 Another episode of the Procrastinators podcast. First one back from Radcon, boys! Yeah, boy! Not sad about it. I am the best guy ever, and we're joined by Mr. Munchie. If there's one thing that you know about me, if there's one thing that friends know about me, it's that I've never been more nice than I am when I have a bunch of chocolate in my belly. Yummies! Give me the chocolate. Ben Sainte is here. Please, Nate. Mr. Munchie is Munchie's father's name. No, he has an unrelated name. Munchie is, you know. And Hippocrite is here as well. I'm a nice guy to everyone, but myself. And a special guest, Mr. Double Munchie, Munchie's father. Hello, and it's me, Mr. Munchie's Double Munchie. I supply the chocolate. That's why my son is so fast, because I have the back of chocolate right before me. I am into force feeding. That's my sole thing. No penetration, no any sex-ordinary chocolate. Well, there he is. Thanks for talking with us, Double Munchie. Let's give him a big round of applause. Yeah, thanks for being here. Thanks for stopping by. All right, enough retardation. What's the talk about here? Define it. What's going on? Tell us. All right, here you go, everybody. The topic today is why being nice sucks. Why being nice is reprehensible behavior that you should not partake in. But, Nate, what is the word nice me? Does it mean something with army vets? Is it some sort of pinching plan? Is there something to appease? Is it a town in France? Let me tell you that that's right. That's a very nice thing. Here we go. Nice. Adjective. Nice. An adjective used to describe someone with exceptional skill in a certain area. The term is never used pejoratively or sarcastically. And here's the example. My man is real nice on the microphone. Stop. Stop. Okay. That's the worst possible job. Here's another one. Okay, here's another one. Nice. This one has a bunch of definitions. Okay, you're going to like this. Number one. I doubt it very much. Talented. I don't know where this like talented thing is coming from. I mean, I guess it's sort. Okay. Number one. Talented. Number two. An interjection similar to saying word when you are in agreement with what someone just said or you approve of what they said. Wait. Number three. Number three. High on marijuana. These are the worst fucking jokes. There's another one that says nice. Something you say to the guy you don't want to fuck. Like, hey, you're a real nice guy, dot, dot, dot, but pregnant pause in my non-pregnant vulva. Well, this is a literal catastrophe. This is terrible. There are literally no good definitions of the word nice. Here's my definition of the word nice. Okay. Nice is like, it's nice, but it's not great. That's what I think. You know what? Actually, there is one more and that is pretty accurate. Here's like a longer definition. This one's like kind of okay. Nice. Used by men to describe all women in an off-handed way when expressing their real opinions will cause them great troubles. For example, they could be under threat of being slapped or dumped by their girlfriends or getting punched and kicked into a pile by their buddies. Oh, my God. This is terrible. Punched or kicked into a pile by their buddies. By their buddy? Like, what? Hey, man. You don't fucking talk that way about a lady. Your girlfriend is a queen. Roundhouse kick into the pile like the rest of the misogynist. I've got a bag full of misogynists that I'm going to stuff you into. If one of my friends ever comes up to me and starts telling me that like I'm not treating my GF enough like a queen, we're going to have some problems. He's going to knock me off your couch. Okay, guys, we have to do it. We have to deviate from our God canon here and come up with our own definition. We cannot do it. We must. Like below this is number six. The plan is all we have. Number one, skillful. Number two, high. Why is high? Why is high happening? Why is like weed related to the word nice in any way? What? I think we're behind the times, guys. Number seven, nice. Aesthetically pleasing. That's like kind of sort of specific. Well, there you go. Maybe we should use Google instead of maybe we should bang it. We really should be banging it. That's that's the solution here. Okay. What a fucking clusterfuck. Defying nice has been the greatest clusterfuck in all PCB history. You know what I'll bet? I'll bet there's some like child's play, baby shit. Trying to find out what the word nice means impossible. Hey, what's that website that has like it's always like how to blank and then there'll be a bunch of steps with like really ugly drawings. Rimezone.org. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, wiki how wiki how wiki how wiki how and look up how to be nice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We got wiki how. Oh, my God. This is not nice right now. Okay. Okay. It's not nice. I'm going to give an abbreviator. Okay. Number one, smile. Number two, acknowledge other people. Number three, be a good listener. Number four, be courteous, polite and helpful. You're welcome. Thank you. Let me just amend that to include trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. To my scouts. Boy scouts for life. Practice empathy. Ooh, I don't know about that one. Look at this picture of Nate, best guy ever being empathetic. I'm fucking blind. I am blind in this situation. He had to he's losing his sight. He had to develop a new sense, a new sense to help him navigate the world. And that sense was empathetic. What you're actually describing here is Mr. Clean being nice to me, post blindness, because of the other guy asking for help or asking if this blind man needs help. You're blind. You're actually like hobbling. That's not a walkie. That is a crutch. You're holding. My legs have been destroyed. This evolves into monsters 2.0. We can spend the overtime on WikiHow. We spent eight minutes trying to find out what the word fucking nice means. We have to get back on track here. All right. Here we go. Pleasant. Pleasant is really what it means. Allow me to have the floor. Allow me to have the microphone pass me. Wait, wait, wait. First, I just want to say that I don't think anything in the world bothers me as much as the drawings on WikiHow. It's worse than that. The kind of feeling I get looking at WikiHow. It's kind of like how when you see furry art that's really furry, and it's like, ooh, it's got that furry feeling about it. WikiHow is the same. The dial on the raise turned to maximum for way past the legal amount. My problem with the drawings on WikiHow is kind of similar to my problems with being nice in general. It's kind of just like basic. It's kind of boring. It's kind of uninteresting in surface level, but we'll get to it. That leads into my... I want to have the first word here. This topic is vile and embarrassing. This topic literally makes me feel like sad, that I live in a world, and I live in a group where this topic can be seen as okay to be... I can't believe it's real. I cannot believe that we are such a fucking pretentious, sanctimonious, conceited group that the topic why being nice sucks is treated with any sort of respect whatsoever. It's embarrassing, and frankly, I think this is the worst topic. Not like a mom's... Did you not suggest this topic? This is the worst topic because it just shows a look into our souls and how dirty and broken we are. It's been said many times, don't treat the PCP like they're idols. We are broken individuals, but that cannot be resonated any higher than it is right now with the topic why be nice sucks. This proves that none of us have love or deserve love, and we should be shot immediately if you see us in the streets. Any of us. Was this not your suggestion? It was, but only because I hated it so much that it was on the docket. Fair enough. Listen, the reason why it is perfectly reasonable to bring up this topic is because just like Ben, everyone out there isn't using their brain properly when they think about the world. They're not using their brain right. Being nice is the most shameful that one can take in their life. Listen, listen, all right. This is going to come down to the topic of like nice guys for me. That's what it boils down to, and you know, nice girls and anybody. Nice guys finish last. It is the most quoted phrase in human history for a reason, and it's because it's so true. Everyone understands this on an instinctual biological level that being nice is a mistake across the board. Never do it. Never apologize for who you are. Never apologize for what you need. I feel like I'm on both sides of this because like I understand that yeah, nice guys finish last for a reason it's true, but I like being nice. I like being wholesome and good and doing good things for people. You like finishing last? Well, no. The thing is, there's no pressure here. Like niceness can be overdone, and I think that's what nice guys finish last means because if a nice guy has nothing but being nice, they will not get very far. They have to be cool as well. Hold on. I'm sure this like realistically doesn't need to be said because we can all imagine what Nate's position is. Like we already know it in our mind, but Nate, obviously you're going to come down hard on being nice because that's just the kind of guy you are. So please explain your relationship with being nice and having warmth and loving. Let me blackpill everybody as I do all the time on being nice. Listen, being nice is a fucking scheme to make you subservient to the rest of the world. It is a literal trick. Don't do it. Don't fucking do it. Okay, here's the real deal. Let's say you're a guy and you're just like a 16-year-old guy and you want a girlfriend. How do you get the girlfriend? Yeah, it makes out for life, my brothers, but like I was putting that aside, let's say this is your goal. You don't get there by just like going around and being pleasant. You get it by just doing the things that you want to do in life and then people gravitate to your animal-like sexuality. This is already like what? The argument here is not that niceness is bad. It's just that it is not