 Okay. We're live. Okay. Thank you. And I'm just going to go ahead and share my screen. We go. Okay. All right. See, can everybody see my screen? Yes. Yep. Great. Okay. I can do this. Okay. Great. Well, thank you everybody for joining today, July 11th for the climate action and accounting special interest group call. For those of you who are joining for the first time. I want to kind of highlight that the Linux foundation follows a kind of an anti what we call it anti trust policy, excuse me, that you should probably review and this kind of has to do with kind of contributing to an open source community and everything that is involved with that, especially when there's kind of competing organizations contributing to the code. We also follow a code conduct that I that I highly recommend that you that you review. We have a great speaker lineup today Marcus I'm going to kind of do a little bit of just kind of initial kind of kick off what I usually do is invite or anybody who's joining the call today for the first time to introduce yourself. Tell us how you heard about the SIG and the interest that you brought you here. Is there anybody on the call for the first time today any new faces. Please just feel free to unmute yourself and introduce yourself. Great. Well, we have all seasoned community members here today. Fantastic. Well, if you since most people are here a seasoned I will kind of move through this pretty quickly. If you're looking for opportunities to contribute we have several different links in the meeting document that shows both technical and non technical contribution opportunities. I will open up the floor to see if there are any of the working groups that want to provide updates carbon accounting working group standards research working group. If they want to share. Please feel free. And I'm not seeing any hands raised. Okay, great. Okay, so we will go into the presentation by barless side is from from go ledger. And, Barless, you have a, we'd like to share your screen for the presentation. Okay. Thank you so much. I'll stop I'll stop sharing my screen and I think you should be able to share your screen. Alright, just okay. I think I have a little bit of a problem here but let me see if you can. I love zoom. Okay, sorry, because oh my God. That's okay. Thank you. Thank you. This is a spot this Mac. Yeah, I think along the bottom, the bottom of the screen. And I will have to reopen the zoom so I just have to log out and again just a second. We'll be here. Hey, Alex, how you doing how's everything going with the standards group. All as well. Actually, I mentioned last time in the chat I had audio issues but we have main tea for our mentorship program which is part of the hyper ledger or the lens relations collaborative learning program. So yeah, we are really looking forward to seeing what the next six months with our main tea can bring us. Yeah. Excellent. Excellent. Good to hear. We're looking forward to see what comes out of it. It looks like Marco so I can see your screen. And we are ready to go I see along the bottom I see you might want to enter full screen but I can see what you have right now. Can you see, can you see the full screen or just I see a long no I see the along the bottom, the series of different slides and then I can not correct just let me share the correct screen. Just a second. Okay this stuff number two. That's better. Yes, excellent. Okay, sorry. I am actually happy because I just bought my Mac book, but I was usually a Linux and windows users sometimes I just get some, some of my, my desktop mess up. But thank you so much for having me in this presentation today. Today, as you know, my name is Marco size I am CEO of a company, a Brazilian company called go ledger go ledger is a specialized on blockchain development and the hyper ledger fabric and hyper ledger bezel. And today we're going to speak a little bit more about this project that we've been working with for quite a while. And that's basically, they are basically two projects. One is for natural gas inventory inside the pipelines and other. It's the, it's about marketplace for bio method. And with the usage of carbon credits. So they're going to give a brief of this, these two projects and how they integrate together in the future. And at the end, we are trying to make a live demo of both of them. Hope it works. We just set up a blockchain network using all the artifacts that we've been developing until now. And before we begin, I'd like to explain a little bit because this is this project was funded by the Brazilian oil and gas agency in P. And it's so managed by the Brazilian entrepreneurship program institution a sector public institution that we have in Brazil. And especially it's been mentored by Petrobras Petrobras the biggest Brazilian company is our oil and gas company. And since we start developing this project we basically most of a good part of our time is basically understanding and learning all the details of the process of this market all the details of the transactions the operations that happens within the operation departments of bio method of natural gas and so on. So basically that's the biggest concern for us to understand how it works and translate it to a blockchain network that basically what we have been doing. So basically there are two projects one is we call the nickname is go gas. It's basically the one that do the inventory for natural gas inside the pipelines and they will do others call go go bio method. That's the ones that's a marketplace for bio method and other carbon credits and so on. So basically, we're, let me talk a little bit about the past, how it worked in the in the in the past, basically in Brazil. In the some years ago, several years ago, there was only one big player that basically Petrobras. So big Petrobras was the