 and you're missing Cali tonight. We'll start with General Colle Comment, not seeing any. I'm going to go ahead and, I'm going to go third, more counts to the left, we're missing Cali tonight. We'll start with General Colle Comment, not seeing any. I'm going to go ahead and move to old business and go ahead with the sidewalk project. Pat, do you want to roll on it? Yes, sir, thank you. No, are we going to get everybody? Thanks. I know, John, you've been working with Pat a little bit and Jason as well. If you guys want to update the board on where things are at with your project, that would be good. Well, you've pretty much decided on that panel, so you told Pat to put together the RFP and she has done, you've got us the wrong panel. I was saying they were on a final initial, and I apologize for that, but I didn't open the panel. But you guys, what was it? I'm going to leave that email, I'll leave it to my work log. Oh, okay. I'll leave it to you. Yeah. So I'm going to go, so I guess that's where we're at. So I assembled this request for proposals for construction inspection services our president engineer, because of her. And I don't know how many of you have any time to review it, but you have the next final version of it in the last hour, so I made some edits corrections that you might see in there. And I do have the final version ready now, I already have those. So that's the question of whether the slide board here wants me to go ahead and send this request for proposals on to Hamlin, Donald Hamlin Engineering Association as extension, get their scope of work and cost proposal from them for doing the construction oversight for the sidewalk and drainage project. So I skim through it, I trust that that put everything down in order and so on. Yeah, I think that I'm comfortable with this part of it. Just with you guys and you went through, I know why I saw the checklist that you guys went through. I was supposed to be here last meeting, but everyone's comfortable with Hamlin as that chosen contractor. Yeah, I've been out all day, so I haven't been meeting journals. Yep. What was the outcome of the support as your inquiry to receive transportation regarding our questions about what we're allowed to do? Okay. What we can do, and John, you can chime in also, I did get a response from Chris Hunt who indicated that we could ask that they make sure that they have someone on site, a qualified person that's in their roster. And what I may suggest is that in this RFP, if you've read towards the back, it mentions that the time reserved for the right to interview the selected consultant. And that is the question we could throw if you choose to interview them, we could throw that question out. We could stress the importance of having an experienced resident engineer construction inspector in a private and ask them for the name of the person they plan on putting it on site. So I would suggest we do the interview because that would be a good point blank and opportunity to throw a question of who you're gonna have on the site. That sounds like a good, compliant way to do that. Yes. Chris Hunt seemed to think that was okay for the eight year thing, yes or no? Yeah, we could not put the eight year recorder within the RFP. Well, this award, well, I actually had it better because we're satisfied for some other reason. Right, this would give you a good chance to get a feel for the company by having some people come in from the firm and meet them in person, talk to them further, perhaps further, ensuring your comfortability with them. Well, I like it, I think it's coming up with that. Okay, you're welcome. Now, dude, we get a final take on the going across the front of the fire station, from Chris. The, as far as the easement? Yeah. Chris Hunt indicated to me that he was not going to take any pushback from District Five. Okay. I mean, there's some issue about their maintaining the culvert, which seems kind of silly to me, since they're going to own it. They seem to have some resistance to being required to maintain it, which means if they don't want to maintain it, it seems to me like they're trying to throw that back on the top. Okay. So, I have not seen the final easement yet. I'm assuming that's the reason we have it, because there's some consternation in the part of District Five about the maintenance. Okay. Issue. And the state is also, or Doug is preparing the contract, because I did finally break down and say the tree has to go. That's the final word, I'm sure. Also, could you do the other? Bill Devos from Cybert, from Cybert. So the tree works came out and we found we're out of the base of the tree. He didn't think that it would be an issue to say that it's not that much, there's no how deep it is. The bottom line, you know, just like we kind of all said, sooner or later that tree's gonna come down or have to come down. And here's a way of doing it. So I double-check to make sure that it's in the, it'll be in the contract, it'll be in the contract. It'll be in the contract, I guess. And so this, our share would be the 10% which would be about $300. Bill seemed to think it would cost about $2,000. Okay. Any word on the other tree? We'll move the GMP on the. The one that has to be approved or taken down to the power line. They're in Maple and for the Hays? Oh, no, no, no. I haven't been in the glory of that either. GMP or D-Trends are supposed to come up with their offer to pay for it, does that recall? Well, on the Haines tree? Yeah. Well, I don't, you've said, can you check if it's green mountain power? I will check if it's green mountain power. Supposedly the Haines would receive an email for green mountain power saying that they would take care of it, but I guess we need to. This is a recent one, or the old one? No, this was supposedly one that was like a year. Right, okay, that's what the history and we received, which is a little, which they're not. It's a little iffy. Yeah, a little iffy. It was a little iffy. Well, you didn't receive the email. Yeah, okay. If you could forward that to Pat? Absolutely. Well, you didn't see that email? I don't think I saw that. Oh, it looked like you did. Yeah, that'd be important if you had an email from the right person who said that. The email seems to refer to a previous conversation that implies that they were paying for it. That selling is my friend's right. Right, almost a third hand. Yeah. But for the remand power and less, so it counts for something. So I'll take a look at this. Yeah, so I'll take a look at that, yes. And those are like the last three issues to get the final contract documents put together and advertise the project for construction bids. So I will stay on top of this easement situation because that still has to be recorded in the town records. Prior to getting the job out to bid. Now Chris Hunt has sent out the request for the lease of the construction funds. That's the last thing he did before he won on his two-week vacation. That's right. So he did indicate he put out the request for the release of the construction money. So that should be in hand so that we could put the job out to bid. And pay the contractor to do the work. So he'd give any ideas when he goes back on vacation. September 16th, that'll be a week from this coming Monday. So it's a Monday, he's back. I put it in the RFP by the way for the construction inspection services that we were expecting the project to go out to bid to October 15th. I just guessed, based upon giving the construction funds in the easement situation straight and that'll make sure the dump gets that training contract diagnosed. Well that is going to be one day to celebrate when that never happens. I agree. I've been working with you people since 2014. That's nice. Five years for a simple sidewalk project. Five years. Yeah, there we go, all right. I'm not sure if you're aware but I know why. I think John's, I'm not sure if the board is, but we've received a grant, we're going to Cheryl Lynn get a grant for the other side of the road as well. So we have another 400, tell us how much is it? $16,000, maybe. $460,000 for another sidewalk project on the other side. So my hope is that with a lot of the leg work that's already been done as far as the flooding and the situations and those things that took forever. And we also, we don't have the catch basin or issues to deal with. So hopefully it's not, it doesn't take another five years to get that project off the ground. But I know Cheryl's, Cheryl Lynn's going to be meeting fairly soon on that, isn't she? September, in the middle of September. Right, so we'll start that off if that can't go off as well, so. Good, I'm assuming you'll have to start the scoping study and all of that. Yeah, and you'll have to start back with step one on that. But again, we should have a lot of the documentation that they're going to come back and ask for. Yeah, did this project should generate a lot of what you needed? And of course the genius will worry about it fixed. Right. And also we learned throughout the project, I think, in other words, we would do things better. Sure. Next time, in this time. So, yeah, so some of them look forward to there. But the matter of hand is we need to approve the board. Pat's sending out the RFP, right, with the athletic, ready to consult service. I just have one more question. Sure. So, after we hire a resident engineer or a contractor, is your role continuing here as the project manager for the town? Do we have a project manager and a resident engineer? Yes, yes. Certainly, if you want me to stay on, I mean, it is in my scope of work, the original proposal I wrote five years ago. Yeah, I think it's vital if you just stay on, because you know everything about this project, you know, we're getting to the construction phase. I think this is, you know, to take you off now, we'll put us back. Right. Because you don't know so many things about this project. You may have answers to right away, where somebody else wouldn't. We get lost. So the resident engineer, we're technically an history. Okay. So nobody here would have to. Right. It's important. Yeah. Okay. They would answer to me, I already approved their pay. You know, there is voices for payment. All right. And make sure that they're submitting their sort of my payrolls and everything else I need to do. Over the course of the construction phase. Excellent. Trying to make a motion. And so are you going to include them in the motion of your organization? Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. That's correct. That's what the motion would be. So I'll, I'll make a motion that Pat does submit this. And that he be retained as the project manager. Per his current contract? Right. Per his current contract. Okay. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor go right. Aye. Okay. Thank you. I'll send it out tomorrow. Okay. I gave them three weeks to come up with a proposal. So September 25th, which would be three weeks from tomorrow. September 25th. September 25th is when the proposal will be due and they see before then. And I will have to reconvene the resident engineer selection committee to review the proposal, review the proposal and study the cost proposal in particular and see who they have indicated would be on a project. And then furthermore, again, as previously discussed, we would have another meeting shortly thereafter to actually interview. Represent some hammer. And then we can throw out the critical questions that the committee has concerns. Okay. And that interview will be within hope for, right, or just the committee? Just the committee. Unless they're additional, if they're members of the select more interested, then more and more from the committee meeting. And here you're still recusing yourself. Yes, ma'am. Okay. And Mike just pointed out going forward with the committee because it is a committee of the select board, it does need to follow the open meeting law. So we will need to post it. Yeah, just make sure you coordinate with Sasha so she can do that and she'll get it up on the three places that we need to have that. All right, anything else for Pat? Thank you, Eddie. Thank you. Thank you very much. The correct and final version is I wanted to just distribute them with the, which is what we'll handle and we'll receive tomorrow. Thank you. Thanks. Are you guys all here for the trustees or public comments? I'm here for the trustees portion. Oh, everyone. All right. I'm here for public comments. All right. Sure. As well? All right. I want to state your name and go right ahead as you can. Sure. Hi. My name is Leslie Pauliwinski. I live up on Paddy Hill Road, about the Filmer's old place, I'm happy with that. We love living in Wartown and two very young children. And I'm here tonight in support of moving the library, moving the library temporarily. As I understand it, you're considering a decision between moving it to the top floor of the town hall or possibly above this building, right? In this case. In this case, okay. I just wanted to share with you my enthusiasm for seeing the library in the top, or in the top floor of the town hall. I think that having the library is a magnet in our town would boost everyone's spirits. I had a wonderful encounter. I think I met Mr. Huguidboom. Good afternoon. Oh, okay. Thank you. Good afternoon. Okay, this spring I was digging a sand pit for my little guy who's about a month and a half and had responded to a post on Corncourt Chore on for some free rocks on Bradley Road. And went to Deb Orr's house and she wasn't there. But Mr. Huguidboom had come for the same purpose to get some of the rocks. And we ended up talking with Mike Deem. Yeah, Deemoses. Deemoses. And anyhow, I had this great experience of being alone in this project, thinking I'm gonna just schlep these rocks back to my house alone with my kids. But met Mr. Huguidboom, met Mike. We had this great conversation for half an hour. We chatted about the school. We chatted about the town, what we love about it. And I went from just being sort of solo in my day to having this really uplifting encounter that even imbued our whole project. And I feel like a library space that's inviting, that's bigger, airy, and a very pleasant place will draw a lot of our townspeople, a lot of the young families, a lot of the older folks. And it's those little chance encounters that fuel our lives. Not only our happiness as a community and our town, but just as individuals. And so, as I've heard some talk about the different spaces that are considered, and I hope that keep me in mind, the attractiveness of a space really can make a break it. And the more people that we draw into that place, we'll just improve all of our lives. I think, and we have a really strong librarian, we have enthusiastic, dedicated board on the library trustees, and I think now's the time to really build on that. And our town is growing, our families are growing, and we all really love the library and want to continue meeting each other and enjoying a wonderful space. Thanks for listening. Thanks. Thanks, Rosa. John, would you build me your rocks? Yeah, still build them, still retain them all. I mean, you guys can do a community project together. Yeah, exactly. Any of the guys who are supposed to speak for the public? Hi, I'm Susan Morgan, I'm a neighbor of the library. I agree with everything you said. Libraries are evolving as more than just places to get a book, they've become more of a community hub. And I think course is just wonderful with the broad range of things that she's offering in the community. And I think it's very limited where it is now because she doesn't have a space. And I have to speak to safety because I have a front and center view of people coming and going at the library. And there have been times when I hold my breath, when a parent is coming out with a young child and not holding their hand, turning around to maybe supervise another one, and the traffic's a little bit deep away. It is really dangerous. And if that safety aspect to me is huge. So if they were able to be to the town hall or here and have safer parking, I think that would be tremendous. Also having had a husband who was disabled, access and accessibility is a big one to me too. I think it's difficult for people to get out of the car or walk over the steps and in. And not having a bathroom is a huge deterrent. I was going to suggest that maybe in solidarity this left board used the portal app out there all winter just to kind of, you know, embrace the experience. But obviously I really would love to see it in a more accommodating space. Thanks, any comments, Susan or David? That's it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Question, one thing Susan, certainly we, you know, I understand that the facilities over there are rough and I don't, you know, and thank you for putting up with the Macquarie, certainly. You know, but it's certainly not just like word that is saying, no, you can't do, you know, these type of things. So I want to make sure that, you know, you feel comfortable that if you have places that you want to use the facilities as well, make sure you're using them. Any other comments for public comments? Hi, my name is Kristin, I live up on the house road. I have been a volunteer from the time that Paulie Bentley got the library going through a number of librarians. I think Corey is doing a great job also. And I will, you know, I'm also concerned about things that have already been mentioned. The lack of parking, I had kind of a close encounter myself today, I pulled into Susan's driveway to wake well a patron because only two cars can park three at the most. Someone was leaving, two patrons were leaving and I was waiting for them to leave so I could take my shift at the library. And as it happened, the one patron was, I didn't even realize she was in her car, she was pulling out. And I was getting ready to pull out of Susan's because one of them had left already. And I don't know how close we were but it was just one of those times that, you know, I'm surprised that more of those kinds of things happened. And the size is constricting the size of the library but it has been going for, I don't know how many years now since Paulie, five