 So how did you die off the sisters, man? Yeah, man, lay off the sisters, man. How did you meet Pym C? Give me the story. Man, I meant to get them all at Shop Tom, man. Wait a minute, before you start, I got something to add on to that after you finish. So I meant to get them all at Shop Tom, man. And I see this dude, right? And he got on some mint shoes. I got on the mint coat. I said, man, those some cold shoes. He said, man, that's a cold coat. So I looked up and he looked at me. He said, man, you pivot kid, ain't you? I said, you Pym C, ain't you? Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. Man, I wanted to just stop and talk, you know, for a minute about Pym C, man. You know, ever since I started this show, that's something that I always valued. I always would bring that element into the show. You seen it. That's how you discover me. Yeah, that's right. Because I always would just say, hey, man, we in Texas. I ain't never really seen nobody rep the South or Texas like Pym C in this hip hop thing. So that's what really stuck with me when I first started listening to him. Cause I'm a little older than him. So I really, that's what really made me, you know, pretty much understand that how much he put out to be, you know, pretty much to hold on to that title for me. The underground king, you know what I mean? Exactly. So he really held that down. He did. He represented it to the fullest, man. Yeah, and Pym C in here, man. This right here, this here go way back with me. I told him about this story every time I seen him afterwards, man. We was at DGs one night. I had the blue hat on. And I told him I didn't want the DVD. I didn't want it at the time. I was like, I don't want it, man. I get it, man. I'm trying to shuck and jive. I'm gonna get it from you, man. He said, man, I'm gonna follow that blue hat to you by this DVD. Yeah, that's me, that's me. And the next morning we ended up in Tunica, Mississippi. I don't know how, I didn't plan it. I didn't know him. So there ain't no way we could have planned it. The next morning he was going to some, I think they had something at that casino for pimps. And he seen me in the store and he said, hey, I told y'all gonna follow that blue hat. Man, I brought our hair up and bought that DVD. I said, boy, that's the power of the shit there, man. We didn't even plan it. It was like, dang, man, I couldn't see it happening. But Pemkin, I heard you on that one song, man. Boy, that song right there. Man, listen, man. That two type of this is Coca Pepsi. But the part that tripped me out when you say it about the black girl pushing the car, man. I don't know how you come up with this stuff, man. I don't know if you meant that this is easier to work with her or yours. Let's see, in the game, right? We look at it like white bitches, brother days, black bitches, darker days. That's what you see. But it's not that we don't like the black bitches. We love our sisters. But white girls, it's just like, you got Peruvian flake, then you got that ducks. That's that Peruvian flake. So that means that white girls can go into the high or the holiday end of the height and they not gonna get sweaty. But if a black girl coming in, they gonna say, excuse me, might help you, man. So that's why we say they that Peruvian flake that all American hunky. We call it the funky hunky. The Caucasian went to the Swages, you know what I'm saying? So that we call that for a reason because white girls really do make more money. You know what I mean? Because tricks will spend more money with their own kind than they would with a black bitch. They look at a black bitch like a piece of shit. This nigga bitch, you know what I'm saying? They look at a white girl like they might look at their wife or they daughter or they girlfriend. And they want a girlfriend experience with the white girl but they know the black girl is only a temporary pleasure. You see what I'm saying? So, you know what I mean? Being a pimp, being a psychiatrist and being a scientist, I understand the science of white girls. So when we big up in the white girls, we just saying, listen, man, if you're gonna pimp, man, you know what I'm saying? We do some reverse slavery. Mash on that white bitch like an Idaho potato. You know what I'm saying? Yo, give it to her. You know what I'm saying? Give it to her. Give it to her. Give it to her. So how did that happen? Lay out the sisters, man. Yeah, man, lay out the sisters, man. How did you meet Pimp C? Give me the story. Man, I meant to get them all sharp time, man. Wait a minute before you start. I got something to add on to that after you finish. So I meant to get them all sharp time, man. And I see this dude, right? And he got on some mint shoes. I got on the mint coat. I said, man, those some cold shoes. He said, man, that's a coat. So I looked up and he looked at me. He said, man, you Pimp a kid, ain't you? I said, you Pimp C, ain't you, man? We never separated for that point. I went over to Mama House, man. And we was over there, man. We watching some of the movies I had coming out. And we just talked, man. And we just, you know, he just, man. He wanted me to break the game down for him. He said, Ken, how you do this? Ken, how you do that? And, you know, he was amazed with my skills and my knowledge of the game, you know? Because Pimp knew the game, but he didn't understand it in depth. You know what I'm saying? I may have been into some encounters with some pimps, but, you know, I mean, anybody to tell the truth, I was the best, it really didn't get away with it. I mean, you know, I really did it big, you know, like really big, big, big. So, you know what I'm saying? Do you remember what year it was? Man, you know, I can't, I can't, it might, now it might have been, I don't want to quote this, but I know it had to be after 99. Okay, okay. Now, but I'm gonna tell y'all a story that, you know, before I was really, you know, like into the Pimp, see shit, you know, the UGK shit, I think that that instruction album, I think we all ended up on the same album. So if you listen to that instruction album, that was in 2000, but Jermaine Dupri did it in 99. It came out in 2000. So, you know, before I ever met Pimp, we was on the album together. Yeah, okay, okay. And when you had you heard of Pimpsy? Well, you know, I used to ride in the pocket of stones. Yeah, I used to ride in the pocket of stones. Man, that pocket of stones was the one, wasn't it? But you know, I didn't know him, and I didn't even know who them niggas was. You know what I mean? I just liked the pocket for the stones, you know, because, you know, we riding in the hood, that was some hood shit you ride. Yes.