 I see rap niggas all the time. I see that nigger. I look at jewelry, I see that nigger. I look at clothes, cars. He left so much for these niggas. Niggas a millionaires, they bosses. Cause he left with blueprint for niggas. I'm better cause there was a blueprint. Showed me how to do this shit, put this shit together when he went around. And he would have wanted these niggas to win. Niggas to not beef, not talk shit on each other. Get to the paper, get your motherfucking money. Hey, what's up? It's Carlos Miller. In case you haven't heard, we overheard the 85 South show have launched our own independent streaming service called channel 85. Once you sign up, you get access to the podcast a whole day earlier than anyone on YouTube. All of our live shows, independent specials, new shows like project Carlos 85. And we even got special offers and discount codes for merchandise and show tickets. It's on the 850 a month or $85 a year. That's channel 85.com or your iPhone, your Apple TV, Amazon, Firestick, Roku, Android is coming soon. That's channel 85. Make sure you subscribe. There you go. Playin' the music. I never kept none of the music when we recorded. I ain't wanna be, I ain't gonna be hoppin' in and out you talk, shit like that, you know? So I ain't never wanna, I ain't wanna be responsible for losing the music before the album come out. I was 12 when that came out. Come on, man. 12? I was 12. I'm just sayin' that's just how you are. When I hear this nigga, this nigga ain't sniggas. By the grace of God, this nigga got by. Cause everybody know me now. Nobody, this nigga was terrible. This nigga was terrible. This nigga was wet for the first thing. Wet, right around 1D. Sawed off shotgun, I sawed it in my bedroom, which fucked my leg up because I ain't know how long it was gonna take. I bought a pistol, I'm in a shotgun and sawed it off. And when I saw it, I was just right around lookin' for trouble and it gettin' up a little. Justin, I would be out, like China, what's up? You got an additional mic? Oh, go ahead, the pack. He said, round and round, lookin' for trouble. Whole shit now. This is the one B that go get it done with no, ride around with no shoes on. That nigga said, round and round, wet. Nigga don't understand that, y'all, play stupid. Off that frat. Big as a moth. He been cryin' but I now till droppin'. It just, he likes that sometimes. I now till droppin' down there. And it's an intensifying drug, right? So if you scared when you get wet, you're gonna be super paranoid. But if you cropped when you get wet, you can't calm, you can't calm. Like, everything can't take you down. That's done. You don't feel nothing, you know what I'm sayin'? So fightin' a wet nigga really don't get you nowhere. It altered the mental state. Like, it's an altered, it's for sure an altered mental state. It should make you get butt naked and all. Man, every time you get wet, it's a bad trip. It's all bad. I'm just lookin' at it like, for many years after I stopped gettin' wet, every night then, if you sweat or you do something, you can smell it comin' out. It's coming out your pores. It's coming out your pores. PCP, man. It's a very distinct smell. Yeah, that shit stinks. It's a very, very distinct smell. As soon as you, at every time I go to DC, I ain't never been to a concert in DC. Yep. Them niggas on that bird. You know it. I'm from the city. That's what it is, man. Them niggas, I remember walkin' in the popman's niggas with jugs of that shit, man. It's stinkin' like a motherfucker. And it's different in every city. Like, in the West Coast, it's shirms, so they would dip the shirming cigarettes in it. When we were there, we called it Fry-O-Amp. Y'all call it Little Boat. Yeah, Dipper or Little Boat. You know what I'm sayin'? In New York. It was down here. I'm glad I ain't gettin' there, sir. In New York, they can say it dust, right? Because New York, they dip tea leaves. They dip tea leaves and then they crumble the tea leaves and they lace the weed with that. Damn. That's how they get wet. With the tea leaves? Yeah. Actual herb. Like another tea leaf that's good for you. But you put that in the blunt, you get super high. One of the first stories I ever heard about my father, they was smokin' boat and the nigga got too high and got the trippin', and they, instead of giving them some milk to bring them down, they put them in a tub and ran water on them and nigga went into a coma. Two days. There. My cousin, I don't know him, I never met him, but one of the first stories I heard about my cousin, the nigga was smokin' boat back in the day. They was smokin' that shit, nigga. You know, because they make you hot. Like they say it make you real hot. That's why I fuckin' say it. Take your shit, take all your clothes off and shit. You said they get butt naked. Yeah, that's why the niggas get butt naked because they get real hot. Like you get internally hot, so nigga strip. So this nigga stripped down, went to chase him behind the metro bus. They ain't never seen him again. Yeah, that shit, I didn't, when I tell you, like my teenage years, that's when niggas was on. Like that's why I was on, I never did drugs, never did drugs, never did drugs until I went to college because, yeah, you know what I mean? I smoked dip against the nip, you know what I mean? Like that shit scared me so bad. Get away with gangsta nip, them was wild. Bein' in the streets, them was wild. It wasn't a gangsta nip story, there ain't nobody gangsta nip. It wasn't not even a story, it was a way of life. You go to nip them house, it was nippin', and it right. So, you have nip there, you have Klondike cat there, and you have like maybe Pharaoh and Frye and Icy Hyde, and then I'm from, I can't say I ever saw, everybody from Kiddo, I never saw a young K in there, but I don't forget the street military, but yeah, no, you goin' there to be no electricity and how it was a dope house, it was so dope out there. But niggas is wet, they eatin' cereal, they would eat Cap'n Crunch raw, like out in the box, and niggas would be slap boxin' and freestyle in this shit, just in a hot ass dope house with, yeah. You don't wet eatin' stuff in front of the chair, the roof of your mouth up. Man, I couldn't wait, I couldn't wait to get over there. I couldn't wait to get over there, and just bein' in that space and just, I don't know, man, where there's not somethin' that you wanna do on your own. Like, you don't wanna just be sittin' around gettin' wet by yourself, that's just bad business. Oh, trust me. That bad business, because if shit go bad, there's nobody to help you. Nope. Like, I got wet one time, and we was in the upstairs in the apartment, and I looked out, and my car was movin'. So, I ran out, and I grabbed the front end of my car, and I told niggas, man, go in and hit the emergency brake, and my car was movin', and they couldn't convince me for about two hours, I would have two hours, couldn't convince me my car wasn't movin', I'm outside, holdin' the front end of my Buick Park Avenue. Maybe it was Paul. My man got, God rest his soul, God rest his soul, man, I'd never forget. My man thought a nigga stole his feet. He got, smoked a dipper, fell asleep his girl, took his shoes off, nigga woke up trippin'. I'm in the front room, playin' mad, nigga get the yellin', ha, ha, ha. I'm like, man, what the fuck? I run in the back room, nigga, I'm like, man, what the fuck wrong with you, and slam, he be like, man, man, what the fuck, bro? What the fuck, lady, still my feet? I'm like, aw, this nigga trippin'. So I go outside, I tell everybody, hey man, come here, this nigga trippin', so we tryin' to get the nigga to realize this nigga, your feet, still on you. His girl, Hattu, so she in the corner cryin', lunched out, so my man put his shoes back on him, he like, oh, I'm back, I'm back, I'm back, nigga, I'm back, get the huggin' niggas and shit, I said, man, I ain't never doin' this shit. You probably got up and walked forward, then never walk forward. Yeah, nigga, I ain't got the hell on. True story, man, that shit different, man. Like, growing up in the city, man, that's all niggas was on, that's why I just was, I'm real skeptical about niggas who are on that shit, cause you'll end up having to do