 That's kind of self-explanatory, but it's like the kiss method. Keep it simple stupid, right? It's like the economy of effort. Usually the, usually the best solution is the simplest solution in many domains of life. So think of the senses, right? The sense of sight, it has to do with what you wear, your style, your fashion, your physique. You know, in addition to your attire, it's your physique, it's your build. It's your posture, it's your expressions, facial expressions, body expressions, how you carry yourself. So we kind of iron that stuff out. And the most important aspect of the of the sight sense is eye contact. So it's simple little things like don't be the first to break eye contact. Know how to seductively gaze, right? Know how to have this look where it's like it's kind of like lowered eyelids and a little bit of a smirk. Where it's like I like you. It's 50% this. It's like 50% full on. I'm attracted to you. You're sexy. I really like you, right? It's 50% like I'm not sure about you. There's some, I don't know. This is, it's push-pull in a look. So it's eye contact. It's eye gazing. Sound is your voice. It's talking, speaking, as well as listening and hearing. So it's the volume, the resonance, the projection, the tonality, the inflection. All these like micro elements of your voice, right? And it's also listening. Listening, Trump's talking. It's becoming a seductive listener. Talking is qualifying. Listening is screening. I'm speaking here like think of any audience. You know, you screen a movie. You screen, you screen me like as a presenter, right? Like, well, I'm going to listen to what he says. I'm going to take it in and decide, you know, what resonates with me, what doesn't, what I should take in the field, what I'm not. But yeah, I believe that. I'm qualifying you. I'm presenting myself. Man, I hope you like this. I hope this affects you and touches you and resonates with you in deep ways. You guys, you just, you got the passive job. You sit back and screen. So to create a social dynamic and a seductive dynamic, more importantly, you're the one that's doing most of the listening. You think that might be important? It is. It's sexy, right? And touch. Touch is what we call in the community, keynote. And most guys, they, they either never touch or they do it in a really awkward way. So to be comfortable with your touch, to become more effective, to know how to arouse her through touch, to, you know, create show bumps, to create that sense of, touch is just so awesome, man. There's so many nerve endings and so many hair follicles, so much stimulation. And it's not like you have to go for these erogenous zones, but you know, it's like, it's like showing comfort with yourself, comfort as the kind of guy that can touch a woman he's just met, comfort with a woman's body. This is not new terrain for you. This is like, okay, I've been here. Showing dominance through touch, showing playfulness through touch, showing courage and humility through touch, push, pull, all this really awesome dynamic stuff through touch. And then to relate it, remember, think of it this way, the site's going to come first. They're in this order for a reason. You're going to make eye contact. You're going to appraise each other very quickly with your attire and your style and your physique and your posture and all this stuff. And then eye contact. Site comes first. Sound typically comes next. And this can all happen in a second, right? When you do the approach, there's the eye contact. Hey, I had to come and then your hand might already be on her waist. Or what do we do? Why do we, why do we shake hands with everyone, right? This is why touch is so important because we're re-eating so much from the other person. It's like, hey, you look interesting. I had to come say hi. I'm Jason. Site, sound touch like that. To put the fourth sense on there, sense of smell is getting closer. Vince said something similar that I say, you know, you smell really good. Something smells really good. Ah, you're too sexy, like push, pull, right? But yeah, you like close that proximity, get closer. Like this, this is seduction. The rest of society melts away. The rest of the environment disappears. The friends you came with or didn't, the friends she came with or didn't, do not matter. It's all in that look. It's in that sharing of the verbal dimension and it's in the touch more than anything. It's the look in the touch. These are the moments of surrender. The first look, the first touch, the first kiss. Kiss, you can call the fifth sense. You're tasting and it's pretty much always going to be in this order. It's super duper simple in writing, right? But then to become effective and comfortable with it. And not comfortable in the sense that you're complacent, but comfortable in the sense that you know yourself and trust yourself and value yourself. You know how to take a woman through this process. It takes practice and it takes often feedback from someone who's been there, someone