 15th day of July, kuna kabaridi flani, ita maze, me pukone kabaridi badoma, it's just me where I come from, it's winter, I don't know, but it's okay, hai zoro, sende yo, yeah, we're gonna get you all warmed up, all heated up here on why in the morning, so we have a very, very interesting conversation coming up next, but kabalani tobu e siri, wacha toa jay introduce, sendo, it's only right and it's only fair, good morning guys, how are you? kuna chakuna chay, nini ni ita ya na, kabaridi tou venyu me siri maze, kadi kwa mbawu, it's not fair, ala kwa dasi mani covid kiko hawa, i pressure the life side, sometimes it's both nice, what is your good name, wama transiba ladies first, transiba ladies kabisa my name is Glory Kadambi, I am a youth advocate for SRE, that is sexual reproductive health and rights, and especially SGPV I'm glad to be here what is an SGPV? section gender based violence oh, sit mazo tu GBV, kuna e SRE puni nambuna wa tu wa kufaitia wa tu raitizawa tu na kaga poevi, it's a glow it's a glow okay, what's your name? I'm Alfreda Buka, SRH champion 2, and majoring on menstrual hygiene aha, kabisa just the other Wednesday we had some guy calling himself Mr. Pads and I've never been so impressed in my life now for me I'm Mr. Daddy wow can we start with you, what exactly do you champion, tell me all about yourself and what you stand for kwa ma menstrual hygiene champion, sexual reproductive health advocate so you break it down for me, like what does it mean, does it mean that you're going to give up pads or you're going to teach me how to be hygienic I guess during my menstrual exactly what do you do, and for what age group? I major mostly on adolescent girls kweeha people what do you mean by kweeha? the LGBTI and then we have those women in prison we have affected and infected girls HIV and people living with disability it's a very wide net, very very wide net okay, tell me more about that, maybe tell me what you stand for what I stand for is one, like right now it's ending teenage pregnancies it's a problem right now in our country and amidst COVID-19 it's actually another pandemic on top of it and I also champion for GBV that is gender based violence because even as we talk about teenage pregnancies and other SRHR matters SGBV is one part of it it's one of the major parts that affect women and girls so I'm an advocate for women and girls right just the other Wednesday once again we were talking about how there's a possibility that we can do narebu mambu itauni nangaliatum stanam dogo napatiatu lift suju na pwa kangumu pa pregnant is that what's going on? honestly I wouldn't say as much as people say boda boda guys are okay yes they contribute to a certain percentage of it but most of it it's from our misinformation from our negligence we as people of this country from our stakeholders not taking responsibilities and things like that talking about do the guys they don't like take that big percentage yes these cases are there and most of them are defilement cases where if you find someone who is 13 and do the person who is like 30 that is of course a defilement case and should be tackled for justice but I would say our policies our stakeholders are the most people who failed us in this Stakeholders in Akinasisi society like anyone who is involved in it parents, beach, parents, teachers low makers and all that there's a video that I saw that I really wish it would just go viral I don't know why sometimes some videos don't go viral but that's not why we're here so it was a teacher and I assume this is pre-covid because they were still in school and were in uniform so it's just like an assembly like any other and then she's clapping she's teaching them something via song and you know she say don't touchy and then she puts over here don't touchy and then she goes over here don't touchy and you know it was a bit controversial because who are we talking to there are we telling the adults to teach their children and to teach them by any means necessary or is it just for children for a certain age how do you feel about that particular method of teaching did I ask a hard question? No, for me we should have like age-appropriate sex education this is a way you can explain to a 9-year-old about sex 13-year-old about sex 17-year-old about sex because we wait until it starts being like a blame game and it's all our fault we never took the initiative to teach them you just say don't do this and then because we are we are beings who are so naive and have certain curiosity so we tend to try to know why did they say that I should not do this and this once a young person is told don't do like ha ha why are you telling me not to do what is happening on that other side and forbidden truth they keep telling me is always the sweetest but haizuru but again as I'm living this life once we had a question again about early pregnancies or teenage pregnancies and one of our viewers rightfully said and I was very humbled you know it's a lot and yes it's worth it to