 Hi, this is Debbie Daschinger. Welcome to Dare to Dream podcast. This show has won the C-O-V-R best radio and podcast show, is currently listed in a wealth magazine, is one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to, nominated for two people's choice podcast award, for a webby award, and one of the top podcasts in self-improvement and Apple podcasts. So excited a little bit later on, he's back. David Avocato-Wolf is here to talk about superfoods and the longevity multiverse with the latest health and personal development news and strategies. Today, I promise you, it's David. It's going to be cutting edge. This show is sponsored by Dr. Dane here in Access Consciousness. They do beautiful energy work out into the world. We thank them for that. If you'd like to become a facilitator or take one of their classes, go to Dr. Dane here, H-E-E-R.com or Access Consciousness.com. I'm Debbie Daschinger and I teach spiritual messengers how to write a book. I'm a bookwriting coach. You can do that with me through privates or through my ongoing bookwriting group. And you can find out more at DebbieDaschinger.com. I also take books to a guaranteed international bestseller once they're complete. And I do all the heavy lifting for the author. And the third thing I do is the ultimate visibility formula. I show you how to get interviewed on radio and podcasts and get massive results. I have a free gift for you so you can learn to become way more visible, which is exactly why you're here, and learn to do this big out into the world so people can find you, your being, and your business. And there's lots of templates and videos. Go to DebbieDaschinger.com slash gift. It's spelled D-E-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R.com slash gift. So indeed today I am speaking with David Avocado-Wolf, who's the rock star, the Indiana Jones of the Superfood and Longevity Multiverse, the world's top CEOs, ambassadors, celebrities, athletes, artists, and the real superheroes of this planet, moms. I'll look to David for expert advice in health, beauty, herbalism, nutrition, and chocolate. He is the visionary founder and president of the non-profit, The Fruit Tree, planting foundation charity with a mission to plant eight billion fruit nut and medicinal trees on planet earth. You can learn more, find him on Instagram at David Avocado-Wolf or his website at davidwolfolfe.com. And finally he'll be speaking February 2023 at the LA Conscious Life Expo and that link so you can get your tickets is in the show notes. And with that, I welcome the amazing David back to Dear to Dream. So good to have you here. Thanks for having me back. We're going to have a really good time coming up here this winter with the Conscious Life Expo. And it's great to see you. You look great. You look excited. And I know you've got some exciting things ahead for you. And 2023 is going to be a whole new year, a whole new time for all of us. And it's going to be a magical time. It's going to be a magical year. And you see that there's forces at work. We can see the big forces at work. And you can see the forces of evil. And you can see the forces are good. But as those forces of evil get bigger, the forces of good have to get bigger to balance it all out. So if you're on the good side, yeah, you're on the good side, you can get lifted up. And I have to say that in the last two, three years, that's what I felt. I felt like I've been getting lifted up, pushed up, like in the most miraculous ways, the most incredible things that have happened. And so I think it's a real positive, actually. Everything's in balance. And sometimes it swings this way and sometimes it swings that way. But if you're on the right side of history, you'll be pushed up. Yes, I love that you just said that. I'm so on this path with you, 100%. I know there's a lot of things going on that give people such concern. And I have compassion for that. I understand. I see it too. But my real feel on the pulse of this is that the underbelly, the ugly has to come up. It has to be revealed for the light to shine on and heal. It's the only way through. It's the only way through. It's like facing a drug addiction or something. You have to face it. You have to put light onto it. You have to acknowledge that it's there. And then you can figure out what to do and move forward. And it's just that that we're going through collectively as a human race. But if you're already not stuck in patterns like that, like addiction or patterns of escapism, or patterns of materialism, things are going to get really, I think, really good for us in the sense that we're going to be just pushed up. The forces of nature are working with us. They're working with the life force. And that's what we focus on, by the way, getting people tuned into the life force energy so that they can build vigorous health. As my teacher likes to say, health beyond danger. That's what we're working on. That's so interesting. I want to ask you this question when you say that because I have heard that ascension causes physical symptoms, literal physical symptoms, hair falling out, stomach issues. I talked to Daryl Anka about this a couple of weeks ago. And there's been a couple other experts who've been weighing in. And apparently there are patterns out there of people going through ascension who are having physical things happen, even heart things that have been like these weird anomalies. Is this a pattern that you've seen going on as well? Yeah, one of my favorite teachers is Rudolph Steiner. Rudolph Steiner was one of the most interesting philosophers of all of history. Just his book sitting back there in my bed, The Riddles of Philosophy. As a person, I spent five years in university getting essentially a philosophy degree. It was a political science degree. But really, it was philosophy. It was Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas, Kant, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, all those people. Just Steiner's grasp of that Western history of philosophy is absolutely incredible, let alone the other gifts that he gave us. And one of those gifts he gave us, one of the sentences that sticks out is higher consciousness and higher awareness is very toxic. Because you're in this avatar, you're in this vessel and you're just trying to take all the stuff in. It's a lot. It's a lot to take in. It's a toxic thing. So that's why we always have to work on the health, on the natural things. For example, getting outside, like here, we can get into the ocean. I'm in Hawaii, so I can get into the ocean every day, at least once a day. I can get buried in the sand. I can lay on the sand. I can get grounded once a day. I can build a fire outside. As soon as the storm passes us, we're going to do a nice little fire outside with all our wood and cardboard and things like that and get that energy. As long as you do those key things that are needed for health, like earth, air, fire and water, plus eating healthy, plus movement and exercise, then you can bring in more of the awareness. I'm a hyper learner, so sometimes I get so into that that I'm not moving much for a week or two. That's not healthy. Yeah, yeah. So your house, that's interesting. Last time you were on the show, we had this wild conversation about ayahuasca. You were telling me you had had some friends over and there was this huge storm and the ayahuasca trees were almost falling or they were creating some kind of havoc and you said, you took it as a sign like maybe I need to let those go. What happened to that? So what happened to that, this is amazing. So what happened was, is that way back in the jungle behind this property, at the very edge of, it's not even part of this property, it's actually just, it's kind of a no man's land out there, there was an ayahuasca vine. It's a vine that had been growing out there for years and years and I kind of coaxed it along and you know, it's probably been about a dozen years and 13 years and then Christmas Eve day or nights, Christmas Eve, actually Christmas Eve 2019, there was, all my friends are like, come on, let's just drink the ayahuasca and this and that. And I'm like, like, I'm not a shaman. I don't think I was supposed to serve it. I'm that's that, I'm not my role, this and that. Like, come on, you know, we had the shaman show up here at this house and brew and do a whole thing for 10 days and was a whole process and it's all been prayed over and everything. So I was like, let me just check in with the spirit. If the spirit gives me a yes, I'm going yes. If it's a no, I'm going no, but I got a yes. And I was like, okay, you know, just be the six of us will sit and do this. But as the night wore on like four or five in the morning, the winds really started kicking up really strongly outside. And we went outside and it's like, you know, at the end of an ayahuasca experience, it's nice to smoke a cigar. And so we're out there. Let's, you know, me and the guys, you know, who are there, just three gals and three, three guys and three gals. And the guys like, let's go outside to smoke a cigar, talk about, you know, what our experience was. But those two guys were still far out. And they were still in it. So I was like, well, you guys go back inside and, you know, get back into it. I'm going to stay out here. And the winds were just crazy. It was just this insane buildup. It was just like, what is going to happen? And then at the crescendo of it, there was a sound that occurred that I can't explain. I couldn't even tell you a similar sound. You know, maybe a building collapsing, something of that nature. It was tight. It was a tight tannic loud sound. And I was like, something really bad has happened. But it sounded to me like it came from the front yard. I go out into the front yard the next morning. There's nothing. I look at the whole place, nothing at all. I was like, oh, maybe I was just dreaming it up. Then later, a friend of mine goes, do you see what happened in the back? I was like, no. So right at that spot where the ayahuasca was growing, it's at the very edge of a cattle field over there. There was three trees literally ripped out of the ground. It was like a mini tornado type of event. And one of them had the ayahuasca on it. And that tree was ripped out of the ground and thrown down the hill. I just looked at it yesterday. It's still, you know, the ayahuasca doesn't mind. It's a vine. It could just vine over if it falls. It doesn't care. It wants to pull the trees down and climb all over the debris. And that thing has really become a powerhouse. And so after that, I was like, okay, I'm not serving this medicine anymore. The very night that we would do that, that that would happen was too much of a synchronicity for me. So I saved that for the Colombian shamans and the Peruvian shamans and the shamans from South America. That's their work. They serve it. You know, I can grow it, but they're there to serve it. I love that story. And I knew, of course, ayahuasca is a vine. I know it intimately as well, but I knew there was a tree in there. So I'm glad you told that whole story. And that's so powerful. That's so powerful. You ask for a sign, you get a yes, and then something completely different happens, which at least it stops you from doing it again. And what I really like about that story, your sensitivity to following that path, but also I do think it's very important that this is truly an indigenous past from one generation to another, very learned in the DNA kind of skill to serve, to brew, to serve, and to look over the people who are drinking, right? So they're safe and really have the optimal journey. So yeah, I was talking last night with some friends who were asking me about the ayahuasca experience. And I remember drinking one time in Peru with with a couple, they were a, they were a Shepibo couple and they were in, they were in their 80s, you know, 81, 82, 83 years of age, beautiful couple. And, and at one point my loss, my concentration, I started thinking about this girl and her bud and this and that. And now immediately he picked up on it and immediately he looked at me and I was