 Okay, Mikey. Okay. It's nice to have Erica back. There she is, back from Arkansas. And you'll be here how long? Forever. You're back here to stay? Sure, yeah. Oh, I did not. Okay, well, say goodbye to Arkansas. That's a good place to say goodbye to. No offense. I know all about it. I'm from Kansas. I left there years ago. If you're going to consider going into this kind of a ministry, you've got to develop a thick skin. Okay, you can't let anything anybody says to you or about you, bother you. And I had a family come in for prayer the other day, and it was the husband and wife, and the son was the wife's son, not the father's son. That was a stepson. And they came in. They wanted him to get healed with schizophrenia. Okay, so I was explaining to the couple to shorten this. You guys came in here with this level of faith here, but now that we're talking about schizophrenia demons, your faith's going to have to go from here to there, because there isn't any way to get this demon out at your faith level. Well, the wife heard me say, I said they don't have any faith. She got steamed, jumped up, ran out of my office. Yeah, I didn't think anything of it, because I've had people running out of my office for years. Sometimes there's a track meek in there. She then goes on social media and posts this, and here it is. Be warned, my fellow believers of Almighty Lord, this place, this place here, where you are now, by the way, you're all partly guilty. Yeah, yeah, your accessories to the crime, all of this. You're right here. This place tries to come to you as an angel of light when they're clearly working for the enemy. I brought my husband there in desperate need, not knowing or realizing I was actually putting him and us in danger. Micah Kelly, and I can't remember what that long-haired Caucasian woman's name was. She left. She was sitting right over there, and she bolted. She's gone. Yeah, and she didn't know that that's actually her name, white Caucasian woman. It was complete. There she is. There's a white Caucasian woman in the corner by the ladder. It's the one by the ladder. That's her. That's her name, first name, Caucasian, last name, woman. They try manipulating you into believing they're helpers of God, but it's very clear to me, early on as God gave me discernment to run. She did. She both sat up and bolted out of my office. Carl Lewis. As they would try to act genuine, I do that a lot, and I fool a lot of people. I really couldn't care less about you, but I put on a denero, kicks in. I'm there. I got it. I feel the darkness within all of them. I wore this shirt in honor of her, today's black shirt day, and it's also white Caucasian day. There she is. She's got glasses on. You can't trust her. I don't trust her. Kelly told me not to. Run, it says, in capital letters. See that run? Exclamation point. Yes, that's right. As they would try to act genuine, I felt darkness within all of those, especially Brother Mike. That's me. She forgot my first name, Caucasian Brother Mike. He seemed to be the devil himself. Whoa, somebody caught me. Please, if you're desperate as we were, believe in the Almighty Lord that he himself, please believe, if you're desperate, believe in the, believe that he himself and only through him can anything and all be healed and delivered. That was the part I agreed with, 100%. I read all that to get a, it's a giggle, but to me it was nothing. But this is what you're going to have to get used to and see as a common thing in this kind of a ministry. This is in a glamour ministry at the church or something on TV or something like that. As soon as you mentioned demons, people instantly turn off. Okay, and then everything, and then it goes bad after that. So there's no glamour in any of this at all. This is strictly helping people ministry. There's nothing great about it. You don't get anything out of it. It's all hard work and there's no, I can't think of any benefits. The only benefit I know of is seeing the Holy Ghost heal somebody. If that's something that you're interested in, this would be a good ministry to get into. If you're looking for pats on the back, fanny pats, compliments, things like that, you're not going to get them. It's just not going to happen. We've had thousands of people come through here, the House of Healing and everything, got massive deliverances, huge healings. Never heard from them again. Never got to thank you, nothing. Didn't send us diddly squat. So if you're used to that and you're okay with it, none of this bothers you. This kind of thing on social media does not even faze you because you're already preconditioned to understand. That's not what you're looking for. You're not looking for pats on the back. That's not why you're here. You want to help somebody. You want to see God help them. That's all that matters and none of the other stuff matters. Nothing. No money, no fame, no fortune. There's no fame and fortune in this kind of a ministry. It's just completely garbage is what it is. It's a garbage end of the ministry. This is the ministry where you're taking out the trash. You're working in the dumpster. You work in the junkyard. Nobody has any respect for you. No one really likes you. This is how it is. This is what it is. And so none of that stuff ever bothered me. I couldn't care less. So I was fine with it. But we have some people come in here and they have trouble with the grind. And then that's on top of staff problems. And the devil is constantly attacking my staff trying to turn them into schizoids, psychos, zombies, clinically depressed. I mean everything hits the staff. Weird stuff happens. Something stupid happens and it causes people to get a fussy with each other. It's just everything hits here. Everything hits here. Crap hits me all the time. At home, family, everything from A to Crap, Z. And if you're not focused and you don't know what you really want, you're not going to make it. You're going to sink. Anybody here last night? Okay. If you saw that altar call last night, your mouth hit the floor. There was one sick person after the other standing there that 90 percent of the churches in town wouldn't even take a look at. And we were welcoming them in with open arms. But we are going to get sicker and sicker here. We're going to get more and more sick people here. And because the churches are sending them over to me, they don't know what to do with them. They can't do anything with them. The people are out of their minds and out of control. So they have a, some of them have my cart in their desk, hidden in their desk. And they got a psycho parishioner sitting there, whacked out of their minds, wanting to go into all kinds of weird ministries, wanting to get bats born again, stuff like that. And they go, Oh, hold on a minute. Now you got a pen? You don't have one. Here's a pen. Got a paper? You don't have one? There's one. Write this number down. White Caucasian brother might call this phone number and go get help. I've had it happen dozens of times over there. The pastors hand out my number to get rid of that person in their congregation because they have no idea what to do with them. And it's going to get worse as we get over there. So if God lays it on your heart to form a small group to come in once a week, once every other week or something, and just pray for the ministry, I'd like to see two or three or four people in a group. If God lays it on, I'm not telling you to do it. I'm saying if, if that happens, just come in here in the main sanctuary whenever you want to do it once a month, whatever it is. I need a small group of people to pray for the ministry because the number of sick people is starting to go up. God's holding it back because we're not ready to take a giant landslide. We'd be over overrun. So if you have that thought in your heart to lead that prayer meeting, just come in, spend 30 minutes praying for the ministry and the anointing, because that's what we need. Where last night was a red flag to me. We're getting more than white Caucasian women here. We're getting, we're getting, we're getting people that are sick. And they were all over the place at the altar last night, several of them. And there's really tough cases, tough cases. But we had some wonderful deliverances. So the Holy Ghost, I see tough cases. He's never had one. Amen. Praise God. Never had one. Now on continuing on, this poor guy here, Steve Benion, used to be in our ministry here. If, if you talk to this guy or anything like that, just pray and ask God to help him and forgive him. Okay. He's, he's still attacking us. He's, he hates us now. He sends out a CD. I told you that little cast out tape, a Michael W. Smith cast out. So if you've come here, I gave you demons and he sends you a cast out tape to cast me out of them. That's how bad this thing got. And so just go ahead, pray for the guy, forgive him. You know, we, he's been, he was around here for years. We, I helped him so many times over the years, ridiculous. Now he hates my guts. And boy, that's another thing I forgot to tell you earlier. You wouldn't believe how many people who just think you're the greatest thing in the world temporarily and then they turn on you. It happens all the times. Happened to me dozens and dozens of the times over the years. Staff numbers, people that visit here, routine. Okay. So when