educate the girl child and you know empower but can we also educate the boy child also and empower the boy child because apparently I read in the newspaper that once school open they are going to have a roko and count all the girls who are pregnant but the boys are okay even if they are the ones in pregnanting also them they are alright and what are we trying to say if a boy can do that at 12, 13, 14 are we giving him a license but he can't do that he can't do that so what are we really saying as Abuka is here you can see it's male engagement here like it's male also getting involved in girls issues and as a champion that is what I would advocate for like as we also continue empowering girls let's continue also empowering boys in a way that they become involved in our issues for example on the matter of teenage pregnancy it's so sad that when for example they are all minus like let's say a 14 year old and a 13 year old girl and 14 year old boy the boy can be imprisoned but the girl will continue with her studies the reason the boy I think it's another time we can put our laws to check what really should be done if they are both what should be done exactly should be done but I'm not saying that the girl who is pregnant should be imprisoned also but we should come up with policies and strategies that will help empower each and every one of them okay now some of the statistics that I have right here is girls under the age of 19 years that have been reported pregnant and these are just a couple of counties 1,000 Machakos County we have 1,748 Nakuru County 1,523 in Kajado County 1,006 in Kericho Homa Bay has 957 Garisa has 907 and these are just the ones that have been counted kuna watu weingi sana aja pigwe sabu and they are also pregnant at a very early age and I understand the stigma and I understand that I am not 19 so I understand when we want to say oh you've made a mess of your life oh you've gotten pregnant oh your mother even before your front or lob finish is developing but this is not funny it's already happened they are already pregnant so now what do we do after that we have to look because these statistics in this period of 3 months now we have it's like you have started a second half of this year we have like 6 months ahead before these girls go back to school so they are going to multiply those numbers in Afatuankali the factors which contribute we have girls engaging in sex because of food lack of information lack of sanitary materials because some use to depend on schools and institution where they were for provision of sanitary materials so I think now the main question is how can we provide these necessities to the girls at least easy numbers they reduce ok now that you've said such nice things please give us examples on how we can fix this problem I think provision of menstrual hygiene products to the girls specifically pads easy videos na fazi kwe free kuna mutu ali kwa me suggest that just as nowadays you can find condom dispensers just anywhere so we should always but already ato kusimu na nyesha manzei mingumu bohichial kwa zag when you wanna go down to kwa na umemes to kidoga you ever just by mistake ni need yourself bohichial yung hoja ona sister ato ikona ringa uli kuna ringa sana siyangaliya panini like how are we going to just get out of the stigma in itself are we going to go county by county and I've seen that one of your solutions is TV and radio talks so maybe how has that helped you spearhead this particular initiative this one has helped us because like we are here right now as stakeholders are watching our lawmakers are watching and so this information goes out to them that we girls need these things we need them like a book I say we need them in our society rich now schools are closed girls used to depend on menstrual hygiene products from their schools say how a party only from people like him who go community to community providing them with sanitary pads but say because of covid we are all restricted staying at home and all that it has brought a lot more issues more danger to their culture I can say that what we can do is try to give out information correct information on ending menstrual shame yeah we can as well continue giving out correct information on SRHR and that will bring all of us together this is what we was talking about comprehensive sexuality education in the government in Apingasana but I think age appropriate information to our young people because we cannot continue staying we have a problem but we continue staying depending on the problem like we are just waiting for solutions to come from above but we cannot we have to be the solutions to our society but we live in a world where there was once a bill proposed that guys who rape girls should be castated of course very fast it was a buy because it's a man's world but that almost wanted to suggest that we lower the age of girls when they can actually start having sex legally but education has to happen we have to lower the age of girls so how