 Big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this, who gonna bring it to the table, boss talk, who your girlfriend favorite, boss talk, we gonna do it how you want it, boss talk, yeah everybody on it, boss talk, it's a unique hustle. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-C-E-O and I'm here with the lovely official, Miss Jamaica, what's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, walk on, my dad. All right, give me a little bit. My dad, my dad, my dad. Say man, hey man, listen man, hey man, we in Dallas, Texas man, it's about to go down man, you know, man, I just keep saying, God keep blessing me bro, man, I get the best people man that come in on this platform. We meet some of the most talented people, some of the people that interlock in with the city, man, say man, this guy right here, I would have never guessed it, man, but it just, something's up, just dropping your lap. Say man, my boy Lo Deez is in the building, man, what's up man? Yo, yo, yo, yo, what's going on? Man, I'm just, hey, I'm glad to have you on the platform. Nah, for sure man, I'm glad to be here. Man, one of the coldest dudes I know, man, but he move, hey man, like a real G in silence in Lausanne. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, man. So, just a little bit about yourself. Are you from Oakville? I am from Oakville, from Holland Hills, man. Holland Hills? Man, hold up, Gator man, man. Oh Gator man. Say it man, hold up man. Say it man, that nigga said, I don't walk the ground. I don't walk the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard the slam, but better off or worse, I think you're out. That was the good man. See, I can't even go back, even before I see, I can't believe they're making it 20 years. Hey, hey, hey, that's it, man. Listen, man. I'm gonna tell you something. You try like, man, Holland Hill, that's 2000 when they came out. Man, me and this nigga, man, before I graduated, man. Me and this nigga used to be at the clubs together, strip club, most left where we frequent. Most left where you know, we had dreams back in the day. This was the strip club dream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We kicking it, man. Every time I see the nigga, the nigga fly. I'm like, yeah, nigga. Okay, nigga, I'm fly too, nigga. We put two fly niggas in there. You know, you watch the ones who really, you know, yeah, you doing this thing, you know what I'm saying? Just the way you move, you know, you move different, man. Say, man, I'm gonna tell you something about Gator, man, man. It's hard to go behind him in the booth, man. Oh, you used to, oh, you used to be in that booth. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, man, man. You know, tell him what he's gonna say on that thing. He's gonna make it thing hard. He's gonna make it thing hard, man. You know, he got one of the hardest pins to come out to do. I have to see it, man. He broke the mold for the hood, for my neighborhood, man. And you know, yeah, nobody just really did it like that. I was asked where he at now. I'll be like, man, where is he at? You know, it's just like, you know, what's going on right now is people don't give props to what came before them, man. You know, I always got to give the props where I got from some of my inspirations and stuff from. And he was one of the dudes that was doing it big at my neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? Right at the time of early 2000s, man. So he's one of the people that, why you started rapping? I can't say he was why I started rapping. No, no, no. He ain't the reason why. I was gonna ask. He ain't his why, but he respected me because he paved the way. Exactly, man. It was him, man. Was it another nigga that was with him? Bollig. Bollig. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bollig was with him. Shout out to Bollig, man. You know what I'm saying? Straight off of High Street, Sanderson. Yeah, yeah. See the hood? That's the word. That's what he had, baby. That's it right there. Old Cliff Street niggas for real. Oh man, I loved it, man. I would always go through there. They had that park over there. I know about the park, man. Yeah, yeah. You got, you got, you got the park where they used to have a Holly Hill picnic every year that's called a Miller family park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But then they switched it to, you know what I'm saying? Over there and I blamed it when they started doing it every year now, but you know, you got a lot of parks in Holly Hill, man. You got the College Park, you know what I'm saying? Not the neighborhood, but the park. Park, yeah. Shout out to them College Park dudes. So did you, so what gave you this urge to love music so much like you do? Oh man, it just, I always had a way with words, man. I was one of them dudes that hated doing Easter speeches at church and Christmas speeches. So I just used to write my own instead of doing the ones that they pick out in the book for you. You know what I'm saying? And was that well received when you write your own? They used to clap real hard and I think for 10 or 11 year old I had a pretty good pen at the time. You know what I'm saying? It just gave me the motivation to want to write even more and then it kind of, you know, melted and blurred into the hip hop as I fell in love with that. So I started writing my raps in school and then you know what I'm saying? By the time I got to sixth or seventh grade I started trying to go to the studio. Wow. And the thing I like about you is it seems as if you were evolving. I'm just looking at the whole, as you, as we talk, I'm looking at the evolution that's happening with you. For sure, man. Because it's the evolution going on, man. It's, you ain't just, and you change it with the times. A lot of people can't change it with the times. They get stuck, they get stuck. I didn't try to step into a manager position, I didn't. It just kind of took me, you know what I'm saying? It was, I had a little dude around me that was going hard and he was doing the things that we taught him to do and he even gained some more stuff on his own. Who was the first? Who was it? Who was it? Well, it was Yellow Beesie, because he got two points. Oh, he was the first. Well, I've been having yellow since he was like 13. Get the hell out of here. Yeah, yeah, like. So you've been his only manager. Well, I wasn't his manager at first. He just was like, I put out my album, PMG Entertainment. And I saw the PMG Entertainment put out my album with my partner, Scootermack. He was the CEO with me. Scootermack had a brother, you know what I'm saying? And he was in a group by the name of TRP. And the little brother was Young Kobe, and there's another guy by the name of Snoop Munstro and Yellow Beesie. Wow. So, you know, at the time, I think Kobe was like 16 or he probably was like 15 and Snoop was like 16 and Yellow was like 13. Wow, that's crazy. And as I was putting out my music, they was doing a little thing and Yellow eventually graduated from high school and other guys. We still are family right now, but they had like links inside, ending at the pin. Yeah, yeah. That's most street do that too. So, how old were you when you stopped rapping? I put out my last album probably like 2015. Wow. I had A-Ball and MJG on it. Get out of here, man. Man, stop it, bro. Don't do this, man. I'm from the old school. You went there. Don't do that, man. I'm from it, too. You had A-Ball and MJG on that thing. Yeah, I bought A-Ball and MJG. Bro, I got to get that with it. I didn't get it. I got this. Look it up. You shot the video on YouTube. You shot the video on YouTube. You saw the YouTube. Do you know that nigga, man? A-Ball, man. I'm for to look this up right and stop playing, man. Two