something to your partner off that shit, cause they lose your whole concept of reality, you know what I mean? It's addictive, it's addictive, or it's just, every drug is addictive, don't fool yourself. But every joint that you be like, nah, I'm a chill, it's literally like people that are subject for weed. Damn. That's extreme. And it seems like, it seems like a lot, it seems like a lot because weed is plentiful and weed is cheap, but motherfuckers is broken lazy. I knew a bitch who would do that. Ask the weed man, ask the weed man how much puss in here that he get. Right, I was just gonna say, a bitch want a smoke. Yeah, for a fuck's sake, just a smoke of blood. I'm like, what you at? She like, you got some weed, I'm like, here, yeah. Put it on, I'm like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Cheaper than a statement. Cheaper, that's crazy. You dig what I'm saying? But then like one of the phrases they was to get the wet, like what we used to get it from back in the day, shout out, it used to be get it from Nard back in the day and Nard to be wet. So that'd be a whole adventure. Trying to get it from a nigga that's wet. Oh my God. You got it, yeah, I thought I got it. Ain't no telling what he gonna be on when you pull up at the house. Oh, nigga, what? Oh my God. He may be on whatever. I been saying niggas do some of the wild this shit. I'm talking about, man, you think I can jump from this building to that building? No, nigga, you gonna die, nigga. I can't die. I can't die, I'm God. You like all these niggas, bunched out, man. You was jumping really hard. I didn't even jump out of a moving car. Oh yeah. I had a nigga jump from, I had a rapper jump out of the driver's seat to where I was, like telling me it was my, all right. It was your turn to drive. Yeah. So he in your seat. We wet, going down I-10. We had a freak nigga, me and Big Mike and the dude DA from the Black Monks. We on the interstate here. You go to the social media page, he told the story and he in the backseat, he don't get hot. So he in the backseat, me and Big Mike wet. So we probably around somewhere close to New Orleans or whatever. Mike was like, Bun B, it's your time to drive. I was like, pull over, I can't pull over. I'm gonna, when I count to three, I'm gonna jump over and you get over and get the wheel. I'm like, they doing about 80 interstate. I'm like, what you talking about? Mike pull over, just pull over. One, Mike don't do this shit. Mike, please don't do this shit. Two, Lord have murdered. And the nigga in the backseat is like, trip, he's really like, please don't do this shit. He scream, he had to ride with us. And that was already something I knew. God bless DA, good nigga. I've been on it for many of them with the school together. I knew that was the last car he wanted to be in. Like I said, I'm a different nigga now. You know what I'm saying? You can just tell, I'm gonna ride with them. And that nigga said three and jumped from out of there, man. And by the grace of God, and you go hear that a lot as I talk about my life. I got around that nigga and this is a big man. And I'm bigger than two. Like I'm smaller now, but shit I probably would have been at least two, 80, two, 90 back then. And Mike, at least the same. And like I don't know how I caught that wheel. It didn't swerve and flip on the highway. And who was y'all drive? What kind of car was it? It's a bourbon. That's a bourbon nigga. That's a good ass front end alignment. Yes it is. Damn. You saw the Scarface tie to this. Oh yeah. It was beautiful. This was born, the carpe was born for that. That was beautiful. Like this is the first time I think most people have actually seen Scarface in the way he's been wanting to be seen. Like him with the first of all, he's a musician. Like he was, he's a musician. So he takes, you know, playing the guitar and playing songs with the band very seriously. They practice a lot. But it's not something he get to do a lot because nightclub it really came really facilitated. And most people that want to see Scarface want to hear rap songs. And he got a very deep music history. You know what I'm saying? Knowledge can play anything, rap, R&B, rock, soul, whatever it is. But the room don't really be ronking it from him sometime. This is like him finally being able to get into a space that was going to allow him to show everything that Scarface is. You know what I'm saying? Actually being able to break down like, the way he rapped in the room gave more poignancy to lyrics that were already full of depth and weight. You know what I'm saying? You really got to be like, damn nigga, it really was saying some very, very deep shit. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, it's beautiful that the world finally gets to see him, how he's always wanted to be seen. Man. And the reward. Scarface boat forever is real gangsta's ass, niggas don't run from shit real gangsta ass, niggas don't snuff. Don't run bad, okay? Yeah, and then, you know, being from DC, man, face was always a pillar in growing up. And like, you'll see a lot of people that really treat face like he's from DC because, you know what I mean? I remember seeing face walking up and down. I used to work at a barber shop on Georgia Avenue. Face used to be walking up and down Georgia Avenue by itself back in the day. And then he would go and play live with the go-go bands. He'd just show up and just rap with backyard for hours. And the city loved his music because the way that he set the narrative, I mean, just all of the down south music, that's how I fell in love with them so much. DC feel like Houston. Yeah. Like it's very strange to go that far east and to be around the city with that close of a proximity to New York that is so un-New York. Like there's no element, maybe boots. That's about the only thing y'all have in common is the Timberland. That's about it. And it was off-putting because niggas sound like us, talk like us, act like us in love. Like between UGK Scarface and A-ball and MJG, I don't really know what mode DC would want from you. You know what I'm saying? Like they always made us feel like we was hung. And of course I was getting wet. So that was a plus, right? You get good wet. But then the whole go-go aspect to everything, meeting Big G and getting very close and actually being like in the spot. Before I played with go-go bands, I would go and watch Backyard play and just be in the room, you know what I'm saying? Like the late night shit. And then somebody proposed, it was right when Pimp came home. It was one of the first out of town show we did when Pimp came home. It was like, and I kind of had to explain it. It was like, we gonna go and we gonna do all this shit. The rap version, we gonna do a whole show. You know what I'm saying? One hour, Bumbi, Pimp, C, UGK music for an hour. And then we gonna go upstairs and we gonna do it again, but with the go-go band. And he was like in the same club to the same people. Yes, that's exactly how they wanted. And they gonna pay us, yes, you gonna get paid for downstairs and you gonna get paid for upstairs. Shit, hell yeah. And then we came in a little early and sat with the band and you know, they had already had the song memorized. Some of them had that little out tempo, you know what I'm saying? But man, that shit was real easy. Man, it took about 30 minutes for us to be like, oh no, this is it, this is nothing. Like, let's go. And then you just kind of flow with the band because it's very fluid. It's not as concrete as it would be with your normal show. Because some songs you might do a song that's normally three, 30, four minutes long and that bitch might go for seven minutes because the band is just vibing and they might get into a bass guitar solo or some shit like that. Nigga might go hard on the barn goals for a couple of minutes and it just be that. Next thing you know, we doing front, back, side, to side for 10 minutes, you know what I'm saying? And it feels great. Now DC always, man, really opened up their doors to everybody from Houston for some reason, man. I don't know nobody from that has ever been to DC that didn't feel like some kind of automatic kinship. I don't know how y'all built this beautiful Southern