 Good evening, good afternoon. Hope you all are doing really quickly, really briefly. Guys, make sure that you have a good connection. Make sure that your face is visible. I do want to give priority to those who want to cover some of the things we covered this week. Namely, dealing with anything, anything, anything charismatic, tongues, or cessationism, or continuationism, any of those things, or women in ministry. Plus your questions in general, but I want to give kind of a priority to those who speak about those things first, because there have been some folks who have been having some conversation back and forth, even in the chat with myself or with other people, so I want to cover that. Also, I do want to go ahead and deal with your questions as well, and so, but still, the priority is going to be those that want to come on. In the meantime, let me go ahead and bring in a couple of these questions. Well, let me start marketing the questions that you guys have here. Let's see. As always, put a cue or a question in front. If a person does decide they want to come on, there is going to be a little bit more of a kind of a holding to the time just so we can kind of make it through. Let's see. So that being the case, and I do have one already coming in. By the way, when you come in, also let us know as you come in, let us know what your name is, your screen name is, or your profile, what have you, so that we can also know exactly who you are as well, and so that being the case. Also, 1689, I saw you put a question in earlier. Can you put it in again so I can go ahead and populate it? I do want to, I know you wanted to have that question asked the last time, but you didn't show up, and so you wanted me to hold up until you showed up, so anyway, let's go ahead and bring in, let's put this on screen, let's go ahead and bring in, who is this? This is Patrick, how are you, Patrick? Hey, how you doing? I'm pretty good, I'm pretty good. What's going on, brother? I can help you. I don't know much, ma'am. This is at work break time, man, so I got a few minutes, but I'm a sensationalist. I'm actually, I'm not sure if you're familiar with Grace Beliebers, but we believe that apostle Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, and I mean, we believe fundamentally that Christ died on a cross for our sins, and then we put our confession of faith is in the finished work of the cross. But when it comes to the gifts, as far as the charismatic gifts, if they're easily to be dispelled as far as it being in usage today. And when Paul says that which is perfect is come, that word perfect is not qualitative, but more or less quantitative. So if you actually read the whole context of that, that those those verses, Paul talks about we prophesied part or we speak in part, and when that which is perfect or that which is complete. So what he's talking about is revelatory information. So then those things like when they are all speaking the tongues and speaking, thus saved the Lord in another earthly language. But when we got the complete word of God, there's no need for speaking in tongues. So I just don't see how, I mean, me growing up an apostolic home and with a bunch of tongue talkers is just actually when you study the thing out and really look at it objectively, the way in which the stop process is formed, it comes from the premise that there are two different types of tongues. There's one that is you speak just regular. And then the other one, they're saying that it's a heavily language. Well, Paul, when Paul says though I speak with the tongues of angels, Paul was using hyperbolic language because even in those same verses, he's saying that though I give my body to be burned. Well, we know Paul never did that. So you know Paul is using hyperbolic language. I agree with you. I agree with you. Yeah, let me ask two things. Let me ask two things. One, what is your profile name? So everyone can kind of know who Patrick is. Oh, well, I'm Patrick. I never made a profile name, but they just call me Patrick, man. I'm down here working on plant mission. I agree with something you said. Obviously, I don't believe that there are different tongues. I believe there's only one tongue in question and that like you, we agree that there's languages now. And you might be correct on the that which is perfect that has come, but why would we if someone says, okay, the that which is perfect is the canon? How can you prove that? Well, I mean, the only thing, the way in which you could prove that is to work because again, what we're talking about is the word of God and what God had, we got to trust that God has preserved his word by the way of scripture because that's the only one people when people say, well, I'm prophesying, when you prophesying, it has to rise to the same credibility of that of Jeremiah or the gospel writers. So no one, when somebody says the tropics- Hold on Patrick, let me ask you a question. Because again, now I'm not, obviously, you know, I'm not the continuations, but when you say that prophecy has to rise to the same level of, let's say, Jeremiah or Isaiah, why would you say that when the Bible says that in the New Testament that he's given us prophets and that there are those that will prophesy and say even with women who are prophesied having their hands uncovered or even men who prophesy, their prophecy is not to the same level of an Old Testament prophet. As a matter of fact, we don't even know that anymore. So- Yeah, well, here's the thing, the prophecy though, but here's the thing, that's what I'm saying. Prophecy is just not foretelling, but foretelling. So if you're saying what the, okay, say I'm opening the Bible, I'm reading and then I'm saying what does save the Lord. In a sense, I'm prophesying what the word of God said. So it's not no extra biblical revelation outside of the can in the scripture, outside of Genesis, the revelation, it's no extra biblical revelation. Otherwise, if you say that you are, then you cannot miss. You have to beat the, and you have to hit 100% of design. You can't say, well, what God told me is that God told me. So that's why I say this, that's why I say this. When someone says that God told me or the Lord said, okay, well, now I'm with you. I'm gonna take with a grain of salt and I wanna test it. And then the Bible says, don't forbid prophecy or I'm sorry, don't despise prophecy. He didn't say whether it's foretelling or foretelling. Now, obviously I think I'm with you. The other one, the majority of prophecy in the Bible is going to be foretelling. And the prophecy that we should look for, that the Bible says that in order that you would prophesy such as in 1 Corinthians 14, one in five is the foretelling given God's revelation. And so I'm in agreement with you on that. The only thing that I wanna say is it's cautioning one because I don't want us to be guilty of what others do. And that is start supplanting our thoughts or ideas in places where the scripture didn't say. So for example, if the that which is perfect that's come is the scriptures is the canon, the problem is when did that happen? And so when did we know, okay, here's the time when the perfect has come and oh, by the way, when it's come, how did everybody get the word? Because the word, even though it was closed, the last writing, everyone didn't have the word of God. Everyone didn't have it. It took in some cases centuries for everyone to get the word of God. And so is it the that which is perfect? And then what do we do with the knowledge that's also there in 1 Corinthians 13, 8? Well, again, you have what is this in the Greek or it talks about gnosis and eponosis. And eponosis is special, revelatory knowledge apart from, you know, things that the only that God can tell you. I think those things, all that stuff is done away with. The only thing I'm saying when it comes to that which is perfect, because the only thing that we got to go by as far as God, we gotta trust that God preserved his word. And it's in the Bible. So I can't, you know, so it's just, it can't be nothing other than that. Otherwise to say that, well, it's something else, then again, then you have to put, you have to, what you're saying as far as prophesying is on the same level of Zico or Ephesians or Corinthians. No, I believe that God, God has ordained for this word of God that we got from Genesis to Revelation. And that's it in this particular book. So I don't, you know, I just don't think there's nothing outside of the Bible where we can say that God told me this or God told me that. Because then what you have is, you know, three or four, you know, you go to any church and they say, I'm a prophet this, I'm a prophet this. I speak for the Lord. I speak for this. And yeah, that's foolishness. Now again, and again, I am 99% with you. I really am, but the one thing that caused me to not say that I would be a cessationist is one, I wanna have the scriptures. And I'm like you, I'm not with all the shenanigans and so forth, but if prophecy and prophets have been done away with, if that's done away with, we do have a problem, we do have a problem. Because in Revelation, there are gonna be two prophets that are gonna show up and they're gonna prophesy. Now this is after the close of the canon. So what do we make of them? So then it comes to, I don't know if you necessarily believe in that sort of dispensational thinking, but you know, again, after the church is raptured up out of here, God resumes his dealing with the nation of Israel. And so there, yeah, there are gonna be, you know, prophets that come back and say, thus said the Lord, and they're giving new information to Israel and during that time of Jacob's trouble. So yeah, so, but the Bible speaks to that, that that's going to happen. But what I'm saying, but they'll be