or six years. This is not a passing thing. I mean, I think that we have people who are interested who use it and I think that, you know, be wonderful to get established. I think it would do nicely for the, I think the books would warm up the town hall, you know, the environment in the town hall. I don't think it would be in the way of even social gatherings. I think it would be nice, you know, the family wanted to have a reunion there. It would be great. It would, the walls would be lined with books. I mean, I think that would be wonderful. So, I'm just speaking in favor of, even temporarily moving somewhere else. Any other comments on public comment? My name is Chris Stevenson, so move more down. I certainly agree with all the comments that are made and I think the thing that speaks to me the most is the time that's gone by to make a decision and build in some improvements and the longer you let time pass, the more opportunities you might miss. So, I think there's some immediacy and urgency and while you might need more time to make a bigger picture decision, I think the temporary solution to make accommodations for the winter months for safety is a further risk, for comfort is a further risk. And I think that it really requires the select board to step up and help push us forward. So, why don't we, I wanted to public comment before we get to the official library trustee time just in case other people were coming from the public, but so why don't we go ahead and move into that. Cory, do you want to speak or who wants to? We have two more trustee's who are supposed to be here. Okay. We wouldn't mind. I don't mind waiting, that's... There we go, thank you for the timing. We think you guys might go see, I don't want to see. But nobody wanted. So, let me just interrupt just one second on that. Prior to that, we had just heard ladies and gentlemen there was some support from Chris, Kristen, Susan, and Lisa. We want gentlemen. Right, Chris, right? I thought you said ladies. Oh, I addressed the ladies today, I'm sorry. But I also wanted to say you also had, there was a letter from Lisa Mason who couldn't attend tonight's meeting, but wanted a letter of support and also Brian Moore and Emily Johnson as well. So I just wanted that on public hand. So now, let's go ahead and move in. We have the trustee's here. You guys want to move up in everyone. I just move forward and more make a conversation rather than presenting anything. That's under camera. Are we all moving out? Or just... Yeah, everyone's not here. People used to hide in the back room. Yeah. Yeah, we know we're there. What are you doing on the side? Yeah, sadly... Emily and I were walking and we were saying, we don't really want to spend that financial power. We need to get here. So we need to get right up here. That way, everyone can hear a little bit better. Just tilt the floor, I think it would work. Yeah. Oh, that's... So afterwards, what we do, typically, is we move the table into the middle of the room and we have races around with our chairs. Late nights, like we're at fun, I think I want to know. Yes. All right. Do we want to talk about... You all received the letter from the trustees? No. No. Oh dear. So you're slightly surprised to see us. Yeah, I was trying to, as you were talking, I was trying to put things together. I think I know what you're going to ask for, but just what you said. I have a number of bullet points on the sheet of paper in front of me with two question marks after each. Who is... So number, are you going to pull it up and maybe read it all out? We might as well read it, right? Yes. Should we roll back now? Yes, everyone's... It went forward. Yeah. Did you get anything special? I even checked my set. It was in there, but... We'll have to make sure you have everyone's addressed one forward by 12. Yeah, there's something on the 28th of August, I believe, on my birthday. So this is... Well, should I... I'll send it to you guys after I read it as well. Dear Morton, select four. We are happy to report that we have a successful summer at the library where 400 youth and adults across the Mad River Valley found amazing opportunities to explore the wonders of our universe from learning about the weird and wild organisms that live on our earth to celebrating Apollo 11's moon landing. Due to grant funding, we received... We were even able to provide a local team intern the chance to gain practical work experience as she gave back to and reconnect with her town over the summer. The library provided our patrons with new and relevant resources to satisfy their curiosity and a friendly staff to help answer questions. Our circulation, reference health and programs were hard at work helping our community during these warmer months. It is our topmost goal to continue offering these kinds of supports to our small town community as we enter into the snow-filled months. To be able to do this effectively, we would like to discuss with you some issues that are obstacles to providing the service we think more towners deserve. Several factors have led us to believe that it would be in the best interest of the town and the library to occupy a different location from November 1st through May 1st. Last winter, the portable toilet became frozen in place and could not be emptied or replaced or cleaned. This created an uncomfortable environment and a deterrent both for patrons and staff. Snow and cold makes access to the toilet difficult and creates a more dangerous parking situation. Winter conditions also make it difficult for some of our patrons to enter the building safely. Temporarily moving to a location with better access, a parking lot and indoor plumbing would enhance our ability to provide excellent service to our residents, as well as providing a work environment that respects the most basic needs of our employees. We propose moving our new books and children's selection where most of the circulation happens to an alternative location. The rest of the collection would still be available as requested by patrons. Two potential spaces we have identified are the meeting area of the town office building or the upstairs of the town hall. Our materials would be arranged in such a way as to allow all the usual functions of the space to continue. As you have previously mentioned and appreciated, the number of programs offered by the library have increased significantly in the last few years. This has been due in part to a policy agreed upon in 2016 to maximize the required paperwork for many of our small and local program leaders. However, the recent changes in personnel in the town office presenters are now being required to submit more paperwork for each of our programs. We believe this will be a hindrance to most of the people we can afford to contract with who are quite small and will be unable to provide the necessary documentation. We understand that while the auditors from VLCT recommend that the town collects these documents from all vendors, it is not required for those who are being paid less than $600 per year by the town. While we understand the desire to mitigate risk to the town, we would like to request the select board of doctor policy that allows the paperwork to be waived for small and local presenters offering programs at the library and there is an attachment as well that does support the project. We believe this will allow the library to continue to offer a robust variety of programming that has been so welcomed and encouraged at residents of more town to engage in a more vibrant community. We thank you for your time in reviewing these issues. We will have a few representatives from the library board of the next select board meeting to further discuss the items in this letter. We look forward to working with you and to continue the great work our library is doing for our community. Sincerely, the Morton Memorial Library Trustees. And I will now make sure that that gets in. Okay. Thank you. Do you wanna add anything to that? Well, why don't we talk about the paperwork issue first? Sure. So I have a great working relationship with Sheryl and Sasha and I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble, but there's an interpretation of the insurance requirements that Sheryl did not share with Sheryl in. And so Sheryl waived this paperwork that was required a business card and a contract and a certificate of insurance or another contract with the town so that small artists, you know, somebody wanted to lead a tour in the woods or foraging trail or even someone like me, as you know, on Mrs. Claus every year. And in the past, I've been, oh, don't tell anybody, oh, there's kids here. Okay. The last years I haven't charged for it, but it would include someone like me who just did that and was gonna get a little stipend to thank you for doing that. So this is a copy of the correspondence back in 2016 that I had with Sheryl, where she said she sat down with an auditor and that they would waive this paperwork. And then my back and forth was Sheryl Lynn about it, who is requiring the paperwork from every vendor. So I brought copies for