separate videos. What's the name of the song, bro? MJG is called Ike Turner, Eddie Kane. MJG. And what was your name? Lodeezy? Lodeezy, yeah. Lodeezy. And the one where A-Ball was called, never seen one. How did you come up with that name, Lodeezy? Or who came up with it? I did. When I first started rapping, man, I was A-Low. Yeah. And then I switched from A-Low to Lowdown when I got it by liking it in ninth grade. And it was this dude that was on, I think he was on DJ DMD. Show enough. There it is. DJ DMD's label, you know, the 25 Lotties on my dresser. He had to do by the name Mr. Lowdown on his squad. So I had to switch mine to Lodeezy. That was around the time when everybody was doing the easy, easy, easy. L-A-B-Z-A. Yeah, L-A-B-Z-A, that thing. But Lodeezy, what's the one with you and A-Ball? Never seen one. Never seen one. You will, bitch. If I never seen one. I just know that nigga went in on you like that, man. Same in ball. We had a class. I know he did, man. I already know how he do it. And let me tell you, the crazy part about it is, I was recently just supposed to do the song with MJG. And then the manager shut out to the printer. He was like, man, you ain't got nothing for ball. I'm like, shit, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So we just made that happen to put the business together for that. And I ended up getting two songs from the group. So I made, you know what I'm saying? It was two songs instead of just one song. That's cool. That is crazy. And that's sad that I missed it. You say what year was this? I was two years. Like 2015. I gotta find that song, man. He said it's never seen one. I got to keep on talking. Y'all going to have a good company. Y'all want to do all that. I'm talking before we started. Now y'all want to sit back and act like y'all were with me. Okay. So, so, so you open book. Okay. So your son, we just interviewed him and he now does music. He does. And you told me about your younger son that he's also upcoming, you know, getting him into the music as well. But he ain't getting him into it. He getting himself into it. For sure. So you have a line of music, I want to say artists, because in everything you do, you're an artist. I think if I was a basketball coach or a basketball player or a football coach or a football player, they'd be doing that too. So it's all about, you know what I'm saying? No. But that's amazing. The apple don't fall too far from the tree. You feel what I'm saying? But I didn't force them into it. That's one thing I want everybody to know. I don't even make beats. My oldest son is a producer. So that's something that he found on himself and I was able to help him out put him on the right track to doing it. My youngest son, he's just trying to do what he'd like to do. You know what I'm saying? Everybody wants to be a rapper right now. Yeah, you're right. He's like nine right now. And even if, you know what I'm saying? I ain't saying that it's not going to happen for him, but I really just like for him to get into it, because it enables him to catapult off other things. Like he could learn how to speak, you know, do dialogues or acting or, you know what I'm saying? Motivational speaker, just because if you can learn to rap a whole song and not be afraid to be in front of people and speak. That's true. You can do a lot of things with that, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I'm just trying to get them butterflies out of this stomach. He ain't scared. That's what I'm saying about it. He ain't scared. I see how you were older, man. You was out there bad back in the days, man. I see you, you were working. Oh, yeah. I had like nine albums. See what I'm saying? He was working. No, no. See the thing about it is, it's kind of crazy. I was my own manager. I was just an artist at the time. And a lot of things that I learned as a manager is when I broke my head up against the wall as an artist. So at the time, you know what I'm saying? A lot of my eyes wouldn't die and then T's wouldn't cross as an artist. But you now, you leveled up when you've seen what you had to do for others. So a lot of my stuff, like I had, I got a big body at work, but a lot of it's not on all DSPs and platforms and music and stuff. You just, I was out in the CD era, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure. So, you know, we were going through, I mean, doing consignment and driving off CDs and going, you know, on the road and having to, you know, mail off stuff to people and things of that nature. So that's how, that's how the game was. And I just really didn't ever catch my music up to the standard of what's going on right now. But as a manager, I make sure everything is going in place for all my clients. So seeing music the way it was and how you had to distribute CDs and do all of that, do you think that back then you worked harder than what people are doing now? It was definitely because the difference between then and now is you could just put your music in front of millions of people with the press of a button. Exactly. Back then you had to go to these places. But you got to calculate it correctly because if you don't, you just be throwing it out there and it ain't going to do it right, right? It was more, yeah. But at the same time, it's all about, like, you know what I'm saying, who your distributor is and how you getting your music out for that to happen. But a lot of front end money is missing now. Okay. Okay. Like, you know, you used to be able to, if you was high commodity and these people knew that you was going to sell out, like Gator Man, we just talked about Gator Man. Big Chief, you know what I'm saying? Those dudes were the dudes that could take their CDs to all the mom and pops, Big Cheese and Irrigazums and Sam Goodies and all the stores and guaranteed to drop off 100 copies or 200 copies at a time and they'll cash them right out because they know they're going to sell it. Right. That's how, that was the front end money I'm talking about. Yeah. See, right now, you know, it's, you know, you really don't just get that. So that's a disadvantage of the way how things are now. You see, they had to put a stop to that because we didn't really need the labels no more. All I had to do was just go find somebody that could press up my CDs, pay them and go take it to the people in the stores and it's going to sell out. And after they run out, I could fill them up again. Yeah. And I don't need no record label. You control them the whole thing. And that money come all to you. I could just sell it. And he running his numbers up. I could sell it to everybody in Texas and be good. And he running his numbers up every time because at the end of the day, he calculating all that. The sales, the presses, the stuff you print. You running your numbers up. You running your numbers up. So now they can't stop him from going platinum, gold and all that. He's still going to do that. They didn't need to hire a lot of people. Where a lot, where a lot of, where a lot of everyone on it was, it got to the point to where the CDs got to, where anybody could press them up. Oh yeah. I remember them days too. And the Nielsen sound scan and stuff wasn't keeping up with all the sales that was going on. It wasn't just no doops. You could just, I don't care if you scan it or not. Just give me my $10. That's how it was. And a lot of people weren't getting credit for the actual albums that they wouldn't sell. They were getting the money. You think the numbers went up and people didn't get credit for it, is what you saying? Exactly. Like you wouldn't, you wouldn't get Nielsen sound. Like they got the RIA now that keeps up with how many singles and how much you selling right now. Back then it was Nielsen sound