 Before we get into the video today, I just want to give a quick shout out to one of our sponsors, Nostik TV. Nostik TV is ancient wisdom reimagined. This is a Netflix for those who are spiritually curious and want a place to go where there is no censorship. I personally am doing a whole series on Nostik TV called The Esoteric Explorer where I am providing exclusive content to Nostik. Nostik TV is a host to all sorts of different content creators, many of whom are your old favorites. If you would like to check out Nostik TV, there is a link down in the description box below. Who are the people buried there? What are their real stories? Join me on my journey to bring people of the past into the present, digging through the mysteries to uncover the truth, allowing them to tell their stories through me. My name is Bobby and I'm the Crazy Grave Lady. Hello everybody and welcome back to Esoteric Atlanta. I'm so excited for this episode, the first of many with the Crazy Grave Lady, Bobby herself. How are you doing today, Bobby? I'm doing great, Bryce. Thanks so much for having me on today. I super appreciate it. I love it, girl. First of all, let me, you guys, Bobby just opened up her channel. I'm going to go ahead and show it to you guys. Actually, when she signed on, I was in the middle of watching her latest episode, but I'm going to put this down in the description box below, you guys. So you guys make sure you go and subscribe to Bobby's channel because Lord have mercy. I think this is one of the best ideas I have ever heard for a YouTube channel in my whole entire life. In fact, Bobby, you just did the media course with Jay and me. And when I first got into contact with you and was prepping you for the course and I found out, I sent you all those questions and I found out what you wanted to do. I told Jay, I was like, damn it. That is such a good idea because you're kind of like me. You're a little bit of a Nancy Drew yourself, aren't you? Yeah, I'm kind of a nosy new new and I like to live vicariously through dead people. So that's your opening clip, right? You speak to dead people, but not in the way that most people do. So what what do you actually do, Bobby? What's what's your channel based around? Well, I like to do research on dead people. I'd like to start from birth and go all the way to the grave. My niche is I like ancestry records and that's kind of like what I like to do my spare time. I started with my own family. I started researching my own family, learning about my own family tree. And so I kind of like to learn about people's stories. I learn about who they are from birth. I look at their birth records. I look through newspaper articles. Sometimes I might find stuff on them in books. I look at census records and then sometimes I take it all the way to the grave and look at their actual cemetery plot. Isn't that fascinating? I mean, that's such I mean, and I've had those thoughts too. Like you go into the cemeteries and you walk around and I love cemeteries as well. I think cemeteries are beautiful. And you walk around and you look at some of these tombstones and you'll see like born 1896, died 1936 and you're looking at this person that in a name you don't know and you're wondering like who was that person? Like what did their life look like? And so you're not like looking for like famous people that we all know. You're going into these graveyards and finding these graves and finding the grave and then going and doing the research on who this person really truly was in their life. And so it's bringing somebody back to life and allowing them to kind of tell their story, which is most the time just forgotten, you know, it's it's and no life deserves to be forgotten. And so it's so freaking fascinating. I'm going to tell you guys just kind of a spoiler. I know I've mentioned on this channel before that I recently found out that one of my great great-grandfathers haunts some locations in South Georgia. And so Bobby has been doing research into my own family line down and equipment that I don't know much about. So that's going to be an episode coming up because it takes patience, doesn't it, Bobby, to like dig through these records and dig through? It does. I've actually been researching people in my family for close to 20 years and still don't have some of the answers. I still cannot find the grave of my great-grandmother. I've just recently found out some of the details of her. It took me probably about 10 years to find her first name. People in my family never had it. So that took some time, but yeah, it does take patience. It does take a lot of digging sometimes. But when you find out stuff, the reward completely outweighs everything. To give you an example, this picture behind me found this in the basement of my father's house. I think this is a relative of my mother's, but I haven't pinpointed it yet. I still don't know who this is. You know, it's so interesting you say that because we do. I think we're so spoiled nowadays because everything is so documented and everything is so, oh, did I lose you? Can you hear me? I can hear you. I think I froze. I'll just keep talking. Oh, there we go. I'm back again. Well, it's Mercury retrograde right now, guys. So we're going to be messing with us. And I also got the lovely construction workers that will probably be the death of me and have been building a high rise next door for a very long time. But my, you know, it's frustrating. I have a great, great grandmother who immigrated over from the United Kingdom when she was nine years old. Now, she was the offspring of one of the Royal Family members direct descendant of Queen Victoria and her move moved to the United States at nine with one of her governesses required her to change her name. And that's all we know. So I know who her father was. The whole world knows who her father was. I'm not going to say it out of respect for my siblings and my cousins, but her, I don't know. I know who her daughter was because that was my great-grandmother. I know who her son, her grandson was because that was my grandfather, but I don't know if her name was Mary or Martha because she was born with one name and then changed to another name to hide who she actually, but they could do that back then, right? Like they could change their identity back then very easily. They didn't have the type of paperwork we have now, do they? They don't. And sometimes things will actually get lost. Yeah. We've had courthouses