 You know, this is our opportunity to really center the stories and the wisdom of the indigenous here as you all know There is a whole track programming indigenous at SoCAP So please pay attention to that and we're going to continue to dig deeper into that conversation this afternoon with our next our next panel Which includes Lorda's Inga executive director of the international funders for indigenous peoples She is a social change agent When I asked her what was on her mind what was bringing her joy. She said hope You don't hear that much. And so I want to invite her to come to the stage. She's kawatcha Heritage and We honor whose land that we're standing on that we're sitting on that we're working on and so you all welcome Lorda's Inga to the stage here China Qing also joining us for this conversation as we continue to pull the thread to talk about what's next and Indigeneity and wisdom and and wellness and money China is the director of grant making for the Christiansen fund. She lives here in San Francisco native Hawaiian and You know indigenous Commitment to the well-being of all people into this land Please welcome her to the stage Yes Joanne Carling Indigenous activists who is from and still lives in the Philippines in Cordillera Philippines and there's so much to say about her but One of the things that I thought was beautiful is that she was just given a lifetime achievement award from the UN Empowerment program and that is a huge thing to applaud and to thank her for her work and Then we have the moderator Sean Paul who Really is just a brilliant social Entrepreneur and this fifth iteration of his brilliance. He is now the CEO of Ijido Verde Ijido means rural community and He lives in Michio Khan Mexico when I asked him about joy backstage He said pulling the thread from moving money at the intersection of nature and sustainable rural livelihoods and so he will be Sitting in space holding space this afternoon and we've done welcome you to this stage and welcome this information And this wisdom Thank you, okay Little technical difficulty here we're just going to go roll with it We did what we were preparing to share with you Was a video about indigenous people worldwide to give just a visual sense of we're here together really Celebrating and honoring our work as and with indigenous peoples working with finance and business and My name is Sean Paul I'm the CEO of a Mexican regenerative forestry company Ijido Verde where we are a partnership between rural Puerto Peta communities in Michoacan, Mexico and an industry that together provides Ingredients for the world made from pine resin that everyone uses every day everywhere And in that role I've really come to this work As a my professional career working quite intimately It's with solutions for it with a rural and indigenous communities and I'm really really honored and delighted by really highly distinguished and accomplished Panel that get really to share with all of you some of our work and perspectives advancing well-being together with indigenous communities and I'm hoping in lieu of The video that we had had prepared for you I'm hoping Joan could share with us a little bit about why what brings it together Why is the world and why are you getting the attention of the United Nations? To really look in a special way at the role and status of indigenous peoples Yeah, good afternoon to everyone. I Would like to start from my own experience and in the Philippines on why I became an indigenous activist in the first place Well, I was in college. There was a big project a dumb project that was Going to displace more than a hundred thousand of indigenous peoples and Also destroy thousands of hectares of rice fields and the forests and this is because of the construction of dams and I've seen how people are willing to give up their life To protect their own there the river because it's the source of their culture It's the source of their livelihoods. It's the source of their identity and from from there I also witnessed and and and joined demonstrations of mine mining communities because of the Pollution of the river from from the mining operations aside from you know the the risk that workers are Facing and including having low low salaries And and from from this it's very clear to me that that when we talk off of Protecting the environment we cannot isolate this from looking into the rights of these communities In in the face of this kind of investments that are actually not providing development for the people but Violating their rights and further marginalizing indigenous people. So that's that's why we need to bring This to the attention of the global community that that indigenous peoples are there protecting our environment But but are being thrown out Our their rights are violated their dignity is thrumpled Genocide and ethnocide are taking all over the place and this has to reach global attention And that is why the United Nations finally after more than 20 years of negotiations Adopted the UN declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples and if you look at the data now 60 to 80 percent of the Biodiversity of the world is in the in indigenous territories and this is not coincidental This is because indigenous peoples continue their stewardship role So that the future generation have something to to leave and leave on and if People are evicted from their land then that role and contribution will not continue So so this is the reason why we have to bring this to the global Attention especially now that we're talking of sustainable development, but sustainable development again for who So we need to be clear that it has to be on court on human rights It has to be on court on the protection of environment It has to be on court and the sustainability of the only planet that we live in Thank you It's really a privilege for me Joan has devoted her life and 30 years at the goal on the global stage not only is a grassroots activists But she has really got the attention of the world's