 I'm going to start the webinar and start the recording. And we can let people in that way if needed. That sounds good. I mean, sometimes I know you send us a panel of points, but sometimes I can't find them either. I like look everywhere. Well, apparently the one I sent out today was just the general one, so I don't know. I think so. Yeah. Well, now we have Bruce, we have Marcus and Kim. Kim might be an attendee. So could we let her in? Oh, and Myra Ross is here, too. I'd be happy if they both want to join as panelists. Yeah, everyone's popping up. So hold on one second. I had trouble logging on. Yeah, I think we got the panelist one. We were not welcome. I didn't know my term was up already. I know. It's like. Myra, I'm trying. Yeah, Bruce. Yeah, great. Bruce, have you been asked if you want to stay on? And can you tell us a secret answer? No, I haven't been contacted. Oh, OK. All right. I heard from the town manager's office that somebody there was going to ask you. Oh, that's very nice. Yeah, no, I've not heard anything. OK. Well, thank you. Please tell us all the secret handshake. I will. Well, he's the longest member, I think. I'm glad you said that, I said the oldest member. Oh, definitely not the oldest member. Yes, yeah. But yeah, when you served the town before that, right on the planning board and other. Yes. Thanks. So can Myra come in? Maybe she wants to just be an attendee if that. Myra, if you can hear us and you want to be a panelist, feel free to click that. And otherwise, we'll keep you as an attendee and you can raise your hand if you want to speak. Thank you. Oh, Myra's here. OK. Yeah, I was outside. I don't have a panelist email. And the sunbird has left. I thought I was supposed to, but I guess I didn't get it. It's OK. But you're here now. Thank you. Does anybody hear me? Myra, yes, I'm trying to promote you to a panelist, but it's not OK. It's going to have you rejoin the webinar as a panelist. I don't know if you can see that on your end. I mean, she's on the screen, so she is a panelist, right? No, it just says she's an attendee. Oh, I see. Yeah, it took me out and made me come back in again. All right. All right, should we get this meeting going? We have. Definitely, let's get it going. So, Cam, do you have that language or do you want me to pull it up? Yes, I have it. Pursuant to go on and make this March 12, 2020 order, suspending certain provisions, the open meeting law. This meeting of the TAC is being conducted by a remote participation. The first agenda item, welcome to everyone. There are some new people to me. I'm Kim Tremblay, a longstanding standing member of the TAC, and although I'm the vice chair, I tend to run the meeting and Tracy does the seriously heavy lifting part, which is all. Kim keeps us on track. Yeah, I keep us on track. That's right. So the first agenda item is any public comment. And I'm not sure who here is. I mean, we're all public. We are all public and private members, I guess. But if anyone has any comments prior to the meeting, I see no hands. We're all members or staff at my room. Would you have any public comment? OK, no public comment. So our next agenda item is the approval of the past meeting minutes. We have Amber handed out minutes from the Thursday, February 10th and Thursday, March 3rd meetings. I'll pause for a few moments to allow people to read those minutes and make sure they jive with what your recollection is. And we will vote on those in a moment. Kim, she also distributed the February 10th meeting minutes. Oh, that's funny. I didn't February 10th. Yeah. I think we were backed up a little bit. No, it's an attachment that she wrote today. Date. Because we have the February 10th. You said, yeah, we have the February 10th and March 3rd. Is there another one? There were three in the attachments that Amber sent out this morning. Yeah, one was the attachment was the agenda. One was the current agenda. Oh, OK, got it. OK, thank you. Thanks for clarifying. I just have a couple of editorial directions on March the 3rd under number three, parking permit regulation or vision memo. It should be individual instead of individually. Oh, yeah. And then I wasn't sure what the meeting was under C. Memo was presented at TSO meeting. And Tom manager would check in and see if the attack regulations made sense. Is there is there maybe a word missing there somewhere? And we asked that he check. Or I wasn't sure what that whole meeting was there. So that was just an update provided by me. And I think that my recollection of that TSO meeting was that what the town manager and the finance director said is that the attack and made two recommendations. We had made one recommendation about Paige and Beston and then the one recommendation about the North Pleasant Street near Kendrick Park and that he just wanted to because those were unfamiliar to him. He wanted to just double check with staff such as DPW and planning and the parking people and so on to see if our recommendations made sense to move forward. I will say at the last TSO meeting, the more recent one that the TSO agreed with the Paige and Beston item and they didn't take any action and they didn't take any action on the North Pleasant Street. The town manager mentioned that the DPW will be making a new presentation to the council soon on the North Pleasant Street at Kendrick. So I guess in terms of the minutes, instead of just saying the tax regulations, we don't have regulations, but you could just say if the tax recommendations maybe, if we just change that, does that make sense to people? Yes. So and we could also just say would check with other, would check with town staff, you know, just to vet the tax recommendations kind of thing. I could propose then that the minutes for February 10th and March 3rd be approved with those changes made. A second, you second Bernie? Yep. All those in favor? I think we, I'm gonna abstain because I wasn't at one of those, but it looks like otherwise a unanimous decision. Yes, okay. All right. Thank you. And thank you, Amber. Thanks. And the next agenda item is a proposed new crosswalk on the East Pleasant. And as well as the related shared streets, grants, improvements. And this will be a presentation by Ben Breger and Christine Brestrup. Great. Thank you. Can everyone hear me okay? Yes. And I'm just before they speak, this hadn't come up at our last meeting, but just for a little bit of context. So after our last meeting, I was contacted by Chris and just asked because the town manager had been in touch with the council president and so on. And they were interested in getting the TAC and DAC feedback on the proposed changes before it goes to the council for consideration. So Chris and Ben asked to invite us to the meeting and here they are. And I'm looking forward to that presentation. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Well, nice to meet you all virtually. My name is Ben Breger. I'm a planner with the town. So yeah, I'll just give you a little bit of background. The town we applied for and received, I think it was around $184,000 grant from MassDOT under their shared streets program. This was a, their shared streets program was kind of a response to the pandemic and the really big focus on outdoor spaces, outdoor dining, pedestrian safety, and just making downtowns safer. And really it's all about, it's supposed to be quick implementation projects. However, they've been nice and very flexible with some of these larger infrastructure projects, even like just a crosswalk and curb ramps can take a little while to plan out and install. So we got this grant, I wanna say in the winter, we've implemented parts of the grant, which I'll show you images of today. We've also had to shift courses a little bit from the original scope and are now proposing spending the funds on a new proposed crosswalk near Kendrick Park. So we're seeking your input and approval on that today. But I also just wanted to give you an update on the grant and show you what we've done so far. So I will share my screen here. So I'm gonna just run through some kind of highlights so far. So we have repainted three crosswalks in downtown Amherst, kind of in the northern part of downtown Amherst, and that's using the new thermoplastic brick treatment. Along with those three crosswalks, there's been three or a six curb ramps that have been redone and have tactile surface pads added to them near the spoke and I think the people's bank, that area. There's been around 200 feet of repaved sidewalk with asphalt finish. We've ordered rapid response flashing beacons to be placed in and around that area. And then yeah, coming before you today to show you the proposal for the new crosswalk at Garcia's and then another kind of future goal is to fill this sidewalk gap on Triangle Street. That's kind of outside of Kendrick Place, the building in that area, Kendrick