that have burned down. We've had courthouses that have been flooded. And of course, we have records that just mysteriously vanish. So sometimes those things just disappear and sometimes it's a lot of it's just putting those paper trails back together to try to find those things or it's word of mouth from your family to put this together too. Well, with Mary, Martha, whoever she was, that was word of mouth for a very long time about a family secret. And it wasn't until somebody was moving furniture in my family and a bunch of letters fell out of an old secretary that we were able to put all the pieces together of who this person was. And then when I stupidly did 23 and me, my boyfriend was like, and my six is going to show up at our door. I was like, there's a reason why they changed her name. No, I'm just kidding. But that's kind of, that's what makes history so fascinating to me is that they were able to to move around the world in a very different way than we're able to move around the world today. They weren't watched like we're watched today because they didn't have computers. They didn't have scanners. They didn't have chips. They didn't have social security numbers. They didn't have any of that stuff. And so and I often say to, you know, we have so many things in our world today that distracts us like TV, YouTube. Thank you for watching you guys, by the way. We love our YouTube channels. Yes. Yes. The only thing you should be watching our agenda. I'm just kidding. We had all these things. We have all these things today at our back and call to entertain us and distract us back then they didn't have much to distract them or entertain them. So there was they were doing a lot, weren't they? They were getting up to some mischief, weren't they back then? Oh, they were. They were and it's amazing how many things were so culturally the same in different countries. But you didn't know it because the country's didn't communicate. But right, different newspaper articles in different places. And they really were the same. And that's what to me is fascinating. I never liked history and I don't know about you, Bryce. But if you would have asked me when I was younger, what my favorite subjects were history were not was not it. Oh, that was one of my favorite. So I dig this shit. History and science were not my favorites. But now history and science are right up there with me. It's these are the things that I that I enjoy English. I loved it. But yeah, history is these things. And it's probably because these are the things that they mean more because you get to learn them the way that you want to. Well, you see them through a human's perspective, a human eyes. And I think that's actually why I did love history because I would sit in history class and be fascinated by. And who knows if our history is accurate or not? That's not the point of this video. But what they would teach us in history about events that happen and to imagine experience that yourself. It's the choice that people have to make. You know, I love that story that they tell us about the United States is accurate. I've often wondered that like what were my or your Bobby or any American that's not put on quote native? What what decisions did those did our ancestors make to actually get on a boat and come to a world they'd never seen before? You know, that's that's a huge decision. And I think, you know, a lot of my I know that my my mom's moms, the Stroms, the the line where Strom Thurman his his line. They were German and we have a book on them because of Strom Thurman. We had our books on this family guys. They were peasants. Like they were not, you know, that's the only reason why there's actually books on this side of my family is because of Strom Thurman. And if you guys don't know who he is, he he passed away recently. But he was a what in like the last 20 years or so. He was the longest running senator still holds the record as the longest running senator the United States government has ever seen. He was from South Carolina. Strom is my grandmother's maiden name. Bryce is my mother's maiden. That's a big thing to do down here in the South. So that was my grandmother's cousin. And I actually my I have some gifts that were given when I was born from him. So it's it's he's a big deal in the United States history. So that's the only reason why the strong family has books about them. So that I'm very lucky that way that I can actually read very well written biographies on the strong family. And they were peasants. They were when they were in northern Germany, they were the Wundstroms. And it was because the edict of knots, which I've talked about on my channel for got revoked by the Sun King by Louis the the 14th. Meaning that Henry the Fourth of France, when it switched from Valois to the bourbon line created the knot saying that certain people and territories would not be persecuted for being Protestants. Meaning they weren't going to be beheaded, tortured. And then when his whatever how many generations down grandson Louis the 14th revoked that all of a sudden Protestants were now able to be legally tortured again. And so the Wundstroms my line had to make the decision with no money to get on a boat or as hell like in the bottom level, which a lot of people did not survive that what three month but boat journey and they landed in what was called Charles Town South Carolina. It's now Charles Stun South Carolina. And the reason why they picked Charles Town is because it was owned by the English and they had built a brick wall around the city so Catholics couldn't come in. This is before the American Revolution. And so even though they couldn't speak English, they only spoke German. They felt safe and protected and I can't imagine. I mean, Northern Germany is not the same weather as Charles in South Carolina. Is it Bobby? They walked from very clear crystal clear kind of coldish weather to walking into muggy heat where there was malaria. We used to have malaria. There was yellow fever, all sorts of stuff going on and they actually ended up helping build and they weren't taken in the senses for the first few generations because of their not not being English and they took them a while to learn the English language in the city of Charleston actually went back and put a plaque up dedicated to them probably because of strong farming because of basically honoring them for the work they did to build the city of Charleston. They were just not