 Welcome to Toffy TV, it is the footy show daily live, live if you're on page. It is live if you're on page. So if you're on page and you're watching and you want to get in touch with us, what we're talking about, get in touch in the comments. Today it looks like, in terms of the situation with going back to playing football, the players have been given all the relevant information. Is there 40 page documents? 40 page documents, yeah. Of how it's all going to happen? Well on training protocols. Is that what it is training protocols? They met this morning, the captains of the 20 stakeholders, which is the Premier League clubs, the PFI. Must have been some screen, not on Zoom, must have been. The boxes must have been really small. So they've had that meeting today. They've set out 40 page documents on training protocols. Each club was represented on the video conference by the captain. So yeah, PFI reps were also in the meeting club. The club captains attended the meeting, including Henderson McGuire, Aspel Aquetta, Mark Noble and Troy Dini. Maybe they're the PFI reps, that's why they've named Troy Dini. Players will drive to training in their kit alone in their cars. Temperature will be checked at the entrance of the training ground. They'll park in a designated space, three spaces away from anyone else. No food at the training ground. Training in a group of five for a maximum of 75 minutes. They'll be encouraged to wear a mask or a snood. No tackling or spitting will be permitted. Everything on the pitch will be disinfected, including the pitch. The ball, the goalposts, the cones and the training equipment. Players must maintain social distancing at all times. If players are injured, they will be treated by a physio wearing PPE, which at minimum must include a mask, gloves and an apron. After training players will drive straight home. They're going to be tested twice a week and have a mini medical check for any underlying respiratory or cardiac issues. All players will be tested in the 48 hours before they train. Forum players returning to England will not be allowed in the training ground for 14 days. The aim is to make the Premier League training grounds the safest in the country. We've all clubs have to have a designated Covid-19 officer. A lot of stuff as you'd expect. We spoke about it yesterday. We spoke about players that were feeling the situation. This sounds like, well, obviously this is there to put their fears at rest. If you were a player with a document like that, that would make me feel happier because of the temperature testing and obviously you're still social distancing. You're very much isolated then you're outside. I think if I was a player, I'd probably be looking at that thinking, well, they've done the homework. They're trying to make us as safe as possible. I suppose the question is not, is it worthy? It's more like should we rather than can we? I don't know how many professional footballers that will enter the mind of. Do you know what I mean? I think that's maybe some of them who are, I don't know, you've got the people they're with, the captains or the PFA representatives. They've got to think about it like that. I just wonder if a young player, like teens, early 20s, if it's captain, captain says, you know, we think it's safe and that person hasn't got any issues at home in terms of other people being sick or whatever, then I imagine the majority will get on with it. Yeah, I mean, I watched a scene Roy Hodgson talking yesterday about it and he was like, I can't. The minute he told me I can go back, I'm going back. It was on keys and grey and they were like, you know, you're 72. So you're in a age bracket that's obviously, you've got to be more concerned about it. And he was like, nah, nah, I'm fit. He said I've built me fit in the shop. That's a nonsense attitude. I think you'll find a lot of that. You'll find that in football, you will, mate. That's nonsense. It doesn't matter if he's fit or what. This idea that people can, you see it from, say, I've seen it online, people going, it won't get me because I'm super fit. You've no idea. And I appreciate him saying I'm taking all the precautions, but having some