Place. And I'll show you a map of where that is. So here's kind of the areas where we've done crosswalks. So we've done crosswalks. I'm sorry, just to orient you, oh, this is Kendrick Park. You see the roundabout here. So we've done crosswalks at the intersection here with North Pleasant. I can't see. Yeah, I can zoom in a little bit. Is that helpful? No, no, no, I just couldn't see your cursor. Cursor, OK. Sorry. Can you see it now? Yes. OK, maybe I'll do the hand. Yeah, that's easier. So yeah, we've done a crosswalk here. This one has been repainted. This one is more like a mid-block crosswalk, if you will. I guess it's technically at the intersection of Prey and North, or Prey and East Pleasant. It's East Pleasant here. So that one has been redone. And then the one that crosses over Prey has been redone with the thermoplastic brick treatment. And then the 200 feet of new sidewalk kind of extends from this bus stop here all the way kind of midway up to the spoke. And so just I'll get to this a little bit later, but just to show you the proposed crosswalk. I guess you can't see Kendrick playground on this map, but Kendrick playground is over here. There's an asphalt path that comes down and meets the sidewalk here. And the proposed new crosswalk would connect the end of that asphalt trail that's within the park and then continue across East Pleasant towards what is now Garcia's restaurant. And so that's the proposed new crosswalk location. I'll show you drawings for that in a second. And then just to orient you, the sidewalk gap that we're wanting to fill is kind of somewhere in this area. It's also around 150 feet. And my understanding is there used to be sidewalk there, but when they built Kendrick place, there had to be utility work there. So they ripped up the sidewalk, and then it hasn't been replaced since then. So we're going to look at replacing or kind of filling in that gap to try to really try to complete that network. If you're walking down Triangle Street, kind of sidewalk just kind of ends, which is no fun for anyone. Here's just some images of the new crosswalks and the tactile warning pads. This is crossing over Prey Street. You can see the new sidewalk that was done as well. This is the same area, I guess, before they actually put in this crosswalk. So there is a thermoplastic crosswalk there. Now we kind of see the extent of the new sidewalk and the grasses kind of come back up, which is nice in this area. And then here's crossing over East Pleasant Street towards Kendrick Park. You'd be standing at the People's Bank right now and looking towards Kendrick Park. So, and then here's crossing, I always blank on this street name, but it's, is it? About Little Street. Halleck maybe, or? Yeah, it's Halleck. Halleck, yeah. So you're crossing over Halleck on your way to Kendrick Park here. And we've gotten really good reviews on the thermoplastic brick. I'm sure Gullford can speak to that a bit more as well, but it's durable, it's highly visible. You can see it as you're approaching and it has a little bit of non-slip surface to it. It's grippy, which is nice. So yeah, we feel good about it. And then I'll show you, yeah, here's just an image of the gap in the sidewalk on Triangle Street. It just kind of ends there. So we'll work towards kind of laying some new sidewalk in that area. And then, so I'm gonna, now kind of shift here. Quick question, sorry. Yes. Why is the town responsible for that when somebody else did it? Yeah, I don't know too much about the history. That is a definitely good, valid question. I might need to look at kind of the permitting history or something like that, but maybe it's just been lost with time, if there was an agreement about that. I mean, I think it's private property. Like I looked into it because I had raised this issue before TSO at least like six months ago or a year ago. I mean, it used to even be blocked like with a Jersey barrier, but it's sort of been this gap for a while. And I think it's actually owned by the people who own the adjacent like parking lot, because it's sort of considered like an access point to the parking lot or it could be or something. Well, I mean, I'm glad it's getting fixed because it is, I mean, it's a critical gap. It's the, you know, in the middle of downtown. And it has to be private property, are we having to purchase the land? Anyway. It must be the public way. Yeah, it's public way. I mean, you know, anyway, Chris may have additional information is part of the public way. It's not private property. The private property ends at the edge of the building. Building is right up on the property line. That's close. Yeah. That's close. I'd be interested to know, you know, why it didn't get fixed when it got busted since it's public way. But at least they're fixing it now. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So now if it's okay, I'm going to just switch gears a little bit and show you the drawings that DPW produced for the new crosswalk. And this is what we're needing to get town council approval for because it's a change in the public way. So we're, yeah, just interested in any feedback or thoughts you may have on this proposal. So again, just to kind of orient you, here's the Locust map. It's Garcia's over here, Kendrick Park. You can kind of see here's an updated image that shows that asphalt pathway coming out. And basically the crosswalk, either be a new curb ramp here, the crosswalk would pick up right there and come across the street towards Garcia is what you see up here. Here's the construction drawing. So this, the crosswalk itself would be the thermoplastic brick, like we've seen in downtown with the newer crosswalks, tactile pads on either edge, and then just ramping to get down from the sidewalk and down from the path here as well. So fairly straightforward, I think, crosswalk proposal with two new curb ramps. So... May I just ask, it looks as if on the park side, there is a street lamp. Is there a street light or lamp somewhere on the other side of these pleasant street that's nearby the crosswalk? Can you, does it indicate? So yeah, on the park, you see there's one right here on this side of them. I'm not entirely sure. That's a good point though. I'll make a note of that. It doesn't look like there's one on the other side and that would be helpful. Yeah. So I have a question. So I really love my children walk. I live off of McClellan and my kids walk to the high school every day. So they use the new crosswalk by People's Bank every day to walk to school. So thank you, that's beautiful. I love that. I'm curious who the sidewalk there, why a sidewalk on that side, on North Pleasant, or is that North Pleasant? That's North Pleasant, East Pleasant. Why not on the East Pleasant side? Because the people who are using the playground are not people coming from Garcia's or even people coming from, you know, either of those new apartment complexes. It's people coming from, because there's also no public parking on that side, right? So parents with children are coming from the other side of the, of like McClellan and North Pleasant side and there currently actually are no crosswalks on North Pleasant from like crossing the street there, actually zero on North Pleasant. You know, that stretch of North Pleasant from McClellan that hit the park. But no, aren't those in the plans? Well, they're all in the plans, yeah. Who the sidewalks are for. So I can, sorry, but for me, is really, I mean, I park in the, you know, the Prairie Street lot and go across to the Kendrick with my kids. The number of times, sorry. Which a lot. Prairie Street lot. It's over here, yeah. I really don't know that. Yeah, I mean, basically back there, because they've got an electronic vehicle charging. No, there's public parking back there. Oh, there are. Yeah. And the number of times I have had to stop because somebody is jaywalking between Garcia's and the Kendrick Park Park is just silly. So this is like exactly in the right spot. I mean, it's. But where, but you don't use the one that is on Prairie. I do. I'm saying that there are so many people that jaywalk between Garcia's and the Kendrick Park that I've had to stop for. Personally, when I'm driving my car down into town, that this is like exactly, you know, the right spot. Because if you're parking at the Prairie Street lot or wherever you're going, you don't really want to have to go down to the bank and then come up to the park. You want to go across. Which was exactly. Which one? Sorry, Marcus, which is the, where is it? So you see where Prairie is in the map that you just showed us? Yeah, so it's, it's here. Right there. Yeah. They've got electric vehicle charging points right there. So I park there. Prairie Street is that small street, Kim that runs between East Pleasant and Triangle. And there's public parking in that area. I had no idea. There's