scan. And that's just whenever you scan that barcode, you know what I'm saying? That's when it was going to be like, okay, that's one album. They went towards your sales. Yeah. And then people had to physically get up out of their house and go buy that CD. Go buy that CD. Yeah, yeah. Right now you just roll up on your phone and down. And buy, yeah, download it. Or either you just listen to it on YouTube or just, you don't have to, because that's the different between my stream and buying it back then. Stream is just me listening to it. Yeah. It's not, I don't own it. I can just listen to it on YouTube or I can listen to it on Apple Music, but I ain't downloaded it. So those streams, like I think, I think that says like 1.5 billion streams equals platinum status now. And that would be gold. So that's like 750 million. As a manager, you gotta keep up with a lot of stuff, man. A lot of numbers. You was on the computer in here. I said, damn, this dude here acting like me, right? But how can you keep up with all of those sites and everything that's going on on all the numbers? Because you have to be watching out to making sure he getting paid for this, this, this, and he doing this and that. That's a lot. Yeah, well, you know, you gotta have a team. But at the same time, if you set up everything right, everything going to roll smooth. Everything done in order moves accordingly. Okay, you're right. It's going to fall right if you started right now. If you started wrong, I had a question. And I just thought about it. And I was so when I seen it, I was from the outside looking in. You know, I'm that guy. You go back and watch my video. I'm from the outside looking in. You know, I'm coming with something now. When when yellow BZ had God shot and I was I watched him. He was in the bed and I was like, dang, you know, he's watching BET and all this stuff. I was watching this at a hospital. Yeah, I'm watching him. Big fan. And then he came out and he was okay. He even did a little video. I know when you're going. I snuck that video. That was hot. I like that. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. We needed that. The city. Don't matter. You did it. It got done. And I could see why I could see that point of view too, though. But I understand yours as well. And now he always cherished that there. But the thing I wanted to ask you, I was upset about something. I know where you know, I already been asking everybody about this soup. When he came out, he did a show. I don't know where the show was. I don't know what he'd done the first show. You know all that. Don't care about that, really. I don't care about the show. What I care about is the number. He came out. He said he made $40,000 a show. That show. That's what he said. He texted this and then French Montana said, I make $200,000 or something like that a show. $100,000. I kind of know Puff Daddy do his stuff. But regardless, I felt like when he came out, I felt like why did they not push his numbers up because everybody wanted to see him at the time? Because of what he went through. I felt like his story, he was worldwide at that time. Matter of fact, the niggas at the bar shop said I was a fan. Niggas, shut up. You're a fan. He couldn't. I said, no, nigga. His worth was way higher to me at the time. You understand what I'm saying? Do you think I'm tripping? At the time, that was just like his after with that. He said I made this much. French Montana said I make this much. And then he was like, man, you know, like it was like they were talking. I said, I'm like, I'm a Texas dude. I'm every, I'm real sensitive about it. He showed the first show that he did after he got shot was one that it was booked that he posted it did. Before he got shot. And that's why our contracts probably were signing everything. I hate that. That didn't fall right for me. But now you're mine. But you got to look at it like this though. French Montana being in the game doing this thing. He was off him. But still, you know, you know, it's cool. But still, I'm from Texas, man. And I'm like, oh, nigga, we bigger than that. Nigga, don't worry. We shouldn't even let him get out there like that. That's what I was thinking. Even if you would that in 40,000, you do 40,000. Oh, don't you got to tell me. I know the numbers going to get right up anyway. But I was just like, man, I wanted him to go fast. You know, I just wanted, I didn't. I was like, man, why he quite come out like that? I didn't want to make 150,000, 200,000. And I didn't know what if he to say 20,000 or 40,000, I still wouldn't be upset. I just want to be on top. You know, man, we doing our thing. I like it. Now, y'all doing stuff. You know what I'm saying, man? Nobody in the city doing like y'all, bro. I know that already, you know? But I'm real sensitive about what I'm a fan of. Does that make sense? Man, I appreciate it. I wanted to get 100,000, too. I'm a business dude, too. So I'm thinking like, oh, no, we got to go build up. We cool with people like Dirk. Dirk getting like 100,000 right now. Yeah, Dirk getting it. Yeah, he getting it. But you know, you got to work. You say, look how long Dirk been in the game. No, no, he been in a long time. We went up to Chicago. Everybody just know the blonde hurt Dirk. No, no, no. I remember the other one. I remember Dirk had a hurt cut like this. I remember Dave's loaf, Dirk. Yeah, Dirk hurt Dirk had a cut like mine. I remember that. Like, it's different levels. So it's like, you know, you got to stand the test of time. A lot of folks, you know what I'm saying? That yellow still in it, bro. No, no. You know how long folks been working at work, please. Bro, it ain't going nowhere. That's what I'm saying, man. And on the coolest summer, we're cooking up real, real strong right now that it's brewing. It being look quiet just because it's something brewing. You know what I'm saying? Just, you know, when the tornado for the come, man, it get real still. No, no, no, I don't really know, man. I'm proud of y'all, man. I'm proud of everything y'all done did for the city. And thank you. That's what I do to them. Thank you. I appreciate you because I might not never get to say it. Tell y'all I said thank you. I appreciate the music, man. Oh, for sure. I'm for the coach. I've been Texas low down ever since I was a kid. Because of the way her life is. Tomorrow is never a promise. That's why I always say thank you. I might be honest. Thank you. Always give roses while they're here. That's why I do the play. I want to give y'all a plaque, but hey, man, you know, you'll have to get it to them or whatever. I'll give it right here, man. And you got to tell me, you the man, I got the man right here. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, nigga, I'm plugged in. Now, you're sitting there like a swimwear. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate you, man. Sometimes things happen. You don't even see them coming your way. You know what I mean? It just happens like that, bro. Good. And I just thank you for doing that. So let's get to this song a little bit. I don't see what you, what you how this sound. Because I know why I ate you up, man. Ate my new up like that. Oh, you did your thing. I stood up. I got it all wrong, man. Steven, man. You heard it? That's true of MJG, though. Yeah, yeah. My style, nigga, even trying to risk like me. Boy, Young Thugger made that trick. Stout is Young Thugger, man. I ain't seen him in a better way yet. Okay. Now, y'all got to realize it. Y'all in my club, too. Okay. Buy a body and get a gig in my club. This is easy. That's hot, man. I like the fact that I want to hear MJG part, too. Let me see what he's going to say. Pimp tight. He's going to say pimp tight on everything, man. You know I'm looking for that. You saw, man, you don't work with some people, bro. When you don't work with MJG and A-Ball, some niggas will never get to do that. See, that phase is going on, man. Luchy was on my first and my last album. You know, Luchy was here, like I said, the other day. He just left the show, man. And man, Dotsky G was on the same song on my first album. Really? Yeah. He haven't been talking to Dotsky G. I got to meet. I never met Dotsky G in person. Dotsky. I just met Luchy and his brother. His brother got a father out of town. I just met his brother, too. His brother was here. They look like, they look just like. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, too. Big stand-up guys, man. Real-life street nigga, man. Ready for the streets, right? Yeah, man. Dope, dope, dope, man. Everybody know dope being real, man. That's what's up, man. He pulled through on a real-life situation recently, man. Wow. Shout out to Dotsky G. That's what's up, man. That Dotsky G, I talked to him on the phone and he seemed real elevated, real down there. Nah, man. Dotsky G realized. Luchy, now Luchy set that up. He wanted us to talk, so that's what happened. You know, certain things. Pookie, too, man. Shout out to Pookie. Pookie just was here, too. Pookie, man. As a matter of fact, here's the drop-to-date. Say, Pookie rocked with us the strong way, man. Pookie's so flat, though. That nigga's so... That nigga play us hell, man. That nigga play us, man. He said to him, we wrote all day, too, man. He did it. He stayed. Him and Vida Loca was in. Because Vida Loca came on, and... He was kicking it, man. Yeah, same nigga. We had a good time. Yeah, Pookie, my dude, too, man. We just was all together, because, like I said, Ziggie made it. Made the track on Luchy album. Ziggie made it, boy. This boy here or something. I heard the tracks. That album came out today, you said? Which one? Now, that was the other day. That came out on 21st. 21st. I dropped his album. It was hard, too, man. The same day. I listened to it. Man, that boy going in. But, see, the boy had time to think, but he said he didn't write no deadlocked up. He said, I'll say it. He ain't never write. He's a Luchy, man. I'll tell you something about Luchy. What did he do to you at the studio, bro? Him and Doshka used to come in there with no pen and no pad. Luckily, I'd not already laid my verse down and they got there. You know what I'm saying? But, dude, come in there. They just punched in. They ain't punching in either. It's crazy. They did. They'd bite and they, man, right in the head going there and wouldn't take it. I was like, come on, bro. Are you serious? Luchy for real, man. But they, man, they saw a mess in the city, man. That's why I love Dallas, man. I love what we bring into the table. I gotta give. I gotta give. I gotta shout out to all my dudes. It's really, I heard really making a jump, man. So, you know, especially from my era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why you think my show like it is. Now I got you, man. It's all working out, man. All things work together for the good for them that love God and called according to His purpose. That's real, right? That's real, baby. You know what I'm saying? So, we good over here. We doing the things of right because we love God. And so, I know that's why it's going to pop. I know that's why it's going in. You know what I'm saying? So, how many artists do you have right now? Managing. Managing. Under PMG. Managing. I got by like five. Five. But as of right now, what we got coming up the bat, of course, is Yellow's new album. And Jose Bodega. Yeah, yeah. Jose Bodega got Mr. Bodega. How's the album? How's the sound? You haven't heard it already. Bodega is the city's most slept on. And he got Mr. Bodega out right now. And he going to come out with Deluxe. Probably, I think we were talking about May 17th. Okay, it says right around the corner. We got a defamation of character coming after that. And then I also have Misha. She's a female artist. You keep up with all this stuff. You don't have any R&B. Man, you're 13 years, man. R&B artists? I don't have any R&B right now. No, I don't. At the time. Because right now, the game is kind of merged. If you a rapper, you a singer. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's true. That's true. Hold on. That's true. That's true. The R&B guys. I have something to say about that. I agree. They be talking about R&B, but I'm just not with that autotune. Here she goes. And that's what everyone wants. But that's so bullshit. R&B dudes doing autotune. I know everybody's doing autotune. And the R&B dudes singing about rapper stuff. I know it. I love natural talent. Because I always felt like autotune could make you sound good when you're really not that great. Yeah, because everybody's really not that great as a singer, but they want to sing. Right now. That's what's going on. So what you going to do? Put autotune on it. And this is why they accept it. It's not going to work. They loving it. Because they tried to kill it. Jay Z tried to kill it. It didn't happen. He killed T-Pain. That's what he did. Oh, T-Pain. T-Pain. But everybody was around with it, man. Because I don't know when it came out in the beginning. I loved the way he was doing it. And the nigga could sing. But see, that's the difference. T-Pain can actually sing. Yeah. Yeah, he can. Yeah. They screwed him over. Yeah, but you know. I ain't like that. That's the game. That's Jay. Jay's something else. He love to talk. Well, see, Jay just would come from the old school. Man, Jay going to flip something on you, man. Listen, listen. Jay came from, I said, Jay my dude, man. I like Jay. I like Jay, but not like I like. You know, I'm a PMC fan. Not trying to put him against each other. Yeah, but see, that's. But listen, I'm from the South. And I'm going to be on which he come down. And he showed us love. But at the end of the day, you know. That's peas and carrots, man. That's right. That's oranges and apples. That's right. That's right. You got to have. I'm from the South. You know that now. I'm from the South, too. Oakville, Texas. But I still rocks. What's, you know what I'm saying? If you, if you just listen to my music. I listen to Jay-Z. If you listen to my music. I'm going to listen to your music. You would know. You will understand. Yeah. I'm going to listen to a couple of Jay-Z. Because I'm a Southern dude. I'm UGK. I'm, I'm, I'm. A-Bot, I'm Jay-Z. I'm Scarface. But you respect the art. But I respect the pen. I respect lyricism. That's all? Yeah. That's right. I get it. And lyricism don't got no geographical location. I agree. But we do talk different. We do. Talk, different lingo. It's the same message every time. I agree. Sure. I agree. The message, the message is hitting, hitting the same. I got, I got, I got like a look. East, back in the game, the East Coast guys had a little smarter way of saying some street shit. In their own eyes. In their own minds. It was, it was a little bit more clever. I'm going to be honest with you. In their own minds. To me. Like listen to me. Southern guys kind of just went straight to the point with it like him. He wasn't heavy on the lyricism. But he going to hit you in the mouth with some facts. Like this though. Like head on is where you can't do nothing but respect it and love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's kind of like some Southern shit. You know what I'm saying? We kind of straight to the point. But you do have some like like Burn early on in UGK. He was like one of the hardest lyricists. But I think honestly, I think when Pimp C went to jail, he kind of dumbed it down just a tad to kind of, you know, keep up with the times. But at first, like 98 before. Boy, I like this conversation down there. 