we can actually I want to count and dissolve I want to save money and I want to scare really let's just be honest how can we have a voice allow the voice enough for us to showcase what's happening on the ground so the time you must break that stigma and the only way the information is disseminated to the ground to kiyangalia kama conversation maybe like for menstrual hygiene enough what you know nyesha this is not only a women issue it's our collective responsibility to kiyangalia like for teenage pregnancy enough what you know nyesha the actual numbers on the ground how people are suffering so again maybe let me just veer off a little bit because our topic of the day is GBV kumbe kuna SGBV kuna sexual gender based violence and then this gender based violence and we're trying to figure out you in the audience I'm quite sure ushona kwa Facebook page we're asking how to deal with GBV and something that has possibly you know increased because of covid and not really covid itself but the directives not that have come with covid stay at home you know work from home self isolation maybe 1 times 3 a week saying daily you know and I don't know it's very hard to intervene for example maybe let me use myself as an example if I lived somewhere and I heard people fighting in the night I don't think I would have the right to interfere with someone's life but I would want to stop it so what's going on how we're going to deal with this for GBV what I would say is that our laws have failed us terribly our justice system are broken terribly kwa sababu tapata many perpetrators are out there working freely you go report a case but no justice as we've only got one even if you go to report people don't have that need to go and report like when it comes to fighting you don't have that energy to go report you go report because you're like nothing will be done but then if we get something done right from the justice system then we're going to tackle this problem even as an advocate sometimes you see people fighting and you're like you try to intervene but you also want to be safe yourself We can go there, we can go to Kewadu. So, to be safe is, I would say, let us take measures that protect women. Let us take measures that protect these people who are being beaten up. Let us have these policies that we have very good policies in our country implemented because they are not being implemented. We have the penal code, we have the sexual harassment law but they are all not being implemented. You will go report a case but nothing is done. So, we just stay here. Again, this is not very limited to Kenya though. So, you would find if someone of an influential family commits maybe an offence, maybe a pigem to a manbake, it's not going to be very easy to report. And even if you report, it's not going to go anywhere because I hear wukuni connections, easy streets. So, how do we protect the vulnerable? How do we protect the people who after a kiyeno report by the way, after kongali atu? Say, okay. Thank you for letting us know. As she said, systematical messed up. So, we have very good policies. She didn't implementation. She didn't know to anya kwa pombele. Because oneeza pata, mitu anenda kuhu report a case in a police station. Oneeja inafa also we have a special desk and special people to deal with this issue because the same police man when he kwa akidil na kesewizi he is the same person when he atahandle mitu munya kwa assaulted. Because oneeba pata mitu anenda kutu report a case he am assaulted muna zaku nuliza witness munya li kwa hapo, muna zaku nuliza li kwa nisa angapi, teme nyan nimeva, kutu nyan li kwa nimeva, sawa nashanga. At that time, lambda mental state yango ikosawa. For sure yango ikosawa. Kosa wele trauma eneja, mitu zanya nime experience. Sawa inafa to change, ni system tu inafa to change. And then the other thing pia must change our mentality because most people we live in akakuns chu nili ona mama angu aki pigu na me dad na ona niki piga manzi munya nesinae, it's normal. Manzi yango niki piga yana ona ju maimama niki maimama aki pigu na maidat na kwa ito roka lemi nitu li e kwa sababu hindo be life ina kwangayivi. Sawa inafa to live in reality. Zilev tu zey nitu kwa zina happen tu zilev kwa makosa zewetu amav tu zey nitu me kwa tu kia ona. Cause people are suffering. And they are doing it in silence. I speak here of silence. It's also stigma. We've talked about stigma for manzis and just basically generally just getting pads or anything. PPEs are manzis. Hei. So now in the same breath there's also gender based violence. There's also sexually based gender based violence for guys. Boy child pia na maia. Ju zitu uswa li kwa mifungu awadia batad mena. Tu kwa wachia kwa, sende yo. Situ li wachia kwa. Muka sama ma no maia nisha pigu aji na dem. Sende yo. That time mitu ame haki wa kichwa iti huwa like for legit. That was... Lakin mitu angi ma kasi di kwa zengi nizu toka a paper tiso right. So how do we reach out to guys? How do we reach out to young boys? I want to