a substitute for a real personality. It is not a personality type in itself. It is just a set of like, you know, give people the benefit of the doubt. Don't die on every single hill of every argument you have. It's just like a code of like, don't be a dick. And it's like not a personality that you can astrive yourself. And if you try to, you will finish last because that's not real. I have a personal history. I definitely have personal issues when it comes to niceness. Because my childhood, I did the whole being a nice guy thing and it did not work out. And I deeply resent the people who kind of implied that that was the right way to go. If I instead, this is like being a nice boy, you'll get what you want. Not true. Okay, okay. Like the idea that like, like the word nice has been boiled down to just specifically being a nice guy is very narrow. But that's fine in relation to nice guys. I completely agree that you shouldn't like just be like, like, like a nice guy. Because that's that just makes you a weirdo asshole. But I really don't like, like, like, why is being nice bad exactly? Okay, here's why don't you want to be nice and just like, live your life as a nice person on a conceptual level on a on a conceptual level. There is nothing wrong with being nice. Like if you've got two guys, like let's say you've got like, well, I don't know, when I think of nice guys, I think of I think of this I heard a long time ago. And it was like, if you've got like a girl who's like attracted to two guys, and like one is like a normal guy. Well, first of all, let me say slut would continue. Yeah, exactly. It's well, it's more like just like, who is a woman going to be attracted to like a really attractive guy who's like, who is also nice. But this guy is like, he's like, let's just say he's like rich. He's he's really fun to be around. He's exciting. But then he's also really nice and he treats her well. Like obviously that's like literally the dream guy. But as opposed to like, let's say you've got just like some average looking guy, but he's not quote unquote a nice guy, like he's a little more edgy is a little more rebellious. Like the girl is going to be interested in like the guy who's got everything going on and is also nice, because niceness in itself is not actually a bad thing. But yeah, when it comes down to for me, and I know this is this is a personal thing, it's that when you're nice as your identity, I know that's what you were talking about before. And I think we're all in agreement on this, but it's when you use niceness as you're like attractive trait is like, I'm nice. Therefore, I deserve good things to happen to me in life than your that and as I was told to believe earlier in my life. So I'm a big negative implications with it. I feel like this there's this layers of being nice where it's like, that's true. Like nice as like a vague like, you know, say please and thank you. But then there's like niceness in terms of like, you, you are unconfrontational. You don't take a stance on any issue. All I'm saying is, I agree with everything. All I'm saying is, if you're, because I don't like confrontation, if you don't hit your significant other, she'll never know how good it is when you're not hitting her. That's what I'm saying. All of the picture I've tried to pay. This is retardation. This is retardation. All these blanket statements about like, like what will a girl like, like just a girl that you've whipped up in your mind, what will she pick? Well, because guys don't need to be nice to each other. Niceness is useless between men. It doesn't matter. What does that even mean? You know exactly what it means. It means that we care about what each other can offer to each other on like a, you know, I want to be nice to people. It is just a basic human instinct to be nice to the people that you care about. This, this is where it comes down to you being Nate. This is a Nate being Nate thing. If you're talking about like Nate, we were being nice to each other in the chat yesterday and it was nice. Did you notice Ben? And we all felt better. I did not comment. Ben, Ben, okay. Yesterday we were all, I was saying like guys, okay, I won't talk about what it was, but I specifically did not comment in a positive way. And I almost commented like, yeah, I'm not going to be a pussy and like join this conversation. You were in there being, being all sad about some shit. And then the rest of us were like, and the rest of us were like, yeah, we are also kind of sad about the shit. And the rest of us were like, oh no, it's fine. We're all going to be fine. And I know, I know. Thank God, thank God that Nate did not stoop to the level of being like, yeah, you guys are okay too. Yeah, I maintained my frame and that's why I smash the puss on the daily. That's why. So the problem here is just, it's a different, it's a different point of perspective. It's a different world view. You see, like, like us, well, I'll speak for myself. I, I value being nice. I value human connection. I value living my life to its fullest. I value classical ideals. And I like when the world is happy. I like when I am happy. I like good things. And that's why I like being nice because it is an unequivocal good thing in almost every context whatsoever. We can get to unconditional love. I agree. That's not a Morley's town thing to do, but that's, that's a 0.1% of, like, like there's no, there's not a whole lot of real unconditional love. And most of it is just people being nice to one other, people having good emotional connections with another. And there's literally no reason to say that it's bad. There's literally no reason other than to just sound sanctimonious and be pretentious. And make yourself sound like you're on your moille high ground. There's no reason. Well, that's what, that's what you're saying coming from your perspective, but that's, that's not a full picture. Like some people are emotionally manipulated by other people and it is their nicest that allows them to bend over to, to like do what they're told and it's not always a good thing. You gotta watch out for that. The majority of people are just nice to one another and they're not being manipulated or tricked due to their unbelievable stupidity of I would argue the door open for strangers. I would argue that almost everyone is being manipulated by someone in their life in a deep, in a deep way. That's what I would argue. You know, you know someone. I didn't hear the first part of that. Well, I'm just, yeah, I think most people are like everyone who's dating someone is to some degree being manipulated by that person. It's just how it works. It's just how it works. It doesn't mean it's negative or even a bad thing, but they are using their emotions and they're the expectation that like the other person should be nice to them. These are like control mechanisms we use over each other via society. And this is us. I'm not even saying it's insidious. I'm just saying that's just how people work. I mean, we're already seeing that this is sort of like Nate wants to talk about stuff. We've got to stop this. We've got to crush it right now. I would like to talk about how empathy is good and there's not enough of it on the internet. See, okay. I totally agree. It's good though. What was our conclusion? Did we like empathy? Did we not like it? I'm still on the fence, personally. That's right. Well, let me just say that I actually think empathy is great, but I think that's totally different from niceness. I think they are two distinct things. Niceness is vague enough that it includes lots of things and you are like, the sexual courting aspect of a nice guy. That is all you're thinking about. You're not thinking about anything else. What can I say, my dude? I always got pussy on the mind. We're sending you to jail now. The very first PC prisoner right now, right here. Yes, lock me up. I'm too dangerous for these ladies on the street. I am. I think we can do an entire episode on relationships, but just related to being nice real quick here. I am of the opinion that you can just be a normal person and like Nate said, I completely agree. Just live your life and eventually people will come to you that have similar interests and are of similar mindsets. That just makes sense. Be nice has nothing to do with that. Like, well, obviously if you are a nice person, you will attract other nice people, or people are trying to manipulate you. I'm not trying to say that that doesn't happen. I'm just saying that it's not, this whole courting via measuring, does girls, do all girls want this nice person or do all girls want someone who is vaguely injured? Do all girls want someone who's rich and powerful? Yeah, because it's just objectively better. I think if someone says that they don't want that, they're lying. You can probably draw some broad generalities in what certain demographics want. Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's very helpful for most people, especially people who are listening to this podcast or abnormal. No, no, no, no, no. The people who listen to this podcast are like teenage boys and they need to hear this shit. They need to know that just being a nice guy will not work. There are adults in the audience. I pray. And the boys in the audience, I don't think they should listen to us. I don't think that they should be listening to us. I don't think we're good influences. I disagree completely. I'm the best influence. Everyone should listen to me all the time. You know what? I just want to say that I basically, when I come out here, I am speaking to like young Nate. I'm trying to fix the mistakes that young Nate made in anybody who's listening, and I want them to be aware of the lessons I've learned. Well, Nate, if you didn't make those mistakes, you wouldn't have become Nate. But that's not necessarily a good thing. Like if I could be the same. I mean, I am a deeply broken individual and I'm totally aware of that. And if I could make someone have the same guerrilla mindset that I have now. Hang on, hang on. If you're a totally broken individual, how do we know what you're saying is a good advice? Because it is intellectually and logically sound. That is why. I don't know. If you don't think so, you might be saying something else. Yeah. Okay. It's a paradox idea. No, okay. No, no, it is not a paradox. Just literally take my arguments and analyze them for flaws. If you don't find any, then they're fine. If there are flaws, then they are not fine. Please do this to all my arguments all the time. And I will do it to everyone else's. I think most of the time when you present an argument before the court here, most of the time it's not exactly that there is like a plot hole. It's just that the point of view you're coming from and your conclusions, most of the time, I don't think are anything that should be allowed in society. No. Well, fuck you, you fucking state. It's your base assumptions, I think, that are a sticking point sometimes. Not the actual logical argument itself. Okay. I think the main difference that we're coming at here is when I think about being nice, I kind of focus in on the relationship aspects of niceness, whereas you guys are looking at it from a slightly broader context. We are looking at it from the coward's perspective. That's right. The blue-pilled cuck perspective. That's right. I think if we were being nice right now, we would be agreeing with you and be saying, well, yeah. Exactly. I don't want you to be nice. Obviously, niceness 24-7 is not a good idea, but any emotion or any state of mind 100% 24-7 is not a good idea. Overindulgence in anything is not a good idea. But for the basic majority of all human interaction, niceness is the way to go. Okay, but you know what? The one distinction I would make there is that I would put niceness below like being true to yourself always. It's like always a lower priority, but I'll give. Go on. I want to grill Nate and let's see some nice examples of when you can be nice and what you would do and why. You're walking through a door. This is a classic. The person behind you is sort of, you know there's someone behind you. Are you going to hold the door open or are you going to hope for that they push forward and do it themselves? What do you do? I'll tell you what I do. I analyze how far behind me the person is and determine if it is worth my time to hold the door open for them. But I'll tell you this. I almost always do a hold the door open if they're anywhere close. So you're being emotionally manipulated to an insane degree that people don't mind you. I am emotionally manipulating them by giving them a positive conditioning view of me by doing something nice for them, knowing that it could pay off in the future. I'm making an investment here. That's what I'm doing. I mean, I don't disagree that being nice to people that you want them to like you is like a thing that people do. The only thing is that I'm more blackpilled about why we do the things we do. I know that we're all just manipulating each other all the time, but you just call it being nice. I would say it's emotional manipulation. That's the only difference here. Yeah. I mean, I don't disagree. It's just I don't think about it as manipulation in like a day to day. I just think maybe I should like maybe I just, you know, I just like I'll do a good thing. I'll do a nice thing to this person. Maybe it'll be good for them. Maybe I'll make somebody laugh today. Maybe I'll maybe I'll increase like that the happiness of the world by like a certain amount. If we take the sort of vague definition of manipulation to just be like manipulation, the sense that like you change things to make certain outcomes appear, then literally like every single action that any human takes is manipulation. But I think there is a so that an obvious social, what's the word, definition of the word manipulation to be something where you are intentionally tricking someone to do something. Yes. I mean, that's how that's kind of how I think about it is I go about my life. But so you think so you think even in the situations where you could just say like manipulation, the sense that like, you know, I'm changing words that I, like I'm changing ideas in my mind to be words that people will like. This is like a form of tricking and not just manipulation since I'm changing. I mean, in a way, yes. Like the fact that you, Munchie, don't go out and like act as crazy as you do like the PCP stuff just when you're out in public. I would argue is like the same thing as me like choosing to hold open doors for people who are nearby because like you don't want the societal ramifications. The thing about it all is that words are terrible. I want to do a whole podcast about language because language sucks. It doesn't work. Nobody uses it right. But like the fact that Nate is taking the word manipulation and is applying it to all these things and saying, yes, this is manipulation. When in my mind and the minds of most people, manipulation is like by definition a negative thing that you do not want to be doing. Like if you say, I manipulate people, that gives like this connotation of like, oh, here's a bad person. He thinks he's he thinks he's literally evil and he likes it. Like that's the feeling the word manipulation gets, even if it technically doesn't mean that. It's just a language sucks and this is why I like to be, I like to be edgy. Okay, but listen, listen, I have prepared a statement of exactly how I am in real life. All right, here's my here's my statement. I'm on the PCP. My name is Nate Bestman. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself, eat a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, I record the procrastinator's podcast. And if I and if I have time, I record a bonus episode. I can do almost two now. After I remove, after I finish recording the podcast, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I do all this. I go to my work at I do a three by three, blah, blah, blah, who cares? Okay, here's the end. There is an idea of a best guy ever some kind of abstraction, but there is no real Nate, only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours. And maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable. I simply am not there. God, I fucking love that movie. That is the best. I watched it again like two days ago. American Psycho is the greatest movie. I literally idolized Patrick Babin. He is my hero in every aspect. I don't know. I don't agree because I feel manipulated by you right now. Well, that is an emotional response. And I would urge you to crush those feelings. I feel really manipulated by your speech there to laugh. I think you're literally are. You literally have been manipulated laughing right now. That's right. That's exactly right. I recognize that I'm being manipulated by everyone around me. That's how it is. Look, I'm sorry that I phrase things differently than most people, but that is how it is. That is how it is in real life. It is. Okay, okay. I understand. I can understand using the word manipulation. I can get behind just like, you know, it being a word of meaning change. But how is it deceit? How are you deceiving me? Right? Well, I guess the only way to argue that is deceit is to not do it because like it was just something that you wanted to do, but to do it specifically to achieve an intended outcome. I guess is the difference there. Let me look up the word deceit means because I even that's like not like there must be some some lying. Well, I don't even think there's a distinction because like, why is it morally better to do stuff just because you want to as opposed to achieve a certain outcome? There is no moral distinction there in my mind. I don't think so either. That's not okay. That's not what I'm saying. Oh, wait, deceit, the actual practice of deceiving some. Okay, this uses the word deceiving. Hold on. Well, that's a fucked up definition. Fucking continue talking while I find this. Well, you know what? I honestly don't care about any of this. I wanted to get my American psycho joke in and I did it. So we can I'm just saying that doing things because you want to in like and doing something that you want to that is not against laws or against social convention. I see no reason to frame it as a trick or like you are doing something wrong, like or like like deceiving people. Okay, yeah. Why would you implication is that it's like it's it's like abnormal and like not human is the thing humans would not do otherwise. I have a I have a I have a thought about this. What if you know that like, I don't know, tell let's say telling jokes, like let's say you know that like going out in public and telling jokes gets a good reaction and people like it. You are not naturally inclined to tell jokes, but you learn that like, oh, people really like it when I tell jokes. So I'm going to go out to a party. I'm going to tell jokes be the life of the party. Everyone really likes it. Is that is that deceitful for you to go out and do that? Like, because you know that it's what people want, even if it's not like you were quote unquote naturally inclined to do an excellent question, Ben. And it reminds me of the exact same thing can be applied to like, I mean, when people hear about like, for example, pick up artists, for just people who go out and really try to like meet women and like entertain them and completely consensually, like get them to sleep with them by being fun and entertaining. Yeah, people have a reaction to that like something bad is happening there. But literally what is the issue? And it's exactly what you just said, like the whole making people laugh to make people like you, it is the exact same thing. And I would argue that there is no, like, I don't know why anyone would even say that there's a problem with such a thing. I would argue that those people are better than the people who are naturally inclined. I think I think it would be a little stuff to do with niceness, though. I don't know. I think I mean, I mean, this person who's going out and telling jokes, I mean, are they are they tricking you? Like, is by acting a certain way that they have made