prophesied, right? But won't they, won't they, won't those two? Yeah, they will be saying what's going to come to pass shortly in these, in the days of Jacob's trouble, that you know, so yeah, this is what's gonna happen. But as far as today, what we have to say then, so then Patrick, we would have to say then that that prophecy hasn't been done away with. No, you know what, and I see where you're going and okay, I'll put it to you like this. When Paul talks about blindness in part, it's happened to Israel until the fullness of Gentiles will come where he talks about dispensation. Paul says, have you heard of dispensation of grace? Right in this particular dispensation, God is not dealing with the nation of Israel as being that conduit or salvation coming through the nation of Israel. God is dealing on the basis of individual faith, putting your confession to faith, whether you Jew or Gentile, Greek or whatnot. Now God is dealing with the church, the body of Christ. Today, he's not dealing with nation of Israel. Prophecy, all that prophecy, all that stuff has to do with Israel's condition, the fact that they had went against God's commandments, God's constitution, if you will, and set forth, when he talks about Leviticus, where he talks about the five courses of punishment that was going to be laid out to the nation of Israel. God is not dealing with Israel on that. That's why today, and I don't want to go into tangent, but today where people say, well, he who blesses Israel is blessed. That doesn't happen today, because the nation of Israel, God is almost in sense, blindness in part has happened to Israel, so now God is dealing with the debt talk today. That's what I'm talking about. But if we're gonna say though, but if we're gonna say that there are no more prophets and there will be no more prophets that's gone away, then when those two prophets show up, and by the way, those two prophets have been prophesied by the canon, if we're gonna say that that office or that that group or that that's foreclosed, it's done away with because it's the canon, well then that can't be, they can't come because if it's the canon. And so what I would say is, it's probably not the close of canon because one, the close of canon did not eliminate the need for the word to be given out because again, it was a Bible, but then two, we've got two prophets are gonna show up. And someone asked, is it witness or prophet? The actual word is prophet taste. And so, and I'm with you, the majority, the only one majority of prophecy is forth telling, but these guys are gonna give a forth telling to the word that may or may not be in the scriptures. We don't know, but we know they're from God. And so my only point, my question is, and I see what your point, what I was saying is that, but those prophets are gonna be prophesying about Israel in the day of Jacob's trouble, and I get that, but today, in this particular dispensation, we are to rely on what God's word already right now. And so when churches wrapped you up out of here, and then now it's like God, it resumes, you got the whole issue with the pre-tribulation, and tribulation and all that other stuff that comes along, and the battle of Jehoshaphat, all those different things. Yeah, those things, and then you're gonna have prophets that's saying they're gonna be forth telling and forth telling right then and then there's two prophets. But what happens when they show up? What happens when they show up? And I mean, and I'm a cessationist, and they show up. And listen, I'm a cessationist, I'm a cessationist that really had accepted Christ the first time now, because of the tribulation, I'm now a cessationist. I'm gonna deny this. Well, you're not at that point, if you're not at that point. So my point is this, I would caution folks not to, if you wanna be a cessationist, be a cessationist with caution, or like me, be a biblical continuationist, if I see it or hear it, I'm gonna judge it according to the scripture. Amen. Here's my last point now, I'm gonna let you go. Life, for instance, even with tongues, and the people really need to understand that the word, this is where we get the word glossary from, glossar, that means tongue. But if you look in Mark where it talks about, where Jesus talks about, don't pray as the heathen do. And, but if you actually read that in this original language, it's Bata aleo, and that word Bata means the patel, and leo means to speak. So when Jesus is telling them to don't speak and don't pray as the heathen do, they were the ones that were, back then they were doing ecastic utterances and doing that mumbling. Actually Jesus said, don't do that, because that, when he talks about, don't speak as the heathen do, that's talk, that's that, if you read the original language, it's Bata aleo, and that word prefix Bata comes from the, got some king, and he had a stammering problem. And so what you see today in churches with the heathen do, that all that other stuff, it's nothing but patel, it's patel. And so it's not, it's not even a heavenly language, like as they suppose, because again, if you have a faulty premise, you're gonna have a faulty conclusion. If you believe that this is somehow some heavenly language, even though Paul never advocated in scripture for the heavenly language, when he said, though I speak with the tongues of many angels, people say, oh, angels, no, he's not, he's using hyperbolic language, and he's not saying that there is a tongue that you speak. And even when he talks about this gift, the gift, the gift thing that was gift, it was for to edify the body, not oneself. And I, listen, everything, listen, everything that you say, I agree with you, a lot of what you're saying. I really do. Yeah. In terms of for edifying the body and so forth, it's just that you wanna be careful that we don't add or put in where it deadens specifically, for example. And then I'm gonna have to let you go, I gotta bring in the next person. But let's see, where is this passage at? Yeah, I'm actually on my break now at work, man, and I appreciate this, man. No, no problem. You know, I'm not talking about work, man. Well, yeah, listen, we can tell you are excited, and so, which is good, that's, which passage are we looking at in Luke? Are we looking at Luke or Mark on the Lord's Prayer? I think that's, I believe that's in Luke. Oh, when he's talking about, don't praise the heathen do? That I believe is in Mark, in Mark, yeah, that's in Mark. I think it's Mark chapter seven when he says don't praise the heathen do, because I've been studying that a while ago and I remember it's Bataleo, and it means the prattle. Oddly enough, and that's what they're doing today, is speaking gibberish. Okay, I'm gonna pull this up. What's up with my Bible? I'm at work, I can't handle it. Just pull it over here. I'm on one second, give me one second, so I'm gonna, I wanna show you what I, I was discussing this with someone else. Hold on one second. I'm gonna see, I'm looking, there it is, there it is. Okay, let's, I wanna put this on the screen, okay? This word right here, it is derived of two different words. It is Batas Lageo, it does mean to babble. The only thing is, it doesn't always mean kind of a babbling. It could, it could. And so it very well may refer to some sort of gibberish or babbling, because I remember with you that throughout history, the majority of, the majority of the world, when you heard these different unknown languages and so forth, it's been the babbling that we're talking about, it's been that. And so he might, Jesus may very well be, it's just not as solidified that that's what he's actually talking about, but you might be actually right. And I just want everyone else to see that particular passage, so this word may actually mean babbling, like you said, but it may not, it may not. But anyway, listen. We're all talking about sounds in the air not being able to like, you know, I can't even to lose that. Listen, I agree with you, it's just what I'm saying. I want to caution you one is that let's make sure if we say it, that it's definite. And so my only issue, my only hesitation is on the bat, which is perfect. So anyway, listen, I got to go ahead and run and take some more of these questions. So I appreciate you coming on my friend. And one last thing, are you ever going to deal with the Black Hebrew Israelites? Do you ever talk about them? Because it's a lot of them out there. And I'll tell you, it's very distraught. I've covered them a couple of times, but I don't really enjoy engaging them because I think I can get further with engaging my granddaughter. So it just. All right, thanks a lot, brother. All right. Okay, guys, before I bring Zach, hold on one second, Zach, let me go and answer a couple of these other questions. I need to go ahead and answer this question. This question has been about a week into making. So this is my brother, 1689, or federal ex theology. He says in Galatians 439, was this a reference to regeneration or just a miraculous birth? If just a miraculous birth, why did Isaac fear the Lord and not Ishmael? Now this is 1689, Calvinistic urges coming out in these questions. So let's go to Galatians 4. Actually, we've got all about the question. I thought you were gonna ask the question again. And so let's go to it. Let's start, I think 28. Uh-oh, I'm in the wrong, I'm in the wrong part. Hold on. All right. You know what, let's start. Let's start in verse 27. In verse 27, for it is written, rejoice, barren woman who does not bear, break forth and shout, you who are in labor, for more numerous are the children of the desolate than the one who has a husband. And you brethren like Isaac are children of promise. Now, there's a word that I wanna focus on in this in just a little bit, but as at the time, he who was born according to the