empire. It's very Southern, it's very Southern driven. But you can't get it. Because it's so black, so many black people. I mean, it's more black people than New York though because New York got more people in general. Right, New York's more general. And y'all like as far East damn as you can go, which is crazy. But then y'all right there with Virginia and Virginia's. Virginia's that South. What's another place that gave you like a whole lot of love that you didn't expect? Like y'all fuck with us like this out here that shocked you. Really, I won't even say the East Coast necessarily. The East Coast did give us a lot of love. But I think it was like going to Detroit. And Detroit is the same way kind of like DC. Like they got their own identity, which is evident, but they still not to be that far. East Coast ain't not New York. That shit was very off-putting to me. I thought because New Jersey's a lot like New York and Connecticut, it's so close. And Connecticut used to be very similar to New York. Connecticut got gang bangers and shit now. It's really wild. But like going to Detroit and like, now I'll say Chicago. I'll say Chicago. I had no idea it was like that for UGK and Chicago. Even it was, and this was like the old Chicago, like Cabrini, Chicago, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, buildings were still low. And like going to these cities that were very gangsta, but very specific. And they gangsterism and how you moved in the city. Like to be embraced by niggas that don't need to embrace nobody. I don't typically really fuck with niggas. Like outside town, out of town people, they get that kind of love. It always felt like different for us. You know what I'm saying? Because we didn't, we never carried ourselves. Like we'll whoop everybody or no shit like that. Or we the toughest niggas in town. We ain't half the city, we couldn't bring no pistols. So we wouldn't know if shit got really real things was going to happen. We just tried to show people respect when we went to they city. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't about, I don't know about checking in and that, but we would always find set around by the realest niggas in town. We would holler niggas, niggas come fuck with us, smoke some weed, chop it up. The fact that it was very easy to find out who was the nigga in town. Cause there wasn't no bunch of different crews and shit like that. Oh, you going up the new trial, you need to holler so-and-so in them. And then you holler so-and-so in them, niggas bring some weed, y'all talk, kick it or whatever. And then you fucking with so-and-so in them for the next 20 years. Until maybe a nigga get killed or God forbid or do some time. But niggas I met in New Orleans, niggas I still fuck with in New Orleans. Now it's only really three of us left out of a group of like eight niggas. It's only like three of us left. But that's kind of how these things happen. You tap in with real niggas that are really actually tied into the city, but because they tied into the city, shit be happening. Like shit be happening for real. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Around New Year's we get obsessed with how to change ourselves instead of just explaining what we're already doing right. Maybe you finally organize one part of your space and you want to tackle another. Or maybe you're taking your supplements every morning and now you want to actually eat breakfast too. Therapy helps you find your strengths so you can ditch the extreme resolutions and make changes that really stick. 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I'ma pull that Mary Trillman's hat back out. Yes, her skin. Yes, her skin. Corey Moe here? Oh, that's my stuff. Yeah, unfortunately. Oh, you say unfortunately? Yeah, he typically want to be where I'm at. Well, good. I mean, I hope the office still stays that she gave him. No, I just left, I brought the song, that's what I'm telling him. I went and that's what took me, that's why I got here a little late. I went straight to the studio from the plane and laid the song. So you would already have some reference for the content and subject or whatever. Bid. Oh, it's going up. Well, I'm crazy on that bitch. And then I did another song. But just because I was there, I did another song. Got you. If this your way of telling us we in UGK, I'm about to crack. No, that membership was already locked in. We ain't had no new members. Oh, shit. We ain't had no new members. When I'm gone, we subtracted the last nigga's soul. It's over with. It's always subtracted from here. Yeah, I'm with you. It just, it couldn't be, it couldn't be. It couldn't be no Moe. It couldn't be nothing new. It's it. It's just, it's just nothing to add. Right. There's nothing to add to it. Boy, as a nigga who got your music in my DNA, I just gotta say thank you, man. You're welcome. Thank you. That shit is, that's part of my blueprint. Man, who you with the nigga? You already know, nigga. I mean. This nigga here with F.C. Barnaby, man. Oh, it's evidence. Crazy. You know it, man. Crazy. It's ridiculous, man. The nigga wouldn't even diss me on the rapper at the show. Right. He said I can't do it. This is awkward. Nah, man. I'm not doing it. I'm not putting that on my resume. Hell nah, nigga. I don't be ranking on niggas at school, so I'll wait for it. Nah, you won't get that. He told me that. Yeah, I'm sitting there like, okay, this is where the niggas are going. I was just moeing all the back that this nigga knew who I was. Like, you get, I don't know if y'all, you know, understand like guys of your, your ilk or from your era, but, you know, that confirmation to get that confirmation to, to know that y'all paying attention to what we got going on. Cause like you said, when you was talking about the niggas in certain places, they don't have, you don't have to be welcome and nigga, you don't have to be friendly. Niggas absolutely know, just to be fair, some niggas are just hoes about it. That's kind of like what they feel like is part of their mystique to act like they don't know niggas know. Niggas absolutely know. All niggas, real rap niggas know every nigga that's out here rapping down there. You know what I'm saying? Niggas just, some of these niggas is funny. They just funny niggas. And then you get funny niggas money and they feel like the money and the fame co-signed their behavior. It confirms the funny niggas. You know what I'm saying? So. You ain't hit a ball. And people, people tend to, look, if everybody was a real nigga and everybody was solid, more people would be successful. You know what I'm saying? But it's more fuck niggas than it is real niggas. Yes it is. That's why there aren't more successful real people because a lot of fuck niggas held a lot of people back purposely. Like, made it their life's work to just make sure this nigga wasn't gonna be nobody. Because people, when you grow up like, when you grow up niggas, you be around niggas and you assume this nigga gonna be exactly who he is at 12, he peed in a bed. You assume he gonna grow up just be a grown nigga that peed in a bed. All this type of shit. You feel like when you go to high school, like the pickin' artist already late as who gonna be the shit, the basketball nigga, the football nigga, the cheerleader. You know what I'm saying? It's like they already decided who gonna be the shit and who ain't. And then life happens. And niggas start coming up out of nowhere, gettin' money and makin' somethin' out of theyself. That's the part I love. And they throw, but they throw their whole shit off. Because if I said I'm the shit, but he, and I said he wasn't shit and he doin' better than me, and I ain't got shit who, it fuck up the order of everything. The fine girl in the school never end up being the finest girl of her life. You know what I'm saying? And then when the tables turn and the niggas that wanted her back then that she turned her nose up, niggas wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole now. The niggas doin' somethin' for theyself, got somethin' they realized you were cute for about two and a half years. Both some of us. You know? Two some else to hold. Same thing with women dealin' with niggas. Everybody don't make