 guys. We have a special treat. Chandler has some cool friends and joining us after the break. Two times Super Bowl champ Pro Bowl or Travis Kelsey. I want to talk hoops, but I really just want to get the scoop on Chandler Travis joins us next when run it back returns. Oh yeah. Two times Super Bowl champ best tight end in the NFL. Travis Kelsey is here. Thank you. I know it's early. I don't care what time zone you're in. It's early. And Chandler. Chandler came through. Look, here's the deal Travis. Chandler lives the life that all of us wish we could live and clearly you're in that lifestyle as well. All he does is play in golf tournaments and then go to the Cabo compound. You guys have been in some tournaments over the past few months Vegas, Mexico. Is he even good at this whole golf thing because he doesn't really share details. Is he even good to live golf live golf is by the offer my guy I'm sure. No, honestly, no funny story. We were we actually were down in Cabo playing in the member guest down there. And man, when I tell you Chan found a way to save my tail. I'm a we went our fleet. We go to the championship rounds from from about 80 yards out. I got a stick one closer. Chandler putt went in and I threw one off a guy's knee in the grandstand and came back across the green about 40 yards and back into the fairway. When I tell you my guys got ice in his veins. He dropped one with a putter the old Texas wedge baby from about 40 yards into the fairway dropped one to about one foot and literally saved our tail in the championship round. So my dog my dog's got it. My dog's got he's not just out here faking it. He's out here actually working. Hey Travis, they basically put us in the middle of 18th fairway right and Travis had 80 yards or something and we had to alternate shots. This man, the wind picks up the winds behind us. He just launches. It goes in stands comes back. It was amazing. But now Travis was the best. We were goddamn show ponies out there all week. I've never met someone that I've hit it off with like trap. He's my guy. So thank you for coming off. I feel like I'm looking at twins. I mean, this really just feels like some sort of a 23 and me moment for everybody. Look, I have to ask though better cell phone contacts between the two of you. Who is it? I mean, look at Shom trying to pretend like he's on assault. Get out of here. Who has the better side? I'm trying to really see that they're twins. Like I had to get that shot. It might be Shoms. Shoms might have the hottest contacts. Honestly. Well, how are we defining hot? I mean, I think we should sell that right now. Yeah. By the way, you look like an angel with this filter. How do I get that? Or you're just going to blur out the back. Honestly, I did it one time. Don't know how to switch your back dog. So I'm just stuck with it now. Travis, you're playing in the match. You're playing against Steph Curry, Clay Thompson. You're winning that right? Like, where's your level of confidence at right now? Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, me and me and my God, Pat, my homes have never lost in Vegas. And that even dates back to a golf tournament that I met Chan at. And I'll tell you what, it's Pat's going to have to save me on a few shots, but there are going to be some shots that I get close and I come through and hold my own weight. I'm interested to see what the dynamic is. You know, I usually get a little competitive, start talking smack and everything like that. And I don't know if the baby face of Sasson and Clay Thompson like to yank a little bit. Well, I think Clay gets after it a little bit. But we'll find out. We'll find out on TNT and I believe June 28th, June 28th. Actually, June 29th. Sorry about that. We're going to be watching. I know Chan was going to be in the intersection. So I know you grew up a Cavs fan. They lost the Knicks in the playoffs. What do you see this team needs to do moving forward? Just they need to keep growing. I mean, it's I've been in a position like that. You finally get a good group of like players together and you just got to find ways to win those big games and those key moments. So much focuses on like the playoffs in every single series County, just like in the playoffs and football, every single play counts. And it means everything. And I'll tell you what, man, I think I'm happy with what the Cavs got going right now. Obviously, hate to see how they how they lost to the Knicks in the playoffs. But I know my guy Donovan Mitchell in the gang has got everything carried, got everything covered over there in Cleveland. Trab, is it true that you cried when the Cavs won the championship in 2016? It was tears of happiness and a joy. I might have had a few cocktails, but it's it's always it's always I've been a Cleveland sports fan my entire life, man. So when Brian Kari K love and everybody brought one back for the city, I was I was I was with I was in the crowd at the parade, walking around in the in the in a hot Cleveland summer. And man, it was it was a beautiful thing to see. And I'll remember that day forever, man. No shame. Travis, I got a basketball question to I just have to confess, I'm a Raiders fan. And like, why? Like, why do you hate us in the way you do? What do you have against you? I love Raiders fans, man. Every time I see you guys, we have a great time, man. It's always the best. Yeah, I bet. I know we don't. I got a tip. I have a tremendous respect for for not only the Raiders and the guys that I play against the Raiders, but or that are on the Raiders. But I'll tell you what, the fan base, you guys don't hold back, man. I love every bit of the booze and the you suck during the game. That makes that makes football in the environment that much more fun to play in, man. So