flesh, persecuted him who was born according to the spirit. So it is now also. So now the question is that you asked, let's go back to it. The question that you asked was, in Galatians 4.29, was this a reference to regeneration or just miraculous birth? This is not in relation to a regeneration, nor is this even in relation to a miraculous birth other than it's a promise that God makes. Now you can call that promise miraculous, but then this is according to what God has dictated. Here's what I mean by that. And here's how we know this is not a regeneration. If we go back to the passage and we're gonna compare this with another passage that talks about being born of the spirit, because some of your verses might say being born according to the spirit or of the spirit. But matter of fact, let's verse 28. And you brethren like Isaac are children of promise. Now, I want you to notice what's used when it says of promise. It's the same word that's used for according, which is the word kata. And this is according to now, depending upon which if it's accusative or genitive, it determines if it's down or against, but in this case, it's acutely so it's according to so you were born. So Isaac was born according to the promise. God had determined that this was gonna happen. And so God opens up Abraham's wife's womb, Sarah. And so he does. Now, was the miraculous birth? Well, sure. But then again, this is what God does. This is kind of God opens wounds and God closes wounds. But this is the word that's used here. But as at that time, he who was born according to, that's why some of this version also says according, the same Greek word as kata. And then according to the flesh, persecuting him who was born according to the spirit. So these were born according to, but not of. If I go to John three, let's put on John three. John three to give an example of someone that's born of, let's say of the spirit. Jesus speaking about being born of, so that which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the spirit. The of is ek, ek tesarka. So of is ek out of or from. The same holds true to in verse eight. So is everyone who was born, Gaganaminas ek two. So was born of, born of the spirit. So in this case, in this case, we couldn't say that this was a regeneration. All this is, is just someone who is born by, as a by product of the promise. Now, was that God's move? Sure, but not in the same sense that we have of us who were born of the spirit. So, all righty. Let me go ahead and bring Zach on. Zach, how you doing my friend? Can you, could you tell us also Zach? Let me go ahead and unmute you as well. Could you also tell us Zach, what is your name on here? Your screen name? The pompous saltmer. I left a couple of chats every now and then, every couple months. I think I remember you. I remember you. What's going on my friend? I'm doing good. I was just, I'm a bit nervous being on here. I'm not real comfortable showing my face online. The only thing wrong with you is you have hair, but other than that, you are fine, my brother. You are fine. I just got a fresh haircut yesterday too, so. What's going on, friend? But I just wanted to say, since you've been talking about the charismatic and everything, I grew up in a charismatic church for 20 years when my mom moved down from Massachusetts and I was two years old. And that's where she met my stepdad, who passed away a few years ago. I could turn my real dad, but they both love the Lord. I know he loved the Lord too, a lot. But I noticed, so after I was 22, I went on deployment to Jordan. And when I came back, let's just say I got into a really bad relationship and I stopped going back to that church. And the whole time, I wanna say I was saved. I won't lie, I'm in the position where I kinda, and I'm not 100% sure if I was saved all those years or if I was or if I wasn't. But I would say I rededicated my life to the Lord last year when I got married. But that was a big thing for me growing up was being around the tongues. And we even had some so-called prophets or prophecies that would come to the church. And I would try to, I guess you could say fit in. Like I remember when I was in high school, we had a youth service and they asked people to come down if they wanna get filled with the Holy Spirit in speaking tongues. And I was like, yeah, I wanna do that. So I went down there, but I didn't really feel anything at the time. So I just kinda went along with it. But now that I've been listening to you, like I originally, like when I saw you for the first time was when you were debating young Don. And then after that, I just started listening to you and like how your teaching was sounding and it just made so much more sense. And so now I listened to you fighting for the faith and some other guys are just very sound doctrinally, which is what I'm trying to impart to my wife a little bit. So. Well, amen. Amen. I can sympathize. I understand what it's like to you're in a surrounding and everyone is flowing in the spirit so to speak. And well, well, cause I'll never forget I stood in line and asked to come down and just to pray and so forth and laying hands on people and everybody's falling out and just one after another like Domino's and they get to me and they lay hands on me and I made my mind, I wanna, I want to yield to the Holy spirit, but I'm not gonna just fall just to fall. And so the man kind of, you know, he pushed me a little bit and then I didn't, I didn't fall, he pushed me again and that was that moved on. And for a while I kind of wonder, am I resisting? But no, no, I'm just not gonna, I'm not gonna be part of a game. Not gonna pretend to be something. But in me, there was this desire to do what everybody else was doing because if they have the spirit, I want the spirit and having the spirit looks like what they're doing and so I should probably do what they're doing. And so I understand what you meant by that. Okay, I have another question cause I dealt with it, you could say after I rededicated or I got truly saved was mental battles. What originally what happened was, it's kind of embarrassing, but so I think we were, me and my wife were watching the shows and for some reason, I don't know if it was my flesh or the enemy, but I just immediately started getting like crazy like soup, I'm talking like super dark, like blasphemous thoughts and it's almost like I was being bombarded. And I broke down a little bit cause I just wanted them to go away. And then I dealt with it for a week or so. And then I remember one day at work, I was working and it was really hard for me to focus on my job because it was just literally like a constant battle every single day after I wake up until I go to bed. And I felt, my wife would send me passages through like text or whatever to kind of encourage me and everything. And I felt like, I don't wanna put words in God's mouth, but like, let's say I just felt at least just some type of leading to place my faith in Christ, which is weird cause all these years I thought I would save cause I remember there were, I was one of those people that would go down to the altar, not all the time but quite often to be prayed for and to place their faith in Christ. And it's like, why do I keep coming down to the altar all the time for that? It should be like a one-time thing, but this time I felt like a leading so I got home. And the verse that scared me was Matthew seven when Jesus says that they will come to me and say, haven't we done many works in your name? Haven't we prophesied our name and cast out demons in your name? And he says, depart from me for I never knew you. And for some reason like that hit home to me for some reason and like it scared me and I didn't wanna be that type of person that that would be that he would say that to me. So I just prayed a simple prayer and I just put all my faith and my trust in like what he did on the cross and like I'm not trying to make this like, you know, ooh, I'm super spiritual, but I definitely felt different. So what are you asking though? Like, how do you one, like what do you do when you're almost like you're constantly doubting your salvation too? What do you do when you have thoughts that like invade your mind almost that everybody is going to have these thoughts. Now some thoughts come rapid fire for some people. Some thoughts are heavier, some thoughts are subtle, some thoughts, listen, I think in many cases because the devil doesn't know you, he's trying to find out about you. He can't get in you. He's trying to know what is what is out. And so sometimes he's just prodding. He's just throwing things at you, right? And so sometimes you don't even realize you're being tempted with something because that didn't even do anything for you, right? Whereas other folks that would be tempting, but he's just, it's almost like he's fishing. He's trying to see what kind of gets you to move a little bit, right? Well, how you, how you do that, how you even fight the, these thoughts that kind of come against you, these high thought, these lofty thoughts that come against God, how you bring those down is you do what James says and that is you resist the devil. How do you resist the devil? Well, he tells us in that very same, in that very same passage that you draw close to him, move close to him, that naturally causes us to resist him. You can't hold on or cling to God and cling to Satan, cling to the world and cling to God at the same time. It can't be done. And so don't be too discouraged or bothered at the fact that things come at you and they might, they don't feel good. They don't, you know, they make, maybe make you feel unclean. Well, when you have a thought that's not godly, well, it should. That might, listen, every Christian, if you have a thought, and by the way, every Christian's gonna have