leaders to really think differently Of how the world needs to be more inclusive of indigenous peoples that occupy that traditionally use an occupy about 60 percent of the earth's land surface and I just Wanted to China you've now in your role in grant making at the Christiansen Fund a family foundation, you know of seven years looking and working with indigenous people globally And I'm really hoping you can share a bit about your your own experience and a little respond to Joan's comments Well, I mean it's always an honor to be able to respond to John's comments But I first want to our our wonderful moderator Acknowledged that we're on indigenous territory, but I also just wanted to say from this incredible Place that we're sitting right now. We actually have this incredible ability to see the Territories of all the Aloni peoples in the Bay Area. So the Karkin the Chutoni the Ramatush the Rumson and the Mutsin and then to the north the coast me walk So just to acknowledge whose traditional territory we're all on and I also wanted to acknowledge so cap for For having this in indigenous track and I think also for broadening a conversation around Finance and investment and development But so we are actually a private foundation We were we have we've been around since 1957, but over the past 15 years we focused on Biocultural diversity and so anytime someone comes to work with us The first thing they have to learn is like what is biocultural diversity and essentially It's the relationship between people and place and it really goes to what Joanne was talking about in terms of Why do we have this remaining? Biodiversity in the world and that is not an accident that remaining biodiversity in the world comes because of Relationships and its relationships not only between plants and animals But it's also relationships of people to those places and the incredible knowledge That has evolved from that. So just as a story. I was in Central Asia last week and I Got on an airplane and it was 75 degrees which was Easily 15 degrees with warmer than it usually is at that time and 55 minutes later I got off an airplane and it was like 20 degrees and snowing Which was also very unusual So I think we can acknowledge that we're in this place where we have to start this thinking differently about all of our relationships to the earth and not just You know because of the beauty and all of the bouncy and the wisdom and the knowledge that comes in those relationships But I mean selfishly for our own survival We're in a place where we have to think differently about that and that includes all of our sectors So I think for us that's been a place that as philanthropy I think around the Investment we're in a different place around the grant-making side of things but trying to rethink economies and rethink economies Not just on traditional GDP, but really rethinking economies on relationships and how all of that all of that Relationship that happens between people in place we can use as redefining our well-being Thank you Lourdes You're currently our executive director of international funders for indigenous peoples at your heritage It's Ketua heritage from the central Andean region of Peru. Can you share with us a little bit your journey? to get to Peru to what you're doing today leading a international organization Sure. Thank you, Sean It's a real pleasure to be in the same space as you are in China and shown and with all of you here So, yeah, my name is Lourdes Singham director of international funders for indigenous peoples and my own journey is very personal If you're familiar with Latin America, it's a very much colonized region that includes Colonized minds including myself So the journey to really kind of embrace and actually own my heritage Took some time but I'm never the less very proud of Celebrating where I come from where my father's family comes from and so moving now to present day I direct The only global Philanthropy network that focuses on indigenous peoples We are really at the core of transforming funding relationships between Philanthropy and also impact investors like yourself and indigenous peoples to move to one of mutual understanding and respect and benefit and We do this through Core values core values that are very much rooted on indigenous values International funders for indigenous peoples a few years ago really Sort of launch But it's referred to as the four hours of the philanthropy, which is a respect Responsibility reciprocity and relationships and these are really values that as a network of funders We encourage our members to embrace and incorporate Not only in the practical sense on how do they actually do that in sort of their Grandgiving or the impact investing but really cannot own in it as members of a global community and then you know, I think these are values that are also very transferable and very Directly applicable to this audience as well When you're thinking of impact investments and partnerships with indigenous communities, you know These values should be at the center as well as Applying an indigenous rights lens to impact investing Now thank you One of the things we were talking about and preparing ourselves Here and I really think it's my belief as a participant at SoCAP for many years One of the things we're really looking at as a crisis of values We have good values of our last century that guided our economy that might be characterized in one way as Maximize short-time profits by any means possible and here you're offering another set of values of the four four hours Guiding how how funders are coming together? To move money in my work in Mexico at Hilo Verde with put a pitch out We think deeply into the value of reciprocity How are we moving money and investing in communities to restore degraded lands? And reciprocity for us is about what does it mean to be in value creating? relationships between individuals families communities our relationship with the earth investors industry and government and in my as a member