 My brother and his fiance just got engaged. Oh, really? Well, I guess it would be his boyfriend, but now it is his fiance. Yeah. It's fiance. Tell him I said congrats. Yeah. So wow. Yeah. Yay! Yay! Hey, look back to our stupid wreck so you can eat some Corbin. Love is in the air everywhere you look around. I'm wrecked. And I have a mint in my mouth. I should probably take that out so it doesn't sound like I'm going to say something really dirty. OK, so today we, 83 just came out. A little known movie. We're doing a movie review. Sorry, I didn't say that. A little unknown film that just came out today called 83, directed by Kabir Khan and starring just a little unknown future Dost of ours, named Ranveer Song. Is that how you pronounce that song? Yeah, I believe that's correct. That's a technical term. And Deepika Parcon, a whole bunch of people, our actual Dost, Pankaj Tripati, and a whole bunch of other people. Big ensemble piece, really, of this film. But obviously it's about the overall story of a spoiler alert. India won the World Cup in 1983. Gateson, nobody knew. It's a biography drama film. So even though, I mean, everybody, I guess, knows the ending of this film, but we're going to try to do mostly non-spoiler reviews just because it's a new film. Also, in case you're wondering, why are you on Skype? I'm in Florida right now on the other side of the country from Rick because it's Christmas time, and so I'm with family right now. And so that is why we watched it separately this time in case you are wondering. But yeah, so we're going to try to do mostly non-spoiler reviews. Maybe we'll get to some spoilers at the end just because a new film that's going to be very, very popular coming out. So Rick, your initial non-spoiler thoughts, please. Initial non-spoiler thoughts, I want to accentuate the things I liked about it, but I was tremendously disappointed. Yeah, I guess I can synopsis it is that, and then I can tell you the things that I was OK with, but the majority of it was really disappointing for me. Yeah, maybe I was expecting a little something different as well. It's clear they were going for a mass film in terms of like a big audience feel as opposed to like, I don't know, remember the Titans or even Bog Muka Bog if you go in India in terms of just the style of sports movie that they were going for. There was definitely a one. I wish it had been Bog Muka Bog. Yeah, it was more of a appeal to the masses for sure of like, this is just, I think I saw somebody describe it as this is more of a, what word did they use? Love letter really to, as opposed to like a film, like it was just like, this is kind of the bullet points of what happened and here's some stuff that I'll make you feel. And I would, OK, going in, I will say I was a little disappointed for sure, just like you were not as disappointed as I was with Pushpa for sure. It's not that level disappointed for me because I think there were some stuff that was good in it. But yeah, overall, I was hoping for something a little different, I think you were as well. And on a lot of levels in what the vibe that was going for, because it was it was really I don't know the word to describe it, it was it was really just I have a mass appeal, I guess it was just because it was just surface level for the most part, right? Yeah, the word for me, I mean, it had one gear and one pedal and it slammed it to the floor and that was melodrama. It was, yeah, a lot of melodrama. And I think only at a few points did that melodrama work for me in terms of like, I think the end point. I think that melodrama would have been fine for me if they would have ended on, you know, that big high melodrama. You know, I get it, you know, India feeling though we won the World Cup pride in our country. I like that point of it. I thought that was good. But yeah, there was a bunch of points to where I agree. It was just a little too much melodrama for for for my liking. And maybe this just was a film that they were like, we're gearing to some mass Indian audiences and that's what we're going to do. But yeah, that's you guys asked us for our review of it. And that's that's not typical. Never be dishonest. That's our typical response to if you give a lot of melodrama. I totally agree. But there were there were stuff that I did enjoy in it. I did I just I think the probably the biggest and maybe you can tell me if you agree, the the thing that we're probably I think it was the filmmaking aspect of the overall I because I think you could have taken the pieces of this with a I don't want to say better filmmaker, but maybe a different filmmaker, maybe of like a Zoya or a Farhan even, right? You know, he with what he did can do. Obviously, you know, how we feel about on your own. But like, it just I feel that you could have taken all the stuff that they filmed and given it to a different filmmaker. And I think it I think it could have been a better film. I agree. My. Um, like, I felt like everybody in the cast did the best they could with what they had. Um, I felt like. I honestly, I'd be interested to know. I don't think they talk about it publicly, but I'd love to know what they know about this privately. I can't imagine that they're as artists fulfilled with the outcome. Um, I I I just. I felt like the cast did the best they could with what they had to do and that there's no way one of the barometers that we don't have to measure by is we don't know the people that they were portraying to see if they were replicating them the right way. Like if we watch if we watch somebody playing and you name a number of characters from biopics that we can go, OK, the most recent being what Gary Oldman did in the darkest hour, we can measure that. We've seen that person. We know how that person spoke and behaved. We don't know if they if the actors know that. In fact, I had I was watching it with Andrani and I said, this is is run beer. How is he doing with the Punjabi to make it sound like? And she said he's doing a very good job with making it sound like a couple dev and as far as that's concerned. But some of the things that just. On