 Welcome back to Why in the Morning on Woman Crush. When is there why to for for channels where you can find us across? All our social media handles at Michelle Achira is where you can find me across. All my social, we'll get into the discussion of the day. So head on to our Facebook page. We have a question there. So we have now Lisa. So say ni muna jua quick and safe ways. Musea ane zawa moka haraka haraka wa say it. In studio I am joined by a couple of our guests. So I'll let them introduce themselves from my closest, right? Hi guys, my name is Mark Mugo. I'm an actor, I'm a content creator and I'm also a mental health advocate. Thank you very much Mark. Hi guys, my name is Jackie Lule. I'm a postgraduate student at Kenyatta University. And I'm also a writer and I'm a poet. Hi guys, my name is Frida. I'm a graduate student at Kenyatta University. And I'm also a writer and I'm a poet. Hi guys, my name is Frida. Hi guys, my name is Florence Mwangi. Florence is a mother. I'm a director and founder of Destiny Rescue Center. Where we deal with teenage girls and children in need of care and protection. Yes. So guys, welcome. And this is the story. First of all, everyone wants a soft life. Everyone wants to live lavishly. And when you look at our social media channels. We look at the people problem now. And then just compare ages to be like, I am 20 something and she is 20 something. You know, kumoka lazema. So this issue is kumoka especially for the elderly people. We want to talk about kumoka earlier. Before that, one of the tips is kumoka very quickly. Raka raka fina. Now I'm sure that you're so safe. So, where do you live? Kumoka, this is an interesting discussion. Because as you to, not a kumoka, because life as a young person in this country, in this continent, in this world, it's very hard. I mean, to be honest as in what can I say. It's really hard when you don't have anything to sustain yourself. And it's hard when you, when you can't sustain yourself, you end up having so many problems within you. So everybody wants to make it. Everybody wants to build their own house, buy their own car. For us it's good. I'm the only panelist who's a man. Everybody wants to, as a man sometimes you see guys, other guys were motivated so much by women. And I don't know why. So you see this person on Friday night, he's going, these women surrounding him. So it comes from all that social pressure that we all want to get it so quick and so fast that we can't trust the process. Because we have to trust the process. It's a process and I think Florence, judging from her age, she'll tell us it's a process. And none of us wants to trust the process. Like when you say you want to trust the process. You want to trust the process. I do like to trust the process. Right now I want it. I'm seeing Florence or I'm seeing my friend who's made it. And you see we are an unlucky generation because we've come with social media. And in social media there is a lot of, not only pressure but a lot of lies with it. So today you wake up one morning and you see Makumogo has taken a picture with a car. It's a picture he has travelled to Dubai. You don't know why I've travelled. You don't know who has taken me there. But of course I'll say I've taken myself. And now I want to be where Makumogo is. So you'll ask me, Mark how did you get there? I'll tell you lies. So I think there's all that lies which have come with social media and it has put so much pressure on us that we don't want to hear there is a process. Because people of our age won't tell us there is a process. From what we see there doesn't seem to be any process. People are making it. Everyone is making it. Everyone is making it. So what process do I need to go through and everyone is making it? What is this process you're telling me? Okay Jackie do you want to take a look and you want to take a look at yourself? Of course not kumoka raka raka but you know it's quite hard. You know kumoka raka this success is a process. You know very many people define success differently. But one thing I know is that all these successful people have things in common. But looking at success from the quicker and safe perspective it's quite complex. I mean for success to be safe most of the time haikwangi quick. You see you have to wake up and be consistent with what you're doing alafulita uta kwa successful. And then tenokia una successia nini quick una pata c-safe most of the time. But we cannot dispute the fact that there is quick and safe success because they are used to a successful see they are used to a successful let's say lack inheritance. Yeah those people don't need to toil but if you need to work hard then I think it's it takes time. Alright. So Florence. So kumoka e tu being successful in life. Most of the young people want to kumoka being successful in life just very fast and especially badutunanga kumoka kwa safe. So from where you are seated and from where you are coming from Florence how possible is it? I will say it's not possible and I will start by saying this we all know that rum was not built in one day so if it was not built in one day there was a process. Number one the youth want to kumoka ya raka they know themselves. They don't know what they want in life. They want to live a life like they want to imitate somebody's life but if you really know what you want you need to know that there is a process I'm going to use a very practical example as a mother if you want to have a child you will not have a child ha raka you have to wait for nine months whether you like it or not whether you ataka ma udataka ni yi omie ziti salazima itikem toto so what the youth do not understand or what they don't want they don't want the process because number one, let me use this end with a lot of humility they are lazy, they don't want to work na ha kuna kitu kizudiki na tokanga na kuta on a silver plata ha kuna but then as a matayo inakuja you have to really think how do I stretch my hand and get it so there is still work you need to do so what this our young generation is looking for microwave issues things yani ni baton inakuja na hiyo nindoto tekin tawan biawazi, hiyo nindoto a kuna kitu eni na ito atacha kula wukiwe kakwa microwave unawacha kwanza ispindo ipaten ni ipaten moto so it is, they need to sit down and know unless they work hard unless they work hard ii vitu anataka kumoka a