be also just be careful when you go into public restrooms. You never know who you're going to find. You know. How do we keep our boys safe? And is it is it not more tabu for our boys to talk about eh, nani ame kumigu zapa na kwa nafa kumigu zapa so nifia nini. I think there's nothing like tabu. Ya we must teach our boys to be vulnerable. That issue, the manawme mentality. Manawme nijasho. Eh, yuki tu na faise because people are suffering na the moment anasema, it's too late. At least them kitu ita happen atasema. Most of them. Lakin ni ju tumi kwa cultured kutokwem dogu kiliwa na papa na manawma kwangilvo so na pata people are suffering. Ya. So we must just teach our our men and young boys to be vulnerable. Ya. Saying your issue is not a weakness but I think it's the first step to healing. There's someone who suggested that if if it should be, okay education should be like this. That means a girl child aki ambiwa na boy child listen your worth a lot more than kangumu ama sujiwi. Nini nini na trapi juzi ni mwa na. Juzi ni mwa na mili nini na kwa ati, ati, oh. So say the text. Babe I'm afraid. Ati I'll catch coronavirus. Ati no don't be afraid you won't catch it. Ati why? Because you're an angel. It is just humans that get COVID-19. So Mr. Naniwa yasha ruka roho roho do do do do do. Kame kufi apu umutu pregnancy suddenly. How can we nani stage two in life? Sindio. Ata mini di changanikiwa na some funny umutu akumbe the most beautiful girl in the world ata na passport. Ya. Ata aje ita pa. Nairodi watake na. Nairodi ati. Nairodi ati. But ati akumbe the most beautiful girl in the world. Na usha believe na nini. How can we educate our especially this time? Kusuna josa itu na mbe all the things kuna technology you know. Onee zani textu siku usiku. Ni kwa besitu kutame pala kwa miwa keshu. Na standbiam tu. How do we tell them what's up? Like na usione we're being old. Ama atutaki watwa pendane. Like how do we get them out of that? How do we include them? Now you want to behave like an adult. You want to do adult things. Then you must know adult consequences. How do we do that? Well, I believe for one to have sex you have to consent to it here. And you have to be knowing the consequences of it. So kitumineza advice ni let us let us okay like I talked about comprehensive sexuality education age-appropriate sexuality education. Isu yaba you tell a child umtoto aki gruto aki amdongo. Na kapom na watch TV na watch the same programs. Ame umtoto ikitu na initangwaivi. Usi se meis, geni, snake. This is a snake. This is a swishy word. Say it by word. Say it as it is. Kus ui umtoto atendokonje piy apreshe itam fata. Atambuana beshte ake. Ui ambatia ni nini wana checka by the way. Kus they know these things. As you say technology say it's not those olden days enyungedang anyam. Toto ui tokaku amungu. And you believed it. Iti ni dikunu na wakus per market and you believed. They know where they came from. Mama mami ame baya untroko buchare. Yeah, they know where they came from. So honestly, what I would say is that the government omekatari asana ekitu ya age-appropriate sexuality. Onasa mabilolkona. Se meitu ki ambiwa these are my private parts wobisha akufonza. But omeni ambiya too these are my private parts. What are they? I'll be curious. As a child I'll be curious to go and know what are these ones. Ii na fanya nini and all that. But then if you tell me take care of yourself these are the values that you should uphold and this is how you should take care of yourself. For example if you indulging in sex this is how you can protect yourself here. Like okay, squeeze it no go pamin bata kuliko wagonja. Do you know what that is? Do you know what that is? To no go pamin bata kuliko HIV kuliko STAs and all that. But then if you educate a child and tell her is in na kumbukatikia high school wabing shondos photos of syphilis and all those stuff na ugi o gopa. That was our principle. She wanted to okay I would say she was teaching us on how to approach to that. Which worked. Then what what if we implement CEC in our schools? It is going to work for everyone and these cases are going to reduce. For the boy child what I can say una onaga boy child squeezing no mostly wanna commit suicide. Why? The community has told them you're a strong person men don't cry men don't do this and that. Mano me aki ambiwa no ana pasiu atilu wambiwa yes. You know and some of those pressures are what are putting us in the state we are right now. As some of the state that zimefanya kwa kwa na increase of teenage pregnancy na GBV and all that. Kwa sambub mano me aki approach wambiwa no aone una ringa adi ambiwa una zidi una zidi una zidi atendele kukuja. And so you find in the end of the day umemkata ame kurep. What are you losing? Ama me kupingashoka. You see. So I think our society is really misinformed and you should pass this information from one to the other person. Correct information. I want to ask how can we make a difference? You guys are doing fantastic work and we appreciate you truly