the directing side of things on the filmmaking side of things, aside from the melodrama where things like bad wigs on virtually everybody. The the use of that kid. I just I couldn't I called it. I said to Andrani, I said, I know this movie's going to end. The movie's going to end with the kid and a guy shoulders waving the Indian flag. And that that throwing the bone to the lowest common denominator just to get kind of an appeal with the melodramatic manipulations is I just I can't stomach it. It's really, really hard for me. That's my biggest disappointment with with the film is that aspect of it. And I the cricket segments, as far as the believability of the sport, it looked believable again. We don't know what to compare it to other than the highlights and stuff. Yeah, I thought I thought they did. I thought in terms of the cricket playing, I thought that was good. It was just it was it looked like they were actually it looked good. They were doing it to me. They totally knew that, like I said, I think the biggest issue with this is that this Kabir Khan. This is just the style he decided he wanted to go with for for his film was a very melodramatic, I guess. Patriotic would be another word, right? That it comes a lot in Indian films. And it's just that I maybe I just I wanted something different. And that might be that might be my fault. Because I've actually I know a bunch of people that I've talked to already that love this film. So it's very possible that it just this appeals to the Indian audience. And it's just to us who aren't avid cricket fans who are don't know this story back and forth who aren't in. We're not Indian, obviously. And so it's maybe this just didn't appeal to us as much. And I don't want to make this sound like that. I think you're being generous. Yeah, but I also don't want to seem like I hate it. I did not hate this film. I didn't like it like the way I really didn't like push by and was super, super disappointed. And I was not saying I wasn't disappointed in this either. I was disappointed in this. But because there were moments that I thought, what are you doing? My father is right behind me, sticking his head out. But there were there were moments in this that I did really, really enjoy. I'm going to punch you so hard in the face. But yeah, the like Ranveer, I thought did a good job. And I feel like I didn't see Ranveer almost at all. I wish he had a better script to do all of that hard work that I feel like he did with and because I feel like I didn't see Ranveer very much at all as Ranveer the person that we now know. Right. I wish he had like on your own dialogue, just how naturally it could have been, right? And stuff that was much less melodramatic. Another aspect that I really enjoyed was maybe it just goes on saying I enjoyed Pankaj. I don't think I think the guy is I think he can do anything with if you give him a pile of dog shit, I think he could do something with it. Yeah, and I think that's a good that's a good analogy. I think he could literally do anything with anything. I think he is that good. And he and he had moments that I was like, that's Pankaj. I love Pankaj. I think and I'm sure I don't know that obviously the person he was portraying. Once again, I think he probably did a good job at portraying who that was. It's just the biggest downgrade to this film is filmmaking for me. It's the filmmaking and it doesn't bode well for future Salman Khan films. We see because this director has is known for two very popular Salman Khan films. And if there if this is any kind of a signal, isn't the kind of movie making he makes? Well, we've seen his the Pakistani girl. That's that's his film. Are you sure about that? Are you sure about that? Yeah. Baji Baji. What is it called? Baji Bajaraj Bajan, the one with the Pakistani girl on the walls. That's his film. That's him. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because it was it. I was. Yeah, it's the it was the it was the the script and the filmmaking and the use of melodrama to the point where I got it. It was very bothered by it. And I came I I left the theater the way I walked in. I don't know much more about any of those players other than they liked basic, you know, grade school humor. One of them, his fiance called off his wedding. But I don't feel like I got to know why they love cricket, why they play for cricket other than everything they do is to to bleed for India. It just it didn't feel like a human biopic. It just felt like a highlight reel to kind of give you for a lot of people who didn't get to see it. And even those, especially who no one got to see it, like the record breaking game for a couple of dev no one except who was present at the game got to see it. So now you've got to see a reenactment of it. But other than that, it just it was really for me because I had such high expectations for this to be good. It was it was equally disappointing, you know, and we root for around here. But it's like it's like any great. I really feel like for this, the way I do about anybody who is a great athlete, and you go to watch them play and you're just like you bought tickets to the game and you're going to watch them play and they go 0 for 4 at the plate and they get the, you know, the crap beat out of them. They just didn't have a good game. Everybody in this, I just feel like they didn't have a good game and the primary culprit, the culprit I believe is the filmmaking. You know, I don't know that I agree with the acting aspect of that. I don't know if they had a bad game. I think a lot of actually the actors I thought did well. It's just the some of the dialogue writing was very. I don't even know the word for it. Surface level, I guess comes to mind. Amateur almost sometimes in terms of some of the dialogue, I guess would come to mind as well. Maybe, maybe that's how they, maybe that's how they talked. But we haven't said this, we haven't, we haven't said this, but we got to say it. When the hell are you going to hire actors who can act that have Caucasian complexions? Good freaking grief, man. It's just obviously whatever, whatever, whatever