 or in chat if you would call the roll call? Just one second, Roberta. Are you guys ready at WSDS? Okay, so we'll call a roll call, Roberta. Older person, Wolfe? Here. Dave Soxie? Here. Steve Harrison? Here. Steve Harrison? Steve, you're muted. I am here. Dave Gass? James Owen? Here. Amy Horst? We have a full crew. Pledge allegiance, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay. Do we have any conflict of interest with what's on the agenda today? Hearing none, let us proceed. Minutes from the April 28, 2020 meeting has presented. Cheryl, entertain a motion to approve. Just stay there and to approve. And move and second it. Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Roberta, Roberta, for those that are making motions, can you please state your name first so we know who it is? The motion made by Wolfe, seconded by Harrison. Thank you. Motion carries. Any opposed? Nope, motion carries. Thank you so much. Okay, we have a request by Angler Avenue to use the adjacent land to their current property. Ed, if you would give us the background, please. So Paul Roberts is in the council chambers with us. I'm gonna, he's actually at the podium. I'm gonna turn it over to him to explain his request and then we'll follow up with some discussion. Go ahead. Good morning. Anyways, the reason for our request is basically to provide more services to our customers throughout the summer with the social distancing. We've reduced our tables, we're at 50% now, inside and outside on the patios. And what we would like to do is experiment with a tiki bar atmosphere on the east side. We've contacted 10 companies and we've got the information we need there. We'd also be looking at utilizing all disposable cups and cans, nothing washable out in that area. We'd also be looking at some entertainment as funds are available and basically just a tiki bar atmosphere. So is, Chair, can I ask a question? Is it, so it's not very clear to me the timeline. So is the plan to put the tent up now and keep it up through September? Soon, well, as soon as we can, we've got to coordinate quite a few things yet. We wanna check with the city about some porta-potties because we've got limited facilities, especially with the construction going on to the east. I'm not even sure if those restrooms are open, but we still have a great deal of traffic in the area, especially with blue Harbor being opened up again. And we're one of the only places that people can stop to use the facilities. And it's kind of, you know, putting a burden on us with our customers. Okay. Paul, this is Roberta. It is still not clear to me. You are intending to direct the tent and keep it on that property for the entire summer? Well, we're looking at like 90 days. We've checked with the tent companies and they'll do a 90 day rental with us. And we would take care of the lawn maintenance and any overseeing that would be required after use of the property to get back to where it was. Did that answer your question? It did. Okay. One other thing, we have heard proposals from you before. Typically, we see permission for the tent and the tent goes up and the tent comes down. And then the tent goes up and the tent comes down a couple of times this summer. Correct. This is a little bit different. So I would ask the committee their observations. I guess, Sheriff, I would have one question regarding the entertainment as is there any restrictions in terms of the neighborhood having concern about outdoor entertainment on a more permanent basis? I mean, the concept of a Tiki Bar I think is great from an entertainment point of view. However, there are residents right across the street. I mean, do we run into any issues or is that a non-issue? Can you discuss, Paul, what you think that hours of operation are gonna be? Well, the hours of operation, what we're looking at now is like three or four in the afternoon till about 10 o'clock at night. We don't wanna really be out there after 10. And if we have entertainment, say on a Friday or a Saturday, I believe we're limited to 11 o'clock. So on a Friday and Saturday, for sure, we would be done by 11. With any- So this would be a six day a week, seven day a week event? Correct. We're open six days a week right now, closed on Tuesdays, but we're hoping by July 1st, we'll be ramped up and ready to go seven days a week. But we've got additional staff to hire to make this work also. I don't know if you can- Yeah, David. This is something that really requires sort of a written agreement that spells out sort of hours of operation, types of entertainment. What happens if you violate the experience? I mean, this is, I think it's an interesting idea. It's definitely worth trying in this crazy time we're living in, but you really need something. You just can't approve this on a resolution. I mean, I think that something needs to be something that the city attorney's office prepares that kind of outlines the basic rules of conduct between the parties and what happens if someone violates that. That's just my thought. I think you need something more involved than just a resolution from the RDA and when something that's gonna go on for 90 to continue a phase. Roberta. Any other comments? Amy? Yeah, you know, my feeling is that it is such an extraordinary time and anything we can do to help with outdoor dining so that restaurants can stay viable and there's stuff to do in Sheboygan that is safe during the summer. I know from the arts center perspective we had to cancel our summer concerts and other things. So I think we should be as encouraging as possible. I do agree with Dave that perhaps we could, instead of looking at the normal event solution that we typically go through with hanglers, perhaps we look at a temporary rental of that property as it is a trial period. And, you know, they're thinking and have