kind of idea that I'm super fit. I don't think he was saying super fit. I think he was just saying, I look after myself. I'm quite fit now that I want to go back to work. I could get other stuff. Do you know what I mean? That would stop me going to work or whatever. So I understand that. He's 72, so his outlook will be very much old. I hear Andy Gray on it. Andy Gray's 61 or 62, whatever he's like. I'd go. I'd have to test and I'd want to play because anything can happen to me. Anyway, I want to play. If they're making it fit. Britain, you're looking at it. No, no, no. That's a selfish attitude. That's a very selfish attitude. No, no. I'm fine because I'm fine. That's not... There's other people. This is the whole point. But if you're a player, if you're a footballer living on your own, why wouldn't you go to training? No, I'm not... I'm not rwy Hodgson. I'm not someone anyone else. I'm not rwy Hodgson. That's a selfish attitude to have because he's got a wife. He might see his grandkids. I don't know, but I think that's a selfish attitude to have that I'm okay because I'm okay. That doesn't come into it. But he will be getting tested and will be. I don't think he should be allowed back. I don't care. I don't care. I think that's where for me he crosses the line. He's in his 70s. What about our manager? Well, our manager is not in his 70s. Well, he's not in the demographic. 60s to 69s, is it? It's not in the demographic. My dad could go to work now. My dad can't pull himself in. My dad could go to work now. But my dad can't pull himself in. My dad can't pull himself in. But my dad can't pull himself in. My dad can't pull himself in. I've seen it. The risk has massively increased. Well, I'm just selling you what Roy Alton said he was a manager, football manager, and it really involves him. Because he's in that category. What if our manager was 70, would you be concerned for our manager to be backing football? I don't know. I would, because I'd be thinking well it's... It's not the same as us doing it. No, I know, but we can't... He's got medical people on site. Felly, felly dyddu, yw'n teimlo i'n fwy fysdd fel hynny'n gallu cyngorau i'r adües. A dyna'r problemau sydd wedi gwybod y pwgynggweithio cyngor o'r melyrieddau sydd wedi digwydd. Roedd y gallwn yn cryysiau, dyna'r bunaw, rwy'n ei wneud o'r fan amddangos cilydd. Felly, dyna'r problemau, rydym ni'n beth sydd â ddim yn mynd yn y meddwl, mae'n meddwl i'r peirio, oherwydd o'i adrwyntau. Yn meddwl i'n meddwl i'r adrwyntau, rhoi y gallwn gweld awyr yn addol. Y dweud i amdano ac mae'n cyd- mae'n gwerthu i'r mewn ythafod o'ch cyfrifiannig a'r rhai ffordd ac mae'n ffordd i'n gwesiant. Mae hwn yn gwybod i mi oedwbi o ffordd yn 35 yw viaf a'r ffordd yn 40. Maer, mae'n gweithio ddydd yn drwy gwyl. Mae'r bentyn yn ein bod y ddydd yn ei flynyddiad, dar- Yn oed. Yn oed, mae'n rhaid i yw 19 oedd, mae'n cyflaen o'r atlant, rydyn ni'n ddaid i'r Ffraddd, 19 oed. Yn oed, yn yr aein, a'n gyntaf o'r gondol. Ac mae'n siarad am y bydd, mae'n siarad, mae'n gweinio i'r allan o'r adegau, ond y cwld, a'n ffordd, i'r rhoi hodg yn yr adegau, i'n meddwl ar ôl, yn credu'r adegau ym mhob arall. Yn oed yn cymryd o'r adegau, mae'n adegau atlant, they twice as likely to die, so it's no wonder the likes of Danny Rose and people like that are concerned. But I suppose alls they can do is follow the science in this, isn't it? Follow the information from the medical people. If the medical people, those captains are sat round in that meeting… No, but there are players that I appreciate that. I appreciate players. Ac ydych chi'n gwo Síg yng Nghaennau? Cywethaf maen nhw, mewn 72-yrdd yr oed. Rydych chi wedi'i gwneud, mae yma. Ychydig fod y mae… Ydwch chi'n gwo, efallai chi wedi'i gofai, gyda chimaking yma. Ychydig fod mae yma mgwllfa yma gyda'r maes gone ond o boel. Rwy'n i'n meddwl. Mae'n f Gasai i gweithio'n meddwl yna. Yn nid gweithi. A fod os maen nhw y gallai clywed? Mae'n majd. Mae'n explainedeth efo'r leidio arall. Rhaid i fy ngyfrez. Mae'n mynd i'r lleidio efo'r lleidio. Mae os maen nhw y gallai clywed efo'r conversions nowedais. Mae'n mynd i'raufen. Mae'n mynd i fferdd y gyrdd. Pa byddwn Iles. Mae'n mynd i'n mynd