 But we've made, for example, biodiversity and conservation an economical, sustainable model. Currently, it's about 6% of our GDP comes from ecoturism, which provides jobs for people all around the country. And we are leveraging on the 5% of the biodiversity that we have in our territory to produce that, not only conservation, but making an economic model out of it. So that's going directly to scale. But then, when you mentioned the word hobby, it ring a bell on me because somehow, I have just briefly a discussion with my sister. My sister studied economics and she's a specialist on economics and biodiversity. And we were talking about an anecdote for the natives Americans in Costa Rica, how they perceive the jaguar, because from the typical occidental perspective, the large feline, like Lyon, is the king of the jungle because he's on top of the food chain. For native Americans, the jaguar is important because it's at the end of the food chain. And that depends. And they have this saying that if you see a jaguar, it's because the whole chain, it's healthy. And that's what they represent. I think that analogy is what we need to use when we talk about biosphere and humanity. Our well-being, it kind of depends the well-being of the rest, because sometimes we do not see those services on water, on soil, on oceans. We take those for granted. And I believe that's part of the problem. We are not tackling what we're doing to the environment to preserve it. And we need to, as this analogy, the main problem, it's here. It's how we perceive reality. We perceive that those are for granted or that we can live comfortably without a jaguar. And I think that's the narrative we need to change. Is there something we should all be looking out for that tells us the system is really working? Well, it's a tough one. But I have to say that. Every country, I suppose, has their own jaguar, their own apex predator, whatever that could tell us that. I think we need to leverage our goals in terms of protecting biosphere in more profound narratives. It's not only about ethics, because it is about ethics. But we need to consolidate a narrative that builds upon the ethics of conservation, growth, and well-being for the people, and how we can, as humanity, not only catch up with all the legacy that we as a generation represent, but the key that our generation represents for humanity. That's why, in the case of climate change, that narrative is so important, because it's really evident. In the context of biodiversity, it's a bit more complex, because the loss of biodiversity is so fast, but many people don't even know what we're losing. So I believe we need to work a lot on communication and narrative to inspire lots of people, not only to get to the enthusiast, as I believe many of the audiences, but when we manage to reach those who are indifferent and touch their heart or touch their market, we'll get to two more profound changes.