 Hello, my wonderful listeners and welcome back to the Forty Auty podcast. Today I have a really amazing episode for you. I am going to be talking to someone who has had a massive impact on myself in my early advocacy days. Someone who I would consider one of the OG autism advocates who really made an impact on autism in the world as we see it. So today our topic is 20th century versus 21st century autism advocacy. And I'm going to be talking to Temple Grandin.