themselves act because they know people like it. Is that a trick because it's not like because they didn't use to do that or because they didn't because they're only doing it to get a specific outcome? What is not a trick? Is there anything in the world that is not a trick? The reason we got onto this line of thinking is that we were trying to determine if being nice is a bad thing or not. And if all of this stuff that we're doing is like manipulating and deceiving, but it's also totally normal and everyone does it and is not bad, what are we talking about? Why is nice is bad? Nice is bad because it's what cucks do. That's why. That's why. Just don't get cucked. Look at this guy saying the cuck. Well, don't people like nice people? They like to use them. This is off topic. This is off topic, but going slightly back to pick up artists, I completely agree with you, Nate, that like the way you've described pick up artists is indeed like who could fault that. Just people being nice and consensually having sex with women or men, whatever. Like there's any such thing. But I feel like pick up artists have the same problem that I guess this is kind of not related, but like feminists have, where it's like the core idea of like I want women to be equal. Sure, who can agree with that? But in fact it's... Who can agree with that? Not me. Oh, fuck yeah. That's true. Don't take that out. Amplify that. But it's just like, sure, these ideals, if you wanted to find those groups of that, that's just a good thing. People want that. But in practice, a lot of people... That's not all people think about when they hear the term pick up artists or feminists. They think of all of the pick up artists or feminists that they've seen who are not nice people. Even pick up artists that I rather like. Like there's this one guy who calls himself Tyler Durden, or Tyler RSD after the guy from fucking Fight Club. Like even he... Well, you know what, honestly, it might not have actually been him. So take his name out of it. Maybe he's unrelated. But I have heard some pick up guys who promote the stuff or teach it, say that it's okay to lie about who you are. And I get the argument there because you're just like, ooh, it's all fun, like crazy night out, and you're just giving a fun experience to people. But that's always kind of rubbed me the wrong way, and I don't like that stuff. So again, all that stuff... Like you're absolutely right. Labels are bad. Fuck the labels. I'm just... I'm using it a shorthand, which is unfortunate because it will give these kind of connotations. I was having a conversation about this the other day. Again, it's all about labels. And when you say, you just want to go out and have sex, which is fine, a bad thing. That's fine. But there is obviously a pick up artist culture, and I don't know that culture by hand. I don't really know what's going on. I've seen movies where pick up artists are bad people. And I know Nate, who was a bad person. No, he's a nice person. So I don't really know what the fuck's going on. I'm just saying that I don't think it's unreasonable that people have a semi-bad interpretation of pick up artists just based on the fact of what I know about the culture, which is limited. I mean, there's good ones and bad ones, and your opinion of the whole thing is going to be like which you've had experience with. I don't even consider myself really related to the community. I was there and learned some stuff, and then moved on with my life because I hate labels anyway. But anyway, let's get the fuck out of here. Let's get back to why... Why niceness sucks. Tell me why niceness is good. What's there to like? There's nothing. People like it. Okay, here's an argument. If people think that you are nice, then they will like you more. And they will probably seek out your company more. Yes. And that's pretty cool. To a degree. To a degree, I agree. I mean, it's not universal. Some people think, ah, he's just nice. I want to fucking freak. You know, like some people fucking freak. Yeah. Some people like are like put up by niceness. That's kind of me. That's kind of me sometimes. Yeah, I feel that. But it can be kind of boring, but it is just nice. If you know that someone is cool, but in person, say there's like an internet person, and they're like wacky and edgy and cool and stuff. Well, here's one. But in person, they're nice to hang out with, and they're not abrasive and shouting at you all the time. I mean, I'm not really trying to show this. Obviously, it's more complicated this, but Joseph Anderson making all his millions of long ass videos about video games, they're all like just very similar like synopsises, and he goes over shit, and if he likes it or doesn't like it or whatever. But then you got Matthew Matosis, who, you know, they say that like, Joseph Anderson is like Matthew Matosis 2.0, but then you got Matthew Matosis. He's like bargain being Matthew Matosis. Well, that's what I'm saying, because he comes up with the Sonic Dreams collection video that's like, what the fuck is this? Jesus Christ. Yeah. And like, that's like the coolest video ever. That's got so much more personality. And it's like, you know who this guy is because he's playing this kind of game. I think about, I think about Joseph Anderson and Matthew Matosis all the time and how obsessed and how maybe yeah, it's weird. It's weird how much I think about it, like how I'll take a Joseph Anderson video and I'll be like, okay, well, this is slaked my lust for the time being. But like, it doesn't give me that deep soul satisfaction that Matthew Matosis does. You just need your fix. You just need your fix. I do. It's a really long video game analysis. They are good. I do. Where does where does Noah Caldwell lie on this? Noah Caldwell is like, God, it's like the angriest video game nerd fit of this. Noah Caldwell, he's like, I don't. Is he worse? Like, it's like, it's like if you want a version of Matthew Matosis or Joseph Anderson, who doesn't make any sense. Okay, no one will just, he'll just go off about like, I don't know. I actually listened to like his travel blogs the other day. I listened for like four hours, just him talking about like driving up the West Coast. I was like, yeah. Is Noah Caldwell-Gervais a nice guy? Is he a nice person? Absolutely. I mean, I can tell. He looks like he's on the Soylent diet. If you notice, no, I got no hatred for the guy. He seems fine. He's a big boy. He's a large man. He could crush me. I'm thinking of like in terms of at a party, if someone, you know, you're just talking to people and somebody is just sort of like, they're kind of boring, but they're polite. I think when you think of like the person who was not abrasive, but was also boring, you think of them as the nice person and you forget about them. But if somebody is like, they're really interesting and they're also polite, you think, oh, that guy's a great guy. It's just a different word people use. They say great instead of nice, even though the level of politeness, the level of like, what do you call it, manners or something. Like, there's the same amount of stuff. It's really just like added on to what sort of person they are and how cool they are. If they're, you know, a polite person who is cool, they're great. And if they're a polite person who is not cool, they're nice. I have an anecdote that I would like to say from my real life where, okay, okay, as I'm sure even the audience knows, I hang around mostly freaks and geeks and assholes. I'm in the PCP. I hang around mostly who are sardonic or sarcastic and who are, you know, vaguely edgy and it's great. That's the kind of people who I want to be around. I like biting comedy. I like biting people. I like to consume flash. I am a vampire. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right, right. Feed me chocolate. Yummy. But there's this one person who I know in real life who is the exact opposite of this. He's just a nice wholesome kid. And I don't think he's my best friend. I don't think, like, we're just sort of a good friends and I'll go to him sometimes and he'll be talking about how he likes like, you know, the newest Marvel movie and, you know, all that kind of shit. Also, I'll be non-long like, yeah, sure, it's just a lot of saccharine stuff, but it's nice. He's a nice person and I need that refreshness in my life so I can better, you know, accustom, what's the word, better appreciate the biting sarcasm and irony and insincerity of my time here on the Internet. So it's nice to have people in your life who are just genuine people that you can just rely on to, you know, bring some life back in your life. Are you talking about your Mewtwo? Yes, I'm talking about my Mewtwo. Thank you, hippo. My Mewtwo from Pokemon Go. Thank you. I would like, like, I know that we in the PCP are like edgy and stuff, but I feel like we are nice in the sense that we know each other well enough that we will not cross lines. We will be like sarcastic, but all of us can take that level of sarcasm and we all know how much everyone can take. So we know each other. We will be joking around, like, insulting each other and it's not like fake completely, but it's like at a level that all of us can understand that it's not really like a spiteful sort of like actual attack. I still feel of that as being nice, because it's just being friendly and chummy and it's like technically you put that in the same words in a different context. It would be horrible, but because we're okay with it, it's nice and it's normal. We talked about this a little bit in the Friendship episode, the one that we did at Radcon. And I think this comes up sometimes. And again, I do think we have a slightly different perspective on it even within our group, whereas I don't really see... I think there's two things going on. When you're in a Friendship, you want to be generally pleasant, because you don't want to be overly rough on your friends and make them make their experience of hanging out with you just generally negative. Obviously, you don't want to do that. But at the same time, you