it to college. You know what I'm saying? The best football player in your school might be 25th in the state if he lucky. Never get that scholarship, but she done got pregnant for the niggas. Diggin' the niggas for to do somethin'. Now you just, a niggas that used to play football, tellin' about who he was in the 12th grade all the time. That ain't no. Now how much it was in the high school, she was like, you in the street. I heard you just got to a shootout. I can't be with you. And I'm like, okay, so the niggas you got here in school. I'm like, but when I tried doin' school, you gon' fuck with me. Now a year later go by, you had a baby by this niggas. This niggas don't even wanna go to school no more. I'm in the street, but I got money. I'm like, baby, we can go to the movies and talk about the shit. You got to take care of a whole another niggas who you thought were gonna be better than me. Now look at you. You have to give yourself enough time in life to be aware of what the options play out to be. You get to nothin' in the first girl, you fuckin', you ain't give yourself no option. You just kinda stuck where you are in that position. And when I say stuck, I don't mean, your next 18 years are predetermined for you. Whatever it was that was driving you to go and be who it was you wanted to go and be in life, now you have another priority that's demanding that you step it up now. So if you had a four-year plan or a six-year plan or eight-year plan to be successful, that's cool, but you gon' have to go back some groceries to do somethin' on year one, cause there's baby here. Now, my brother wanted to go and be in the military and all of that. He got his high school girlfriend pregnant, then he called a case, couldn't go in the military. By the time he got off of paper and he four or five cheerin', now you can't go in the military. You have to give yourself time, man, to see exactly how this shit might play out. Are you from Port Arthur, that's a smaller town, right? Yeah, one of the smallest. Like, what was your experience growing up in a small town? They had an aspiration to be a big star. So for me it was different because I was born in a big town and moved to the small town. You know what I'm sayin'? I had always been going to Port Arthur all my life cause I had a lot of family there. Well, my mom and daddy got divorced cause my mama is the oldest of her brother and sisters, but my grandmother was still havin' other children and my great-grandmother was still havin' children. So, yeah, so my mama's anies are really like her cousins cause they the same age. Sounds like me. You know what I'm sayin'? They was all kinda like the same age. I gotta be. So, all her and all my mama's anies, all my grandmother's sisters were still living in Port Arthur. So that was her support system. Oh, I got a huge family. My mama's family, my mama had 13 brothers and sisters and two adoptives. Like, you know them cousins that y'all are in, I've raised. And then my daddy had, I wanna say 10, maybe 11 brothers and sisters, you know what I'm sayin'? All of them have at least four children and now we all got children and grandchildren. So I got probably between 85 and 101st cousins. God damn. No, but that's a real family though. Let's see, my mama got 10 sisters and eight brothers. My mama's side and my daddy's side. One of my cousins is, my mama's brother married by daddy cousin. So we kid twice. I'll go see him. I'll go see him. That's your cousin. You ain't regardless. No kid. Cousin. Yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? My family from Louisiana, they speak French, but they ain't teach us French. But that's how they would talk about grown shit in front of kids. They jump in and out the shit, but they ain't never teach us the shit. And everybody would tell you to learn Spanish because you lived in Texas in Louisiana. And now everybody that speak French in my family gon' die with it and none of us can carry that on. I said, see what y'all get? Like me and my cousin walk up, he's like, hey man, he's like, did they teach you French? Say teach me none of that shit. Like man, I don't think they taught none of us French. And they knew how to speak French. Oh, no, eloquently. Like my family's all like caging people. So they spoke it very well, but it'd be in front of the kid. And y'all, you know what I'm talkin' to y'all, I'm talkin' to y'all. All right, and you, you know what I'm sayin'? You know what I'm sayin'? And so, and so as you got the most you, the more you would listen, you could draw some context out of certain things. You could get bits and pieces. Just like if you be, if you, like I'm in Texas, it's a lot of Spanish that's spoken around me. I could get bits and pieces based on what the conversation is going on in the room type of shit. But, but yeah, I get, I say all that shit. I got a big ass family. But we got it. I'm about to do a family reunion, right? Because I never, not say I was concerned with my grandfather. Now I'm only speaking on my daddy's side, not even my mama's side, because that's who I've been with since I was a baby. On my daddy's side, I know my grandmother, his mama. She had two brothers and a sister. I know the sister never met the brother. Mr. Lewis had eight more kids. So I got a whole bunch of cousins that I just found out that was my cousin, but I'm just thinkin' they grew up in the neighborhood. But find out they my grandma, my brother, grandkids. These are my cousins. I'm thinkin' they just stayed in the neighborhood. Now I got my daddy, daddy, who had 12 sisters and brothers. And all them? All them in Philadelphia, Miami, Virginia, and my auntie got contact. Now, now check this out. I'm finna give you all, just how old my, my, my, my trio. My, my granddaddy, which is my daddy-daddy, his niece, which is- You blow a shit. I'm tellin' ya. Wait, I'm involved. Listen, my granddaddy, which is my daddy-daddy, his niece, which is his sister's daughter, right? 94. My cousin. You got a 94-year-old cousin? I got a 94-year-old cousin. Boy, this nigga DC. Boy, your family ain't shit. And then the motherfucker. How would you explain who you are to her? She know me. Her mind is vivid when she say my daddy name. Like when my cousin say, you know sonny? Yeah, I know sonny. That's whoot, whoot, whoot. That's Hattie's boy. Yeah, and that was your dad. And that's your dad. That was your daddy. Cause she know me. Yeah. We're making him your third cousin. Frank Ramona. Hattie is my brother's wife. Nope. Hattie is my uncle's wife. That's what it is. That'd be the best shit, though. The calculator broke, by the way. When it come to computing, how many niggas you kid to? The calculator is broken at this point. But she did the thing that a lot of people, but did the thing with black families, we only stop at our grandparents. Your grandparents have siblings. That's also your cousins. Like when I have grandchildren, I don't want them to be like, all right, granddaddy. I'm like, no, you got a crazy auntie, which is my sister, which is your great aunt. She got kids, which are my nephews, which are your cousins. Your family trees don't just stop with me. It goes on and on. And let me tell you how old your folks really are. Your great uncle. 130. 