 Hi everyone, welcome back to Tiny Mike Interviews. I'm your host Ali and today we have Ashish. And you're from? I'm Australia, I'm from Australia, but I'm from Cloud 3 Podcast. So actually, this is your first time at DEF CON, right? This is literally my first time in DEF CON. So being your first time at DEF CON, what are you looking forward to and what actually brought you here in the first place? So we've been running Cloud 3 Podcast for three years and the most exciting place I've been told to hang out for Cloud people is Cloud Village. And yes, we're here. So we definitely want to be here and definitely support people and meet people like yourself as well. And other people in the industry are doing awesome job. And because the thing is, on the internet, there are not a lot of people who are kind of like, oh, well, you talk about Cloud, but you're kind of like, no, I know Ali, but what does that look like in real life? I have no idea. So that this way, I get to meet real people and follow change, not on a Zoom call. That's been the best part. So yeah, that's what I've been looking forward to. Meeting a lot of people, doing the conversations like these is what I'm looking forward to. So you've been here for a little bit. What has been your favorite parts so far about being at DEF CON and what are you looking forward to? Oh my God. There are a number of badges. I feel like I didn't know this was a thing until I came here. And now I'm just like, I'm going to walk into each of the villages and get to collect them. Now I know why there were these pictures for, like everyone hangs these pictures. Like, what are those? And like, oh my God, this is like, I have respect for DEF CON now. Like there's like a new level of respect. I mean, I respect before, but now I'm like, oh, how many can I have these? Like even little things like, if you look at this one, it's a Buddhist chant over there. I was wondering what this was. Yeah. And so I was talking to one of the guys over there and this is a Buddhist chant. And how cool is that? To be able to like have little elements. I mean, I'm a fashion person. So every detail matters kind of like yourself. So, yeah. So that's why I'm like, I really love the fact that they've got battery operated, these things like glowing around, walking around. So yeah, that's what I'm looking forward to. Are you going to do like the, any of the CTFs while you're here? What are you feeling? Yeah, so definitely I want to part, well, as much as I would love to not embarrass myself, I would love to participate in it and not show my results to anyone so that I don't find that three hours later she should still have the same place where you started before. Oh, I feel that. Yeah, apart from just banging my head. I'm like, yeah, but I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to, I'm not going to, I'm going to try and embarrass myself in private and try and go. Is there any one talk that you're just like, it's your number one must go see, what is that one talk? Ooh, for me, I think there was a talk from Rodrigo, he's from Brazil and there's only a handful of people from Brazil over here. He's talking about AWS AppStream, Amazon AppStream. And that's right in here? Yeah, it's in Clarvillage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in Clarvillage. So he's got us talk tomorrow and yeah, I'll definitely recommend checking it out. So essentially the reason why it's important is because when you kind of talk about Amazon and everything, everyone talks about the common services and instant response, but he's talking about a service which a lot of people work on but nobody talks about it publicly. Hey, how do you work on this? So I'm curious to see what his research came out with when he did instant response for that. And I'm really curious if I can have him in the podcast as well after that, it'll be pretty awesome, yeah. So where can people find you? How do you want to be found? And what do you want to shout out? I definitely want to shout out Clarvillage. There's a village for girls who hack as well. I saw that walking over here. I thought, definitely recommend that. People should check that out. And I'll definitely, so you can find us on Clarv Security Podcasts on every podcast platform, every YouTube platform or video platform, LinkedIn, YouTube. The website is www.clarvsecuritypodcast.tv. And yeah, the TV, because we're creating our own YouTube for cloud security. And if you want to find me in particular, you can find me at Hashish Rajan, which is same as Hashish, for people who know what that is, Hashish Rajan on Twitter. That's me. And you can find me there. Awesome. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you for having me. This is so exciting. I finally got to meet you as well. Yes, of course, of course. Thank you. Say bye, everyone. Bye.