 Mwindi and we will be talking about edging the path to success. This is a path that he has walked, he has had some trouble in between, highs, lows, till we go to the point where he has authored this particular book. It's called The Narrow Path, Mastering the Art of Awareness and Mastering the Art of Awareness and then locking the eternal treasures within. I hope you can see it. Yes, so we have Mwindi here. Mwindi, welcome. Thank you. Glad to have you with us. I'm excited. Okay, so I don't know if I should jump into this book first or you tell us anything that I've missed about you. No, I mean everything is, you've said the book well. That's my first book, so it's like, you know, it's a new baby for me, you know, so I'm excited for everyone to read it. I mean, you know, it's an amazing book, you know. During the process of me writing it, you know, it took, I'm not saying too much too soon, but the writing process was amazing. Okay, it looks like a good book, like it looks like a journey that you're taking us through, you know, just from the cover page and let me read through the synopsis. So it says a young adult's journey through life that discovers the narrow path that has the ingredients for life and success. A book that truthfully articulate and demonstrates that purpose knows no age. Along the narrow path, the author faces internal and external battles, such as facing doubts, overcoming addiction and being humbled through pivotal temptations and mistakes. He discovers the dangers of the trajectory the modern world is heading towards with a destructive nature of addiction, lack of awareness of self and lack of vision that most people are victim to. This reality is all taught to him to learn and pursue principles, wisdom and understanding that helped him begin the journey of mastering awareness and unlocking the eternal treasures within him. This is quite nice. Thank you. So we want to know about the journey that you're talking about. Yeah. Let us in on it so that we understand how far you've come or maybe let's start with where you are at now before before we go back to your journey. Yeah, so the book that's the first project that I launched as well as the sportswear brand, Mortarji. So again, the accent people might not understand what it is, but it means the dreamer in Sahili. So those are the two projects that I've worked on right now. That's where I'm at right now, but it started literally four years ago. That's when I can say like my life again, everything was just me existing, you know, so it's during those four years, I've learned so much and that's why the synopsis, the blurb is kind of gives an understanding of the deep things. It's quite a deep book. So it's four years, but it feels like a lifetime. Wow. So you've put your all into this book. All right. So you want to tell us how did you, you know, you've just said that you feel like your life just began four years ago and that's quite a, you know, quite the statement. So what do you mean by exactly by that? What happened, you know, the years before that? How are you not? How are you just existing? Well, so why I talk about mastering the art of awareness is because everything before that, because I'm 22 now, but from when I was born and I landed on the earth and then I lived 17 years, it's like I didn't have my brain. I felt like, you know, I can't even tell you where my mind was. You know what I'm saying? Like I couldn't identify my thoughts. I was just, I was just literally existing, you know, and so in, when I was in Michigan, 2020, March, that's when now like I, I stand, I went to stay two or my other friends there. We had a lot of fun. Quite, quite the amount of fun, but that's another story for another day. But yeah, maybe so, but through that, through those experiences there in May specifically, the month of May, that's when like now I started having like a deeper conviction that I'm kind of made for more, that there's something, you know, like the things we were doing, it was fun, but I don't know. I felt guilty. You know, I just felt like, I don't know if I should be doing this. And so it's not like we were doing anything mad crazy and get it twisted. But like, that's when now like I had a voice in my spirit telling me, you know, Muli, you're made for more. And so it was like a period of maybe like two weeks of me hearing that over and over and over again. I got a point was extremely loud. I couldn't really ignore it. And so I prayed one night and I said, God, if this is from you, make yourself known to me. And so the next morning, nothing changed, like really, but my heart changed. Like I had two specific things. Firstly, I was talking to quite a few girls at the time. But I woke up, okay, my past relax. So I woke up and that desire just left me. Like, I didn't really have the desire to talk to anyone as well. And then at the time we had staying with my friends, you know, you think you know your friends until you live with them. So we had our snacks, everyone has our snacks. And me, my snacks was cookies. So you don't touch my cookies, I put them in the fridge specifically behind specific other things like milk. So I know that thing has been moved. Someone's trying to get my yeah. So again, I woke up that morning and I didn't have the desire to like hide them anymore. So my friends were like, noticing this is strange about Muli, because I left them out on the counter. I didn't put them in the fridge. When I used to go do my weekly restock. So those are the significant points in my heart that made me, you know, like, okay, something is different. And so now that's when I started now exploring what this journey is. I started