98 on before. I love when they go to town by UGK. Killing everything. Man, what you saying? Murder. I'm listening to you. Shut up. Check out the features. Like he want to talk about A-Ball, solo album, Bal and Burn. Listen, man. The Burn B-Verse on Bal and Burn. Come on, man. This the news. I think he said flipping flows forever signed like Diamond Grape's on Leather Vine. What you saying, man? Come on, man. That's what I'm about to say. Pimp say I wish I were a rubber. I wish I could say I roll a rubber every time. But if I told you that, then you know that I'd be lying. Shut up. Shut up. Texas nigga. No, that's, you know, I just, I know the platform. I just know that New York don't need no help. East Coast don't need no help. No, no, no. Now they still, they still got all the stuff that it take to make the movement happen. They still hold a lot of the offices and the stuff that they're doing. You see what I'm saying? And there ain't nothing wrong with that. But like, man, a lot of that shit been L.A. now, man. A lot of that shit be in Atlanta now. And I know you know more than me because you having to move to B. Because you still got to go to New York for a press run and shit like that. That's what I was saying. You got to do it. But at the same time, man, you know, you can control this shit from anywhere because of the worldwide. That's why we're here now. I'm for the rock around, baby. We pulling it in. You can control this shit from anywhere, bro. Yeah, yeah. It's the worldwide web, man. So you can be, you got niggas getting popping from Kentucky right now. Now you say you, wait a minute, let me go back. You say you and you met Yella early on. Y'all both grew up together, kind of. You older than him. Yeah, I probably got Yella brought eight, nine years. Okay. The same age as my nephew. So really, he was the first one you managed. Yeah, he was the first one. First one you managed. And when did you know we got something real different? I know we had something before I started managing them because I was the artist and he was the artist too. So we were just kind of moving together. Okay. But then it came to a point in time where he got to moving too fast and somebody had to take care of his shit. Oh, so you was like, what did he say? Hey, man, you, hey, man, hey, you gonna have to look out? I would just point. Oh, you just did it. Like you wanted to do it. Somebody else was managing them at first. They denounced their position and I just took over. Okay. So the thing, I mean, I said that because when it starts speeding up or when you start trying to figure, he's like, dang, we got something. We got to try to lock in and make sure that's right. Y'all smart to even do that though. Yeah. You know, because that black, black folks, you can come on, man. You know how I feel. Yeah, you know, but that was a little bro, man. You know, it was a given that if somebody was gonna touch it, it was gonna be you. It was gonna be you. That's hard, man. I mean, that's cool. That's really, that's good to know. I still say it's God. You know how I think. It is. It's crazy too, man, because it's connections too in that. And I look at it now after, you know what I'm saying? Everything happened. You know, like I told you earlier, my mom passed like 22. Yeah, yeah. Well, her birthday is October 22nd. Okay. It's yellow birthday too. Wow. Same day. So it's like confirmation. And then another thing is my mom passed on March 15th. Okay. And there's yellow mama birthday. Wow. And his baby mama birthday. Wow. I said, man, it's just crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's, it's certain things that where God just touched you a little bit that you know. No, those numbers, man. You know what I mean? It's just too many connections right there. So I was like, man, you know, it's just, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the way you move and the way your business and the conversation we have. And to be honest with you, man, you know, I think it's real. Yeah, yeah. So do you prefer being a manager rather than being an artist? Yeah, I do. Is it less stressful? No, it's not less. Different type of stress, right? A lot of tedious stuff. But I think as an artist, you have pretty much the same amount of stress or even more because the pressures of being a hot artist, man. You know, sometimes you're living in the in the limelight and you're living to where you get under a microscope and everybody's looking into your personal life and everything that you got going on. So that's what I don't like. Yeah, yeah. No, I can still go to the grocery store. I like the way you move. I just told you that. I'm watching all that. Everything you say. I can still walk in the mall, man. I still can go, you know what I'm saying? Without being bombarded. No, he can't too, but, you know, he's going to be a crowd here and crowd there. It's hard, it's hard, bro. It's hard, brother. He can't do that. And the bigger he get is going to be my bigger crowd. So he was in the airport, man. And he got on Durek. They figured it out. They figured it out. Had a man. So this is all you see of him. They still know who it was. He ain't trying to hide like that. It's just how his man is. Listen, man, I met Yellow Wright coming out of Charleston. I was leaving and he was coming. Shout out to Charleston. Yeah. And I was like, shout out to Charleston. That's my guy. Yeah, Big T. Charleston. I'm hollering here. Yeah. Charleston, I'm hollering here. Boy, I got to mess with him right there when I see him. So I see him and we just kind of dabbed this before everything took off too. It was just kind of at the, you know. Y'all were still rocking. Y'all been up for everything. And he was just so respectful, man. That day I was like, man, that dude, I knew, you know, far as the way he carried himself. He by himself too. It was just me and him. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. Early on, man, he understood that the fans was amazing. Yeah. I just recognized like, man. You know, never denied nobody no pictures. Even when I didn't see him when he was sick, you know what I'm saying? Wasn't feeling too well. We in the airport and trying to go to the next show or whatever. He never denied fan access to him. Wow. That's love, man. Like I said, I knew, I remember Buster said that on here too. Money Moses. Money Moses was like, I tried to do this. No, it wasn't. It was Isaiah. It was Z. What he said? Say he tried. Remember you? He was like, he was like, he tried. He was like, man, I asked y'all to do a little drop for me on Zeeq TV. And he just did it like that. He said, and he named some other people that he asked to do certain things for Zeeq TV. That's my cousin. He over there at Bruin. Bruin Bazaar. Bruin Bazaar. And he was like, they didn't do it. But as soon as I asked, yellow, he was like, let's do it. Hey, man, if you're catching one here in the working environment, you can do whatever you need to be doing. You know what I mean? Let's do it. If you're trying to catch one, we feel to get in the car. Don't be trying to do all that. You got to burn off. No, no, I didn't get it. It's all about the safety at the time. No, no, no, I didn't. Let him talk to you. Nobody, nobody, nobody. Hold on. We need to get in this car right now. I think you're doing a good job. That's your job. Yeah. You better do it. You got to do it. You got to make the right decisions and move right. That's important in this day and time for sure, man. So you going to go there? Yeah. No, I have another question before we go there. Since you manage both men and women, do you have any preferences? Is it easier to manage a guy than a woman or vice versa? I just started managing a woman, female. Ma, you got your