don't want to like... I feel like the people in your life who can really challenge you that you will actually listen to and respect their opinions of, for me, it's mostly my friends. I expect my friends to be the ones to... Because the person you're dating, again, not to be rude or anything, it's just like when you're dating someone, they've got an incentive to not piss you off and make sure everything's going smooth and I don't really trust their opinion on anything. I don't know if they're inherent qualities. And you seem to be like they are just part of their relationship. I think they will exist inherently to various degrees. I do think they are basically inherent. Maybe some people can squash them and make them really, really tiny, but there's always going to be an incentive to just be nice to, for example, the person you're dating. But that's in any relationship, right? Yeah, it's with Friendships as well. We have an incentive to not ruin our Friendships, because then we wouldn't have any friends. You're not wrong. God knows I don't tell all the criticisms to you guys that I could. If we were super critical at each other all the time, we would all be Econ and it would be I guess I would just argue that with Friends, I find it's a little easier to be more roughly honest with them as opposed to the person you're dating. I don't think that's necessarily a reflection of all relationships. Well, obviously it's not going to be literally all. I'm talking about a general trend here. But okay, whatever. It doesn't matter. For me, personally. I just want to say I don't know Econ. I just hear things. I don't hate him. Shout out to Econ. Shout out to Econ. I still haven't got my hot sauce, which is fine. Who? Okay, moving on. Literally who. I don't know. I pretty much said all I wanted to say on this particular subject, I think. I think people get where I'm coming from. Like I come at this whole thing from the idea of like, I see like being nice as like a boring trait that is like, being nice is nice once you're already in a relationship and you already know people. But niceness doesn't grab attention. It doesn't make you stand out. It doesn't really help you achieve major steps forward in your life. But I don't think it hurts anything. It's not a large positive factor, but it is indeed a positive factor. You enjoy, well, not you, you, but like, you know, the general populace would probably enjoy someone who is nice to someone who is not nice in most cases. I mean, the real thing is like getting a balance between being nice and being real. If somebody is nice all the time to the point where you can't tell when they're actually being sincere about their niceness, then it's like, that is deceitful. Isn't that in you are not nice? Well, it's true. But like say somebody is like saying, oh, my videos suck. And then somebody goes up to them saying, no, they're not. But in reality, they actually, yeah, I mean, that's the interesting thing. You're setting a dichotomy between like honesty and niceness, which is kind of, I mean, I guess there's just like, raw realness. Like here's here's my one like black pill thing that I had in my in my brain is that. Oh, I almost forgot it. Oh, I did forget it. No, you went hollow. Is this podcast the Dark Souls of the BCP? It really is. I'll think of it. To record and I'm sure to listen to. Yeah, really. Oh, yeah, yeah, I got it. I got it. Being nice. Being nice sometimes is just cowardly because yeah, you you want you if somebody is upset and or like they are like potentially going to be upset if you get too real with them and you are not nice to them. Either by not saying anything or being nice to sort of like placate them is cowardly because all you're doing is preventing yourself from being upset that they are upset. That's right. Totally true. I'm not proposing that you have to be nice 100% of the time. I never have. And I even like there are a lot of cases where being nice is a completely terrible idea. Again, to like placate your friends, make them just feel that they are secure and bad things, you know, like if their videos suck, you should probably tell them. But I'm like there are different ways to go about that. I feel like this word nicest comes through. You can say, Hey, your views suck now. Law wins Rayman, too. As I've heard every day. Your friend is gosh, but great to deal with that, dude. Like, what, you know, I will be like, Hey, like, I know your videos are like this lately. Can we please get some more like magenta filters? I think they're really helping them. Yeah, agreed. You know what? I'm happy to concede, Munchie, that I come into this thing extremely biased just against the word nice. And I like growing like it's like it's my Damon. It is my Damon that I grew up with. And now I just despise it across the board. But really, the right way, my Damon, my Damon, you know, this is the same. What, like Amber spyglass? Yeah, that's right. My British Damon demon. That's what it is. No, Damon's really help you out. No, only, only the suck your bus. I just want to talk about my favorite works of young adult fiction guys. Well, see Jackson. Okay, shut up. What I was going to say was I am definitely wrong in that I am way too black and white. Take that clip right there. No, delete that from the podcast. I'm definitely way too personally biased. And the correct way to go is exactly what you guys have been saying with like your more nuanced interpretation of and like subjective and like case by case basis usage of being nice because it obviously makes sense a lot of the time. And I just kind of hate it just in a biased emotional way, which is wrong. I'm definitely give it the variety to give you some leeway here because it was really eye opening when we were talking about how like, like with the French of us who like like about love, where definitions for world words have to be very exact for you. Yeah. Which I don't think is really wrong. And a lot of words are really vague. And that is a problem. But I think that like, you can usually ascertain the general definition of most things. I utterly I can't wait to do the language episode because I utterly despise that fuzziness that exists inherently in the usage of these words. I hate it so much. I think it is probably the biggest problem of our of the modern age, but we'll talk about that later on that. I would like to do that. So that sounds nice. Well, sounds nice. Debunked niceness debunked removed from real life. Never more shall be seen. And if you want to be a nice guy, you can go pledge to our Patreon. Yeah, you don't need to be a nice guy. You can be a cold calculating maniacal fiend to get those bonus episodes where you hear all the real black pill chip that's too hot for TV. Right now we're tricking you into doing the best right. That's what money is. It's fucking money is like money is like money is lie money is lie. That's hashtag money is lie. Correct. It's also the objective good in this world. Manipulate. Manipulate. Manipulonate. Manipulonate. That's my name. You found it. Manipulonate. Where's the L? Okay, doesn't matter. It's fine. Figure it out. The hashtags. Are we done? Any closing statements here? We got a we got a good questions, right? Well, of course, I just mean done with our main. Ben, Ben, what's your closing statement here, Ben? I want to hear you. Oh, shit. Well, Amber Spyglass was definitely the best of the three. You're not wrong. Are you guys too old to remember Percy Jackson and Lightning Thief? Are you guys too old? Yes, I have read The Great Gatsby. Yes. Shout out to all the twinks in the audience who know shit about Percy Jackson. Excellent. Okay, done. Moving on, everybody. It's time to go to those beloved questions that we all love so much. That we all love. Hey, everybody. Patreon.com slash the procrastinators. Give us your money. Get into the patron lounge so you can give us questions that we will read. We can get the question from Twitter so we can get out of the way. We can wipe that shit off our shoe. We can move on to the delicacy. That is the questions bar. You know, here's a pretty good, you know what, I don't know if I've even read this one before. There's a bunch of questions about Radcon and stuff, just things like, will you do Radcon again, like Radcon 4? Will you do Radcon 2? Electric Boogaloo, the fourth one? These cowards. How dare they appreciate Radcon? Like, who do they think they are? They're trying to trick us into thinking that they like Radcon. What the fuck? Yeah. How dare they impede, impose their emotional likes and dislikes and let us know how they feel about the content that we have generated for them, so as to guide our production of future content. That is evil and that is core. I wonder why people think that this was the last one. Did anyone? I didn't see that. I didn't see that. Will there be another one? Why is that even a question? I mean, maybe just because it took so long for this one to happen to like over a year. That's true. We did spend, man, it was like a whole year. Because Radcon 1 happened and then like three or four months later, Radcon 2 happened. Yeah, it's weird to think about that now. Yeah, it's weird. I think it's really just because we wanted to do it immediately and we started it, like the first one did not have a Kickstarter, the second one did. Well, because like you can't like put two Kickstarter's really close to each other. It's because Digi and Jesse just were doing their Kickstarter and then that just got turned into Radcon 2. So it was like a big, like we didn't plan that one, it just kind of happened on its face. So yeah, but we are definitely gonna work to make these happen certainly more often than they do. I think the ideal, audience don't take this as fact, just the ideal thing that I think that we all would like to go for is like every six months or so, though that's probably unrealistic. I think that's a good middle ground. I'd sure like that if we could do that. And hey, maybe if Radcon HQ happens, I mean PCP HQ happens, I mean, that certainly changed things. Who knows how often we'd