 All right, let's call the June 28th architecture view board meeting to order Steve if you could please run through the roll for attendance Bob Heimerl Joe Clark present Marcus Sylvaglio Dick Lindy Jerry Jones present Pam Langen Pam Langen Charlie wake Charlie wake looks like we got five and that's corn. So we have a quorum. Thank you very much If everyone would please stand for the pledge of allegiance Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands Nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all and do any of our board members have potential conflicts of interest with today's application Hearing none. I'll move to item 2.1 the approval of the minutes from June 14th Move to approve Minutes of our last meeting second Motion and a second. Thanks Jerry any further discussion Hearing none. Let's just do a voice vote. So all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye Opposed All right, thanks everyone That brings us to item 3.1 The proposed exterior remodel with minor additions for the new cousin's restaurant at 2108 North Avenue if the applicant could please come to the podium So that can be televised and we can all hear what's going on and we've got a member on the phone So if you can introduce yourself give us a brief description of what was Submitted there was a change to the submittal give us some background on what changed and why Good afternoon. My name is Nathan with Paterra. I'm the project architect The project under review today is a is the old check cashing store currently since vacant. It's a Single occupant roughly 1800 square foot tenant building exterior facade is mostly It's all EFAS right now in a stucco. We're looking to upgrade the facade give it a facelift change some materials kind of Give it a little bit more curb appeal Looking to convert it to a cousin's restaurant We're looking to do a complete interior gut reconfigure spaces Add on a vestibule on the east side redo Some minor parking lot re-striping some minor connections to an adjacent lot to the west and Exterior cosmetic upgrades Can you just talk a little bit about the remodel project the exterior materials and specifics on the elevations? So the current exterior. It's a EFAS facade. It's falling apart getting deteriorated. So we're looking to restore the Anything that's that's not watertight currently. We're looking to add full-height glass So the current windows that you see on the front and the south side and on The east and west south sides they're currently window sills are bought the three feet off the floor We're looking to extend those full-height glass all the way to the floor get a little bit more open-air feeling a little bit More inviting space those windows are going to be wrapped in Restored EFAS and the dark color you see on the south side Up above it is going to be a new porcelain tile cornice. I brought material samples of that. I can show you The on the east side you're looking at a about a five by eight vestibule addition That's going to be wrapped in an architectural metal kind of a corrugated metal panel And then the remaining building on the north side the upper half of the building is Existing EFAS going to be painted Restored if it's damaged from water whatnot and then the bottom half is it's all deteriorated So it's going to be restored repainted EFAS different color We initially submitted drawings which you're you're seeing on your screen now the south side We are showing This is the correct facade what we want to submit so you want this one up right now exactly it This is the one we like to we're pursuing approval of today This one has the existing windows Existing lentils existing structure. We made them full-height made the windows go to the floor So we don't have to redo You know structural lentils that headers what not to reframe this Once we started to begin Exploratory demolition inside the space We found the the construction of the building is kind of a pre-engineered metal building so the existing metal panels that are currently holding the wall up are Somewhat significant for structural reasons so to add windows where there currently is not windows Would undergo relatively significant structural changes, so we're trying not to do that So we're looking to restore any existing window is going to be a replaced window full-height new window frames new glazing And the exception is a window of the vestibule on the east would be a new a new opening. We would engineer out Yeah, the elevation was much nicer with those windows in there Have you thought about other options for what could happen on that south facade just to break up that large black Ephesus area a change of paint color could be another option similar to what we did on the east and west and the north sides is similar We have it's hard to see but there's a there's a base. That's the darker blackish painted Ephesus You kind of see above the white car in that rendering on the right side there And then up above is painted white Ephesus You're thinking run that band through that front portion as well. It could be an option We're proposing the solid black that kind of goers goes with the current cousins color schemes But if that would help Make things more acceptable we'd be willing to do some different paint colors So thoughts from the the board any comments either on that or other parts of the building Other than that. It's obviously a huge improvement to what's there. So thank you very much for that Thank you. Is everybody familiar with what they're proposing on that front elevation then It's just the initial one came in with the windows on the south end and now the proposed one. They're showing just the Ephesus smaller windows and I mean as any type of window or even an option Really once you put any window it's that structural Change that we're really trying to avoid to make this thing more feasible for the client Yeah, all the dark is all Ephesus even that's center tower with the cousins