acknowledged back then because they were peasants. And they built their fortune and built their life here and that's what's so fascinating to me, Bobby, as an American. I think a lot to really, you know, I often thought as somebody if somebody did not get on the boat when he or she did, I wouldn't be here today. You wouldn't be here today. And those choices that people make how it affects karmically affects future generations and that's what I used to think about as a child like wow, you know if Louis XIV had not revoked the Edith of Knots, they would not have left Germany and I wouldn't be here in this body. And that's what's wild to me and you can you probably see that in your research. Don't you, Bobby? Like these little things happen where these split second decisions are made and it changes the course of their of history, doesn't it? Yeah, and I come from a set of three brothers who came from Germany over to America and came to Pennsylvania and made the choice to make one of three different paths. They came down and were stayed in Pennsylvania. They came to Virginia or they came down to North Carolina. And so the brother that I'm descended from went to Virginia. Could have been from one of three brothers or they could have stayed in Germany. Right. But what's and we even look at like even like Ellis Island, like which, you know, for a bulk of my ancestors, they came over before the whole Ellis Island thing. But I don't even on Ellis Island. I have friends that have tried to do research of family that came through Ellis Island and they can't because they would they would be forced to change their last name. If it was or if the person checking them and couldn't if it was like a Eastern European name that couldn't really spell it. They would change it like like one strong became strong over time. It came best here when versus the U.N. S.T.R.U.M. So over time names do change. But you know all those people coming I'm sure you've run into that when you look at like Ellis Island stuff when people are coming through Ellis Island, especially from like Eastern Europe where it's more of like a Russian name and they're moving them through quickly almost like cattle. And they basically get assigned a new identity. Don't they? Yeah. And what also gets really confusing is that people weren't necessarily required to have surnames if they were coming from another country until they became naturalized until mid-1800s. So I'm doing a story right now. Spoiler alert. Haven't finished it yet. But on the Bunker brothers Chang'en and Bunker who were conjoined twins who came over from Thailand, which was known as Siam back from the early 1800s. But when they came over to America, they didn't have a last name. They didn't have a last name until they got married and that was because they were forced to pick a last name. They were Chang'en. And it's not even Bunker is not a native name is it at all? There isn't. What's one because they had met if there were there are different stories. But the one story that is predominant is that they had met a family in America. That was their last name and that they adopted that name because that was of appreciation for them. But that's not a name that they ever had before. They just because they were getting married and they said you need to sign a marriage certificate come up with a name. And that has that's hard them when you don't know that's like I know a lot of black people in America have like European last names and it's because they took the last name of their slave owners when they were when they were freed and they needed a surname. They would just take whatever there's there's Jefferson Watson. There's a lot of Watson's you know just Smith you know that's that's not an African name. That's a that's an English name and that makes it hard then to trace back. That's the one good thing about family names is it makes it easier to trace it back to where it comes from. You know it's interesting my my boyfriend has never really been super interested in history but I I'm such a history lover and his family like I always call the Prince of Florida because his family basically settled his his great great great whatever grandfather a man named Jesse Knight settled like Sarasota Tampa all the area like that's the Knights there's like a there's like a Knight train station and Tampa still like that whole area is his family and after you know he through me my excitement with history knowing parts I mean I don't know my dad's obviously you're going to be looking at my dad's mother but he kind of got a little bit more interested in his family history and turns out one of his third cousins has one of the most elaborate genealogy of the Knight family and so he's been looking through it and it turns out he is a direct descendant of Sir Thomas Moore which is a huge I mean Sir Thomas Moore wrote Utopia he was one of Henry the 8th like greatest ministers and he suffered a brutal execution because he refused to accept and boy Lynn as the new Queen and I was saying to my my boyfriend I was like isn't that wild that in your DNA you carry the ancestral memory of Sir Thomas Moore and that's what's interesting too like we carry that within our and I'm sure we've all listened if you're a white person you come from Europe Europeans I like to execute people so chances are we got some some state burnin some beheadings all in our DNA from past from past ancestors and how wild that is and how certain you know one of his through that line they became explorers where and that that was because they were wealthy aristocrats in England and they and that's how they ended up coming because they were all explorers and the ocean in the sea and I laugh at him because he's terrible at directions I'm like well I think that skipped that skipped you because he gets lost all the time so so in the same damn city he's lived in for most of his life he still gets lost so I'm like that would not have fair and well for you but you connect the dots and you look at these things and you're like wow you know because Sir Thomas Moore was executed it cause that whole issue with Henry VIII cause a lot of people to get nervous and start to leave you know over the next few generations start to get get the heck out of England to America so it's like even though that was a brutal execution if that had not happened would that not have triggered his descendants to get in the ocean and start exploring and get the hell out of England I