listening to teachings, I started listening to podcasts, like I just drowned myself into the journey of personal mastery and discovering who you are. So you just had it just came to you something that, you know, it took like a week, something that just spoke to you go convicted and things just shifted completely before before I asked you the question that I wanted to ask. Let's just get clear, you know, whether you were Kenyan or American because of your access. I'm being asked, are you American? I'm full Kenyan. I'm full Kenyan. But I mean, I don't know, I don't know how to explain my accent. But you've stayed in the state. So it explains it a bit. All right. So now before before then before that shift, I'm still trying to get to understand. When you talk about this, you know, the internal, the external battles that you face, the doubts, the addiction, you know, being humble through the temptations and mistakes. Do you want to take us through this journey before now 2020 before the turning point? Well, yeah. So even it happened also after the turning point. So it obviously shows I'm not perfect. And I was just trying to find my feet. So there's those pivotal mistakes, temptations, all of them like, we can go deep, but I don't know how deep you want to go. We can go as deep as you want. I'll keep it. I'll keep it. Okay. So well, those certain things I used to struggle with because of facing disappointments and facing heartbreak pain again. It became something I was so used to. So I needed to find ways to cope. You know, and so that addiction was addiction is like now women and struggling with my urges. You know, I couldn't really, I'm not saying I was the greatest sinner, but I couldn't really control my urges like that. Because I so used to not getting what I wanted. So I was just like, okay, let me get what I want. And I'm also I'm a bit handsome. So wow. In that field of having it wasn't difficult for me to talk to girls, but I had to learn though. So even in the now, now, before we move on, just for the girls that are watching, I do have a girl. Are you dating me? Are you focused on your book and the brand? Yeah, I'm currently not dating. I'm just focused on what's ahead of me right now. Okay, so that's out of the way. So yeah, um, before that, like there's a chapter in the book that I talk about life before awareness. So I don't want to give too much away. But like, I talk about now, the experiences I had as a teenager and how you know, teenagers are basically. And now you see the the moment that significant turning point happened. I said, I identify even through my friends, my people around me that not everyone is, you know, aware of how dangerous our society is heading towards, you know? Because even if you look at like, my generation, people, how much we go out, how much we drink, you know, like, it's crazy. Like, I'm not gonna go too, too much into it. But those problems kind of made me be like, yeah, this is a bit alarming. And so in the book, I talk about like, the dangers of not being aware, the dangers of not having purpose, you know, there's a verse in the Bible that says that where there's no vision, the people perish. So a lot of people in our generation are perishing because they don't have vision or purpose. And how I define vision is vision is the GPS coordinates and purpose is the destination. So how even when I was in the USA, we have a teammate who used to practice football, like training, pinging the ball to each other back and forth. So the purpose was to ping the ball to me and the purpose to ping the ball to him for me for him to ping the ball to me. So when you see obviously in football, the picture is always changing. And so if he gives me a pass that's directly to my feet, we usually say that the GPS coordinates were on because the vision was there. But so basically, if people don't have vision, it's going to be very difficult for them to achieve their purpose. Because your purpose may be let's say to become a specific professional in whatever field. But the vision can change as well, you know, there's ups and downs, there's bumps in the roads. And those are the things that I talk about in the book. So awareness is such an important thing for me. Okay, interesting. And what about the title? How did you decide on the narrow path? You know, when I'm thinking about the narrow path, it's something that has been described in the Bible, if I can call it like that, if it could be like that, you know, how they describe health, heaven, it's the narrow road, you know, and the other one is really wide road. Yes. So how did you how do you come up with the narrow path? Well, everything was, I can say, Divinely inspired because the moment I started writing the book, I didn't really have a direction. I just started writing. And so it all came together at the end, whereas it's like the narrow path because my journey is definitely an any journey of anyone who's going to be successful. There's a part where you have to walk alone, and it's going to be difficult because the path towards greatness is not easily journeyed. And even the broad path, if you if you're to compare two paths, the broad path is usually where everyone is. But if you're doing something that's great, there's a period in your life where you have to be alone to discover who you are, to understand your purpose, your vision. And so even in the book, I talk about a vision I had when I was in the US. I was in a season of I was in a dodgy Airbnb. And so in that Airbnb, I was supposed to have for 31 days, but I ended up staying there for seven days. My coach rescued me because it was too dodgy. Yeah, I was in the middle of I don't