but me me na viewa tuna tuna zidi anaje like how can we because the people who are watching us are spread out kuna mtuwa kisomu kuna mtuwa costa na tuwaj kuna mtuwa mero embu kajado all those places and and they have things to say. So how can we influence them accordingly? How can we turn each other into teachers? And before you answer that I hear you have a couple of thoughts that I'd really like to read so it's at Whitefarm Facebook at Whitefarm channel on Twitter hashtag is why in the morning all right so behind me somewhere we have a denoki place as watching from Eldorette I see you to handle GBV they need to guide them on and also motivate them and teach them on disadvantage of early pregnancies denon mekwana Enrico mekwana piwa wewa Sungoch and you are say oh lemi Sungoch Kenyaga County locked pregnancies are aragwan mekwana klement letisiasas watching from embu for teen parents who parents and pregnant teachers girls are covering majority teenage boys who impregnate their girls and use a general term watu and do the agent lini to address our teenagers especially the spirit of COVID-19 Tyler I see Val watu wa peri info na see madam peke yas do your watu at a boy child and I touch the info like anybody else I see you from 020 hashtag is of why in the morning so yes you are going to tell me something as you can see mekwana tu mesink ma'am tu ame ruapu ma'am tu ame embu so how can we all become teachers how can we all become ambassadors starting with me because charity begins at home I think enough to watch the blame game Sai because ikitu kilam tu akuna role yaku play the same way watu anase manga enough to take it as a personal initiative atu takiku kwa nele kitu una kama sa ii tunajari buk sema appropriate sex education wana kata the same way unezafunzisha mtoto kimpea kitu kiyom dog wa semiya sante monosin fundisha kusu mili ake kusu issues to do with sexuality kutoka akiyom dog wasabunapa tanga unim tutumu niya konaif na kitiote nyutamu ekea nduata groku juwa na hata ifa niya mistik kwasabuana juwa akuna walipe niya atarifa would he or she go to him he was still young and then the other thing piya all stick holders in affa wa take roles aw from parents the society religious leaders atu takiku kitu any munaupos and then when things happen you start blaming satan mmhm ya ee witu na fasi pili anit nori tumpego inawama sitani na bag ya and then the other thing also our lawmakers we have good policies what you want is the implementation mmhm ee tuna takapa traitors watake wa kwebrote into book ee iskweni the same person ame kwa kivawele tuwa tuna tuna muwana mmhm ee kuzana tumpea very proud kuna malineza mpeleka ya yaa society piya inafatwa tstigmatization kuna witu zene una pata with this violation untu akuna odasiti akumek like a rape joke anasa ukuamba something like that kitu ya kwanza inatromatizu lem tumenya shape itia situation kaiyo na inenkaritos pa petritas outside there wonekuamba this is a normal thing ya I once saw a very bad joke just because you said that I'm going to say it out loud na ilikwam stana me post ati ati rape is not a crime it is just surprise sex how's that what sis security security security come on collect this one what are you even oh my gosh how can you inato anguwe kusana witu zengine kamezo wa piya and instead of talking about asenow ee you want to talk about that how do we help these ones na wastana akshanzakungi evo who's going to take us seriously wuna shangata sasana ni atatua me ni who who and those ones who even lie those people who lie about being raped how are we going to be believed now when it's actually the truth ya what I would say it's time we shift the shame and blame from the victims to the perpetrator if we shift the shame and blame from wone ame kuwa ame kuanda ame nda go rape ame nda go all that then you're going to focus to the perpetrators and see has the law worked against them has the person who's been raped or undergone sexual violence gotten help have they gotten help like right now we have the gender desk at the police station but are they working really do you go there and report and your case is polluted to the letter do people have information on how they can collect evidence or how they can present themselves for example kikuwa raped unadjo ufai kuoga unadjo mgoza kwa unafa kuzi eka kwa kujifunga na magazin tikuwa pepa baga makua bag do evidence is quite amped with do you know all that so lack of information is one of the things zinye zina to hold back as a society as a community as a country ya naki tumineza sema girl child it is not wrong to fix your other queen's crown let us fix each other's crowns go and bless you yes cause tuna hendele apa kungelia women empowerment girl child empowerment but we are our own enemies so i would say let us champion for our own selves cause if we don't honestly no one will no one will i hope volumi kwa sa amatua mgeze volumi maulim kwa excuse hi at 224 on facebook at 224 on twitter hashtag is oh why in the morning okay all right so maybe the