don't know it's just wild how the story keeps unfolding and we and we're unfolding it for our future generations you know so so yeah so when was the first time Bobby like when you finally decided like beyond your family that you were going to start looking into complete strangers just going to graveyards and finding a complete stranger what was the first time you thought I want to do that I want to find a grave that I'm drawn to at a cemetery and I want to make a commitment to that grave to tell that person's story when was that that time where you thought I'm going to do this do you remember it I was probably young honestly I was young and just finding tombs and just gravestones of just young people because it always just it pulled at my heart strings just to see people who had passed who were young especially ones that would have the little and I don't know if you I'm sure you have in the south to this for you're further you're in the south I'm in the south but you're further south than I am I'm in a deep south I'm what they call the deep south I'm going to tip of the south during the deep south when they only have the 10 markers and they don't have the full stone to actually memorialize who the person is and to me I've always felt like I need to learn the story of who this person is and is that for paupers is that what they did that for is paupers is there a reason behind that sometimes I just mark them because they haven't committed to putting the full stone in yet but a lot of times people just don't come around putting the stone in but you're right sometimes it's the pauper and then they just don't commit but I've always there's always the saying that when you stop saying the people people die twice first the time that they die and then when you stop saying their name and to me when you stop learning about that person and you stop saying their name you stop learning who they are you stop remembering them you stop learning about them kind of like when you do your deep dives right when you stop doing that research and when you stop do it learning their stories they're not around anymore and so it's kind of always been second nature to me I never really put two and two together that it was really genealogy research but I kind of stumbled across somebody and like who is this person now with with this magical thing called the Google machine that is around now that wasn't around when we were younger boy does it make it so much easier because we had to go to this thing called the library back look things up but you know it's I still know the Dewey decimal system listen if the crash I still know that Dewey decimal system I can rock it out of library but it's fire fire I am you know I see it's true because if I if we didn't have the internet today even with my channel I would not be able to put up as many videos as frequently as I do because I would literally have to go to the library and have to pull books and if a book was checked out I have to wait for it so it does make it a lot easier now that everything is scanned and put on the internet I can just look and find it you know within certain amount of minutes what I'm looking for but um but yeah you know it's interesting to Bobby when we were doing our course we had awesome Laura on the channel she was from Australia and something I kind of figured out I don't know if this is more of an American thing or if this is another American thing we do our graveyards a little bit differently don't we apparently our graveyards you know it's interesting when I was covering my first up on my channel I talked a lot about Savannah Georgia I have a whole playlist called scandalous Savannah and I remember doing stories about certain graveyards in Savannah and they had to like readjust laws because at one point during the settlement time the olden days they couldn't bury you unless you're on hollowed ground well hollowed ground is ground that's owned by the property of a church and there wasn't and there was an issue so we have these like beautiful cemeteries connected to churches but we also have family cemeteries all over the south I mean there's a Bryce family cemetery up in South Carolina I'm sure down in equipment there was a Bennett family cemetery somewhere and it would be like on people's properties would be these cemeteries do you want to talk a little bit about that because I think Laura was pretty fascinated about that that it's part of our kind of our culture these cemeteries you know I've talked about Oakland Cemetery here in Atlanta where it was a social place for people it's still a social place they have concerts out there all the time so do you want to talk a little bit about that Bobby for our friends from overseas who are watching this like how the cultural aspect of cemeteries especially in the southern part of the United States yes cemeteries were huge especially the further south you go it's people have parties yes cemeteries burial their burial traditions are big Nolans is Nolans huge Nolans I have to say it right Nolans Nolans yeah I mean people will have celebrations they will have bands it's it's a big deal but people will have family cemeteries that is a larger plot of land kind of an extension of their own land in their home and it's kind of their backyard basically and they just kind of name it like my Grady family cemetery it would be just kind of my backyard and I would bury my husband my son my daughter I don't I'm just yeah grandma grandpa it's it's all my aunt Martha they would all be buried in the backyard and as the family would grow they would just all be buried in the backyard and sometimes there's friends around us sometimes there isn't people just come randomly stop by and pay their respects as I drove through wheat my husband and I went on vacation earlier this year and we drove through West Virginia part of Virginia we were through different states we've just randomly just would see in people's backyards just graveyards and of course I wanted to go visit he would not allow me to randomly knock on people's doors because he thought I would get shot this so but that just it's just how people are they just have family grave records that's very normal down here and I will say even like I've covered the werewolf of Georgia she's buried in the Owens family cemetery that's her mother's family and so and they've had to actually like tell you because people keep wanting to come to her grave like you will get shot if you trust past