I nothing but love and respect for the Raiders, man. But you know, it's war every time we play. Yeah, I had season tickets when they were in Oakley and I watched you give like your gloves or everything to these two fans in the end zone. And I was like, yeah, we're going to lose 30 today. Thanks. My basketball question. My basketball question is when the Cavs did lose to the Knicks, did you turn your allegiance then to LeBron? I know, you know, you've been rooting for him forever. Was it you were you ready to see him win after that? You know it, man. I got I got so much love for LeBron and what he's been able to do, not only on the on the court, but off the court up in Northeast Ohio. He's changed the lives of a lot of people up there and provided a lot of smiles and a lot of happiness for a lot of families, man. And that being said, I wanted to see my guy go after another one and then find a way with even another team that you know, people might have speculated that he wouldn't be able to get this far with. I was I was hoping he could just, you know, power through again. But unfortunately he ran into the Joker, man, that guy is throwing up madness right now. And it didn't come through. But yeah, it was it was still an exciting, exciting run for him this year. And yeah, hopefully you can go and get another one next year. And I know LeBron's good on like he sends congratulations out to you on Twitter and all that. Is that do you guys do like a text behind the scenes? Congrats? Is it mostly public Twitter? How does this work? Not so much. It's just it's just over Twitter. You know, he's kind of been a friend from afar and just I've been able to recognize his career and throughout these these past couple of Super Bowl runs, he's been able to recognize mine. And it's it's pretty cool just rooting for a guy from the same area as you. And yeah, it's always it's always cool seeing seeing the tweet come across. By the way, Twitter, we need to get the update on the ring emojis because all they have is that engagement ring. And that really sort of takes it out of context. You recently threw out the first pitch at a Guardians game. We want to watch it all together. And we want to get your assessment on how you did. That's why your numbers in the 80s. What happened here? It was, you know, those the new baseballs actually have like more stick on them. I can't even I can't even lie. I hadn't thrown a baseball forever. I thought I'd be able to just go up there and wing it. And yeah, you got to go to practice, kids. You got to get there. You got to go to work. You got to get on a mound this year. I honestly, I got on the mound. I walked down the mound and I realized I was way too far away. And then I just needed to send it. I just was like, well, I'm here. So I might as well send it. I'm just glad I didn't I'm just glad I didn't skip one in the same Bieber space right there. These are ace over there. I feel like the stretching really convinced me that we were about to see greatness. Let me ask you this. If they switch it to a ceremonial at bat, can you hit one out? That was my argument. That was my argument. Give me give me a bat in my hands. I was never comfortable on the mound when I played baseball. All right. That was that was the one thing that I was either I was either in the game to throw as fast as hard as I can and just strike fear in the batter's box or I was I was up there. It's just waste time. But I was way way more comfortable in the box with a bat in my hands. So the ceremonial first hit is definitely more of my lane soon. Yeah, people want to know. Are you the best tight end of all time? I'll leave that all the other all the smart people that like you guys, I'll leave that up to you guys and all the critics. I'll tell you what, I have a blast doing what I do. And I know I've had a lot of success in this league. And it's just cool. And it's such an honor to be in the talks with a lot of the greats that have played this game. And yeah, I'll leave that up to you guys on whether or not I'm the best. You're the best. The answer is yes. He is definitely but trap you played basketball in high school, you're athletic, arguably the greatest tight end of all time. If they threw you in an NBA game right now, could you get a bucket? What was the expectations? I'm I'm I'm holding I'm playing my role. And I'm getting some buckets. I'm getting some boards. I'm getting some files, 100% getting some files that will make you earn some buckets, Chan. Other than that, though, I am. I don't know how much I can do on defense other than hack. Guys in the NBA, man, they got crazy moves right now to score in league. I'm just a few buckets. No, I'm glad you said that because Chandler actually on case show a few weeks ago said that if he was in the NFL, he would get a touchdown if he was in one game. I have a hard time with this, Travis. Is this even remotely possible? Can I, can I rebuttal? What do you rebuttal? It was your argument. I think I'm gonna break off like a cornerback and actually get no, I said, if I was on the one yard line, I could do a little quick slant. They could throw I'm six 10 track. I can't go get a jump ball for God's sake. No, we talked about this. We talked about this. And I honestly, I'm kind of with Chan on this. I think it might be easier for Chan to get a touchdown that it is for me to get a bucket. But it's yeah, I would say, I would say Chan could get a touchdown for sure, especially if you throw him on a one yard. I mean, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised the kind of athletes that have found their way in the end zone. All right, we know a few, we know a few bad guys that have been able to do it years past. I'm sure Chan can find his way in there. I can't even picture