work cut out for you this year? This year. You got your work cut out for you this year? You know what? Actually, man, it's kind of been easy. Easy? I'm talking about the makeup and the hand pampering and all that stuff. You know, that's how you got to do is hire somebody to do that. But, you know, and then it's easy. She do a lot of that herself. But, yeah, it's kind of easier than what I thought it was. But then at the same time, I'm just not starting with it. It's all right. You're going to handle this, man. Amen. Amen. Listen, man, great is he that's in you, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She's moving, man. She got a little old, she got a CD coming out called Big Mesh EP. She got a little tour going on. That's good. About a 10-CD tour right now. That's what's up. So how do how do how do somebody get to be managed by you? Well, I always tell people this. How can I get to be managed by little dudes? I always tell people you can't find me. I got to find you. That's what they say. That's what they say. Like, don't bother me. Don't deal me. How fine said the same thing. Same thing. Most likely when a manager or somebody discovers talent is not in it. It don't never follow that. Sometime they do it. You got to go seeking that talent. Wow. You got to do something to stick out. Where do you look? Do you look on Instagram, on YouTube? YouTube and stuff. Yeah. So you stay on the site. See, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes I got. What do you hashtag to look for? I got ANRs, too. For my management. You do? That's how I kind of came across Misha. Misha. I got what I call body snatchers. Boy, you tough, man. Yeah, they go after it. They go get them. Yeah, they go get them. Is there a certain hashtag you use? Because body snatchers. Hashtag, body snatchers. No. No. Coming people listening and, you know, I want to be discovered. They want to make sure, okay, I have this correct hashtag, so he can see my video or he can't see it. He ain't going to be hashtagging. Now he just looking. Yeah, I just go through it. Just go through. Sometimes it's the talk of people. And then, you know what I'm saying? Like go hollering at these people and say, if you represent it by management or not, and I feel like we can make something happen, then come have a seat at my office. What would you tell the guy who wanted to be a manager that's young, you know, he's young. As a matter of fact, he's about 18. And he want to manage artists. Matter of fact, we met one here the other night, this 18-man manager. Build up your network so when you do start getting you some clients, you can have some channels to run them through. Start out building up your network and you start doing that by being in the places to be, meeting people. Meeting people. You got to, as a manager, I learned that you just got to talk to people and see what they do. And then once you build up your network, I mean your network basis, then you got something to run your artist through. Then after that, you need to research everything about the game. As much as you can before you start. Because once you, you know what I'm saying? Got your little old lay down, you can run everything through your channel. Wow. Do you ever try to train somebody? I think you explained that belt to a lot of people. You know what I'm saying? Like you know this, he explained the hell out there, didn't he? You really gave a platform where that's a blueprint if you really think about it. Just put your network together and do your research. Yeah. To get all the time. And YouTube and YouTube. Have anybody ever asked you on them youngsters to say, hey man, how can I get the manager? Okay, can I be a manager? I don't mention a few people. Okay, that's good. I get a game away all the time. That's good. Especially in Dallas. That's why you're growing. That's why you bless. People lack the business. So anybody that come up to me, you feel like they need to know something. If I can get it to you, I get it to you. Wow. That's hot. I'm going to give it to you. That's hot? Man, go ahead. No, you do my question. I was going to ask you about Mentor. I'm good. Yeah, I'll be going in. If he has ever mentored anybody. But you already took it. I know what I'm saying. Like, I got a shout out to my boy, Pimp Skinny, man. You know what I'm saying? Pimp Skinny is an inspiring manager. Well, actually, he's managing. I can't say he's inspiring. Shout out to my partner, Carl Watts. Heavy hitters management with me. Heavy hitters, man. I like that. Heavy hitters in the building. Shout out to... It's a couple of dudes, man. A lot of time, I don't just mention managers. I mention artists, too. Yeah. But I got little folks, man. Yeah. You ain't got to be under my management company. I just want to see you do it. You just want to help them. That's good. That's how come you bless? Yeah, because you can't hate on nobody else, even if they're the same category that you are. You have to just wish good for other people, too. You know what I'm... I learn more and more every day that we've been doing this damn podcast, man. That these people, like the ones who... On the forefront, don't get me wrong, it's a special group of people needed to these people. The ones we've been dealing with, been the ones who really do the back... Behind the scene. Behind the scene. And they all be humble and good dudes. And you got to have that, bro. That pain a little runny, little dude. You got to have that. Shout out to Top Off, man. Pop off. Whoa, whoa! Top off. That boy's been coming through. Boy, they little boss talk 101. That ain't gonna lie. Top off. But it's the same thing that they said behind every successful man. Oh, here we go. You know, they just... You right, baby. You ain't never lying. You is right. I'm gonna preach. Yeah. Talk your shit. You better talk it because you definitely right. But anyway, man, let me move on, man. While I'm over here caking. So how many kids you got, man? I have four. Four kids. That's what's up. They tough. Yeah. Do they mind? Oh, yeah. Ain't that one of them in the wild? Except my baby boy. Don't that be funny too, you know? He good, but he like a... He ain't got no feel to me. He testing you. He just testing you. Yeah, you know, all them kids that were born... That baby boy, it makes... ...in 2010, you know, they different. You know what? You talking about kids. I know you said your son just moved in with you. Yeah. So... Older son. Your oldest son. So, and I've always said that men, especially when boys are a certain age... They need to be with their dad. They need to be with their dad. That's what she said. I had to fight for them. That's good. Because a man needs to teach a boy how to be a man. You need to teach them a lot of things that they need to know. Women... Because I've always hated hearing women. I hear a lot of women say, Oh, I'm daddy and mama to this child. To this boy. But how are you going to teach this boy how to be a man? And you're a woman. You can't do it. You can't do it. You can try. You can bring the other dudes around. They don't care. They just do it for you. They're dealing with the kids. They don't want to deal with the kids. I can promise you they don't. They don't want to deal with the kids. They just do it for the hell of it. Man, I just like to... You know what I'm saying? Oh, no. I see a responsibility in the community, man. And even if it's not my kids, I just like to drop jewels on them, man. Because sometimes they just don't know. Or either they probably do got their parents in their life, but they might be too busy trying to case the chick to keep them lights on and everything. And they just misguided, man. So whenever I see some of them, and you know what I'm saying? I try to pull that cold