 Everybody can do this. Boss. Boss. Boss. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. 101. Yeah, we gonna talk, we gonna have fun. We be on fire, we be lively. It's a unique hustle, big shit. Big shit, big shit. It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit. Big shit. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy E-CEO, and I'm here with the official, lovely, Mr. Mako. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? Hey, man. So, hey, man, we got a special guest, like I always say, huh? You know, this is our second, third, like a vlog or something. But you gotta think about it. Everybody who come on here is special in their own way. It does something. Yeah, so I'm not gonna ever stop saying that. But this guy, man, hey, man, I've seen him interview people, man, from Rainwater to Shun, Cotton, all sorts of people, man. You going to take Kenny B, right? No. All these people. Hey, man. Get that man. It's probably giving them his roses. Why are you here, man? Check it, man. We got my boy Big D Derek in the house, man, from what? Mogul Media. Hey, what up, though? You know what I'm saying? Can I shoot? This is my camera right here. Yeah, that's you right there. What up, though, man? It's your boy Big D, the mogul, AKA Shook, Diddy, AKA Illuminati Jack, AKA Big Thanos, AKA Heaven on Earth, AKA Dry Rubs. Shout out to you. Why? Because I'm good before the drip. I don't need no sauce. Yeah, I know what he's doing. What up, though? Hey, yeah, yeah. He know what he's doing. Yeah, you need to get your speech together. This guy right here got a slogan. I am. I got it. I got it. Go on, go on. It ain't going to be enough. But if I say, y'all won't understand me, though. If I go there, y'all know. No, no. We'll be cool with it. We'll be cool with it. We'll be cool. We will edit it and get it out there to the mass. You know what I'm talking about? There you go. Thank you for coming on the show, man. And I appreciate y'all having me. Save, man. So, man, we got a lot to talk about, man. Hey, man, let's get to it. Save, man. I ain't going to lie, man. I looked at y'all. I said, man, this dude here, I see, you know, you got like a vibe, bro. The way that you come across with your questions is real subtle, real clean. And they don't have, and people could compare you like the Vlad or something, but it don't have no ill will, brother. Yeah. It don't have no ill will. You know what I'm saying? Good people can't, you know, you can't hide being a good person, bro. I mean, you know, I appreciate that. But you know what? But I ain't going to lie. If there's an elephant in the room. You're going to bring it out. I'm bringing it up. I'm trying to bring it up. So I lob you the softball questions. I get you ready. Yeah. So what's your favorite color? What did you grow up doing? You know what I'm saying? I like this. And then all of a sudden I hit it with, so this picture that just hit there. What was that all about? You don't know why? You got to warm them up. Say you got to get them right. Yeah, man. So what would you say would be, because it's only your opinion, because others might say different. Views might say different. Just because views say different don't mean that's your favorite episode that you recorded. So which one sticks out to you the most? So one of my favorite ones is definitely, I went to Detroit and I got the interview Big Hurt. Big Hurt, definitely an OG hip hop guy. You know what I'm saying? It's been around for a minute. That was like one of my favorite ones. And I mean, I can say for the first time, I think I was ever nervous in front of a person. Like, you know, he invited me to his crib. I went down there. I'm hitting my head on a lot of chandeliers, walking in the basement. Too tall. You know what I'm saying? That's true. Thanks. But no, that's definitely one of my ones. For sure. The rainwater one. Yeah. The second one. Recipes mode three. I think that was one of probably my most challenging one. And then I think one of the last one is like, I really, really, really, really enjoy. We'll probably be Don Tief. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Because he kind of pressed me a little bit about the Dallas gatekeeper list that I dropped. Wow. And you know, he felt like it wasn't no gatekeepers in Dallas and that nobody should ever be on the list with Jay Prince. You know, we kind of had our back and forth about it. So, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I like that. Interesting. A lot of people hold Jay Prince up here. I mean, and rightfully so. When you go back into the music background and the thing, the legacy that he put out there with Scar Faces and all the different Willidies and the Fifth Ward boys, you got to give him his respect. For sure. When it comes to the music, you can't deny that he's one of the patriarchs to do this. Of course. You got to let these young boys get on here, too. Shout out to Say Cheese, Sean Cotton. You can't say he's not up there. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying he's legendary. I can't even say he's not legendary like Jay Prince. I mean, Black Man. I've been there from the beginning. Number one blogging platform. Just got five certified RIA plaques. Platinum platform cash page. You know what I'm saying? Like what else he got to do, huh? And he's taking artists who have no buzz and blowing them up. He not jumping on a bandwagon once they got a buzz and say, okay, let me take you to the next level. His M.O. is let me find somebody who has nothing and turn them into something. And that's every artist spot on got them. That beatbox challenge. That Sean Cotton. That's his artist. But what makes you different from Sean Cotton? Because both of y'all are doing, you know, similar things when you come to the blog. So what makes you different from him? Sean is like my brother, man. He's like my little brother. Like we talk a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like often, probably once, twice a month. He hit me up for more like life advice. I may hit him up more so for like blogging advice. But what makes us different is... I don't know. Like he caters more to the younger people. Okay. Like he get the hottest, the newest younger artist. Me, my name on my platform is Mogul State of Mind. I'm trying to get people who make it Mogul moves within their respective fields. That's what's up. And then also I like to go back and get that nostalgic. Like I just did Silk. Did you? You know what I'm saying, baby? A little G from Silk. Really? You know what I'm saying? And hearing that, going back and getting them OGs and hearing what they hold process and hearing Celo Green tried out for Silk. I didn't know that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you got to check that out, man. I got to check that out. That's what I do. Hey, that's nice, man. Because you hitting on things that we do. We do the same thing. That's what you're seeing us. We do everything. We do everybody and everything. And I know we talk off camera about politicians. Like when the COVID popped off. You know what I'm saying? I hit Judge Clay Jenkins of Dallas County. I interviewed him. I need him. Awesome. Yeah, man. How did you make that happen? I went through Ebola. That was my guy. We had nothing at that moment. Because he says his wife had Ebola. That's crazy. And so tell us about how that experience was because that was a crazy time. People talking about COVID now. Yeah. You had to really deal with Ebola up close and personal. For sure. When nobody else knew anything about it, you're in Dallas. That's real. And not only think about that, but back then when there was Ebola, that was the big thing. And here comes Corona, which is to us bigger than. It should be. Probably so. You know what I mean? So at that point, we could not imagine anything bigger than Ebola. Correct. So how did y'all deal with that? So I'll tell you number one. Thank God Ebola isn't airborne. Okay. Right? So