one for the natural gas market that's produce transport distributed storage and trade. All these transactions all the steps that we can see right here was done but only one company in Brazil. That's still the biggest Brazilian company, but it was the basically almost the only one player in the market. But we've been involved in since we are several regular new regulations and laws and new new ways of doing business in the natural gas market has changed this market so basically right now, we do have a free market with several players for production for storage for transportation for distribution for trading. So it's not only right right now is not only one company but basically we do have a very live markets with several companies several entities and organizations in an open economy. Basically, once to deal, make out this transaction should work within the basically from production from the pipelines and so on. That's what's happening right now. This is a but it's still a huge way to go because as you can see this is basically the actual Brazilian pipeline entanglement that we do have right now. As you can see that's lots to be done. That's really lots to be done because here we have around the coast we have a good pipeline entanglement we have a good pipeline set to transport the natural gas from one place to another. But in the center of Brazil that's lots to do. So that's lots we have to bring more the market have to bring more competition more companies building pipelines and developing this stage so we can at the end have a more a more free a more competitive markets and of course is going to bring benefits and consumer that the end buys natural gas and it wants to be cheap it wants to be done in a very productive way. This is the but even though this is the our market size right now in Brazil. We actually spend up to 75 million cubic meters per day, and the average average monthly revenue this is number for 2021 1.25 billion US dollars per month. So it's a big huge markets that we do have here in Brazil. Okay, we are talking about natural gas, but we're when we're talking about especially fossil fuels is important for us to think about climate change. So, let's see what's some of some of the mitigation that we we willing to have in order to have a more modern energy source market here in Brazil and in the other parts of the world. We have to to have renewable sources we have to to have more options for energy generation. We have to reduce the guys missions in order to reduce of course the greenhouse effect, any use of the ways that we have for an example like landfills sewers, plants and another by products for for example by farming. So that's something very important for for us to deal with. And that when you think about that we can think about the biomefin biomefins have several benefits when we start to use the it inside the markets, it does have significant significant significant the low carbon for Prince. It's very easy is a very easy way to transition from fossil fuels because it's already has the grid integration because after we produce the biogas the biomefin we can just inject it inside the actual pipeline so we do not have to have any other pressure to deal with the with biogas with biomefin and you also do have lots of benefits regarding waste management. And when you talk about waste management we also can talk about job opportunities lots of new job opportunities that can reach, especially in Brazil that we we have several problems. Regarding regarding the waste management here in Brazil that and when you start to deal with biogas biomefin, it also bring us several new job opportunities. So, we, the biomefin can bring lots of these carbonizations to the world. So, the the potential that we do have right now in Brazil is up to 3.2 39 millions of tons of CO2 per year, and the average biogas is up to 5.5 million cubic meters per day. So this reduction when you use biomefin we can reach up to 95% of reducing of the CO2 emissions in relation to the fossil fuels, because when you deal with biomefin, especially we consume in order to produce biomefin you consume the CO2 in order to produce so it's kind of a good deal to work with biomefin in order to reduce the impact of carbon footprint in the world. But it's also a very there are several difficulties regarding biomefin markets, especially because it's a distributed market. So you have some some difficulty in accessing the certified producers and their product their product availability. And sometimes you do have some lack of trust that's very important because if you try to use some some product that assure that you will have some kind of the discarbonization, you have to, they have to be reliable. You have to trust them. And if you do have some lack of trust regarding the origins deception of the project that you can have a problem. And there's also some problems about the absence of a focal point, especially for business for trading for commercialization and some lack of guarantees when the actors need to work with long term purchase with long term contracts, that's some something that's have to do to deal with the Brazilian markets. But right now it's very there's a large there's a really big road to track there's a that that's lots of lots of work to be done, because right now, our production of my own Athens has only reached to 2% of the its potential. And we can have an environment impact up to one million ton reduction of CO2 per year. And we want to reach the volume in 2030 of far for billion cubic meters per year. So, this, this slide right now shows something we've been learning so far we've been in this project for up to two years right now. So basically we learn how it's done how it's been done in the past, especially when we do we try to make all the, all the actors of this