 Welcome to Think Tech on Spectrum OC16, Hawaii's weekly newscast on things in matter-of-tech and Hawaii. I'm Jay Fidel. And I'm Elise Anderson. In our show this time, we'll take the time to review the top five Think Tech talk shows and the staff picked from a week ago. We'll check out the elements of the best of the best and get a handle on the public issues and coverage involved. Think Tech produces some 30 talk shows every week in our downtown green screen studio. Here's what this studio looks like. And here's a list of our Incredibles Think Tech hosts. Every week, Think Tech chooses its top five Think Tech talk shows from the week before. Based on the number of views each of them has had on the internet. For this past week, the winning shows were as follows. Number one from the series called Asia in Review, hosted by Lily Ong. It's called Asian and American Educational Systems Compared with guest Mark Hannington. Since I was a child, schools have changed a lot in North America. And a lot more of those issues that are not strictly curricular issues have definitely shown up in the schools. And they need to be addressed in starting with hunger, which now schools need to address. So that's a good point. And it certainly does distract teachers from curricular things. If by curricular things you mean a very narrow set of what you would expect as opposed to the broader psychological and psychosocial effects, yeah, I think there's a real disadvantage. I have also heard that in China, the teachers actually aren't paid very well as a rule but make a lot of money tutoring after class. And so that is of interest to me. It's not feeding somebody, but it's definitely going outside of normal classroom hours to do what would appear to be a different form of instruction than took place during the school day. And in comparison to Asian schools, how do you think U.S. schools deal with students that are falling behind? Because in Asia, they tend to catch them when they see them gaining a downward momentum. How do American schools in general deal with those? I can't answer in general. I think a lot of attention is given. Certainly the attention given to children with learning differences has in the 30 years I've been in the States significantly changed. And now we're aware of those. And in all the schools I know of, we have resources. And the classroom teachers are being trained in how you address this problem. If you have one dyslexic child in a classroom of 30, how can you construct a lesson that's not going to lose that child? And so the teachers are getting professional development to help them do that. So I think we're getting better at it in America than we have been. Are we as good at it as our in Asia? Not depending on where in Asia you talk about, Singapore and Shanghai have outstanding programs? Well, in Singapore, I mean schooling is just about mandatory, whereas in the United States they can opt to drop out. Technically after age 16, is there an age limit in Singapore? Yeah, well, I mean, tertiary years ideally. Yeah, so it's 16 and well, let me just say. I have two nieces and a nephew who have not gone to college. And they are outstandingly creative and successful. One is a world-class choreographer. One is an expert in computer security. One is a very artistic. So the notion that one size fits all in terms of education is also misplaced. Number two from the series called Hispanic Hawaii, hosted by Richard Conception. It's called the Don Tataner story with guest Don Tataner, of course. You got into bodybuilding. Well, I originally went into bodybuilding because when I retired from the military, I figured that I wanted to gravitate towards a career that engulfed my passions. And fitness was at the top of that list. So I went to bodybuilding because, quite frankly, I couldn't figure out how to make money in fitness. And I knew bodybuilding was one of those sports that yielded a lot of attention. It attracted a lot of attention. And I wanted to prove that I can do something. If I'm going into personal training, a lot of people that will be looking for personal trainers are looking to kind of change their physical appearance. And I was thinking to myself, I was like, hey, if I can do the things correctly and do them right and change my own physical appearance, tap into something that I love anyway, fitness, and if I can show people I can do it for myself, maybe that'll give me credibility. And I just kind of started. Did a competition locally, and I received some success in that. And then I just said, why not? Let's try it for the next level. And they have shows that are pro-qualifier. So here in Hawaii, they have national qualifiers. So if you do well, you get top three or something that will make you nationally qualified, and the national qualifiers can go to a pro-qualifier. And if you do well at that, now you're talking about international. You compete internationally against people from Mexico, from I went to the one where I was competing other Americans. So South America, everywhere, you're competing in one location. So, and I won, that's the key, right? All the stars aligned, and I won that competition and that gave me the qualification as a professional athlete. I'm still on cloud nine, I still get butterflies thinking about it. I'll tell you what, I have a lot of goals with it. I still feel nervous about it a little bit. We start thinking about things that are goals that seem so lofty. It's like, wow, man, I would never be on a silver screen and talking and actually portraying another character on an international setting. With goals like that, gives you butterflies. But to also think back in hindsight, it's like, man, I was just on the Y5O. That's an international