Ebola is passed through bodily fluids. Right. Shout out to my wife. She was an Aryan at Dallas Presbyterian. So she's no longer an Aryan? She still works for Dallas. What's she called? Texas Health Resources. But she's in more of a... She worked under the president. She's more corporate side doing the training now. Okay. So she's not in ICU anymore. But that whole process, man, is, you know what I'm saying? Corona is breathing the air. It's particles in the air. Ebola, to get it, you got to be in tune in that person's bodily fluids. Shout out to my wife, because she's so type A. She's so meticulous. So I remember us sitting in the bed watching all our brethren in Africa go through Ebola and how bad it was over there. And I was like, well, they ain't gonna never let it get to America. Then it shows up in America. And then you get this, you know, man that comes over, they end up being infected with the virus, and he shows up in Texas. And he's like, dang, they saying somebody in Texas got Ebola. He's like, man, me and her just sitting here, because nurses work like three days or four days off. So just an off day, we chilling. Then he was like, oh, no, this dude is in Dallas. There's a bunch of hospitals in Dallas. They ain't trippin'. Wife go to work, she callin' me. Boom. I got the patient. And she was a little scared or whatever. Yeah, of course. You know what I'm sayin'? And I understand, but I told her, I said, I'm here. Like you choose what you want to do. If you feel like, you know, you took an oath as a nurse that this is what you're not gonna ever turn nobody down. And if this guy put on your heart to go and do this and conquer this, if you get it, I get it. It is what it is, but we gonna conquer this. And last thing I want to have us do is send somebody in, feeling unsure. Right. You know what I'm sayin'? But she took it. You know what I'm sayin'? I know her. She's very type A. She pay attention to every detail. And 21, 20-something days, she worked with this man to try to save his life. Unfortunately, he passed away. I never called Ebola, because my wife shut sex down. The moment she found out that was her patient, it went no gettin' in. It didn't get in. Did you think about that before that took off when you was makin' all them bold statements? You ain't think about it, man, but you know it is what it is. You know what I'm sayin'? You gotta be there for her. You gotta be there. But that was her protecting me, because if it was me, I'd be like, forget it. Yeah, yeah, that's a man. We're like, we goin' in. If I die, die. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a rocky statement. But when she was dealing with him, did she contract Ebola? Yeah, so at some point in time, working with the patient, the dope thing about American science and people I'm vaccinated out from COVID and a lot of people are like, man, why? Because American science, we're very intrusive, right? We make sure we get in your urine, your feces, your blood, everything, test everything to try to find the best solution. But when you're dealing with a virus like Ebola, it's passed through bodily fluids. So, you know what I'm sayin'? She don't recount exactly how she interpreted it at what point, you know what I'm sayin'? But you know, you goin' in, you cleanin' up, if a person poopin', throwin' up, peein', whatever, can't do whatever for themselves. As a nurse, you gotta do it for yourself. You expose at any moment at any time. Whether it's you doing something wrong or somebody forgetting to sanitize something and you didn't know they didn't sanitize because they on the other shift and you catch it, whatever. I'm not sayin' that's what happened with her, but she got it and didn't know how she got it. But I saw how the science worked, you know what I'm sayin'? And how, you know, she ended up having to take an experimental drug, you know what I'm sayin'? To keep her from dying. Man, I'm on, y'all talk about quarantine. I'm on quarantine because that's my wife. But my wife was diagnosed with Ebola on a Tuesday and was Ebola free by Thursday. But I'm still on a 21 day quarantine. So, you know, she come back like, I can't do nothing for the most part. You know what I'm sayin'? But she came out, but, you know what I'm sayin'? But because of her type A and understanding the science and how things are done, she protected me, you know what I'm sayin'? And our family and everything like that. So, when it came to corona, we didn't just jump to get the vaccine. She vetted the process. Like, what is this vaccine made out of? Is this the typical way they inject in the virus to fight the virus? But this wasn't that. It's just your body already have a protein to fight corona, but this boosts the protein to help defeat it. So if you were to come in contact with it, you're less likely to catch it. Or if you caught it, you're less likely to get sick from it. But it's so crazy, because I like the way how you explain it, but then I'll have other nurses who will explain it totally different. And it makes you be like, oh. Well, I had one nurse that, through my friend the other night, we was talking, said five people got the shot and five people died. Older people. That's real. So, again, let's be honest. And you and I were speaking about this off camera. We can all take a leave. And y'all two will be straight. And I may have some type of, my body is different. Yeah, you could, you could have a reaction to where he does. This is what it is. You could take, both of y'all could take Peptobismol and I could take it. I think because this is such a widespread disease where it affected everybody at the same time. So that's what's building up the fair, because I look at the vaccine as like, when you watch TV and you say that this medicine is good for heart disease, but behind it says, but if you take it, you have, you might contract this, this, this, this, this, this. All these side effects. All these side effects. But it might work wonderful for this person over here, but this other person, although it cured that, they come up with all of these side effects. We've taken, when I was younger, I don't know how old you are, but measles, rubella, all of these other, you know, then we weren't thinking about what are the side effects. Every medicine to me, when I'm thinking about it now at the age that I am, because when you're younger, you're not thinking about all of that stuff. Now you're older, you're like, all the vaccines that I did get in the past, all of them probably did have a side effect because there's nothing made under man that does not have a side effect. That's real. But then you're not just man. I mean, just think of food allergies. Right. You know what I'm saying? Anything we consume in our bodies, our bodies just respond to it differently. That's just what it is. So I'm not an advocate for the vaccine. I'm not a evangelist. I don't go around preaching everybody should get the vaccine. I feel like men, we are so terrible at going to the doctor. You don't even know if you have an underlying condition. That's true. Is it men or is it black men? No, I say men in general. I think men. Just men in general. I'm just asking an honest question because I don't know because... I don't think it's black men. In general, we always talk to... In general, just not to show no... Weakness. No weakness, right? No weakness. Don't show your feelings. Because when you play sports, if you play football, basketball, baseball, whatever, if you got it... Walk it out. If you hurt, you just hurt. If you injure, you can't play. Are you hurt or are you injured? Walk it out. Drink some water. Walk it out. And so that's how we do as men. We always check in our bodies. Something be wrong. But you're like, shoot. Let me just drink some water. Let me just go lay down. And then when you finally hear a dude say, hey, I need to go to the doctor, he's on a brink of death at that moment because we've been taught to suck it up. And