it's still because it's still considered private property again there's there's the Bryce family cemetery which is my great great great whatever up in South Carolina it's all his you know his generation a couple of generations buried there and and it's fascinating I love New Orleans though you guys you ever go to Nolans and I'll say that it is like the I was on a chalkboard when I hear people say New Orleans I'm like no what's that's not how you say it's come on he's it's not how you say it's Nolans have some respect have some respect for the city it's Nolans at least just say New Orleans don't say New Orleans it's not how you say it anyway but because Nolans it is below sea level they had a problem when they were burying their dad because anytime hurricane came or flooding came it was the bodies would come up out of the grave and there goes grandma just floating down the road you know so they had to start making more you go and they're up above the ground like in cement to keep the bodies there and in the coast of South Carolina and Savannah that area and the body is buried because of the sand in the low country you bury you know John Proctor Smith of 1776 that you bury and you try to dig them up in 2024 he's not going to be there anymore because the sand moves the bodies it moves them so where their plot is they get moved underground it's very people will find in that area they're doing renovations on their basement they'll find like skeletons from that have moved you know in a casket that have moved and it's it's I also will say too something we do down here in the south that I think I think some other cultures do this as well but I know ours comes from like the eccentric because the south is very eccentric as I've said you know we think of it as the Bible belt but it's very eccentric because we have the south is its own entity it's humid it breeds it's its own character like the south is its own character right and so you have this combination of these Protestant fates not not many Catholics Protestant fates voodoo hoodoo are intertwined with that as well as Native American fates well it's very common isn't it Bobby to go to cemeteries and see offerings on grace Oh yeah all the time and it's and it's very off the wall stuff too you don't just see typical flower I mean you and then that's what you would assume it's just flowers and just you see trinkets use beer cans you see what wild altar type things as one built up it was right around Halloween and I'm assuming that it was it was the person's favorite holiday and she had passed when she was just in her young 20s it was beautiful it was beautiful I love how they did it and they had it completely decorated for Halloween they had decorations they had the cobwebs up they had like a trick-or-treat thing going on they had I mean they had everything I mean it was just completely ornate yeah that's how talking is it down here in the south though when you see that like it's more shocking to me when I go to southern grades to not see that and we're talking this isn't culturally specific to a certain race like white people do this black people do this anybody from the south is going to do this leaving as it is it becomes an altar it's almost like how the in Asian cultures they venerate their ancestors you know they leave stuff that's kind of what we're doing too yeah you'll see you'll see toys for kids left at the grade and you don't touch that shit like you know if you're from the south you don't touch that like all kids know like if there's a teddy bear on a grade do you don't fucking touch that like that is for the spirit of the person like that is what people do there's call you leave a lot of coins there's a significant I can't remember the significance is to the coins even if you go to Oakland cemetery here in Atlanta they have a lot of a few famous people are buried there I'm Margaret Mitchell who wrote gone with the when sports person he's buried there and so if you go to his grave there are like piles and piles of golf balls people leave as an offering to his grave and that's so common it is so common people just um yeah it's funny because I don't even think about flowers being an offering because that's just so normal but no it's way more than that here in the south is to really really leave yeah alcohol you'll be in like a church cemetery and people will have a bottle of vodka up on a grade for somebody and the the church won't touch it it's it's for that spirit you know and it's it's some people leave some really nice stuff like expensive stuff on the grave for their departed loved ones I left a painted rock just as an experiment on my grandmother's grave probably eight months ago just to see I just wanted to see I went back um for the Reast Across America event the for the we talked about on my channel um so I went back this past weekend rock was still there yeah you people and there's a letter we've had snow since then still there not touched dude it's interesting it's like I I've worked with people who are street artists before in a lifetime before YouTube and with even with graffiti artists basically there's even like laws within their little criminal organization where they will only tag new buildings they will not touch historic buildings or graves they will not touch it and if they find out somebody else has been tagged in historic buildings or graves it is like gang warfare at that point like you don't fuck with graves or old buildings and so that is it just so so it doesn't shock me that that rock was still there because people even all all social economic backgrounds in the in the southern United States no not to touch that very sacred thing to leave where you're departed loved one and so that doesn't surprise me that even even though hooliganist of hooligans would be like oh I'm not touching that grandma go come haunt me if I touch that so hopefully would but yeah so it's it's um yeah it's it's such a southern thing a southern culture here to have very graveyards have personality here they have personalities and I always say to people I never feel like graveyards are super haunted anyway like there are some that are but I always feel like like if you're going to die like where you go on you're not going to haunt the graveyard you know you're going to go back to your house or be with your family but so they always feel pretty good to me graveyards for the most part you know it's it's um you know if you go deeper into the south they