markets, the natural gas of the biomass and so on, how they do work with the orders, and it's very usual to find lots of spreadsheets. So when you try to understand the details of all the actors that are around this, the process of for the event that the natural guys inventory, financial issues or the bio math and so on, it's very usual that we do have to understand all the spreadsheets that are sent, some of them are sent by email, some of them are sent by FTP, some of them that have some kind of robots that transform the spreadsheets to to integrate to ERPs. So that's a bit of a problem, as you can see, because we are dealing with lots of first with a very important product, and with lots of money. So if any any mistake that you may may reach may find in some of the spreadsheet that can bring lots of problems in the future. So when we deal about the this integration we have lots of actors someone with different roles. So each profile of them have different roles in the process, for an example the certifier of a bio math and lot, or the the producer, the producer of a natural gas. A lot. So lots of this, of course we do have the traders that the ones that really buys and sells all the products project products that we do have in this process in this network. So it's very important to have a very good accountability. And as you know, blockchain is the best way to have a good accountability as we since the inception of blockchain Bitcoin, that's basically a very temper proof accountability network. So that's it so we can use blockchain, especially in the distributed database. So the database that's basically governed by blockchain. So you can have a very good and neat way to control all the transactions that you may have you may find in your in your network in your system your product in your process. And that's why we, when we find this project this project was being proposed by Petrobras. And when we found out the details of this, this project we proposed the usage of hyper ledger foundation artifacts, especially hyper ledger fabric so basically what we've been doing since the beginning of the inception of the, of the project is basically developing new artifacts news march counters chain codes and so on, in order to them for them to understand the process the workflow of each process that we're dealing with. So, at the end of the day you have a big the distributed database with the API that can be connected to all the, all the actors of this of the networks, in order for them to integrate these their legacy systems that's basically the main, our main goal our main focus is basically to make it all of them have the same language, and this language is going to be to be traced by a blockchain network. So let's, let's give you a little brief, a brief and a very resumed way of the workflow that we've been dealing in these two projects. First one about the gas transportation workflow. The first one. The first thing you need to know in a gas transportation process is the availability and they are herald by the contracts that the pipeline companies have with the traders. The herald, they register the their contracts showing all the availability that they have inside the pipelines for the for each trader to understand. So, after that we start the process of trying to to inject and if draw natural gas from the pipelines, and it's a process of promises and confirmation. The promise that are doing is basically the programming our account account inside the the operator room, a nomination. So when you do a nomination is you you were promising either to to inject or to withdraw the natural gas from the pipelines. After that, the pipeline company tried to match this nomination to basically two nomination one for inject and the other for a drawing in order to confirm. And this confirmation has a technical name called age closure. And when you reach the gauge closest it means it's ready to inject is made to process all the all the all the the transportation is very important to understand that we are not tracking tracking them or luckily, we are not tracking natural gas because it's basically an accountability, then the gas that you inject is not the gas that you withdraw. So basically, it's something that you have to understand which pipelines has the inventory has enough gas in order to withdraw after the inject injection in another place. So basically it's accountability process that we have the right now. And in the end, you do have the injection from the trader the original trader. And we do have if draw from the the the end user that wants to consume and of course you'd have some accountability and some details, especially about calories, because you do not pay for for the volume. You pay for the cubic matters you pay for the calories how much the gas has can be burned in order to produce energy. So basically that's it. So when you go to the bio method workflow. That's a different role, especially when you try to buy and sell the other, you have a step of enrollment of all the actors, especially the producers. So you can have the other the producers and also the consumers and you have some certification companies, they are going to certificate endorse the bio method lots in order for them to be consuming and as a bio method gas because after you injected the gas inside the pipelines there's no difference, because it's basically the you're going to burn gas at the end of the day. So basically you have to have a very reliable certification process and that's basically part of the workflow. So after the certification, you will start offering for a buying and sell off of either the, the, the bio method lot and also carbon credits. We are going to work this project is going to be going to release two types of carbon credits. One is named CBU. CBU is basically a discarbonization