do it? I mean, I like it to be a special thing, you know, as opposed to it's Radcon every day, bro. Hey, but there's one other question I wanted to read on here. This will be the actual real question from the peeps on the Twitter. So at cult of the yellow one asks Nate, if you had a behelit, would you use that shit to sacrifice the other PCP members to transcend your humanity? Here's the real answer. It would be a morally bankrupt of me not to do it. I have to do it because your lives are objectively less valuable than the good I do. I don't blame you. I would do the exact same thing in a heartbeat. Well, thank you. The one problem is a thing from Berserk. Basically, a guy uses it destroys his friends and gains ultimate power. But see, that's the problem right there. The problem is that the behelit chooses the things that you care about most in life. And therefore, the PCP is going to be fine. You guys won't be hurt at all. Dab, dab, dab, fucking destroy. That's good for me. Wait, what? Are you saying that the behelit just wouldn't, oh wait, you don't even like it? I mean, that's what I'm saying. But Nate, this means that the behelit will stop Starfleet from ever happening. No! Well, I don't know how, I think the behelit would like make Starfleet happen but kill like, the problem is though, I'm so blackpilled, I don't care about nothing, man. I don't care about nothing. Who can even take? Only a true cynic can wield the behelit. It would just take your sunglasses. You could never wear sunglasses. You'd live forever, but you could never wear sunglasses again. That would be devastating. And Action Drawf would die. Action Drawf and Garin, Login, and Kamina would be erased from existence. Now, if I had the ballet TA, I would wish for all the chocolate in the world, I'd be so hungry, feed me yummy snacks. Excellent. I like this new character, Munchy. I'm so hungry I only need the yummiest of foods. Good. Well, let's go to the fucking patrons now. Let's go to the real shit now, that out of the way. Okay, what do we got? Read me, feed me chocolate questions from the patron lounge. From the patron lounge, Cicero, do you guys think competition, like proper noun, competition is a good or bad thing? Lay, does it help you improve faster? Is it hinder your improvement and creativity? Competition is always good. Competition is great. I would say it's always. Read Bakuman. Well, yeah, it's not always good. It's like very good. In the worst case scenario, competition that is like too steep can make you discourage, because you're like, well, I'm never going to be as good as these guys, you know. Uneven competition is usually bad, but like if you're in an even playing field, okay, it depends on what he means. Like, does it mean like literal trophies, like this is a professional sports competition, or does he just mean like rivalries between friends to see who can do something? I mean, it sounds like in the case of us, he means like, just for example, like the quote-unquote rivalry going on between members of the PTA. Because like, capitalism depends on it, and it's really good. You know what kind of competition would really improve my life, as if Patreon had some fucking competition. Damn right, what, same with YouTube? Okay, I was just thinking about this. Like, Michelle has YouTube red, and like how many millions of times has everyone said like, God, I wish I could like, close my phone and still have YouTube play, so I could like, save the battery life and stuff. Like, that function already exists, and it's only for YouTube red people. So like, you have to pay money for it. But so like, the reason competition is good, like we need a YouTube competitor, so that there's another app that does the exact same thing as YouTube. So that like, that other company can give away that service for free, so that YouTube is pressured to make it available to everyone. That is how we get better stuff, through competition forcing like the market to evolve, and like, you know, all these things get cheaper and more accessible, and they have to innovate and stuff. Already, YouTube, I mean, definitely that would help YouTube get better quicker. But I'm sure that they really want to try and find ways to make this, everything they do much cheaper to do, because I have how expensive it is to host video. So like, I don't think they're going to stop until they're actually making like, big money, and then they can just rest on their laurels. I mean, but if they had competition, I mean, obviously, it would be good. Definitely for the specific kind of like feature stuff, like everyone wants this YouTube red feature. And I really think the reason why it's not available to the public, that it's like gated behind stuff is because no one is offering that service at like a lower price or even for free. And like the reason that like smartphones are like now accessible is because like everybody started making smartphones and it has driven the price down. So now it's like affordable for the average person and stuff. Otherwise, you'd have like one, if only one company like owned like smartphone technology, like they could just, you know, price that should up crazy high, however they want it to, and everyone would want it. But it's because, you know, we've got the competition to one like fucking iPhones and the Android and stuff. You already kind of got that with iPhones. Like people just live one, like if they're an iPhone, they will never even think about getting an Android. True, true. They will pay all the money. Because like, yeah, I mean, it is a slightly different service. Like iPhones just like work automatically and they don't take the kind of, like they kind of lock shit down so you can't fuck it up, which decreases freedom for people who like want to mess with their phones and stuff. But I mean, whatever, you get the idea. But for competition, like among us as like creators, I think it's generally good because I mean, all the time I'm always thinking of like, I kind of in my mind always have like a milestone I'm trying to reach. And some of it is like people who had like, ooh, it should be nice to like pass that guy. Hey, I'm not just going to say, I think I just passed or I'm about to pass a DigiBrony after dark. That's like a milestone in my mind, you know, you know. So shout out to my boy, Digi. How many subscribers does Jeb Bush have? Because that's my goal is to always be under Jeb Bush. How many electoral college votes are there? That many. He got them all, baby. He got them all. My milestone right now is to get more than 10,000 views on a video that I post. You've done that though. You know, I have not thought about my YouTube in a while, but I am like creeping up to 10k. I could probably hit 10k without that much trouble if I like put my mind to it. Dude, and you're fucking lecture coming. I think, and with your fucking lecture coming, I think that's the lecture is going to blow that shit out of the water. Now Ben will be above me. But I have a couple of video things that I have kind of been meaning to do at some point. And like I could just do those like maybe after the lecture comes out and I could start getting more hits. I'll like put out some more of that. Whatever makes the green. I bet I'll hit 10k when the lecture comes out. Hell yeah. What are you at right now? Eight something. Yeah, okay. It's not unreasonable at all. It gets anywhere close to the views the other one got. It was subscribed to me. Uh, no. Am I subscribed to Munchie? I think I'm subscribed to. In fact, I know I am. I'm subscribed to all y'all. I have 2k. Please unsubscribe so I can go back to having no k. All right. Another question. There are a lot of good questions in the questions bar. Oh, like this one. Chirpsky is moving castle favorite anime. Favorite anime. Oh my god. Chirpsky? No, stop. It's got a bunch of reaction emojis with just the word shit. Reacting to that. Oh, there you go. You see? Stop. The people know. The people know. But most of them I do not have a good answer for. Like this. Mozoelephinekin. What is something you could never forgive someone for? Making asking that question in the patron lounge. That's a good question. That's a good question. No, this is a good question. A previous one. Oh, asking favorite anime. There's obvious things like killing my family. But I'm trying to think of the least that I would never forgive. I could forgive that. If it was just bad. I could never forgive someone for something like probably like Telling people what I've done. Like ruining my reputation or something. Yeah. Yeah, I'm okay. Yeah. Or showing someone my YouTube channel at all. Yeah. That's pretty high. That's pretty high. Just like me. That's a doing weed. I could never forgive you for doing weed. Anyone. Yeah, yeah. I'm not too far off from that, pal. I'm not too far off from that. Yeah. In real life. I believe you, man. If you do weed, my perception of you will always be colored. That is not a joke. Colored greed. And we know much of you into fond of the colors. So, you know, I'm trying to think. I mean, you know, like I'd be very deeply upset possibly forever. If someone like, like fucked with my relationship in some way, you know, like fucked my girl. Like that would definitely upset me in a massive way. You know, that'd be bad. That'd be real bad. And that's where my mind goes first. Because I'm a deeply insecure man about my sex life. And that's why I'm obsessed with it and have deep rooted fears related to it all the time. So yeah, you know, things relate to that. I understand. Yeah, I mean, I feel like it would be something like that. It's just I haven't had like one of those things happen to me yet. Like I've gotten mad at people and I've been like, oh, you know what? I'll never forgive you. But then I'm like, it doesn't actually matter that much. Yeah, I think that's really what it is, though. Like if I was dating someone and they really like cheated on me in like a deeply humiliating and fucked up way, that would definitely be one of the worst things. I think outside of like fucking like mutilating me, locking me in a sex dungeon and like torturing me for the rest of my life. Like that'd be pretty bad. Well, are you saying you don't want to be in a sex dungeon? Well, let's say a non-sex dungeon. I'm allowed no sex. Oh, yeah, okay. Now that's a nightmare. Yeah. It's like, like in a perfect... Prepare to be locked in a dungeon for the rest of your life and tortured. A sex dungeon? No. No! No, yeah, yeah. Great. I feel like in a perfect world, in a perfect world, I would be able to forgive really anything. Yeah. I wouldn't forgive you. Because I don't think it is good. A lot of the time when you have like rage in you about a person, all it does is like make your own life kind of annoying. That's true. Whenever you think about that person, you go, oh, you twitch and you're like, and you squeeze your hand like Arthur. Oh, I have a Buddhist... I would rather be able to just think about it. Yeah, just finishing. Fuck. Yeah, I'm with you, Gib. I have a Buddhist saying about that. It's like... Now everyone went to foreign language class, Ben. It's like, no, anger, like holding on to anger and hoping for revenge is like holding on to a hot coal, hoping that you will throw it at your enemy, you know? Yeah, that is good. Yeah, but it hurts you in the meantime. I've got another excellent quote. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Get out of here, Yoda, from the prequels. Correct. I don't like the prequels. They'll never forgive them. Yeah, that's something you could never forget. Well said. Here's something. If you watch Star Wars, do not try to be my friend. It will only lead to you being six feet under the fucking ground. I feel the same way. Star Wars is not something that I want to invite into my life. Agreed. Yeah. Agreed. Okay, hey, there's another question here that I want to read. This is a short one. I've been wanting to comment on this in some public way for a while now. Jalen Harris asks, who started the sunglasses meme, Nate or Digi? Now, I'd be happy to hear your guys' opinions on this, but we all know that a little man named kegstandard started a particular sunglasses meme long before any of this shit began. And since the start, since the start of Best Guy Ever, sunglasses have been a defining characteristic of the channel, and I think that was before Digi ever started doing sunglasses things. I wish Digi was here to comment. Nate, did you request that keg have the Shutter Shades or did I give him them? I don't remember. I think that might have been my, I think I might have gone and been like, hey, what if he had some Shutter Shades? I'm happy to give you credit for coming up with Shutter Shades. Yeah, some Flutter Shades. And things were never the same. I really think that I came up with those. I really think that I suggested those, because I was really into Kanye at the time. And I specifically said like Kanye Shades. Yeah, okay, I'm not sure. I could believe that maybe you suggested it. But in either case, whoever suggested it. Shutter Shades are very different than sunglasses, especially in their modern incarnation of the PCP. Okay, okay, even if that's true though, how far back does the Digi sunglasses meme go? Because Best Guy Ever, like the iconography of Best Guy Ever, is immediately defined by the sunglasses of the guy that was right out of the gate. And I would say that was significantly before Digi started his sunglasses thing. I give myself full credit. When did Digi start the sunglasses? I don't even know. You know what? Maybe Jesse, because he wore sunglasses in Tony videos. That's not a defining characteristic of Jesse. Okay. You know what I hate? You know what I hate? The fact that so many of you guys wear sunglasses is that it means that I can never wear them, because then I would be like, oh, you two. That's not true. You as well. We could just be a bunch of sunglasses dudes. Okay, but I will say that currently, I am the most consistent sunglasses guy. It's like my thing. It's like my thing now. I'm sure. It is Digi's thing too. He's always drawn off the sunglasses. Digi fucking stole it from me. But he's got circles. I'm inclined to... Don't you fucking say it. Don't you fucking say it. I think you did say it. I think you did do it first. But I think... Damn right. It come... Yeah, fuck it. Die. There you go. Question. And it's over. Okay, next question. What do we got? O2 Marasu Aibuyoko Okaio-Gizai Matsus What is the biggest missed opportunity at Redcon? Not recording the fucking Cluster Punk fashion runway. I spent $140 on that shit. You were talking about it before and the whole time and it just didn't happen. Is it a missed opportunity or is it like a fucked opportunity? Because we... What do you mean? We just had too much stuff booked. We would have done it if we had the time. Well, okay. It's not like we forgot about it. Real talk, if we had schedule... I mean, we got a ton done. We deserve like no criticism for the amount of stuff that was produced at Redcon. But if we had worked better, we could have produced more stuff. Well, it was on the fucking schedule. It was on the schedule. We didn't fucking stick to the schedule for shit. Yeah, we didn't. But we tried. Like, I made it in the hopes we'd stick to it, but we did not. We did not. And you know, like, I mean, I was there to make sure I got my shit done. And I did. You know, it was so... I mean, same. I got the stuff that I needed to get done. The Christian fucking fashion normally was supposed to be like a PCP thing, but I... It would have been cool. It would have been cool. You know what? You know what? Put a fucking feather in that one and save it because we could do it again someday. And you know what? TBH, like, because Digi didn't know about it, like, like, Digi would have been the only person that could have rivaled me. I mean, that is true. That is true. So, like, it was sort of a fledgling idea that needed a little bit more expanding and like... Oh, god. Being like, we're doing it now. Everyone's signed up. I gotta get Svelte. I gotta get Svelte for next Radcon so I can not look like a fucking fat piece of shit on the ClusterPunk fashion run. Oh, Jackie just got me. Okay, Nate, you know about... You know my pink chucks? Yeah. Yeah, they're like fucking faded as shit and falling apart. Jackie got me some new ones. They are Neon. They are Vibrant Deglo pink chucks and they are coming on the fashion runway. I want this... I want everyone to, like, for Radcon 4, I want to bring their fucking A game and bring the most fucking A game. Well, see, I didn't even know I had to prepare anything. I guess I just didn't consider myself part of it. Well, I mean, you don't have to be, but... Yeah, I know, I know. The only problem with me is that a suitcase space... Like, I only just managed to get everything that I brought to Radcon. Well, you could bring a second suitcase and check it. You could budget for it. But, like, full of stuff, one outfit? It's, I don't know. Well, would one outfit really take up that much space in your suitcase? I mean, I don't know. I feel like these are solvable issues. But we can worry about that later. It's all far out. I have one. This was one for their history books. I am sad. The one... The only thing I am personally really sad didn't get made at Radcon was I really wanted to do Otaku workouts with Digi. I really wanted to do another workout video, which we did not end up doing. I didn't know that was on the docket. Like, Digi came up to me as like, Nate, I wanted to blah, blah, blah, all this stuff that I don't care about. But then he was like, but Otaku workouts. So I'm like, yeah, that sounds fun. But we just didn't have time to do that. Not two other ones I had. Well, continue. Not a missed opportunity per se, but kind of is that I do regret not being on Art Apologies, which I'm greatly looking forward to listening to. I wanted to be on that after I saw the behind-the-scenes footage of Digi. And also that behind-the-scenes clip of him filming you and Tom drawing your respective comics just silently was really cool. Oh, by the way. I wanted to be there. I should have been there. Here's a little message to all the backers we have already amassed a ton, like a huge amount of backer content. It's unreal. It's fucking unbelievable, to be honest. We're talking like 20 videos already exist and one of them is like 45 minutes. I feel a lot of stuff. Gib and Digi killed it with the amount of shit they made. I won't go into it. I won't go into it, but we're not going to release it until more content is out because it's got spoilers. So we're going to wait. I swear to God, like 75% of the entire time at Radcon, like not having sleeping was recorded, like there was a camera on somewhere in the house. Thanks to Gib, thanks to Gib and Digi for like fucking filming a bunch of shit. Yeah, there are two other ones. One mean Digi were writing a skit for Project Awesomeness that was great and we just didn't have time to record it properly and you could iron out more. And also this is not really a missed opportunity because it didn't, in fact, happen, but I'm kind of anxious of the result. Ben, the Red Ritz Cup Killers MeMaker was great, but the actual like WeSports Resort was really bad. Yeah, um... Uh-oh. By the way, I haven't produced for that. I mean, it's okay. Overall, I liked it. Like, I'm not, I don't... Well, the game was bad, but I don't think the recording was bad. I think the record... I have an idea of how I want to fix it, which will really fit in with Red Ritz Cup Killers, but I'll put it to you after the end of the show. So, you know... Okay, okay. Word fucked up. Oh, should we make like a statement on whether the stuff will be available to people at some point? We don't have a plan for it, but we plan on making it available some way to people afterwards. So, we will get back to you. If you didn't back, Radcon, do not panic, even though you should feel ashamed of yourself. But there probably will be a way to get it, so don't freak out. It'll be jacked the fuck up, though, and it'll be twisted. You will regret your decisions. Sit directly to your fucking