130? Right. This niggas, kid, the botanicals. The botanicals. The botanicals. Well, about a hundred and nine. You see got a little geniologist. I want one. It's a cat that he's been doing genealogy. And my wife found him and she brought him over to us. And he went through my tree. And he got literally the dude that came from like Italy or France somewhere and came and fucked and made all of us. Like all of us. And I'm kidding, so many people. They were the French part coming in. Exactly. I'm kidding, there's so many people that are like from this one person. He went through everybody like, oh, your grandmother from here, your grandmother. Okay, so actually your great-grandmother and his great-grandmother and that dude's great-grandmother are cousins. Because they all have the same aunt. And then this dude is from the uncle. So you can, to him too, but all y'all can, they sent me the picture and everything. He brought me like. You gotta know how the family tree is brought about. You can be a kid, but then you can't be a kid. If you know where to stop it. Cause y'all can have a correlated sibling. You did what I'm saying? Like my uncle wife, once my uncle wife had kids, right? And they had kids. Cool. That's how we related to my uncle wife because of my uncle and them and his children. Now my uncle wife's brother had babies with my cousin. But that didn't stop my uncle wife from going to mess with my cousin because he's like, we family? No, the family tree. You feel Uncle Bobby walk back? Yeah, that's it. How we not not Bobby? He's watching bro up. This nigga, this nigga. Yeah, man, this boy boy. I'm telling you. He's gonna let me think about this shit later. For real. DC cousin was very, it's great to be like them numbers in the matrix. Man to be like the best little boy in math class. Didn't remember all this shit. Oh yeah, I'm a good math nigga. One thing about it. And I know how, how it worked. Cause I just sat with my cousin yesterday and we was just going through family trees and all that. And I'm just watching my grand, like looking at my granddad, we had trimmed that family tree so much. This is just a bush. I was smoking way yesterday, much less. But so I'm just intrigued. I'm intrigued on about why I know, trying to figure out where we come from. Which one, the baby one, or the oldest one? The oldest one? He got to it all out of the day. He said. He got to be. I think he used to babysit my grandfather some shit like that. I think my older brother is 69. That's hard. Got a grand brother. That's hard. What y'all do together? Argue. That's why I got an old soul. Yeah, you ain't winning no argument with a nigga that got a 69 year old brother. He gonna say some shit to you. You ain't heard. You been cussed that real different. Yeah. You been cussed that way and he's soul. You been cussed real different. They try to sit you down. I ain't no argue. Oh, okay. Don't know about it. That's why you couldn't really get in third grade. You just taught him, motherfucker. Don't nobody call, don't nobody cuss your ass out like an old nigga. Oh, hell no. When an old nigga say cuss word in the middle of the money cussing you out, you old motherfucker, you. They didn't know you when you was a baby, that you was his baby brother. Did you meet him later in life? He was one of them, he was one of them baby brothers where he like, I don't think that child belonged to daddy. Oh, well that was predetermined. Oh my God. Was he the baby before you? No, he was the oldest. Oh, that's that, that's that different. Hey, he ain't like none of y'all. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you nigga. I ain't been like since I got him. You six and you got a newborn baby brother. You like, nigga, what the fuck? You should be happy that daddy's getting some pussy. You should be more concerned about your grandkids than your daddy kids at that point. That's great. That's crazy, man. I ain't been 50, I got a grand kid at that point. But he was younger than him, he's 69 now, I'm 31. So he was in his thirties there. In his feelings. In his feelings. About some cheering. About a month old baby that can't even hold his neck up. Trauma, man. You ain't on a nigga that can't even see you. Who taught my man? Is he bald now? Ooh. Yo bro, all y'all got hair. Yeah, he bald. Yeah, that's why he mad. He bald. He saw it, he saw it as a baby. He saw it, this nigga gon' have hair. Nah, I fought with him though, he a good nigga though. You know, he's just an old nigga. Not an old nigga to be mad by anything. That's me, I'm an old nigga. You're an old nigga now. You can say to yourself, at this point you can say to yourself to be old. Yeah, yeah, I'm an old nigga. I'mma survive a nigga. Yeah, that's the only thing you can say about an old nigga, he survived. Yeah. I take pride in these years now. I know what it took to get here, you know? It's a lot of niggas I moved with, man, in this world that didn't make it this far. Obviously my right hand didn't make it this far. And so I take pride in the fact that I lived this long. And I'm still like actually pretty good at what I do. I still think I'm good at what I do. Still actually appreciated for doing it. Got other shit going on, you know what I'm saying? Shows, I'm getting paid more now than I've ever been paid before to rap because I don't have to. So they gotta pay me extra to get me to even lead a crib without the other shit going on. So it just, you know, the blessings are really coming in, man. I put a lot of hard work in. I say quiet. I didn't say too much about a lot of shit that happened. That shit don't really benefit me or whatever, or whatever happened, happened. I'm here now and this is where we end. So I put a lot of bullshit to the side to just open myself up to be blessed. And it came in the rain and the cold. Man, speaking of your right hand, man, I hear a lot of people speculate about this, but I don't think nobody would have the type of insight that you would have to answer this question. Figuratively speaking, if the pimp was still here, how do you think he would fit in today's society and narrative and whether it be musical, just in general? It would be Boocell Steroids. It would be Boocell Steroids. Social media, it would be Boocell Steroids, content and everything like that. You know, pimp understood who he was and how he was seen in this world. And you can listen to some of the last songs he was talking about, you know, Pimpin' Ain't Dead, it just moved to the west. You know what I'm saying? He was getting it well where she was going. And pimp would have been, I know this gonna sound crazy. I think it was Snoop that just said, only fans offered him a bunch of money to get on there and show his dick or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Why? What the fuck? I could, if he wasn't married, when she was married, he had a good wife. She was very, very loyal to him. He had a good wife, but. In this only fans era, Pimp's he would have been making some money somewhere, some kind of way. Like somewhere between Boocell and Sauce Walker, you would have like, well actually not even in between, but like on the outer parameters, cause he operated on the furthest. Like we gonna go there, we going all the way there. Fuck it. Cause it would have been money involved. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying he would have showed his dick, but I think some hoes would have been short something. Like it would have been some money there. You know what I'm saying? For him, he would have found a way to take advantage of it. But then also, social media can be your downfall too, because everybody ain't gonna always agree with everything that you say. But I think the music would have been amazing to see him have an opportunity to produce for a lot of people. I think him and Drake would have had a phenomenal relationship to likes and niggas that can rap and sing. I think the synergy is just, it would have just been really, really ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? And also niggas like Future, that was just young and wild and getting to the paper and moving a certain way. I think people like that would have gained a lot from being up under a person like Pimp. Cause the guy that, one of the first people to find Future was one of my right-hand people back in the day. So the proximity that he would have had to a lot of talent today would have really altered the direction of thing. But then I would think it was a lot of shit that he wouldn't have been cool with too. But man, think about Megan Thee Stallion produced by Pimp C. Think about Sexy Red and Pimp C on a record. These are natural things that obviously would have happened that I looked at. But also like on the R&B side, he was very much a singer. And I think today's R&B lends itself a lot to what he was doing. You know what I'm saying? I think it would have been a very sweet spot for him to just really be like, hey man, I just want to fuck. But in a sensual way, like I really want to fuck you though. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to just fuck with you. Like I'm really trying to get you and fuck put some dick on you. Like for real, I want to put some dick in you. Like for real, you know what I'm saying? Yo, what going on? It's your boy DC on Fly, man. One thing about me and what I love to do but my favorite app, prize picks of all times, you dig what I'm saying? 