 I know that, like many of my fellow trustees, I really enjoy being a member of the Board of Trustees of IID. And that for me is largely because I share the values of IID as an organization. And it's fascinating for me to see how those values are lived through the work that is done every day in IID. The other reason that I really enjoy being a trustee is because I learn so much. And that learning comes in two key ways. One from my fellow trustees because it's a diverse international board. So I'm exposed to perspectives and opinions and views and banks of knowledge that are very, very different to my own reality. And I really enjoy that and learn a lot from it. And the other way that I learned through the board is through the interactions we have with IID staff. And that's part of every board meeting. And it is very enriching to get to both know the personalities, but to hear firsthand of the research, to understand the evidence that's been brought to the table. And also to understand and live through them the different ways of working that are constantly emerging and being tried and tested. So for me being a member of the Board of Trustees of IID is, yes, it uses its uptime, it's a commitment, but I also gain a lot and learn a lot from the experience.