a thought that they should have or do something, things that they shouldn't think or do, when it happens, if you are a true Christian, you are going to be bothered. And so at the very least, hey, amen, I'm bothered by what Christians are bothered by. And so don't let the enemy cause you to doubt your salvation. If it's bothering you, it's because it's bothering him that's in you, amen? Okay. So I gotta go ahead and run. Oh, no, you're good. You're good. I'm sorry. But, I mean, Zach, I appreciate you being on, brother. Make sure the next time we do this again, come back on again, okay? All right, thanks, man. I appreciate it. God bless you, brother. I've got moderators that are coming on now. But before I do, before I do, let me go and ask some of these other questions before I do, oh, wanting to know my thoughts on the book of life. I mean, the Lamb's Book of Life? Well, the Lamb's Book of Life is the book that our names have been written, according to how I understand it, have been written before the foundation of the world. Now, it does say the word apah, kalabales, which is, it can be from or it can be since, but if it's since the foundation world, it's not in keeping because it's also, gagraptive means it's a perfect tense, meaning it has been written in the past tense, not in the past, but it's a completed action in the past. So this is something that happened long before, and so the only time that could have happened is before the foundation, or at the founding of the earth. I don't know, but it happened before I placed my faith in Christ. And so it contains all the names of those who are in Christ and who will be saved. I don't know who those are, but that's what that book is. Now there's not to be confused with the book of the living. The book of the living is a chronicle or a book of those that are, that happen to be alive. Hey man, take one more question. Let's see, will the devil rule hell? The devil will do what everyone else is doing in hell, sweat. He won't rule anything. He will be a defeated creature. As a matter of fact, he might get jumped. He might get jumped by everyone else that'll say, listen, I'm here because of you. I can't say what's gonna happen here. The Bible didn't really say, other than this unquenchable fire that's gonna be upon him and everyone there. Can women, Darth Kitty says, can women be pastors under male headship? Absolutely not. Women cannot be pastors under any circumstances, even if there is a, there's no way to kind of go or do an in-round or you serve what God has done. And so that, otherwise a husband and wife team, father and daughter, T.D. Jakes and so forth. So no, that can't happen. So let me go ahead and go to the next person in the queue. And that will be our dear sister moderator, sister Lisa. She's walking. How are you doing, sister? Hello, sister Christian. How you doing? Hello, Cory. I'm outside, yes. I'm at the Midway Airport, real close, very loud. But as always, I'm on my way home. Question. I was gonna get on yesterday. Can you all hear me? We can hear you. We can hear you. I was gonna get on yesterday and tell you how great you are. But I decided to get on today and tell the truth. But, amen. Amen. My question to you, what is the difference between being healed and being cured? Being healed and being cured? What's the difference? Or is there a difference? I don't think there is a difference. I don't think there is a difference. Matter of fact, let me just see if the problem even... And go to book chapter and verse. Let's see, hold on one second. Let me, let me do two things. Let me pull up these verses. Okay, hold on one second, hold this long. You might hear the airplanes coming by. What just came in, what are you pulling in? There's a few different words that are used for healed. I'm sorry, yeah, for healed. There's a couple of different words that are used for healed. One of the words that is used for healed is the same word that's used for cured. That word is, where we get the word therapy, that word is also there. And so it can be used interchangeably. Heal and cure can be used interchangeably. There's also words, other words for healed that we don't see. Yeah, phato, which is also to be healed. And then where's the other word? There's another word for healed. Let me see if I can find this other word. Oh, here it is. This other word, which is esato, which is esato, which also means to be healed. And so now I don't find those other words being used interchangeably with the word cure. So I think the word cure and healed for the most part basically mean the same thing though. Okay. So can you be healed and not cured or can you be cured and not healed? No, no, but it depends on what you're healed or cured of. For example, God is not healing us of everything, namely death, because we're gonna die at some point in time. So a person might be healed or a doctor might heal or give a cure to someone that has, I don't know, a growth on their arm. They may have Hodgkin's lymphoma and they might be cured, but they're not ultimately cured because they're still gonna die, are you with me? So you can be healed of one thing but not be healed or cured of everything. Does that make sense? Yes, that makes sense. Okay. Thank you so much. Oh, it's no problem. What are you, a helicopter or something? Yeah, I'm on a bus. Okay, you're on a bus, okay. This is how, this is when I'm moderating, I'm on my way home from work where you just saw me, I was just coming out of the store, picking up a few things as always every Friday and then I'm on the bus and I'm moderating from right here in this seat as you can hear the bus. Wonderful, awesome notification. Hey, man, listen, I need to talk to Chester. Every day, I'm on my way home. I need to start comparing you and Chester. Chester ain't as dedicated as you are. Chester, he's gonna say something now. No, we just, no, leave him alone. That's wrong. I know, I'm just messing with you, I'm just messing with you. Anyway, sister, let me go ahead and go so I can go everyone. All right, love you all. I'm glad everyone can put up a name to a face, anyway. Hi, smart Christians. All right, bye-bye, sister. And look, Chester, whatever. Okay, and guess what? Guess what? This is the moderator section because now we've got my good friend, Scott showing up. I don't know why Scott, I don't know why Scott does this thing where Scott wants to text me. Scott, why don't you text me? Why don't you just call me? I just feel like, I guess I assume you're a pretty busy guy and I feel like texting might be more appropriate. But from now on, I will start calling. What's going on, my friend? Hey, not much. How are you doing today, Corey? I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. I've gotta go help my wife in just a little bit. But very busy today, very busy today. I had my grandkids. Well, I had my two grandsons earlier. And so now I'm doing this. I gotta go pick up my two granddaughters. And then I've gotta help my wife do something in her classroom. Then I gotta come back and finish. I gotta watch movie with my wife again. There's a good movie, by the way, guys. I saw it yesterday. Don't know how you all feel about it. Don't at me because I tell you the movie. That's not a golly movie, but I saw the Equalizer 3. I'm gonna watch it again. So that's my schedule for the day. What about you? Yeah, I'm just after this ends, I'm gonna start preparing for a message I'm doing. But I just had a question on Isaiah 63. Isaiah 63, okay. So verse 16, and you know, this isn't a huge, it's sort of a small thing, but it kind of caught my eye. I'm wondering in verse 16, what does he mean by though Abraham was ignorant of us and Israel present tense does not acknowledge us? What is he saying, man? Let's put it on the screen. For you are our father, though Abraham does not know us and Israel does not recognize us. You, oh Lord, are our father, our Redeemer. He's just really speaking of Abraham and then who is Israel? That's Jacob. They didn't know them. They were waiting for, remember Abraham was promised all Abraham ever saw was Isaac. He didn't get a chance to see his lineage. He didn't know about what, he had no idea, no clue of who Isaiah or even the children of Israel were gonna be. He was just promised that he was gonna have them and that's all this is. He's just saying that Abraham does not know us, which he didn't. He didn't know the children of Israel and Israel, this can only refer to his son, Jacob. How's that work for you? Yeah, that works. I got one more if that's all right. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Let me just give me two seconds, I need to pull it up here. So could we go to Genesis 314, please? Genesis 314, okay. Yeah, so this is a commonly known part of scripture where God curses the woman, the ground, the snake, et cetera. And my question is, I understand that the snake is sort of a metaphor or the image of Satan, right? But he still curses the snake and he says that the snake is more cursed implying that the cows are already somehow cursed than beasts of the field. So there's a lot of little things in there that I'm wondering about, what is he saying exactly? Who got cursed? What does the snake have to do with it? And I get that it's analogy, but when he brings up the real literal animals and cows and stuff, that's what kind of throws me. So I'm just wondering if you could shed some light on that. Okay, let me go to this particular passage. One might have to do with just how the Hebrew is written. Let me go to it. Now, by the way, this is odd because we don't really know, but this where it says where is it? It moved on me, 14. The Lord said to the serpent, because you have done this cursed, excuse me, cursed are you more than all the animals? Now the word that she was here for more than is this Hebrew word and you get this prefix added, this mem, it could be to say that he's cursed and they're cursed also, or to kind of separate the fact that they're not cursed, but the serpent or serpents now are going to be cursed or that he in particular is. It doesn't shed a whole lot of light on it. It's, there's a lot of that's just kind of left open for us. However, what we do know is that every animal, just like every human being, just like the land, the ground is all now cursed. And so maybe more so than everything else. And I think that's probably the best way to take it that more so than everything else would be the serpent. Now how so? Don't know. It doesn't really allude on it. Maybe the fact that people, there's this natural disdain for serpents that most people, not all, because some folks love serpents. Some people love them, but there's a natural disdain. I'm not sure. Again, it's one of those things that the Bible just didn't tell us. And so you can come to a conclusion, but just don't make it a hard and fast conclusion. You know what I mean? So if you ever wanted to preach or teach on it, then put a little asterisk beside it and say, this is what I think it means, but it may not be, right? Because there's just no, it's just one of those things. We don't get a whole lot as much as you and I would like to know about that. It's one of those things. Lord, when we get to heaven, God, what's up with verse 14? Help us with this. And so, or we might not have to ask, and we might just, who knows what happens to our brain, our minds when we get there. But all you can do is work with what you got and what we got in as much as what we want. And so, there's just no real, I can make up an answer for you if you want me to. Go ahead, try. That was it. I couldn't, I couldn't. I couldn't. Now, now it could be, I did hear someone say this before though, that it could be this particular serpent is unlike every other serpent that ever was. And so this serpent is one of a kind and all the other serpents are not like him. All the other snakes are not like him could be. But again, that's just me guessing or that would be the person who I'm kind of piggybacking off of just guessing. There's no way to know. There's just no way to know. And this is one of those times where we have to say, you know what? I don't know. And let that be, let that be good enough. Okay. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Oh, no problem. By the way, that is a good camera you have there, Mr. Christian Lenz. That's a good camera lens you got there. Yeah, it's just my phone actually. And it's the front camera. So it's really not as good. If I could use my back one, it would be even better. Yeah, my camera on my computer is from like 2005. It's one megapixel. Well, maybe it's not the camera, maybe it's you. Yeah, probably. I'd have to agree. All right, Scott, I will talk to you later, my friend. All right, thank you. All right, bye-bye. All right, well, let me go ahead and bring in the forgiving disciple. Let me pull you up here. How are you doing, my friend? Can you hear me? I'm highly blessed, brother. Thanks for having me on, Corey. No problem. It's an honor. What you got for us today, my friend? Well, today, man, I'm just wondering about a renewed mind and changed heart. I got, my wife has served in 18 years in prison. I'm raising my little girl by myself for the past six years and it's getting tougher and tougher by the day. And I'm really doubting myself. And sometimes I feel like God has taken his hand off of me because the blessings aren't coming in such an abundance as they once were. Is it possible for me to get a renewed mind once again? Let me, this is, hold on. This particular word, I think this is kind of cool. Let's go to Romans 12. I wanna show you guys something, I'm typing the word instead of the passage. All right, let me put it on the screen for a second. Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice except for the God which is your spiritual service of worship and do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Now, this particular word is made of two words. Ana, which is for up and then Kainas, which is new. So it's like, so the word is kind of, it's a weird word but obviously translated into an English equivalent. It's like up newing. I mean, yeah, up newing. So I'm up newing, not renewing, I'm up newing. I am becoming more and more new from above, so to speak, if you can kind of get that picture. And so notice what he says though, he says, and do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. So the renewing of your mind is happening. That's the point that I think we need to get as believers it's happening and there's gonna be some discomfort. There's gonna be some parts of life that just don't feel good, but I'm still being up new. I'm still becoming more and more new, which is why Paul says that if any man being Christ he's a new creature, old things have passed away and the newness from us comes from above. We have been born from above. Matter of fact, if we go to Titus, this washing and regeneration that were Anna is there also this up being born. And so all of our newness, who we are, is coming from above. Why that is important is because as we're going through things, don't let the enemy get you focused too much on what's down here because your newness honestly is coming from above. It's gonna be rough, but guess what? He knows enough about you to know that you can handle it. You are the guy for the job. And I'm not one of these kind of a name and claimant kind of hoping and so forth. But the truth of it is that you got something in you. Greater as he, not my words, but he is greater as he that's in you than he is in the world. And so when it gets tough, just remind yourself, if it's tough, it's because it's supposed to be tough. And I'm a tough guy. I'm the one that God chose for this. And so I'm gonna come through all right. And my wife is gonna have a testimony at the end. My daughter is gonna have a testimony at the end. I'm gonna have a testimony at the end. Those that are gonna hear it are gonna be blessed by my testimony at the end. So you know what I ought to do? Rejoice at what the end is gonna be. Rejoice about it right now because God is doing something amazing right now. Amen. And so don't live your testimony. Don't live through the, you watch sports. Do you watch sports? Anymore. Okay. Well, let me tell you guys. Anymore. Let me tell you a story. I was, y'all know about my colts. I was watching the colts. I was at work. I forgot why I came. I think it was a seminar or something. Came home and this was before we had DVRs. So my wife had to video record the game. And we were playing Tampa Bay. I'll never forget this. The Colts were playing Tampa Bay, 29 football and we were the two of the top teams in the league at that time. Everybody thought highly of the Colts and Tampa Bay. I get there to watch the game. I got my food ready. I had to wait a little bit for the game to finish. So the record, so the BCR can finish recording. So I sat down and watched the game. Now my wife has already seen the game. She knows what happens because she recorded it. She turned it off so I can, so I can watch it. She has my plate ready. I'm sitting down. I'm sitting down watching the game. And if you guys go back, just Google the game. It was horrible for us in the very beginning. I mean, listen, it was a disaster. And I'm just, I got all excited to watch this game. I'm upset. I'm bothered. I picked up a sock. I took off my sock, rolled up my sock and threw it at the TV. I was upset. I don't throw stuff. I was highly upset. I was invested in this game. Well, my wife comes in and she's doing something in the kitchen and she looks over at me and she's just kind of shaking her head with a smile like my poor baby. And I'll tell you what she said at the end, but little did I know that it was one of the greatest comebacks in regular NFL history, certainly on Monday night history, the Colts came back and won the game. I think 21 points in like the last three, four, five minutes, right? The reason why this matters is in how someone who doesn't, you ain't got to watch sports to get any benefit out of this, but my wife said, I wanted to tell you so bad what the end was like. I really did, because I didn't want you to go through this game and not enjoy it. Could you imagine if I would have known what the ending of the game was like before I saw it? Well, in our case, we do. I would have watched that game with a lot different attitude. The outcome was still already known. The Colts had already won. Victory was already there. I just didn't know it. But what if I would have known about the victory? I'm now watching the game. I get it. Just like, wow. You mean tell me we're getting ready to come back from this? And so what you can rest assured and tell yourself, I'm gonna come back from this because ain't no testimony like a real test inside that testimony. And so you're gonna have one. So what does the Bible say? What does Paul say in Galatian? Do not faint. Like you're doing and well doing. For in due season at the right time, you, my friend, are going to reap a reward. Do not faint. And God has already put in you to not faint. Just remind yourself of that and you'll be all right. Amen. Hallelujah. Thank you for the lift up, my brother. I love watching you and I appreciate it. Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother. Take care. Listen, anytime, anytime, anytime, come on. By the way, by the way, before you go. Thank you, brother. I think we talked before. Where were you, where were you locked up before? I was locked up in Norco, most of it. I was in DVI a little bit. I got out in 2010 and my wife went down in August of 2017 and that's when I had to cry out to Christ. I didn't have him at that point, but once I cried out to him, he came and changed everything and gave me a renewed mind. And I didn't know I would ever be a single father, man. I was the worst of all the whole boys, man. I was, now I'm a single father raising a little girl and he took me out of Sacramento, brought me into this little small town. Uh-oh. Oh, man. Froze upon us. Hmm. Well, all I can say is this, won't he do it? I wish we could have, I wish we could have heard. Okay, here he goes. Here he goes. We got the red stuff. Yeah, he's not coming on. Yeah, brother, yeah, something's wrong with the connection, but we love you still. Let me go ahead and answer a couple more of these questions. Miss Mariah, TV says, Cory, can you please explain Hebrews 1-1? Let's go to Hebrews 1-1. I think there's too much an extra interpretation on this particular verse as well. God, after he spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways in the last, these last days has spoken to us in his son, whom he appointed heir of all things through whom also he made the world. Now, I know you said verse one and one, but also to throw in verse two as well. Matter of fact, let me just make sure, yep. Okay, yep, just wanna make sure it's in the sun. So now, what this passage is not saying, and I know some people would love to, would love to kind of make it that what it's not saying is that he's really referring to his scriptures. Does that mean that he's not speaking through his scriptures? He absolutely is, but that's not what this passage is saying. This passage is not saying that now in these last days, he's speaking to us through his son. I mean, through his scriptures. No, he's speaking us through his son. His son, Jesus is not the scripture, though the scripture he bear witness of him. And that's what people, again, I think it's a rush to make sure that people aren't listening to these outside voices. The Lord told me, God said, this guy got a word from it. No, that's not, we don't have to use this to thwart that foolishness, but that's not what he's speaking of. He's speaking of how now he is speaking to us. In that time, how did God speak to everyone? He spoke to everyone either thundering from heaven. They heard an audible voice. Oftentimes through the prophets being led, which is what he says, as long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many ports in many ways, which is what he's saying. That's how he spoke to them then. But now where does he reside? For those who are believers in us. And so that's really what he's saying. He's not necessarily saying that it's through the scripture. By the way, it's not the state that he's not, he's not talking through the scripture because the Bible says that all these scriptures have been God-breathed and proper for our learning and instruction and so forth. So clearly, clearly, clearly that's what it is. Wow, is that true? Is that true? November 18th? Let me put it on my calendar. Let me put this on my calendar so I can make sure. Okay, now I have to pray. Now I have to pray. Should I stay or should I go? Isn't that a song? Should I stay or should I go? Now I've got to pray about that. Now I've got to pray about that. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Oh man, maybe I should. Maybe I should. Hey brother, I would just want to talk to you. Can I get a moment of your time? Or if I just act like I was possessed, you would say, go, go, go. She says, go. Cause I don't, listen. I can be a troublemaker, but I don't want to be a troublemaker. I don't want to just go and just, you know, cause it might be some mess. It might be some mess. My granddaughter just texted me, she said, grandpa, can you bring us some food? Grandpa, can you bring us some food? I'm a type of, no, we're fasting. No, we are fasting. She's got to ask her grandma, what is fasting? $120 of slave demons. So, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I'm taking questions, time out. I am taking questions. I'm taking, hold on. No, that's not her, that's my granddaughter. That's my granddaughter. When they get a hold of my wife's phone, this is what happens. How do you spell life? Oh, it did it. She said, please. I don't know why they ask that question. They have not gone one day. These kids have not gone one day where they have not eaten. So now all of a sudden they think today is the day that we're gonna stop feeding them. Will we have titles or rankings when we get to heaven or will we all be equal? Well, we're gonna be equal. Now, how it's gonna be, there's no way to know. Matter of fact, what we also don't know is how rewards are going to be, crowns and so forth. BJ, what happened? I saw you in the deal, what happened to you? Your deal cut off, I thought you was coming on. Come on back on board, DJ. But we don't know, there's just no way. And by the way, guys, I want you guys to know that we don't want to make up something or read into something. We could, if we take an educated guess, make sure everyone knows I'm taking an educated guess. I don't wanna, I'm not gonna just say this is what it is because I think if there's no biblical basis, which is why I was making the whole point about, and again, I am not a continuationist. I'm not charismatic, but I'm not gonna say that that which is perfect is the canon and that there's no prophets to come or prophecy when the Bible literally tells there gonna be some prophets. So what about them? If the end, if that which is perfect is the canon, the canon has came and then we got two prophets are gonna show up. That kind of eliminates the whole, that which is perfect being the canon, are you with me? But we don't have to find a kind of a way to thwart or to knock down bad theology. Let's just use good theology, good doctrine eliminates bad doctrine. Might take a little time, a little extra work. And by the way, you're not gonna convince everybody. And so sometimes we get frustrated because we can't convince everybody. That's on them, not on us. Why is there so much debate on tongues when the Bible clearly states that there should only be a few? Well, here's why, here's why. And if there's no interpreter, I call poo poo because you actually had the answer in your question. Why is there so much debate on tongues when the Bible clearly states? Well, there's the answer. People aren't reading their Bibles. That's just what it is. They want it to be more than what it really is. They want to be more than what they really. Listen, a lot of people want to be something special. Everybody wants to be something special. Everybody wants to be great. I get that, I get that. And so, and Paul's addressing this because you have this desire to be spiritual then desire the things that build up other people. So if you wanna be a hero, don't be a selfish hero. Don't be Superman and then use all your strength and your X-ray vision and so forth to satisfy yourself. Use your powers for good, so to speak. Use what you've got, use what God has given you for the benefit of others as the Bible clearly states, amen. So let me go ahead and bring on Andre, contends of the faith. How you doing my brother? I'm doing good, how about yourself? I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good. Didn't we see you last week? I think we saw you last week. Yes, she did. Yes, she did. I have a question because I'm teaching Sunday school and one of the kids that asked me about the Trinity and had to explain it because they were wondering. So I've been struggling with this. I know the Trinity. I know how, kinda how to explain it. So I'm reading my Bible and I don't know something. I started just reading scriptures and asking myself this question, who's Christ? He's the visual representation of God. Who is God? He's got the Father and then just got the Spirit. I understand how all three of them are one, but all three are three different persons. And then I went back to Genesis and realized that we are his image, but we're not, I'm not saying that we're gods, we're not gods. I don't believe that. But we are someone of an image of him. So I had drawn a picture of how it made sense in my mind and I wanna know what you think of it. Okay. So I hope you can see this. As people, I can't, yeah, move it over a little bit. Okay. As people, we have a mind, a body and a spirit. The mind's not the body, the body's not the spirit. The spirit's not the mind, but all three make up who we are as man. All right. But then when it comes to God, we have the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father's not the Son that says that the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit's not the Father, but they are all God. And the same way we have a mind, God, the mind of God is essentially the Father. Our body is our visible representation of who our mind and our spirit is. The Son is the visible representation of who God is, which comprises of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And the same way we have a spirit, God has a spirit. The only difference is we are a who with three what's while God is a what with three who's. Is that a good way to explain it or is that a bad way to explain it? I would say this, I would say this, this is what I would do, this is me personally. I would stay away from analogies because there's always somewhere where the analogy is going to fail. For example, in your drawing, each part has to be who you are by itself, right? So the body, is that body, just that body all you? Well, no, just like your mind. And so it's going to fail. And the reason why it's going to fail is because there's nothing or nobody that we can think of that's like God. And so what all you want to, this is what I wanted, what I do. And even I get kind of an understanding even when I'm dealing with Muslims and Jew, at least some degree. In Exodus