 I took them to my mother's place and my father's place to reorganize my thoughts and reorganize myself. So thinking through, I decided I'm a specialist in sports, I'm a professional sportsman. I went to a public field alone in a Taekwondo uniform, 6 and started Pamoja Maelspitz Academy. Training by myself, within a week I had recruited 10 people. First forward, when COVID-19 was hitting us, we had 1,450 students in three counties. Wow, very impressive. And right now, how many trainers do you have in the institution? When COVID-19 was hitting us, we had employed 14 youths. I'm the only one and madam who are over 35. There are so young people. The general manager who is the incoming, as we are translating to the International Academy, who is going to be the technical director, he is only 28 years old. Oh, why? That is very, very impressive, I must say. So I'd like to find out from you, Miss Mushere. And just for someone who is watching this conversation and they are wondering, then why should institutions and even parents just get to be part of Pamoja Multisports Academy? Wow. As Pamoja Multisports Company or organization, we empower, we out to empower our clients. Apart from looking out for our business side, we love to empower our parents when you bring your parents, say for example, when you bring your child. As much as I want to impress you so that I can get your money into our kitty, also our core value is to make sure that we give you what we have promised. If we say that your child, we see that your child has got this talent, it is upon us to nurture it to the level that we feel that that child is capable of going. And we feel that there is a lead at the moment, which we are trying to break free, that we can get our children to fly. Yes, we are athletes, we run, but there are also so much, so much out there that children can do. When you say you are a sports person, it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to be the one doing it. You can be a coach, you can be a facilitator, you can be a trainer. There is a whole lot of employment within the sports industry, which we are trying to sensitize the society that is there. So if you are to bring your child or your company brings up your people, we promise you to give you exactly what we have promised, the very best, bring out the best out of you. Alright, back to Mr. Nesmas. When you say this composition, you said, Fuliwapashin and the money will come, and for me a story of venturing into some numerous businesses, and a couple of them failing, and then back to the creation of business, which so far so good as per the story that you have told. What are a couple of financial lessons that you have learnt along the way? One of the major financial lessons that I have learnt is that it's not about how much money that comes in from investors or from banks and how long to put in the business. It is about how do you use what you have now? The moment you have 20 shillings and use 20 shillings and 50 cents, you'll get into debt. The moment you have 20 shillings and use 19 shillings and 50 cents, you are good. What if I'm watching this and I'm thinking, I'm intending to start a business, but I'm saving towards that business. Will there be enough amount of money when it comes to savings for me to start that particular business? You can never save enough to be able to start your dream business. What happens is that there is always a bigger business than the one you're starting. So the trick here is not to save so much money. It is to look who has the money and make him invest in the business. Alright, that is quite a heavy tip there when it comes to the financial aspect of it. There are coming community-based school programs by the government. Do you guys intend to work with the government? Yes, we do. Actually, for the last so many years before COVID, we were working with schools. Most of our students are basically directly partnering with schools. Now that they are opening up the community base, there is a section for physical fitness and wellness. That's where we're coming in. We might be looking either to work directly with the government or still partner with the schools that we've been working with. Either way, we'll still be serving our children. Yeah, yeah. So whichever way that it goes, we'll just have to work with the government whether through the schools or the government itself. Any competition Olympics coming up? Yes, that one I'll leave it to you. Yes, we had Olympics scheduled for this year in July and unfortunately COVID made it impossible for us to transit. I mean, to go to Olympics. It has been postponed to next year. And I'm very proud to say that the only Olympian from Taekwondo who was qualified to go to Tokyo 20, it's still Tokyo 2020, although it will be held in 2021, I was her coach in the All-African Games in Rabat and where she went after that, handed over to another coach, a variable coach, Linus Marangu, who also comes from the police force and was able to propel her to the Olympics through qualifiers which were held in Rabat last year. And of course, before we go to this product, there's somebody who identified. So I say big up to Coach Jack Ooyogi from Kibabu University. It feels like whenever you speak, there's a lot of motivation from your previous life of service. Has that influenced your business world in any form? Yes, very much. This business, as we are going forward since we started and where we are going, we are structuring it and following the military system. What is the military system? The military system is very organized and professional service with a lot of integrity. Okay. I see where the influence is coming from. It has come from the service to propel to the business world of which is recreational business. Coming to you, Ms. Mushera, currently doing this COVID-19 and the restrictions of gathering, how are you guys doing the trainings? Yeah. The COVID-19 got us thinking because now we, of course, like everybody else went into a halt. We are quite grateful because we managed to get ourselves into a place where we have a lot of land and it's an open nature place. I think it's about 10 acres. Yes. If we are going to do sessions, we only take up to 15 people according to the stipulated guidelines and because we have that land, it's very vast, it's open land, very, very natural with trees. How is it located? It's located in Kiamumbi, Kiambu in a place called Idilik House, Misli House. So that one came as a blessing so that we are able to continue without operations, without sessions, without breaking any rules or without endangering anybody's life and people actually love it there because the gym is all, like now we feel like the gym is all sweaty and we used to love it there and now this outdoor is all free and fresh and people love it there better. Taro vachiyo training? Yes, we've not gone into it very much but we are going towards that direction now where we do the vachiyo training which is live stream or recorded and either way like he said whatever you want we will deliver it to your doorstep whether through live stream or outsourcing. Not going Mr. Nesmas is very confident. Yes, he is very he is the driving force. Welcome to the youth in Kenya the unemployment rate continues to grow day in, day out. How can the young people