of International funders for indigenous peoples I've seen this relationship of reciprocity come up in indigenous traditions around the world And I'm hoping you can share with me a bit in your view. How do you see? Might reciprocity value how we move money at the intersection of markets and meaning Yeah, let me just cite an example Where in a lot of the indigenous communities that I've visited The the reciprocity and and value of sharing can be seen from say we treat When we use the the forest we make sure that we don't cut so much trees That will affect the other wildlife or the watershed for example We use that but in return the forest is providing us what we need But we make sure that it it sustains the other one in terms of The sharing is when communities have surplus in their product in there for example fruit trees in the village They will get what they need and they put the rest of their harvest on the side of the road so that others can share that fruit What do we learn from that that what what we need what we get is what we need and Beyond what we need is what we share And and I think if we if we looked at in investing in that sense it may it's going beyond Selfishness it's going beyond not only thinking what can I get or what good do I do? But what kind of change and empowerment do I create and for me? I look at this as more a relationship of coast stewardship of Partnership that is based on making the other party as powerful as you are it's changing also the power dynamics Where respect for each other in a reciprocal way is built in into that kind of of of of partnership and and It's already clear like why are there still huge gaps in the implementation for example of the sustainable development goals Because there is no accompanying redistribution of wealth The gap of inequality remains the same wealth is still concentrated in the hands of the of the few it's not shared and That is because greed persists to be the dominating Value of a lot of people and if we don't look at the lens of indigenous peoples where Value is something that we share something that is based on solidarity and cooperation who will not get there And the challenge that we face now even if we're talking of social investing For example is how do we how can that change? The power relations how can we? Impact bring power to communities and not to disempower them By elevating their capacity to participate in decision-making through their economic empowerment So it's not enough to just build economic empowerment, but more so How are they participating in decision-making? That make sure that the wealth of the earth is shared that there is sustainability in When we pursue development that is shared by all so that is I think what we need to Consider or reflect upon John, I'm sorry. I want to just follow up on that and when we look at the challenges You also one of the things we've talked about our opportunities with all those challenges What are the solutions you're working on and I'm particularly interested in your the renewable energy partnership? That you've recently launched at the United Nations. Yes, the First of all we need to think that that indigenous peoples marginalized communities are not just victims They are actually development actors. We have our own skills We also have our knowledge to share and that's that that we are contributing So from the perspective of indigenous peoples there are already innovations for Sustainable resource management for food security, which we are providing to the world But now that we are also facing a crisis in the climate We need to also act together to provide solutions and indigenous peoples are very much committed to the transition from fossil fuel To renewable energy However, if we don't do it right like a lot of solar and with mill farms are still Violating our rights because we are being displaced We are not part of the decision-making that is this an appropriate form that will actually lead to To greater access of power if on the one hand we're actually causing the marginalization of indigenous peoples So we need to frame renewable energy from a rights perspective from a social equity perspective Because that is the way we can work together and find the solution It's a partnership that should be based on respect for rights Respect for our gender equality empowerment of community and sharing our resources and sharing the stewardship of The planet so that we can combat climate change But at the same time providing sustainable livelihoods and economic empowerment to women and Communities as we find the solution or act or provide the solution to climate change Give me one example of one of the projects in this initiative. What does it look like? Yes the one that we have in in Sabah, Malaysia is that the indigenous Experts that we have already on renewable energy are building appropriate Microhydro from you know recycling aluminum to To what is appropriate in the community and even combining this with solar because of the the nature of communities that And the weather when it's raining too too much then that it's a micro Hydro that works better and if there's so much sun then it's it's the solar and This you know in the community and this are community owned There and it has empowered women by providing them economic livelihood but also the independence that was brought by that and Enable them to participate in decision-making it has also highlighted the necessary Role of protecting watershed because it's the watershed providing water for the micro So that you see that we need to look at also How do we take care of the resources that provides this kind of off of energy that benefits? the communities as a whole so So that that's one example that that that I can I can share to you There's other examples of also communities in innovating on in terms of the food systems We provide a lot of indigenous varieties of seeds and now they're under threat because of climate change So we need to find ways and means on also how to how do we