the business parking. Like we're the laundry app, there's also a public parking lot in there. Yeah. But that will be going away, right? And there's also, and there's also permit parking. No, there's also permit parking in there too. I had no idea. Sorry, I never. Yeah, yeah, but I do have one question though. Sorry. Given, given the street, is there a thought to raising the crosswalk? Because it seems like it would be an excellent opportunity to slow traffic going, you know. Stop people accelerating from the roundabout by putting that as a raise. I think that's an excellent idea, Marcus. I was thinking the same thing, that to slow down traffic both directions. Yeah. Sorry, there's a ton of people with their hands up. Sorry, sorry. I can't see anybody. Sorry. No, all right. Who else has a question? A lot of almost all of us have their hands up. Can you just ask him? Even Guilford, Guilford has his hand up too. No, I can't see. I don't know why I can't see anything. I see Myra has a question. Yes, it's actually not a question. I just wanted to tell you how the DAAC responded to this issue, which I love the raise crosswalk idea. We did not think of that. So that's perfect. And I wanna just fill you in on what the original plan was that they are not doing. The original reason for this construction was to sort of have a workaround so that one could cross over Triangle Street from the north to the south. Now you have, they took away that light on the corner and you can't do that anymore without being in the roundabout, which for visually impaired people is impossible. So you can't cross the street there. So the reason that there was the original was to attach both ends of Prey Street, which is a right angle street to the other side so that people could walk without having to cross the roundabout. And what they had to take out because they don't own the land and because there was utility issues is the crosswalk that goes across Triangle Street at Prey Street. Which was an important part of the original concept and that's why they had money to put the good idea crosswalk from Garcia's to Kendrick Park. But what they did- Can you show that plan? Can Ben show the plan that Myra is talking about? Yes. Right, that would be here. Yep. So what they did is great. What they weren't able to do is still a big problem because there is no crosswalk to cross over Triangle Street at Prey Street and there is no way to cross in the roundabout. So if you're at the, like we're, what's it called, Primo too, if you're trying to go from there to downtown, you really can't cross very safely. And also that missing sidewalk is a big problem because if you're coming from the South and you make a right turn onto Triangle Street to go over to Cottage where you would want to cross, the sidewalk is missing and you have to go in the street. And it's not exactly a street that has no traffic on it. So I would hope that that would be something that they would fix pretty quickly because it's been that way for a long time but I thought it was all gonna get fixed as part of the redo of that intersection which now has had to be postponed because I guess they have to take some land. You could explain that, Chris, I guess. You have to take some land and there's some utility work. So it's gonna be an expensive thing but I just wanna make sure that the TAC knows about it because I hope you will advocate for it because it's an important way to cross over Triangle Street which at the moment, there isn't a good way to do. Thank you, Myra. Anyone else? I'm sorry, I can't see everybody. So I have a... Sure. So, okay. So one of the things I was interested in is, and Ben, if you could pull up the plan, I'd like to just, I'm gonna focus just on the crosswalk though I do agree with some of the concerns Myra's expressing. But Ben, can you go back to the plans that are showing the two ends of the proposed sidewalk and like them with the photo of where they're located? Yeah, okay. So when I was in that area recently, one thing that I was thinking about is, if you're on the Garcia side is that the parking, and I took some pictures of it too, but the parkers are parked pretty close up. To me, it seems like up towards the driveway or the private parking lot for Garcia's. And so one concern I had was just, sometimes when the cars are so parked, like I actually think, and the photo that you have on the upper right-hand side, it's showing a car parked and then the sign, but I actually think that there's a parking space that might be closer to the intersection. At least it seemed like there, I mean, maybe my perception's wrong, but just in terms of making sure that if pedestrians are going to be crossing right next to the entrance and exit for the private parking lot, that maybe that they're going to be aware of the pedestrians there too. And so it's not going to be a conflict with pedestrians. And so I guess, I mean, even though it's a private, that is a private lot. I mean, if there could be like a stop sign or something, I don't know how that works on private lots, but like to encourage at least cars who are exiting there to stop and just look both ways and make sure that there is no pedestrian conflicts there. I mean, the other thing I noticed is that, that also is very pretty close to the roundabout. I mean, not super close, but pretty close. And what I was noticing when I saw cars going through there, coming from the north is that basically once people clear the roundabout, they know their first impulse is to accelerate. They do. So I guess I would encourage too that that, I mean, this isn't under the purview of the tack, but if there could be a raised crosswalk or other ways to help calm the traffic, they're like the rapid rectangular flashing beacons or something that that could be a way to make sure that people are not going to be going too fast by the time they hit that crosswalk. And then my other question was on the park side, there are two places on the park side where there's already the curb cut is already like down to the street. And so do those line up with the crosswalk or, I mean, does one of them line up with the crosswalk or not? Unfortunately not, yeah. Okay. And then on the Garcia side, there's also a little like ramp up closer to the corner. Yeah. Over here. I think that's the kind of place. Mm-hmm. Okay. And what's, yeah, I wasn't sure what the function, what the function of that is, if you guys know. I'm not sure. Yeah, so I think on your site plan there, it would be looking up towards like to the north, north of the blue. Or above the rectangular. Okay, over here somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. Probably back from when it was a cow dealership. No, I mean, those are new because this is all like up to Triangle Street. It's all the new building and everything. But there's like sort of like a... Oh, I think I've noticed those. It might be for people who are a parallel park to get onto the sidewalk potentially. Okay. Yeah. All right. Okay. But other than that, I mean, I support the sidewalk there. I was just worried about the pedestrians. Yeah. Okay. Any other comments? Thank you, Tracy. That was useful. Yeah. I have a couple of comments on the question as well for Ben and Christine. So have you guys first of all, have you guys done any kind of traffic study done to see how often this crosswalk be used? The reason I'm asking is because like Tracy just mentioned, it is close to the roundabout which already has a crosswalk. And my concern is, will any people accelerating out of that into now the new crosswalk, the proposed crosswalk and B, if there is significant traffic that backs up because people are crossing, especially frequently, it's going to block the inside of that roundabout which defeats the purpose of the roundabout. So has there been any kind of study done as to how often this be used or any kind of site visits and observations? Thanks, Stefan. So I will say we've not considered the impact to the roundabout in terms of traffic flow and if that gets backed up necessarily. But my sense is just, from a logical standpoint, we're seeing a new hub of activity at the playground. And then on the other side of the street is public parking and restaurants and some other amenities and just kind of wanting to bridge that gap. So to my knowledge, we haven't done a formal study to, resulted in this crosswalk being created but it was just kind of, it was part of the Kendrick Park plan to develop the crosswalk in this location. And then also, yeah, just, I think the roundabout can be scary and to cross for some people just given that it's kind of three different islands almost, especially in the location where you have to cross East Pleasant Street. And so this crosswalk here could provide an opportunity to cross East Pleasant for folks who don't wanna cross at the roundabout as well. Yeah, and