her. So Sasha, do you know Sheryl Lynn's take on this? So Sasha, you're saying as a system treasurer, would you guys take on this? It doesn't matter how much the dollar amount is and Sheryl Lynn has confirmed it with the LCT that we need to have a non-sertificate of insurance or a non-work employee agreement. And that's different from you saying there's $600? Right. Sheryl Lynn told me that it was required over 600 and recommended by the auditor under 600. I talked to some other towns and some towns require it, some towns don't. And so I appreciate that Sheryl Lynn was trying to mitigate exposure for the town, but it seems like a very conservative approach that is really, I think, going to impact how many programs we can offer. I do know that as far as workers' compensation, the state ultimately recently went through review of that in terms of making sole proprietors have workers come. Which, of course, doesn't make any sense at all. So they figured that out. So that piece I could refer you to the state before I thought that's currently handled. That's only for the workers' compensation. That was in the last three years. Yeah. And that's how it goes on. Well, one of these people aren't sole proprietors. You know, Jeannie doesn't do that. Make sure no kid came in. Right. Because she's a sole proprietor of missed cloths. A lot of people who have expertise or skills that they're sharing with us but don't necessarily have a business. Oh, I understand the rest of the problem. I'm just mentioning that that piece is coming. Gotcha. Thank you. I think that we need to, and I respect Sheryl Lynn's take on it, and I respect the trustee's take on it, but I think we should, why don't we have Ron just take a quick look at this. He's our kind of attorney. Let's give him the opinion from Ron how we can get this taken care of. When I say opinion, let's try to find a solution to this without having to have people run through hoops and pay dollars that we don't have. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Right, so let's just try to fit, so we'll send Mr. Ron and ask him that question if we could in the morning to look into this. What the solution is not, we're not looking for a problem, we wanna find what is the solution to how we can get this done? And maybe it's another way where we have to have someone sign or something, but it seems ridiculous that, in the instances where people are volunteering or getting paid a minimal stipend that we're requiring undue steps, and I understand Sheryl Lynn does a wonderful job and she's protecting us as a community, but there's gotta be, we just need to figure out the solution. So I think that is doable. Thank you. And I'm certainly not looking to undermine the problem. No, no, no, we understand that. And I don't think anyone does. I mean, we're all here just to try to find the best solution to a seemingly easy problem that we're talking to government here. Right. We may not be so easy. I think we're looking for a proposal that we can put to Sheryl Lynn and have her say, okay, this looks all right. Right. That's the solution. I don't know. We're looking for that everyone is happy as our treasurer who is looking at where our responsibilities in us is trying to provide services and such for everyone else. As far as moving temporarily, I think that's probably a good idea. What building I'm not sure. Yeah, I was, when Marx came up about a year, this space, there's my good old building. There's my good old building. Can we get some more detail on that? Like how many square feet are required for what we want to move so we can... Yeah, I think what we need to do, we just can't say, yeah, we're going to move the library door there tonight. We need to figure out what your plan is and kind of an idea where we all work together to try to make it work. I mean, first of all, I think as a town, we need to, as we said, give these people somewhere where they can work, that have a toilet, has a sink, bear a minimum. And there's a lot of concern as we all know that change or things moving quickly are happening. So there's a lot of things that we need to try to respect and I need silence this to make it work successively. So I think we need to get a few more people just involved with the process that we're going to move this forward temporarily, but we want to get some more input on what you're doing, how to best do it, and then get some input from the people who do things here. We do elections over there, any other events that might be coming up. So we can say, all right, how are we going to accommodate these events coming up? We have this plan, whether it's the, and I don't know what is planned there, or what's not planned there, or what may be coming up that people haven't planned yet, but I think that we should try to make it work. Well, I think we need some information to try to make it work, not only square footage, but hours and see what we can squeeze in and where. And I think without looking at what you need, I can't say anything further, but I'd like to know what you need. All right, and that's what we've found. Great, you know what I'm talking about. Well, so as we proposed in the letter, we wouldn't move the entire collection of books, that's about 6,000 books, but anecdotally and data-wise, people of 85, 90% of the time are looking at the new books or the children's books. The new books take up probably six or seven feet tall by four feet wide, and then the children's books are a little more extensive. We could probably not bring them all, but bring in enough of a healthy selection. So would you bring, what would you have for bookcases? So the children's room has removable, the picture bookshelves that we had built a year and a half ago. We had them built in such a way that they could be used in other spaces. So those hold quite a bit. I don't want to give you a wrong number without looking it up, but in the hundreds of picture books fit in that. There is one bookshelf out in the hallway that we put three books on that could be used. There are some bookshelves upstairs. I'm not sure if they belong to a historical society or to the building, but they are lower, so they would, you know, say fit under these windows. There's probably three or four of those up there, so. And what sort of hours are you looking for? I'm looking to anticipate we would keep the same hours we have. Part of suggesting this space was the understanding that the office side can be locked so that it doesn't have to all be open with town office employees here at the same time necessarily. Didn't it was just another option? Sure, sure. Trying to make accommodations for the winter for our patrons and volunteers and staff. So do you think this space is large enough for your winter needs? I think it could be. It could be. You don't think the down scares of the town hall is large enough? I think it floods. I mean, I've brought tables. It does not flood. We have pictures. We've had a very small amount of water down there recently, but nothing like before. I returned the tables right after the moon landing party and there was standing water on the floors in the kitchen closet and the maintenance closet under the counter where the bunch of ants go. 21st. I know you saved people. I got pictures. I thought this summer there was a huge rainstorm that night. That we party to the moon and back in. Did you report that? Yes, I think Chris sent an email to you guys. Because I mean, according to Katrina, there wasn't. I think she chimed in on that email thread also. My understanding was a very small amount of water. I was impressed that you wouldn't want to put books in there or have someone sitting down there for six hours at a time. Insurance up covering books with water damages. The kids aren't gonna want to go if there's no water, they're gonna be really aware of that. We didn't actually have the building tested for mold. I'm gonna make sure there's nothing like that. John, any other questions? No. I didn't inspect it, but I mean, as I said, I just got the report from Katrina. Seemed to really downplay it, so. I was thinking that this space is an interesting idea because one thing is we don't really want to heat the town hall through the winter. It's quite expensive and this space is heated, but this space is also used for other committee meetings or the board meetings, et cetera. So the schedule may be not quite what you're looking for. Well, Tuesdays we close at six, right? Which would be perfect. Right? Oh, Mondays. Mondays are the day. Oh, right. Mondays we currently close with seven. We could change to six. If we had two public, you know, that would come and join the meeting. Yes, and then people could check out a book too while they're here. So I understand there's definitely some logistics. I also just want to call out that all the public comment we heard tonight were people interested in being in the town hall. So just put that out there as something to recognize. People are excited about it. I know that there've been people that aren't that have come here, but there's a lot of excitement in the community over it. And