do do like the voodoo culture does do rituals out there not necessarily bad ones but they need certain graves from consecrated ground or from ground where someone's like a certain dirt like if you just get a little dirt you know and so you see that going on sometimes it's it's just a very important part of our of our culture and I was telling you just to kind of give a little spoiler alert to um as well you know I just asked Bobby before we went on camera you know we've talked a lot about appellation and um if you guys join me on Nostic TV with a Jessica Jones of cryptic countries she remote issue that happened in appellation we started talking about certain certain parts of apple and I'm at the base of it so we're going to be going up there to the area we go hiking soon and I was telling you Bobby like there are these like desolate roads like no one goes back there and you go on these hiking trails you'll just stumble upon an old family graveyard that's just there it's just there and I told Bobby I'm going to take some pictures and send them to her of these very old family graveyards now I don't think people are allowed to do family graveyards anymore are they Bobby is that against the law now to bury someone on your property I think if you can get permits maybe yeah pour into it which is kind of sad like I feel like maybe that's like the the the Republican in me where I'm like back off government right oh no my internet's freezing again can you still hear me I can still hear you okay the fucking mercury retrograde all right um yeah okay there I'm good good good good good yeah because I guess I guess it's not I guess when most people bury bodies on their property it's because they just murdered someone so I mean they're really really like you bring your dog on your property anymore to be honest so really I mean I want to be cremated I want I don't want to be buried I want to be cremated and I know like my sister's pets have passed away they're cremated and so you could take them with you everybody you know so yeah but it's so Bobby what else are you looking what else is coming up on your channel? um like I said I'm doing a deep dive right now I'm learning about Chang'e-Nang Bunker because there is actually a little bit of family relation to them not like you would think they are so you'll have to wait until that story starts that's gonna be fascinating girl because you told me a little bit about that that is some scandalous shit y'all like we think of the past is being all prim and proper uh honey they were not prim and proper were they they were having fun let's just put that way they were making some babies in very weird ways yeah um and I actually like you actually am also part of Gnostic as well so you will actually see me on Gnostic more to be determined on that too so that's exciting so you'll see me coming up with that now Bobby if there's somebody watching right now that really wants to hire you to do like look into their genealogy is that a possibility? that is a possibility I'm exploring that as well and if there's anybody that has a breezy family relative that they would like me to look a little bit into as well for a story on my channel um I will put my give you yeah I will give you my email address so that you can put that in your links so that some of me I'm telling you guys I contacted Bobby and I said girl I just found out that my great great grandfather has flaunted the shit out of some buildings that equipment Georgia I don't know how to fill about it I stumbled upon it on YouTube apparently people are making YouTube videos about him I kind of feel like I'm karmically need to go down there and tell him to move on but I'm curious have you seen this place I don't know if you should do that or not I know one place is like an old log how but it's like the pole I don't want to I'll I'm going to talk to my I'm still hesitant about saying their last name mainly because I'm slightly afraid of this family even though is my family is my grandma was family they were they yes yes they were very very powerful people and there's still some of them down in that area of equipment in Val d'Austin Georgia so I'm not I'll have to see I mean maybe I can say there anyway my grandmother was sweet as can be though she was awesome but but you know I was telling Bobby and that's a good thing is with with this I knew so much about my mom's family like my mom's family week because Bryce the family name that's my mom's made name the Bryce of South Carolina Williams Bryce football stadium I knew so much about them and both of my mom's parents come from the low country where my dad's dad comes from Tennessee my dad's mom comes from South Georgia so it was there was more there in South Carolina for us and we would go there and I I do think with your mom's family and a lot of cases not every case but a lot of cases I do think you do end up spending more time with your mom's family because the daughter is a daughter for the rest of your life a son is a son until he takes a life and so I grew up with my cousins like brothers and sisters and my dad's family not so much but I remember my dad's knowing my dad's mom's family were like super prominent in South Georgia but I never really thought much about it and then I said Bobby I said have an idea I just found out my great great grandfather is like haunting some places do you and you even said grove already been looking or something you were like there's some scandals there go there not oh oh I know I want to I want to learn what's so funny we signed on I'll just give you guys a teaser I've told I think I've told this door on air before my dad's mom my grandmother Marianne I loved her she she was the one who always tell this story she was the one that hit hit books on reincarnation under the bed for my grandfather so she was very open-minded she loved the fact that I was going to India she she went to college she went to undergrad graduated valedictorian of her university class and in time when women did not really go to school and she end up getting her master it's a very smart woman she joined the Rotary Club as the only woman like she was very like pantsuit nation before Hilary Clinton came around and she had told us when we were little that the reason why she decided to go to university is because she wanted to find a husband she had told us cause she had her father her uncle and two aunts and her aunts never got married really later in life but they were