who has that kind of experience. Okay, that's pretty much it, man. How do we look on time? Look at this. Couple additional qualities that I like, that I value about myself at least, curiosity. This is a quote from Einstein. I have no special talents. I'm only passionately curious. That's like me as a little kid. Creativity. The world has been a canvas to the imagination. That's probably like the kid I would have someday. Courage. If you don't take a chance, you don't stand a chance. That's a student from my last boot camp. In the field, always remember this. The field is where theory meets practice. This is that, it's the social aspect. It's the opportunity and exposure aspect. It's the numbers game. You've got to get yourself out there where theory meets practice. You can join me in field. There's my number again. Like I said, I'm going to be here a while. I really want to take guys out tonight and tomorrow on the next day. Yes. For now only in Sweden. I'm touring with Jonathan here and we want to hit up Prague and Berlin and Amsterdam, wherever you guys are from. I got a book, the same one that I put these notes in. Make sure I get your contact information, especially if you're from Holland. You're what? You give me a call. You're from Holland. Yeah, dude, I'm definitely coming there. Yeah, I'm definitely coming there. Just make sure you don't leave without exchanging contact information. Yes. Look through my notes for this one though. Yeah, first question was you're saying like your desire, your arousal, your desire. Since that what you would say is your way of seeing how the process goes of guy meeting girl, simply said. That is my simple way of describing the process of natural human sexuality. Okay, yeah. And second question, I think I have to come back at it because I can find it. I think someone just texted me. Yeah. Second question, I have to come back at it because I can't find it. Okay. Like these trump cards, man, like this is the essence of what I do, what I teach and what I've done for years. Realizing like how, how one, because it's one thing to say, you know, this is social versus being seductive. This is arousal versus desire. It's another thing to say, look, I have tons of field experience. I've been with hundreds of women. And to say, this is what I've found to be true. This is a little bit more important than that. And to take that kind of stance to have that kind of certainty. It's powerful. Like all, like, look, I have these little ones that I'm always throwing around, right? Like massage, Trump's dance, right? But these are the five core ones. And the second question was when you were talking about touching. I'm not sure, but I kind of get the vibe that you became better at it. And my question was, how did you become so comfortable with touching women as you are today, as opposed to, I don't know, 10 years ago or when I just started? That's a good question. The second part was, how did I become so comfortable with touch specifically? And what was the first part? If you remember? Oh, no, the first part was just that I got the feeling that you improved it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Trial and error mostly. You know, I constantly read books and studies on this kind of thing as well. But to be able to take it in field and to try new things, right? Foreplay begins on the opener. Touch begins basically on the opener. So to be comfortable and to do it playfully, you know, high five and spin around, you do like, I do all the playful stuff too, like, you know, like the trust test. Remember that one? Yeah. You know that? You have to have mystery, right? Mine's a little different because it's like a teaching tool. But I do that stuff and, you know, slaps and thumb wars and that's like the playful. That's the flirtatious aspect. Then the seductive aspect is knowing how to, like your fingertips are lethal weapons of lust. Knowing how to use them to turn her on to get her stimulated. This is how you, I don't know if I should say this. Well, Vince said something similar. Like, it's weird. Like he's such an expressive, outgoing, extroverted guy, right? But there's a lot of similarities here. I'm much more laid back in my demeanor. Much more like casual, I guess, and authoritative at the same time. That's the, that's the aspect of dominance. But I say this thing. I'm like, you know, you want to know how you really, this is how you know if you like me, you're going to go to the bathroom and you're going to take your panties off, throw them against the ceiling. And if they stick, that means you like me. That means it's on. But to just know you have that effect where he was saying the same thing. Like you get her panties, like dripping wet. I'm not, I'm not concerned with convincing her like, are we going to go out? Are we going to hang out? Are we going to go on a date? Is this really a date? Am I inviting her? Here's, here's another interesting little thing, right? The, the old school idea of a date was like you