signage on it same material Yes, when I first saw this they It struck me that the front is dark and the back is white Just wondered what the rationale of that is It's kind of going with the standard cousins color palette is really the reasoning. Okay right now It helps having that bottom band. I didn't notice that right away And the east side there in the back It's hard to see in the rendering also on the south side There is an awning above that that center bank of replaced doors and windows It sticks out about a foot. It's a it's a painted black metal awning a Pre-finished black metal only very similar to the same awning you see on the right side of that 3d rendering above the entry vestibule door one other item I'm if you mentioned that I missed it in your presentation, but the The cooler enclosure the very back is the car gated material correct the same material We're wrapping that vestibule with is going to be wrapping the the cooler addition Yeah, it's a nice tie-in for that. So it's not a standalone There's one other minor point in the the rendering. I was noticing the the car on the east side by the window to the vestibule This awfully close didn't know if you're going to put in at least wheel stops or some sort of treatment The rendering doesn't show it the architectural plan does there there will be pipe bollards right in front of that vestibule It should be shown on your architectural floor plan. We'll be on the slate plan here I don't know if that's what we're seeing here. I don't think they're showing on that So it looks like there's a sidewalk and stuff in between there Not right at the vestibule the vestibule project out Go back go forward a couple pages to sheet a 101 It shows up on the architectural floor plan There it is so the right there if you zoom in on that you can see three bollards on the Right above Sheboygan it says For those of us without a lot of architectural background a bollard is a metal pipe filled with concrete absolutely correct Thank you. Okay. Yeah Thanks Marcus any time we throw out stuff that doesn't make sense to you Please flag it because we've got other people listening into last year. If this was the thing That just seems something with like that window area I just Yeah, the first thing that came to mind for me for that south facade was even something similar to what Taco Bell used to do with for the panels And they just had a graphic in there Just something that would Break up that Fairly monolithic black look on the front. Yeah, they still using the sub guy little mascot Would he fit well into one of these spaces or both? Well, and I think and I think they when we looked at the cousins The south side. I think they were doing Utilizing that as one of their wall panels on their drive through so that was something that they looked at I don't know if that's the right spot, but I think personally I'd like to see something on there whether it's more branding or Signage or just some sort of panel to break it up a little The option to go with the stripe I can see that maybe doesn't fit with the the direction the corporate is looking for and it maybe gets a little bit too Sandwichy for the building Any other thoughts on your underneath and I mean I mean just We could easily do something You know in a scored EFAS pattern, but I don't think it's gonna get the the pop that you guys are really Talking about here. I think we'd be open to some kind of something with signage if you guys were would be open to that I guess it would depend on a still meeting the signage ordinance and be As long as it doesn't get tacky looking and make it worse than just the blank facade, right? but it does seem like an opportunity to Dress up the facade a little more and maybe get some some additional marketing out of it. Yeah, we'd be open that for sure I Don't know if it's something that You know if the board wanted they could approve as is encourage that work with staff staff has any issues I could always maybe Get some input. I don't know That's a potential direction that could be considered. I Didn't see anything else on the project that was jumping out at me as a concern So I would be open to that option if the rest of the board is so inclined I would make a motion to approve as presented with any additional changes being brought to staff Do you should I be more clear? Is there a recommended change or is it just approved as submitted? With potential changes coming in You know, I think we need to recommend a change to add some sort of thing over the black facade pieces So the basic project would be approved as presented With some minor revisions to the south elevation to be brought back for staff approval. That is exactly what I'm trying to say Thank you Everyone is clear on that. Do we have a second? second Jerry beat you to it take Any further discussion And are we all clear on what the motion is then All right sounds as if we are set Steve if you could call the roll, please sure Bob Hanroll Hi Joe Clark. Hi Marcus of Aglio. Hi Dick Lindy Jerry Jones. Hi excellent, we Opposed no, but just be a near thing never mind So that passes Thank you very much. Thank you. So I guess with that then Nathan and I would Work with one another and see what we can do there in in terms of that I guess there's some ideas that you've heard and just We can go back and forth and probably do it Administratively if I would have any questions and I would have to bring it back, but But I think you heard that we're just interested in a little bit in that section so sure we'll email you some options and yeah Let's go go forward from there great excellent. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much And Steve we've got a next meeting on July 12th. Yep, we'll have a meeting on July 12th. Perfect Any other business anything from the board to discuss? If not, I would entertain a motion for adjournment some moved All in favor I Thanks, Jerry. We are adjourned. Thanks everyone. Thank you