they turn on you, if that bothers you, you're not going to survive in this ministry. Somebody turns on you. It's like, oh, it's Tuesday. That's all it is. You don't feel anything. Nothing. It doesn't bother me the least. But it's going to happen. And there's no way to stop it. I've never been able to stop it. You can't make everybody happy in life, in any field, much less this one. And so you have to adjust. You got to improvise. You got to adapt, like a Navy SEAL. That's what they do. They do those three things. You got to be a spiritual Navy SEAL around here. Improvising, adapting, adjusting. That's a good Bible study. Go ahead and steal that. Okay. So poor Steve. Oh, man. Awful. Already went over that. Okay. Now, we're starting to get a lot of Kundalini Christian witchcraft stuff coming in. Okay. It spread all over the country. What happened was, years ago, I think it was 92 or 3, a big revival broke out at a church in an airport in Toronto, Canada. Huge, huge revival. And the people running the revival were the best people you ever met in your life. Absolutely great people. One of the guys was Randy Clark. You ever met him? Nice, this guy you've ever run into. Humble, beautiful man. The Arno family was pastor in that church. Okay. We're eight short. We're eight short. Oh, shoot. Lori, can you, Lori's going to get the, okay, I'm sorry about that. I'll hold off on that thing. And this revival broke out and it was amazing. All kinds of stuff was happening. Well, before these revivals break out, all revivals, before it happens in the natural world, it's already picked up in the sparrow world. The demons know something's going to happen. They just don't know exactly the moment, boom, the spirit moves, but they get the waves, like waves at the shore, you know, they're getting bigger. There's kind of a storm out there. So they have an idea, something's going to happen. And that's what happened. So God started moving and then, boom, an avalanche of demons from God only knows where converged on this church. And it was a battle royale. And the demons that hit them were not the regular demons we run into here. Fear demons, lust demons, murder, this stuff. It was, it was familiar spirits who are counterfeiters and they flooded the revival with counterfeiting spiritual behaviors. So in the whole revival went on for months, some guy there would be howling like a dog. This guy would have gotten filled with the spirit speaking in tongues. This one, this one's rolling around the floor. This one's screaming. This one's praising God. I mean, it was a total mixed bag. This went on for months. Demons manifesting, Holy Spirit manifesting. Mixed bag, mixed bag, mixed. This part was great. That part was hideous. The people running the revival, Clark and the R knows, didn't have any discernment. They didn't know how to figure out that that was a demon manifesting. That one's barking. Wow. Time out. Take that person back in the room and get those spirits out. They didn't know what to do. Okay. So our nose idea was if we confront this thing, we're going to have this thing blow up on us. So let's just take a positive view of it and just go with the flow. So this mix, mixture of familiar spirits and the Holy Spirit manifestations spread all over the country. People were leaving the revival, starting a revival at their house, their home, their church, their city, their state. It went all over the country. Okay. And then two people came down from Canada that were huge, Todd Bentley and Patricia King. These people were the same thing. Highly anointed, mixed. Wonderful people, deceived. Doing a great job lacking discernment. Mixed bag. Okay. Now, as I mentioned a thousand times, the Holy Spirit lives here, not here. And the Kundalini spirits, the religious demons, the familiar spirits, they don't get in there. They get in here. And the goal of both of them, the Holy Spirit and a familiar spirit, is to feed your conscious mind and eventually train your subconscious mind. So as you renew your mind in Christ, you take in the information in your conscious mind and eventually over time, as you assimilate it, your subconscious mind absorbs it. So you become a new creation in Christ. You become a different person. I am a completely different person than I used to be. Okay. So when I was living in sin, if I saw a hot babe, I'd check out their breasts, their booties, everything. And then after my mind was renewed, now I subconsciously see women as human beings needing whatever they need, not as sexual object or something to masturbate over. So my mind was totally renewed through the Holy Ghost and God's Word. And I became a different person in numerous areas. That's just one of them. I used to have all kinds of greed, covetousness. Planaxia is a Greek word. It means to have a lust or a passion for money or material things. I had that bad. I spent decades chasing the Almighty but I renewed my subconscious mind, eventually changed. Now I have zero interest in money. I don't even take a salary here. I'm voluntary. I work here for free. That's the goal of every born again Christian, to become a new creation in Christ. Not exactly like me or you or you, everybody's different, but the process is the same. The Word of God comes in here. The anointing allows you to change your subconscious mind so you become a different person. And if you don't, you become a what? You stay in church and you become a carnal lukewarm Christian, which is not what God wants you to be. He wants you to be a channel or a minister of the Spirit to help others, not rake in dough and be a copeland thing. That stuff's all satanic. You're to be a servant of God helping people out of love, not out of something you're going to get out of something. I didn't get any amens on that. So I think there's a lot of backsliders here today. And I sense there's a lot of Caucasians here. That's not good. So that's how the process works. It's exactly the same way with familiar spirits. They want you to see this guy barking. Oh, that's the Lord. It's just God blessing someone differently. Oh, okay, got it. And so now you can go to your church and convert other people into this familiar spirit system. And the familiar spirits use all the scriptures. They have all memorized the whole book. Thou shalt not judge. So he's barking. Oh, you're judging. Oh, now we got you beat. That's how they beat you. Okay. So Phoenix became the hotbed of this in the West. And then another revival broke out in Florida called the Lakeland Revival. And Todd Bentley rose to the top of the prophetic movement. And he was running this revival in Florida. And it was big, really big. People were flying in there from all over the world to build this revival. Behind the scenes, God was going to reach out to these people and help them. And he allowed something to happen. He allowed something to be exposed. Normally he doesn't expose stuff because it hurts too many people and some people get discouraged and beaten down too bad. So thank God he doesn't expose everything. But once in a while, he has to expose something. And so God was watching this happen. And the familiar spirits made Todd Bentley the pinnacle of the pyramid, the number one apostle of the whole movement nationwide, the number one guy. All of the major ministers around the country flew to Florida for a apostleship crowning, anointing service. Okay. They were all there. But George the King wasn't there. There was a couple, a couple missed it, but basically 90% of, I mean all the big guns were there. All of them. They went through a ceremony. He was crowned the prophetic king, the whole deal. Wagner was there. Bill Johnson was there. All of them were there. A couple missing. But basically 90%. He's the top guy, the top apostle running the whole movement. Anointed by God, called by God. People would get up and give speeches. Then they'd give another speech. Then they'd give another one. Six of me speeches about Todd Bentley being called by God, divinely set as the apostle of the movement. God himself put him up there at the top. God anointed him. God told him to take it over. We acknowledge that. We, our discernment, is telling us he is the man. That's the guy. Everybody said that's the big guy. Unanimous vote. And God said, Hey, I love you. I got to show this to you. Boom. Two weeks later, God runs off with his girlfriend, leaves his wife and three kids in the middle of the revival. What was that all about? Well, the minor issue was lust and adultery. That's the normal stuff in church. The big issue was God was telling you, children, listen to me. You're missing something. What are you missing? Here's what he's missing. People can have powerful Holy Ghost anointings and still be infected with familiar spirits. And so the familiar spirits mimic what he does. They mimic stuff. So then you had all this satanic stuff sweep through. There for a while, oh, there's a gem. Look, there's a gem. There's a mineral. No, I think that's a mouse turd. No, no, it's a gem. It's a gem. Oh, there's some. Look at that gold dust as my anointing is off the hook. And I'm Caucasian. Okay. This insanity swept the movement. It was so bad. Nobody would listen. No one. And they had everything. They had everything going. All of it, oil, everything, feathers. Look at that. They all became farmers. And they were