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And what would you, what kind of like attributes or characteristics you could say that you saw in Pimp when you was like oh yeah. This my right hand man. Law to a fault. Like law to a fault. Now is the thing about us that superseded everything. Cause when we started there was a lot of people around we was all trying to make music. We all wanted to be in a game and then life started pulling people in different directions. And me and him kind of looked up and was like man we still really want to do this shit. And we realized that nobody really wanted to do it as much as we did. And so as we went through shit and got the deals and got fucked over and got a new manager and got fucked over and all these different things. The one constant was that we got each other. So there's times where I get frustrated and I don't want to do this shit no more. We ain't making no bread. Fuck this we can be doing different shit and get some money. People keep, Pimp will keep me focused. Keep me on my note. And then be time with Pimp would get frustrated. Try to dealing with these white folks in these labels man. They don't understand us. They won't let us do what we supposed to do. I keep him focused. I keep him centered. You know what I'm saying? And that's really what it was about because like Pimp had friends, right? Pimp had his own circle of niggas cause he moved a different way to not move. So I had my own circle of niggas but none of our friends from our circle were closer to us than we were to each other. Because as much as they was around us they still hadn't really been through the shit that me and him had actually been through real, like rap street wars with niggas looking for you with guns like real shit. You know niggas come to concerts. They weren't a part of that. You know what I'm saying? Getting sued. You know IRS coming in, freezing bank accounts. Y'all weren't a part of that part. That was the only person we could call about that was us. Now I'm not saying they weren't a part of helping us do this company. Right. But it's just that there were just times where y'all could go home and kind of separate from it and we had to kind of live it every single day. So me and him always had that between us. And then it was the music, the chemistry was just, it's bananas and it's really, I can say it and it sound like cap, but if you ask anybody that was ever in the studio with us or around in the time that we made those music, those songs, those albums, we would be in the same room writing to the same song and would not have to, I would not have to tell him where I'm at unless it was something that was structured for him to go right after me or something. So he'd have to know my last name. But if we say we want to talk about cars, we can write a whole song about cars. I ain't got to ask him what he's saying because he don't like the same kind of cars. I like, he ain't gonna do in the car what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? So we ain't like the same type of women. Let's do a song about girls, okay? I'm gonna do this type of girl. He want to do that with several women. Whatever it was, you know what I'm saying? But the only thing we really had in common was getting to where the fuck we was trying to go. Sometimes he have an idea, I'd have an idea. Some days we take his route. Some days people needed to deal with Pepsi, right? Some day people needed to deal with Bombay. It was those characteristics that we knew would work better in certain rooms and certain spaces. But whatever it took. So when Pimp was snapping, people would hear Pimp talk crazy about him. Most of the times I knew, sometimes I wake up and hear the shit just like y'all, you know what I'm saying? And I would just have to feel like, you know, I know he feel like this. I know he really, really feel like this, you know? If I don't agree with it, that's between me and him. Right. That's not. Between the world. That's not the world business, you know what I'm saying? Whether or not we agree on different things. We gonna talk past it anyway. That'd be the thing I hate to see. I hate to see when niggas build something together and they get into it and they make shit public. Like I'll never fuck with this nigga again and then five years, 17 years down the line. You know damn well you gonna end up fucking with this nigga again. There's gonna be a different appreciation of what y'all did. Y'all gonna understand and appreciate the dynamic of the relationship better as y'all get older. Realize y'all left a lot of good years and a lot of money on the tape. So my thing is, man, let's just deal with it. There will be shit. We be in concert, Pimp say some outlandish shit nigga. I'm tellin' about like some wild shit. And I just have, you know, I'm playin' it calm, whatever, you know. Keep doin' a show, keep doin' the music in the room. What the fuck was that, my nigga? What was that? Anybody was shit, you know who we want. I be like man god damn, just give me a heads up cuz it don't matter. Either way, I'm ridin' with him regardless. Even if I don't agree with it, if that's what we on, that's kinda where we at with it. There's no just. You know I might disagree. But goin' back to Slim Charles, man. Big G, what you saying on the why? Even if it's a lie, we got a ride on that lie. That's just what it is at that point. I'm not fitting to publicly take no other nigger's side. I'm not publicly fit to disagree with the man. I'm telling me wrong when it's just being him. It's the place of the time for everything. But if that's what we at, if you say some shit, whether I agree with it or not, if it's out there, well, we already know what that is. Well, he said, nigga. Well. Yeah. So I said, we get off the stage where y'all niggas know what it is. Nah, he didn't say it. It's out there. I don't know what he's saying. Move accordingly. Let's do it. Just move accordingly. That's it. He had the, I mean, when you go back and you listen to the way he spoke about you, like it ain't nobody he believed in more than the bun. Like he was, I mean, I got 250,000 if you think he can do it. When nobody believed in either one of them, we believed in each other. Right. And he got us a long way. Yeah. You could tell. They got us a long way. It was not easy. It was fucked up. A lot of people feel it's dirty. And it was just me and him. Mama. You know what I said? You know, Mama came in, you know, put her life on the line for a child. I got the residual benefit of that. So I never, I never could give her enough credit and love for what she did for us. And we, he lived long enough to see the world actually standing to appreciate what it was he was trying to do. Because UGK wasn't Mama. UGK was his fate. He woke up with sleep. You know what I'm saying? He really, really wanted to show the world who he was and what we could do, where we was from. And before he left, we ended up having the number one album in the world. Release. Not a rap, R&B, none of that shit. Billboard 200, number one. Finally got to present itself in a way that he knew if they just get the fuck out the way. Like, we literally, for riding dirty, we didn't take no money. I didn't do no videos. Y'all didn't even do that. But not even that. We didn't take no money. We didn't take no money for riding dirty. We said, give us some equipment and give us creative control. I don't want to pit it. And that's why you got riding dirty. Because the first two albums before, like with Too Hard to Swallow, the first album, their songs, they got remixed by the record company that I didn't hear till they sent me the album. Like when the sample wouldn't clear in my contract, they had to write at the label to reproduce the record. So like, what is it? 1,900, 976 BUNB? I'd never heard that from that album. Till that shit came to my house about three, four days, four days after I come out. I'd never heard that shit in my life. You know what I'm saying? So just that type of shit, you know, having a jail or death clause in my contract. So when Pym got locked up, it was like, what, when y'all go to jail or when y'all die, you can bring in another member. But it had to reduce the royalty rate. So we just wanted to know if you wanted to exercise that clause. And, you know, they were like, he's gone. So if you want to do UGK with somebody else, we can, we can do that. It'd be very easy, it's already in the contract. You know, what do you mean? You mean it was, how can you do UGK without PMC? That's the heart of UGK. Like, I'm gonna do a solo album. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about all that. You know what I'm saying? Well, can I go do it somewhere else? I was like, what are you gonna do it? Rap a lot? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because he would know what to do, you know what I'm saying? That's fucking crazy. So like the old man just said at the panel, which I didn't know, he's like, I had to sue them. Like it became a whole legal thing, right? Because contractually, they really did, there was nothing in my clause that said that I had to give them a solo album. So that became a whole thing. And they ended up settling for a couple of points, you know what I'm saying, on the album. And I ended up selling what, 750? You know what I'm saying? How different was that for you though, when you had to do that? Terrible. And as though you recorded with, you know, your whole recording career has been with this person. Terrible, but necessary, terrible, horrible. I would typically come in, Pimp would have some beats, we'll pick some different beats. Either he'd come up with a hook, I'll come up with a hook. All right, what we gonna do? Two versions, one you, one me, then we gonna split a 16. Okay, you gonna go first, I'm gonna go first. So I, you know, do my right navigation, write my little rhymes, go in and say my rhymes, I leave. But the nigga had already been in the studio a couple of hours before I got there. And was gonna still be in that hole a couple of hours after I left, every time. That was my job now. I'd never done it before, never wanted to do it before. I never wanted to be a solo artist because I felt I was in the best group of all time. I always felt like nobody was better than me. You could not put two niggas in the room and come up with what me and him did. Not as good as we did it. So I had to start, the first thing I had to do was find beats. I ain't never had to look for a beat in my goddamn life. I was rapping with PMC. Who beats what I want? So I had to go out and do that shit. You know what I'm saying? I had to go out and find beats. So I started calling my partners, I called KLC. KLC was the first nigga I called. I told him what I wanted to do. I left him a voicemail. I said, I want to do some, and the nigga called me the next day and had made the fucking song. I was rapping and humming in the goddamn phone. I said, I think I'm gonna be all right. If I can tell these niggas what I want to do, you know what I'm saying? Or what I'm trying to do, they can give me what I want. You know what I'm saying? So we just started calling partners, friends. You know what I'm saying? Next thing you know, we had an album. We felt comfortable with it. We put it out. Motherfucker got received well and I was like, okay, we cooking now. And this whole Free Pimp C shit was getting momentum and energy, which I just watched what Eminem and G, you know, was doing with free, yo. There wasn't no, you know, praise for me. They had a partner locked up. They was doing a lot of big shit. Then they had, they big, the other partners doing big shit, wearing the shirt, saying the name. I said, we could do this. I know a bunch of niggas are aware of Free Pimp C shirt and say Free Pimp C. And I just carried the message from artist to artist album to album. That became a whole thing because I didn't want the man to come home after that shit and have to be in a position of trying to rebuild this shit. So the whole time I'm getting energy and momentum, I'm letting niggas know it's still a UGK for life. There were people that literally tried to convince me, if you want to leave, you could go. Cause Pimp was not in the best place when he got locked up. There was a lot of behavior that I didn't agree with at the time. And so people literally was trying to talk. And I was like, well, no, nothing to do that now. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Around new years, we get obsessed with how to change ourselves instead of just explaining on what we're already doing right. All right? Maybe you finally organized one part of your space and you want to tackle another. 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Corey Moe was around for the majority of the shit that I'm talking about. When he became age-appropriate, Corey Moe's big brother, Mike Moe, was pimping right hand for a while and helping him with recording and moving into a lot of different things. And then as Corey got older, Corey come around, you know, I make beats. Y'all make beats. Good for you, Corey. Good for you, little man. Keep it up. And now niggas call Corey OG. But, you know, not Doug, it's a niggas a couple niggas, you know. I'm one of them. Not everybody, but it is. But Corey can testify to a lot of shit that I'm talking about, the good and the bad. And in spite of all of that, we kept this shit together. Because that was all that really mattered to me was keeping this shit together. I saw so many groups break up. I saw so much pitted shit break shit up. I saw real shit break shit up. I saw niggas start to grow in different directions. I never wanted that for us. I knew me and Pip wasn't the same nigga when we started. We weren't the same niggas in high school. We weren't the same niggas that's grown men. That was not a problem for me. That didn't mean not to fuck with this man. I knew he did shit different than I did shit that did not mean don't fuck with the man. Because when you start judging people, that's something wrong with you. You know what I'm saying? Like I say, as long as people show up to work, as long as people don't bring their bullshit to work, as long as people treat their family fine, I really don't see what the problem is. You know what I'm saying? Only until it affects the family or the job when you start new, you gotta start checking yourself. But look, man, we loved each other. We didn't have to like each other all the time, and that's a big misconception. You know, me and Pimp didn't even live in the same city for at least a dozen years. You know, I was in Atlanta first, he was at home, then I came back, then he moved to Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? But there will be times where we probably wouldn't see each other for two months, two or three months in person. We talk on the phone or whatever, but get there, what's up bro? Shit, boop, boop, all right, Pee Wee, let's get it. And get on stage and rap. You think me and the thing have been around each other all week? There was no need to force the friendship, bro. We were that already. You know, so outside of whatever people thought or people felt or people read or whatever this shit was, I love Chad, Chad loved me. And at the end of the day, that's all that really mattered. And the last thing we said to each other was, I love you, I love you too. That's the last thing he said to me. That's the last thing I said to him. So I have closure in a situation. That being said, of course, I miss him. I mean, try not to cry this whole time because it's so overwhelming how impactful his life was. I see rap niggas all the time. I see that nigga. I look at jewelry, I see that nigga. I look at clothes, cars. He left so much for these niggas. Niggas a millionaires, they bosses. Cause he left with blueprint for niggas. I'm better cause there was a blueprint. Showed me how to do this shit, put this shit together when he went around. And he would have wanted these niggas to win. He wanted niggas to not be, not talk shit on each other, get to the paper, get your motherfucking money. These niggas getting so much money nowadays. It's ridiculous. I know that nigga love this shit. No, we do. You looking at somebody that is, I mean, I can't even explain how heavily influential