credit that we do have here in Brazil and the other is called guys hack and another kind of decarbonization credit that you do have here in Brazil. The platform is going is it will be able to work with both CBU and guys hack and the same platform and for and after that you have an order and sell book for buy and selling and that's a process that is done at the end of the carbon credits life cycle. That's called retirement that basically when you assume that that's kind of carbon credits has already discovered this carbonized and cannot be used anymore. So it's registered inside the blockchain networks that's done and that's it. So as we propose as we blockchain as the perfect solution. Actually we were glad it was not the one who proposed it Petro Brice already knew when he released this this this project to the market see Petro Brice away already wanted it to be a blockchain platform, because it needs to be distributed. You need to be transparency among all the other actors, you need to have all the security out the the immutability of the history you need to be out the digital signing of the actors, you need to be credible. So basically, that's it that's that's basically the main concepts of a blockchain network that we can have right here. And with lots of impacts that we might have right now so basically about financials, you can monetize that that's some some details of the projects because basically in the end of the project we will want integrators to have their own nodes so that they can they can sell their their processing power to other guys oil gas companies and in order to work with them, other to work with long term contracts, more competition in the market that I told you, like a contract values and more reliable funds, more competition real real time buy and sell northern books, real time accountability in both platforms, business agility process with reality that's very important, especially when you think about institutional image, because right now it's not only about using energy, you have to think about the word you have to think about the future of the planet so you have to be a compatible about ESG the agenda 2030 transparency innovation and so on, in order to have to use out the renewable energy energy sources with more sustainability and governance at the end of the day. I go ledger, but basically we are, as I told you, a blockchain specialized company basically we do not only we only use my pleasure foundation artifacts, and other than that we also do have our own orchestration platform that's called go fabric. I want to show in this demonstration, we are also a strategic defense company in Brazil, we have several prizes we have a very specialized team, in order to develop engine codes and to create blockchain networks, we also have some some good clients Brazil petrobras is one of them but Brazil is the biggest Brazilian bank electrolysis one of the one of the is the Brazilian electricity company and so on. And basically, we do have some milestone are going to show where we are right now. Basically, we for this project we pass for a mentorship for with petrobras that's already done the inception phase, either for go gas and go by a method. And we already finished the development of our MVP either for for go gas is already done it's 100% per percent done. And we've go by a method and we basically are right now in the trying to reach the middle is up to a little bit more than 30% that we have reached it. And we are trying to go to the market so go gas right now is being her is being shown to other players in order to try and to understand what's the possibilities that we might have for them to use the platform at the end of the day and go by method will pass for the same process. After we finish this this project at the MVP. This is the after the after we we have the mentorship we developed several artifacts with with the petrobras team. So in the end of the inception phase we already had several front ends we already have the network the API is working, and we show by them actually that some of the was part of the project. In the future, we will integrate blow both platforms because as I told you, after you produce and certify a bio method lock. It's very, very straightforward to connect to the pipelines and of course to the other project to go gas, in order to create all the accountability inventory and so on about about this project. So this is the parts that I stopped the presentation, and I start doing the demonstrations, which I'm going to go live demo right now show a little bit of the artifacts of both of them. So basically what we've been we've been we created for this, this live demo is basically one hyperledge of fabric is being developed deployed specifically for this demo with four organizations and two channels, one for go gas with two York's basically the administration of pipeline company or pipeline consortium, or a trader between the company or trading consortium wanting code in this channel, and one API, I'm going to be a little bit more technical right now I'm going to give you some details about hyperledge of fabric development. So basically, that we've been done and we done the same about our method that basically use both admin and trader appears nodes and also use another organization that's called certifier in order to make everything work. It's have one API per organization, and it does, all of them have their, their web front ends. So basically, that's it. So let me just change my, I'm going to show you the, oh sorry, I forgot the, I forgot to log in just a second. Okay. Okay, okay, he's here. Okay, this is go gas. This is what fabric is basically go ledger orchestrator. And as we can see right here we do have one hyperledge of fabric network. That's called go gas demo. We have two channels. One of them