like, oh no, I got caught. And then immediately I puked all the, you know, the bad energy, I guess out of, you know, it was off focus or whatever. And he got me and I was like, wow, you know, that's a real shaman. That's somebody who's really tuned in. He caught it immediately. And I was like, oh, he caught me. And then everything came out. Yeah, people don't realize who haven't done ayahuasca. It's actually a blessing. We actually are ready for that to happen. You can literally feel something bad inside of you that the water collects around and says, you don't need 90 years of therapy. We're going to get rid of this for you like that. Thank you. Done. That's what I love about is, is it is very therapeutic and in a real sense. And it's also a big part of it is integrating what you've learned through the process. And, and my cousin's here right now. So we've been talking a lot about those integrative experiences of things that have happened through the, in particular through ayahuasca but also through Native American church, which is, which is the peyote medicine and, and some of the other things. And just it's really about integrating like, okay, now I've learned this, I've seen these doors are all open. What do I want to, what do I want to do about it? You know, where do I want, how do I want these, these insights to maneuver and change my thoughts, words and deeds? I haven't done peyote yet. What is that like? What is the benefit? It's a little, okay. So the, the ayahuasca is a, is a tryptamine based. So to me, that's more serotonin based. And that means more brainy, more heady, maybe so more, a little bit more visual at times, both can be visual, but generally I'd say more visual. But the, the other side of it is the phenethylamine types of psychoactive compounds. And those are found in cacti, for example, psychoactive cacti, like wachuma or San Pedro and peyote in North America here. And because of, you know, I'm a North American and because I've had many Native American friends and because I have people who lead Native American church, I've been very fortunate enough to be introduced to the TP ceremony where you sit up at a TP and you drink that medicine all night. And it's very subtle, I would say in the beginning and builds up, builds up, builds up. It's not like ayahuasca with like all of a sudden 40 minutes later, you're like, okay, it's on, definitely on. It could go for hours and you're like, I don't know, you know, I don't know if anything's really happening. I'm just praying and you know, rattles and praying, doing the songs and whatever. And then after like four hours, you're like, okay, yeah, I think something's happening here now. So it's a slower build up. And it's, I would say a little bit more of the male energy, peyote is more of a male energy ayahuasca is more of a female energy. So it's a little bit more like grandfather and ayahuasca is a little bit more like grandmother. And is it psychoactive? Do you get and you get wisdom and can you can not necessarily though, that's important to say with ayahuasca, I'd say you're more guaranteed for a psychoactive experience with peyote, not necessarily you might have a kinesthetic or body feeling experience, but you may not get all the way to visions or all the way to communication with deeper parts of yourself or deeper parts of the cosmos, maybe sometimes you do not always. Okay. Well, so on another path, I understand that you had dairy intolerance growing up. And when you were 18, you stopped consuming it, you're getting on this path, trying different diets. And of course, here we are decades later. What is the diet or diet or what is the food plan that you follow today? Great. Thank you. I've been a vegetarian for 33 years now. So it's been a long time and not pescatarian, but vegetarian vegetarian, right? So like I've eaten eggs and cheese, but I don't eat meat. I don't eat anything that involves killing. If it involves killing something, I'm not, I'm not going to have that in my diet. So that's just my personal ethics. That's what I'm into. That's just me. I don't think that's right for everybody, but it's definitely right for me. And I'm glad that those options were shown to me. I spent many years as a raw vegan. I spent 17 and a half years as a raw foodist. And that was all great. And, you know, I'm so glad for those experiences. But at the age I'm at now, I really like where I'm at with it. And I like being able to take Ulu, for example, breadfruit here in Hawaii and being able to make a dough out of it. And you can make pancakes out of it, stuff like that. It's really kind of fun. It's all homemade. So generally, I found with dairy, let's talk about that, that I was really allergic to domesticated animal dairy products. If it's wild buffalo, buffalo cheese, I don't have any problem. My body digested easily. I didn't know that it took me many years to find this out. If it's, you know, something that's grown in a commercial factory farmed egg or something like that, my body just instantly reject that. But if it's a local thing, you know, or eggs from the front yard, no problem. I don't have any problem with that at all. So that's interesting is that I think a lot of our intolerances and definitely my dairy intolerance was due to domesticated animals consuming the dairy of domesticated animals. I assume it's probably similar with meat. If somebody's a meat eater, that you really want like wild animal, not domesticated animal. And in Native American church, by the way, like for example, we do the corn meat berries. I don't do the meat, but I do the corn and the berries in the morning after the teepee. The meat is always like bison. That's bison meat. It's not domesticated cow, which is a totally different phenomenon. So that's been a big discovery I think in my life. I've suspected it for a long time, but I suspect that what's going on with most people's food intolerances is the heavy spraying on that food, the chemical glyphosate, actrazine, the things that are done to the wheat, for example, just to keep it standing up after it's been sprayed 20 times in the season. You know, all of that stuff is really, and then it's homogenized and mixed together. So it's all chemicals. It's all homogenized. It's all mixed together. Then it's fed to those domesticated animals. Not a good picture. And it takes us very far away from where we want to be, which is eating directly from nature, wild food, food from our garden, food from trees that we've planted, food from wild trees that are out there, that kind of thing. Interesting. You know, I'm thank you for addressing that. So I don't do dairy. I can't. And as a singer, it's the worst thing I can do. I'll lose all my high notes, even interviewing you. I'll get coated. But here's something very interesting, and I'd love your take on this. I find, even though I've switched to almond and or coconut milk, and I do like caliphia, nut pods, and that's what I have in my coffee in the morning. But I still have a problem with coated throne. I've been muscle tested with them, shows my body likes them. What is up with the coating? Interesting. Well, it's some kind of a reaction. Now, there are things about like, say, for example, let's say oat milk, for example, is still relatively, it still relatively has a high amount of that gluey material in it, that gluey protein in it. And that, by the way, is the reason why you see things like, you know, on, you know, with milk, you know, like on the Elmer's glue, and I always had a cow on there, because cow also that milk has a lot of gluey debris in it. And so it sticks. It sticks to everything. So what my recommendation is, you know, switch it out to something like, you know, something like out of the box, maybe try a coconut oil or in your coffee, or maybe try a, you know, do you can you consume ghee? Or does ghee give you that problem? The protein fraction out the 10% protein that's in butter, that's out. So the allergies come way down. Like I can consume ghee, I don't do it very often, but I can consume it. But especially if it was like a bison ghee or camel ghee, where it's the cooked off the protein fraction, it's just a wild animals, the oil that basically the cholesterol of their milk, that's really what it is. You know, we hear this, all this bad stuff about cholesterol, but when you've been a vegetarian vegan, as long as I have, you need a little bit of cholesterol in your diet, you can't have zero. And so I get that from, you know, maybe ghee a little bit here and there. And the wild stuff where the protein fraction is out is better, definitely better. And I know from my reaction, like I don't react to it. But if I had any cow, anything in my body, my body's going to react, even sometimes even goat. Yeah, if the goats are domesticated, they're eating too much food that's, you know, fed to them unless they're eating wild stuff, I'll have I'll react to that too. Interesting. I recently tried goat butter and I thought it was exquisite, really like amazing. And I love ghee. It sounds like the coffee might be a little gamey tasting, but maybe it's worth a try. It's worth a try. And just for everyone who's new to this idea of adding oil to coffee, this is a really good way to kind of slow and buffer the effects of the stimulants. So it stretches it out actually so that you get a little bit more out of your coffee. So if you like your coffee bitter and dark, and you put a little bit of oil in it, it's I think a better way to do it personally. Yeah, I've done that before like with MCT oil, and it's pretty delicious. I mean, you think you feel like you have cream in your coffee. It's strange, but there's none. Yes. All right. And, you know, I know that you're all about a cleanse and upcoming cleanse right now. And you say as part of upgrading our operating systems to successfully deal with the shift we've been talking about in this error, what kind of cleanse are you talking about? Okay. So what we do, I've worked this out over 30 years, you know, I've been at this 30 years as a professional, my teachers in the very beginning, they're like, do you think it's about diet now or, you know, your vegan stuff or your vegetarian stuff or superfoods or whatever. But let me tell you in the future, you're going to be, it's going to be about cleansing and detox because we're in a toxic world. You know, it's in our air food and water and you'll find out eventually. And I already knew at that time that that would probably be my destiny and my teachers were right. They taught me correctly. So all these years later, we've worked out essentially it's a three week process. And really, if you follow that out, it's a 31 and a half day process. First week, we go to one solid meal a day. So people who've done juice fast and stuff, don't jump ahead. Just go with what we're doing. And every single day we're bringing our calories down. So we're going vegan and we're going lower and lower in calories throughout the day. We're having one solid meal. And so we're getting used to just one solid meal, right? You can have juices, you want soup, you want liquids, you want water, fine. But all through that week, the calories come down. The second week, we do all liquids. It could be soups, it can be juices, it can be blended stuff, smoothies. But again, you're bringing your calories down through that whole week, the second whole week. Now, on the by the time we get to the third week on day 15, you can kick that off and say, you know what? I'm going to stay with the juice fasting and I'm going to just juice feast for another week or 10 days or months. We haven't had people do months or even 180 days from that point on. But what I generally do is I go to a water fast. So anybody who wants to follow me in a water fast, you're definitely welcome to do that. And I've done about, I think this is going to be my 15th or 16th in the last, since 2018, of long water fast, seven days, eight days, nine days, 10 days, 11 days, 12 days, that kind of a thing. And but you can just do one day, you know, that maybe you're like, Hey, I want to try to do one day of water fast. Maybe you've never done it