address food security of indigenous? Community so there are techniques using our traditional knowledge So there's actually and now a revival of traditional knowledge because through this we're able again to to To plant more of our indigenous varieties and transfer the knowledge to the next generation So that they can continue to do that role of providing not only food security for indigenous peoples But also for others in society So and he'd over there what we're seeing in terms of what is a some of the solutions look like building? transformative wealth for rural communities They're creating creating jobs in the community restoring the planet and they're in an integrated supply chain where industry is benefiting Investors are benefiting providing specialty ingredients to the world So we're working toward these win-win-win solutions China I'm wondering in your work. Have you been really working around the world with indigenous peoples? What do solutions look like the inner with investors in business and indigenous peoples? Thanks, you know so I Will be honest. I think that as a foundation, you know, you have this incredible luxury and privilege of of choosing the ways that You make grants and I think to be honest a lot of our work was around resisting capitalism So trying to help communities Maintain traditions, but I think our early way that we looked at about that was like how do you keep things out? And I think one of the big lessons that we've learned because I think this is to be completely honest I think it's a struggle, right? I think that that What capitalism has done is it's created our role it's changed it's changed our relationship to one of consumer if we're gonna talk about reciprocity, it's acknowledging that it's a relationship of relationships, which is different than being a consumer and So I think you know for us. I think we're actually still learning about that. I think probably in our work the acknowledgement of the role that economies play has Is I think we're probably behind on how we think about that But I will share for me what was my biggest breakthrough as someone who naturally does not Think in terms in likes in an economic Frameworks for better or worse. So for me one of the biggest breakthroughs was there's a community a Series of Maya communities in Belize who have been fighting to regain their territory for an incredibly long time like 16 years and The state had been doing extraction on their land. So all of their energy have been focused on how do we get our territory back? How do we get our territory back? How do we get our territory back? So they won the legal battle They got their territory back and immediately the first question for them was well What do we do about an economy because if we don't think about an economy? We're gonna be put in the same vulnerable situation what we'll have to lease our land for extraction So for me, this was a really interesting you know discussion and But what they did was they were also saying that they didn't necessarily need to also Transition to capitalist values. So what they said is they reframed economy One as a governance issue. So how are we using economies as a way to better? Have relationships and stewardship of our land and the second thing is they redefined profit as what keeps our community together Which for me has been really helpful in the way of trying to think about These opportunities that we have in in redefining relationships and actually actually defining economies as a series of relationships We have a less than a minute left Lord this I'm just hoping you might share briefly Are there some high-level work that you see happening among the members the international funders for indigenous people around solutions? The intersection of money and meaning Sure I think I mean, I think I started it when when they were asking me how to introduce myself and and Hope was very much in my mind because I'm just coming from having held our own conference in Santa Fe a couple of week a couple of weeks ago going to then to Mexico City to the human rights funders conference and then to another event and I think all throughout and including our members at international funders for indigenous peoples What I see is a sort of a real kind of Rethinking of philanthropy And I hope also this audience here impact investors of really Working with local initiatives Initiatives and solutions that are coming from the bottom up rather than from the top down Because I think those particularly those solutions that are coming from the bottom up Do address a lot of what's on people's mind in terms of real social change and transformation Not only for us as philanthropists or impact investors, but more more so For those communities that are trying to really transform their communities and ensure that their rights are Respected across the board regardless of who they are interacting with with the local governments or impact investors so the net I International Funders for indigenous peoples as a global community does you know create this space for our members to come together and Have conversations about not only how do you do this through a grand-making vehicle of giving but also, you know really rethinking how they're doing it also through Their you know total portfolio through impact investing and other ways of supporting Initiatives like the right energy partnership Thank you. We need to wrap up I want to first finally thank SoCAP for really shining light on innovations and opportunities to invest together with indigenous peoples I really want to thank our speakers from coming great distances to really come and share with us a glimpse of their wisdom on this topic on their passions will have more opportunities to speak with our guests Tonight at 6 30 at the impact hub clubhouse. You're all invited to a reception there Friday There are more panels including one at 11 o'clock with our panelists where I really invite you to consider Diving deeper in the topics we've shared with you right now. Thank you