even know where. And so I didn't really, there was nothing to do. So it was just me in a room, basically, and obviously COVID restrictions were tight there, so you couldn't do much. And so that vision was very pivotal in my journey. And so it's in the book and I talk about how important it is to have vision, you know. So the narrow path is, is definitely it can be lonely until you find your tribe. But it's it's, it's the path where a lot of greatness is found. Okay, so the narrow path, we should all at least find our narrow path. Yeah. That's moment when you discover yourself really. When we talk about, when we talk about purpose, they, it's, you know, the thing about identity also comes in. And I, I'm sitting here on chapter eight talking about clarity in your identity. So which one comes first? You need to know who you are and what does identity really mean for someone? Because, you know, many people are lost, especially in this age, because it can't really, they need identity crisis. They can't really figure out who they are, what they want to be and all that. So it's hard to even talk about purpose. So I'm guessing identity comes first, but you can tell us. And what's your understanding is? Yeah, you answered that correctly. I mean, it's important to understand who you are before you understand your purpose. Because you can't go into purpose without not knowing who you are. It's just going to be difficult. So with me, how I understood my identity was from, it didn't happen overnight. It is a journey and I'm grateful to God because God is, you know, I don't, I'm not trying to force my beliefs on anyone. But I can't understand my identity without God for me personally. And so even my purpose, everything just given, it was given to me like, I can't explain, but I talk about, you know, importance of wisdom. You know, whenever you do discover that purpose, it's important to pursue wisdom because when you do pursue wisdom, wisdom is like, wisdom enlightens your eyes like a man who was once color blind but now sees like it's so important to have wisdom because if you don't have wisdom, it's like you're walking to your own death. Because it's, I say this, wisdom is like, if you make wisdom your best friend, it's like you walk with an army because wisdom is like a defense and a safety. So with purpose, if you don't take time to pursue wisdom and pursue what it is you're supposed to do on the earth because I got frustrated. I was like, what am I doing on this earth? And a lot of people can relate because you get, you know, even like when you go out to the clubs and stuff, you know, there's a lot of people who do that. And I'm not bashing them but when you're out and then you're having so much fun, but all of a sudden there's a conviction that hits you like, whoa, you know, you're made for more or, you know, it's time to go home. Those are the, those are the cues that your spirit is giving you that, yeah, there's definitely more but you now need to take that action and pursue what it is that that voice is saying. And so for me, how I reached where I am is because I actually did take time to pursue it and I was very diligent. My desire is crazy because I hate being ignorant, you know. And so I wish there were people who would teach you more about yourself at a young age because I was even saying in another interview, if I was told about who I am, my identity, my purpose when I was like 13, 14, this book would have come when I was maybe 16, you know. And a lot of young people need that guidance. They need the understanding that if you don't, if you walk this life not knowing who you are, it's going to be, you're like, you're going to be like another plant, it's going to be forgotten. But I'm big on legacy, I'm big on doing things not just for myself but for my children's children's children. So I'm seeing things beyond my time, you know. Now this is very impressive coming from a youth and you're very young, you said you're 22 and you have so much, you know, wisdom when you were talking about wisdom. So how do you pursue wisdom for someone who's wondering, you know, who's wondering where do you get wisdom? Is it from books? Because sometimes people say wisdom comes with age, you know, so with experience comes wisdom. But for you, how do you, how do you pursue wisdom? Well, I like to say wisdom is the application of knowledge. So if you don't have knowledge, how can you have wisdom? So the best thing to do is expand your knowledge and understand that there's people who've gone before you, who have gone through several things. You see, I like to be smart where if someone has gone through something before me, I like to see what their mind was and understand their perspective. So I don't need to make the mistakes that they made. So I'm definitely riding off the back of people who have gone before me. And that's that that's wisdom comes with experience as well. But I think there's also two other avenues that can be given to you by God because there's there's some things you can't just work for no matter how much you try. And unfortunately, you see, there's many people who are not smart than how many people are wise these days. Because even if you look at like how this society has so many consumers as creators, there's so many people who are supposed to be creators, but people are stuck in the consuming mindset, dopamine, you know, social media can get crazy. Yeah. But, you know, if you take time to step away because I did that like this book, I wrote after a period of me breaking someone's heart, unfortunately, well, let's not get into that because I expected a lot from myself. It hit me hard, like that pain really