so most men who walk around with this pompous attitude like, I ain't worried about corona. Man, only kill 1%. First of all, 1% of mankind is a lot of people dying. You got to understand that 1% is 8 million people dying. That's a lot of life. 1% of American life is what? 300? We're past that. We're past 365,000. We got like over half a million. That's a lot of people. For some people say only 1% died. Let me ask you a question. How was it like being married to a wife who was a nurse during the pandemic with all of, before a vaccine, before any of that, her going to work and dealing with all of that? Well, you said she wasn't in the court. Yeah, so at this time, after the whole Ebola thing, she went more corporate. So she's been in charge of like the training and things for T.H.R. So that helps you ease your mind a lot? For me, it don't ease my, I mean, she eases my mind because I trust her with the science. We sit down and we have a conversation. And I remember when corona was happening, when it first kind of like kind of got out there and she could see like the numbers in the hospital increasing. And she's like, this is about to get bad. But she's not on the forefront where she can contract it and bring it home as much? Well, I mean, we can, true, but the high guy didn't happen anywhere. Right. But she saw like the data. She's seeing like hospital beds that, you know what I'm saying? That was normally not nowhere near capacity, maxing capacity everywhere. Wow. Let me ask you this. I'm going to get you, but pull you back into the music. Okay. What music scene in Dallas? The healing part, I asked everybody about this mode three thing because it's something that hit real because he was an aspiring artist and you did. You interviewed him, right? I never got. Only only two people in the city of Dallas interviewed the big three. That's yellow BZ trap boy and mode three and that's shine kind in the real life. Three stars. Yeah, them two. The only two that ever interviewed the big three or you want to say the big four. Yeah. Yeah. So when you seen all this happening, because you was closely needed to it to see what was going on, talking with Sean, and seeing all the back and forths because y'all best friends. So I know you're seeing. You know what I'm saying? We friends. Yeah. Your cousin best friend. Well, y'all talk a lot. Y'all talk. For sure. For sure. I got me and Juan talk. He was at my house two days ago. There you go. Okay. So now you see all of this stuff happening. Were there any time where you felt like, okay, do you look at yourself and say, man, is this something that we can kind of navigate? Or could be a, or we may be a part of what's going on? That's a good question. In that situation, I think with any situation that's not as serious and when somebody dies or get killed. It ain't. It's not much you can do. But what I challenge myself when I have any young person on my platform, whether it's Kenny B, murder game, peanut butter, it was poob it. I just did. As I try to challenge those guys, man, remember like, man, you in the entertainment business. It's not meant to be real. It's only meant to feel real. I said, think about it. When we go to a movie and we see Denzel Washington play a crooked cop. He's not a crooked cop in real life. Yeah. But what makes the movie good is because it felt real, but it wasn't a real movie. It's entertainment. That's so hard. That's so true. That's true. But the people or the kids are watching and taking it like it's real. So whatever you're saying, that's why a lot of times people have to be careful of what they say because for Denzel a crooked cop on the street and say his name was Joe Blow. But when people walk up to him, they're going to say, hey, Joe Blow, because they're taking it like it was real. That was who he was. I got you. Now, it's not much you can do with people who are fans because even people who watch Training Day with Denzel or some people who play Grand Theft Auto, some people can't separate real from fake. And that's what we're dealing with today is I'm trying to challenge these young dudes. It's like, man, you can rap about your environment. You can tell the story of what you've seen. You can tell the story about the hood, but you don't have to live it. See, the problem with social media is social media has turned everything into the lunch room again. Remember when you were in the lunch room and somebody talked about your shoes? You got to talk about their shoes and everybody like, oh. He says your shoe lace is dirty. Yeah, I used to do that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So now where everybody start hyping it up, oh, you ready to fight? Yeah. Social media has turned into a global lunch room that soon as somebody say something about you so you don't look like a punk, you feel like I got to go to the extreme to protect myself. And these young kids are killing themselves and killing each other over social media comments. Let me just say this. I think there's, when I asked you that question, it was, it's a reason behind it because these microphones are so powerful. And I think that the most important thing is you can understand that there's always good and evil. And you can take this thing and you can treat it as a platform to where you can create something to where it can be therapeutic to the children's years and the people that get to hear it, you know? And that's what we're shooting for. I know that's what I'm shooting for. Now, quick question. I know you said good and evil, but people who do evil do they really think they're being evil? No, they don't think about it when it's going on till after the fact of, you know, doing whatever they do. Or sometime in the process they know they're doing it too. It becomes a thing to where it's an exciting thing. I know, like, when you think about Tupac and people that was dealing with that thing, they were good at it. It became a thing to where people knew that this is how they perform and they was excited about it. Am I right? Got you. No, that's true. But let's look at Tupac. God bless the dead. God bless the dead? He was killed by somebody he jumped in the casino. That's correct. That's what, that's one of the things they say. Well, it's not even a theory. If you watch the black interviews. I know what I know. He was in the car when it happened, when his cousin who passed away killed him. There was the dude that got jumped. It's not a good government conspiracy. I know he was bigger than life and obviously a regular person couldn't kill him. We want something bigger to kill him. No, no, no. Unfortunately, that's what happened, right? With the Homo 3 thing, I don't know like the whole street side up it, but if I'm hearing what happened is he was hurt that his partner got killed. And that's the thing. Like certain things start off so simple until somebody real ramification happened. And sometimes it ain't no turning back. And so that's how I be trying to tell these young dudes that like certain things. It's not that serious. Like you beefing over. Like I seen push icing and Koda Black get into it a couple of weeks ago over who started money spread. I put it like this. Like you said earlier, these microphones are powerful. They are powerful songs are very powerful. Very powerful. I think with the young people though, a narrative has been painted with the idea of this word real that they have to do everything that they're saying. And we I just think it's just a lapse between what's reality and what's just entertainment. Like people enjoy wrestling. Everybody know wrestling is not real fighting. We just enjoy the theatrics. It feel real at time. And I'm trying to get our rappers to understand that man it's okay for it to feel real. You don't have to indulge in that lifestyle. I like the way you talk. I like the fact that you're thinking that way. And that you're voicing your opinion to these people because it matters. It matters so much. It matters