before. Okay, great. We'll get you doing one day. And you know, you meet that can be day 15 or day 16 somewhere in there. Then you can go back to the juices. But we're all together in a group. So we're communicating with each other daily. So it's not like we just like, here, throw this out. Okay, we'll check in with you in a week. It's minute to minute, it's moment to moment through a chat group. And that is, so people are on their phones. It's super fun. I love it. How can they do it with you? Where do they go? If you could track it down, you could just go to DavidWolfe.com, W-O-L-F-E, and you could track down my, actually what you want to just, let me give you a better one. FrequencyLifestyle.org. FrequencyLifestyle.org. That always has the cleanse right at the top, so it's easy to see. FrequencyLifestyle.org for folks who don't see that, that sounds great. And then you can sign up there. Cool. Wow. You're gonna be a clean person. It's really nice to be clean. I did have a doctor in Palm Springs, Palm Desert, actually look at my fat, you know, for a stem cell thing, he'd put a little rod in there, pulled some fat out of this side, put a little rod in here, pulled some fat out of this side, and he showed it to me. He's like, your fat is healthy. This is rare that I see anything like this, especially at your age. It was vital. I could see it, like the fat was glowing and vital. I was like, oh, good, that's a good sign. That's a sign that the cleansing, all these years of cleansing is working. Because, you know, you can like, you know, I'd love to have, you know, more brown in here, and I don't dye my hair. But in my 50s, you know, I'm doing pretty good. But internally, I'm doing phenomenal. I mean, you know, like, I feel like I'm 16 years old, like yesterday, I was out with a machete with my friends, you know, I'm keeping up with 30 year olds. And I'm, you know, I'm actually, when it comes to yard work and farming, I can easily outpace anybody who's half my age, but works out in the gym every day, no problem. That's incredible. I remember those tests they used to do on TV, they would take somebody from an audience and a doctor would give a test and say, your actual age is X, but your internal age is 90 and was often shocking. I know, you'd be like, oh my God, look at them. Like, you know, and it's good to know that and it really get a doctor's opinion. They're doing five to 10 of those every day for years. So when they're like, look, your fat looks really good, man. Like, check this out and they're showing it to me. I was like, oh, good. Okay, great. So it's just proof that, see, it's okay to have some fat because you need some reserves. You have, you know, that's, this is every pregnant woman is told this, you know, you don't want to be too skinny. You have to have some reserves, but you want that fat to be healthy. You want that fat to be, actually, this is the craziest statement. I make a crazy statement. It's super obvious and you can meditate on it for many years and come to the truth of it. The best food for your body by far is your own fat. Which, which means what? In a cleanse, you live off of it? Uh-huh. Yeah. Your body stores fat for you, for your metabolism, for your consciousness, for your, your own unique frequency signature. It will store energy for you. Think about that. And so I've really learned that through the years and years of cleansing, decades of cleansing. It's like, my body puts on a certain level of fat. And, and that fat is perfect. When I get to the day five, say, of a water fast and I can feel that fat melting off. I'm like, Oh my God, this is the perfect energy source. I feel so good. I'm like, you know, in early on, it's dirty. The fat's dirty. You're washing out chemicals, the chemicals, the chemicals, the environment's tough in the beginning. But once you get past that and you get to clean, healthy tissue and clean, healthy muscle and fat, then when you're burning off that fat, you're like, wow, this, I mean, you're even for days. And you're just like, we haven't eaten in a week. And you're like, you get up in the morning, it's four in the morning. You just plow through the whole day. Next thing you know, it's three at night. And you're like, okay, let me sleep for an hour and then you back up again. That to me is why I keep doing it. It brings out a, an ability to work harder to go deeper to read the books that I don't have time to read. And I assume then you have a protocol to bring people back out. Yes, right. So that's the other piece. I'm glad you asked that. So what happens is, let's just say we did it like the way I'm going to do it, which is you do a week, one meal a day, you do a week of all liquids, again, bringing your calories down that entire time. And then day 15 rolls around, you're like, okay, let me just try the water for one day. What'll end up happening is we'll go through, let's say a week on water, you can't just go back to burgers or bread or, you know, my God, you can't do that, you have to go back the way you came at half the speed. So for example, let's say you were water fasting for a week. And before that, you were doing juicing for a week. Well, for three and a half days after the water fast, you go back to juicing, then you go to three and a half days with just one meal a day. See what I'm saying, you work your way back the way you came in, but half as long. And then by around 31 and a half days, it takes about 10 and a half days to come fully out of the water fast. Then you can start going, okay, I can eat this again, I can have that again, you gradually can get back to eating what you're normally eating, but hopefully with some changes that you learned. With your one week, one meal a day, are you still having any kind of snack or liquids in between? You can have liquids, but what we're doing, see, this is good, I'm glad you asked that too, what we're doing is we're working on a habit that people have of reaching for stuff and eating stuff. See, when you start to get into a cleanse, you can't just reach and suddenly go, oh, chips, oh, chips, oh, you can't do that. You have to liquefy it before it goes in. Or you save it for that one meal a day. So we're immediately working initially, especially in the first week, on the impulse eating, right? Oh, can't eat that. That's not a solid meal. My solid meal is going to be a dinner tonight or my solid meal already happened at lunch. I've got to liquefy that. Let me go get some liquids and then you start to go, you know what, let me just tune into my nourishment coming from juices. Let me just tune into my nourishment coming from, you settle your whole consciousness on that. And eventually you go, let me just settle on my whole consciousness on, I'm lucky I get to drink water. And when you get there in the water fast, you're like, because there when you get deep into the water fast, especially for me, I'm an old timer at this, I get deep into dry fasting where no food or water. And then, you know, at some point I go, wait a second, it's, you know, it's three o'clock in the morning, I can have some water. What am I thinking? I'll just drink some water. One of my very favorite things is a heavy metal detox smoothie. Oh my God, this is so beautiful from the medical medium. It's a great recipe. And it's so funny because it's something I used to never engage in. I used to think, no, it's got fruit in it. I can't do fruit, the juice has too much sugar. Like I had all this stuff, it's amazing how much I've let go of. And what I know when I take it in, it's work. It's work to do this. It's a lot to put in a blender. And I add my own stuff. I put spring mix in there and cilantro and stuff. But I have to say that my body is such a huge yum. Every time I do it, it feels so good. You know, I, there's definitely a cleansing that goes on that day. And really, if I can start every morning that way, it's beautiful. It's such a, a hummy way. Like my body hums. I love hearing that. And that's what'll happen for everybody. You know, if you're listening, you're like, oh man, I need to drink some vegetable juice. Oh my God, I need, you know, this is the time you're going to get to do that. One thing I notice for sure, every time I do a cleanses, how little water I'm drinking when I should be drinking a lot more, because when you're cleansing, you drink a lot more water and you're like, how come I'm not drinking this water all the time? You realize it. It's true. Tea, coffee, food, everything takes the place. You're busy. And it's true. Yeah, I think about that a lot too. And I want to talk a little bit about stress too, because there's this really interesting quote from Harry Johnson, which says, the human body has been designed to resist an infinite number of changes and attacks brought about by its environment. And the secret of good health lies in successful adjustment to changing stresses on the body. So do you have guaranteed hacks that work for stress? Well, the number one thing that I would recommend is when you have a lot going on in your head, you need to get into your body. So you need to go out and run or walk. You need to get out to the park. You need to get barefoot on the sand. You need to go swimming in the ocean. You need to go into cold water to shut this off, right? Because almost what I've learned about health is that it's all mental. It's all mental stress too, right? Like one, it's this easy to tell. We can go to one person, go, let's see what you do every day and what your stress level is. And another person looking at that goes, my God, that would kill me. You know what I'm saying? And so you can just see how people can adapt because of the way they've positioned themselves mentally. So when there's too much going on up here, we immediately do things that embody, that get people back into their body. And for example, farm work for me is a great way to do that. I'm out there, I'm swinging off the side of a cliff, I'm swinging my machete. I can't be thinking about payroll or, you know, what is some other thing? I can't be thinking about that stuff because I'm in the middle of doing that. And when I break for when I go, hey, guys, I'm going out to the yard for two hours. I don't have my phone. I give myself that time. I measure that out because I know my personality and a lot of people, you know your personality. If you bring your phone with you, you'll get dragged into the phone while you're out walking your dog or out at the park or out in the forest or whatever you're doing. Really important to know that about yourself. I take a clean break from it. But the other part of it is when you're too much in your body and you're not using your mind enough, then you need to actually do some some head work, right? And you need to sit down and really goal set, set your disciplines down. Like I'm going to do these every day. So there's different types of people. So there's people who are super heady and they need to get in their body more. And then there's people who are super like physical, right? But they don't do enough mental work. And those people need just a little bit more discipline. Like, okay, let me set up my six tasks for the day. Let me set up what my goals are for the year, that kind of work. And so it just depends on where you are. But stress is definitely a it's a learned thing. One person's stress is another person's happiness. Interesting. That's so true. That is so true. And so I hear you saying just switch up the environment, do something physical, so cold, it could even be a cold shower. Cold shower. I do that every morning. If I wake up, you know, maybe have you ever noticed that as time has gone on with your age, right? You start going, I started getting up groggy. And I'm like, this is terrible. So I do a cold shower. Because once I get in that shower, I'm like, you know, I'm just totally in it. Okay, now I'm awake. Okay, now, you know, that's better than coffee, I think actually for me, but my body type definitely better. Oh, that's hilarious. You know, every so often something pops into my sphere. And like, I just get an energetic read on it. And I'm, uh, yep, I'm going to go to that. I'm