show. Why can't I put myself in a position like that? And the thing is, I just said it, when I say put myself in it, I get freaked out. Because I know I can do it. It takes other things, it takes positive affirmations. It takes a belief in God or whoever people believe in to be like, okay, I can't really see a way, but I'm putting out the energy out there. And team works make dreams work and things like that. So it's not just me. Number three from the series called the Cyber Underground, hosted by Dave Stevens. It's called Crack Attack. Our Wi-Fi is broken with guest Hal Corcoran. It's always been that if you wanted to crack someone's Wi-Fi network password, you had to lurk around and capture that password when it gets sent around the network and then take it, run it through some kind of password cracker, which would take time, go through brute force or dictionary attacks, trying to guess words until you were able to essentially guess the right password. With key reinstallation attacks, don't need it anymore. You don't even need that password. You can insert your own encryption key. So you control the encryption, you can decrypt whatever you want. Let's back this up for a minute. For our viewers who don't really know up to this point what we're talking about. Well, let's just talk about Wi-Fi routers are the central hubs of all Wi-Fi networks. And we all trust them. Our smartphones use them, our laptops use them, all our internet of things, all the webcams, everything. They use these Wi-Fi routers. And the Wi-Fi routers usually have some selections for encryption. So they give you some security in your username and password when you log into the Wi-Fi network. And you're usually given, I don't know why these still show up, but WEP, or the encrypted, from way back in the 90s, it's still there. Yeah, that's been broken forever. TKIP is an option, but broken in 2009. So there's still options out there and I don't know why. But WPA2 appeared in 2004 and has been around just as the standard for all this Wi-Fi for 14 years. All right, I had a marriage that didn't last 14 years. So everything comes to an end eventually. You got to refresh it, especially with cybersecurity. We tell everybody so many times over and over again, it's a running game. You've got to keep moving. The moment you're still for too long, someone's going to find out how to get to you. And this is one of them. Actually, WPA2, not a bad standard considering that it held up for 14 years. Yeah, truly. Actually, a pretty good track record. Solid. But it's just inevitable sooner or later with enough people poking at it. You're going to break anything, give it enough time and resource. So there was a standard came up on the IEEE, which does all the standards pretty much for all these electronics. This is a standard that came out in late 2003, implemented 2004, I believe. And the thing that we're going to be talking about is actually a gap in the actual procedure of executing this standard. Somebody didn't think, what if this thing happens? What do we do now? And a few like Windows and iOS actually thought, well, it's not on the standard, but we're going to do something about it anyway. It wasn't a perfect solution and you can still break it. But at least in Windows and iOS, you're a little safer. Number four from the series called Shrink Wrap, hosted by Steve Katz. It's called The Energy of Fusing Yoga and Therapy with guest Julie Lynn Cato. And a child's pose, which is a very resting pose. And we're resting and the teacher said something about, I don't know word for word, but it was something about you're in the right place at the right time in your life. And I thought, wow, and something just shifted in me. Something opened up where I am and my hips were open. And so this emotions were kind of more open than normal. My mind was more open because I've been moving my body and it just sunk in a little bit deeper. And I was like, I am on the right path. And I just started transferring into my life. And when I really got into meditation and yoga, exchange where I didn't react as quickly. I wasn't as stressed out. I was more peaceful as calmer. And I probably even started walking with more pride. And I just, something for me definitely clicked for yoga in my life with meditation because meditation is a part of yoga, like you're talking about when you're jogging and then you're mindfully thinking, that's just one point of focus is meditation. And so that's when all of that started shifting. And I knew there was something there that I wanted to infuse with counseling. I noticed that you said, you stopped reacting, talk more about that. Yeah. So I, like most people when they're young in 1920, when something happened triggered me or upset me or a family member, I would just react right away. Yeah. You know, tell them how I felt really quickly. It never ended up well for either one of us. It was never good for either one of us. And I didn't want to do that anymore, but I didn't know how. So when I meditate, it teaches me how to just slow down, how to be present, how to be aware of my thoughts. And so that started shifting. And then in yoga poses, the way I like to do my yoga, I use my breath with it. So each movement, I'm breathing in, I'm breathing out. So I'm learning how to move with my breath as my body is calming down. And so this helps me get a little bit more control over my reaction. So is there a way that when you're not practicing meditation or yoga in a formal way, that you can remember to be that way for the rest of your day? Absolutely. This is what I think is beautiful about merging, counseling and yoga is that yoga, we're learning how to do it on the mat. We're learning when we're in a pose, what's