y'all are on me, but like I always say, I grew up without a father. My father got killed. I grew up with, you know, losing many men in my family to violence and drugs. And I ain't never had to look at nobody outside of my family and want to be like nobody. Pimp C is the only person I ever looked at. There was an entertainer that I wanted to be like. I wanted to be like this man. Like it was raised right, you know what I mean? The way that, the way that, the way, not just the music, just hearing him talk and hearing how passionate he was and how authentically him he was. Like that shit, that's where I get that from. Me walking around with half my braids missing and all that shit comes from the confidence that I have within myself. And I watched this man throughout my life. Like I cried like a bitch when that man died on December for like, I remember being in a computer lab. I was in school and my daughter mama called me and told me Pimp C died. I was like, man, and we was beefing at the time. I was like, why would you call me and say some goof ass shit like that fucking with me? And I had, this was men in computer lab. I looked it up and seen that it was real and I just started crying because I felt like I lost somebody I knew that I felt like I knew this man through. No, but you did. You did because he never had to really alter his true personality. The shit he said, he meant. And he said it on the radio interview, which is the most Pimp C shit of all the shit he ever said. Oh, that's the classic. Is when the niggas- When I don't complain, what time is it? It's not even that, it's when the niggas said, the niggas said, if I offended you with what I said, then I'm sorry. But I meant what I said. But I meant what I said. That was his motto, that's how he walked through life and he was gonna be him and move like how he moved and you either was gonna like it and rock with him or you wasn't gonna like it. And like you said, it's a fight under that. You know, look, he wasn't the easiest person to like, but he was hard not to love. It's hard not to love a nigga like that. The nigga was passion in the flesh. The nigga wanted to be great. He wanted niggas around him to be great. He want niggas that thought like him to be great. That came from where he came from to be great. He was so selfless. Niggas, they'd appreciate it. They thought it was just rap and music as it was. But he wanted the best for niggas, especially in the South. We spent a lot of time not being appreciated. And he and Walt did next niggas to go through it. So he, that's why he started saying, cut your rap tunes and all that shit because he wanted niggas to have pride from where they was from. And if they didn't feel accepted, it didn't mean they weren't supposed to be there. That's what that shit was really about. And now niggas walk through this game and get big money and hole a nuts and they ain't got to say they from the South or that they made it in spite of being from the South. Them niggas just the South not getting to the paper. And it's not just rap niggas. This show is a byproduct of Pimp C, of niggas feeling like they could be who they wanna be and get to what they trying to get to. And take their niggas with them and do it in a real way. This is a byproduct of all that shit. I look at niggas like y'all and I know that the hard work and the sacrifice wasn't in vain. That niggas actually watched what that man was saying and listened and got some game and some of these niggas took that shit and built on that shit and became not just artists, they became bosses and businessmen and factors out here. You know what I'm saying? And it's amazing to watch because these niggas and nice women, you look at Lotto and Megan, Glow Realiz, he's a Pimp C, man, that's Pimp C. But all that shit that confidence, you know what I'm saying? Or being out and I'm gonna show my ass, don't give a nigga but not touch me. You know what I'm saying? Now, Pimp, I'm coming out and I'm a shadowy niggas but I've been not touching my chain, though. You know, bitch been not touching my dick. That's their confidence. I know I'm the shit. Y'all, I'm just waiting for y'all niggas to catch up. You know what I'm saying? I'm just waiting for y'all to catch up. That's what I see as I look through this game. I see a lot of people that not only listen to Pimp C, but they listened to Pimp C. And if you talk to his contemporaries, you talk to niggas like Chip and all of them, they'll tell you man, like man, Pimp was serious. He was serious about the South. He was dead serious and that's why niggas, like the TIs and the killer mics that these new generation, that's why they so serious about how they business is handled, how they videos is shot, how they clothes is tailored. All that time niggas take pride because they South niggas. And they know it took a lot for South niggas to even get into rooms. We finna come through clean. We're not finna show up, you know what I'm saying? Look at, what up? Niggas wearing a suit, I'm gonna have to clean a suit. You know what I'm saying? Like niggas wearing a shirt, watch me. Watch this, I'm gonna show you how South niggas do it. I take so much pride in watching the show. I just went to Paris with Slim. Law IT. If Slim Doug ain't learned from PMC, I don't know who he learned from. And he a yellow nigga too South niggas. And he a yellow nigga too, that's the other. He putting on. And they're putting on for the city, man. So a lot of niggas putting on, man, I'm proud of these niggas, I really am. They doing them credit, they doing them justice by getting out here and getting to this paper, man, it's so much money. And he niggas getting it. I love it. I used to have to sell one record out of a store. These niggas make one song and sell it 13 different God damn ways. Nigga only have to make an album. Nigga make one good record, he out here. Look at me there. Me and that came right at the beginning of the digital era. Max that hoe out, ring tones, online sales, website, all of that shit. And then that man woke up one day and said, man, you know, eventually this rap shit gonna play out of our record. Ain't big like the last record. This show ain't, show money ain't gonna be like that. I need this show money forever. Like I need this kind of bread that I'm getting now forever and start moving on it before the shit started going down. And he walked away from the game. Nigga the Barry sound is a rap. The nigga can still rap. Can still make music do all that shit, but it ain't really necessary. I did what I came to do. I said what I said. Now I see some old paper over there on my holla chop. Look how hard it is to get around Model Ross now. Think that nigga over there worried about rapping. That's probably the smallest chick he get. Well, obviously not cause he got the label deal and all that. He got his cinemas or whatever, but what he's things he trying to do, man. And the effort that it takes to make the money that he's making from all these other different businesses and everything that it takes to kind of go into the music. Now he's where Jay is. When I make an album, it's to perpetuate my other businesses. When Hole make an album, it is not about the money an album make. He'll make more money from the sponsorships than the album could make. No matter how many it sell. We know Rob. From the tour partnerships that they'll produce from that type of shit. Rob's getting some money. He got up left talking to us to go get something in the middle of the conversation. Nigga, I get into places as a rapper. I could never, I ain't never been invited to Coachella. There's no rapper. They never ask me to come to Coachella and say a motherfucking word. They want them burgers again. Can you come back and can you do this festival too? Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like you gotta be open to change, man. You can't be trying to hold on to this shit for too long. You gotta be calling and telling you, man, come over here, come over here. Now I'm good, right here. I ain't, I ain't, I ain't gonna be here. When you get back. When you get back. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? They ain't gonna be here. 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