Sardar Udan did to help the white actors. This brought it right back down. They were pretty bad in this one. It's just mind boggling that it's acceptable. It's just mind boggling to me. Yeah, I think honestly, I think you could give this film to literally how it's shot right now to a different filmmaker on the editing floor. And I think they could probably make a better film. I think I need to change the script. I even think that, yeah, even though I agree, I even think you don't need to do that much to make it a better film. I think if you take out a bunch of the melodrama and also you could probably have taken out at least 25 minutes of this film. 25 minutes of crowd reaction and like I didn't need to see. I knew it was going to happen. The minute the soldiers showed up at the old man's door, sorry, we're getting into spoilers now everybody. So we're talking a little bit about actual scenes and the thing. So if you don't want to be spoiled, go see it and come back because I'm going to talk about a scene in the film right now. When those soldiers knocked on the door and that older gentleman answered the door, I turned to Andrade and I said, I guarantee they're going to sit with them and watch the game. Yeah, it definitely took 100% of all these sports stereo tropes and just... Yeah, tropes. That's a great word. And just kind of added on to it. Maybe we just had too high of expectations for the film. But I mean, I guess it's Ranveer and it's a film that we had been looking for since I think before the pandemic, I think. True. That we had been looking for. It's hard to not have high expectations for something like that. That's true. But I think even as a standalone for anyone who didn't have high expectations, I mean, Andrade didn't have high expectations for this and she feels exactly the same way I do. And I'll tell you, people may not like this comparison but I'm going to give it. I don't think there's been a movie on the planet that's had higher expectations than Endgame and it's surpassed everything anybody anticipated by a thousand light years. So just because you have high expectations for something, it doesn't always mean, you know, for the amount of promoting they did, it should have lived up to it. Yeah. And I thought some of the songs were nice. Nothing was outside of, I thought, like I said, I think the last scene, if that was the melodrama that was the film, like in terms of like, you know, the big build up and I would have understood all that. And I was like, okay. Me too. I think that the end scene hit good points on like making you feel this is the end, you know, we're all feeling a collective pride. Yeah. And I thought that ended well and the song that went along with that went well. The other ones, I was like, okay, these are nice songs, whatever, and nothing memorable in terms of the score for sure in this film. Not that I'm like adding to the playlist or that I will probably remember in a few months. But I thought the supporting cast did all well. It's just, it does same things that we've mentioned before. That I think they could have been helped in their portrayal because like Bunty from Sacred Games, I thought he did well. I thought a couple of the other, you know, cricket players did well in what they did. But, you know, I thought they could have been helped in better dialogue writing and better filmmaking and editing together, you know. But I think probably the performances were probably the strongest aspect of the film for me. Yeah, I would say if someone were to ask me that, what do you say is the strongest thing? It's without question. I feel like all of the actors did their utmost that they could with what they had. Yeah, I just, it's just disappointing when I think they could have been great performances given to a great editor, director, writer, all of that. And that's the disappointment because I wanted to put this film in one of the best conversations of the year. That's what, that was my expectation for the film. Of course, me too. Me too. I wanted it to be one of the best films of the year. Me too. That's why, you know, the level of disappointment is high because I was really rooting for everybody in this for this to be... I think I would give this film a C, I think. Yeah, I... Well, because I'm not going to give it an F. I do not believe this film is an F. No, no, no, no. It would be very rare for me to give something an F. It would have to be just overtly horrific. I would give this a D plus. It's just really, really low on the rating scale for me. It just doesn't hit... Forget elevative artistry. It just doesn't hit cinematic artistry for me, except the performances the actors try to give with what little they're offered in terms of script and filmmaking. Yeah. That's the review. And... Sorry, guys, you can let us know what you thought about the film down below, why we're morons or what you thought about it as well. Renvier, we love you so much. I'm sure you're probably not still watching. But... It wasn't your fault. Let me tell you. And Pankajo Dost, I love you so much. I think you're such a wonderful human. He... I just say this last part about him. He can make me smile just by being on screen. Pankajo. He gives you the same thing that Priyanka gives me, which is if Pankajo's happy, everybody's happy. I don't even need Pankajo to be happy. But that's just a bonus. I just need... He has such an endearing quality to him. I just... He does. I just love him. I can't not, but even when he's like a murderer, I'm just like, I love this guy. He's great. Anyways, let us know what you thought about the film down below. And actually, I would say we should watch, but there's a couple of new films coming up. Sadly, a bunch of the new films have disappointed us lately. Hopefully, the next one... That's true. Did you have a Jersey trailer? Did you have a Jersey trailer in the film? We had a Jersey trailer. Yeah. So, on to that one, and there's also that superhero Maliella one as well. That is dropping, I believe, on Christmas as well. So... That's right. Let us know what you thought about the film down below.