last question nikuwa na notes guys a very serious presenter was evangivi atu but i'm very see very serious okay so you touched on one of the stakeholders of which the the religious bodies you know and i think we have three main ones the christianity islam and buddhism i'm not too sure if they're just those three but there's a time and the church came up and said abstinence is the only answer you know so what does that mean kama tumeshi noko abstain sa satva niniaki tum kia tumi kama tumi kama tumi kia tumi kia tumi kia tumi kia because it's the truth and if someone is an avid believer of whatever religion they subscribe to they are prone to listen to that person as opposed to the one who's telling you ona nani kuna STDs kuna STIs kuna pregnancy dropa issue jo apundo kuna evidence yamaimba so how do we reach to all these people without interfering with what they believe in for me i was listening to pasaris and kinamili when they were talking about the reproductive health care bill and there is one thing they said that really hit me hard they were talking to religious leaders and they told them it's time we stop pretending these things are not amidistas na wakati wene uu kuaffected you're the first person to go and access that service for example sefa boshon utapata they are so against all these things they are so against contraceptives like the catholic church they are so against contraceptives for example but utapata if they need it they go for it they will go kama untuoni ako so much into the religion but anaitaji you'll find them going for them so what our donor says let us stop living in those kakuns of ati it's wrong it's wrong it's wrong but you're doing them behind our backs we know these things you're doing them behind your backs behind our backs samtaki zikwe past into laws or into policies that can help other people because as a country untuoni ako na mo power the person who has money as they always say what happens to this person money ako kwa kijiji what happens to this girl money ana bleed kila siku for like 7 11 days na hafod pads if we don't pass ati pads zikwe free then how are we helping our society so it's time we we live in the current we stop living in our past we advocate for what really is going to help our country and our society yeah all right so i'm just going to ask really did you have something to add yeah okay kama vinyal komese ma we must base on the reality kus you have people wrapped in church yeah alafu when it happens to other people you are a genestist but when it happens to you now you you say that you are humans we make mistakes so it's it's time just to face the reality yeah kama umtum kubuaki when it was just a moment of weakness na fatukum sa mehe because they offer so much to the society kwanzaakalenda apokam angusha donation ya mita tu mita tu mita sa weos na ah what happened where it's okay and i've even seen like there's some some countries that make it okay for someone to be raped aso long as the rapist marries the person that they've raped i don't know how that takes lakini all right emuisho kus i am an entertainer there has come up a particular genre of music called kengetun sindio and they say i want to believe vitu zingine tu nona kwa society siniki oto they just mirror what exactly is happening on the ground but there's some people who blame in this music because atiyo when you are anongia they just talk about you know drugs and kudu tu like that's the only thing on their mind but i have a question because mistase came tumenda studia kato angom tumingine kajadokashka memba but peya in the same breath niki patam toto na imbawam lambes ni nita stuka a little bit mehe na jo hana jo hana kuhimba miss jo hana jo hana where do these students get this intellect from what is okay so is that something that we should worry about or should we is that another blame game what's going on i think it's although nivi tu zingine contentia o it's overga to say lakini the same people when you want to blame his goma how peya how uphold the responsibility junapata ni hawa they're the same lawmakers sasa inafa before ublemu zako what are you doing on the ground niki tu gani ni nafanya before you stand on the pulpit na kuhu ublemu the songs niki tu gani ni umifanya within your environment before the parent amamalimu ablem parent kwi tu gani zenye tunafanya kwa zi zingoma hasdianza leo nukweli na sayatis na enda kwa ishati sa iniinafatu to take responsibility as a whole kilamtu a play party ake e na twaichi that blame game yeah because before we had moral police wana zeki umutua good morning kuli kwa na masuonga mani ake all sizes juwan nangpenda juwan sasa skia na why are we burning these ones and the other ones we didn't burn ama that it's okay hashtag is why in the morning misdringu lizen nani apa but my feeling is towards the girl child dem aki sama no aki ditambua aki sama you know what maybe it's not even about you maybe you're a wonderful person you know maybe you're a wonderful guy and maybe I would want to pursue