going to buy that. And I was looking for something recently. And then this, I don't know if I'm going to say it right. Gynostema. Ah, Gynostema. Interesting. You bring that one up. Yeah. And then it's got another name with a J, J-I-A-O-G-U-L-A-M. Jiao Gulan is the, is the Chinese name of it. Jiao Gulan. Yes. Because of this longevity property. So yeah, I bought, felt, I got my body went, uh-huh, please. And I bought that. And I just started taking this. Are you aware of it? Tell me, tell me about it. Okay. So this is one of the things that I think makes me different. You know, this is the Indiana Jones side of me. It's interesting how these archetypes, we get those archetypes as a kid and somehow we come into embody them. But I've actually not only, you know, put the herbs out there into the world and the superfoods and that kind of thing. I've grown them. I've hunted them down in the wild. I've spent years as a wild food forager. I've spent years hunting down the greatest superfoods of all different countries all over the world. And Jiao Gulan is very highly ranked for me. So when I got to Texas, you know, I moved everything out of California, I moved to all the Texas. And I went, and I did that because in 2008 when that crash happened, I was like, the next time this happens, I'm going to go to a place where it's booming rather than busting. And so I did it. I actually, it was a tough year, really pull everything together, move everything somewhere else. It was a tough experience. But I got there, you know, and what ended up happening is I was like, what's going to grow here? What can we grow here? Because we're in this, this wood lot, you know, it's like five and a half acres, thousand trees, really wild in Texas. You know, when you get to East Texas, some in East Texas, north of Houston, it's way different than you think. It's forested. Anyway, we started growing Jiao Gulan. We started growing Gynostema. And so every single day I see it, it's right next to, I have these two raised bed gardens that are right next to my parking lot. And, and they're there. And they, and they droop out and hang down. And then we come up and we eat the leaves off of it. This was noted by the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which began in the 1950s, to really analyze all the Chinese herbs scientifically. Like, you know, are there people living longer? Because these herbs, who are they? Where are they from? And they found that Jiao Gulan was always the top hundred in Chinese medicine, Gynostema, but suddenly started showing up as number one for longevity in the region where it comes from, where people actually consume it, which is South Central China, an area that's very well known for its tea, right? A lot of the pu'er teas come from that same region. It's really, it's kind of a similar environment to, I would say, Texas. You know, it's, it's, it does a little bit of a frost in the winter, but not too much. And mostly you have, you have the heat of the summer and that kind of a thing. And good weather. At any rate, Jiao Gulan became a pick for me. And I've been consuming it as a tea and I've been consuming it raw a lot. And I always try to get at least every day, I try to get one Jiao Gulan leaf in because they're, they're, they're like usually five fingered and they're kind of like they look like, you know, a grape leaf or something. And they're pretty strong, pretty, just one single leaf strong. What does it taste like? It tastes very herb boy. It's, ah, Jesus, tough to say. It's sweet on the back end. So there's a back end sweetness to it. And that can be bred and brought out of Gynostema. It can be used as a non glycemic sweetener. But in terms of the great medicinal properties, like the ginsensides, which are saponins that are in ginseng, let's, I think there's 20, 20 of them or something in ginseng. In Gynostema, there's 120. So it's just like, for ginseng, you have to wait 13 years. You have to do all this. It's like, who's doing that? No, he's doing that. So ginseng, you just grow it like you're growing lettuce and you could just eat it and throw in your tea. It's just easy. So that's kind of, that's kind of how I do it is I work with the herbs from a very hands-on type of approach. Gynostema is a big one. That's, that's really fun. A herb I got into from ayahuasca is tobacco. And that's been a fascinating, the genetics of tobacco is absolutely fascinating. And that's a whole story. It's, you know, kind of off topic. But when the, when, if anybody is listening, if you ever go into any kind of a ceremony and they're passing the piece pipe around or, you know, the tobacco, it's, you know, we're not talking about chemicalized cigarettes, which are terrible, 800 additives, 4,000 chemicals. You don't want any of that stuff. But if it's real tobacco that you grew yourself or came from, you know, shaman in the Amazon is like, this guy grew this stuff himself. That's a totally different story because it doesn't have the 4,000 or the 8,000, sorry, 800 chemicals, 4,000 additives. It's the real stuff. And so I got into, really into the genetics of tobacco. I've grown many different types of tobacco over 20 years, just as a hobby and just fun hobby. It's so cool. Yeah. It's really interesting when you really get your hands into it. So I, I'm a plant person, as you could probably have guessed. And, and that means to me, I'm like, I'm going to take every opportunity I can to grow all of it. If, you know, if we're going to talk about potty arco, I've got epic potty arco trees in this property that I grew from a seed that are now as big as this house, bigger than this house. Wow. Incredible. Makes you want to be there with you. Um, so when you say the tobacco, are you talking about raw pay or and raw pay, or is it specifically just for pipe, for peace pipe? Well, there's different, there's different ceremony strategies. Now, if you started out in North America natives, North American natives had nicotine on a rustica and certain other wild tobaccos that were native to North America. And they didn't have the tobacco, which is the large leaf tobacco that was brought by, I think John Ralph, he brought it into the Virginia colony. And then they started growing the Caribbean tobacco or Orinoco tobacco in North America and changed the whole concept of tobacco in North America. Because before that, it had always been rustica tobacco, which is much stronger. And you have to kind of parse it up and make a canikinik out of it in the sense like you can't just smoke it straight. It's too strong. So you put other herbs in it, and you smoke it as a, what's in North America, we call canikinix, which are smoking mixes. That was a common way of using tobacco in North America, smoking it through canikinix. You go into this great civilizations of Central America, and you have like the Mayans, for example, most of the Mayan workers chewed the tobacco and only smoked it on holidays and only the royalty smoked it regularly in Central American civilizations. As you go into South America, you see that they were smoking it. They were snuffing it, which is rapé, and or they were creating chas out of it. They were consuming it by sucking on it. And you see all of those different strategies employed in South America, which is probably where tobacco is from. But the snuffs to me that, you know, the rapé, especially when you sit in a ceremony and somebody goes, okay, I'm going to hit this side. You know, you get blast on that side, then you do the other side. That to me is really my favorite personally of way of doing it. And it's a great way, like, you know, like four in the afternoon, you're like, let's get a reset. And one of the gals, you know, I have a farm in Canada, and one of the gals lives on the other side of the farm. She loves doing the rapé. So I go over there. She comes over at like four in the afternoon. She's like, okay, you ready? I'm like, okay. So we sit, we do a prayer, we meditate, and then we do the rapé. And then we go back to work. Oh, my God, really powerful. Yes, yes. We have about 10 different kinds of hapé or rapé here and all sourced from different places around the world and all different strengths and modalities. Like you could literally feel it when it goes in your body. And we just recently went to Porangui. I don't know if you're familiar with him, the musician. Oh, Porangui. I know Porangui very well. Is he going to be a conscious life? Do you know? He's not, but he was just here in LA. We went to his concert. I mean, we were right there, stage, Porangui, us, bam, unbelievable. I mean, the fact that he does what he does in real time. There is no music. There's no sheet music. He is creating and channeling. It is so beautiful. We moved the whole night. And yeah, when we needed a bump, because it was a late night, we did a little rapé. And we make sure to have our tissues with us, because rapé inherently, you let go of everything in the sinus, too, afterwards. Yeah, it comes out. It's really interesting, too, to hit the tobacco right up there, that blood brain barrier you have, the crib reform plate right there in the inside of your nasal cavity. It's fascinating system that they worked out. And again, I think it's the best. I mean, smoking, you always have some tar and you're like, you know, those mouth stuff. You're like, what? And then you have the idea of chewing, and I'm like, I don't know about it. And I'm not coming from Alabama. I'm not going to be chewing tobacco and spitting it out kind of thing. No way. So the rapé just is nice and clean. And it also leaves a nice after effect. Did put you into that glow. And it's really cool. Yeah. But is there ever too much? That's my question. And I agree with you. I love smoking a cigar, but the next morning I wake up and I'm like, oh, like an army marched through my mouth. But I love it at the moment. A good glass of wine, you know, a cigar. But I have to say the rapé, should somebody be conscious of how much they do it? Or is it like sky's the limit whenever? I think three times a day is if you're really working hard. And let's say you're a worker and you got to do a lot of physical and mental work. So you're working in a warehouse, you're making stuff all day. Three times a day is kind of a maximum. If you're doing more than three rapés a day, I would say that you could be heading towards abuse. For me, it's one time a day for me to do two a day would be very unusual. You know, maybe if I was at an all night festival, and you know, earlier in the day before I did it, and then next thing, you know, was three and three and three at night, a burning man or something was like, let's do a rapé, boo boo. Maybe I could do it there. But generally, for me, I'm, I'm a one time a day maximum. And even then I can go months or even years of not doing it. And then suddenly I got back into it for a month or two, and then, you know, get back into something else. And I really recommend for people have addictive personalities to really start bringing those ideas in more where if you're going to do like any kind of tobacco, you know, people come off of these really hard drugs that come onto tobacco and sugar and coffee, basically. You know, you can't keep those abusive patterns. Just get out of the idea of abusing yourself. And sure, you could do a rapé. Great. But just one, you know, go easy on yourself. Moderation, moderation. Yeah. I'd like you to talk a little bit about what might be beneficial for arthritis. I have read, I've done some research and the one thing I was able to unearth is Mediterranean could be very beneficial. But I'd love to get your input. I like Mediterranean diet. It's okay. So let's just take this down from again, Rudolph Steiner. We talked about Rudolph Steiner, I think before the show got started. And Rudolph Steiner had this idea that people who tend to be very, you know, like disciplined type A personalities, you know, we're going to bounce checkbook, we're going to get the bills paid. We're going to do all this 10 towards calcification diseases, which is like arthritis is a calcification disease. And therefore need the other counterbalancing