I think Myra made a very salient, I mean, it's kind of that is, it's further away from the crosswalk, which is from the roundabout which does scare people and it is not safe for certain people. So I think having one further away and closer to town makes sense. And I mean, certainly from observations that I get said, we've seen plenty of people, I have seen plenty of people jaywalking at that exact point. But not so many that it would back up traffic. No, no, no, no, no, no, but enough that it annoys me, but yeah, it's a one or two person please. Yes, right now, I have to say that Garcia's is the only public rest, sorry, non-public restroom around the playground. So when you have a five-year-old that needs to use the restroom, you have to run over there. Can I ask Ben to explain where the flashing lights would be on these different crossings? Yeah, thank you. The locations actually haven't been fully finalized at this point. I'm meeting with the town engineer next week to kind of go over the different options that the beacons have been ordered but we're still kind of figuring out the best locations but certainly this new crosswalk would be a strong consideration. Thank you. And so is there a possibility of raising them? Like what's involved with that? I, Guilford might be able to speak to it better but I remember talking to the town engineer at a very early stage when we were considering crosswalks in this location and up on triangle and just the, you have to be really careful with the drainage issues because this is, I think it is kind of a low-ish point in the road, it dips a little bit and water could be caught by the raised crosswalk was one issue that was raised but we could definitely look into it more. I'm trying to recall that. I mean, if not there, the other one. Yeah. We've already done the work. I mean, it just seems like the street in general could do with something to help that, yeah. Yeah, and even the earlier one, the one, well, the other on the other side. The one by the bank, yeah. Even that one, one of them. Yeah, there's no, it doesn't look like the drain in the road from, oh, there's one across the street from Prey, yeah, that might work. So Chris has a question or comment? Chris's hand is raised. I wanted to respond to Stefan and his questioning of this crosswalk in this location. So, you know, we had originally included the crosswalks on Triangle Street as part of this project and that's what we used to write the grant proposal and get money from the state. But when it turned out that that didn't work out, Guilford and Jason Skeels, the town engineer came up with this location as an alternative. And I think it made sense because there's a clear path coming across Kendrick Park at that point. And it just sort of dumps you out on the sidewalk on the Kendrick Park side of East Pleasant Street. So then the natural movement would be to move across the street. So Guilford might have some more thoughts about why this is a good location, but I wanted to bring that point to your attention that it was the DPW who really proposed this. Thanks, Christiana. No, I appreciate that. And the other thing I just want to mention, maybe Chrisy can also just, while I have you, maybe you can also speak to this if there's been any kind of anyone else mentioning this. But in this top photo on the right here where it's facing Garcia's, you see that gray car on the far left, their park. Obviously the cross looks going to go like right in the middle of this photo where, you know, where the photo is taken. The only thing I've noticed from personal experiences, a lot of people, because obviously there's that residential building that are 57 East Pleasant Street, the Kendrick building. A lot of people double park here for, I've seen the same car parked there when I come through, when I come back an hour later to still park there. So a lot of double parking, which I know is not much that we can do about as a town, I mean, you can enforce it, but only to a certain extent and so often. But my concern is that if people are double parking here and you put a crosswalk right in the middle of this top photo, it's going to, I think, and maybe Tracy had spoke about this, but I'm concerned about people coming out of the roundabout heading into town and this creating a blind spot with the cars parked there. So either deleting, you know, I don't know what the feasibility that is, but deleting a parking spot here, like where that gray car is to gain more, a lot better vantage point from drivers coming out of the roundabout. Or moving the crosswalk, you know, more, I'm trying to think more in a more southerly direction towards town, which I know is probably not ideal because you are trying to hook it up with this new paved walkway coming out of the park in the bottom photo. So I get that idea, but I'm just concerned if we leave that parking spot there where that gray car is and there's people double parking, whether it's food delivery. And I know a lot of students live there. So especially around move in time, you know, first week, last week of August, first week of September, and then, you know, move out in May. Obviously those are very temporary periods, but throughout the years, a lot of cars they've seen double parked here often. So again, it can be for a few minutes, it can be, I've seen like it's to the same car I come back around an hour later, it's still there with its flashers on or not. And blocking the bike lane or even just parked not in a spot like right against the exit of Garcia is there right against the curb. So I don't know, that's just something I'm concerned about as a car coming out not seeing a kid or someone who's maybe they're also not paying attention, crossing and, you know, you have a unfortunate situation. Yeah, I mean, that's a good point, especially, but if you're coming down from the roundabout, I mean, it's on the other side of the street, right? So you do have the widest view. And if we've got the, that is that going to be mitigated enough with the rapid flight flashing beacons? Would that be sufficient? That hasn't been determined yet, but I mean, I think those are good questions. And Christine has her hand up. Christy? I think I just wanted to raise that not only do I experience people crossing there already, but, you know, with strollers and kids on bikes and, you know, with training wheels and the whole nine yards. So I guess I would just advocate the flashing lights, it would be great if they went there too, just to slow everybody down and let folks get across with the equipment, you know, that comes with bringing small children to and from a playground as well. So I just wanted to add that piece. I'm not sure it needs to be raised, although I like the idea, but I think the flashing lights, I think it's a great spot to consider flashing lights. Thank you. So I have a question just, so Stefan raised a question about the cars and double parking. And then I had asked about the idea of having a stop sign when people are exiting the private parking lot. But I mean, does it seem, I mean, speak from the town staff if you are willing to comment at this time on these, like are those things that seem like they could be feasible or so, I mean, just kind of throwing it out there. So I mean, I realize they might need, they might both need like further study and I don't know, I mean, I think I've seen other private parking lots that have stop signs as you're entering the roadway, but I don't know how those are put up or who's responsible for those or any of those details. I think it's particularly relevant if you're installing a new like use, hopefully widely used crosswalk right in front of, right to the side of their parking lot. That makes sense. I mean, is it just because of the crosswalk or should it also be the fact that there's a heavily used footpath right in front of the parking lot as well? I mean, there is a sidewalk there already. Right, exactly. And to me, yeah, that's true too. That's a good point. It was also just about like the potential with it, like if there's any blind spots for the drivers, particularly as Stefan said, if there's any cars parked there. And as Christine was just talking about small children and tricycles and all that, right? We just wanna make sure that it's safe. And so I would feel more comfortable if those types of measures were taken there, including perhaps like losing a parking space and adding the stop sign. Delphur, what do you think? We don't dictate, we at the Public Works Department don't dictate stop signs on private property. Usually when it goes through site plan review, that's when they're usually put in. Because if you, I mean, your manual, your driver's manual, which we all read back when we were like two and we don't remember. We're supposed to stop at sidewalks and we're leaving a parking lot or a driveway and then we're