challenged me. And now I started asking myself hard questions, like, how do I claim to be this person trying to help other people become better? But I'm here myself facing demons and losing all the time. So I took a two month hightest of social media just to focus on myself. And through that period, now that's when I discovered that, yeah, there's a writer in me. There's a creative in me. And I never used to think I'm creative. I used to look at creative people and I used to be jealous. So how do you come up with this creative? You know, but now I understand it's also a matter of desire. You actually have to be eager to know and pursue these things. So there's a lot of people who can take these things and actually practically apply them because I do read a lot. I read like crazy. And for me, reading is is it just expands my mind and it feeds my soul. And so with that, now the knowledge that I read, I'm practical in how I learn. So I always take time to write what I learn every day. Like if I read specific books or listen to specific podcasts, I like to write the things that challenged me or the things that I'm like, this is very intriguing. Let me look more into this. So there's a lot of things that you can do to pursue wisdom, but practically find a mentor. If you can't find a mentor, let books be your mentors because for me, I didn't find a mentor until just the other day. And so those are the things that you should do practically to pursue wisdom, you know. OK, so it comes. It's the application of knowledge. You need to have knowledge fast. You can get it from books. You can get it from mentors, as you've said it. And now, chapter six, you're saying testimony, over-awareness of knowing how to trust your heart. And you mentioned, you know, sometimes we hear a voice inside of us telling us that we can become more. We need to be more, to do more. But sometimes you just ignore that voice, you know. So what's the importance of trusting? Yeah, that chapter is very deep. And I believe, you know, a lot of people that, you know, your heart can mislead you and it's misled me so many times. You know, when people say, trust your heart or do what your heart says, and your heart doesn't want anything good. And sometimes your heart says something and your mind says another. Exactly. So there's always that wall between us. Like there's your flesh. The flesh is like the thing that just wants every craving or it doesn't want to be told. No, that's stubborn nature within you. Then use the soul and then your spirit. The spirit is not what relays those messages to your soul. And if you're not aware of that communication within you, it's going to be difficult for you to bring forth anything from within you to the world. That's going to be great. That's why I talk about unlocking eternal treasures within because I think I believe and I'm convinced everyone in this world has greatness inside of them. You know, in whatever field they choose to pursue in whatever career there's greatness. So you need to take time to find that greatness. And that comes from listening to that voice within you that's trying to push you out of your comfort zone. Because usually the voice of your spirit is not going to tell you to do things that are comfortable. The voice of your flesh will tell you to do things that are comfortable. You know, procrastination, laziness. You know, just eat this. You know, so there's so many things that are going on within us that not many people are aware of. You know, so awareness and eternal treasures are, to me, they're linked. So when you have that awareness that there's an actual war between you always going on at the same time, you know, it's important to now understand how can you let your spirit now rule your being and not your flesh rule your being. Because if your flesh is ruling your being you're basically an animal in my perspective. But you're just feeding your cravings and urges and everything. But that's not how, I don't believe that's how God designed us to be. So yeah, that's basically, yeah, that's basically it. I think it's amazing. And when you talk about eternal treasures because you've mentioned it severally, what do you mean? Because eternal means something that's living forever, you know, something that won't die. So what do you mean by unlocking the eternal treasures? What are these treasures that are within? That's an amazing question. It's excited me. I read this verse in Ecclesiastes 3 verse 11 that says, he has made everything beautiful in his time and he has also planted eternity into man's hearts. So for me, when I read that verse it like changed my life. It now made me so eager to know, what's this eternity in your heart? How can I understand it? But then I also understood eternity is God's realm. You know, you don't just understand eternity overnight. And so eternal treasures is the good things within you that are gonna take a legacy to, or a lifetime to understand, you know, because I feel like this book is now an eternal treasure that I brought forth from within me. Because even when I'm gone, I'll have this book there, you know, and it's maybe the first of many, I don't know, but you see such a piece like this, or when you hear people say your legacy lives on forever, you find out those people definitely touched the realm of eternal treasures, you know, because they're gone, but their legacy continues and the life that they've lived and the impact they've had continues going on forever after they've gone. So that's the gravity of eternal treasures from my perspective. Wow, amazing, well explained. What about facing doubts? Because that's still part of this book, chapter