something in future but for now my answer is no jumi na tka na jwa ken ataka na tka kwa dasule amana tka kubaki evi but as soon as wambe tumano me no oh my girl kwa nga tum na maringo kwa zanashka nga tuma feelings and the same person the same guys who go on a comment section and tell us to know our worth that we are more than kangumu so tumafakuski zanani ama it just depends come on me when do nani katia na fa tu kusama yes na dosi sama nika na feelings na tumengi na ken katia that's when I can say no is that what we are saying panai na fa if it's a no it's a no me the same way lemme give a scenario umengi ya koteli kumengi ya koteli unata ka chahi unesa itisha onaya kwa chahi na iyo chahi ka fikaapu kafili ni kama wu jiski kukunu kato kuka toka na isa kua labda ali sema yes lakini within the process a kakaivi a kafkiriya a kasema no umengi ya e respectile jibu enyame kupemi amu isho kama ali sema yes lakini a karumi a kasema no watiku eno umengi usianda kusema o umbona usiuli kumemi sema yes apana pa tu lembi ama no me aiziji anafa kupemi wa everyday na her aiziji control a kuna kitu ka ii ama say ni ni ni ni ni anba no don't lie sit the truth you can correct me I sit to be corrected sa inafatuna respect opinioni a kila ama tuna standi a kila ama to always yeah all right what do you think I have something to add that is about consent ya niki consent leo hai manishi ni me consent for all my life ma ni kamao deo na manome wu bengali mbrembo you know what I'm talking about manome kuna toka mbeo you've led him on na wizuri toz kwa mbea to mwishu to nani staki uchali ee if he's not in a position to make your life difficult after that he might as well just hurt you now no if I if I consented jana he doesn't mean me consent all my life if I said no I mean my no honestly for me if I say no I mean my no and it's time that as I said earlier men should wana faku kudiku bali they are vulnerable na waku bali majibu yeah sit uki ambi wa no do say unafi leti nil uki ambi nil uki ambi wa no do na fahu pasumo ati ataku bali badae tsa lae and ladies let us hold to what we believe in if you say no let your no be no if you say yes let your yes pay us and and I would like just to emphasize that saying yes maybe consenting to sex does not mean that now you will be loved awi together ebu onge zeni volume apu tefa value sana sana kama boy child ebu please tell them just agreeing to have sex does not mean that your your loved it has it has to say I don't know how it feels to hear but it has it's hard to say but kuna kukaku concept flani uki sama no that means aki kuwana asimu kuna feelings that means you'll never be loved or no no never love you or no one will ever want you again or no one will ever pursue you again and it's not the truth you know don't be saying yes just because you can say yes sometimes just say no no nuka desura no we together no your last comments as we wrap this up for me what I would say is that it's time everyone should be accountable parents teachers beat okay like people in the past we've seen parents blame teachers like last year last year but one during the kcp we saw parents blame teachers at wille they are they are higher raised numbers of teenage pregnancies but say what to talk about home they are with parents who are with blaming they are there with the highest actually number of teenage pregnancies we've ever seen in our country so it's time we stop the blame games let all stakeholders do their part as a parent do you put a kiss kiyosong yagingetoni me imba acham tuto ai imba asa imba mumbe mama una jo anini iina se maivi iina se maivi kama I was I was afraid to see my niece kamatia chini and then she say and chini kuna kamatia kumoku liko yalto hi yeah he's like so it's time it's time okay I like I talk to her and told her una jo inini una jo inini imba and that's why achal will grow knowing what exactly they should know for the boy child let us teach our boys to respect women from waki o adogo and they will grow respecting each other respecting women respecting girls even to whatever age they get to yeah that's deep how would you like to finish it yeah for me people be responsible accountable for their act because in the midst of this covid thing hadu juite shalini and the numbers out here alarming in terms of sexual harassment teenage pregnancy so inafa we just play our role kilam tu yeah I like that na kuna witu zingine mo scare ti demaki vajinsu nyez memtite sana oh she's asking for it I don't know who told you thank you I don't know who told you who asked for it oh demaki vavizuri ame vaji awan ume ala sometimes I just want to look in the mirror kwa psa umo joki tembeata ala kuna place kuna tiki om tuji mm vabu makafiri leo ala full life in the lives not necessarily about the third party and anyway we are still here one in the morning I tried to find on facebook I tried to find on twitter hashtag is why in the morning thank you for being with us on this very deep conversation like it kona in kina no sien desawa ya see you in a bit