so much. That it become almost for me a ministry within side the realm of what's going on with these individuals. For sure. I'm so serious about that. Until you put into a certain situation, you know how you don't think about certain things? So it's like until we started this platform I never really thought about I may have known it but I didn't think about it. How much music can control your moods, control people. And you knew because when you see Michael Jackson and he's singing and people just fainted. And I'm looking at him like that wouldn't be me but yeah I love Michael Jackson but that's crazy. You know what I mean to certain things but it affects a lot of people in different ways. And interviewing DJs and hearing them say in a club there was a fight about to break out but then they switched to music and did this, this, this and everybody's hugging like dang they control it that much. Or even an artist up there and they can control the people. And I'm like you see where the country is going, you see all of I don't need another Tupac and Biggie. Why not show evolution and show that we've evolved from this person being killed, that person being killed. And I actually asked a person that came on our show have had death threats before because of different things that they went through and stuff like that. And I can't ask Biggie or Tupac because they're already gone. And I said to him, I said hey they're already gone but you're getting death threats. How can how can you not think of how can you keep continuing to do what you're doing and you're not thinking about your family because I always say that people who keep beefing, they're being selfish because I know they have kids they have a wife or a girlfriend or mom and stuff that's going to miss them and you're going to keep at this knowing that you have family who are depending on you but over this that you can squash like why. So when I ask them that because of what they're doing there's like it's they don't think about their family when they're going through and doing what they're doing they don't think about them. And that's real. I mean you got to think you're 19 because you hip hop is still a young person's game. So when you find in a 16 to 23 year old I always like to say 16 to 24. It's something about turning 25 that makes you scary and understand you got stuff to lose but 16 to 24 there's no fear of any ramifications there's no fear of any penalty or consequences there's no fear that you it's arrogance. I'm not going to get caught. I am the toughest nobody's going to shoot me I'm going to shoot everybody this is the the world that we live in with these young people right now is everybody's untouchable and invincible and always when I first got here I was managing to come by artists that were in that demographic and I always kept telling them like man if I can get you to survive the 25 you going to be all right because it's something about 25 that clicks when you start to understand and I guess they say that a man a male I hear Charleston White always talk about this as well a male's mind doesn't fully develop until 25 and it clicks something clicks over and like hey my family like I got stuff to lose when you young you don't realize anything you lose because you don't think you're going to lose think you're going to win all the time and that's the thing everybody shoot the everybody got the best shooters on 18 everybody got the most gangsta on 18 and then somebody dies and I'm watching these young men bury their friends and they're broken and then to mental health we don't we need that in the inner city because we got PTSD in fact I don't know if y'all heard the Hennefest they they normally have in dollars they two years ago they had Hennefest and this one I realized all black people got PTSD and white people live life pretty good because we was at the festival and I just seen a group of black people running I just start running too I find out later if this is if we running for our lives or not it was nothing going on I said the entertainer said the same thing black people take over and yeah we do like but I was looking at like some of my white friends they just in there like what's going on like why everybody running like I see that on memes on Facebook so true but we've seen so much terror we've been traumatized so much that if we see a few of us going through something we out and and that's what we're seeing in our young communities that these kids are getting pumped fuller I remember growing up the most that people did was we for the most part you know I'm saying my generation now you got these kids like popping pills with like white kids things now you got them on perks you know I'm saying they taking Molly they taking ecstasy this was like rave scene stuff now this is infiltrated the inner city like these kids need we'll need more police officers we need people mental health people coming in having conversations bringing solutions figure out what's triggering to help but that's what we see in and hip hop is just reflecting it's a musical of what's going on in the hood that's all it is but with all the people that we've been talking to whether rappers or just people about mental health and all of that I realized that a lot of people don't really don't notice that they have mental health issues till they've gotten older until they go through things and realize that that's why I acted the way I I rebelled when I was younger because I didn't have my father in my life or because I didn't have my mother or because I got molested or because whatever the case is but you're not thinking about it when you're younger you're just like oh I just don't like such and such or I'm just this this is this but as you get older you realize there was a cause and then we've even had some people who said that I did get counseling but some people say well black men do not like counseling they don't want to go get a counselor to get help so how can we fix this generation I don't think black men don't want to get counseling I think we just not educated on it again I just think black culture isn't educated on it because when you bring up a counselor you ain't crazy you know what I'm saying you trying to go sit down with people acting like you crazy you ain't crazy you know what I'm saying we just need to be educated with it it's good to go sit down with somebody who has no ties to what's going on so they're very unbiased that can give you not only tips and tricks on how to help you cope with whatever you're going through but also help you be aware of what triggers you to act out that way and I understand it's just education whether it's health whether it's how we eat whether it's how we spend our money we just need that we starting to get that education in our neighborhoods but for so long mental health was just looking at you crazy and people didn't want that stigma okay alright I'm going to get back to the music no so what's the process for you you get an interview one of these musicians what's your process how do you determine what you're going to ask what's going on with that individual for us if it's an album if it's controversy is that how you're breaking down the process research I look for a story that backstory is important I want you to be able to come on I don't want to go through the cookie cutter phase I don't want to get you on here amen where you from how long you been rapping what's your favorite rapper oh yeah that's dope and then so what you got coming up next and in the show that's cookie cutter I don't want that so I go down to rabbit hole I start trying to find everybody friend to friends whoever to give me some information and I just want somebody with a story I mean my platform is mogul state in mind so it's people who are actually making mogul moves within that respective field how'd you come up with that name actually so my studio was mogul media studio okay my podcast which I kind of like how y'all