as a temporary solution, that keeps it from being a big, huge permanent change all at once. Yeah. I think we're gonna need, you said you had some costs. Someone had some numbers. I heard you guys talking. He brought some numbers with you as well. We didn't want to put a lot of work into it. Got an understanding of where you all stood. Well, I would like to see more. I think it's a good idea, whether it's moving here or moving over there. I think it's a good idea to move somewhere for the winter. I agree. We can't keep on like we have. I tend to be a little more blunt than the rest of the people on the board. They're more diplomatic. I wrote the original paragraph about the moving and my more graphic details were edited out. But the Porta Potta situation last winter was not good. No, I think you heard from this board that no one's saying, hey, we're not interested in this at all. We're saying we agree with you, that we need to do something and we need to move forward now. We appreciate that. And I think we just need to have a few more details and then look at both spaces. And I'd be happy to walk around with you or Corey or whoever and so that we could come back to the board and talk and say, all right, this is what we've found. And then make some recommendations. Whoever wants to join will be welcome to join. And then we can, we're meeting again in two weeks. I think we're all here. I think I plan on being here. And we can make a decision then. And between now and then, I don't know who wants to reach out to me. I'm on vacation next week, so. Sorry. But let me, I would like to be a little clear on what sort of information we need. Obviously, the square footage of space. Yeah. Or maybe even a couple of alternative layouts because I think just a square footage number might not meet your needs. And we may need to be able to move stuff around to fit. So just give us an idea of what you need. And maybe if you could check with Cheryl and just to see what we have on the books as far as plan, you know, whatever happens over here. I know we got town meeting coming over there, we got it. I don't know whether they slug the bizarre over there or whatever things that we have over there. So we was all right, this is, you know, so we kind of said, all right, during this period, this is what we would do. Right. This is the solution here. If someone wants to have that family thing, this is what we'd feel comfortable with books being out and such, you know, as a group, this is how we feel comfortable with the tapestry that's there and such. How are we gonna protect that? Some of those things are questions that should be answered. In terms of cost, I believe the town halls already kept in the 60s at all times now. Do you have a recommendation for how we can go about estimating the additional cost? I do. We can go back and look at two or three years ago. We had a group in there that rented it for the winter from the high school that was a transitional housing type program or something like that. And they met, I think every day during the week and the place was pretty much on Saturday I think most of the winter. And I don't think, I mean, it was more expensive than usual but it wasn't a huge general thing. But we can look into that. What we'll also, what we can do is look at transferring budget from this building, just what we're doing here. We also got a budget on this building. So there's, but those are the things that we can put together so that everyone's clear of where it's coming from. I don't know if there would be any moving costs or construction with any bookshelves or anything like that. The only good thing I can think of would be wireless, right? But again, I think we could just shift over. It's just wireless in the building now. Oh, okay. When we, like we have town meeting there, they hook it up. And I think you just hook it up for a day though because when I do library programs, there is not a lot. Right, but I guess my point is it could be turned on and off. And throw it out quickly. And then we wouldn't need it at the current time. Right, so I think those are just what, those are the type of causes just transferring. So that's not a big issue. It's more of those hard costs, the one type of things of building something, changing something or such and so. Oh, right, another number that would help is a typical maximum number of people. The average is eight to 10 a day. I have to do that number. I don't think we care how many per day we occupancy is what I'm thinking of. How many people we're talking about having in the space? Maximum. Is that one time? Yeah. Yeah. I don't, because the library fits so many. That's what I'm saying. I'm just wondering if we could just run spaces a little bit more than what came currently. We would never exceed, say, town meeting. Right. Or come close to it. I wouldn't think of that. I don't even need to worry about often some problems there. Yeah. That would be the best thing to do. That would be a good problem to have. Yeah, actually, that's true. If you do it here and it gets too full, that's a good thing that we can do with it then. All right. So we will put you on the schedule for next meeting. Okay. Someone's gonna reach out to me. And the rest of us will. And what is the date of that? Let's do that sooner than later. We chat sooner than later. Schedules to get coordinated and such. And then I'll check with anyone else to see if they wanna join us on the board. And you can check with whoever. And then a few of us can just walk around and point out that it's been bad. All right. Jason, you answered that one. No, I'm just thinking about how often the listeners are in this space. Yeah, I'm just wondering, because having lots of little kids running around is a little distracting for them, but it's not frequent. So I'm trying to think about what we're going on. They can go work at the other building. They used to enjoy the party. Well, I don't mean that. Obviously they need to be there for four or six hours, but an hour or two here and there. And you said you did speak with Cheryl on? About what? About this space? Well, we thought we had sent the letter. Yeah, she had sent it, so I'll be right back. But apparently not. Or we all didn't get it, one of the two doesn't matter. We'll move forward. All right, so why don't we, unless there's any other questions, concerns, we can move forward. Okay. We will get back to you. All right, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Nice night. You as well. Thank you so much. So, do we have any other old business? Anyone wants to address? I think there's more news. There's more news. You have to take more visitors, someone has to. There's more news. You don't want to have to. You don't want to have to. I think I don't feel being more visited. Sasha, any news on County Hall of Stonehenge? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Question for you. Wait, wait, hold on a second. This is obvious, right? Question is. The question is, well, go ahead. Is, so we were looking, more of this was for quarry or so, so you guys can propose to her. We were looking for a town hall custodian, someone to work in the town hall. So, maybe we should talk about that as well, because minding that, taking over that role, which is not a bad role, it's just making sure the town hall is up. You know, if you guys are gonna be there, so. Is it more like opening and closing the building or maybe it's. More like opening, closing, building. Sweeping. Sweeping a little bit. Sometimes sure it's clean, so. Most people rent and go in there. They clean up after themselves, but there's, you know, there's sweeping and there's little things to do to clean up. We were actually hoping to piggyback off of who are new hired for a custodian for the town hall to work at the library. Yeah, no. Because the people work as a whole about, well, time and some free. Maybe we can work together, yeah. Have you found anyone that would be. No, I mean we're looking at 25 to $50 a month. It's such a small town for me. I mean, we've gotten any, we've gotten much interest at all. All right, so yeah, so Corey, one of the things we were talking about was you're around there all the time or somebody is, whether it be any interest in, I like to say a custodian because that just sounds like you're cleaning all the time, but it's more of a, you know, opening, a caretaker of the town hall, opening, closing it. Were you just talking about like now as is or if you were occupying Well, kind of both. So just, we're just throwing it out here. You don't have to make a decision right now, but when you're on vacation thinking about how you're going to earn a little bit of money. Sure it'll come up. Yeah, yeah. I'm planning to buy university. Oh, awesome. Congratulations. How many games have we talked about? Well, if it does, we're looking for somewhere to fill that need and we were talking the last meeting and we said, well, you know, someone brought up your name just because you do spend a lot of time there and things going on, even if your husband wants to, you guys want to share the job, you know. Do