i'ch meddwl. Mae'n mynd i'ch meddwl i'ch meddwl i'ch meddwl. Mae oedd yng Nghymru. Roedd nhw y gallai'ch meddwl i'ch meddwl? pen am mlu yn y ddechrau'n siŵr. Ond mae'r cofwyr ydw i wedi bod o'n sétio'n sétio, o'r amser i ddechrau. Roedd I wedi digon i, Roedd y cyfraeie lu'n yr ysgol, a'r peth yn i'n sétio. Rydyn ni'n h�r lle oedd yn siŵr ffordd i'r gweithio. A dyfodd ar y maen nhw, nad oedd yn ei wneud gweld o'r arfa, a dyfodd i'r rhywbeth i'r rhyddon. Rydyn ni'n amlŷ i'r rhywbeth. People do feel for their own reasons to keep them... A'r achdul, keep their minds, that the body. Gwethe'n gwam drab hwnt yn fawr. I just think that's unnecessary, da'r yman, like him. I'm not gonna be late, because I think he's... You know, as much as people think the mitch he's high... He's an outstanding football man. Outstanding football man. He doesn't need to be there, he doesn't need to... But maybe he wants to be? Quite obviously, he wants to be there. Felly e'w ddeall, oherwydd i ddim yn gweithio o'r blinol, mi'n ddim yn fedle i'n cyffin sydd yn ei ei gynghwyto. Fe yw yn enwedig, oherwydd i ddim yn ei gynghwyto fod рукodd yn y mewn aig. Fe yw y 72, rydyn nhw gyd yn fwy o'r mhag i ychydig. Ond metodd chi, ac mae ychydig sefydig mae'n gau i gyrraedd. mae'r gyrraedd efallai eich gyrraedd. Felly'r gyrraedd i'r gyrraedd eich gyrraedd. Roedd eich bod yn sorto, ond o'r oed y llun, mor eich bod yr oed yn gallu unig, ond mwy, oed yn chysylltu. Eich bod yn gwybod yr oed yn ei ddechrau a i'n digwydd. Rydyn ni, mae'n ddim yn fryd o'r cerddio. Roedd eich bod eich bod yn eu ddefnyddio. Felly, mae'n ddweud o'r oed yn ei ddefnyddio. Ond oed yn ei ddefnyddio, ac roedd eich bod gennym rhaglion yw oed yn ei credu. Roedd e'n eu cadw oedd yn angen i gilydd, a'r angen i gyd yn ei rai. gael, well you know what if i get it and I dive and I go life, blah blah blah, but it isn't that is it. It's not that because it's bringing it back and does his Mrs need to be dragged into this. Does this mean that when he's doing it, he can't see his grandkids or his children because but he clearly he clearly doesn't have that attitude because his attitude is I want to be a manager of a crystal palace I want to be in the pyramid. Well he's all that the thing is he's already signed his deal for next Rhaid i chi'n gweithio! Rhaid i chi'n gweithio gan hyn? mydw i'n gweithio i gaelio gyda gwy informatio, dyna'r gweithio i chi oedd iddyn nhw, yna'r gweithio gweithio gweithio'n gweithio ar y Locustau Cynnal yn ystod o'r seftynt. Rwyf yn gweithio dechreu? Rhyf wedi'u ei gwaith o'r disgwysbeth gwrthlegau, ond mae'r gweithio ar gyfer ein gweithio a'r gweithio ar y Gwyrdau, mae'n gweithio… Rhyn i chi'n… Mae'ndom i. Mae'n daeth gennym. Onw'n rhoi na'r cwmian i'w ddigonw'r fanhaidd, i ddweud o hyn dechrau, oedd nid i'r Cynllun y Llyfrgell, rydyn ni'n tyfu. Y Llyfrgell hwn nhw ddechrau i'r Llyfrgell y Prêmio Llyfrgell. Yr hyn o'r Llyfrgell yma, ddim yn mynd yn mynd i. Llyfrgell y Llyfrgell yn Llyfrgell y Prêmio Llyfrgell. No. I'm never once if we said anything different. If it was nullan voedon i didn't get it, would we smear? Of course we would. The same as if Liverpool, if the boot was on the other foot, or if it was United or City or whoever, you would go, oh my God, aww yn lwch chi, is that what you'd smear? But the reality is Liverpool do deserve to win it. My view point is, you can't, I don't think you can hand Liverpool the league and not have relegation. Because I think you then say, well only the top bit matters, the bottom doesn't. So I think you can't have one without the other. I don't necessarily subscribe to the points per game thing anymore. I think you've made a really good thing and I'm sure we're going to go on to that about what Nodd had said. So it ain't about that. But the more you look at the things that they're having to do, just at this very moment, the more pointless the whole thing seems. Unfortunately, unfortunately, they've been backed into a corner where it's like you've got to be done by a certain time, we've got to start by a certain time. And unfortunately, that hasn't given them much wiggle room. They should have more wiggle room, but they haven't as a competition. And