tail every now and then and give them a little game, you know what I'm saying? I'm also starting like a nonprofit, too. This coming this year, too, to where I'm trying to get like... Because one thing I noticed about my son at his school, they got video and audio programs. They're at the high school. But you know what I'm saying? You know, you go to the inner city, like where I'm from. They don't have that. They don't got those type of programs. So I'm trying to start some things like that to get with these school districts, to really put things like that in the community because... Kids listen to music. It's a lot of videographers. It's a lot of kids that's inspired to be producers and managers and rappers, man, other than just sports, man. So you got to put these type of facilities to let those things flourish in these kids, man, because it's just not happening right now. So we need to make that happen. Just because you don't live in a suburb don't mean you shouldn't have an opportunity, like a suburb kids got. But that was awesome because when his son did say that he went to that type of class there, I was like, really? They had that in high school? Yeah. I thought that was amazing. That's dope. That's dope, that's fine. He's fortunate enough to go to a good school district, but you know, everybody... Everybody doesn't have to. I didn't go to a good school district. You know what I'm saying? So I'm trying to bring that back to mind. I went to a racist school district. I'm from the country. Okay, yeah. Yeah, a black man didn't have no chance. Yeah, you know, that was kind of equivalent to good school districts in the suburbies and bad school districts in the hood, in the city, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Same shit, man. So, you know, I grew up just having a regular, you know, you would look if you had homic. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, homic was, that was it right there. That was it. We had a good time there. Woodshop. They could make a name. Woodshop. How are you going to make some money out of this? You can't, but... Everybody ain't going to quit. Some people, I guess, on Pinterest. Everybody don't want to make no carpenters, man. Carpenters. Ain't no carpenters coming out in 2019. They don't, we got real wood no more around this bitch. Nobody don't really want them. No black carpenters. Come on, he ain't got a word about nobody getting their fingers styled out with his glass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't even want to do that kind of work. Just put these kids in an audio visual place. That's what they want. To enhance what they really do. And they're going to really get out. They're going to flourish. They're going to really get out. And because they, and my kid was a real, real, real testament of what I'm saying is, once they get something that they really, really dig deep into and passionate about me and they graze a shoot up, you know what I'm saying? That's hot. They'll try to stay out of trouble for this. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. You know, they can see the potential of making money. They probably can make some money right then. Probably can shoot somebody video right then. Probably can do somebody beat right then just because they got the equipment. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. And they can make some money right then. As a high school student. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Kind of agree. So, you know, it's sharpening up their hustle plus it's educating them, man. You know what I'm saying? But they should also teach them the business side of it. Exactly. In the class too. And see, I'm putting all of that into, I'm trying to put all of that into, like, you know, a community center that teaches things like that. And also, man, just game kids up on, like, credit and stuff like that. That's one thing I do with my son. They don't teach at school at all? No, they don't. My daughter said that. Yeah. You know, she's my mom. First thing they do, the first thing they do when you turn 18 is send you a credit card. Yes. And what you gonna do? Go to the mall and tear it up. I think we talked about that. What's that? I ain't gonna tear it up. Yeah, with Shamar. We talked about it. Yeah. Go to the mall. With Shamar? Shamar, yeah. My daughter. Okay. She's 15. Yeah, I thought you was talking about it. She talked about school not being, don't teach her the stuff that's going to take her anywhere. But she makes straight A's. She an all-gifted class. See, and she... But she don't even like it. She understands, but we push her. We give her economical books. We give them. We make her read different books. She's on it now, so... Oh, she's been hustling her whole life. Yeah, but she's gonna be good. She's gonna flip. But she said the only reason she's going to university is for networking. Yeah, exactly. She said that's on that kid. She's smart. Yeah, that's it. Early on. She gets it. What's going on here? She gets it. But I was talking to a friend of mine. I'm like, man, when I was thinking about going to college, I wasn't thinking... These kids look up college and look at how much these kids' families make that goes to these colleges. So they pick their colleges, depending on the network capabilities. You know what I mean? That's what they were sitting down and talking about because I heard them. And I'm like, dang, I wasn't thinking like that. This is the information age. Yeah, yeah. We couldn't even probably find that out. We couldn't even pull it out. Yeah, yeah, they could pull it out. I be telling my son all the time, man. You walk around with everything you need to know in your pocket. That's it, man. You know what I'm saying? As much as you want to go Google or YouTube, that funny video or that crazy TikTok video, you can go do something that's constructed. The same information that you need to know about anything you want to do is right there. It's as your fantasy. Anything you want to do. Back to the music. Top three artists of all time. Dead or Alive. Any genre. See, I don't hear y'all do this. No, no, I'm not gonna let y'all do this. You gotta give me three. Only three. No, no, no. I'm not for to go. I'm for to do it real quick. I'm for to do it separate because I can't give you all genres in one list. I just need three. You can keep it all wrapped if you want to. That's what we're gonna do. Because if we're gonna do it all wrapped, we're gonna do it all wrapped. We're gonna do our soul music. That's your choice. We're gonna do our R&B. He said I heard y'all do it himself. That's your choice. Y'all ain't gonna make me do it. However you want to do it, just give us three. Three. I'm gonna go least the greatest. Okay. That's him. But y'all something else, right? Let me see. I'm gonna do we're gonna do rap. Okay. Three. All time, right? All time. Dead or alive. Dead or alive. Okay. So number three, we'll have to be. And it's your ear. You know, you done done music. So you know, I mean, I don't go by, I go by what what I hear. And you know, I always say that. Number three, we'll have to be outcast. Okay. And number two? Number two, we'll have to be a tie between. I'm not doing that with you. He ain't meddling. That's how he know you're meddling. He not do tie. He messin' with us, man. Two gotta be a tie between you and you. You can't, I don't know if you can. You either have to put one of them to be a number three ball. Number one. Number one. And I went with your wife and I was like, man, I want you to do it. No. I want you to do it, man. No. I need this on another podcast. I don't know if I can do it. UGK gonna be a number one. MG. MG. MG and A-Ball. Everybody. My wife is gonna miss the rap. MGG. MGG and A-Ball. Do