had set up it was called mogul moves only what made you get out of that I decided to lead a studio space so you was like I'm gonna let that go I'm just gonna do mine kind of like mobile so I have an office down time but studio space man is getting dangerous but so it's like where mogul moves only like I said I did the interview space when I decided to lead the studio I hit on my nephew like man and I talked to Sean I was like bro I want to get into the one on one that's what I was looking for right there I want to get to one on one but I don't want you to feel like I'm stepping on your toes oh you gave that nigga respect like that that's my guy already what about Vlad did you call him okay what's up with that but Sean my guy I'm just messing with you you know he's like you know it's all good man and he was like you know whatever you need you know what I'm saying I'm there when I first started my podcast Sean was my first guest on there when I did my when I decided to do like the one on one interview similar to his he was my second guest but I said you know I'm gonna be on your head right he would say what you mean because I was like I'm gonna take what you do I'm gonna take it one more step bro what you mean so when I showed up to his house and interviewed him for the first time I had the lapel mic on him I had my little mobile recording device you own it you own it exactly I was like bro I'm trying to bring that quality to it appreciate it I wanted to bring that quality to it so you know Sean hit me up and he was like hey bro what's all that you use so I can say I leveled up because now you used to only hear his echo behind the camera and hear the people in front of the camera but now he using the mic that I use and this is like man I enjoy the interviews I like that I like that because you're so respectful with the moves you make man and that's what make you a stand up guy that's why I can tell why people always say you stand up because for you to say what you just said mean you respect the people that you work with and been around and that's it you know you're in a circle and that's what it takes man you can't you always say you don't compete with the team you eat with the team that's real but I like to compete too it makes it better well yeah it's friendly competition though it's some serious competitions out here yeah yeah yeah it come to a point where Vlad or somebody and you on their neck you ain't gonna care like you would Sean shout to Vlad though he did post my interview I was over there he posted the rainwater joint oh he posted it man that's that's real dope a lot of people give him a lot of flak do you agree with him uh no I boy called it Vlad for about two months what did he do no I think people got to understand man like I don't feel like he just did nothing wrong for the most part I mean I can I understand where he stood when it came to Lewis Farrakhan and whatever you know said minister Louis Farrakhan said you know Vlad was standing for his Jewish people like black people should far sales I understood that but you had to stand for yours Martin Royce the five nine was saying I was like okay shoot we just ain't gonna watch Vlad for a minute so I unsubscribed and it was like once I unsubscribed all the people I wanted to watch interview he had them on this but I stood strong you know what I'm saying but it wasn't me trying to cancel Vlad I don't think I don't like the council culture I think you can suspend people sit people down for a moment let them learn give them the grace in space to learn and then bring them back and say okay do you understand the area ways if you do then let's resume yeah so Vlad this is me giving them the grace in space to learn like yo you're not gonna come into our culture and strike all the money and everything that you're doing from our culture and think that you can do whatever to our people so I would just stand on our own and just to see that he lost a lot of subscribe what did you think because Dame already appointed that out before all that even happened yeah for sure so I've been pointing at people like Vlad and Leo Leo and all those guys he and anybody that was pretty much you remember when we seen him in Vegas at that play did he look like he was holding back on to Andy he'll figure you don't play no games you know what I mean like like that he loved standing up for his people man and shout out to Dame Dash man because he always he every time I met him he was stand up shout out today I think this is the problem for me is you gotta have the right person to give the right message with the right tonality yeah because if you have a person that comes off and not saying that this is Dame but if you have a person that comes off as bitching all the time complaining all the time things ain't right all the time it gets watered down and so that credibility almost look like you just ran in an upset again and you may be truly valid but because you ran and you was upset so much this is just you being you again I think I think he just pretty much is being who he is and I think he could care less as far as what nobody thinks everybody's different so he's a million people watch him some people think that he's cool and what he's saying is valid and whatever say even 80% but the other 20% be like and he's ranting whatever but he's touching the masses yeah that's true yeah but another thing also I don't agree with every single thing he says and no man's gonna do that not a real cat you know what I mean like a certain thing you might leave in or like I'm not gonna like or I might you know I can respect you for what you believe in but as a man or as a person of individuality I'm gonna stand my ground for what I feel in a respectful way and that's the problem where you become one throwing a temper tantrum when you when you can't talk and have a conversation and even debate at some point certain issues and still walk away shake hands and understand that everybody has their own truth and that's good that everyone has his own truth right I think we live in a climate where everybody feel like we have to be uniform instead of unified like we don't all have to look the same dress the same talk the same everything has to be the same that's the biggest setup we will never achieve that but if we're unified and understand our common goal is liberation and freedom equality for black people whether your way is this way and my way is this way but our goal is still equality and liberty for black people as long as we're trying to achieve that that's good we need different avenues we don't need everybody attacking from the same point of access that same thing I say like for Charleston white that was one of the reason I brought him on the platform because I know who I am and I know that there is something in me that it's just something that can be very effective toward positive change so I look at every possible situation in a way to where you can help somebody that's the way I feel if I see something so I never back down because I believe a certain way and I feel like I'm big enough for the job I can be used so I just I like to be I like to be in a position where I feel like I can help I put it like that does that make sense to you and that's cool I think that's dope and I think the angle that your approach with Charleston was amazing different from any other interview they've ever done for sure but I think a lot of people like Charleston because they're here for the show yeah yeah yeah we flipped it on man he get to flapping them arms they told me to shut up in the comments I read some of them jokers they said shut up and let him talk and all I'm like what the hell because that's what I used to see him do go on you gotta have a conversation and so he's a different guy like at first when I first heard him and this is before he did interviews I used to just hear a rant in his car I'm like man I'm not feeling this and then you know I seen a couple of