supposed to proceed through. So they're not normally put at places like that unless the site plan review decides it's something that should be done. And when is that site plan like gone? Like at what stage? Is it if there's like a new building going in or is it like, I don't understand that, I'm sorry. I mean, it's usually it's pretty early on the process, right? It's like when Garcia's came in and said, this is what we're proposing for the site or. But this is an addition to, I mean, all this has changed since Garcia's went in, right? Christine. Yeah, we're well past that process, right? I mean, that's long gone. So this was originally Bertucci's and before that it was a car dealership. But when it was Bertucci's for a long time, there was a parking lot there and they did go through some sort of permit process with either this new board of appeals or excuse me, the planning board, I don't remember which, but that wasn't considered at the time. But there also wasn't a playground there. Right, so going back in time, it's hard to put these things in going back in time. So Garcia's has already been permitted. I suppose there's an opportunity to ask the proprietor of Garcia's if he would be willing to put in a stop sign there. But, you know, it wasn't it wasn't thought of at the time that he went through the permitting process. I now understood. And what about this idea about, again, I mean, if staff could maybe check about where the parking, the on street parking spaces end just to make sure that there's some good sight lines there and that the sight lines aren't being locked. I mean, to Stefan's point about people dubbing parking, I think that, I mean, I would hope that if there's a crosswalk there, particularly say one with, you know, flashing lights and so on, that people would not double park in a crosswalk. I mean, as much as I see people double parking, for the most part, I don't see. I see people stay off across walks. I don't know. Maybe I'm just optimistic about. Yeah, at the same time, I mean, why are we trying to remove a parking spot for illegal activity? I mean, shouldn't we as part of the rollout of the crosswalk, shouldn't the police and the parking be focusing on that point anyway? I mean, should we be it? Should we be making accommodations for illegal activity? It's just my question. The day that I was there, there wasn't anybody double parked and I was still just concerned about the sight lines with the cars exiting the parking lot. So I mean, my request, my request would just be that staff looks at it and if it's appropriate, that maybe one space could be removed or something. But yeah, but I'm sorry. I agree with Stefan. I mean, I've seen plenty of people double parked out there as well. And so, you know, for who knows what reasons? I mean, these are, you know, essentially teenagers doing this. So who knows what is in their head? I had to set a question. I would think it wouldn't there be a state regulation as to how close parking is allowed to a crosswalk? I would think that would already be in some sort of a code. Do you know Chris or Ben? I don't offhand. I think that there are some best practices. There are some best practices on it, but. I haven't seen it. Can we get back to the I mean, what would there's already a parking space there? What would be the effort in building out the the curb to create? That's probably not within the scope of this grant. So we have a grant for one hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. Yeah, so just take too much, you know, Christine, could a little bit of the grant be diverted to entice Garcia's to, you know, batch how, you know, the thousand I imagine it's probably at least a thousand dollars to if not a little bit more to put a stop sign there in terms of breaking up the concrete and whatever. And, you know, then I'm would they have to go back through a planning process to do that, you know, I'm just wondering if there's a way that they could be enticed into, you know, sort of the bureaucratic nature and then the actual like work nature of what it would take. There's this stuff called paint. Which could be used and maybe Garcia's would be willing to do that. Or maybe we could just do that. The town could just do that for them. Like a big stop on the ground. Stop, you know, some some paint across in front of the stop in the crosswalk, saying stop, you know, stop ahead or something. You know, because you want to you want to attract the attention of somebody who's maybe a little careless, but for folks who don't care, who genuinely don't care, or are those people who are perpetually in a hurry because they're important. And they think they're important. They're going to blow through there anyway, regardless of what signage is there or whatever. So rather than I mean, the point's been made. You know, I had my hand up for a while, but folks made plenty of repeated plenty of what I was going to say. We're set at first. I like the idea of the crosswalk there. I would prefer to have the crosswalk raised. I have concerns about speed through that area. Stuff like that can be handled by dropping the speed limit and by talking to the police about being more aggressive or the parking enforcement being more aggressive about going after folks who are double parking in that area, if it's a concern. But the point I think is points been made. Everybody's written it down that there's concerns about having a crosswalk there and people coming out of the parking lot, people double parking. It looks like the sidewalk across the parking area is asphalt. Could that one strip that would represent the sidewalk be painted red? So as it crosses, the Garcia's country. I mean, that's a simple and expensive solution and it is visual. It would also match the color of the crosswalk across. Yeah, that's a great idea. So kind of just highlights, highlights that it's a crossing. And I think, yeah, I think people would see them when they stop. So, I mean, we have the, you know, the planning director here and Ben here and they were asking for a recommendation from TAC about the crosswalk and so, I mean, do we want to make a motion? It seems I'm not hearing anybody who is opposing a crosswalk in this general location. We're just asking a couple of additional questions. Yeah. Do people feel ready to maybe propose I do let them go on with their days? Yeah, I would propose that we accept the plan as as provided by the town planning department. I would recommend adding this. If it's possible to make it raised. Oh, yes. Yes. And then I would say, yeah, I moved to accept the the plan as presented by the town planning department with the additional sorry, the additional with with modifications to potentially consider raising the crosswalk positioning of the rapid flashing beacons and positioning of traffic, additional traffic calming measures around the crosswalk. And and if possible, painting the sidewalk in front of the Garcia parking lot red. Yes, sorry, that was what I was thinking about in terms of additional traffic calming. Yeah. Do we also want to mention another streetlight if that's possible on the Garcia side? That's actually. I don't know that that's that's not within the budget. So that is some other budget. OK, I mean, it seems like I walk in that area quite a bit. It seems like that area is pretty well lit. But there there is there is. Sorry, I'm just looking at street view and there's there's a few around, but not right right at that point. Everything you recommended to add is not in the budget. So adding a streetlight to our own budgets. OK. Well, some red paint go for it. Can I be the budget on the budget? I think we recommended that we consider it, right? Yeah, right. Well, we could just I mean, maybe we want our motion just to say something like we encourage any additional traffic. Yes, actually, that that's feasible. Yes, yes. Red paint on the cross, you know, the crossing and. OK, and the rectangular flak she begins. Go ahead. Who would like to make this motion clearly? Marcus, I can I can try. Yes. I would move. Sorry, I move that the attack, except the plan. For the crosswalk across for the crosswalks presented by the town planning department and encourage the inclusion of additional traffic calming measures. That include, but not limited to. Raising the crosswalk painting. Oh, flashing beacons. I was good. That was going to be after this one. But yeah, OK, flashing beacons painting the crosswalk. Sorry, not crosswalk. Sorry, painting sidewalk. Along the Garcia's parking lot entrance. And potential addition of street lighting. In the in the immediate vicinity. Of the crosswalk. OK, thank you. So I would second. Great, thank you, all those in favor. But I guess I'm concerned that we've added, as Guilford said, like these things are in the budget, but we encourage. We're not we're not requiring. Yes, no, and especially even