forces, forces of escapism to balance the inner workings of the things that cause the accretion of calcification or hardening of the tissue. Okay, so people who tend to be workaholics, we're going to get the job done, we're, you know, nine to five, you know, that that kind of stuff. Is that you? It's generally what's going to happen is, is that it's going to cause a calcification problem of the heart or the brain or the joints. And that's what the arthritis is about, right? You're getting bursitis, you're basically getting crystalline growths into your, into your joint tissue. And so first comes the, the overall mental picture of it all. So that's, that's that piece from a spiritual picture, it's more, you're, you're too embodied, right? You're so embodied, you're so on the earth that eventually starting to have crystallizations of earth in you, you're having development of crystallization. Okay. So a key thing there is, is making sure that you are also in connection to the living earth, and you're not just a rock. So that means the movement on the over on the movement, yoga movement in particular, grounded to the earth. So let's say you're in a park, like do the yoga on the grass where, so the energies can move from the earth through you. So you're not a rock, you're, you're in movement. And then, so we know, for example, with pain, and let's say the pain of, let's say it's a knee joint or something. If you can get your feet on the ground with that knee joint, within an hour, the pain will generally be gone or almost gone within 90 minutes, it'll be gone. If you have knee pain, because you're connected to the earth itself, you're electrically connected to the earth itself, there's a direct skin to skin connection. Okay. So I hear you saying earthing, right? So that's, or that's the earthing piece, yeah. On the bottom of the shoes, let your feet, fingers, all of it plant directly into the earth so that energy can be transmitted through you. And what else can be done? I mean, this is, I've never heard anybody say what you're saying right now. This is huge. Topically, DMSO and sulfur. So one of the big game changing supplements that's ever happened is MSM, methyl sulfonyl methane. I have it. And you have it. So I would take, you know, especially, you know, if you're going through like, you know, healing process, really I recommend that people uptake 5,000 milligrams of vitamin C and 5,000 milligrams of MSM. You have to work up to that. You can't just go, okay, today I'm, you know, out is from zero to 5,000 is too much in one day. Go to zero to 500 or 1,000 milligrams of both those vitamin C and MSM. As an addition to your diet, as an addition to a healthy diet that you're eating, you know, you got to make sure you have sprouts and you got to make sure you're having salads and you got to have, make sure you're having the right protein for you and the right fats and oils and no canola oil and all that stuff. But the additional stuff, I would say the vitamin C, MSM combination of the sulfur is antagonistic to calcification. And so it alone, especially if you can get it there topically, that's what DMSO is able to do. DMSO2 with an extra oxygen on it is actually MSM, methyl sulfonolmethane, right? So it's MSM is a form, it's a crystallized form of the liquid DMSO. What I love about DMSO is you can target it directly to the tissue. Now we are, when I get to the Conscious Life Expo, I'm going to be with a friend of mine there and him and I've been working on getting a product out that's called, that's a carbon 60 and glycerin spray and spray. I've seen some great, you know, that's a product I'm going to be really hitting heavy, heavy, heavy at the event because that stuff is straight up one of the most miraculous products I've ever seen. So for example, let's just say like gout, okay? So gouts are crystallization kind of an arthritic kind of a situation and gouts generally caused by, you know, eating too much sugar, not moving around enough, it hits when the, when the heat hits of summers usually when it hits. What can you do? Well, one of the things you've got to do is got to get moving, got to get your body cooled off, maybe cold showers and, you know, the things that are naturally antagonistic to gout, movement and cold generally are antagonistic to gout and, you know, changing your diet, so you're not, you're actually getting no synthetic oils or processed oils and, you know, fake salt and you get the real salt, all that stuff. But the key thing is that this, this stuff, one bottle can stop gout and I've never seen anything like that, ever, have nothing, nothing, nothing. If somebody has a real bad gout outbreak or let's say, let's say it's a, another arthritic thing, I always recommend hot caster packs because caster is able to penetrate caster. So when I say caster pack, I mean you soak an old linen, like an old piece of cloth and you soak that into the caster oil and then you put that on the skin and you put a piece of plastic over it and then you put a hot water bottle on top of that. So you're using the plastic to separate the oil from getting all over your hot water bottle and with a lot of heat and you try to get that into your hip or your knee or wherever the problem is and that's really good at dissolving like DMSO, dissolving those crystals. But this carbon-60 spray is like a whole nother level of any, I've never seen anything like it. It's, and you're not, it's like, it's not a DMSO, DMSO is a solvent, it goes through your skin. The carbon-60, it's like, how's it penetrating on to the joint and doing this exactly? But it does, it gets all the way into the joint and shuts off the inflammatory markers and for you actually, if I was with you, let's say you have your hip thing going on, I would immediately take an entire bottle of carbon spray and say, use this entire bottle up in like five days, just spray it 10 times every day right on that spot and you might be surprised to actually buy what happens because it creates nucleation sites, carbon nucleation sites. So it's not only wiping out the inflammatory response, but it's creating new tissue nucleation sites. New tissue nucleation sites. That's the only way I can describe it. It's basically like if the tissue is damaged, your, the structure and skeleton of your whole body is carbon. And for whatever reason, the carbon-60 molecules are able to reset that skeleton in an area that's been damaged and reorganize it. So for example, with a gout, you're like, this is going to be months. Oh my God, you don't even have to do caster packs. What am I going to do? Within a week, it's gone. That's it. Gone. Wiped it out. It's like, what's happening there precisely? It has something to do with creating new carbon, new nucleation sites. Another place that that would be useful, let me just make it real easy for men out there, male pattern baldness. You spray it right on the spots where the problem is and it creates new carbon nucleation sites so the tissue grows new from that site. Oh my gosh, you better bring some now. I'll bring some. I'm going heavy on that. That's one of those for our community. I mean, it's, you know how it is with our world. It's like, I don't even know how long they'll keep it legal. It's because it's that kind of level of power. Exactly. So I'll just get it to the people until they shut it down, then we'll find something else. We'll get that to the people until they shut it down. I mean, it's just terrible we live in a world like that, but whatever. We'll do what we got to do. Yes, agreed. And very cool about the castor packs because, gosh, ever since I first read Edgar Casey materials a billion years ago, and he was a huge proponent of that to heal many things in the body, these hot castor packs. And I still have one of these cloths and I still always buy the castor oil. So I'm good like a lot of the stuff you're naming. This is beautiful. I have on hand. Don't have your C 60 yet. You know, till I see you in February. And I have a question because so a lot of this is addressing things we could do out in the grass and move the body and things we can take that will help to heal. What about here? What about here? What can we do with this? If we're that I'm not I am exactly what you described. I'm not that intense. I don't know if I'd say an A because I'm a personality because I'm also a free spirit, but I'm very disciplined and I really get stuff done. And yes, if it's not complete, I can keep working and la la. But you may want to lighten your load, you know, you may want to think about that and just, you know, because I'm getting to a point now where people like, you know, don't you want to do business to this? Don't you want to take this business opportunity? And I'm like, no. You know what I mean? It's like I'm, you know, if I became a billionaire, great. But it's not like I'm going to, I'm not beating myself to death trying to become a billionaire that I'm not doing that. And so if it comes, it comes, if it doesn't, it doesn't, but I don't take on, you know, my mouth has overburdened my back regularly for a long time. And I need to be very careful of that. And I think I'm not alone in that statement. My mouth overburdening my back is not I'm sure you've done the same. And so I have to do that in order to stay healthy. Otherwise, I will just take on too much. And then comes the calcification problems. And eventually that leads to heart problems and stroke. That's calcification problems where you're having blockage or plaque buildup. See, these are, these are plaques. Now, the other side of that, by the way, is the disintegrated forces in nature, which is another whole mindset. Now, I would recommend if you're having very, you know, hardening and calcification, you need to move further towards what we call like, you know, it basically further into more of light work. Really, that's really the best way of saying it. Light work, working with light, working with the light, working on light, working out in the light, you know, with the sun in the light, you know, light work, literally, because it's the opposite of the material. Think of crystallizations, right? Crystallizations occur in the earth, in rocks. You know, you don't want your body to be like that. You want light in there, light in that tissue. That's so amazing that you're even saying that because I'm also taking that a step further. I just recently become so fascinated with light language. And it's been in my life for a while with other people, but I'm now, I'm in a group for it. And the moment I've opened myself up to it synchronistically, like the most you can't write this kind of things have happened around light language, people who are very proficient and expert at it coming into my sphere, on and on. And so I'm even thinking, Oh, lighten up, you know, maybe even light language is a way because that is a way connecting not with the ground, but with, you know, source energy, it's God's language to let come through. And there's a lightness to that. There's something to be said to, you know, I have a friend of mine who's a very type of personality, very incredible entrepreneur. I mean, he runs, you know, he's running like three businesses. He's doing three businesses at once, almost like all as a hobby while raising a family, you know, it's crazy how hard this guy works all hours. I can call him at three in the morning, he will answer immediately, you know, anytime. And but he does observe the Sabbath. So he does actually take the entire day off from everything. So that's getting into the light. So he gets out into the light. He gets out under with the dogs out under the sun. He gets walking and he gets away from the phones. He gets away from everything else. So see, this is the opposite of what's happening in the deep recesses of the joints in the earth. Crystallizations are occurring because we're getting too into the material world. We've got to step, you know, we're a light being, we've got to step out of the material world. So don't get ground back into stone. Most Western karmas end up in stone formation. Most Eastern karmas end up into disintegration. So like