts with a lot of manufacturers. So we're in discussion with a lot of them. And we hope that Oxy can be shipped with the maximum number of front brands. Yeah. That's very, very cool. And the next dock, they shipped all their backers, right? Everybody's happy with the next dock. The first time I see it for real. It's nice, right? Yeah, it's a bit like, yeah. Somebody needs to make a next dock with display built in. Yeah. Just connect to USB, nothing else. Yeah, or even with... MHL Slimport? Yeah, for Slimport, for example. We have some friends in Miraccess, which are doing... $2.99. Yeah. If you can see that, they're nice. But they are somewhere else, right? Yeah, just a bit on the other side. Cool. Yeah, I filmed those guys in CS. All right. We didn't film them in CS, we just filmed them. Yeah. So all you see is the most important. Cool. So there it is. That's cool. Maybe this is the way to use a non-processor and to use Android and to use these crazy fast processors for all the potential that they have. Yeah. Because you can never use that on a smartphone screen. It's too small. Yeah. And it has also some other beneficial. For example, if your phone is... You can keep it every time, so everywhere. So it's easier to synchronize. You won't get stolen and you can encrypt data very easily. So it's safer for fleet management. It's really easy for companies. You can do just a backup. With this, you don't sync your device, you do just backup. So you just backup your data. You lose your phone. It's okay. You just get a new one and you put back your data. You put back your data into the computer. Right now it's not as easy to do. Can you certify with GMS? GMS certification is still with your firmware? All that stuff. Right now we're working with VCTS. VCTS, sorry. We're working with VCTS validation right now. But as we're working with a community on Android right now, on V&E, V&E still we've got a play service right now. And for the user, as it's an open source project, it didn't ship a goal play, but you can install it. But we're working into having the VCTS validation and that's our goal. We don't want to change Android. We want to add something on it. That's the point of compare to RemixOS for example. What's your business model? How are you going to make money? It's not free, right? Good question. We want to work with companies like B2B, B2C for example, if we can do maybe some code funding soon. I hope so. Code funding, so you will maybe ship a phone with it pre-installed. That'd be great. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I don't know. Right now I can't tell right now. Yeah, we'll see. And then over here you shine a different demo right there. Let's go. Behind here, it's running on a projector also. Yeah, so it can also work wireless, so this is with VSTON, oh, normal battery. It works on the Miracast also. Yeah, this is Miracast, Wi-Fi display. So we work on the latency, so there is no latency with the mouse. Nice. For example, if you compare with, if you use it, for example with Comcast. Is the Miracast compatible dongle over there? It's compatible here. The dongle or the projector is Miracast, and that's it. Oh, it's a Microsoft wireless display. Yeah, it's a Microsoft one. Microsoft is working well with it. We also test action tech, are great also. We didn't try all the brand actually. So did the Google engineer come by the booth here? Any Googlers or Microsoft employees? Right now we haven't seen anyone. This morning I didn't see any employee from Google or Miracast. I think they hide behind shell companies, you know? Yeah, maybe. So you never know it's a Google one? Maybe, maybe, maybe. I don't know. And Apple, I'm sure they hear, like, oh my god, this is the future of OS X. I'm not sure, Apple. I'm not sure. Apple. Yeah, I'm not sure. Apple wants to do that because they are not, they are syncing device. Because you have an iPhone, you have an iMac, a MacBook Pro. You can sync them. Of course, if you can just buy one phone, you want to buy the computer. So that's not, I don't think they want to do that actually. Nice. All right. Yeah, we need to check the UI more. I'm looking forward to see how it's going. And you can easily click full screen? Yeah, we can put on the screen. For example, if we use, we develop some tools. For example, this kind of games have two joystick on it. So, for example, you have like two joystick here. You can load an app with developed on it. You can switch to bad mode. Basically, you found you have back all your control gear. This is the app. The screen, the touch, is sent to the app. So that means you can play with two joystick like this. And have it as a joystick controller. If you have a game using accelerometer on gyroscope, you can do a race like this. This is so great for games. How do you click full screen? We have like two modes. We have maximized, we have maximized, we have syncing. This is where we hide the time and apps. Right now, no, but we are working on it. This is completely full screen. All right. Have you tested every two million apps already at all? No, sometimes we find some incompatibilities, but we are working on it. Actually, for example, with Bowser, we had a lot of RAM for a long time because the Bowser was not adapt to the size of the virtual screen we are doing here. And now it's fixed. So we are working every day to do it better. But before we were sharing an alpha to internet, now we can call it a beta on even maybe not release candidate, but we have reached a point of stability. How many engineers? Right now, we are a team of four in Oxy. So we are a very small team. So we have seen long before, but sadly it's not here anymore. And he's the CEO. I'm the CTO, and we have another person in the team. Cool. That's awesome. So maybe the future of OS is going to be French. All right. That would be great.