it like that, man. Do it like that, man. No, okay, so look, because I gave all groups. Okay, all right, that's what I'm gonna do. All right. You flip it, you flip it. Yeah, so, so, three, this rap groups. Three outcasts, two. That's the first time somebody did groups. He think he gonna... A-Ball and J.G. Okay. And one UGK. That's my guy. Yes, son, you see it? Now you see how strong y'all we are doing. That's it, that's it. We done. Listen, listen, man. That boy say UGK, M-J-G-A-Ball. Is it? All you had to say was UGK. But that boy say UGK, man. All you had to say was UGK for him. I want y'all to respect Texas, man, for what these guys... Look, they done that, man. We come from nothing, man. They didn't recognize us at first. Shout out Bun. Man, Bunby, I'm trying... That's who I'm trying to get on with. Man, man, wow. That guy just left here. He worked with PMC, man. Yeah, yeah. That was heavy. We had some... That was a good show. I enjoyed it, man. Yeah, yeah. I just want to talk about old stuff sometimes. I'm old, man. Yeah, yeah. I love the fact that he worked with those guys like that. KLC and PMC did some monumental... Monumental hits. You know I enjoyed it, don't you? Break them off. Oh, man. I was in this thing, man. Listen, man. I was in here, man. I was gone. I always... I be having a good time, man. Yeah. I be gone in a little in the nick of crazy. Say it, man. You know, shout out to KLC and Beats by the Pan. Man, them boys heavy, man. They gave us a lot of... I thanked them, man, just like I thank you. Yeah. Like, I know already what you're doing. I see the movement, man. Without you, it don't happen. Oh, for sure. So, I enjoyed that, man. I appreciate that, bro. And I thank you for doing it with the city, man. And I know already you got the right mindset. Yeah, man. That you out here... You out here trying to create something special. Say, man, you know, we're trying to create opportunities for people to keep on... You know, what I'd like to do for rap, man, is... It's a catapult you to bigger and better things. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's equivalent to how sports work. You know what I'm saying? You know, like how I could take it, you know, take you out the hood and give you some money to get rich into other things. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's about the kids so much, man. Yeah, man. You know, even the rap music, all that stuff is evolving around the young, high youth. You said it. You say they all want to be rappers. They all want to... Speaking to KLC and B.C. by the pound. I was looking at a Master P interview today. What is it? And he was talking about... It was on the Breakfast Club. And he was talking about... DJ Envy asked him about Black Rob. Black Rob just paying. Yeah, he did. All right, people are right. Everybody kind of was getting that diddy about... Because it was hard. I think it was homely. You know, on the house or something like that. And they were just pointing the fingers that did it and did it and did it. But like, you know what I'm saying? He said, why ain't nobody mad at Jimmy Irving? Did it just the middleman? These men right here is the one that's really, really good. So, like the sports... I love Pete. He can always put it out there. Like the sports world has created a space for people when they get into the league, what to do with their money. That's why you see... Sometimes you see athletes fall off after they lead a league. But most of the time you don't see it anymore because you have people in place that are financial advisors. Now they don't have that in rap. They don't have that in the music industry, period. But you got youngsters that's 16 that come from the hood that never had shit just like niggas in the goddamn NFL. You're right. Or in the NBA. You're right. So they need those financial advisors. You're right. You're right. So they need to come up with a union within these labels. This nigga here is serious, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to tell you, the nigga here, man, you really be thinking. You're thinking outside of the box, man, trying to figure out a way to do something monumental for our people, man. He's not for just himself. He ain't thinking about himself. He just thinks about the whole condo, man. I love that. I like it, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, bro. The show, man. I just, you know... You coming back though, right? I ain't know how it's going to be. Don't matter. You hear a nigga or two. We here together. We family now. That's what I'm saying. You coming back. We staying ready. We staying ready. We got to come back with Ziggy. I want to bring back something up. I got another producer guy. Oh, you got to do it, Tim. Hey, E, you going to have a number in a minute. You just, hey, E, I'm going to send this on whatever you have. You want to do it. That's the way we're going to do it. On the 25th, he'll be back with his album. Yeah, we're going to rock out. Hey, yo, Ziggy, you made this. Hey. Did you tell you that? Oh, he told... No, he didn't tell me that. He didn't tell us his name. He didn't tell me my name. Like, you just hit that on hard, too. Hey, yo, Ziggy, you made this. That was hot. And I also managed producers in a minute. What happened? Ziggy made it. It was one of the producers. DJ Isis is the other producer. He like giving me a hard time, man. Thank you so much. Hey, yo, Ziggy, you made this. He has an album coming out where he's not rapping. He's just making all the beats. That's hot. And he got some hot featured artists on him. He got every big hitter from the city that you could think of, OGs, Season, people, and young artists. So it's going to be a good project. Probably by like 10, 11, 12 track projects. We got to do this. I need you to say something else. How... Yeah, let's talk about it. Yeah, so what's your handle? How can we get a hold of you, man? Somebody's trying to reach out to you to try to get... I know everybody be looking at 3D different social media platform. Yeah, you know, man, you know, Instagram is at L-O-W-D-E-E-Z-I-E, you know what I'm saying? L-O-D-Z. And my Facebook or whatever is, you know, my government name, Adrian and Brian. You're old, you got a Facebook. You know, young boy, they don't... They look at us like... So I'm going to tell you something about Facebook, though. See, people sleep on Facebook because that's the best analytic data you can gather and push. And the only way you can do sponsors ads on Instagram is if they synced through your Facebook. Wow. Yeah, you're right. You do know. I know that. I do it. That's what I'm saying. You're exactly right. You can be... You can think of all that you want to do. Don't get that money! Facebook said you're going to have to come highlight them, man, because you want to promote on Instagram. That's called Facebook on Instagram. Yes, sir. So that's the game. So the thing I say, man, thank you for coming on the show. And I appreciate you, man. Hey, man, tell y'all love. Hey, man, I love what he's doing. I love what you guys doing over there. Sure, for sure. And I've been... Man, ever since I came out with the show, that's what I've been chatting over here, too. That's why I ain't just being fake. See, you can go back and look at my shows. You're going to say, that nigga been doing that the whole time. Yeah, we appreciate you. Because I just... I don't care. I go by how I feel. That's like the UGK PMC thing. I just go by how I feel. And I don't care what a nigga think. I just go by how I feel. What did the PMC say? I'm going to tell you how I feel. And that's the way you're supposed to go, nigga. You know what I'm saying, man? Hey, man, thanks for coming by, man. 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