the raised crosswalk piece. You know, I mean, so. Yes, when some of those things could be done, perhaps in the future. Yes, it's perhaps. And also, I think once the crosswalks and you could evaluate it, I mean, I guess in the list of additional things we'd like to see, I would put the, you know, the rectangular rapid flashing beacons first and the red paint first because those seem, I mean, we're not really in charge of either of those. But we can just say that we would support them and we think they're a good idea. And the other elements, like the lighting and the raised crosswalk, those are outside the budget, but, you know, perhaps, you know, well, I mean, everything that and I'd really like to see them. Well, the rectangular flap, I mean, they're going to be some in the area. So one could be designated for that spot. Yeah, if we want to reorder the list, that's totally. You know, just so sort of the main point doesn't get lost. Like we're just asking for. And I mean, we can even acknowledge in our resolution that we understand, you know, they're not, even though they're not in the budget, we'd like the latter items that we'd like consideration of them or something. So do we need to redo the thing or are we good? Yeah, I think so. I think we must. We should, for Amber. So let's redo the motion. Third time's a challenge. Yes. Well, Marcus has the legal, you know, he has the language down. Chris, did you have anything to add before we proceed with writing the motion? No, I don't. My husband just turned the microwave on and I was afraid. Oh, OK, we're going to get this motion done. And well, I mean, the priority says RRFBs, which are in the budget, painting the sidewalk at the parking lot entrance, if possible, potentially adding a streetlight as a third one. And the fourth one would be raising the crosswalk. Yeah, that sounds good. Yes. Thank you. Great. So that's the motion. Second. Second. OK, all those in favor. And it looks like it's unanimous. Yeah. OK. So thank you. All seven of us. Yeah, thank you for planning for bringing this to us. You thank you. Thank you, Ben. Thank you, Ben. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, thank you. I'll take care of you. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go for the rest of the meeting. OK, I am. How do I get out of here? I'm sharing my screen and you're not allowed to get out of here. That's the idea. You're stuck forever. Yeah, I'm still sharing my screen, right? You could you should. Yeah, there you go. Stop. If you just leave, it'll go off. OK, there we go. OK. OK, now I'm going to hit everybody. OK, thank you, Ben. Bye. OK, excellent. So the next item on the agenda is an update on North Pleasant Street improvements. Yeah, hi, Kim, before we go to that, I see that Myra has her hand raised. I am so sorry because I cannot see the hand raising. I think maybe because I was not originally a panel member. I apologize. Oh, no problem. This is real interesting. I just. Sorry, Myra. Go ahead. Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah. I just want to also mention that we do have an attendee. My council member is an attendee now. So. Oh, thank you. We have one. Yeah, on a Devlin got there. Oh, cool. Hi, Anna. OK, so I just the thing that I brought up was not on your agenda, but it actually was the original proposal for the grant, which I helped write. And I am I'm just hopeful that at some point the TAC can take up the notion of how to cross Triangle Street because it is an issue. And I just want to make sure that it's in your consciousness. It was in the grant. I don't know what's going to be involved in getting it on the on the plate again. But I'm I'm very interested in making sure that it's in your awareness. That's all. Thank you. Perfect. I agree. Yeah, it is difficult street to cross. And so are we ready for our next agenda item? The update on North Pleasant Street improvements. Um, yeah, I defer to the DPW on that if Gilford wants to give us an update or if you'd rather hold to a future meeting. So it's going to the TSO sometime, I think it's the sometime in the future is going to the TSO update. So so you're not ready to discuss with us then. Thank you. Well, yeah, I mean, it came to the DAC a couple of meetings ago. And so, um, but that's fine. We can get it back from TSO. Thanks. And our next agenda item is looking at upcoming items and potential referrals from the TSO. Do you have an update on that, Tracy? Or? So unfortunately, our TSO TSO leads on to the TAC. Um, Andy Steinberg has left our meeting, perhaps because the TSO is meeting at 7 p.m. tonight. So I haven't heard any direct referrals from TSO yet. Now, the Council member in attendance is on TSO as well. But I haven't heard any. They have talked about that there could be something with the proposal had been around for a while about considering lowering the speed limits all over town, like universally. And I know that the TSO has that on their potential plate. It's not clear when that will come back. So we'll be waiting to hear from TSO on that. And and Anna now has her hand raised. So if we want to let her in the room to speak or just open her mic. Perhaps she can do it. He's in the room already. She's in the room as an attendee. Oh, she can talk. OK, great. I could talk. So the one thing that I do think might be helpful to have on your radar. TSO is meeting at 7. And one of the things we are discussing is a referral from CRC to look into closing North Pleasant Street for dining in the summer. There's no specific proposal on that. But just that is on our agenda tonight to discuss. So I am sure that we will be looking to you to weigh in on that. And I apologize. I just pulled over. I'm in my car, so I don't have the agenda up in front of me. But if there are other things, I'm sure Andy will keep you posted. But that's that one. Thank you. So would that be the whole present? Yeah, I just had a quick question on that. Which section of North Pleasant Street would that be? Literally, the referral said the potential of closing. We have it's super broad right now. I think that that's where we're having the initial discussion and we might have more ideas. But there is no plan right now. It was the idea and we are now discussing what that means. So does that just mean the repositioning of the Jersey barriers to their original positions or removing the parking? Or are we actually going to put a barrier across the whole of North Pleasant Street? And I doubt we'll do that because there's a fire station. But we we don't know yet. I I it's truly it was a really vague thing that came forward. Just saying, hey, this was nice last summer. Can we do something similar this summer? Yes, I'm guessing I'm guessing it's the Jersey barriers. But I believe one person was like, well, let's close the whole thing. So that's why the proposal was worded that way. But I I don't I don't see how we could close North Pleasant Street, given that there's a fire station. I mean, but also, I mean, if we're going to do that with North Pleasant, why why wouldn't we do it with South Pleasant, too? Yeah, so yeah, I mean, if anyone wants to come to TSO, we made it seven. It's sure to be a thrilling time. But otherwise, I'm sure Andy will update you on on what comes out of our initial discussion. And of course, you all will be very much in the loop if if we do decide to go forward with any sort of plan. Right. OK, thank you. And Myra, you have your hand raised. Oh, yeah, I was trying to raise it before the other item went away about North Pleasant Street. I was just going to ask whether the Kendrick Park, I assume that that North Pleasant Street was by Kendrick Park to determine where the sidewalk is. Is that what the discussion is that you're not going to have? Was that question for me, Myra? For Anna or for I know, I guess, Guilford said it was going to the TSO. And so you didn't discuss it tonight. And I wanted to know if that's what it referred to. All right, Myra, go ahead. Nope, you got it. I think that my perception of it, Myra, was that I just because you had had the discussion with the person from DPW, he was designing that segment of North Pleasant Street next to the park. And yeah, that was my my perception was that we would get an update on that. Just that whole section. And but Guilford, we're going to wait until it comes back from TSO, I guess, so that's fine. So it goes to them and then it goes to you. OK, I didn't know that, but there were two plans. One of them was a good plan and one of them wasn't. So I wanted to know that you knew about that. We chose the plan. And I know you. I got my other thing with it's not hard to get me to laugh. Guilford, the other thing was that the other. Yeah, thanks, Myra. The other question I had about that section North Pleasant Street is just that issue that we had raised to TSO about the parking, the permit parking