diabetes is a disintegrative condition. Right. So the guru says, this none of this is real. It's all illusion. It's hallucination. That actually what'll end up happening with them is they're going to end up with diabetes because they've renounced the world. And therefore you have to have it because we're in the world. So we have to participate in the world. We can't renounce the world. That's going too far, in my opinion, on my research, but we can't get so far in the world that we become crystallized part of it. We become clapped into it. Wow. I already know people are like, getting so much out of this. I know I am. This is amazing. I want to ask you about Scott's Pine. Scott's Pine creates something and studies have shown that testosterone can be found in the pollen. Is that true? And is it good beneficial for men and women? This is something really near and dear to my heart. I've spent, I mean, a friend of mine showed up the other day and we're talking about our history with pine pollen. I was trying to remember how far it went back. It went back far. It's like 15 years or something that we've been on. It's maybe 20 years that we've been aware of it, where the Scott's Pine is a very commonly planted and beautiful ornamental pine that people have in their yards and originally I think from Europe heading maybe even as far all the way into the Ural Mountains is that region of Europe to the Ural Mountains where the Scott's Pine is native. And then it was brought ornamentally over to North America and it's a common pine tree. And it produces a pollen and all pine trees produce a pollen like this that's very rich in five classes of hormones. The most common is the brassinosteroids, which is testosterone, DHEA, andro-stenodion, and andro-sterone, those four. And if you take the pine pollen and eat it, you're going to get some of those four and all the other groups as well. So those fall in the brassinosteroids. There's also four other categories of steroids in the pine pollen, but those are the most well known and most desired. You're going to be like, I want more testosterone. Okay. But if you eat it, you have to eat a lot of it because a lot of it's broken down in digestion. So people have figured out, hey, let's put the pine pollen in alcohol and then we'll see if we can get that under the tongue, the brassinosteroids to actually get right in without being digested and broken down by the digestive system if we ate the pine pollen. And so that's the best way to do it is in glycerin or in alcohol, tincture. So you get the absorption directly into your mucosa of the hormones. So you can raise your DHA or testosterone or andro-senadine or andro-sterone. This is good for men and women, by the way. It's good for men and women. It's not just a men thing. But I will say this, I have noticed like, because we produce a loblolly pine product from Texas. And this is due to my experience with pine pollen over the years. And I've picked pine pollen from Iceland all the way to South America and everywhere in between. And one of the things I've noticed is that there's a really dominant pine in North America called the loblolly pine, Pinus tata. And it's dominates the south. It dominates Florida. If you've ever been to Florida and you're like, look out the side of the car and there's all these pine trees, you know, that kind of spindly pine trees, those are all loblolly pines. And those, those produce a really nice pollen. And so we put that out as a product this year as tincture and in glycerin. And it's, it's actually from the internet, just the broad internet gets us the most new people coming in because the word is out about it. Word is out about it. And what does it do specifically? What are its benefits? Well, it's, it's loaded with every anti-aging compound you could ever think of from magnesium to iron to zinc to, you know, any of those minerals is just to be vitamins, this and that. That is loaded to those things. But the hormones are like master switches, right? They're higher up on the chain. Like we turn testosterone on everything else down below gets switched on. It's way up higher. And that's why people lock into it. And, and I will say I ate a lot of pine pollen this year. It was a major thing for me because we, you know, we were collecting it. We're making products out of it. We're eating it the whole time. We're doing tinctures of it every day. It's really an incredible thing and it tastes good. That's another thing. There's nothing like, you know, when I want to taste, the taste is great. It has a great, it's still okay. Yeah, it could raise your testosterone or Andra stenodione or Andra sterone or DHEA or other ones. But when you're taking bioidenticals, you know, you're being monitored hopefully every three months. So that somebody, you know, your blood tests, and you're like, okay, you're in range, okay, you're in range. Oh, something different happened here. What'd you do? I was taking the pine pollen. Oh, look, everything went up right here. And so you can monitor it. And generally what I'm trying to do is before we go to bioidenticals, let's go to what nature produces first. Let's get the pine pollen and glycerin. Pine pollen and glycerin, by the way, in my opinion, is my best stab at a bioidentical hormone that comes from nature. Wow. And my that's if I had to give a gift of like my gift to bioidentical hormones, you know, from my career, that's it. It's the pine pollen and glycerin, because glycerin doesn't degrade molecules at all. It tastes absolutely delicious. And it's immediately like, like, for example, let's say someone is just gone through their moon, and they take a bunch of glycerin, pine pollen, the moon can come back right there. Like it immediately, you'll your hormones will immediately kick on. It's that strong and just a couple of droppers full. So that's my that's my gift to that world. When it comes to the alcohol tinctures, more common product, it's not as the alcohols doesn't keep the molecules as the alcohol eventually starts to degrade the molecules because it is somewhat of a it's a word I want to use. It's somewhat of a it dries things out, right? It's the alchemists used to say it was a liquid fire, right? When something's an alcohol, if you pull that material out and you put it outside, it's been dried out in some weird way. It's like a liquid fire in certain respects. That's amazing. I've been engaging in red light therapy and also that on the spot cryotherapy. What are your thoughts about both of those? I love laser therapy and cryotherapy and had a lot to do with getting the word out there about cryotherapy, especially on the spot stuff like cryo facials, for example. And it's just an amazing thing that we've discovered the importance of cold for health. If we're going to let's say, you know, there's these people are like, okay, when I die, I'm going to be frozen. I'm going to be revived, you know, 500 years later, you're not going to be heated up. You're going to be frozen. Why are you going to be frozen instead of heated up? Because the freezing slows down all the metabolic activity and preserves all the tissue. So this is a huge thing. I think Vemhop has had a big part of it is getting people to the realization that like you want cold. Cold is good. Too much heat, you're inflamed. That's inflammation. Cold water jumping into cold water. Go outside if you can. Let's say you're in your backyard in the middle of winter, and you could be naked in your backyard. Well, go out and do it. You know, go out there and just feel all the elements and just feel what it's like to be, you know, a person on the earth that you bring in the stars and the heavens all through your body and bring in the cold and invite in the cold. Cold is anti-inflammatory. Cold is longevity-inducing. The longest-lived people in Europe are the Icelanders of all. It's freezing up there, but there's something to be that something to that slowing the metabolic rate and the powers of cold to preserve tissue that comes through on that. Now, with laser treatments, I really like red lasers in particular in red light. I have a red light actually over here in this bathroom that I really like to be under that. It's like an old 70s light bulb. You remember those from the 70s with shag carpets and those big red light bulbs? Those are really great. They warm you up at a real deep level, and they hit some of the incubation frequencies. For example, in infrared, I think it's about, I think it's 758, 758 nanometers, is an incubation frequency that your mom puts out into you when you're being born, when you're being built up in the womb and all that. Those are the colors. That's when you get that red light therapy. Those are the frequencies you're getting. You're getting those incubation frequencies and many others that I don't know about or that I haven't studied enough to know or that maybe we don't know a lot about. But generally, the idea is that it penetrates deep into the tissue so you can get the effects, the anti-inflammatory effects deeper into the tissue than say a surface treatment. Incredible. Yeah, I'm experimenting. The one I go in is a bed. I literally lay in the bed and pull the top over, and this has presets. You decide, I think there's like eight, inflammation, sports, injuries, anti-aging. There's all these different ones. I'm just experimenting with it right now. I try the different frequencies, and you lay there. It's been very relaxing. It's so simple to just receive and just to ease and just to receive. This is good for, let's say a personality like you and I, hardworking constantly. We need to let go and let the light come in way more. That's why to me, fasting and cleansing is really important. It's not just about the fasting and cleansing. It's about I have more time so I can actually treat myself to a massage. I can treat myself to a light therapy because those are treats. It'd be nice to have that every day, but I don't have that every day. I'm in that field. I don't have it every day. I'd love to have that every day, but I'd be lucky if I get a massage once a month. Yeah, totally. Same. We should be accountability partners. Yeah, totally. How's it going? Get off your phone. Go get a massage. It's true. I would love all of that too. It's so luxurious and joyful when I do that. I want to ask you about UFOs and ETs. I don't know if you're into it. I don't know if you believe in it. I don't know if you have experience. I'm totally into it. What is your deal with that? Over the years, I ended up more in the Jacques Valais camp. We had the same publisher for a while, so I was able to see what he was up to. Here's the latest he's doing, which is more of the interdimensional side. I never really believed it's like, okay, a little green man gets on a ship from this galaxy over here and it goes three trillion light years. No way. Sorry, not buying any of that. It's not that. It's some kind of an interdimensional phenomenon. The dimensional interface can sometimes be very energetically different. For example, beings coming in from some other higher fractal dimensions just have a difficult problem. We have a difficult problem interacting with them, and they have a difficult problem reacting with us because they're in a different time and energy signature. Something like that's going on. Do you have any experiences? Well, I've had a lot of experiences with people who've been abducted. For example, I used to do a lot of one-on-one work. We do a retreat. We're doing a cleanse, and then someone would be like, okay, I'd sign five people up that day. You're going to do one-on-one with me, and we'll do body work. Everything, whatever I'm feeling is needed. That's what we're going to do for that hour or hour and a half. I would have things multiple different times in many different places, people who could never have known each other, and they're going to give me a John Mack abduction story. If you remember John Mack, I think it was from Harvard or he's from one of those Ivy League schools, and he came clean. He's like, there's something going on. I don't know what this is, but I've got to report this