is go biomefin. That's where we can find out the other details about the biomefin process and in order is called go gas channel. And as we can see right here that we do have some, we basically deployed this in some very small HWS EC2 virtual machines. Basically, that was it so we do have the administration we have the pipeline, we have the trader, and of course with biometrics and we have the administration and trader but we have another organization that's called certifier. So that's what we're going to do. And at the end of the day, our organization are going to connect with this, with this network using some standard APIs. We do have these APIs right here. I can show, of course I'm not going to use the APIs because it would take so long in order to make it work. So I'm going to make some demonstrations for the administration part of go gas network. Unfortunately, the front end is in Portuguese. I'm sorry, we are going to translate it later. But actually, basically we do have some, I'm going to show several front ends in order to make them connect to the proper APIs to the proper peers in order to make the proper transactions and the workflow I just shown to you. So basically right here, I have this very simple I have already done some some few transactions here in order for you to understand that's basically that's nothing here is basically zero cubic meters that being transported. But we can show for an example as a demonstration of this platform that we do have two contracts to availabilities to contrast one for injection. That's basically been done by the trader Petrobras and other for each withdrawal that's been being done for the trader trader trader that we've done right here and they they have this capacity here they have the availability of two 2000 cubic meters and so and that's it. So basically, let me show you about the about the the and let me show you just a second. Okay, just in case this is right now I'm being connected to the node of the trader of Petrobras that's already know his own contract. And he also has a process for as I told you for programming as we call nominations is a promise, and he has just promised to make an injection of to 5500 cubic meters and the pipeline. And that's it that's the promise that's been made. So right now what I need I need the other part to have some control parts in order to make the proper the proper withdrawal. So as I as I show you just me just here right here. This is basically. Okay, now I'm connected to the proper peer I'm connected to the proper node of the blockchain and I will have I have I have seen that I had to have this contract right right now. So let me register on your nominations going to be today. I also want 500 is going to be a I right now I'm registering the contract and also the pipeline I want to use. And it show me the con the some options for the console park we do have only do have one so it's kind of matching off the off the other contract. So basically I'm going to use this matching right here. So all of them are going to be connected in order for for me to start processing this process right here can be done in several in several. Several steps. So I right now have two nominations they are matching. So who can make the endorsement of this process, basically, is the is the pipeline. So let's go to the pipeline right here. And now in another front end, unfortunately, I cannot show you all the little details of the API so it does work but basically I have, I do have here and the pipelines knows that you already have two nominations. And if you're ready to make a programming you ready to rate, try to reach the gate closure with creating a new program so basically, I'm going to connect both both nominations in order to try to make the proper injection So that's it. After that, after I make I need the proper confirmation for the other parts. So let me go back very fast right here. So I can, I can show here the nomination just a second. Okay, is it. Oh, sorry, this is. Okay, it's bending. I'm going to confirm. Okay, so me as the trader, I just confirm the, the, the first step. And right now in the blockchain already see that it's been confirmed and the. Okay, let me go back here and now programming. Let me just check here is basically from I think it's here. Just a second. Sorry. Okay, so I'm going to confirm both process. And it's already been done by either the injection trader and other dead by the by the, the, the, the withdrawal trader. Okay, so basically I can go back right now to the pipeline and in order to, to make all the, let me just connect right here I have to check the status in order so I can confirm. Okay. And now I can continue and say let's, let's do that everything's confirmed. I'm just going to execute. It's already gate closure. So I'm going to execute the transaction. And so I will make all the proper, all the proper details about this process and that I do have right here. And at the end there's a little there's a final step around this process. That's basically the one that we call the certification of receiving of the of the process that we can see right here. So basically it's called the receiving bit. But right now, sometimes the amount that's been certified is not the correct amount. For an example, if I, I said I injected 500. At the end, I just certified 400. Probably is going to be some stock, some, some inventory that some be some, some, some, some, some rest inside the pipelines that basically one as per an example as the administrator. I can see right here. I am the administrator right now I can see all the details that's been done in this portfolio portfolio outside the pipelines, and I can check for an example, which, which pipelines do have some stop which do not, which needs to be more compensated, and so on. And that's, that's part of the