benefit from this particular spot centre? One thing I like to speak to the young people watching me is stop choosing what you want to do. Stop choosing what you want to do. Look at the opportunities around you and get in. That is number one. Secondly, I want to tell the young people stop putting money first. For the last 17, 18 years I have been an official and executive in the Kenya Tekondo Federation as the assistant treasurer I earn zero salary it is just going to your pure volunteer and as you volunteer out there you meet people, create networks and things open up. So the one thing I am telling the young people don't base your ideals on money but if you are not being paid you are not doing anything. Opportunities are there. Work is there that we choose and because we are choosing the kind of work we want to do it is making us to become jobless. Alright, thank you very much for that particular advice and I would like to go back to for the underprivileged in the society and they would love to to take these training sessions and services that you people have for the youth. How can they benefit and is there any program or looking into the underprivileged? Yes, we have the CSR that we normally have. Every week, every Sunday we are out in the community we train for free for the children who are not able to come into our facility because of the financial background. As we train for free we usually have one out of every ten students that we have coming in and rolling into our school the eleventh one is a free student and that child when we are doing the free community service we are able to see that particular child that even that child comes every Sunday they are there and there is this particular thing that you can see they are very interested in and once you train you can see that they are very eager to go ahead and do it. So when we are doing the eleventh child in every activity we will take note of that one because free training we are able to get sponsorship for education we also go to the next levels free training, free education and we have quite a few so far ten who have already finished high school through this facilitated sponsorship through Pamoja and also they are part of us because they come to train also so that is the way so far we are doing with the underprivileged. Let's look at the couple of achievements that the business has experienced for the past two decades I will pick up from where she has said about education ours is a social enterprise we got in there not because of making money but making a change in the society and the biggest achievement you have made so far is to ensure that we have facilitated sponsorship for education for the E student the D student and the C student and the E student so long as you are talented in sports to finish form 4 that has been a major achievement Right now we have out of the tensions mentioned we have two of them in the university we have three of them in college two are self-employed as Bonda Boulder riders but we are really thinking of how do we get them back into the stream to develop that talent to the next level we have one who is now a trainer in the gym and that has been the major achievement beyond that when it comes to talent development of initial phase was not so much focused on the athletes it was focused on creating jobs for for the young people and we have created we have created as we are talking right now approximately two to three thousand jobs for the young people and we have also gotten serious strategic partners whom we have worked with we have worked very closely with the Kenya private sector alliance providing internship to the youth and we were able to facilitate 200 youths internship in our academy during the pilot team before the program was turned over to the ministry of sports for the means of youth for implementation so going forward as soon as we are done over with covid we are taking more interns those are the major achievements now of course people want to hear about money we had zero minus two million shillings when we started off right now by the time covid was eating us we were able to turn 300,000 per month that's okay it's majorly focused on talent development and also the business side not bad what's some of the challenges that you guys are facing the main challenge is have been working with partners you find that the delays of payments and now you have the staff you have to upkeep them that has been the main challenge that we've had to keep going even when the finances are being delayed by from our partners but otherwise it has been a wonderful experience was it feeling like when you see one of your talents of people you have actually mented just thrive in life as you spoke about the lady who is going to be part of the Olympics which is now it's about to be in 2020 was it feeling like when you say that they are feeling over seeing Akuna Klit you have mented this beyond explanation super I can remember when this girl was only 3 years old in Taekwondo when she qualified into the semifinal and then there was another one also called Evalinal Watch also qualified for the semifinal we had only 2 players who won medals but you could have thought Kenya was in the number 1 leading country with the kind of noise we met we shut down Egypt, Morocco the horse they could not talk despite the fact that they had more medals than us yes it is just super what's the vision of the Pamoja Sports Centre our vision is to ensure that we have our first graduates or other graduates from our own sports university we are planning to launch by 2027 Mr. Mishiri are there new projects coming up as we just went up this conversation yes the main new project that we have now is that the one how he mentioned and the music that one we didn't have it before we were focusing on the fitness side of things and so it's going to be exciting the modelling side also I have a soft spot for it so that one I am finding it's going to south of soft 10 we've been too much military so it's going to bring a little bit of femininity into the company so I am looking forward to that I look at it and I am saying you are just going to be a great impact on that just considering of how you speak of it seems you are passionate about that it's my former thing so I used to do I was to be a model so that's why I am very excited about it in arts and music we are looking for a thing of new projects coming up and just looking at talent development and everything that you guys offer to the community and how can guys find across all social media platforms and keep on the conversation ok thank you very much first I will start with the telephone number I wish I could give out her telephone number and I will give out the social media handles because my job as a CEO is to think and interruptions alright the telephone number is 0757 462992 that's 0757 462992 ok you find us on our websites pamiya.co.ke pamiya.co.ke on YouTube pamiya.co.ke pamiya.co.ke pamiya.co.ke pamiya.co.ke pamiya.co.ke pamiya.co.ke tizia tuu apo tizia tuu apo so you guys tizia tuu apo if you have any question the simple as that the social media handles and get to find out more about hello sports center educationalbro 팬�ant s backstage and end up making a whole business out of it thank 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