all white feathers. I didn't know that all chickens were Caucasians. I didn't know that. My goodness. Well, after that, the Todd Bentley thing clunked for obvious reasons. And then the new Mecca then switched from Phoenix to California. And Bill Johnson then, Bob Jones died. And Bill Johnson then replaced those two. Yeah. Was Bentley the guy with the dream center? At the dream center? No. No, no, no, no. Tommy Barnett solid as rock. No, he's, no. No, no, no. Tommy Barnett's great. This is a totally different fish here. Bentley's gone. Yeah. The gold dust, the feathers and the oil, were they just dropping that from the ceiling out of their church? Or was this the? No, supernatural demonic manifestation. Yeah. No. They weren't dropping it. Some of them were dropping other hair. I saw one minister drop it out of their hair. Okay. Wow. Yeah. There's a diamond on there. Yeah. I've been having a problem with the scripture where it talks about the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit. A lot of really prominent ministers will say that that is a, you're giving the, you're saying that these are, this is a real miracle. That's not a real miracle. And then that will be a blaspheming Holy Spirit. I know that's why I'm having a hard time with that because Jesus does say it right after the fact that they said he was doing it by the God. Yeah. So it was right after that. But I mean, if there's, if you're talking this mixed bag, all these, so you're saying a few, if you're off on one of these, not what was this and that, and then blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Yeah. That's what I mean. That's. No, you're not. You got to understand the definition of blasphemy. It's a Greek word, blasphemia. It means to deliberately and knowingly verbally denigrate something dedicated to God. You know, as I said before, it could be that chair. In fact, it is that chair. When I got these chairs from Walmart, I bought them from a Caucasian salesman. I had these chairs dedicated to God. Okay. So if you know I had those chairs dedicated to God, you know that and you deliberately come in and say that's a satanic chair. Knowing that it isn't. Okay. That's blasphemy. If you do it ignorantly, ah, this whole place is screwed. That's not blasphemy. And all forms of blasphemy are forgivable except one. And so if you tell Jesus, that's blasphemy because you know he isn't. Or if you're out of your mind drunk, that wouldn't be blasphemy because you wouldn't know that. You just think Jesus is Buddha or Gumby or Mickey Mouse. Okay. So blasphemy is a condition of the heart. You have to know what you're doing. And that's why the Pharisees committed blasphemy because they knew he was not healing by demons. They knew he was the Son of God. They all knew that, but they said the opposite. But if you say that and you don't know that, you're just saying something nasty. That's not blasphemy. Isn't that also for, I mean, I know the Bible says over and over for that generation. Wasn't that for what? With regard to blasphemy. What generation? The generation of denial from the Pharisees and to just, he talks to over and over, generate this generation. Uh-huh. Yeah, it was that generation. Yeah, that generation did do that. And then now we're in another generation doing it. We're in the Jesus cancel culture now. Right. Yeah. So, but that's all forgivable blasphemy. Yeah. It's kind of costalism and legalism. Is that under the religious spirits? Yeah. Evil religious spirits. I'm dealing with some people, great people. They have a lot of zeal, a lot of passion, and they're fantastic people. But it almost, I've heard you mention one time when an organization says you got to do it this way, or it ain't going to work for you. That's a red flag, get out of there. But I'm dealing with wonderful people that are insisting you got to follow these rules, you got to do it this way, candy, pork, got to have head coverings, etc., etc. Those are religious demons. But if you're in a group like that and you want to help them, you can still stay in that group. There's some legalism things that are no big deal. Here at our church, we wear these ties and we part our hair like that. Okay. If you're called to help those people, okay, wear the tie like that. Difference does it make? Part your hair over there. Help these people. If the legalism is, now you're not, you're sinning because you had a ham sandwich at Arby's, whoa, red flag, now we're into the morality issue. Now you might want to consider taking further precautions. Okay. Some legalism things don't matter. You just play along with it. Who cares? Great people. Our anointing at our church is based on this pink underwear. We had our pink underwear anointed. Okay, that's fine. I don't mind. Give me a pink underwear. I'll wear that. Okay, now let me pray for this. But you're going to go to hell with the blue underwear. Whoa, wait a minute. Now, wait a minute. Now we've stepped over the line of legalism and I'm going to have to do something about that. I can't wear, I'm not going to go with that. See that? That's what Paul was saying. I become all things to all people so I might win a few. He wasn't talking about morally. Okay, I'll go with Buddha. No, you know, not a chance. No chance. Well, you want me to cut my hair or shave my beard? No problem. Give me some souls. That's how Paul handled legalism. Praise God. Okay, what was I talking about before you asked that question? Blasphemy. Yeah, blasphemy. Yeah, that's not blasphemy. Legalism is not wear this, drink that. It's all forgivable except one. So anyway, this group now, these people got replaced, Phoenix got replaced and now we're out in California. And now it's gone to another level. So here it is. They have sozo deliverances out there. Sozo is a Greek word. It means what? To be delivered. That's right. And sozo is a contextually interpreted term as we've discussed. So if you see the word saved, it doesn't mean anything unless you look at the context of what's being saved in the text. So this verse could be different types of things being delivered. Could be sins, could be physical illnesses. You got to look at the text. But anyway, they named this ministry sozo healing ministry. And so here's their six steps, one through six is sozo. Then they have other spiritual events over there, grave soaking. You go out and lay on a prophet's grave or a minister's grave, just lay on the grave and absorb their anointing, a soaking prayer. We'll get to that in a minute. Christian tarot cards. They now have cards where you deal out and God picks the card for your destiny and you go through the system there. Okay. This one here, all these steps here, these six steps all have good stuff in it. There's a lot of good information. For example, father's ladder, where you go through the process of this was your dysfunctional dad and this is your heavenly father. And you work through the differences between the two here, which is really good. Some people don't like God because they had a bad dad. And so the devil gets them to associate a male father figure with your birth father figure who was a kook or a loon. And so the person's relationship with God is poor. So that's in this section here, for example. Right. Here's the four door section, hatred, adultery, occult. You go through this door, you shut these doors, which is great. You got to shut the doors to the four doors. Same. All that's great. Presenting Jesus, walls, walls. Let's go to that one. There are certain things emotionally and spiritually that you built up walls over the years, usually through abuse. And you've got to tear these walls down for the Holy Spirit to move. Good idea. Great idea. Trigger is a beautiful life, beautiful section. Someone says something to you or does something. And like all human beings, it triggers a memory, an event, an emotion of when you were young or when you were a young adult. Something happens in your past. Or this person's personality triggers a negative personality in your past. Say that. That's all good. Good stuff there. Editing. Okay. Jesus, the problem with all of these sections is that it's similar to a secular counseling where you learn to visualize things. That's what we did in secular counseling, psychology. You learn to visualize stuff. In editing, you visualize Jesus coming in to an old memory. What's your memory? You got molested when you were five and your uncle came over to the house, come in the back door, got you in the bed, snuck up on you, took your pants off, etc. Now you're going to, through my counseling, helping you, you're going to visualize Jesus coming into your room instead of your uncle. And Jesus coming into your room. There you are. And he comes up to you, gives you a hug, says something nice to you. I love you. See, I'm helping you visualize that. See that? Follow that? Okay. And so Jesus comes in and cancels out an old memory and replaces it with a new Jesus memory. Okay. Okay. Same thing here. Presenting to a visualization. Then you have Jesus come in and hear a lot of that. Then you ask him to talk to you. What's he saying to you? Visualizing him sitting on, you sitting on his lap as a two-year-old. Remember when you were two years old, your dad beat you with a belt? Now, now go back there. You're visualizing you're Jesus, you're two years old, instead