my peers shout out to Dallas Global they started to interview and I'm like I don't I don't get it but once I watched them enough to start hearing them say like man I remember watching one of the OGs talk to the kids in the neighborhood when you talking to them like hey don't do that don't do that they don't listen when you say hey mom the kids start responding and I said I kind of get what his approach is now he say some crazy stuff outlandish but Elijah Muhammad said some crazy stuff yeah I don't think he don't trust the trust no no I'm just saying like he would say things to make you change your perception even though it might not be as far out as what Charles but he still would say things that would ignite a change in you and that's what sometimes what you just explained was that you know everybody needs to be addressing a different way to get through to them because I can come across to you in a nice sweet way and say ABC but somebody else say ABC in a very outlandish way and you get what they're saying but I'm like but that's the same thing I was trying to tell you but why did I have to take it there for you to understand but everybody is different it's just like playing sports you got some coaches who yell at a kid and when you yell at them that kid shut down and you got some coaches that come on the kid like amen all you got to do is X, Y and Z and the kid get it but then you got another kid that coach who said amen just do that that's right that's right so everybody has they're totally different but as long as our goal is equality and freedom we're good we don't have to be uniform we just need to be unified okay that makes sense so here we go so have you ever had a guest who is dull yes and how do you approach and get them vibrant if you ever did get them you don't how did you handle it? it's like pimping it's like ism it's in you it's not on you I get it I get that and sometimes people just that's who they are and I just get that interview over with I don't want to try to push you to be you you want to be on here and be boring or you want to be cool too cool to answer everything and you know what I'm saying I just do stuff and do you still put it out? you bear it yourself but I do I do have some interviews that I never put out though because we do too yeah sometimes if I was just like bro this is just I'm not I'm not it's if it's so dry to the point that it'll even represent the integrity of my life yeah no I'm not putting that how did you move during COVID time as far as interviewing did you shut down for a while man shut down for a long time we did too because I had actually bought this stuff a year when COVID first hit I went out and purchased the equipment and I was going to do it and then happened and I just kind of laid back so you've seen us come on with it the last three months we've just okay we feel to go in I'm full force we out here we out here now we go get out here and try to do what we thought to do at first I want to say I shut down March like everybody else in the world and we just start back up because I was with January right I was it um Kenny B was that doing cold you know I can't remember I know that my page took a hit though oh yeah I was going doing pretty good and then I stopped for all the months no content no nothing and then try to start back up and boy almost felt like I was starting all over again yeah it's so crazy because you would think that being in this industry during the pandemic because everybody's at home bored the only thing they have to do is be on YouTube and social media that you would think that you don't want to go in that was the purpose on January I was like okay all of them stopped okay I'm going to show y'all some y'all want to stop I got some for y'all that's the way I see it I was going to do it but y'all know how we are as consumers man the most the biggest thing other than quality that we like is consistency yeah that's it that's it that you're going to give me something new I'm sitting on this page and it's like dead and nothing else new is coming after they went through the rabbit hole and watch everything it's like Netflix you found that show like you binge watch and then you get to the end and realize it ain't no more seasons and they like I don't know if y'all watch alter carbon no no that was my show man I loved it and I binge watched it only to find out that they stopped making the show so nothing else comes out it hurts it hurts but that's what we do it's our fans as well is we go take that hiatus and they don't win and watch everything and nothing new comes I keep trying to think of this guy man up there with y'all man he had he was like the gatekeeper man he had he was on breakfast club and he had a old girl with him from where? I thought he was from Detroit trick trick that's it my name is trick trick he's from up there where you at it sounds like a trick trick so do you ever interview him or you ever thought about going to interview him? man I want to interview trick trick shout out to him I know he doing his thing got to show him shade 4 5 actually I'm hoping when I go back to Detroit here soon I get to sit down with him funny you knew exactly what I was talking about yeah trick trick man no flies on yeah he the man he the man up there you know what I'm saying check in and what about your boy uh uh Big Sean one on that picture with me down there hey man shout out to Big Sean though you know he be in LA now oh yeah so he can't be in a city like that he I mean he came through for that Detroit too though shout out to Big Sean with that album that boy was fire yeah um but yeah Big Sean be doing his thing man what is Daze Lof doing man what the heck is Daze Lof doing she just dropped the project man that's really hard okay why you ain't interviewing her you gotta go get your people man you gotta understand that like shout out to people Detroit is doing a thing on the music scene Sada Baby 42 Doug T Grisly you know what I'm saying easy you know what I'm saying like Detroit is going 40 the whole band game band game Lonnie you know I'm saying like they doing a thing so when they go off they gone so do you ever you ever try to say okay I'm gonna go and try to get this person or you just connect with different people that you know I try to get them but a lot of times like when I went to Detroit a lot of one was but even there yeah yeah but everybody come to Dallas and that's they do that's it sometimes I need to sit put I'd be so busy trying to chase but Texas is where the money at yeah yeah yeah and if and if anybody you know you come here and get a bag in Texas it ain't no federal tax I mean no state tax that's it because you know playing football like people don't realize like man you got to pay taxes based on every state you go get money in if you come to Texas you not paying that state tax so everybody come here to get that maximum bag and don't have to put out that's it so sometimes I got to learn man just stay put because Sada was here you know 42 Doug was here you know I'm saying so that's it but trick trick man shout out to them definitely over here I got to get down to them yeah I'd like to do that interview too because they he be yeah they say the gay keep up that say he said in the man no flies on you can't come up there I came up there but I don't know you know I ain't in entertainment if I was in entertainment I had to check in but the whole perspective of the check in wasn't that so you call or we gonna meet you up the problem was this trick trick knew that labels was sending their artists to Detroit and making money those artists was coming there and wasn't putting local artists on their shows wow feature with a big problem so he was like look quit sending them here and they're not helping here right I agree so when you send them here and they not helping here it's gonna be a problem so they started certain artists and it been a problem yeah but that happened with 2011 12 yeah I remember