never when she was they were never married they were they were what what they called spinsters you know that's the name back then they were very well educated themselves and they were marched in the women's suffrage movement and they were very you know aww and so my grandmother though she was very paranoid as a little kid that if she stayed in equipment in the Valadasa area she would never meet a man because her aunts didn't meet men and so that's why she went to university she didn't I mean she graduated as a valedictorian but she really went with the intention of finding a husband which she did thank God she found my grandfather but um I mean I I think I was I was after I was finished with the university I was living in LA and I remember being in her kitchen and I remember her saying oh my God I just realized something she's like I think my aunts were lesbians it's like her whole life flashed before her eyes and all the choices that she had made was based on this idea that she thought her aunts just couldn't find a husband and then she realized all of a sudden like 80 years old she realized she didn't have to go to university that wasn't necessary all she had dude go to the club all she had I mean they were that prominent weren't they that she could find a husband like that couldn't she have down there because they were that prominent so but I'm like I'm really glad you did go grandma because that's how you met her in a date because he was from Knoxville, Tennessee there was no way she was going to meet him otherwise but yeah it's interesting though it's kind of funny because you and I think we all have that don't we Bobby we have certain family lines that we know a lot about and then certain ones we know nothing about and that's history isn't it yeah like I said I still am learning about the great grandmother that I don't know about my mom's father's mother was not on her on the death certificate I'm still learning about her and her whole side of the family which is a complete mystery to me that was but what got me into genealogy research in first place was to learn about this whole missing part of me and that was to me was that's makes me me yeah I want to learn who me is and I'm not going to me is until this is what makes you you are yeah so every day learning about this stuff is just fascinating the good the bad the ugly it's all a part of you it's all a part of of you the mystery of who you are through your DNA it's crazy even looking at the physicality of your DNA I have a cousin who's a redhead and no the only redhead in our family was my great grandfather my grandma my mom's mom's dad and had skipped multiple generations and it popped up on one of my cousins and so even like little parts of your DNA there's little parts of you you might look at an old picture and you're like holy shit you know I see I see my sister in this picture I see my cousin in this picture I see my kid in this picture of this DNA that's mushing together as it runs down the lines and certain things are popping out I mean I with the with the family line you're looking into you know I look old pictures of people and there's always that joke like my boyfriend's dad will say do you get you get you go back enough who's grandma and who's grandpa because they you know they don't look like they really not but I was even why we were laughing offline like my grandmother's family they were they were really good-looking like I looked at my great-uncle a guy named Spitz who I think might have been gay too but I don't know and I'm like damn he's he was hot I'm like he's probably what's gay I'm like that's a good-looking family and no one ever talked about this growing up because we didn't live I think too when you don't live in the area we're not in the area where these things these stories happened which is a lot of people you know we don't live in the like I didn't grow up in the area that my root family roots are you know I have that one parent grandparents from South South Georgia pretty much Florida so close to the Florida border and then everyone else was not from Georgia so I'm first I mean I wasn't even born in Georgia so I don't even know about technically first generation you know so it's it's you don't and we don't grow up with that around you and then if you have like my mom's parents and that might be why that might be another reason why that I knew about more about my mom's family because her parents died so young so it could have been that my mother was keeping those stories alive because everyone died and so it was up to them to tell us the stories about our lineage and that that was very important that my family knew that we were from low country that we were we just lived in Georgia but we were actually geeky let's that's another term for peace on the low country and all that that entails all that that that that that comes that applies to that and so I think too that that's part of it and as you said Bobby like one of your brothers went one state one one another state one one another state so you start to separate you know and it's it's kind of fun too I mean I think about like 23 and me an ancestry dot com like how many people have discovered a cousin they didn't know about principally they didn't know about because the DNA testing you know and how you probably find some of that stuff in your own research like ooh what was happening here what secret were they keeping the secret didn't go in the grave did it now that was interesting because I've found out that my grandfather was married before my grandmother and nobody ever talked about this in my family and I I was I had to break that to my mother I didn't know if my mother knew or not now she did but I had to have that difficult conversation with my mother and I'd say do you know that he she's like oh yeah we knew we didn't and I'm like well why didn't anybody ever tell me yeah I've had that conversation with me so that I didn't have to break it to you first of he was married before and why did I find this out in an ancestry record and why didn't anybody tell me that he was married for my grandmother very awkward conversation that the same the exact same thing thing happened to my boyfriend's mom and I can't remember if it was her mom or her grandmother because she's really into doing the genealogy and um her dad my boyfriend's grandfather so she's full of her mom's side full of Floridian with the night family but her dad fled Poland before World War Two so