of getting beaten with a belt, you're sitting on his lap, sitting on Jesus' lap. Something like that. Different things. Okay. What's going on here? Well, we're about to get screwed. As soon as the demons find out you like to visualize stuff, they will start pumping stuff into you. You won't even believe. Oh, you like Jesus, do you? Oh, there he is. Oh, look, he's on a cloud. My goodness. And the people that we have coming in here, and they go to Sozo, you can't visualize stuff here. They have too many demons. The demons will simply copy it. They're copycatters, and they will start giving the person visualizations spontaneous ones. Stuff that pops up. Yeah. Daughter, little girl, she's always encouraging for this, and she sees it. Courage her to visualize, and this little child has all these visions. Oh, I see an angel right there. I see this. Well, now she just proved exactly what I just said. As soon as you start Sozo-ing, the demons will see you like it. Oh, is that what makes you feel good? Okay. Now remember, the Kundalini spirits, they're not like other demons. Fear demons torture you. Lust demons torture you. They do the opposite. They want you to feel good. Okay. Lust demons and fear demons target rotten people with bad habits. These target anointed people that have good habits. They want good ministers, people who love God. They're not going after the heathens. These Sozo people are good people. They love God. These are not secret satanists floating around. It's not, no. Now, this is a system set up by a superior intelligence that I went over last night up the ladder of the demon chain running this whole program of Jesus' fun. It's all a trick. Yeah. Sorry, go backwards. What's the four doors again, please? Those are the four doors. They have four doors that they claim all spirits and all soul wounds and all wounds got in and all heartache and all all kinds of pain comes in four different doors. So they teach you how to shut those doors. Say one of them's hatred. The other one's sex. The other one's the occult. What's the fourth one? The fourth one is unforgiveness. Thank you. Those are the four doors and then they focus on those doors, which is good. Okay. They are not looking for bad things. They want good things, good people, anointed people, smart people. Other demons, no. They like rotten people. They like people with low count, low integrity, character problems. They go for the craps. They don't. They go for the people serving God, the good people. So will those other demons pull back them when the Kundalini comes in and get them built up? Of course. Yeah, then they run the show here and many of these people here don't even don't even really have heavy infestations of fear, lust, rage, anger, hate. They don't have it anyway because they're all born again spirit-filled Christians. So they've already gone through some mind renewal and renovation process but they don't have any discernment and so now they're passing out Christian tarot cards thinking they're helping. They're not trying to hurt anybody. They're trying to help them. They believe they're helping them. They're blinded. They're blinded and the target group is good people, good ministers, anointed ministers. For the counterfeit. It's all counterfeit here. See, it's a mixed bag. Four doors. Four doors is great. Wouldn't you want to close them doors? Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so in the psychology world we called it guided imagery and now it's called sozo. There's Jesus. This is so sick. This is so sick. Back in 2006 or 2007, I'm sitting there watching a YouTube video and Patricia King is sleeping and she wakes up hearing something on her roof. She looks up and there is Michael the Archangel reached it down and took her and put her in a chariot and then he took off. He was pulling the chariot and he went in space and she was looking at the stars staring at everything and then he brought her back to her bedroom. I know her. I know she's a beautiful woman. I know she's a good woman of God. I know she loves God. I know she's spirit filled and she had no clue Satan had taken her for that ride to go look at the stars. Deception. For all of us, are you saying all of these encounters that I know all these people that are sharing, are they all, they're all great. This is, yeah it's a mixed bag is what I'm trying to get through. These people are not servants of Satan. They're good people serving God. Yeah. So we know that we'll find this. Satan gives you a problem and then he gives you the solution. What is the problem he's trying to solve? Is it rejection? No. He's trying to kill all these people. See these Kundalini spirits get in their body. They think it's God and then later on this person gets cancer. This one loses her mind. This one goes, I didn't even get to the symptoms yet. I was just showing what they're doing. They're destroying these people and they spread them all through the congregation. Now this person's having weird dreams. Now that one's got nightmares. Now this one's, this one came down with cancer. This one's got arthritis. What's going on around here? Cancer is a special gift from them. The prophetic, you wouldn't believe how many of them are dying of cancer. Die all the time. Cancer. Yeah. Okay, so you said you had no clue or no discernment. No discernment. No discernment. How do you get a clue? No discernment. Well, without somebody like me around, you can't. If you're completely sucked in and your subconscious mind has been taken, it's all normal to you now. You're fully convinced it's real. It's of God and you're done. Didn't you say you had, back 10 years ago, you had a bunch of these people coming in. You had about 50% of them now. Would you agree with you that, yeah, I'm infected. The other one would be like, no, you're crazy. Well, that's what happened to me in 05. See, I had a gal come to me from Patricia King's ministry and I interviewed her. I thought, my gosh, this woman, it really isn't sick. She's fully anointed. She ministers all the time. She got a loving heart. She was an intelligent person. I didn't think there was anything wrong with her that much. She had a few things from her dad. A couple of women's here and they're like, well, I'm just going to go in and pray for them. I took her in the prayer room, opened the house of healing, got the shock of my life. And it was so shocking, kind of scared me. I actually stepped back when she started manifesting. The demon spooked me. Whoa, I backed up against the wall. I wasn't expecting it because she was such a nice person. I thought, man, I was kind of secretly thinking, I think I'll steal her from Patricia King and get her over here. I guess that's why I got spooked. And the other bad thing, the worst thing about her was she Caucasian. So this thing, and he growled at me. And I went, whoa, you know, I didn't have Kelly back then that saved me. This was before Kelly, PK. And then she went back to Patricia King's ministry and told them what happened. And I got flooded with them all summer long. I was doing three and four a day. Flooded because they wanted help. They wanted help. They wanted help. So what did they do, go back to her ministry after they got cleaned up? Yep, they went back over there. Did they continue to do sozo? I thought they still do that. Sozo didn't exist back then. This is a Bill Johnson invention. They had something similar to it. But this is the formal sozo now. This is the updated version I gave you here. But over the years, after the summer of 2005, then, like I said, he just said, I would lose about 50% of them because I would explain to them, look, these manifestations, this is not God. You're being tricked. These are familiar spirits. And they didn't believe you. They didn't believe me. And so they would leave. And that's the way it is today. I lose about half of them. What do you say to these people? Because I know a lot of people that are very sucked into this and they love their visions. Yep. That's the purpose of it. And they think that they're very anointed. That's correct. They see all these things. Right. That's exactly right. Did you hear what she just said? Everything she just said was mimicking. Impostors. How does it hurt them though? It hurts them by deception, lies, and their main goal is to spread it. They want everybody here to get a Kundalini spirit. So you can deceive everybody. And they play off, instead of your spirit, they play on your soul. They make you feel good. They hit your body with positive sensations. Oh, I feel light. Oh, I'm tingling. I got tingling. Oh, anointing's all over me. You know, one guy came in years ago. He had the hose. He didn't go to prostitutes. This is a familiar spare hoe. Whenever the anointing would come on him, click, click, click, then his body would jerk forward. And he'd start doing crunches like he was at the gym. And I said, dude, that's a demon doing that. And you can track these things pretty easily because almost everything they have you doing, the net result of it is nothing. It's just a sensation. See, they'll have these elaborate visions. I'm in a chariot. I mean, I'm in the Milky Way. You go back home and drop off in bed and nobody was helped. Nobody got any help. There's no value to it. See, it's more like spiritual entertainment. Yeah. I was on a Zoom friend