do something to impress her. Like the epitome that the classic is like dinner and a movie, right? You do something outside yourself to impress her. It's all this path. This path isn't just pickup, but it's a lower, lower resonance of energy. So lower vibrational form than what's over here. So it's like dinner and a movie, like I'm not enough. Just connecting is not enough. I got impressed. So the epitome is something like a hot air balloon ride, right? Got to really impress this girl. So that's old school. That's like, you know, back in the day. So the community came along and was like, you know, you got to, you got to, you got to act attached. You got to act like non-interested, all this whole idea of faking non-involvement and stuff. And they're like, you get invited to things you're already doing. That's what, that's what pickup artists do, right? So it's either like, you know, if you're into whatever your hobby is, whatever you're into, you invite her along to that, or it's like the simple shit, running errands and tasks. You know, I'm going to a grocery store, you should totally come with me. So that was the next level, right? The expression on this side, it's an expression. It's not impressing is what Zan calls and me and Jonathan are both students of Zan, right? Zan Perione. He says, uh, invite her to nothing. And he, his approach is like, you know, I'm in town and it's something kind of like, there's like a little bit of time constraint there. I'm in town for just a couple of days. I really like your look. I like your vibe. You totally got to hang out. Come over, come over. I'm staying here. And it's like, well, what are we going to do? I don't know. I haven't thought that far ahead. You should totally come over. Vince, Vince use some, something similar that I do. He did something like a double bind. And I say, we're either going to have an excitingly good time or we're going to have an amazing adventure. Either way, it's going to be fun. The, the date is us getting to know each other. Period. Bottom line. I'm not here to impress you. How can we connect? How can we enhance and enrich each other's lives? That's the date. Anything else? Yes. You know, that, the whole notion of, you know, sets going before a fashion, it kind of goes against, you know, the rules that you've been taught anywhere and everywhere. And I guess, what would happen if you put a fashion before sets? Can you give me some sort of context here so I can understand it better? Before sex is the path right here. You're creating a sense of obligation. It's not, let's, let's explore that a little bit. Obligation versus lust. Do you want to have obligatory sex or do you want to have lustful sex? So you're seeking affection. You're seeking attention and validation and approval and acceptance and all these things, right? She recognizes that. She's like, I've seen, I've played this before. I know this game. So you're both on the level of game recognizes game. And she's playing the game. Oh, he's cute. He doesn't smell bad. I like this about him. I like this like this. I'm going to give him a chance. Oh, but he's playing those stupid games. Why I like him, I'm going to play those two. Okay. But it creates that sense of obligation. And a relationship will always continue on the path that it was started. It takes a lot of like discipline on the part of both of you to, you know, break that pattern. But the opposite of that is lust and lust kind of gets a bad rap. Like it's like irresponsible, dangerous. Part of seduction is, is creating that sense of danger. You know, it's, it's many things. Like I was saying, adventure, excitement, romance, spontaneity, and living on the edge, right? Having that dangerous aspect about you. But lust is like, it's a desire. It's a craving. It's a hunger. Like you just are so into each other. It's mutual attraction, mutual admiration, mutual arousal, mutual desire at the same time. It's the whole loop. You just want each other so badly. You can't resist. You can't hold back. Instead of saying, Oh, third date. And well, he impressed me here. And he did this. And he bought this for me. The affectionate path. It's, it's straight to the heart of the matter. Arousal, primal, physical nature. Does that make sense? It does. And I guess I wonder, you know, in the community, you get this, you get this notion that you have to have comfort before you escalate to, you know, kissing sets. But if I get you straight, you know, you're saying, uh, you should just go straight to sex. It's straight to escalation. You know, you have your, your, well, it's, yeah. I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead. No, it's cool. Um, but where does the comfort fall in your, um, scheme? In my reality, comfort is mostly physical safety. If she feels safe around me and she's comfortable with my escalation, that's about it. It's, it's not this sense of like, it's non-verbal. Yeah. Non-verbal comfort. Was there another part to that? Okay. Cool. Thank you, man. Thank you.