because these are the patients that I'm interviewing, and here's what's going on. Because of studying John Mack's work and the abduction literature that's out there, I knew certain hallmarks, and then people would tell me, and they'd be like, this happened, and that happened, and I'd be like, let me guess, then this happened next. And they're like, yeah, how did you know? And I'd be like, let me guess, then probably this. And they'd be like, yeah. So I've had many experiences like that that tell me it's a legitimate phenomenon. It's a legitimate phenomenon, something's going on. It's something I think it's very difficult for us to comprehend. So we interpret it into, oh, a little green man or the grazer, they're coming in a spaceship from over here to over there, but it's not that. It's not that. There's very strong evidence that the phenomenon is localized to certain geographical areas, especially with the grays, right? So that there are somehow crypto terrestrials that they're there, they're living in the ground there, they're somehow related to that, or that that dimensional doorway breaks down and suddenly they're showing up more than it dissipates a little bit and then they don't show up, but it's usually geologically grounded. There's a certain spot off the coast here, actually. We were talking about it last night. About 200 miles north of the Hawaiian islands is something. There's something in the ocean out there. And every now and then, especially, because we're very far in the North Shore, we can see it, you know, there'd be lights out there like, what's that? Now, is it the US government? I don't think so, because the Hawaiians say it's always been like that. I love it. Oh, I love it. I love it so much. I recently had Matt LeCroy from Gaia TV. He's an ancient history expert. Wow, what a conversation. And I mean, first of all, he's talking about, we look back and say everybody was hunter-gatherer, but when in fact they were advanced civilization. He, Graham Hancock, people like this, they have so much proof of this. And part of what was going on back then was portals, right? And much like what you're talking about. And because that was how they would interdimensionally come through here. And so that whole thing right now for me is really digging up and I'm reading, researching, ingesting a lot of it. I believe in it so strongly. And Bashar said just a couple of weeks ago, 2023, get ready, because there's going to be a lot more activities. So those lights you're seeing, David, I keep checking out there. And don't just see if there's lights now, see if something else starts happening, because they are going to start making more of an appearance. And everything I've read, I agree. I concur that it is a frequency. And they are so advanced. Their frequency is so high that it's difficult for them to lower it just to interact with us. And same for us to raise our vibration. But I will say Friday night, I had this, I've never had anything happen like this, but I absolutely had an ascension dream, 100%. And I call it the divine that was working with me in the dream. But the truth is, I don't know, it could have been extraterrestrials. I don't know. It was extremely advanced. And it was asking things of me. It was, I was also in a dream at the same time. And watching these healing modalities I created and being of service to people and through my music, but other like apparatus in a room. And it was like amazing to me. And then the divine would come in and ask something of me. And I would freeze because I think, Oh boy, I'm in a crossroads. If I say, if I say no, it's going to be this offer will be off the table forever. But I don't know what happens if I say yes. And I would just surrender and say yes. And then I had like intense healings and energy and vibration. And even when my body was being lifted in the air and all sorts of stuff, I woke up so grateful on Saturday morning and I really had felt so loved. And I, when I went to bed Saturday night, I was like, can we have some more? Can that not be the end? Can we like do the sequel now? Because that was freaking awesome. I mean, did you get back there? No, it's, it's tough to get back into the dream space where you were before. It's almost like, I don't know how much control we have over that. I had a crazy dream the other night when I first got here Friday night, I think it was, I had a dream that I was tossing and turning. I had a dream that I was tossing and turning while trying to sleep. Then I woke up and I was like, wait a second, I'm not tossing and turning. I've been asleep the whole time. And I went and used the bathroom and they came back. That was an unusual dream. I have to say very strange dreaming of tossing and turning. And then early in the morning around 330, maybe 4am, I had a dream I was in my bathroom here and then a light came, it was below the house, but above the ground. It came underneath and shot across the yard like that. There's a very strong lay line here that goes along that pathway right here. Then we had some information that was passing along and that came in my dream. One of my neighbors showed up and we discussed it in the dream. And then later I talked to him about it. I get some of that, especially in Hawaii, where light entities of some sort will somehow intrude into the dream space and somehow try to get you some information, something of that nature. It is interesting though that this phenomenon, the UFO phenomenon appears to have something to do with, there's two themes. One is the genetic modification of humanity. That's a theme that comes up a lot. The other one is the way that we're trashing this place. Big time. That's another common theme that I've seen in all that literature. And so that appears to be of concern to whoever these interdimensional beings are. 100%. Yeah. And the nuclear, the whole nuclear system we've got going here, which they have intercepted many, many times and still watch over because it is said, many people come on the show who channel extraterrestrials and can speak very wisely about this, but they make it clear to us, look, you want to destroy your planet? Awesome. Pretty stupid because it's a beautiful place. It's kind of nice to have a life in a body for as long as you have it, but pretty stupid. But guess what? Your impact, this has ramifications. You set something off nuclear. It's not just that country, those people, this planet, all throughout space, galaxies, universes. Or dimensions, right? Like it's something like that, for sure. By the way, on that point, I spent a lot of years trying to crack into the truth or veracity of the explosive power of nuclear weapons. And so, I'm not, by the way, I do not believe that it's one bomb destroys one city with explosive power. I think what they're really what the nuclear weapon is, is it's a dirty bomb. And so you have, it's kind of like what happened. Remember about two years ago, there was that bomb explosion in Lebanon? Remember that down in the port? Imagine put an explosion like that, but you put nuclear debris like polonium, plutonium, and uranium on that, and then fire that everywhere. That's the real dangerous weapon. And that's, they're using those weapons, by the way, depleted uranium munitions have been used. And that's something that really irks me. It really does. But by the way, I just want to put that out there and interject that to everybody who wants to research it. The explosive power, like what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki were mostly napalm. It was mostly firebomb. It wasn't the one bomb destroyed the whole city or the one bomb destroyed all of Nagasaki. It wasn't that. And you could see that the radioactive, whatever isotopes degraded quickly and those cities are bustling healthy cities today. How's that possible? Because we're not being told the whole truth on this subject. So I just want to inspire that type of research. I found it to be interesting. I personally, again, think that the destructive power is a hoax. What the real danger is, is that they're going to put a very high powered weapon and then blast nuclear debris and nuclear waste everywhere. That to me is a very, very dangerous problem. Okay. Yeah. That's even worse than anything I've heard, but very possible. It's very possible that what people will do out of greed and I'm right and you're wrong. And just demonic possession or something. I'm curious about that. More and more I look at it, the more and more I go, these people are possessed by demons. There's nothing about any of this that makes any sense. It's the narcissism, the sociopathic behavior of this and that, the lying, the incessant lying, the nonstop lying. You're just like, I don't even know people who are like that. This is like a demonic possession. What are your thoughts on that? That comes up for me a lot. That's interesting. I've never considered demonic, although it makes perfect sense to me, but there's something so aberrant, so entitled and yes, narcissistic, clueless. Absolutely. Yep. Clueless. It's so easy. Right? Right. It's just, you know, the same amount of energy to go the other direction. Absolutely. It's like, just on this farm, there's so much to do. Like what do I have to do? I mean, I have to be plotting how we're going to bomb these people and this and I mean, it just makes no sense. It's just people don't have their, they have no, their values are just completely distorted. I don't know what to say about it. It's like, you're going to go bomb somebody. Like how about plant a tree? Let's, let's, how about start a farm? Yeah. How about let's, let's observe and behold the mystery and magic of mother nature and creation and see what that's like and, you know, same energy, by the way, and by the way, and same, I always think this about hackers, like my Facebook account, like astu, estupido, right? These people, I don't even understand them, but they took my picture, my blurb, my bio, reprinted it and started friending all my friends and thankfully my friends immediately started texting me and going, there's some whack job out there pretending they're you and I knew it was you. I could tell right away and it was so beautiful. I mean, to fix these things is actually very simple. I wrote to the seven people really fast who had agreed to friend this hacker, got them off, wrote to Facebook. I am telling you, like in 10 minutes, that page was down. I'm like, I ain't playing. So don't even think you're going to. It's crazy that people even do that. Like you have time to do that. Like what, I just don't get it. It definitely, it's definitely a crisis of education for sure. Like get kids creating, get kids, you know, knowing how to bounce checkbook, get kids, you know, doing things that are productive, like planting trees and planting a garden and things that are real. But when you get people too much in their mind and too much on their devices, next thing, you know, you have this kind of stuff happening and you're just like, why would they do that? Why would they pick you? Like you're, okay, they're going to hack you and like, like why? Yeah. And they do it a lot on Instagram too. They take people who are very gifted and they'll replicate their accounts and say, can I give you a reading and ask for money? So I know all this, but I'll tell you, I look at these people and think, my heart breaks for you because you're a genius. Honestly, if you can do all this and understand, you're a genius. And think about if you just switched paths, the money you could make and the good you could do, how you could turn your entire life around and use those same skills for good. I hope you're listening to me and I can help change them because I would support them so much in writing their path. There would be zero judgment. Just like, you can do this. If you are that smart, like we need you, but the light needs you. Yes, totally. Yes. I think that's where, you know, to me, the changing of the age, the age that we're coming into, the end of the Kali Yuga, the Theosophists, Rudolf Steiner, Sri Yukteswar, they said that the Kali Yuga ended in 1899. And then so what we're