there's a lot she's got a lot of Polish and so she got into and she found it was it was either her mom or grandma have been married before the person that was the the father of the fan you know and um and it was like figuring out it was a very quick wedding I got an old like what what's the story there like when no one talked about this this was a total secret and it wasn't revealed until generations later when my boyfriend's mom was actually this marriage certificate you know and of course all the all the all the suspects are long gone so it's speculation at this point there's no one to who what happened like what happened here did she marry a boy from the wrong end of the of the railroad tracks and the parents got pissed and caused the divorce you know even in that in that time in history there were certain laws about different interracial marriages like this person was and so it's it's made for interesting family conversations about and then you start to look at people differently like when you have this idea of your grandma your dad your grandma sitting there knitting in the sweet lady and then you look into their history and you realize there's a whole life here of of adventures and mistakes and scandals and good stuff and achievements and accomplishments and you know how sad it is that we we take that for granted that we don't talk we don't ask the people while while they're around to tell us more about their life you know so alright Bobby well once again this has been so fun I cannot wait to have you back and it's fine we'll we'll we'll air all the dirty laundry I'm I'm I'm I'm my grandmother no longer alive and you know what knowing my grandmother she probably would find it very fascinating and she probably would be very supportive of an episode on her family line and I don't think she would shy away from the icky parts either so you know I think she would actually be very interested because she was not you know she she tried to teach me to meditate when I was eight like she was always I feel like I have a lot of her spirit in me anyway out of all of my family was concerned when I started traveling to India because of you know it's India and I've already traveled the world but this was different and my grandmother would like call me into the kitchen and be like what did you learn? Teach me what you learned I want to learn it teach me so she was very open-minded and so I don't think that she would be too embarrassed or too I think she would find it very scandalous and very interesting learning more about her family history so I'm going to ask you guys like listen y'all I'm I'm still I still have a little bit of PTSD after learning that there's a haunted land and people have done YouTube with my family and some of you guys had that experience like well Bobby know like if you know that there is a house somewhere all wherever you are in the world that's allegedly haunted by one of your ancestors like how fucking weird is that like it's just so weird to me I seriously think karmically I got to go down there and be like listen you can't scare me because I'm one of your offspring's and you need to tell them to stop stop just to let it go let it go what I think one of the places on the list of Linda listen listen Linda he's going to be pissed though because I got tattoos and I have a nose piercing so and I live with a man I live with a man I'll be nice I'll go and be a close I think his name was Stanley I mean listen Stanley listen Stanley listen Stanley listen my sister's got kids so the line is continuing but we've got to have a talk hasn't changed Stanley walk into the light my friend walk into the light if you want to make your your descendants happy what I mean I think one of the place he haunts is actually the house I think I sent you a picture of the house I think it's like a fly a flower shop now but it's the house that my grandfather my great-grandfather grew up and it was his but I think a father still haunts that place and be like you got to go my friend like like you got to go you had your fun when you were living didn't he Bobby he had his fun he's show enough did he had his fun now he's gonna have to pay the piper he's gonna have to go pay the piper now for that funny he had oh so so you guys I hope I hope Bobby with that episode coming up that it will help people feel more comfortable looking into their own history line and now we've all got we've got the good we got the bad we got the ugly don't we all of us and that's what makes life beautiful is that it's messy isn't it it is it's messy well Bobby I'm so thank you for coming on today I just think I like I said guys like I was like damn I got such a good idea when she said what she wanted to do for her content I was like how clever is that so yes I will put your email address down in the description box below so if you guys want to either send Bobby ideas or do a deep dive into your family offline so that you you know if you want to keep that private absolutely just reach out to Bobby and please go subscribe your channel guys I I'm just so excited for the more more content that you're going to be producing and also anastic TV also look into that as well with with Bobby and this is just fantastic thank you so much Bobby for doing this first of all for being the person to be like hold my beer guys I'm going to go do this and sharing your research with the world thank you thanks Bryce thanks again for having me on the day absolutely I can't wait to have you back we will talk to you guys soon guys have a wonderful Merry Christmas everybody Oh before I forget one more announcement I know I've been announcing this but until January 2nd for the first 250 people to make this purchase Gnostic TV is going to be available for 12 months if went for it's mercury retrograde my words are getting tied at check out if you fall the link below and at check out you put Shala for a discount code you can get 12 months of Gnostic TV for only 50 dollars that's it 50 dollars 12 months of Gnostic TV so you guys that's going to be in the description box blows for the first 250 people to make that purchase we also have gift cards available Gnostic TV if you want to give somebody is a year subscription you can use that discount code to give somebody in your life that year subscription to Gnostic TV but only for the first 250 people so links below you guys alright I hope you guys all have a very Merry Christmas and Bobby and I will see you all very soon bye guys