on the west side of the street. And whether that's going to be, you know, whether the parking can be moved to the park side of the street. You know, even if the whole project for improving North Pleasant Street isn't proceeding this summer. And whether, for example, like as a traffic calming measure, the traffic could be changed to one way with the parking and so on, even if the whole thing isn't proceeding. We didn't talk about this at the last meeting. And I was pretty I had been surprised at the last meeting that the improvements for that segment of North Pleasant Street weren't making it into the work plan for this year, though. I understand some of that is because of the budget and also that the DPW is so busy with so many other items. But in thinking about it more, just that as people have been saying, the park is used a lot right now, like every time I go by there, there are so many people there and just if there's a way to provide safer parking on the park side of the park, even in the absence of the bigger project with the sidewalk and to remove the parking, the permit parking on the west side of the street and also to, you know, as you do those things and you also make it a one way street to just start to get people thinking about how we want traffic calming in this area, that the park is right there. You know, the bigger project will move forward at a later date when there is the funding for that and it can be on the work plan. But even in the absence of that, just to start to realize like this is a street where we're going to promote the park and park parking and so on. So thanks. I mean, I don't we can talk about that as a tack if we wanted. I had suggested it just in some conversations just outside of the tack just because I've been really trying to brainstorm about what what's feasible for this year. I mean, Guilford, do you think it would be feasible to do anything on that section of North Pleasant Street this year? Would the whole thing need to wait? It's just a money. It's just a money issue. So if there's money left over, we can start towards the end of this into the summer, but other than that, we won't start to like. But like, for example, like it would like, is there money involved? Like if the street is going to become a one way street, for example, or or even to just switch the parking from one side to the other side? Like, is that is that an expensive item? Or is that something that we just need to delay all the everything? A North Pleasant Street. They can when the TSO gets it, if they want to recommend making it. If you want to make it recommend making it one way immediately, that's pretty easy. It's just a matter of enforcing it. Moving the parking spaces over if you want to move those over. There's just a bunch of little signs that would change sides of the street. I feel like that's it's it's important and especially for the site, the site lines and, you know, kind of getting getting people used to the one way mess of that street. And there is there are serious. I don't I've forgotten when exactly this was. I guess I was coming in to UMass the other day on my bike and maybe it was like later in the afternoon. It must have been. Yeah, it was around four o'clock. It was yesterday and I was surprised at how many people were trying to exit UMass and using and getting really frustrated because maybe that they had to wait a moment because the roundabout was a little bit backed up and just came charging down North Pleasant Street instead as a bypass to get into town. And, you know, I think that is super dangerous doing that, especially if there are children at the park and people just aren't paying attention. So I think Tracy, I think this is an item that is worth suggesting to the TSO for the season, especially since we haven't had a spring, right? The park went in at the end of the summer last year, right? So and even or even later, really, no, right? Yeah. And so I have concerns about about that stretch, especially, yeah. And if parking could be on the parkside, I mean, I just see so many families there already. So yeah. So maybe that's something we can formalize and send our suggestion for the TSO. I think so. It sounds like, Kim, what I've heard and what Guilford's saying is that TSO will be reviewing the proposal for that section of North Pleasant Street. And, you know, they could refer stuff back to us and we could make a statement at the time. So I feel like, you know, we can move along with this and encourage it at the right time. So thanks. OK. So moving along, we have 15 minutes until TSO starts and we do try to end on time. I'm not sure if there are other items, but perhaps we can work on status of our TAC memo to their council. Yeah. So I'm not sure exactly. So we had done that, you know, overall memo just high. We're TAC and we're an advisory committee. And I mean, part of it was just I mean, I still hear some misconceptions and people who aren't really sure what TAC is about. It was just a short three page memo. Andy Steinberg did mention it at one of the council meetings. And so so after our last meeting, you know, based on people's feedback, I finalized it and I sent it forward. I did send it to the council president and just, you know, to ask, you know, we're not asking for any action. We just wanted to provide this informational material. You know, where could it kind of fit? Like, where can it go? I didn't hear back. And I also reached out to the chair of TSO. I mean, for me, it was mainly informational. We could perhaps make an a presentation before TSO or perhaps the council, though the council's agendas are packed at some time. So I'm still like sort of waiting to see what will happen with that. But we'll keep working on that. So likely, yeah, I think I don't have any other updates. Yeah. I mean, the TSO agenda, they've been pretty full right now with the parking permit stuff. And it sounds, you know, they're getting a lot of other items, including some that are very timely that have been referred to them, that they haven't taken action on yet, like the lunch carts and things like that. So I can circle back and talk to the TSO chair about that. That would be great. I think then go ahead to the TSO. I mean, it seems like that's the most relevant place for that memo to land. Sure. Yeah. So I just put on the agenda just as upcoming meeting dates for April. We had talked about, you know, we typically meet on the first and the third Thursdays of the month, but then the third Thursday is during the April vacation break for kids. So we talked about instead moving it, you know, to the fourth Thursday. I sent out an email on that as well as with the March schedule. And I'm sorry, Bruce, that there was some confusion about that. We weren't meeting on the third Thursday of March. And we were meeting on the fourth or whatever. But I mean, is that OK? Can we just firm up that we'd like to do our meetings then April 7th and April 28th? Did anybody have major conflicts with that? No, that works perfectly for me. I'll be in the game. All right. And right. And Marcus had said he wasn't available. So OK. So why don't we get those on the go ahead, Bruce? I just can say I won't be available on the 28th, but it seems like you have enough for a quorum. Yes. I mean, now we have our additional members. Thank you. And we can get quorum easier. So thanks. I will not be at the April 7th meeting either. Oh, OK. Thank you guys for letting me know that. But again, I think is that but it's OK because we have the quorum. So thanks. OK. Thank you. And then just announcements, committee comments. I mean, I do have a few different announcements, but. If anybody else has any, we can go to those first. Go ahead, Tracy. OK. So let's see. So I had on my list. Well, one of the things was that one of the reasons that Myra was attending our meeting earlier is that I did go to the last DC meeting, which was held a few weeks ago. I had been having informal conversation with the DAC for a while just about us being more in touch with them and them with us. I mean, sometimes there's things that are referred to one of us, not the other, but like they're of interest to both of us. So what we agreed to do is that Myra would receive our agendas and that I would receive the AC's agenda and we could have a little bit more collaboration. I mean, some of that dates back to back almost like two decades ago. And I remember the old the committee way before our before attack, like the public transportation and bike committee that at those meetings, we really did. We had people from the senior center and people from UMass and UMass transit. We had a lot of participation in five college Inc. and stuff. And it's useful to know what each other's doing and stuff. So I think that that should be good. One issue I talked with them about maybe trying to work on is just some of the issues relating