you like that Chris? I'm sorry. Yeah, pretty far. Yeah. You know, obviously we pay really good here. So yeah. But think about it anyways. I don't think about it. I don't know that I would take on the like maintenance role, but I can certainly take on coordinating and opening and closing and helping people with the table and all that. I don't think about it. Yeah, no, that would be the type of stuff that we're talking about. I don't think getting a kind of maintenance. I know Katrina used to do some maintenance type of thing and that was just, she wanted more hours for her son. All right. If you want the pain in there, you want to do those type of things. It's an opportunity, so. Okay. So this is the thing that after and in the kitchen, which are probably less favorable roles? Yeah, it does come to that as well. But most, again, you know, I think, you know, that is what it is. You know what, it's sort of not a great job when you have to do them, but most people are pretty respectful when they go there and the people, because the people who are signing contracts that are going there and having a reception or something like that, they can't leave it a disaster, you know, because otherwise they'll, you know, they'll have to pay extra. We'll bring someone in a professional to clean it if it's something like that. The rule for third parties has been you use it, you clean it. Right. Now what happens, you know, if another, if a town group goes in there and we can't find anybody to do that work, I don't know what happens. Anybody who rents it, it's a security deposit. So I mean, if they leave it in this, then they don't get the security deposit. So I mean, there is incentive for them to clean it. Yes. Well, I mean, I've gone in there to do programs after other events and I would agree that everyone is generally respectful. Right, yeah. Or if you can, if you think that someone, and you guys are looking for, some do a little bit of work up there, but they say, you know what, we need more hours. Yeah. You know. Because we were running in the same paperwork kind of issue, which makes a lot more sense when you're contracting with some of the cleaning. Absolutely. But it's been hard to attract anyone that has the necessary paperwork to clean them up. Mm-hmm. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Have a nice day. All right, is there any new business? Is there? Well, we got it all. The reports, there's an indication. We can move back to that. I just want to get this out of the way. And I did want to address some old business. All right. You guys want a business job? Yeah. First, the harvests of the forest land. You know, I meant to ask Michelle when she was in here, if she had spoken with the other members of the rec committee because she said that she was going to and recommended we set up a committee for that purpose because she said that there wasn't anything on their plan because we already have a plan. But as I said, that plan is outdated and it talks about joint land when it's not joint land. So I mean, it definitely needs to be redone. So I guess I'll have to reach out to the rec committee. Okay. And see what's going on in that. And then the HUSD merger update, Tom, we're going to talk with Caitlin Monster at some point. Yeah, I could give her a call actually in the morning. Okay. And just give her a heads up. There was some letter alone. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I think we're excited today. I did. Okay, good. And I asked Sasha to send that out tomorrow. Okay. I'm just going to give her a heads up. Just a nice letter, but just really addressing what we talked about in the summer and now that they're back in session, we want to make sure that those questions are come on. Just out there. Refresh. Okay, refresh, exactly. And if she had requested to meet with us at some point. Yeah. And I spoke with her earlier this year and that's when we had a very good conversation. Okay. Yeah. And I know, I think she reached out to Jason at 1.2. I don't know if you guys have heard of her. Yeah, I didn't know if she reached out to everybody. I know that she reached out to both Tom and myself. I think there was someone saying, I think there was someone saying you had Kate and Hoss for the chair. But no, okay. Oh, yes. That's right. That's right. It was quite a while ago. I returned the call right now. Yeah, right. So yeah, so that's going out there. Okay. Sidewalk project. That was nice. The path was in. Looks like we'll finally get that put out to bit this fall and I guess commence construction of the spring. I'm not new with the finance committee. John, we took care of one client, one client. So I should get a little business to be cut down. Actually have some notes from the finance committee. One of the things that came up at our last meeting was if Stefan keeps records on the fires and also the lifetime of uniforms. And the other thing for both. And so we're suggesting. So we're suggesting lifetime uniforms. Yeah, in other words, the life expectancy for the uniforms so that we could plug that into a capital budget and figure out when we have to replace them because they're expensive items. And just, you know, they must keep records on fire calls and so on. So. And you want those records or? It would be good. We'd like to have access to pretty much anything we can that has to do with anything, any other finances. And budget. We have to look actually, we just need to look in the fireman's report and the sheer see if they put in how many where they responded to the search. Yeah, they have it. So. Okay, good. And they went to like, for instance, four carbon monoxide activations, five smoke alarm, 10 variable one chimney too. Yeah, so that would be, that was that. And then the other thing came up with, for both Tom and Ray's maintenance schedule on the, all the equipment. Okay. Do they have one? I think they don't have the exact schedule. I'm sure that they keep track of the number of hours of the equipment and have a target of how many hours they want before they change the oil or they just change the oil. Check in to see if they have like a normal like PM, like your guys at the shop, do they have like a PM sheet where they say, all right, every day they walk through and they do a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to have one of that stuff. And then on a monthly there, you can pull something, you know, maybe something that you guys haven't worked, you know, going to the. Yeah. Yeah. And say, look at, what are you, how do you keep all this nice stuff nice? Yeah, that's it exactly. You know, is it, you know, and this kind of idea for there because, and that's, I'm sure it's something that consciously that Martin keeps or not, but it should be in case anyone's not here or new, we should have it so that anyone can walk into the job and complete the next maintenance that's due on a truck or heavy equipment piece. And one of the things that we were interested in is, is it possible that some changes should be made to improve equipment life and thereby save us some cash flow? Right. And if we don't know what those practices are at this point, I don't know if we can improve them. And so I know that sometimes hire somebody, you know, an independent contractor to do just that. Right. And that's where I think we benefit that we have guys down there that can do that. And Sean, that actually liked doing it. I mean, I mean, whenever I feel it's one nice thing, I think they're doing the maintenance because we never run it down day and I go there. That kid's up to his elbows and breeze working on something or maintaining something. So I think they're doing it, but we need some practice. Safety and document. The other thing, Sasha, have you guys, I know there was another request out there, but have you seen anything as far as we were looking to get some kind of reporting system as far as the guys that are, you know, they're working on row number 17. And, you know, we were trying to figure out how best to report that so that you guys can. That gives your damn career. Yeah. I'm not sure if there's any feedback yet. All right. If you can look on your side and I will ask Martin on his side. So we were talking about that and the finance committee as well because anything that helps get money. Yeah. And also usage of equipment is, you know, if there's anything they can be used to track that, that's very helpful to predicting a lifetime. Oh, and there's a lot of things that we can use that for even for in-kind services. I know we have some projects coming up where we can use some of that. So if we have a way that's sort of viable, documentation or whatever, but that would be better. So I will try to, in the next couple of days, see those guys down there, rain you the same and both of us, we should be able to get the message to them. And we have addressed. Oh, and sorry. One other aspect of that is it might be helpful to offer any help that you really, you know, computer systems. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's one of the things that I'm talking about is not somewhere, let's all work together, work with Sasha, work with Cheryl, and work with those guys is something that everyone can work with that's not benefit, not causing someone to put in another 10 hours of administrative time that they're not. I don't want to do it. He's not filling out his papers. We have a really good communication partner and I have been working really close with him. That's awesome. And he spent a good 15, 20 minutes today going over time sheets and what they did these certain days and making sure that the grant things were coded correctly so that it was flagged for Cheryl and. Oh, great. Awesome. We'll continue that. The relationship is working well. So is that in a format that shows us what people are working on every day? They have this worksheet that they hand in with their time sheets like they'll put down if they worked at the school and be row zero zero and what equipment they used, how long they were there, material, what tools. So we could end up looking at what gets done in the season and year. Yeah. Okay. Well, that was a little more than that. I wouldn't do it with it, but he might. Thanks. All right. As I look at the old business, the planning commission vacancy, that's taken care of, right? The planning commission vacancy. You guys filled that, right? Yes. Yes, yes, yes we did. Okay. So that could come on there as well. Is the whole question about an alternate settle? On the, that was the DRB. That was DRB. Yeah. Lone Pine, that's, I just want to get more that we can just chuck off. Yeah. All right. So we're out of business, John, and in new business. I think we've been through new business. No one had anything. Reports of communications. So shall we have for us, anything? I don't really have much. I just wanted to point out that the guys have been doing an awesome job getting over here ready for more fast. So the net was taken down today, and the pictures are all gone. I just think that they've been doing a great job. And I wanted to let you guys know there are no delinking taxes right now. Wow. What? Wow, that's pretty awesome. There are no delinking taxes right now. Let's hope we can say that on November 2nd. Say it. It's still, wow. Good. And that's, so how much have we taken in this summer? But, I can just wait that much. Well, that's all right. You know, maybe next time, just let's know. Because usually it's, I can actually, I can just look at my report and see what we had out. But it'd be interesting to see. Because we always plan on around $50,000. We don't put it in the budget, but I'm thinking in the back of my mind. You know, let's get that in the morning. Do you know roughly how long it takes to reach? A couple of days. It was really, Martin was fast. How many people were on? I think it was just him. Wow. Okay. Chains off. Cool. Yeah. So on the communication, we all settled in Katrina as far as her pay. There was an issue there about what she deserved an extra month. And I think your explanation was good. Was that the end of it? Yeah, I didn't have any reply to that. You know, I didn't reach out any further, but it was clear that she pretty clear I couldn't reach out if there were any questions in her. I think obviously in the email, she just wasn't clear on six months, or I don't know, whatever. So I think that's fine. Okay. I haven't heard anything and I'm sure we would have at this point. Yeah. Just going back to no business there, you know, I did want to talk more about the library, how we're going to go forward. Yeah. As far as, I like to participate in trying to make this work. You know, I thought we could have a special meeting next Monday, but you know, Cory I think is not going to be here. Right. Right. You know, we wanted to have a special meeting before things get too, you know, before we know it, November 1st we'll be here quickly and I'm sure they need to do a lot of prep work, but you know, whatever, whenever you figure out there, you know, I like to, I think I'm available most nights and separate Thursdays. All right. So if you want to set up some work. I'll definitely reach out to you. If you can meet during the day right now. I can either, I'm on the road and I'm just far away usually. So that we don't have to warn it, I would, what I would ask if anyone else has any questions as before the next meeting or if they want to address as we're looking at things that they could forward to Sasha and Sasha could send them to me. Okay. And I, what I want to do is I just want to walk around and then take a look at the spaces and kind of get some ideas and let's ask some questions there. So then we can sit around this table again. We can say, hey, we've thought of this, we've thought of that. You know, we can just look at it really and try to make a recommendation while we're at work. I would like to find whether it's here, whether it's over there or somewhere else, somewhere where they can be at least on a temporary basis. Because it is a crappy place over there to be in the winter. I mean, that's not right. And the thing that I have most concerns of being is the safety over there. So I'm sure we can find some alternative at least for a short time. But happy to have you Ray. And I'm glad you want to join. At least my immediate reaction there is I'm a little weary of upstairs in the town hall as temporary, simply because it will be very hard to change. Yeah, so. Well, I think if we make it clear from the start that we needed for the town hall meeting, I mean the town meeting. You know, I really think that we can make this work. Yeah, I mean, my big concern is the fact that, the town hall is the town's hall. Okay. And we're not having any vote and we're just making the decision. And I know it's temporary, but that's why, I mean, both Ray and I brought up the basement. I mean, I still think that that's a good temporary space. I think that's why we need to, that's why we want to walk with talk with some people and then that's why we need to work together on this. I think there's some solutions out there. But sitting around this table and just saying, hey, this, you know, let's get out there, let's try to talk and work. And then we can sit around and say, look, it's going to or not. But certainly nothing is going to be a permanent basis until there's a town decision on that. I was bringing that up more in terms of human nature, which is once they have something, Oh, certainly. I know once you can take it away. Yeah. That was all I was talking about. And certainly if there's a water problem, we need to fix that. Thanks. Right. I think that's a great point. And, you know, maybe when we're talking to Martin, we should talk to him about that. I think the only thing that can be done there and made early experiment was raised. Obviously it sits low. Water goes downhill. I mean, but if we put pavement in there and direct it away with, Yeah. I don't know. We've dug around that building so many times. No, it's just amazing. Working on a fix. Well, that's why I think the only thing is is on the top side of things is not letting the water get over there. Because when, and I thought everyone saw the pictures that Katrina sent. She did send some pictures at the end of July whenever that rainstorm was. And it was a short, one of those bursts, but there's so much water in it all. It goes in the door. It basically goes in the door, it looks like. It's just high enough that it's too much water. And even then, I was thinking, oh, we just need to channel it away. There's no rocket science with us. We channel away with a small asphalt burn or something that's taking the water and directing it into further away, down to the Johnny's Yard. I mean, so I understand that they're concerned because, I mean, there could be another hurricane, whatever, top was strong. But we haven't had any big issues there. That's where you almost got to get them to get in there and start using it and say, all right, we're going to put some of your books down here. There's going to be a comment, my share, there's no word to it. And I think, and we may want to, when we're doing this desire, we need to do something better on the floor. We want people to stay there and like it. And these would be a little bit more comforting. And, but frankly, the whole downstairs could actually be a, I think, cozy library type area because it's, I think even for those reading spaces sometimes you want more of a darker cozy kitchen. Just right there. But I mean, I don't want to push them one way or another, but I think, I mean, they're so, you know, they're looking at things just so much on one side and I think other people, the other, we need to try to compromise and get, let's look at both avenues. We may not be so bad if we try. That's why I just want to get in there with some people and say, all right, let's do something here, let's do something here. And then it might get some buying from some other people that are really concerned about the town hall being vascularized, you know, with racks and other things like that. I understand historical perspectives and you want to keep things. I like that as well. So there's, I've heard a lot of