deal. I'm not going to make more and more detail because now right now I want to go to the bare biomefan. That's right here. And right now I'm going to show a little bit of the process of the biomefan that we do have here already we have. And as I told you, we do have some some process of creating biomefan lots. And we can show them. We can show them all the lots that we might might have inside the process. So basically when I, when I go for an example to the to the trader to the producer of biomefan. I can see all the lots that this has, but it needs to be certified, as I told you so I can reach a blockchain node, a blockchain peer in order to endorse the certification. And I'm going to do this by the reaching the proper, the proper front front end of the certification, as I can see here. So basically I'm going to register a transaction of certification of this lot in order for it to be available to all the buying and selling around this this network. After that we can already, we can already make some some offering for example create a buying trade an offering right now. So let me go to the to a trader inside the network. So as I can see here and I will create an offering. I will create this this offering right here for for basically an inspiration for the end of the month. And we do have in this case we can have several offerings for selling and reaching and so one. One of them is basically for the biomefan lot but we can also make all the offerings off the guys heck and also off the cover credit name see you in this project, I'm going to make basically for for for biomefan right now I'm going to put this in the price and basically insert this inside inside the this offering that's I am having for reaching for buying some some other for buying out of the process for buying, but I'm biomefan lot right here. So, let me go back to the to the to the producer. Okay, so I will begin the negotiation here at the producer. Okay, so basically, I'm going to go here already see so I'm going to accept this this this negotiation. I'm going to register I'm going to enter the lot I already have so I'm going to put the expiration date. So, right here, I could start a negotiation of money, how much we can offer how much you can reach and so on so in order to register around the book if I want to sell, I want to be a little bit. I want a more higher price, for example, I want to it to be 11 and so on. So basically, this is the beginning of buy and sell selling process, registering in our ordering and buying book in a blockchain network. Basically, at the end of the day, I will have all this all this information if I go back here to the trader right now I can see all this. All this buying and selling and I can start a negotiation in order to make some create some messages in blockchain or to update the negotiations and so on. I can make the delivery and so I'm not going to finish right now because we are almost in the in the end of the of this presentations I'll leave some some some space to some time in order to make all the, all the questions. And just before we finish, let me just let me just make some, I'd like to go to to make some to to great. So to make some some some thanks to some some people that just was very helpful. As you can see, this is not our project we basically been around this but basically lots of people for NP from Sebrai for an example your home has been very helpful. And in Petrobras in the in the go gas platform is we do have Carlos Brazil we do have Marcelo Mouta Gabriel Seber. Other in the biomass and you also have Anna Torres, Luis López Carlos Herman. Also in Petrobras do have an specialist for blockchains also a very frequent. Hyperlidia fabric chapter member that's Magno Cavalcanche and a very special thank you for one person in particular. That's been basically the architect of this project is not in Petrobras anymore he's been retired so his name is Renato Costa, without him none of this would be possible is kind of the mind behind all the ideas, we basically the company that's been that's been that's working with this project. Thank you for calling me if you have any any questions I'm ready to answer if I can. Thank you Marcus that was, that was great. And it's a really elegant solution. You guys have done a lot of great work. This is something that this group has thought a lot about. I'm going to open up the floor I've got several questions for you but I wanted to open up to guests to raise our hands. If anybody has a question they'd like to ask. Not seeing any. Okay. One question that I have this so you are building on fabric, and you're building on an open source environment. And also, you know, developing commercial application. Can you talk to us a little bit about what you're thinking is as far as commercializing the software in the open source environment and your approach to that. So I'm going to ask this trading of the project is going to be done by basically basically connecting, especially to associations that we might have several in several in several ways. We're trying to reach these associations special for oil and gas that's a have to and needs to to make out the other proper, sometimes for regulations perspective so to the laws and so on but sometimes to make it work, and we try to reach them in understand that this can be a solution for them. So they can use to make out the proper tracing and have the details using blockchain. And of course we do have lots of lots of lots of work regarding the privacy and stuff. So basically that's we have been trying to reach nine right now in order to trade the platform, especially go gas that's already, it's already done. And after that we're going to make the same, the same way we've go by mapping. Interesting. And when you, you kind of mentioned that only about 2% of the kind of biogas