invited me to observe this class. It was super natural, whatever class. And they did a little teaching and it was okay. And then we had a spray for some people. I prayed for a young lady who was blind. And I said, okay, try to cast a spirit doubt, whatever. Anyway, then they moved to us. They got to a circle and they were doing what they called throwing balls of the Holy Spirit around the room, beach balls. And as they, you know, I got a ball, I'm going to throw it to you and it would pierce it and knock the person right out of their chair, laughing hysterically. So I said to the mom, because I talked to the mom and the daughter who's blind later, because she was confused, you know, the Holy Spirit blah, blah, blah. I said, well, if truly the Holy Spirit was in the room, why wouldn't your daughter be healed? And she said, that's a good point. I said, so all these people were being touched by the Holy Spirit, but your daughter's still sick. So she finally left. She left. And again, the point she's making there is the net result of all these activities. Look at this gold. Who is nothing? There's no help. See, in the New Testament, you've got help. Spirit come out, healed, be healed, be delivered, be saved. See, those are wonderful benefits of the gospel. They give you sensations, emotional highs and physical hoes. And the net result is nothing. Nobody got healed. Nobody got delivered. Nothing really changed. Nobody repented. Nobody's character improved. But it was fun, like a carnival, like the state fair down here. It's fun. But after you leave the state fair, what happens? A, you got diarrhea. You had the hot dogs. B, you're out about 150 bucks. And C, your fanny hurts because you went on the spider and you're too old. You thought you were young again. Again, deception. Get on the spider. You're young and you can have fun. And you get off the spider, vomiting, walking sideways, like that. Stupid, stupid. And you notice that everybody on the spider is a Caucasian. Not a good sign. Stop it. It's all a state fair carnival ride. They're smarter than we are. God showed them. Todd, here's your apostle. This is what's going on. I love you. Re-evaluate what you're doing. And nobody did. Mikey. In 2005, we had the wrong time when Andrew Strong kind of broke this loose too. Because he was in the product, right? Yeah. Then he's the one that did the Kunalini. That was before that. Before that. So you knew it. Yeah, I knew him. I went on a mission trip with him. You didn't know about Kunalini and all that stuff? No, he didn't know it back then. He didn't know it? No. I didn't either. I didn't know what was going on. I was ignorant. I went to those things. Me too. My wife liked Patricia King, so I would go with her. I would see Todd Bentley a few times. I thought he was an interesting guy. I thought he had some decent stuff. Yeah, no, I was fooled. I didn't know what was going on until that thing growled at me from that wonderful, loving woman. I was up against the wall. It caught me completely off guard. I was shocked. I thought, what is wrong with this woman? I didn't see any of that. I did a detailed interview. I didn't catch a thing. Where'd that come from? Did you call up the demon? No, I was praying for her. And then he pitched a fit. Scared me, had to spook me. No, I wasn't calling the demon. I was, I can't remember the benign, you know, kind of, kind of a Mickey Mouse thing. I didn't see anything wrong with her. I thought she's got some problems with her dad. Let's focus on that. And then it wasn't her dad growling at me. It was somebody else. And I was, I was shocked. Oh, I'd go right after growling. Oh no, that's a nothing deal. Back then, when I was ignorant, that's another story. That's a different deal. I know what was going on. But it was a red flag and I had to investigate it because that, anything that catches me off guard like that, I have to investigate. Why didn't I know that? How did that get past me? And then all summer long, all these great people were coming to see me. Like from at the, at the inner sanctum of the ministry came to see me. Huge manifestations. I mean, I was like stunned. I'll just share this. So I've been making people reason on my Tuesday night that they're coming from churches that have this mixture and the churches are sending them away because their manifestations are becoming so outrageous. And so when people get isolated, because they don't want to go to church anymore, because every time worship starts or the sermon begins, they start growling or flailing or burping or whatever. All these manifestations start to happen and the pastors or the assistant pastors are sending them away saying you can't, these demons will throw you to the ground. They're causing distractions. Yeah, they're causing disruption, right? So then, yeah, I've been meaning them. That's the purpose of it. So a good distraction is be healed. Get up and give your testimony. Take a run. Dad, is it distraction? I take that one all day. This whole stop. I don't need a whore. Come on. Now throw a Caucasian. Yeah, I'll let him in. But healing and delivering the blessings of the gospel, repentance, salvation. Hey, crank it up. Let's say someone's at a service with Luke Barnett and there's a congregant, like Julie said, and they're growling. They've got a little demon manifestation. And the pastor says, I command you to get out in the name of Jesus. And if that pastor has the pistas faith, it should come out, right? Couldn't he do it? Probably. Yeah, I don't know anything about Luke. Let's just say any pastor. Well, I don't know anything about them either. So I don't know. I don't know. Potentially that could happen. Yeah, depending on the guy's anointing and what's going on with that person. Do they know him? I'm not sure. But theoretically, it happened to Jesus. The guy started pitching a fit on Mark chapter one right there in the seat, ruined in the sermon, and he blew the thing out of there. They have attended those people that you're all talking about. But when you were talking about the hole, and Patricia King had a certain little thing that she would say with a laugh, a sure laugh. And I always sat in the back because I wasn't sure if I was in the right place. I was just testing the waters for a long time. And as I was going there to test the waters, everybody started laughing, had that little laugh she had. It was all through the church. Everybody received it. And they all started, it was like, everybody was her. They all had that same little laugh every so often. Yeah. And again, like I was telling her, their goal is to spread it. Well, it did. You know. The other question, the old people that came from her ministry, it got delivered and they went back. So does that mean they got seven times more demons? I don't know. I never followed up with them. They never came back. I'm assuming they got reinfected. But again, these things are so dangerous because the people who have them are good people. They're not criminals, rapists, murderers, pedophiles, cooks, you're sitting there talking to them, wow, this is a beautiful person. Like to have them in our ministry, you know, the kind of thing. That's how they sneak in. And they're that smart. That's how smart they are. They pick good people, trick them to say. Years ago, before that started, you could, the demons were infiltrating the church. It was called the Holy Laughter Movement. And then everybody started going through hysterical, holy roller laughing. They'd fall out of the chair. Everybody rolling around laughing their heads off. At the end of it, no good came out of it. Nobody got healed. Nobody got, again, it's all these manifestations and good feelings. But the net result is almost always nothing. And then the most frightening thing is the Holy Spirit himself breaks through sometimes in these meetings. And then you have like Todd Bentley or Patricia and whatever. People really get healed. So now the demons have got one up on us. They will market a healing, a real healing, to promote their hose. They have a lot of healings. So did they drop you? I mean, after like. They dropped me. Yeah. As soon as I found out what was going on, then I had to fix, I had to assign the warning. And then that was it. And they really support this. I remember asking Chris Ballinger, you know, about Bethel. What's with this roaring like a lion business and the laughing? I said, that's not the Holy Spirit. He said, well, how do you know? Well, that's the attitude Arno took in the beginning. See, he wasn't sure. So instead of raising a stink over it, he said, well, let's just love the people and let's go with it. And that's what they wanted him to do. So they could spread. Yeah, contaminated church, but they're targeting good people. Okay. This is not the satanic temple. I was reading there earlier. No, no, no. These people are not in that group. There. Yeah. All right. So we've got good people. They're getting exposed to these things. Yeah. Because they lack discernment. Correct. So what should people be doing to develop discernment so that they don't get caught of that grave soaking stuff? Because I actually had somebody I recently respect their opinion about his purchase. So I'll say, well, the grave soaking thing, they explained it to me where something is in the Bible and somebody rolled it against