 Welcome to toffee TV. It is the player ratings Everton one Manchester United to 80 feet second defeat of goodness in the season third overall and What turned it out to be it turned out to be a I don't know. It was just a disappointing night. Wasn't it felt it felt quite flat. I thought In in general as a game playing late seven o'clock on a Sunday It felt like a lot of people had already banned themselves out Who were going to match it just felt like an inconvenience and you know Going to match when you do know I shouldn't feel like an inconvenience, but it's just felt like a bit of an inconvenience tonight and Yeah, yeah, it's just one of the one of the many things but Ultimately being beaten by two mistakes that we've caused ourselves And yeah, yeah, yeah disappointing disappointing But we but we move on let's get into it Jordan Pickford in goal That's a bit. I think that I certainly think the winning goal tonight. He could have done a lot better with I thought I thought is I Thought he had a lot more time To get himself in the right position and I think to be beating on On his right-hand side at the on the post side I think he'll be disappointed himself. He hasn't he hasn't got himself in a slightly better position Would run out they're coming in from the angle The first goal you could maybe as well could could question The angle he he gave to Anthony to finish it off both goals were quite quick and quite The same ending basically out we lost the ball in midfield for absolutely no reason and then they counter attack with You know one ball and the finish both good finishes, but I do think he Sending the second one you look at that and think he could have done a little bit better I've given I've given a six Sheamus Coleman Again, not a great knife for Sheamus. I think the pace really caught him out tonight He did you know the goal of the second goal He's he's he's caught high up the pitch But that's exactly wrong that's where he should be and it's actually the same for Michelin come on the first goal It's exactly where he should be. He just doesn't have the legs to get back anymore and with both centre backs being not being the fastest themselves then That's an issue it's an issue we did say when I think when Nathan Patterson got injured, I think that's one of the things we mentioned Think a lot of people mentioned there's that recovery place, you know for the we've seen it against West Ham When he when he in the last minute it's that recovery place to get you to get you back in so Listen Sheamus full throttle 100% at all those things, but just sadly I think you see you so that's what happens when you when you have Someone who's you know, you're getting diminishing returns from It's hard as best it just it just it just cut he was just caught out I think by I buy the pace by the pace being that high up I've given five and a half on the other side Michelin call exactly the same thing for the goal caught not too high up the pitch just caught sadly with Just not enough pace to get back and catch Anthony. He was he was fast I think he did his job for the most part. Okay, but I think you know again He's not blessed with loads and loads of pace. I think he's a good defender But saying you know gives everything but at times does get caught out number one because of his pace number two Sometimes positionally gets caught out But that's what your full backs are supposed to do them on there and that's where you're supposed to get the energy The energy of of humid fielder, so I've give Michelin course six the centre backs I think both of them defended well It's always really hard to split your sense of acts because they pay as a part if he plays a partnership and they're not making loads of mistakes It's hard to split them. I thought he both did well well tonight in terms of the Blocks and get me in the right position. I just think again It's the the legs then cut getting caught the way Manchester United score both goals was win the ball back in midfield and getting players coming in Off the wide positions don't know how much the centre backs could really do about that And what we love about these two is is the proper known it no nuns and centre backs Well, the only problem with that is it also means Not the kind of centre backs that I'm blessed with lots and lots of pace and they get caught Can't get caught and we've seen this before me mention this in the match preview That was always going to be the worry, but if you want to play an expansive game, you've got to try and get up the pitch And you're gonna leave that spacing behind just saying when you're at home And that was the case for both goals. So I've given them both a seven I thought I don't think there's I don't think there's much they could do about the goals And when you midfielders are losing the ball like that and this is three goals in the last two games where All three goals have come from losing the ball in midfield. So That's not always on the defenders. That's that's on the midfield and as as will come on too So give yeah, give kind of Cody on James Tarkovsky sevens and garner He was just a complete loss in the first half really really Poor display from and just everything his passing is tackling that nothing was working in that first half I feel like we got caught tonight playing where's money and I said last week against Man City got caught sort of Not being able to do what they wanted to do and because