two, with us pursuing Papas and with you, you know, having had that voice, but you still have doubts within you. You know, there's this imposter syndrome that many people have, I do have it sometimes, you know. So how do you, how do you face those? Well, you see, I definitely don't think the battle of doubt ends just like that. You always have that voice telling you, you shouldn't be doing this, you shouldn't be doing that. What's your credibility? Like for me, even when writing the book, I had a lot of doubts, because again, there were so many excuses that were valid, telling me why you're writing this book. You're only 22, at the time I was 21, what have you achieved yet? Because I have so many big goals and aspirations that I haven't physically seen yet. So it's like, who are you? You know what I'm saying? But then I realized, you know, everyone has a story and the thing that made me silence that voice of doubt was understanding. We all have a unique, like a fingerprint, we all have a unique voice and every voice is valuable. And so for me, I had to discover that voice. And I actually realized that the last four years I've kind of been equipping me to write the book. Those experiences, if they didn't happen, my failures, my disappointments, this book wouldn't have happened. So I'm grateful for every downfall, for everything that kind of like shook me because, you know, I think when you overcome something, it gives you the credibility to start something like even a business, you know? Cause wisdom authorizes your voice. You know, cause when someone hears the voice of wisdom, you know, you immediately, someone can understand, yeah, this person is different. So for me, when you have wisdom within you, it's like your ears receive insight, your eyes start seeing foresight, your heart starts receiving discernment. So those are the things that I had to like now navigate when I'm dealing with doubt is that, yeah, there's a lot of that. There's a lot that I've actually done even down young that many people who are not 50 or 60 haven't actually done. I'm not trying to bash them, but, you know, I like taking risks. So for me, that voice of doubt was really like, yeah, like, you know, I even was talking to my cousin before I started the book. I kept on hearing that voice again, write a book within me. And now I realize that's my spirit. I'm always in tune with that voice because I know now through the experiences I've had in the past that it's definitely my spirit. And my cousin and I were talking, I said, but I don't know. I feel like I should write a book. He said, yeah, same. And then we both established that night there, but we're not gonna do it because why at what, like, what's the point? But then I got home that night and I challenged that thought. I said, why not? And so the next morning, I just opened my laptop and started writing. Started writing just like that. And here we are. Yeah, here we are. Wow, wonderful, I love it. Now your story. People don't know that people, yeah. You are a football, you have been a footballer and that's what took you to the States. And your journey till where you are now and then forming your brand more tagy. So maybe you want to tell us your life journey. Well, football for me has been, it's been my life. From young, I've been playing, like maybe I started playing at like four or five. And so my passion for sports is just, it's only increased. I never felt like I'm a smart, book smart person. I just felt like the world of sports was just exciting. The adrenaline you get, I just loved it. So for me, football was, and I found it as good as I was continuing growing. So firstly, I started when I was, I think 12, I got scouted by this academy called Aspire Academy. And that's when the beginning of disappointments happened because now they were supposed to take me to Uganda for a trial, then Uganda to Europe. But they chose someone else other than me and told me I need time to develop and stuff. So I was disappointed as well. Then when I was thinking I was 16, the national team and the 15th coach wanted to take me in. But at the time I wasn't consistent with my game. So it was very difficult for me to join them because fitness-wise, this is the aspect of the fitness-wise of the game. So after that disappointment, now I started deciding to, okay, let me actually get serious, see how far I can take it. Then I got now scouted by this group, this academy I played that really helped me call Prodigy. There's a guy, some, what do I call it? College Connect International. They basically scout players. So they scouted me, took me to U.S. And then in the U.S. now I went to Atlanta for a trial. The trial went well. So now I went to Pennsylvania. And because of COVID, unfortunately, I didn't play the way I wanted to play because there were so many restrictions. So actually like three weeks into my journey in Pennsylvania, the school shut down. So now I was like, yeah, so where do I go? What happens next? I can't go back home. I just came. So now that's when I went to Michigan. I stayed with my friends there. That's now when we started now just enjoying life. We played a lot of football. We used to train a lot. And then I came back, August school started again. But still, in a season where there's like maybe 20 plus games, we played five games because of the guidelines and everything. So the footage I wanted, because there was like, Pennsylvania was a stepping stone to now go to like the top university. And so because I didn't get the quality footage, I went to a university I wasn't really happy of. But nevertheless, in the book, I talk about that as well. But I had to be like, I'm here