three, we have an example of God, his fullness clearly not being in that bush. So where is he? They'll understand that he's in heaven. And they'll also understand that even though God was there in the midst of the bush, he's also in China at the same time. His spirit is in China. His spirit is in Europe. His spirit is in North American, South America. He's all, his spirit is everywhere at the same time. Even though he showed up at that moment, at that very moment, he showed up in the bush. And so here we've got God in his fullness in heaven. His spirit all over the earth. And then at that moment, he wrapped himself in fire. And so because he wrapped himself in fire, that means he can also wrap himself in flesh. And so who was that in the bush? That was God, completely God. Who's spirit is that all over the earth? God, completely God. Who is that in heaven? God, completely God. And so trying to find an analogy is going to be difficult. Matter of fact, impossible, we don't have one. Now maybe God's going to give us one, I don't think there is one. I don't think this is an efficient earthly analogy to give us so that we can understand what he's speaking of. I just don't think there is. They all are going to fall at some point in time, whether you want to use the pretzel and the dough, you got the three holes, but they're all made of the same essence. So I would try to explain it without using the analogies, if that makes sense. Yeah, I'm trying to explain it to like eight and nine year olds. So I'm trying to, I'm trying my best to explain it cause we went last week, we went over, not last week. Don't get too deep with eight and nine year olds. Don't get too deep with them. I don't try to, but we went, they somehow brought the question cause we were going over Genesis 22 when not Genesis 22 before that. Genesis 18 and 19 with Sodom and Gomorrah. And they asked the question, they're like, well, how's God talking with Abraham, but he's also in heaven, who's in heaven? So I was trying to explain it to him. I brought the Trinity and basically tried to explain it to him, but then one of the kids didn't understand it. So I'm trying to think of a way to explain it to where little kids can get it. Just use the book. That's why I like that whenever someone is struggling with it, I always just go with the Exodus three because they understand God is in heaven. They understand, even now they know that God is everywhere. They know that he's in heaven. They know that his spirit is everywhere. And so I think they can grasp that. But again, we're talking about eight, nine year olds. We're 50, we're 40, we're 30, we're 70. And we still have a hard time grasping the fullness of it because he's God. He is the unfigurable. So, but yeah, I wouldn't get too bent out of shape if you can't adequately explain it to the little children. True. It's a problem with me when I can't explain something I'm trying to. But yeah, so, cause I want these kids to know scripture and Bible and I want them to understand it. Like one little girl in my class, she knew who Christ was, but she didn't know who, she didn't know that Christ was God. So I basically used two verses. I used Zachariah 12, 10. And then I used Revelation one, seven and eight. And then when I asked her who was the pierced one that both scriptures are preferring to, she was like, well, that's Christ. I was like, okay. And then who's the pierced one and both at the same time? She's like, well, that's God. I was like, so what does that mean? And she understood it, which that was the easiest way I can explain how Christ was God. Didn't go with that. And then, you know, yeah. Listen, you are going to explain it in various different ways, at different times, different people. So don't get too bent on saying, but if they can't quite get it, as long as they know, there are two things they need to know, who God is and that Jesus is God who also paid for our sins. Nobody, especially young kids, come into faith. There's never been a person in the history of the world that came to faith and understood the Trinity, not one person. Now they grew and learned it as, you know, and so they understood that Jesus is Lord. He's the Lord and died for our sins. That's sufficient. And they'll grow in, because we're just gonna grow in sound teaching as they get older. Amen. I also got one more question. Okay. I am working on a video where I'm talking about Islam and diagnostic texts. And I think you, you made it, I think you quoted you in passing, we're talking about Islam and how the book, how Islam basically says to go back to the Bible. I was wondering, do you care if I, do you care if I splice that video into it? Sure, I don't have a problem with that at all. Now, there are people that are far better at it than I am, but there's a couple passages. And if you emailed me, I've got some references that kind of talk about how why Jews ought to be, why Muslims ought to be following Christ. But then again, there's some channels on YouTube that kind of deal specifically with that. Because young brother God logic, he's pretty good. And so, I am, I'm not necessarily the best because I am this way when it comes to Jews. Jews, when it comes to Muslims, that I'm not gonna fight you, I'm not gonna try to twist your arm to convince you to believe what I've, because it's gonna take a work of the Holy Spirit. All I can do is give you what your word says, keep it moving, and then that will be that. Oh yeah, by the way, David was one also. But there are people that are far better than I am. And so, I would go with that, but I've always had to then listen, the Bible, your word says that you ought to, you ought to trust the word, do not doubt it, ask the people of the book and don't doubt it. That's your word. And so now why are you asking them? They say, well, it's been changed. It's been corrupted. Well, we have the exact same words that they had at the time in the seventh century that these words came to Muhammad. And so it hadn't been corrupted. Well, we can demonstratively prove that true. So I would do that, but I wouldn't, trying to go around the world to pick and choose what's the best way to prick somebody's heart and change their heart, it's not necessarily a winning strategy. Only those whose hearts have been changed and they're gonna wanna listen. Making someone change their mind, convincing someone against their will, they'll still stay unconvinced. Yeah. So anyway, let me go ahead and get to the, I got three more people now and I've gotta leave in nine minutes. So my brother, thank you so much. Next time we do this again. No problem. I'll look forward to seeing you again. All right? Sounds good. All right, take your bed. Have a good day. Mm-hmm. Uh-oh, ah, layman, I'm sorry. I deleted you after I hit the X button thinking it was him. Chime back in, my friend. Right now, I've got Harvey coming in. So let me bring Harvey in. Let me bring Harvey and then I gotta bring Cameron. Harvey, how you doing, my friend? Hey, how you doing, sir? I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. Um, I don't know, I just had a question. Is this a question thing, right? Yes. I don't know how to answer. I comment down below and you go, oh. I can't hear you well. Hey, Daniel. Hello? I mean, I can hear you the sound, but it's coming, the audio is a little, is a little kind of, I don't know, I can't even explain it, but go ahead and try it. Sorry, speaking now? Hello? Yeah, you hear me now? I hear you now. Yeah, as a layman, I see that a topic from a lot of people talk about, call like, chosen ones. And I know we can switch here, talk about that as also. And I see, I found myself in the same boat. It's kind of difficult to kind of corroborate in the world as trying to be a Christ following it. Cause I came from a new age, essentially. And as I came towards the Bible, I kind of found it more, again, attack, I wanna say, and not really resonating with people. And I'm kind of seeing things from a spiritual biblical perspective. Brother, I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time. I really am having a hard time hearing you. It is. Oh, okay. I guess I was trying to hit you on that time. I know you're busy at the moment. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, brother. I was having a hard time. I'm sorry, brother. Try me back again, okay? All right. Okay, now listen, what I need to know, if you guys are with me, that's all I wanna know. Are you guys with me? Cameron, how you doing, brother? I'm doing just fine, how are you? I'm doing wonderful. I am doing wonderful. Where are you driving to? I'm driving home from work. Okay. What city are you in again? I live in a, I don't know if I should say online, actually, anyway. I live in Missouri. It's a little place called the Summit. At least that's where I work. Okay. Then I'm driving to another place about 30 minutes away to home. Okay. Well, what's going on, brother? How you doing? Oh, you know, I just, I heard a few things that I wanted to clear up. If that's okay. That's okay. All right. First of all, I wanna know what your understanding of second Corinthians verse 12, verse 12, whenever it says the apostles, like the signs of the apostles were performed among you and it talks about signs and wonders. I'm asking specifically, what is your understanding? What do you believe to be specifically the signs of an apostle? Well, I think, let's put it on screen. The signs of a, this is Paul defending his apostleship. He says the signs of a true apostle were performed among you with all perseverance by signs and wonders and miracles. And so he's telling you what these kind of giving a little bit extra information about these signs. And so I think that he's literally, that he's actually speaking about the actual miracles that kind of validate their