that. There's, I mean, but we aren't talking temporary and when I think of Deborah, I think it's something that's almost on wheels or something that's going to be in and out of here. It's the whole human reaction to taking away the temporary thing that I've worried about. That was nice. But you're right, take a look. Right, take a look. And then right up front, you've got to admit expectations are going to be right up front. So those are the expectations on our part. On yours, this is the expectation that needs to meet. And part of this expectation is, you know, April 1st will be having books down on the road or something. I'm curious what you find out. I think this space is very interesting. It's temporary. This wouldn't do for permanent. Yeah. But for something this winter, I think that's interesting. But you'll find out. Yeah, I think. That's why I asked about if they had approached her alone because I don't think she's going to go for that at all. We have different meetings in here too, during this. Yeah, it's a schedule. That's what it is. And I know that that's kind of locked, but I think. Yeah, yeah. And we have these computers and things out here. Yeah, there's no, I mean, it's. But this is, I don't think this would work. Mm-hmm. I don't even think we're at it. Now, only unless you're having, like, everybody in here. People were signing out their books from ahead of time, they were coming in and just picking them up here or something, which, you know, but that's not going to happen. So, anyway, so we'll move forward on that. I know we'll listen, and then we'll be back here at our next meeting and have, and I'm sure we have a good discussion. There's no intent. Any other communications? Should we have the next meeting at the town hall, or should we talk about it right here? Or should we, our manager, talk to you about it? Yeah, I don't think, yeah. I might be a good idea, but let's, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, I think that's a good idea, though, right? Unless something comes up, that's a good idea. We'll try to do that. There's no other communications that we have. We just have a few, Jason, if you want to take a look there. Jerry, if you want to start there. Sure. I am, so this was great on Cheryl and this, first big grant, the grant, yeah, that's awesome. $412,800 in federal funds. Your project was selected from among 31 applications statewide. Is that a state grant, or a federal grant? This is a federal grant. The talent will be responsible for 20% of the total project cost. So that's something we'll need to start thinking about. It will be roughly $80,000 if the cost comes in. What was estimated? It can be in kind, too, so... Right, so the type of things, the work that you were putting into this, make sure we're keeping track of even Cheryl and his hours. Because those can be used in time as well. Does the time we spend on the selection committee count? I mean, that's for the other project, but does that count as well? Well, I would say for that project. And I think as, there's a formula for what, boards can charge orders and look at, based on our expertise, or lack of their other. One of the things I was thinking, we still have money in the Deer Yard Fund, and that we, I know we use some for this project here. So we may want to consider using some for this as well. Again, another, that'll be awesome to have both sides of the road done here in the Georgia. I know, and in a simpler world, you could take that, get the other project, just go right up through it for $100,000, you could get the other side, you'd be done. Yeah. You know, in a simpler world. Yeah. Yeah, while you're here, guys, can you throw in another side, basically, as well? Yeah, you can do it. Before the road comes in, before the, you know, before the final payment comes in, just go up through it, just replace what's there, you know? No, it's a shame that it's. It's like, it gets so complicated. You're just redoing what's there. I have a dumb question, just as background, because I wasn't around until I wrote the project, started, do you know how people on that side feel about what reactions do people have? Do you know? I think they've, I don't know, in my experience, they've almost wanted to. They've wanted more. In fact, a few years ago, they had two or three of them came in and requested either, can you pull this wealth here out? You know, leave us something that's more, than able to log in or such. But yeah, they're very much in favor of, one of the things that we need to talk about, and you're gonna tell me or win this, we have our World War I meetings with us, with the people on that side, is one of the real hangups on this project, has been getting the temporary right away. Right. And so I think right up front, if we can address that with people, and what the expectation is, and what it encompasses, that would go a long way. If we could have formed some people to sign, sign right then, that would be nice. And have some of the people who've done all the research on the other side of the road, say, just sign it. Yeah. Because really that's held us up, months and months, really unequivocally for, and I understand people's concerns, they should have concerns, but a lot of those have met very quickly, and then still outside, so that can make a huge change with timeline. Also on the topic of sidewalks, was there any further news about what happened at this corner? No, I was told that it was a paving crew that was doing some work in Northfield. I had Sasha reach out to Northfield and it's piked, but they're not starting until mid-September. Yeah, very strange. And it was actually Wally that told me, that he saw it was a paving equipment, he knows his equipment, that was turning out there, and it was two weeks ago on Monday. And so I thought it would be easy enough, they have to be, you know, because there's no one else to pay, they can't go through the bridges there. Right. And they didn't go left, they didn't go right, so. And Northfield was doing work. Right. I thought that's what they were doing. Yeah. They were, I think, doing the culver. Yeah, the culver, yeah. Or maybe we could, maybe check back where the blouse was doing the work there. Okay. Because it began early, and then they went that way, and they really told me, is the people doing work on the other side of the road? That's okay. Yeah, and that's gonna come out at some point, but yeah, that's a mess, I should be taking care of it. So I'm gonna correct myself as well. Is there anything we need to do with you? That's a great thing. As far as taking it, pick it up. Or pick it up and put that in a household or something. You know what, I'm gonna give that another one, let me see what Martin said. Yeah, that's a question for Martin. But yeah, do you have any pictures of it yet? Nope. Maybe get a chance. I didn't. That's not like you couldn't notice that you hit something on the wall. God, I mean, what's wrong with people not to be responsible for something new? Kudos to Sheryl Lynn. Hit something here today from Ron. I will take a look at it tonight. I'll bring it by Sasha, so that she can let you know if there's anything that needs to be looked at, but this would be in reference to the Montgomery timber business. So stay on four to see something there. All right, so if there's nothing else. Did we already do the minutes? We have not, right? So, is there any? I'll just quickly read into it and write down the last few minutes for a moment. I just forgot. I can access it here. Oh, okay, thanks. Thanks for that. So you actually accepted in the Michelle's letter? Yeah. She called me when you guys didn't check. She said what? So, I might have been mistaken earlier when I said we filled the planning commission vacancy. I think I might have been confused with the DRV. You know, you're right. The Wyslton DRV, that's it. Yeah, it was Eric and it was the DRV that we took care of. I don't think we have filled, we haven't filled it yet. Okay, then we haven't. So we're planning commission vacancies tomorrow. And as far as, okay, so Craig was the ultimate, okay. Thanks for clarifying that. No, I'm recommending the rule of the methods of 819. Oh, yeah. I'll make a motion to approve the mandate. Just a second. Any further discussion? Jason? Yes. On the bottom of page one, I think what this was, tell me if you remember the same motion in the court, the treaty GMP says need to be moved to manage the table. I've already replaced the tree. It says in accordance with GMP's original statement to the hands, the meaning was if GMP does not in accordance with GMP's original statement to the hands, everybody agree with that? So just be here, comma, if GMP does not, comma. Because the work, exactly, you bring on. So that's on the public comment. Right on the second page, Sean. Yeah, on the bottom of the first page is where it starts. Okay, okay, here we go. So he's just answering what this, right? Right, let's go. Yeah. All right, all in favor? Good night. Good night. All right. As amended. As amended, sir. All right, thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Public TV.