Elijah's bones. They got something to do with it. They're all respectable, not just your friend. Tarot. These people are all respectable Christians. Yeah. How do you develop discernment so you don't get caught up in that stuff? Okay. You're developing your discernment. It has nothing to do with this or anything else. It's all done the same way like they've been doing it for 2,000 years. You spend your time in prayer. You focus on God's word and you get filled with the spirit and then you're anointing and your giftings go like that. You look at nothing to do with this or anybody else's program. That's how you do it. You get your anointing on your knees and you give God's word and that's how that doesn't do anything with Kundalini or Copeland or anybody else. That's how you do it. You get down here on your knees and Father comes right to you. Praise God. And then of course when this stuff hit then everything else hit on top of it. Then the rise of Sid Roth. You know, the number one guy. Every Kundalini infected human being in the United States is eventually on that shelf. Selling tapes and books. Now it's now it's anything. It's just spread everywhere. And last night I'm at the altar suffering through these demons. Suffering. Some guy brought a girl here for prayer. The guy that brought her is massively infected with demons. I couldn't get one demon out of this guy. I've been working with him for 7 years. He brings this girl. She can't get delivered because the demons tricked her. She had all these problems and a voice spoke to her in her head and told her that meditation would help these problems. Well she listened to the voice and started meditating and sure enough these problems dissipated. She wasn't committing adultery anymore. She got off drugs, blah, blah, blah. I tried to explain to her that the demons create a problem then they provide you with the solution to it. You had all these problems caused by demons and then they gave you meditation to fix it. And then they backed off and helped you fix it. So now she's in this loop of chronic failure and I could not get through to her. I tried every technique I could use and I got nowhere. She would interrupt my prayers to go back to telling me about meditation. I couldn't, it failed. That's how smart these things are. These demons are geniuses. Professional. Well if I did it amazing that's not maddening to you because that would be maddening to me. It would just upset me. Are you going to get delivered to that today? I hope so. These kind of people you just slap around. You don't worry about it. See because he's not really Caucasian. He's secretly Hispanic. That's what it is. So in Italian that's even better. All right. Italian. Oh I may not be here next week. Okay. Kelly you're next month. Kelly right here. Kelly will be here next month. He'll yell at you. Okay so we do not get into any guided imagery here. We can't do it. Okay don't do that with anybody. Soul wounds nothing because God requires us to walk by faith and not by sight. And so you cannot sit there. You see Jesus? There he is. What's he doing? Oh he's sitting on a cloud waving me over. What's he saying to you? Oh I love you. Go to college. We can't do any of that because the demons will see you like that and they'll mimic it. Just like they mimic tarot cards. Now they got Holy Ghost cards. See that? They always mimic him. So if you visualize something we're going to get in trouble because these people that come here they're demonized. They need real deliverance. And to give you an idea how bad this is this is four doors for example. The four doors are great. They don't cast the demons out after you shut the doors in the book. Well if you shut the doors the demons that already got in are still there. Right? So these demons can't get in because you shut your doors but the ones that got in before they're already there. That should have been in the book. Now you got to get the ones out that got in before you shut the doors. Duh! Nope. Didn't occur to them. Superior intelligence. I had it listed up the chain. The super smart ones. The mind controllers. They're the scariest ones of all. Mind control. Why? They're like cat burglars. They come in, they steal stuff and they're gone. You don't know they were there. Mind control spirits are frightening because they put a thought in your head and you don't catch it. There's no alarm. Then you go with the thought. I don't think you're going to get any better. I'm not going to get any better. You know what you need to do? Try this method. Oh! And pretty soon you're running around trying everything in the world. They're telling you, why don't you try that? It didn't work. Try this one. They always provide a solution to your problem. But they created it. That's how smart they are. This is a superior level of intelligence we're looking at here. Am I boring you, sir? Not at all. I shouldn't have used you as that example. I apologize. No, no. Please forgive me. I was going to ask you a question. He's not as cockated. That's also. That's also. Work on that social thing. And on the psychology part. What's it called? Guided imagery. You don't. We don't do that here. Do not do any of that here. Don't do it in your ministry because you're running a very bad risk of a copycat. And they'll copycat. You know, I told it last night. Devil said, here's all the kingdoms of the world. Phew! When Jesus stand right there looking at them all. It was real. Yeah, with people going through deliverance they're kind of, most every one of them stuck in a memory of childhood, of abuse or something that happened, a trauma. And they can't get out of that loop. You know, it continues to haunt them no matter how old they get. Yeah, of course. So that's an imagery issue, right? Because it's, who knows if it was real or not because after 50 years, right? So what do you fight that with if not another image with Jesus too? No, now see, she just fell into the trap. Did you hear that? That was perfect. Perfect. We have to replace the imagery. Editing. You got to get rid of the memory. No, you don't get rid of the memory. You don't want your part of your mind being sucked out into some universal clunk. You have the memory and it no longer bothers you. It's like an ex-wife. That's how, that's your healed over that. Oh, you got abused? Yeah, I remember it, but whatever. I got healed of that. You had a bad leg? Oh, your knee got healed? Oh, yeah, my knees healed. I remember having a bad leg. I was limping all over, but now I'm healed. I'm fine. See, God doesn't want you to lose your mind. He wants to heal the wound that was associated with that thing. Not by having him come to you in your head talking to you. No, no, no. Jesus doesn't come visit you and talk to you. That's not going to happen. So what do you do with the person that refuses to let it go, but just like… Well, you can't control anybody. You can't control people's will. They have to have their own free will. So if they're not going to listen to me, I let them get up, run out of my office, and then I get a copy of their social media post. Then I come in here and I read it to my friends that you can't control people. Everybody's free will determines what happens to them. And if you've got mind control spirits and you're going to listen to them, I can't stop you from listening to them. I can't do it. And God won't do it. He'll only do it if you… Your free will is decided to stop. Then He will help you stop it, but He won't force you to stop it. He's not going to force you to stop masturbating to porn. If you want to stop and be healed, He will help you do it, but God's not going to send an angel in there to knock your computer off the stand and grab your penis and hold it. Stop doing that. That's not going to happen. You're free will determines where you go in Christ and nothing else determines it. You can have everything you can believe for. That applies to me and everybody else. Anything you can believe for in the dispensation of grace is possible if you only believe. But God's not going to stop you from sinning. He isn't going to do it. That's your choice. You decide if you're going to have stupid thoughts and keep them. You're going to do stupid things and do them. That's your issue. But if you decide you're not going to do that and you want God to help you, we can break that. He can break anything. Praise God. Jesus. Anything is possible. Praise God. Thank you, Lord. But if I'm not going to cooperate, God's not going to force me to cooperate. You know, this isn't Hamas. This is all volunteer work. This is Islam where you have to do something. If you don't do it, the morality police will come along and beat you into the ground with a whip. That's what they do. They catch you wearing your hair or hood or something off. You get beaten with a whip in the public square. Now, that's not God. That's not the Holy Spirit. He doesn't do that. If you want to wear, do, say, hey, it's up to you. But like I said last night, the law of sowing and reaping is a universal law. Centers and sages, we all reap what we sow. There's no exceptions. Tell people that they need deliverance. There's someone from our church that whenever she talks, she always is so negative and so depressed. And I know she means well. She had a son that committed suicide a year ago. So she's