sphincter, directly. Indeed. Indeed. Giffy says, what future technology you must excite for? Automatic cars? Bro, self-driving cars? Auto, self-erotic, asphyxiation machines? Yeah, yeah. Looking forward to that in a big way. Um, self, self-fucking sex dolls. That's what I just... So, basically, we said... What is wrong with all of you? What is fucking wrong with all the fucking freaks right now? You know, having a sex doll is great, but it's just such a time commitment. But now you have a doll that will fuck itself, so you don't have to. Gib, yes. I want aeroplanes to become, like, incredibly fuel-efficient so that they're super cheap and I can fly all over the world. Yeah, yeah. And that's fairly likely to happen. Yeah, that's my new answer. Okay, I didn't really care about living abroad at all, until, like, I just thought about it for a second about how being in the EU, I could just, like, live in, like, London or something? Well, maybe not anymore. But I could, like, live in, what's the, like, Paris or something. And I could just, like... Yeah. Walk, well, not walk, but I could just, like, go to Germany or I could just, like, go to Spain. And it's not very nice. I would like to do that. I want... I want there to be, maybe not a Radcon, but just specifically a Gib and Munchie hangout. I want to go to Europe someday. That will happen. Yeah. I guarantee it. We could Pokemon Go all over the world. Yeah. Hey, man, Radcon for London. I'm just saying, it'd be pretty good. Yes, it would be pretty good and also very expensive. Radcon 5 Japan. And Radcon 5 Japan. I love this idea of doing the next one in London and the fifth one in Japan, in Tokyo. That would be amazing. The Radcon Japan is the worst fucking idea I've ever had. No, you don't know that. You don't know shit. How fucking sick would it be? I don't think Radcon Japan would work as a Radcon. I think it would work as a... You guys, let's all go to Japan and be enemies. It would be so hard. Don't speak Japanese. But that exactly... I have lived in Japan for months and it is a place that is designed that you don't need to know Japanese to survive there. I have been there. I know the place. Most big cities, you can ask for help and people will speak to you. Really, it's no different. The reason it's kind of a weird idea is because Radcon is about making content together rather than hanging out in a city. Well, not every Radcon has to be exactly the same. As long as we pitch it with the honest... You know, this is what it's going to be. We would probably call London and Japan different things than Radcon then. No. Because Radcon implies we're getting together to make a bunch of content and you'll see it soon. Your face applies. But something like that would be we go to an expensive city and live in a hotel and then we have a fun time. Literally just get an Airbnb. Who cares? It's fine. Why can't it be both? Well, I don't see why it can't be both. Well, the reason it can't be both is really just there's no point going to such a place if we're going to stay in one place and record and not actually go out. Literally go out and do stuff for a day or two out of the 10 days or whatever. How expensive is it to live like just in Japan? I mean, I did it and it is fair. Do they have Airbnbs in Japan? I don't know, but we could look into it. All right, there's no need to like fucking break the fucking thing down. I'm just saying it would be cool. Radcon 5 right now. Do you agree? It would be cool. Do you agree? All right. Yes, it would. Thank you. Very nice to go. Thank you. Catch a Farfetched. There you go. There you go. Yeah, there are my Radcon 5. Radcon 5, the quest for Farfetched. That's what it is. That's the one. All of us Pokemon go. We all have to get them and we have to really, we have to transfer them. A Radcon exclusively, for Pokemon Go, let's play Konfit. Exclusively, no other content available. Oh my God. All right, two more questions and then let's get the fuck out of here. Yes, good. Chip in the Franks, a similar question. What's a mundane everyday miracle that you noticed and recognized? This is a really interesting one. What? Yeah, yeah, magnets. An everyday miracle. What's an everyday miracle that you like? I mean, just being alive, period. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like. Okay. What do you say is a miracle? Yeah. Is that just like for us to interpret in any way we want? I think so, yeah. Okay, just I just, I get hung up on the word miracle only because like, if people say that like life is a miracle, well like, no, I mean, we can exactly trace back why life exists. Well, so what do we mean? Think about like Dr. Manhattan talking about how like, you know, like a spectacularly unlikely event is a miracle and like, by that definition, being alive is definitely one. I mean, to me, sort of. When I think, when I think miracle, I think like, not necessarily something that doesn't happen, but something that I don't see a lot and it's just like really like, ah, yeah. Okay. Well, okay. Because he says. And for me, that would be, that would be like a sunrise. It's like Jesus, because I don't see them a lot. Jesus walked on water, but in Kirby, I can just run across water. So like, there's an everyday miracle. Like, I was just playing Kirby, so there it is. Oh, okay, okay. Because he says to everyday miracle, I think he's using the definition of miracle, which is not really a miracle. Like the ICP version of miracle. Like the magnets, you know. Like something that you really like when it happens. Just like, oh, thank God, the electricity works. What a fucking miracle. Yeah. What a world we live in. I think video games are an amazing everyday miracle that I absolutely love and I'm so thankful. And the internet, I guess, but I'm going to go with video games. I'm going to go with video games. That's perfect. Because that's like, thank God we evolved in the way that like, that allows us humans to create video games. Like, what a miracle. Oh, well, I have like a, well, I was going to say when somebody that I know never followed me before just leaves a nice comment and says, I'm subscribing. That's a nice thing. That doesn't happen very often, but when it does, it's like, yeah, I can do it. I can do it because of this. Ben, do you have an everyday miracle? When someone goes to patreon.com I already said being alive. Yeah, yeah. Being dead. Being dead. Yeah. The two sides of the same coin. The Oculus Rift. The Oculus Rift. The ability of the fact that I can enter cyberspace at any time. Yeah, that's good. That's not a bad one. The fact that you were able to such a successful Kickstarter. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. No, wait, wait. I haven't got the opportunity. No. Okay. Let me get like the fact that the PCP exists and is real and I'm a part of it. Oh, well, yeah. Yeah. And then it makes things possible like the fact that I could do this Kickstarter, which by the way, the books, the Vapors books just arrived this morning. Oh, I can twerk. That's exciting. That's exciting. And you know, and the Oculus Rift is the stretch goal and that I actually hit the stretch goal and you know that Radcon can happen and, you know, we get to do all this cool stuff. The fact that we got the T-Bap stretch goal clicking Radcon 3 is an everyday miracle, not even every day. That's like a shock. It's like a fucking blue moon. All right, Ben, that was a perfect segue into my segue. Will my everyday miracle is? Segways. Yeah, here's a new question for you. Mick Coolman, do you guys have a childhood dream that you've successfully fulfilled being in the PCP? That was my childhood dream. Well, being in the horseshoe crew, really, but... Oh, fucking great. Well, that's great. You're still in your childhood, so you're fulfilling that dream right now. Exactly. Excuse me, yummies. I'm such a little baby boy. Don't you want me to be big and strong? I need my yummy chocolate. I don't want you getting any bigger or stronger. You scare me. Yeah, that would be a danger to us all. I guess a childhood dream... If I get any bigger or any stronger, I'll be a serious threat to not open all of you, but the end of all. It'll be like in the animatrix when that guy literally became more physically strong and fast at running that was able to be handled by the matrix and he shattered out of it. That's what Munchie will be like. What the fuck? That sounds like my life. That's literally it. With your resting heartbeat clipping the microphone of real life every moment. Pretty good. This was a good one. This was fine. This was nice. It was good. Oh, by the way, I just want to say another missed opportunity at Radcon 3 doing the Oculus Rift, a tragically missed one. Yeah, I brought it and I brought my graphics card and it didn't seem like mining at night with it. It didn't seem like it was going to work out mining at night too much. No. Tom said that it might have worked on his laptop but we kind of ran out of time and didn't get to like give it a shot. So that was a shame. Oh, well, next time. Next time. Oh, oh, oh, actually in Everyday Miracles that my computer didn't fucking like a break at Radcon because it was it was really fucking tight. I mean, well, I'm jealous because my computer did break at Radcon and now I'm like, like my laptop keyboard doesn't work. So it's all, it's a fucking brick now. Shout outs to my laptop who did basically everything. Your laptop killed it, dude. He's a strong boy. I gave him a pat on the back. He's a good. All right. Guys, this is there's a there's a fucking crowbat outside my door like just a poke stuff away. I have to oh my god. He's got to go. We got to wrap this one up right here, everybody. All right. Thanks for joining us, everybody. Yo, listen, everybody. The patreon.com slash the procrastinators go there. Give us $5 for bonus episodes. Another one should be out now by the time you're hearing this. Don't know what it is yet. It'll be out. There's like a million already back. There's like 12 or something already. They're all great. 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