strong then now look at Detroit popping because of what trick trick did now you got Sada baby like all the people crazy right now wow so we're gonna ask them about the top 3 yeah let's get them with them top 3 top 3 artists of all time that are alive any genre so I know you you deal with a lot of rappers but it doesn't have to be a rapper top 3 artists all time my hey my god look man we'll still be friends I know you ain't from the south like me but you know give me them uh don't talk about yourself I was bored of the boot but I was raising the glove yeah you left you know what I'm saying I was never much yeah number one is who Jay Z Ho not Jay no I'm just kidding Jay is my guy I mean I like I think he's are you going by business perspective or lyrics business everything okay all right so I'll give you that hold um shit number 2 man y'all put me in y'all gave me 3 3 you only get 3 yeah yeah because that's why I did it that way you gotta give me the dog the ex DMX man the only time in my life I ever look like a groupie in front of my wife you seen DMX oh my god you gotta understand how embarrassed I was right you remember the bad boy reunion so we went to that you know DMX ain't with bad boy and it was like what they gonna have a surprise guest something like we in Dallas it's gonna probably be either DOC or Eric Abadu yeah that day I heard yo and I grabbed my head and I started jumping like this and my wife looked at me like like yo I like yo I just lost it man like and I hope he pulled through shout out to DMX and his family bro man I just ah man it hurts cause like you hear his story and how he ended up getting addicted to drugs I don't know if y'all heard that story never heard that story um just knew that he was on drugs a long time so just real brief DMX was 14 years old he had a guy that he looked up to that was like a uncle a big brother whatever he never did no drugs never drank never smoked no nothing at the time he ever hit a blood it was a blood laced with crack and that's when he got addicted by somebody and he broke down in tears I can't remember where interview was he was just like I don't understand why he would do that to me wow so from 14 years old that man been struggling with addiction with crack wow fight and I'm sure he's went to rehab and came back yeah a lot of times and all of that he was just in rehab he had checked himself in rehab not too long ago cause he felt like he was gonna relapse and it's like damn and he that interview was so powerful he was just like yo like I'm 14 this dude was grown handed him a blunt laced with crack yeah yeah and that's hate to hear that man hope he gets better so but my top three hold I'm gonna right now I'm gonna stick with hold DMX and get me Andre 3000 Andre 3000 say man you know you have your check that ass hold and go is it anytime anybody said Andre 3000 I think about hey you gotta check him out we just interviewed him he's not at Erica Badoo I'll let you hear I'm about to check it out bro it's stupid like hey that's why I was telling Cory about him wasn't it but I just was hollering at him today man he fresh though you got interviewing man and personality he dope bro that didn't sound familiar no he about 30 but his style his style is just like Andre oh you gonna love it and he ain't trying to do it but if you ask me this tomorrow my top three will probably still be hold and then it may switch to Eminem and Kanye oh no not Eminem not the boy from 8 Mile hold is the constant hold is the constant a lot of them boys up there that way that's what they think nah nah nah he going up that way with it and I get it but I'm in the south it's definitely UGK it's definitely all that it's just not with him I'll cast A-Ball then UGK aw man that man trippin man don't even worry about it oh god that's what Jesus wanted see she loving that look at how she loving it but you know you from Texas nah nah it ain't just I'm from Texas they did good music and I was here no no and you from Detroit but at the end of the day when I grew up I didn't listen at the hold I listened at P.M.C. I mean I feel you ain't a pimp you's a fairy yeah yeah yeah I'm from P.M. I'm from even before that you know it goes back to tell me something good it's something totally yeah so it's something at a track let me ask you a question is something at a track or at a club and I was young and it's a whole different vibe for me and even Jay-Z realized that too now don't get it twisted Jay-Z to go Jay-Z rock with them dudes you know what I mean where was crew music originated Houston who originated it can I tell you something about that I was confused because you know Detroit we speed everything up no for real like do you understand like how chopping screws slows every day Detroit speeds everything up so everything that you hear on the radio regular is actually sped up faster I never heard Scrooge I came here and I was in college and I heard one of my roommates bumping this thing I'm like Justina love it Justina love it and she was bumping it and I was like that is so slow what the world are you listening to what is that yeah yeah yeah yeah so you gotta understand I come from the land and everything sped up I used to come down here as a teenager and my cousin was like hey man you gotta listen to this DJ screw it I'm like this is slow I'm sorry I didn't mean to it's all good but yeah it's slowed up but you talk slow we think fast but we sped up so you gotta understand the dynamic for me is this is super slow because people who hear songs in a regular tempo they was like ok this is a little bit slower but we're the opposite of Texas it's almost day near chipmunk how sped up it is cause we got this dance move in Detroit called Jitten and y'all be going in and they feet be in like football drills in the club they feet be moving real fast I think I seen that then yeah I seen that so everything is sped up to that tempo if you hear Detroit beats no that's just the music tempo they speed up I love the music tempo but do they rap fast as well they don't do a twister fast but the beat itself like if you go listen to Sada Baby 42 Duh, T Grisly, anybody now the tempo is sped up because of how we always sped up everybody else's music I couldn't live out there not only because it's darn well too cold all the time thanks that's when my daughter lived but even here when rappers come on and he let me listen to some music and stuff I'm like I don't understand what they're saying if it's too fast for me I like when you go slow so I'm like cause I'm the type of person I want to hear what you're saying I want to hear your words I want bars but if I don't hear bars the only thing I like about your music is the beat so they're not rapping fast so if you go here to Sada Baby you heard that let me see you do your dance in these thousand dollars you know what I'm saying I can't hear how fast that beat is but he wasn't rapping fast it's just the beat beat is fast man mogul media so what are we looking to be at this year what's your goals what's your aspiration what's going on man you know what I just want to conquer more stories I want to hear more people journeys I want to hear the failures I want to hear the successes I want to hear the lessons learned that's really what I'm about man I'm going to travel so I'm out of here hey boy I got them two shots I'm glizzied up so you know what I'm saying back to Atlanta I got to do money move he got that song hitting that's going crazy right now and I'm working on like this whole you said you got to do you dealing with artists huh you dealing with artists or no no I'm not well shout out to me I'm actually working helping her right now in the D.F.Dub but I'm going out more on my own little tour okay I'm actually trying to set it up where I bring more blogs with me so like for example I go to North Carolina shout out the Fusus TV I want to be able to bring them bring Dallas Global if y'all interested in traveling bring y'all and host