they haven't, and that's made it very difficult. And now they're being forced into like cutting corners to get it back and that ultimately is the problem. You mentioned it. The knowledge CEO was on the football show on Sky Sports this morning. And he was really good. He was talking about the fact that knowledge staff are still failed because they could not afford. They're not like other clubs. They budgeted to finish last in the Premier League. They can't afford anything different. So he said they've been very upfront with people. They've made their case. They weren't being greedy. He said, well, what he said was if we get to play on the pitch and we get relegated, no problem. But he said the way we look at it, he said we're six points off. I think he said 16. He said so we're not out of it. But if we get relegated and then someone says, well, the championship can't be played and we're putting leads up, he said then I'll have a problem with it. He said, if we've played and we've been relegated and leads come up and they haven't played, then he said then I'm going to fight it. He said, because that's not on. He said that is not on at all. And what was I finding very interesting about what he said was there was no clear indication from what he was saying that the championship is coming back. You know, we know League 1 and 2 are probably going to be cancelled in a couple of days. That would be a rubber stamp. But you're not hearing anything about the championship. And I felt he was just saying confidence about him. That no matter what happened, they weren't going to get relegated. He makes an absolutely brilliant point. And don't forget, leads have blown it. The last couple is not guaranteed. Leads are coming up here. All right, they're in a great position. They're my man, we're in a brilliant position. But they're not guaranteed. There's eight, nine games left there. Leads, two wins ahead of people. A couple of draws on the other teams winning. It's squeaky bum time again for them. The pressure will overtake leads. So they've got a fight to get up. So you can't go, well points per game, we're going to put them up. But then knowledge of playing and getting relegated. He's absolutely right. We've said this all along. The way that there's the least conflict in all of this, and it's the path to the least resistance really, is you cancel the whole thing. Because then nobody is in a different position than anybody else. Everybody has had the competition cancelled. You're not going. Well, I'm going. The Premier League, they're playing them games and they can stay up. But League one and League two, well you're going to a point per game so you're getting promoted. And then the champions say, well now we can't play your games but we're going to promote you anyway. Because how can you, again, you're already messing their arm at different strands of the league. So the knowledge fella is absolutely spot on. The nine games might need to be played to fulfil a monetary thing. We might need to be. But then maybe, I'm not one that believes relegations shouldn't occur. But it probably shouldn't occur if you are promoting teams on points per game while you're playing. So in that case, everything for me has to be a strict everything. Funny the other day, someone in one of the group chats put a video of Roy Actonson it was in the 1990 World Cup. Ron Actonson. Absolutely fuman because I had totally forgotten about this at the time. Sheffield Wednesday were relegated and Swindon had been promoted in the playoffs and beat Sunland. And then they found out that Swindon had had financial regularity so they stopped them coming up. And they promoted Sunland and Ron Actonson was fuman, absolutely fuman. Did a live thing while the Italian 90 was on. And he was fuman because he said, I'm going, we're going down. Sunland haven't won a game to come up. He said they come second. So instead of letting us stay up, you're promoting a team that has not qualified to come up. And it just reminded me of this situation of why should a Premier League team who plays its games go down when a team coming up hasn't played it, hasn't satisfied its fixtures. Well maybe that's, listen, the