raka dui nawa ingiza kwa mashida na zileza kumoka a raka pumbisa matuna enda lakini kama unataka kumoka in the right way you have to be ready to work you have to be ready to sacrifice you have to be intentional in what you want you have to really know who you are what you want and where you are going otherwise utaising itua paka mavile utaising itu kwangaliawa kwa makagarizawe unawana mutu na de nani kazi ni ake na zileza kumoka anataka lakini haina and then i will say this success that i have made and journeyed has a lot of fulfillment and pride actually yata inheritance haina ii ya babayangu kwa ii vuli kwa ya mwenye mimi nataka mutu mwenye kwa fokus anataka kitwi ake nasi se mi musitu kwa inheritance ii oni baraka parans properties they start killing each other reason being they don't even know what they want hawa jawa ii fanya kazi gumu wale wata ututunadil na waskuizi ni wale yata kuhosha kikombeni shida kusabutuluwa aniki ya wa fanyi kazi kila kitu by the way tumewave kia hapo lakini kuna wale wana wa fanyi kazi but they still want to wash that cup they want to have that experience so i think even us who are now at a place whereby we are mentoring these youths we need also to let them work for themselves ukitaka kubadilisha diet kwangu na fukiti tuta debate uta letter kuna maiai letter sasaka mahauleti maiai wacha tu kule due to when then in your process ya tu patehiyo maiai lakini sii leya nili kitu umututuwa nataka unampatia somehow i blame us as parents because we've actually not taught these children i hear people saying i cannot bring my children the way i was brought up i wish i could what if the parent wants something better you can still give something better and still make this child learn from it it doesn't mean that kwa sa abu mimi nili lewa nakiboko nili azimani cha pemtotuwa ngundiwa elewe kuna vile naweza kwa kumukumpeleka lakini sii tamchapa lakini adnita achieve what i want but it has to be from the word go it has to be from the word go because our children are messing because kwa sa iyo jina kumomoka unajiwa mii sii kwa na juwani nini na kwa na sii kwa kumomoka na piriya tu na nda kumomoka kupa ni kwa nakupata ni ni ni kupata and there is no success without hard work let me give you a very simple example if you want to sleep nuna taku nila comfortabili na ujifunike sasa kwa apukutu umwajia ufunike siu taku luwa na umbuk luwa na baridi hutalala so hard work ok thank you floris so do you think like going back to Mark do you feel like as youth we are so much entitled like we feel like i want something and i should have it do you feel like we are so much entitled not necessarily and in fact and we have been labeled lazy by the way it's just that i wanted her to feel it and me what i can say and it's good you brought somebody more less of her generation over here because it helps because sometimes i feel there is a lot of misunderstanding between our generation and their generation because when they say we are lazy the youth are not lazy i mean if you watch i mean the youth are not really lazy i cannot label any young person as a lazy person and i think one thing because i have parents from her generation where sometimes we may disagree on things is that when my parents were 20s when my dad was like 20 the system when i say the system the government really catered a lot for them in that when he was 20s good grades got him a job and the government was able to train him he never had to look for a job again as in there was a lot of there was a bit more meritocracy in how you are rewarded but these days young people if you talk of unemployment right now how many people go to campus and are still unemployed the system doesn't cater for that it's more or less and me and you we both know that we've seen so many times that the people who get jobs are the ones with what we call godfathers people who have people to you need to know somebody you need to know somebody in a high place and you see now what happens is that me who doesn't know somebody for example and doesn't have a job i'll be labeled lazy probably let me use the term lazy for example but is able to get a job because of the godfather won't be looked at in the same way so i think there is a bit of a misunderstanding between generations in that within when they were our age the system really catered a lot for them and maybe for our generation the system has left the job to family, parents and all and you know sometimes there is a bit of a misunderstanding i don't think we are lazy or maybe some are entitled i don't know but i don't think it's good to generalize all of us so Jackie for you were growing up and did you did you explain the aspect of feeling entitled towards anything in your life have you seen people were entitled feeling like they are entitled towards anything they want in life yeah i've seen them and most of the time these people don't really make it in life yeah they don't because you really need to work you see if you inherit something or if you feel like you're entitled to something you become lazy you know that something is at your disposal and you're not going to put any extra effort to make whatever it is better you see so youth should just work hard if you don't work hard there is nothing that will come away and there is no success that is quick i mean what do you even mean by quick i mean for how long for you time gone i think if you come next week or next month it's okay next month quick as that that's next to impossible because you know some of the common things that successful people do is as much as people define success differently some of the common things that successful people do is add value to others or to something else you see if you wake up with a purpose of adding value to someone or something automatically you're going to help yourself like let's say if you realize that the people around you need food right and then you come up with something that will make them get food like plant crops or something you see you're adding value to them and you're also helping yourself and in the long run you're going to be successful so if you propose to you know add value to something even this thing that you feel that you're entitled to you're going to be successful but if you just sit there and you know tell yourself i have inheritance, my parents have these my future is sorted yeah you will languish in poverty