potential is being developed. And I'm assuming. Well, I'm not should make any assumptions my question is, you know, there's some different levers to make sustainable kind of biogas, you know, a high demand product, you know there's there's as far as kind of making it profitable green finance. You have different government regulations like the carbon border adjustment mechanism mechanism. What are some of the drivers that you're seeing that you think will make it feasible to move from that 2% to that 98%. In Brazil, we, we, there's lots of laws and of course there's lots of regulations that's being done in order to reach that, especially some some some projects, but here we do have an institutions called renova renova is basically the one that deal with one of the carbon credits certifications is called CBO and probably these institutions with the other with the other sector public resolutions that we do have here is going to foster more and more the users of of bio biogas of biofuel by by the next years is basically is being cruising right now. And I do think that basically with all the fostering that we already have, not only, of course from public sector that's very important but also from the future of people, because right now they do have some lots of concern about their the usage of the fossil fuels and so on that's basically we are adding seeing this problem that's reaching with the climate change that we are having right now. So, basically, this is, I think it's going to be a very at the at the beginning as low pace, but it's going to to steer. And so we can have a very high slope in order to to reach a very good percentage of the usage of biofuel bio biogas and bio method and so on. Right. Fantastic. There, within our group we have several community members thinking site Chen and Bertrand drew who unfortunately weren't able to make this call who've done a lot of thinking in some development around kind of emissions profile tracking particularly in the oil and gas space. So basically focusing on on on how to kind of create a scope three profiles beginning with oil and gas but eventually kind of moving to the whole supply chain. Have you spoken with with either of those gentlemen yet. But I really willing to. Yeah, this is basically we're in the beginning of the process of showing the platforms basically the first the first step just been the go gases has just been finished for the last month. Right now it's in a process of showing and making understand what we can be do what can be done with with the other blockchain that we have. It's not that that's not a static platform. We want to evolve. We want to reach the proper actors the proper companies and organizations and see what needs to be done in order to create evolving all the all the blockchain transactions that we might have. So we can have for an example here. This, I'm going to show you for example all the details of one of the transactions that we already have inside the the each each item of this it's a it's a blockchain transactions that we do have here. So sometimes we need to change as we're using hyper larger fabric is you can evolve the smart contracts and so on. So in order to understand all the needs of the companies. This is going to be evolved so they can reach they can use and so on that's something we willing to do to do in the future. Yep, yep. Totally great. And that's, that's a great approach that is the approach. Another question of you. Are you familiar with the the carbon emissions task force, this part of IWA. They're in the process of developing essentially standards for the tokenization of carbon emissions. Is it kind of a DLT environment. Are you familiar with that work at all. Not yet. The tokenization issue we started to study in order to make proper the proper token special for carbon credits. But not yet, but basically sparked by the spark of the of the process, especially if go back we got go biomefin in order to make the proper tokens should be released in the network. Yeah. So I think maybe it might be good to kind of schedule a follow up call and try to kind of help connect some of these dots and make some these connections with you guys. One thing I also wanted to ask with the with the different members of the community that are on the call. Any, you know, with regards to the open source development work that you're doing or there is there kind of any opportunities for them to kind of get involved or kind of participate or there any kind of key challenges that you're looking to solve. I would like to highlight. Right now we want you to right now we want to reach out all the, all the, the groups that are dealing with this and try to, to connect with them in order to reach and to understand all the needs that they might have and all the change that they vote the evolution that we might have right here. So anyone that willing to understand a little bit more technical or business or trading or about about anything please connect to us. We are ready to talk to basically we talked about blockchain for fun. That's basically what we do. We've been doing all day for the last years. So if anyone have any doubt any any information that might want a little bit more just connect me in the social network and LinkedIn, or, or we do have a YouTube channel as well. Basically, we are there. We are ready to talk to to any that wants to to understand a little bit more of the platforms. Great. Absolutely. Well thank you Marcos. This has been fantastic presentation, very productive. Great to see the progress that you've made and we'll look forward to kind of connecting and exploring opportunities in the future. Thank you so much. Very good to be with you, any, any time and any place you, you want to, to, to reach us, please connect us. Thank you so much. Thanks Marcos. Thanks everybody.