considered a more permanent solution. I think it was a great addition for the riverfront but perhaps it's a 90 day, you know, ground lease so that there are some more specific terms in order and that it's also fair for anybody else that's down there and they would come to us with really wanting to occupy a space for that amount of time. Okay, thank you, Amy. Roberta. You have to be introduced. Yes. Is Chuck Adams on the line? Thomas Cameron in. Thomas, I know that you're not on for this item but my question is, is that something that we could work with the attorney's office to get a draft of an agreement that we could bring back to this body? You know, I'm hearing a couple of different forms that they could possibly take but I think in general what I'm hearing is a desire to have sort of the rules and the expectations really clearly laid out. That's exactly what we're hearing. So let's do this. Let's send it to the city attorney's office, do a temporary ground lease and fill out exactly what the rules of engagement are basically for that property. I'd like to observe that in previous conversations with Anglers Avenue, they have been wanting to actually build a creepy bar on that area. So I think doing a three month trial given the current circumstances would be warranted. So let us take that back to the city attorney's office and follow if you would work with staff to pull that together. And then back to us, we can move forward with the discussion. Anybody else? Can I make a request, Bert? I'd like to make a recommendation. Okay. Bert? David, first, please. Bert, can you hear me? David, yes. Can you hear me? Okay. I'd like to make a recommendation. I'd like staff to be able to create this agreement, but in lieu of time here, we're already, what is today, it's 17th. I'd like to get permission and approval for them to go forward based on staff putting together this several page agreement. That's my recommendation. You're gonna need to bring it back to this body because that'll take too long. Is that a motion, David? Yes, ma'am. I would second. Okay, there's maybe by David Stocksby, seconded by Amy Horst, that this goes to the city attorney to staff and they negotiate the rules prior to grant restrictions. Chad, is it reasonable to assume we could get this done next week? I would think so. I think that would really help an idea to Amy Horst. I think we need more of this offense and outdoors stuff for people and have things for them to do. Okay, any other discussions? We're like five minutes past. Is there anything else you need out of me? No, David. Sorry about that. I apologize, everybody. I gotta run. Okay, thank you. Okay, motion on the floor. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carried. Thank you so much. Okay, discussion and action on the loan related to the three twins. Is it for them? I think so. Is it for them? We're done? We have an upstanding loan with three twins. They are or have gone out of business. So we need to protect us about what's going on here. So if I can start out and then Thomas will fill in. So we made a loan to three twins ice cream back in October of 2013 for $120,000 and that loan was for equipment and purchase of the property at 816 Michigan Avenue. They have paid it down to a roughly $60,000. They had met all the job creation requirements and then when COVID hit, they made the decision to shutter the plan. So we had a note that was 3% for 10 years. It was subordinated personal guarantees and a mortgage on the property. So I'll turn it over to Thomas to give you guys an update as to where he is in the negotiations and what it looks like for us with the remaining 60,000. What happened to the voice? Thomas, this is Chad. I don't think he can even hear us. Thomas, can you hear me? Nope. The only thing that I could say is we dial back into the go-to, oh, Thomas, can you hear us? He's coming back a little bit. He's negotiating or in first position on the building. So he's just negotiating it from there, but they're a California company. So they're filing under California law and their bankruptcy laws are different, but it looks like there's enough equity for us to get paid back our portion. Now we lost him completely. Janet, you're gonna have to make up the notes. I was gonna say, this portion's gonna be hard to make minutes of. So we can't, so Roberta's asking a question and we can't even hear her. But how are we gonna do the rest of the agenda? The only other thing would be is to log in and get on in. Yeah, you wanna go down and get my laptop? We can pull it up on WSES. Shall we try disconnecting on here and reconnecting? That extension is not valid. I forgot to dial a nine, sorry. Well, they're all still doing their thing, so. Please enter your access code followed by the pound or hash sign. To enable audio controls, please enter your audio pin followed by the pound or hash sign. If you do not. I mean, file the proof claim, but I wouldn't wait around. I'd approach and see what they have to say. Yes. David, would you like to put that in the form of a motion? I would move. I don't know if you need our approval to file a proof claim, but I mean, I would move that the approval claim be filed at a timely basis and all other actions be taken. It could be taken to within the legal proceeding, but also that we pursue the guarantor for payment on this guarantee, quote, quote. Personal guarantee. Right. Okay. Roberta. I've been moved by David Gaff and seconded by Todd Wolfe. Roberta. Any other discussions? Yes. So we lost some, we lost sound in this council chambers and heard none of the discussion. So can Dave, it's a proof of something in a timely basis, but we didn't hear that. What was the word? Proof of claim? I'll file a proof of claim. Okay. Proof of claim in the bankruptcy, but also approach the guarantor about payment on the guarantee immediately. Okay. We got that. Personal guarantee. Do you have that now? Yes, we do. All right. Any further discussions? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Are those opposed? Hearing none, portion carries. Thank you very much. And discussion on the old world creamery and their job requirements for their business development loan. You recall we have a couple of loans with them. Chad, you want to give us the background? Yeah, so we have two $500,000 notes with them. The second $500,000 note was executed, I think in May of 2016, maybe, or 2018, I don't have the numbers in front of me. But anyway, they were under that note. They were required to create 29 new positions with 51% of a meeting, the low to moderate income threshold. They have met that requirements and actually have a few more people on and have met 26 of the jobs meeting the low to moderate income threshold. So we're looking for approval from the committee to satisfy the job creation requirements for that loan. I'll entertain a motion to satisfy job requirements and try to appropriate that. I'll move. Todd Wolfe moved, is there a second? Second, Harrison. Steve Harrison seconded, okay. Any other discussions? Great, okay. All those in favor say aye. Motion carries. Roberta, if I can interject one other thing, you'll recall that loan required them to get a new sign and I don't know if you've been down Erie Avenue yet, but they have charged up their new Old World Creamery sign and taken the old one down. I saw that yesterday. Thank you very much, Old World Creamery. Okay, any other discussion? All right, updates and regarding the innovation district as you recall, this committee owns the redevelopment authority owns the property and we submitted a letter to the funding organization that we would sell the property to the FCEDC Foundation for a dollar and they would be able to use the value of that property as a match for the grant. Chad, you want to catch us up on that? Yes, so the grant was submitted last week, Tuesday or Wednesday. The building has had a number of gyrations through the process, but in the end, it's a 20,000 square foot building, 10,000 square feet per floor. The first floor is 5,000 square feet of Millport Sigma as a chemical lab and then some event and programming and a prototyping lab that would be operated by the EDC, but the technicalities of it would be through Lakeshore Technical College, so they would provide professional people to operate a prototyping lab for startup businesses. On the second floor is a combination of Sheboygan County Economic Development Corporation's offices, small business center offices, score offices, basically help for entrepreneurship, entrepreneurs looking for a place to get some counseling and stuff as well as some incubator space. So there's a number of small offices and a little bit larger size offices where you could rent a space and start up your business and kind of collaborate with other businesses and then there's a event programming space for the programming arm of the Innovation District. So the total project is about $6.1 million. They've asked EDA for $4.7 million and would end up financing the difference of the note and have gotten preliminary commitment from a bank to do so. So in the end, the application has, they were very successful in getting almost 200 and some new jobs to be created. I think it's 217 and new jobs to be created across the county as it relates to this project and then a retention of about 150 jobs and about $31 million in private investment. So we're optimistic that the EDA is gonna be on board with this. The EDA kind of advised us that they probably wouldn't approve a grant more than $5 million. So that's kind of been the kind of bringing the project down to a $6.1 million project. But all in, it looks like it's a fairly good opportunity with a great first start in the Innovation District. So if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Otherwise, we'll just wait and see what the timeline is for them to review it and get back to us with awards or questions or whatever. Do we have any idea of timeline? We do not. It's on a first come, first serve basis. So it's dependent on how many applications they've received. We were led to believe that they had at least five applications. Now this is an entire nation competitive process. So I think we got in early enough because they just announced it about a month ago, but we'll have to wait and see what their timeline is. Any other questions? I guess outside of this building, I don't know if this is relevant to the discussion right now, but has there been any developments as far as what the Innovation District is ultimately going to look like outside of this one building? Are there any conceptual developments or ideas that will make this an appealing draw for the city outside of an office building? So to answer your question, we've hired an architectural planning firm to help us lay that out, but we have put them on hold to see where this first building development goes and then to come back and look at the larger area and master plan it out once we know if this building is gonna be a go or not. So we've got money in our budget for parking improvements. We're talking about some shared potential like plaza areas that would be more of a public feel incorporated into the building. So yes, we haven't moved forward yet because we wanna make sure that we can see that there's a building that's coming and then the idea would be to try to energize a space around whatever happens ultimately in the building. Thank you for the question, okay. Any other questions? Hearing none, Chair will entertain a motion to adjourn. That's moved by Todd Cole, seconded by Amy. Are there any objections? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Or adjourned. Thank you.