Man City don't give the ball away I think tonight we got caught between sort of like the devil and deep blue sea. It was it was what you You worried about losing the ball and that almost plays into the worry almost plays into losing the ball We add one or front and that You know deal the two wide man in the first half weren't really doing anything So we were we were we were getting caught with the ball far too much in midfield instead of just getting it and moving it faster And the first goal is just it's there's no need for it at all I think the three centre my fielders are playing a little triangle and It comes to Garner plays just a nothing pass Loses it and to two passes later. It's in the back of the net or one pass late in the back of the net and I Think he picked up a little bit in the second half, but you know He had a very poor night a really poor night and Overplaying it and again the midfield were poor, but That way there's that where does that come from? You know, it's the nothing-ahead of them and The what, you know, the wide men the creative men, you know, where were they to give the ball to so there's lots of different aspects to it but Yeah, garner was really poor. I've given I've given my five and Don't want to see that kind of game again. Oh, no Look like you tonight looked tired. I don't know why he just looked he just looked really tired Making little errors because of that lack of sharpness and Again, I don't can't really say where that comes from at times Just again getting caught with the ball and playing sloppy passes putting sloppy tackles And I don't couldn't really tell you why that is, but he just looked off at tonight. I've given my six and Alex a woby obviously I thought he scored a magnificent goal and to be fair He was the only one in there probably the only one on the pitch He was right really trying to affect things really trying to get round the pitch Really trying to do change the game. You obviously went to right back and still while he was playing right back. He was still Pushed really really forward high and trying to do things. He was the only one really was trying to Change something so I thought it would be played really well tonight and his goal was was magnificent I've given my eight because I generally generally is all round play was I know we I know we lost the goal And they lost the ball for the second goal That can happen it can happen course it can happen and Manchester United's tactics were almost wait That's why they did nothing in the second half is that the we we stopped giving silly Given the ball away, you know silly so and I Don't I thought you had a no-round good game and maybe I'm marking them a little bit too high But his goal was magnificent, but I've given my eight. I thought his all-round play was excellent again He's the spark the person driving us forward The front three I mean you think them they may feel the bad because the midfield after ball and giving away the front three Jesus I'm the Gordon. Where'd you start with Anthony Gordon? Again very very little contribution very very little contributions of the game a couple of little moments Ran after a man United playing and got himself booked whether it was a foul on her I don't know but got himself booked When hiding for me a lot of the game seeing this loads of times of goodness in the season for them Not loads of times, but goes hard and goes hard and behind the fullback and I Think if there's a difference between him and great great does try and get on the ball and do things Graves and products not great, but he does still time get on the ball. Um, I Just thought Gordon was garbage. I really I really did and it's not, you know, the people around me Saying the same things about me What does he do what does he do during the game? When does he pick the ball up and affect the game? I'm not I just don't see it. I don't see it. I know he's a young lad I young lad and he's been built up and maybe he's been built up more than he should have been But he doesn't he does he strolls round. He doesn't doesn't seem to really help out in other areas When he gets on the ball, it's it it's This there's a lot of the times he gets on the ball and it's he's trying to just Do something dead clever And I Just I just don't I just I just worry that he's it's almost like he thinks he's untouchable in a way and Apparently he's but he is he on five bookings now, and he's missing next week. I believe and I just I don't I just don't know what it is. I just don't know what it is I just I just for me He doesn't do enough and in the home games this season. He's been absolutely Shocking absolutely shocking really really has The away games have scored a couple of goals and But the home games my god, he doesn't the player that we saw last season with them The energy and getting stuck in and wanting to be in the game said, you know what I said this I think I Think did he make his debut coming on or one of his first ever games has came on against West Ham I think we do one one in the game and he First thing he did was he put it like a tackle in and got involved and he was in the game then It's like he doesn't get involved in the games now He just strolls around on the edges of the games and flitting and out, but he doesn't do anything to change the game and For me at that's hiding that at that's hiding. He doesn't he doesn't give you an outball I Really struggled to see What he