ministry. They knew for a fact that because they saw these signs, these wonders that there could be no question that they were sent from God. And so Paul is reminding them of that. And so I think the people being healed, his shadow touching people. I think those are the things that he's referencing to kind of prove his ministry. And I do think that even those that will say that we don't have these apostles anymore, apostles have to have these signs. I think this is a good passage to go to as well. And so I think that's what he's saying here. Okay. So what would lead you to believe that somebody today could possibly perform any of these signs? Because I believe in regardless of whether or not you think that the ending of Mark is supposed to be there or not. Let's say that the signs are to follow the apostles. And what those signs not indicate that the person is sent from God in that specifically since the apostles were to set up the foundation of the faith, why would there still be signs required today? I don't think that initially would be. I don't think part, now see me, I don't think that we need those right now. However, will that always be the case? Because again, from my standpoint, I don't need anything but the word and just to look at the word and see how it's been true, the prophecies that have come true and so forth. So I don't think we need them. Now, will there ever be a point in time where there will need to be signs? Well, we go to revelation, we're gonna see signs. We're gonna see wonders. And that is to verify what's happening then. Is there some, is it a possibility that in some corner of the world where they haven't heard English or we don't know their language and there needs to be, is it possible? It's possible. I don't expect it. I don't have any basis or any reason to believe that there needs or that there will be any signs for now. And so I don't, so to answer your question, I don't see any basis for believe that the signs are continuing at least at this moment. Does that eliminate the possibility of signs coming, true signs? And when I say signs, I mean true signs. I don't mean toes growing back that no one has seen before after pictures. I'm not talking about that, but I mean actual true signs. There's nothing to state that they won't come back but there's also no reason to believe that they will. And so I can be neutral. And then when I see a sign, I'll know it's a sign. But I'm not gonna be one of those that are gonna go looking for a sign if that makes sense. And so I think that the latter ending of Mark 16 is an addition by a scribe. And even in that was to state what was to refer to the apostles. I don't think it was referring to actual end of it us. I think it was referring to the apostles because they did all of those things that are mentioned in Mark 16, the apostles experienced. So I have no expectation of seeing signs or wonders like we saw there. All right, I'm just making sure we're on the same page. We are on the same page. You with me? I'm with you. Amen. Amen. Amen. Anyway, I know you gotta go. So I want to take one last person and then I've got to get out of here. I got to go grab some food. I'm approaching fast food for my grandkids. So all right. Yeah, fasting food, right? Yeah. All right, friend. Talk with you later. See ya. And I've got to bring on a special guest, Brother Layman Seminary. How are you doing, my friend? I can't hear you. Hello, sir. How are you? I'm wonderful. I am wonderful. Question, brother Jennings. Did you tell me that you had also been where I had been? Did you also have your own personal tour of the? Yeah, I'm not really that open about it, but yeah. Okay. I thought you told me that. It ain't for everybody, you know? It is. Yeah, it really ain't. It really ain't. How you doing, brother? I'm all right. I don't really have a question. I just wanted the opportunity to come in here and say, I appreciate what you do and everything. Whenever I first saw your books, when you used to have the bookshelf, and I saw Wallace's grammar and everything, I was like, okay, you're about that life, but so I appreciate that, you know? Yeah, let me say this about you. I don't comment on a lot of videos and so forth, but I see layman from time to time show up over here, or show up over there, or even on certain videos. I don't comment, but, and there might be some times or some places where we may differ. Layman is free grace, and a lot of his free grace, I agree with, and because you know why, layman's a smart brother. And so, guys, if you run into him, whether you agree or disagree with him, you're gonna get a thoughtful response from the brother. The brother is in his stuff. He studies, he learns his stuff, and so I appreciate you also. Thanks. Well, have a good day. All right, brother. I'm gonna take up your time. God bless. God bless you too, brother. All right, guys, I have got to get out of here. I've got to, I've got to move on. As a matter of fact, I will do this. Layman, send me an email, because I do wanna bring you on later on. Let me answer this. Why did Jesus, BJ said, why did Jesus eat fish and honey after the resurrection? Was it approved? He wasn't a ghost? It was for two reasons. It was a couple of things. One, to prove that he is still Jesus. Touch me, put your hands here. Feel me. I am, I'm, I'm, it, his eye, that would say, it's me. And then, but what does he do? He's still, Jesus is gonna let you know that he, he's still who he is, walking through a door, the door is closed and walking through it. But then the whole point of the fish and the hot coals, what did Peter, how did Peter come into the ministry by fishing? And so here he is, he comes in, Jesus is there, got these hot coals burning over this fire. Well, wait a second. Peter, didn't you, did you deny me? Did you deny Jesus over some hot coals over a fire and hot coals before? And so could you just imagine, put yourself in Peter's shoes? Like, ah, Jesus, you're doing it to me. You've met, have you ever had, when you were younger, your parents asked you a question and you knew that they knew. You did something wrong and your parents knew and they wanted you to know that they knew. And they didn't even tell you, they're all in your mind. I could just imagine Jesus, this is how I'm trying to put myself in Peter's shoes. Ah, here, Jesus, come on, Jesus, Jesus, don't make it hard for me. And so there's a lot of things that Peter can relate to. What was the need for them to be over this hot coal, this fire burning? Well, maybe this is calling things back to to Peter's remembrance. I'll answer a few more of these questions. By the way, thank you guys for the super chat. Fitz Jones says, I have read we are saved by grace, do faith alone in church? I hear pastors have people repeat the sinner's prayer or something sort of that. What is the correct way to tell someone how to be saved? The Bible doesn't say, tell them to do it this way or that way. It doesn't say, brother Fitz, it doesn't say do it this way or that way, just that they place their faith in Christ. Now, is it a sin and are you unsaved if someone repeated some words, I mean said some words and you repeated those words? What saves you in the prayer, isn't you repeating them? What saves you is the faith that goes into it. A lot of us said a prayer. A lot of us, many of the folks in the chats, someone said some words, you repeat them and you believe them. Where you say because you repeated those words, the words were wonderful, no, you were saved because of the faith. And the faith was there before the person said, hey, repeat these words, you had already trusted. And so now I wouldn't guide folks to say, to lead folks in the sinner's prayer. But at the same time, if someone says, hey, what should I say? Well, say some words like, and I've said to people, hey, listen, just say these words if you wanna say something, but all you really have to do, you don't have to actually say any words. You don't actually have to have words that come out of your mouth. You have to have this trust to emanate from your heart, that you trust what Christ has done. And in doing so, you are saved. But if someone leads someone in the sinner's prayer, is that sinner's prayer? Does it nullify them being saved? Absolutely not. Their faith is what saves them, right, man. Chandler says, hey, Corey, check out the Ume in John 635 to supplement John 1028. Then look at, oh, no, I've covered that Ume as well. The, the, the, what's the word? The double negation is all throughout triplets. Matter of fact, you'll see the double negation of a subjunctive and the double negation of a future active indicative, oftentimes in the, in the New Testament, regarding something so tear-logical, regarding salvation, because what is being negatized is the loss of salvation. So definitely in 635, 1028, 10, 5, is it the Hebrews 13, as well as Romans, Romans, Revelation 3, it's all throughout. You keep saying like, wow, what is, what is God trying to tell us? He's trying to tell us that. How often do you fast? Should you mean how often do I, or how often should a person fast? As often as you want to get close to God. The point and purpose of being a fasting is to draw yourself closer to him. Denying the physical for the gaining of the spiritual skilly child. Thank you so much for the super chat. And everyone else who has, I'm sorry, Chow Young Cat as well. In the past, God spoke, is this why you brought this up? Chow Young Cat is quoting Hebrews 10 as well. Thank you so much for the super chat. And everyone else, thank you guys for being here. I have got to run. I would love to answer more questions, but my wife and my grandchildren are waiting on me. So guys, be blessed. I love you and I will see you all on, by the way, Bible study on Saturdays. If you could make it, be blessed.