now. Let me just focus on what's ahead of me. And yeah, we, just crazy experiences. I didn't know the demands of college football at the time. I know there are a lot of young people who like, young athletes who want to go abroad. But the journey there is not easy. There's a lot of things that you have to be mentally strong, even in any sports. But for me, the thing that hit me the most was I wasn't mentally prepared. I was physically fit, but not mentally prepared at all. And the fact that I didn't want to go to that university didn't help at all. So then obviously another turning point happened. God gave me guidance and I said, okay, I'm here for, I feel like I'm here for a while. So let me just focus. Then my game started becoming better. So now 2022 is when basically I played well, but I just felt like, you know, I want to pursue pro. And I don't want to just be in uni. And I know there's obviously stepping stones, but I felt like, you know, because my uni, this is a long story, but there were 60 players in the team. So first team, 32nd team, 30. So it's intense and everyone's fighting for 11. You know, it's football is only 11 players. So it kind of gets, the competition was toxic in how it was in the first semester. But I just said, you know what? Let me just come back home, we discover myself, we invent myself. And now I've been here for almost two years, but then there's another, now, God willing, another opportunity has come. So I'm just trying to see how far I can take football really. All right, because you can dream as big as you want. You can become as much as you want. And we wish for the best. That's why a tribe of dreamers is, In fact, yeah. So tell us about now more Tagi and the, the foundation of it. Yeah, so the brand basically was actually, so I was supposed to do a brand called me versus me, but I didn't, I'm being honest, I didn't think it was the one. So I was talking to a few, a few guys who are helping me with the brand. And I said, let me just hold on, let me find out within myself what name I can actually use. So I, I was talking to my brother, I said, I have a name called the dreamer. And you know, he wants me to give him credit because he helped me with the name. So, so he said, you know what? Cause I wanted to use Greek. There was a word in Greek for the dreamer that I liked, but then someone had already taken it. So I said, I want to just use Swahili. And so I was like, yeah, that's amazing. Let me even like push now African society, like the African community in Swahili as well, because I didn't want to just do a basic brand that's like Nike or like the other top top brands, but I wanted to kind of push Africa more to the world. So there's the different designs we have coming up that are now inspired by like now the Nigerian kids. So there's different designs we have. So I really feel like Mortaji is, is going to be putting more, more of Africa on the map, you know, in terms of sportswear, in terms of the qualities. Cause we do have quality fabrics here. And so yeah, it's basically just pushing now more Africa as a community. And you know, I love Africa is the pride of everything. So. Wow, I think that's beautiful. You're creating African products by African good quality and sharing it to the world representing us. That's really amazing. As we come to a close on this, what is it that is key for you? You know, if someone were to take away something from this conversation, what would it be? There are two things, find your vision and find your purpose. Because when you find those two things, you're set for life in my perspective. You can avoid so many different distractions that are gonna come your way. And if you're not founded on something, you're not gonna stand, you know, you just be pushed like the wind. So if you do find those two things, whatever field or whatever career it may be, it's so important and it's not just gonna be a benefit to you, but your family. You know, you've seen family businesses, I've stayed for lifetimes. So you could be that person that could change your life, you change your family, change the people that are coming after you wouldn't need to work as hard as you have to work. So you're making it easy, you're paving the path for those who are gonna come after you in your bloodline. So those are the two things I would say. Okay, so vision and purpose let us impact your generation. Wonderful, what do people get you? How can people get this book? How can people get the brand Mutaji? So you can tell us, this is your camera. Okay, so follow me on Instagram at underscoremullyjr. That's where I have the details on the book. That's where you can also find the details on the sportswear. The sportswear is limited edition. We have like six hoodies left, 10 vests left. So we started small, but yeah, they're basically sold out. So get in touch with me on Instagram and also follow Mutaji official on Instagram as well. And yeah, that's where you can find me on underscoremullyjr, is Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. I do a bunch of stuff there. And all the other social media platforms. Yeah, yeah, basically. All right, thank you very much Muli for coming on board and sharing with us. Such amazing insights. You know, full of wisdom. I am one full of wisdom. Clearly. I'm humble, I'm humble. And I'm glad that I got to keep a copy of the book. So grab yours at Mutaji official, is where you can get the sportswear at underscoremullyjr, is where you can get him and get all the details of whatever you need. This has been the first conversation of the day. We take a short break and then Brant Zakwa will be back with more. So stay with us. Thank you.