the event where artists can come but it's a place where it can be multiple rooms where y'all can set up an interview artists like right there and there and that's my best room to room just jump around and then on top of that I do you know it's like kind of my little public's work I'm saying that's what I'm trying to help artists get on places like this is this what you do 100% of the time you don't have any other career no I work I work I work I'm an executive at a mortgage company I got a team I'm over foreclosure so I'm the person that you don't ever want to cut to oh you don't find the house you take no I send people you take them that's what you want to say I take them so how long you said you've been married again 6 years made 2 5 years old and 1 year old so which you traveling all the time do you take her with you no I say I take the side check so I told you I said that he already seen that coming we talked about it early we know how you coming so you take the side check that's what I'm ignoring that I know he's playing so how does she handle that it is you know we women especially dealing with kids we like your help how often do you go anyway I ain't been nowhere how often do you plan to go but I don't mind taking her I don't mind taking her but the biggest thing is if I take her I do want to take her mom because my son is off the chain he gonna talk non stop that's the babysitter yeah you know what I'm saying but for the most part my wife is the homie man that's my guy I know what you mean so Mogul media man how did you meet Trill talk no pill talk did Jeff hook that up no actually I met Jeff a minute ago actually I interviewed Jeff should I talk pill talk no pill talk hit me up for interview just like Jeff did I brought him both of them we got it in that's my guy I know him most of his life he doing this thing he's definitely coming up he's doing things he's doing things that I like he's putting the information out there he's pushing whatever come out I don't have to worry about looking for it he's gonna push it to me and I don't even have to look for it he's putting out everything he's putting out you know we got about to close you out yeah I know cause when you hit me with the whole so what you got working now I've been doing this shit before y'all been married what did you say like 20 years 18 coming up in May actually me and my wife had this debate all the time I say women don't get married for love men get married for love women get married for money but they try to hide it behind security 100% cause you can't go broke I know I'm not getting none if my wife coming in with her head on her head in the electric bill is this we don't even talk about electric bill that's dead I'm way up y'all ready for me to answer that question go ahead for me it's love it's not for money at all because my point of view is we can work to get that together whether you have it or not but we have to have that chemistry we have to have God in the middle of our relationship because when you go through hard times if you don't have God you have nothing to hold on to it's not gonna last you got you so I don't look for the money part because money is not something that I'm like if we both working and we working hard to we gonna make money so I'm encountering you so it's about the money what you're saying is that he got the potential to make the money we have the potential to make the money yeah but what you're saying is that we meaning that you see you and you also see him being able to grind to go get it you have to see that but if he broke it has no ambition to get to the money that love will run out the potential has to be there I would hope like I said over the years God's been good to me I lost all Mary's counseling yeah let's go in I mean God made it to where we we've not been in need so you know I don't even know how that would feel over the last 20 some years God's been so good to me I'm a hustler man even with or without I'm winning as far as on the monetary it's always been something I've done well got you you know what I'm saying the work the hustle the flipped got you you side hustling you doing this you doing that that's what real men do and so I don't know nothing about that other side and I don't think I will the way God deals but terminal illness has happened all type of stuff that can counteract everything so you just never know and I believe that long as for me as long as I got God in the middle it don't matter so I believe this until I bring y'all on my show we'll continue this that's what I'm talking about baby in my opinion love is not a marriage is not about love Adam and Eve didn't date each other falling in love they was put together it was business I need y'all I made you a help mate this help mate help you cover and cover the earth like I need you to do it okay women talk about boas and Ruth yeah but if you look at that story every woman say I want a boas but boas was a ball and rich dude and Ruth didn't have nothing and her momma told her what to do to go get that rich dude go lay at his feet her momma told her how to go get the money yeah so my whole thing is the idea of marriage has never been about love it's always been about business my daddy had a hundred goats your daddy had a hundred goats we both had a son had a daughter now we got two hundred goats we are empire I get what you're saying but then you got to look at Mary and Joseph that wasn't Mary that was business she was 13 he was grown that was business you see I see what you're saying and I've heard a lot of women say that I've heard a lot of women like tiny tiny have said that before where her aunt told her you know go after the money but luckily that when she found TI she got the money and she got the love fast all in one but she's in love when it got money very easy nobody want nobody broke Gucci man said the same thing Gucci man said the same thing broke is the number one cause of divorce our debt which is broke the house gone we got to break up we don't want nobody to see this nothing dries up like broke that's it I agree with you bro we need to do a whole show segment on that weekly but we probably have to get somebody else she ain't going to get ready for that she ain't going to get ready they trying to hold up dignity they trying to hold up integrity I don't know nobody else I can't talk for nobody else I'm just talking about me hey you know shout out to you I just told my wife I ain't going to go broke and I just I think that the main thing is money helps I'm not going to say don't help but that's not the initial you know what I mean the clock that start ticking no because no it depends on because for me it depends on as I said him and where his mindset is because when you go broke we was like okay baby how long we going to be broke let's go work I can go clean house I can go do this we can go do this because you lost this job that's not the end of this we going to figure this out we going to work together to make what we need to make shout out to you that's amazing that's beautiful I'm just saying this he's on the clock we going to go out here we going to make this money back no you're not going to stay broke we're not going to stay here long about that money no because teamwork is you going to make things happen you going to work together to make it happen it doesn't work like that we going to top it up man I think you always invited on the show now you don't find your new home to come to when you want to do this I get to be the repeated guest come back man and throw us them gems and jewels if you see something we can improve on too we listen we love everybody say that everybody say that I don't buy that because there's no such thing as perfect today we just discovered perfect everybody he say you know what he like in the show he see why like this is going in like it's a vibe like we kicking it and it's okay to be perfect for sure take it I'll take it boss talk 101 man and we out