struggling with a lot of things. But no matter what you say to her, she's like always struggling and I can clearly see that she's... She's always what? What was that? No matter what you say to him, she went... Always struggling. Struggling. Always depressed and always struggling. And I can clearly see that like, I mean, I've never talked to her about deliverance, but she's in the church and a lot of people are very resistant to demons and all of that stuff. But like I can see she's so oppressed, like she obviously has demons in her mind. And I wanted to say something, but I just don't know if I would say, hey, this can be delivered. And I don't know how you would approach that because I'm just not sure how open she is to all of that. Well, I approach it gently, you know. I don't, if the person's totally ignorant, I don't just come out and say, you know something, you're loaded with spirits. Okay, they're going to go, wait a minute. I see the poor, I attend church four times a... How could I see them? That thing's going to go totally bad on you. But I focus on their wounds. Now your son died, that's a great avenue to get in. Beautiful opening. Now a lot of people have severe pain when they're, someone they love dies. You can be healed. You know, there's some counselors over here, they don't charge. You know, what's it going to cost you? I kind of soft soap it because I don't want to offend anybody. As soon as you offend them, they're out the door. And then what happens to them? I'm reading their thing and... You got it, you just got to laugh at it. Because if you don't, you go crazy. Yeah. Yeah. You know, if you don't want to stop, she made a really good point about the angel cards. Doreen Virtue, which was a great point for her. Doreen Virtue herself had created angel cards. She has denounced them and said, please pull them off the market. Please burn them. Please get rid of them. She's a Christian now, she's born again. And yet, if you point that out to the person using the angel cards, you know, they get it today. That's the crazy thing about us. Like, no, we're trying to help you. Well, it's not crazy because they're getting offended. They don't like you stepping on their territory. So they get pissed off like that girl that was laying there praying that day in 2005. That thing, evidently, I said something or something that made him mad, and he come roaring at me. See, that's what you're doing. You're stepping on their territory and they don't like it. They'll fight back. That's, that's perfectly normal. So I see that we went through, like, all of the lifts. Except for, maybe I just missed it, but when is something fair? I don't think so. Well, that's where you learn to, on your own, visualize and imagine Christ and be peaceful. You know, in secular psychology, they do something similar. Like, they'll lead you through a comforting scene. You lay on the couch with the psychiatrists there, you know. And you're in a flower bed, and you're young when you were, at the park, and you were at the zoo, and when you were petting the animals, can you remember that? They're trying to get anxiety disorders fixed. It's usually for anxiety. That's what it is. So they try to get reprogram their mind to think positive things instead of negative. So it's a behavior modification of the mind. Well, we don't do that here. That's all spiritual. This is all spiritual. So we don't have visions of heaven. There's no courts of heaven. That's all a crock. The courts of heaven are here at the altar on your knees, repenting. The courts of heaven come to you. Unless you become, as a little child, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Well, if you become a little child, the heaven comes to you. You don't need to go to the courts of heaven and get a bunch of Kundalini crap. Again, I know a lot of really wonderful people and they mean well, but I could clearly see the demons are yanking their chain and using them, speaking through them. And how do you help these people just get a little discernment? Well, the way I do it is, the way I do it is I look for something they need. So if they're a superstar Christian, every Christian has something they need. They need help with something. And so I try to find out what that is. And use that as an entry point. It's easy to convince them, really, because you're saying, hey, you're a superstar Christian, you're doing all these things right, but you still got that black spot in there. Now, why is that still there? If something's missing here, and you present it gently without pissing them off, and half the time they'll respond, maybe you'll get half of them. But half's better than none. Now, if you have anybody that fits into this category, have a little handout for you today. These demons are really hard to get out. Very hard. And here they are. 514 Method does it. Here's the miracle list. If this person does not develop the gift of hate, so if you've got gold dust, gems, feathers, hose, whatever it is, whatever you got, and you don't have any godly sorrow for yielding yourself over to these spirits, and you don't have any hatred for what they did to you and your family, your friends. If you don't hate them, we're not going to be able to get them out. And so I always have them emphasize the 514 on the miracle list here. They have to develop this to get these familiar spirits out because they're so smart, so powerful, that if you don't hate them, if you have any kind of comfort with them at all, they won't come out. And they'll know if you hate them or not, just like everybody else does. If you hate somebody that comes right out of you, they know you hate them. Some of your relatives just popped in your mind, but wow, when people hate each other, the other person knows it. Hates not something you can hide. And if you don't have any hate for sin, for demons, for being deceived, for being made a fool out of, if you don't have any hatred for that, or them taking your family members, destroying them, you don't hate that, you're okay with it, no deliverance. Drugs, alcohol, smoking, it's almost impossible to get them healed. Why, there's comfort there, they're smoking. Man, that's a tough one, smoking. Wow, that's really a tough one, smoking. To say, it's a habit, it feels good, there's something there. If you have any something there for it, the thing won't stop. They'll just keep coming back because they know you got a little affection for it. That's why we teach so much about self-pity because self-pity is a killer, it'll wipe your anointing out, it'll crush your life because it's you saying, oh my gosh, I wish somebody would have sympathy on me, I'm really sick, I need to be given special favors, I need somebody to care about me. And then all the emphasis is on self-pity, instead of being on here, the person that truly cares for you and wants to help you. Self-pity is a major suicide bomb. It's kind of like being a narcissist, the other direction. Well, heroin's a great drug, I mean, you take heroin and it's a great friend. It makes you feel better, your fentanyl is even better. What a wonderful friend fentanyl is, people take that and they think they don't have any troubles for 50 minutes, hour and a half, they don't have any sorrows, just the desire to shoot themselves dissipates. You know, the devil knows what he's doing. Booze is fantastic, alcohol is a great friend, he's reliable, he always comes through but then he doesn't. The devil always gives you something good. Heroin, two H's, but they both wear off and then it's horrible, right? Say what? That's like when I have that kind of familiar spirits and like in the beginning, because my mother long had on the transfer of the church and stuff and I remember of course after being delivered, it was, I had a lot of, what was it, sciatica, sciatica? Sciatica. We're out. So I have that, I had a lot of pain in my back, I got sick. When I knew when I came to the Lord, I was not sick. I didn't have nothing. And I started getting all these sicknesses, which is weird, you know, my first pregnancy, I'm married to my husband and it was like, whoa, I got sick. And I would always say, how am I sick? Lord, why I came healthy. I never had this. Of course, I had a lot of forgiveness. I was criticizing them. How did they do that? They're Christian? And how could they talk like that? And we'll go, whoa, right? I got super loaded. Yeah. I started doing it. I would criticize them and then I started doing it. I started, like I would fought for a number and they would never tell me that thing. And I would think, okay, this is God. And I would just say there, it couldn't even get up. Like it was so uncontrollable. But I would just be crying, crying, crying. And they would never say that thing to me. So that's when it all started. Never had answers for me. Nobody, everybody's sick still in that church. Nobody has gotten healed, anything. But I remember the last, when I came here, I was pregnant, pregnant. And the baby had died already in six weeks of my pregnancy. I was carrying it till six months. And when I came back here, because I was pregnant the first time with my daughter, and then when I came back in that moment, the Lord revealed to me my uncle had died from cancer. My cousin, it got passed on to my uncle. He died from cancer the next year. And then he was aging at