offers this team and The sooner I mean of January can't come quick enough in terms of getting some another winging because Dwight MacNeill's not the answer. Let's let's be honest. Dwight MacNeill's is probably a solid squad player You can offer you bits and pieces, but He's not the answer to like time to take this team forward He's not gonna move the team forward and they haven't have to go and buy somebody in January Who's gonna who's gonna get involved? I just Yeah, I've I've give I've give Gordon a three. I thought he was just It was I just thought it was pathetic. I thought it was pathetic and Yeah On the other side great Great now great. I don't think great a particularly cool game But a buddy but he tries to get on the ball and he tries to affect things and when he gets on the ball You think oh he might do something He very rarely does but He does try and get on the ball I want those two players or whoever's playing those wide positions need to be in the game more need to be getting making runs that mean that we can hit the channels and But but when great gets on the ball and they find them at least he tries to Change things up, you know, he'll do this He'll slow the game down and speed her up and It's just that his own product isn't always there The final ball isn't always there But least he tries to like change something. I've give great. I've give great a five point seven five and I Think he is a final ball isn't isn't great and and but at least when he gets on the ball You can see he's trying to affect things And So yeah, and then Neil Malpie again another game that I think has just passed them by I think last week passed them by It's not easy being a center forward and being You know not being able to dominate the player imagine they couldn't do that last week And I don't think you could do that today. I think Martinis was far too good for them Far too strong Far too good to defend the forum and he just just flits around the game wasn't in the game enough Tries to come back and hold it up. But just there's just not enough there and obviously we got Dom on the pitch That's huge and important, but You can't really throw crosses in towards them as such Because he's he's not he's not got the height and we're trying to use on Anna in a different way And I think I think that takes away from on Anna a little bit. So I'm hoping when Dom comes back We We can start Using Dom as not, you know, someone who can play off get balls into the box and Be more direct at times when we need to give mobile 5.5 The subs James Garner looked looked all right look quite bright wanted to get on the ball You can see that kind of play he is try trying to get on the ball find good angles to shift it and move it and Looked all right if we've given us six six and a half And Chains change the game round a little bit did something a little bit different It's something I think rank Frank on par that's got to get better at his trust in the plays on the bench to come on and change games Regardless of what the score is You know, we you need to have plays you can bring on and change the game up through a thought he did all right Do I make Neil I thought he did okay as well I thought it was just change decision to play him on the right-hand side when we had Dominic Arvilloun on the pitch. I thought he was being better playing on the left and and Using that left foot to throw crosses in but I think that what they were trying to do is get a woby on the right outside I know much get get crosses in like we saw last week for the winning goal Whereas you crop he comes it comes inside on his left foot gets crosses in that are angling Towards the back post like we saw for the winning goal last week But I think he was all right make me was fine and give him a six-and-a-half as well Tom Yeah, come on. You could see straight away that he was up for it never really got into the game as such There was a moment he nearly got on the end of something, but you know, he'll take time off give him a six He'll take time to find his feet Just just got to keep him fit and get him in back and get get him hit back in the start line up And hopefully then ever will have a little bit more about them because at the moment I just think in the final third We're just so lightweight But it's just great to see him back and Rondon brought Rondon on again He didn't really offer anything So obviously try to bring him on to help probably win a couple more balls in the air hold the ball And listen towards the end of the game We're like three or four corners and we kept the ball at their end. So, you know, it sort of worked in a way I've given my five and a half. He was just Run around a little bit didn't he so there you go. I'm absolutely knackered as you can tell I'm absolutely shattered don't go on all day Well, not a bender, but don't go out all day Saturday drinking when you're my age it catches over jet I'm absolutely shattered. I could have done with just staying in bed all day But there you go. We're now to watch that and play in the rain and the wind. It's fine It's what we live for Yeah disappointing disappointing defeat, but there you go. Make sure to check out my Glacier reaction and Baz's videos as well Final way tomorrow live over on toffee TV Premier. Make sure you join us for that If you haven't joined toffee TV Premier, please do the link is in the description And it will be on the screen in a moment. See you later