this. Man, that's not y'all running KC. That's not y'all running KC. You could get Chandler a nice fade or something like he can. I don't say I could see this usually a touchy subject on both sides of the lines here though. But what NBA players do you feel like could thrive in the NFL? Because a lot of them think they could a lot of Dennis Smith was going to switch sports mid career. Like these guys think they could jump in your sport and do it. Yeah, I mean, there's a there's probably a handful of guys with the toughness that I see on the court. Guys like a Pat Beverly or a guy like, you know, Jimmy Butler, you know, Russell Russell Ressbrook. I mean, you can't deny that guy's athletic ability and just how aggressive and physical he is. Guys like that somewhere around like that at 63 to 66 area. I feel like once you get to like 610, you're you're kind of limited to just running a slain on the goal line. But we'll say no LeBron, LeBron Jays man LeBron Jays. Yeah, no, I had to rethink that one now LeBron. I've seen that guy play in in high school. And he was every bit as good on the football field as he was on the basketball court. Yeah, also, how's that going for Dennis Smith? He just said that we haven't heard a peep about it. So I don't know if that Wow, so hateful. He must still be in the lab. He must still be in the lab. A few days ago, Shaq challenged you and Pat to a two game. Jack and Kenny, you and Pat. Are we doubling Shaq in the post? Are you front in the post? I'm just, you know what it is, baby? We go in San Antonio, pop in this style, hacky Shaq baby. He might take me, he might, he might throw me in the rim if I started hanging on him a little bit. So I need to chill out. I don't want to poke that beast man. I don't want to poke that guy. The idea of a two on two game and you making him shoot free throws would be two. So only chance we got man. So only chance anyone ever had. So Travis, I think this is another big question. Who's the Travis Kelsey of the NBA? A couple of years ago, a little while ago, Bobby Portis said it might be a prime Clay Thompson. Who are you buying that? Who's your equivalent in the NBA? You know, it has to be someone a little unorthodox, somebody that's kind of got their own flavor to the game. I've been able to kind of create my own position, essentially. And that obviously, I say I created it, but Andy Reed and the offense here in Kansas City has kind of been able to tweak the tight end position a little bit, as we all know. And it's just, I would say somebody with kind of their own flavor. Obviously, I want to name a big superstar, one of the best in the league. So I'm going to say like a James Hardner, like a Luca Doncik, maybe someone like a Jokic who, you know, just has their own flavor to the game and kind of has their own rhythm to how they play it. And you know, on top of that is just a great teammate and tries to do whatever he can to win. I love that. And just a great guy who saves puppies, like things like that. That's what you really want. Exactly. All right. There's been a lot of talk now, especially now, as the Warriors Dynasty is over. I don't know if that's true or not, but let's talk, first of all, is Casey a dynasty? Do you define it as such? And when it's all said and done, which duo will have more championships? You and Pat? Or Clay and Steph? Man, that's a good question. I would say, yeah, the Kansas City has been a dynasty for quite a while now. And obviously, I'm biased to that. But I think that what Coach Reed has done since he's been here in terms of winning in terms of the playoff runs and all the division championships and the AFC title appearances, then obviously the Super Bowls. We're 100% a dynasty. But when you put it up against what the Warriors have done, obviously, we don't have as many championships right now. So we've got some work to do. We're on an uphill battle, especially when you talk about what the Warriors have been able to do. Unfortunately, I've seen quite a few daggers from the Golden State Warriors being a Cavs fan throughout my day. But yeah, Cavs in seven anyways. But I think at the end of the day, Patty Mahomes finds a way to overtake. What is it? They got four championships? Yep, yep. Yeah. So I think Pat Mahomes is definitely going to find a way to get more than four championships. Hopefully, I'm still along for the run by the time he gets there. Oh, I can't imagine they break y'all up. That would be sad. Speaking of people that got broken up with DeAndre Hopkins, free agent. Let's make some news. It's going to be a chief. Let's make some news. Obviously, wherever that guy goes, he's the he's the biggest free agent right now. And one of the best players in the National Football League every time he puts a helmet on. So I'm I'm here to say that I would love to see him in a chief uniform. Obviously, he's got to do what's best for him and his family moving forward. And he had five other quarterbacks on that list outside of Patrick Mahomes. So I'm sure he's got a bunch of people knocking at his door and giving him a ring. Jeff, appreciate you coming on, man. Really looking forward to your season. People that don't know Travis Kelsey is the greatest best personality ever as successful as his career has been. It's even going to be better after he's done playing football. And thank you so much, bro. And we'll we'll get over it. I'm joining you guys next. You guys are awesome. Take all the jobs. That'd be great. Thanks, Travis. This is to beat these five screens. I mean, it's going to be I'll take it. Never leave the house. Never wear pants shows. Enjoy the rest of your week. We will all see you in LA on Monday. But the three of us are not done. We've got big, big dirty secrets to share when we come back. Oh, Chandler.