me. And I had six months with everything. The bag, the placenta. And it was causing me to get worse. Like I couldn't get up from bed. It was bad. And nobody was able to help me. Nobody was, oh, it's okay, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Here I told the Lord that this is not a view. And this is, so they were talking about Kundalini. This is Kundalini. And this is a transfer from, you know, everybody I've been around. I don't want it. And that moment, I said, she got blood. Everything started coming out for weeks. I had weeks of placenta, weeks of stuff. Wow. And the Lord said to me, I was going to get cancer. If I wouldn't have gave it up, because I didn't want to give it up. I was like, no way this to you. It feels good. And you reveal stuff to me. Oh, all these emotions and feelings. Yeah. For years crying, crying, crying, crying, thinking it was him. And it wasn't. Right. It has a whole picture. That's a great Bible study. What she said though happens all the time. Here's what happens. The demons get into the person when they're little. And then when they're older, they get saved. Well, the demons go dormant. They'll hide in there like an insurance policy. If the person gets saved, then they start manifesting and tearing them apart. And their Christian life is miserable. And they don't know why, because the ministers told them, if you come to Christ, it's happiness and joy and peace. It turns out to be a living hell. Why? The dormant demons manifested. That's what happened to her. They were hiding in there. You said earlier that nobody thanked you. Nobody what? You said earlier that you don't get thanks. No, I don't expect any. Thank you. You're welcome. Well, can we edit that out? Because I just contradicted all my teaching. Now, every once in a while, somebody will say thanks. But again, if you're not expecting it, and you don't get it, you're not hurt. Right? And so, you're grateful for that when you hear it. But if you're expecting it all the time, then it's not a big deal. That is important to me. I like that, because you don't get it very often. See? But I also got a little bit of a miracle. I didn't pray for me last night, and I left. The reason why I left, and I've been through two deliverances here. Rough ones. Very, very rough ones. Oh, good. I wore contact lenses. One popped out last night when you were praying for me. Oh. And I found it. That guy was right on the end of my finger. I couldn't eat that. And I found it. And was able to put it back in. But when I came back, you were busy. But which is fine. Which, you know, you got to do what you got to do. But I just realized how hard that some of these things fight. That they'll do anything to distract you, and get your mind off where you are. But on the way home, I'm surprised half of Phoenix didn't hear me screaming at these things. How dare you do that? How dare you do that to me? And immediately after my family right now. In fact, that's probably where I'm going to go. It's up to my daughters. Because my granddaughter is becoming very violent. And that was another thing. How do I deal with that? Going through deliverance myself. And not fully there. But not wanting to step into a situation that I'm going to get attacked again. How do I handle that? But I can't. It's my granddaughter. Well, what it is is this guy's a peach. He's doing number 14. See that? He was yelling at him on the way home. He was getting the anger and hatred for them. Now he's angry and hatred. They've come after the granddaughter. They want her now. And that's getting under his skin. So this guy is the poster child for what I hoped would happen in the ministry. Praise God. That I would run into a thousand of these guys that got the revelation and went with it and became warriors and fighters. That was my dream. Praise God. And so how do you handle that situation? The first step is we're going to prayer in five minutes and you go ahead and come down here and finish that off. That's the first thing you do. And then you go get the devil. We was trying to get granddaughter. That's how we do it. And when you came in last night, I was busy. But the Holy Ghost was never busy. Never. So whether I'm there or not is immaterial. Praise God. If he's there, that's the end of it. Conversation stops at that point. That's the one I might drop. When he's there, nobody needs Mike. So you and him got two great sermons there. People would love to hear that information that you two just shared. Wouldn't they? I thought they were good Bible studies. Yeah. That actually happened to me a few weeks that's how the demons were attacking me. I was coming up for prayer and I'm like, man, everybody's getting prayer, but no one's approaching me. And I was like, what the heck? Sort of took a fence to it slightly. Well, the Holy Ghost would stand right in your face. There you go. But the problem was, I just like people where I wear shirts. And that ruined the whole night. Okay, but no, I am not necessary for anything. People are just vessels. Praise God. Thank you, Jesus. He's got it covered big. Praise God. Thank you, Lord. Okay, we'll close in prayer there. Let that off. He didn't show up. All right. Lord Jesus, what a great day for me. Thank you. It is beautiful. And great questions. Thank you, Jesus. Lord, I wasn't trying to offend anybody or criticize anybody. I was simply trying to expose these spirits so, you know, I know some people are going to be offended when they see this tape, but I wasn't trying to hurt anybody. I was just trying to show people what they do, what you taught me, how they behave, how they react to people, what they do to people. That's all I was doing. So I offended somebody. I apologize. But right now, the Holy Ghost is here, the one and only. And I expect every person here that needs to be delivered, that it will happen in the next few minutes. In Jesus' Holy Name. Amen. Amen. The training is over. You're dismissed. Come down here if you need prayer. My ministry team is going to come down here and help me. And we are going to drive these things out. Huge. Huge. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, dear Lord. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you dear Lord Satan's not going to have that granddaughter. That's not going to happen It is simply not happening Period mind control spirits you put these thoughts in people's mind you lie to them all the time that's going to stop today You're going to stop doing that You're going to stop The name of Jesus We're going to make you stop We're going to make you stop. We're going to make you stop Thank you Jesus. All right now Each one of you are born again Christians. I know that Each one of you have the anointing I know that and you're ready to go because you came down here We got every ingredient Come down here hun Yeah And a girl craze We got everything covered here. Yes, all of it Thank you Lord close your eyes now so we can Anoint you in Jesus holy name father here. They are here's your servants and you've got great ministries for them Lots of people are going to get saved healed and delivered Using these saints of God standing right here in sanctuary, it's my privilege to be standing here looking at them It's a privilege It's a privilege to be here Spirit in the name of Jesus you are bound by the blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit you're bound by God's holy word and you Will come out when they tell you to Right now you're gonna come out in Jesus holy name You're gonna come out of there right now in the name of the Lord. You're gonna get out of that body And you're gonna come out of there Right now you're gonna come out of that body Come out of that body it there it goes come out right now. You're gonna come out of that body right now Come on there right now My control monster Out of that head right now your mind control monster Right this Fear fear come out of Satan lose your holy Satan come out Satan lose your hole There it goes Satan lose your hole in there Satan lose your hole in there come out of that body right now Come on Yeah, that body right now Come on My baby You empty come out of that body right now You come out of there You stinkin Nazi come on You filthy demon from Germany come on up by right now Your killer No reason Oh my god The worldly spirits go You come out of there every one of you come out of there right now worldly spirits Secularism I bind your power come out of this woman of God stop blocking your healing ministry Stop walking your healing ministry Come out of there and let's go Satan come on up on it now quickly I command that entity to come out of that spine stop hiding in the spine to come up Come on body quickly. Hurry up Come on there right now Come out right now Come out right now your filthy devil Come on right now come out right now and go go and go Come out your filthy spirits you pervert get out of me you pervert Come on there you pervert Go now Go now There he is keep coughing come out devil keep going There they go There they go come out devil Come out devil you get everybody come out of spying Come out of spying Come out of spying Get out of body Come out quicker quicker Quickly come out quickly Quicker quicker Quicker come out quicker Come out quicker Quickly Come out quicker Quicker Go Go Get out of there good Good Good Good good good