seeing now, I think the first step out is the apocalypse, which means we're seeing it all. We're seeing all the corruption, like, oh my God, these people are stealing all this money and all, you know, the endless wars and we're seeing all that. So that's the first step is the, just seeing it all. But ultimately, the Yuga, the next Yuga and the Yuga that we're entering into right now is about a change within us. It's a change. We're becoming more clarsentient, more clairvoyant, more clairaudient. We're becoming tuned into our heart. We're becoming tuned into the idea that our heart rules our mind, not the other way around. All of that are changes that are happening within us. And so as that age develops, and this is, I think it's a long one. I think it goes like, you go like 12,500 years to the peak of it. And then it's another 12,500 years to get us kind of back to where we're going into like a lower energy age or something, you know, in the cycles of the ages. It's, we're just at the beginning. So, you know, 12,500 years, long time. And so I think it's going to come at stages. And I'm pretty sure this one, the first step is the apocalypse, which means you get to see all of the corruption and the evil. And so that's important. You got to be aware of it. And the second piece is the change that come in with us that causes to go, okay, now we're aware of that. And now we're moving this way. Now we're doing making these choices. Thoughtward need has taken us this way because we know what that is and we don't want that. So we're going to go this way. That might be step two. That is so well said. I 100% concur. I'm living it. I'm seeing it on the planet. I'm seeing other people go through it. And actually, I think that was a very inspiring thing to tell people and to get their minds around that. You know, especially lightworkers so, so sensitive that can feel so much to remember half, most of that's probably not yours. And you came here to do good work. Like you've got an army around you to do what you came here to do. You're going to be okay. You really are. So, David, like, first of all, I adore you so much. I really have loved this conversation. And tell us what you're going to be talking about. Conscious Life Expo, Los Angeles, February 10th to the 13th, 2023. The link, you can register to go live who wouldn't want to, from anywhere in the world, go live. Or if you have to live stream for whatever reason, you can do either. The link will be in the show notes. Tell me, what are you talking? What are you talking about? I didn't know, you know, how far they wanted me to go. So the first thing is I was like, let me get into here. I'll talk about blue pigments and yellow pigments, no bulletin and talk about quercetin and, you know, some of these really interesting things. Well, that was what I was going to do. That's what I was going to do. But then they're like, no, we want you to come in here and talk. Like, what if somebody got the jab and they had side effects? And what if, you know, what if somebody, you know, suddenly was in the hospital and they, you know, this and that. And I was like, oh, no problem. I mean, I'll talk about that too. No problem. I mean, I spent, I've told you this before, but I've been on Dr. Fauci's case since 1990. I met Dr. Peter Duisburg. He came and spoke to our school when I was at UC Santa Barbara. And then he stayed at the apartment below where I was living, the guys who brought him there. He stayed there. So I went down there after the talk and hung out with him all night. And he was, he was, you know, at odds with Fauci in 1990 and what was going on the way that the controlled medicine system works. So Fauci decides where the money goes and that kind of stuff. And more and more people are becoming aware of this. Thank God. I'm thank God. You know, we can, we can stop the tragedy of the corruption that goes on at that level. I mean, Fauci spending six and a half billion dollars a year for the US government. And let me tell you something, when big farmers going, Hey, we need a little bit of this, we need a little bit of that. And we need a few favors, they get them and they've been getting them for decades. And now it's resulted in a crisis. So I'm going to be talking about that. I'm going to be talking about exactly what to do if somebody's been injured. So you have a friend who's, maybe they got the jab or they got one of them, but they're really now they regret it or something like that. What do you do? So I'm going to lay those protocols all out. And my whole take on, you know, what the real, what the Western medicine system has become and what the new system looks like. And the new, and by the way, the new system is going to be, I mean, it's going to be biblical. Just because you just imagine, like, for example, like, if let's say I was injured, you know, I'm in Hawaii right now for the winter, but when I get back to Texas, if I was injured, I would not go to a hospital. I go to my friends. It's an it's an inpatient private membership association. They're emergency room doctors. But if I go in there, I don't have to do any of the hospital stuff. And I get everything handled by them. They're my emergency care physicians. And so I stay out of the hospital system, because next thing you know, they're going to bill you for $58,000. Next thing you know, they're going to say, no, you have to get the jab to come in here. The next thing you know, you're going to have to wear these masks for the next 10 years or whatever the BS is, we're already starting to develop systems outside of that with real emergency care physicians, just because emergency care is something that Western medicine does really good. But when it comes to long-term care of chronic inflammatory conditions, that's something that I do real good and people in our field do real good. And so we're going to integrate those together into private membership associations that are the new hospitals. And as a member of that association, and let's say you live near Austin, Texas, these guys are in Austin, Texas, you could actually just be a member so anything happens to you instead of going to the hospital, you go there. And it's a private organization. Government can't do anything about it. It's like the Boy Scouts of America. There's nothing the government can do about it. It's private. David, this is dare to dream. What are you next dare to dream? What are your future dreams and goals? Oh, fantastic. Thank you so much. I definitely want to just keep on the trajectory that I'm going in the sense of growing these farms that I've got and bringing more of the magic of these farms to the public. Like, I'll show you, watch this. You want to see magic? This is the honey we're producing from here. Wow. Look at that. It's almost black. That's my December 2022 Black Gold OG hives. And this stuff is so crazy. Getting more of this stuff out there to the world, more of these things. The mona of this, it glows. I mean, I don't know if you can see that. Geez, I don't want to get on my computer. I want to smell it. You want to smell it now? Let me see if I can get that. There you go. You can see there. Anyway, we can drink it. It's just insane. So getting more trees in the ground, a fruit tree planting foundation. And whenever you support me, if you buy a product from me, a portion of proceeds goes to our fruit tree planting foundation. We planted over a million trees in the world all over the place. War-torn countries all over the United States, Native American reservations, all over Canada, all over Europe, all over Brazil, all over Uganda, all over Australia, everywhere. We're planting trees. So right now my team's out planting trees and they're hardcore. That's why I love them so much. It's like, then I'm going to be reunited with them at the end of the month. It's going to be the best ever. Oh, okay. Well, I'm going to see you at CLE and folks who would like to learn more or take part in the cleanse, et cetera, et cetera. Go to DavidWolfWolfe.com and I end today's show with this quote from Thicke Nhat Hanh. Keeping your body healthy is an expression of gratitude to the whole cosmos, the trees, the clouds, everything. Subscribe to this number one transformation conversation, Dare to Dream with Debbie Daschinger. Next week's show is going to be featuring the amazing Susan Slaughter. She's a paranormal expert and she's the investigator on shows like Ghostbusters International, Paranormal, Caught on Camera, and The Dark Zone TV. Thanks for tuning in to Dare to Dream. Subscribe, like, I read all your comments and remember, create all your dreams into your reality. Thank you. That was great. Good job. Wow. That was fun. Thank you. Such a good show. Oh my God. Well, you are welcome back any time if I can never help you or be of service or you need to. XYZ, just let me know. Fantastic. Now you're in Burbank. I got to get back to LA. I'm really bummed, a really good friend of mine. Do you know Eric the trainer? You heard of Eric the trainer? No, I haven't. He was kind of like, there's the Holly weird side, which is like the Harvey Weinsteins and those kind of people are like, you want to get advanced in Hollywood, you're going to have to do this. And then there's the Hollywood people, the best script writers, the most amazing innovators, the most incredible animators and creative minds in the world. And Eric the trainer was the center of that part of Hollywood. He was the Hollywood part. And woke up on Thanksgiving morning, felt terrible and dropped dead. It was horrible. Oh no. Yeah, it was horrible. And I think it was a combination. I didn't know this, but he was taking sleeping pills. And in combination with the testosterone, there was a bad combo. And the guy did like 40,000 push-ups in September. Was there some kind of service for him? There was. Yeah, there was like 10 days ago. It's really, I mean, I've really taken it hard. He was one of my best friends. And he's where I usually go to when I get to LA and he's the kind of the high go to him. And then he's the hub, you know, that I go radiate out from there. So I don't know when I'm going to be back in LA, but I'd love to meet you in person. It's going to be at the Countress Life X, but that'll be the next time. Yeah, but it's, I know it's a flyby because you get, you know, I see you guys on stage all the time and everybody always says, Oh, come talk to me. But it's like, then there's a good billion other people. But if you ever, yeah, if you come to LA, just let Angela know too. I mean, you have mine, hopefully of all my info, I can give it to you, my cell and everything I can put it in the box. Let me just see. I think I got it. And we were talking about my color book. Remember that? Yes, I do. Last time. I can't believe you remember. Of course I remember. Okay, good. Cause that was, let me see, Debbie. You know what? I don't have you on my phone. Let me just, if I could put you my phone. There's my cell phone. That's my personal cell phone. So you can text me, call me there. And then this is my personal email. And you could keep both of these. Yeah, you can reach out anytime. I'd love to get together with you. See, Dachinger. Okay. I just got to get your name spelled right. D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R. Awesome. You're eight, one, eight, two, one, nine. I still have a six, one, nine. So if you get a six, one, nine number for me, that's, that's that. Are you on telegram by any chance? Telegram messenger? Okay. Okay. So I'll find you on telegram 93. And then let me get your email. Whoops. Nope. There's email. Bam. Deb on radio. Deb on radio. On the radio. Oh, on the, yeah. Oh, on the radio. Okay, I missed that. I used to have debonair because it was... That's a good one. That's really good. That's clever. Okay, cool. I got you in here and I'll see you at Conscious Life Expo and let's see if we can take a moment to have a lunch or something. You know, let's just get away for a lunch at Conscious Life Expo. How's that sound? Fabulous. I'm in. Okay. Okay. Fantastic. Okay. The best day ever. Cheers. You are you too. Aloha. Oh my God. I just gave the world...