to sidewalk and snow clearance and things like that. Sort of some bigger picture stuff. There was a presentation from Walk Boston on those issues the other day. And unfortunately, I wasn't able to turn the presentation. I've asked them for a copy of their slide deck. But, you know, there are issues all over the state in terms of having sidewalks cleared in a timely manner and how that can be addressed. Let's see, so a couple other updates. So the town manager, you know, every time there's a town council meeting, there was one this week. And the town manager always has some great updates in his reports. I really do encourage people to read them if they have time. I mean, a few things I saw in the town manager's report from this week that might be of interest is one, he was talking about that there were a lot of potholes that were created this winter with the freeze and thaw cycles and I think the DPW is already starting to work on that. You know, if Guilford had anything to add with that. Also North Hampton Road, which is in my neighborhood, that they are doing construction now on North Hampton Road from University Drive up to the center town. I mean, that project's gonna take a few years. And they put in fences to protect the vegetation. You know, the project at the end will have bike lanes and sidewalks or pedestrian paths on both sides and so on. But it's great to see that that work is finally underway. I'm also with right on the south end, I mean, the west end of that, with the University Drive south project and Snell Street that there is gonna be that little mini roundabout going in there and the developer for the project is doing that little mini roundabout themselves. And then one other update was and the planning department might know more about this is just that there was the Parklets Grant from the state about creating two ADA accessible Parklets in downtown Amherst, which would be take over a few parking spaces that you'd have an adjacent sidewalk. So that seems pretty exciting to me. Let's see a couple of other things. So one question I did have, I mean, this is sort of an announcement or a question, is just in terms of the crosswalk policy, if the council is gonna be considering the crosswalks, we had earlier, a few months ago, we had finalized the tax version of the crosswalk policy which had been sitting around for a few years. And so I know that Gilford that you sent that to the town manager, but perhaps it would be a timely thing for the, I mean, do you have any updates on that? But it seems like if the council and the TSO are gonna be considering crosswalks, then maybe that could be a good time to share the tax recommendation about crosswalk design. But Gilford, have you heard any updates on that? It's actually going to the town manager we talked about this week and he's gonna take it to the, he's gonna talk about whether it goes to the council, whether it goes to TSO first and we'll see what happens. The council may get it and just say, yeah, we love it. We're just approving it, which is what the council can do. So. Okay, great. All right, thank you. That's great news. Okay. And let's see, I didn't really, I would like to just as a committee, we had talked about in the fall and just get back to the whole North Pleasant Street, North of campus, we had did the two different sidewalks there. I know that TSO will eventually be taking that up too, once our agenda gets a little lighter. So I am gonna write up our notes from that earlier period, but if anybody wanted to help me, that'd be great. And I'm Christine and Stephanie weren't on the committee at that time, but you had both really had helpful comments last time and Christine, that's your neighborhood. So I'd love to like circulate, you know, what we had done and I've been meaning to send you both I'm like copies of the, if I still have them like copies of the plans that Wilford had shared with us as we were doing the sidewalks, so you can take a look. So. Thanks. Really. And I was also seed on, somebody asked me if I sent this to all of TAC, it didn't really seem like I needed to, but there's this organization that's meeting, I can source you with people on regional transit access. They had met before and they started meeting again. And if people are interested, let me know and I can forward the emails to you. I don't really have the bandwidth to be thinking about that right now, but I am of course interested in regional transit access overall. And it's not really in our purview, but with some of the issues that have happened lately on the UMass campus with pedestrian safety, I was told that there is an upcoming meeting on April 4th where UMass is having a meeting about crosswalk safety that it came up at the town meeting between the town and UMass, okay? I don't know any details about that meeting. I don't know if it's a public meeting. I hope it would be a public meeting. I don't know, Guilford or Chris, have you heard anything about that? I haven't. No, okay, so we'll see. But the good news in terms of the UMass pedestrian safety is that that section along Mass Ave where the sidewalk had been closed and the pedestrian was hit on a dark and rainy night in the area of the closed sidewalk and killed, yes, that there is now a pedestrian walkway there. So, and UMass has really been paying a lot of attention to the safety in that area. So it's a little shocking that there was also that incident recently. But that whole intersection was really, that whole thing was very poorly planned out. It's very shoddily designed and I'm appalled and that UMass let that happen because just to take out the whole sidewalk there and not provide a reasonable access across that street otherwise, it's appalling. And I'm not, it's not even clear why they even had to shut down all Blinken. There's something wrong with that whole planning. I also had a concern and maybe I heard from a, someone who drives ambulances in town that it's very, they've had issues on route nine, getting emergency vehicles through the, I haven't been on route nine at all. I have no idea what's going on, but they said that there were cones, this was Hadley, but there are cones in the street and that made the lanes way too narrow on route nine for their emergency vehicle and they just have to choose which cones they're gonna take out when they head over to Northampton to the hospital. So I'm hoping that we don't have that same, those same kind of issues on our end of the route nine project. So I do have a related comment to that and I realized that the route nine project, I'm thinking about the section that is an Amherst, the one from the center of town to University Drive. But one thing that people have mentioned to me is that, I mean, there are these traffic barrels that are on both sides of the street all the way along that corridor and that it's blocking where some people on sort of like the shoulder or some people bike there. And that is a pretty heavy bike corridor from the center street to down, I mean, to University Drive, including people using valley bikes, like who would get the valley bikes up at town hall or other places and just go down the hill to go to big Y or whatever. I would hope that long-term that the, I mean that if people are using that, for biking that the barrels don't have to be like right on the shoulder. I don't know, Gilford or somebody, Chris, if there's any, no, I mean, there's pedestrian, there's a sidewalk on the north side of the street but I'm talking about people in the road, like biking and the fact that like that sort of shoulder area, it's not very clear right now because of the winter and there's like a lot of gravel and stuff there but some people would feel more comfortable if that area was clear and it didn't have the traffic barrels there too. But they should think about going on another route. Yeah. I mean, right now it's the passable it will be. And from this point forward it's going to become less passable as you go along until it's completed. Right, but also, you know, the emergency vehicle thing really is a concern. Absolutely, but the current situation isn't happy, right? Well, and I noticed too, I mean this is a little bit related but just that there is like the construction is underway with the new residential housing, the new affordable housing that's going in right next to the Amherst College track. I think it's like 132 North Hampton Road. And so, you know, there's some construction stuff with that too, like impacting at the road, but okay. Well, I feel like we've used our time extremely well all the time. So thank you to everyone. Thank you. Do you have something to add? Well, I move that we adjourn. Yes. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you everyone. Thank you everybody. Thank you Chris, Gilford. Thank you. See you next time. Bye. Have a good night. Night, Bruce. Thanks, Troy.