six people, six clubs involved in that fight for them three spots at the bottom. And if all six of those clubs agreed that there would be no way to accept them leads getting promoted without fulfilling their fixtures, I'm sure that they could drag another one or two clubs in higher up to goes this fair. Because listen, they're all friends. Do you think, so if you get more than less than the 14, do you think what could happen is the teams could agree. If the teams get wise and go, this championship ain't coming back, you know. There's no way it's coming back. So let's agree to finish the season on those neutral grants. Knowing that, no one's going to get, no one's actually going to get relegated. You play the season out like you are going to get, and there's a jeopardy in Sky and everyone else beat here all over it. And NBC and all the TV companies on the world are all over it. But in the back of your mind, for the owners they're like, what's going down? Because there's no way a team can come up. And that might be the carrot that gets teams back into neutral grounds or whatever. Steve Kelly's just saying here, I like that, with neutral stadiums off the table by the looks of it. I see Manchester Police are saying they could use a legalisation if people turn up with the game and prosecute. Do you both fear they could get out of hand if fans turn up? Well, I don't neutral grounds off the table and I think this could be the key to it. I think they could. I know that the clubs are wanting to finish their season on their own grounds. Of course we know that. I think you're right. I think if you remove the jeopardy from it for the clubs, then I think people will go, we're literally playing nine friendlies, aren't we? That's what we're doing. Everything should happen if they don't go down. The money should be reduced, the three of them. So there's some kind of punishment if that's what you want to call it for being relegated. You're not relegated, but there's some kind of hit. Whether you then use that to grease the palms of Leeds and West Brom and go look, that's young. You three are relegated, but you're not. But it's £15 million from you. £15 million on that. It's not even that. It sounds stupid, but... The parachute payment money would go to the three teams coming off and take a bit off them or something, I don't know. That money realistically doped. It should be taken a bit off them. Whether or not you should give Leeds, West Brom and whoever else finishes third a bonus payment because they can't come up and they're not getting the money and that's just the way it is. But I think also that the rest of the money should be distributed to teams in Leeds, because you aren't going to be able to survive. Listen, we spoke about this before. Parachute payments probably now... Rick Parish said this last week. Parachute payments now should be abolished. Why should teams benefit from being relegated? Why should that be allowed? And why should the rest of the teams be at a disadvantage because you've been relegated? If you owe that money from the three teams over the two years, was just spread out over those three divisions, the teams below would have a lot better. Adam Connwys says it on your point about Roy Hodgson. Hey guys, managers have enough coaching staff who can take the sessions. If they are more at risk, for example, Roy Hodgson or even our own manager, you could get his coaching staff or son to take the sessions that he's inserted. Listen, I'd have no problem with Duncan and Davy Dantulotti on the line. And Carlo, and Carlo not in the stadium. I've had no problem with that at all. And especially if it's... especially even more so if it is a case of no jeopardy. And Matthew Barry says seriat to resume on the 13th of June. Which will be around the same time we resume. Which is mad because it's a lever. It's a lever off the table. Matthew, I'll read your other point in the live show. Don't mix your shows, guys. Don't mix your shows. There you go, that is all you thought in the comments on anything we've been talking about on today's show. There's a lot more stuff coming up all the time. 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