unaligned, what's tight, what's blocked. We feel it physically. Physically. And then in counseling, we're learning that in our mental, in our emotional body. And then, but we learn it physically first. I think people react to things physically first, right? So we're learning it on the mat. And so when we take it off of the mat, and we're learning these other tools that we're trying, counseling, we're learning how to cope with them and deal with them in that aspect also. So yeah, definitely counseling fuses with it where you start to realize that you're reacting. You're showing your triggers, you're understanding your behavior patterns, and you're getting to know your defense mechanisms and you're learning it in that way. But then the yoga part, the meditation part is helping you realize how to bring it all together. Number five from the series called Seymour's World, hosted by Seymour Kazimurski. It's called No More Walls with guests, Tos Vegas and Bobby Pelleghi. We hear about music. Music is a tool. I believe it's more than just a door to success and money. It's more of a tool to heal, to inspire, to unite, to bring people together. And what we're trying to do now in our publishing company is try to create a wave of influence from the aloha state in the form of music and lyric that can create lasting impression amongst hearts and souls and give certain direction and understanding. And growing up in the 60s, being exposed to artists like Bob Dylan, Marvin Gaye, John Lennon, these crafters of music would write songs that would last generations. And when you think about it, the music of today that's out there, not that I'm comparing, is how many songs can you say that you hear on the radio that are going to be lasting 30, 40, 50 years? So what are the better ways than coming from New York, living on the island of Molokai and using my experience to influence artists and songwriters to write songs to craft music that will create a message and one that will resonate in our hearts and give us an understanding of what we're really about. We all want answers, and that's where we came up with the title No More Walls. So, Kaz, tell me a little bit about it. I mean, you have written some Hoku award-winning songs. You're very famous, not just in Hawaii. You work with Hawaiian Airlines around the world. You really wanted to do this. This was one of the big deals for you was to make this song. Tell us about it. Yes, this song, when the song title came to us, it was, we're not going to lie, it was when we seen a little bit of politics going on social media about building walls. And Bobby and I said, why don't we write a song about walls? I said, what do you want to call it? He said, No More Walls. I said, wow. I said, if we're going to write this, I'm going to relate to it the way it's going to hit me. The way it relates to me is, when I hear the title No More Walls, I feel like it speaks to me about breaking your walls from fear, breaking the walls that stop you from going to the next level, whatever it is, but for me, that's how I relate to it. And it just transcended into something that depends on paper. The words came. Some songs will take a year. Some songs, it'll take five minutes, literally. These are one of the songs that took us no more than a day to write and a day to tweak. We also have a staff pick. This time it was from the series called Research in Manoa, hosted by Pete McGinnis-Marc. It was a live broadcast of SOAS Open House at UH Manoa. Today we're demonstrating how we use sonar or sound waves to make maps of the seafloor. So in the ocean, this light only penetrates through the top few hundred feet or so. So we can't see anything using light in the deeper ocean. So what we do, so what we have over here is a model research ship. On the bottom of that little ship there is a transducer that's emitting sound waves, and then it basically listens for the echo off the seafloor. So based on how long it takes for the sound to get back to the ship, we can say how far away the seafloor is, so we can get depth measurements of the seafloor. And John, this is important not only if you're trying to do the geology of the ocean floor, but also presumably oceanographers are interested in how deep the ocean is, which would influence ocean circulation. Is that correct? Yes, yes. You can also see things like shipwrecks and things like that. You can see even, even you can see large schools of fish in the water. The sound will reflect off a large school of fish. So fish finders that people use in lakes and stuff like that. It's the same technology. When I understand in the Department of Ocean Resources Engineering, there are people who study the acoustic properties of the ocean, trying to infer what the salinity is at various levels or what the temperature distribution is. And all of that feeds into the kind of work which you're just describing here. This is Dr. Brian Glazier. Brian, can you tell us a little bit about your exhibit please? Of course. So over there they're talking about volcanoes. Here I've got a model of Luihi, which is our newest volcano coming up off the Big Island. I like to go to Luihi when it's not erupting and take expensive equipment like this with ROVs and understand the chemistry and microbiology of the system. But we also do that around Oahu. So you can go to Sandy's Beach and find where air and water and waves and sand mixed together and look like this. Or you can go to Heia Fishpond in the mangroves and find knot beach that looks like this. So Pete, let me get you to have a smell. Yeah. Yeah, it's very stinky. What about this one? That's even more. That's even. Yeah. Yeah, right. So they're both black. There's no air mixing into these. One's really bad. One's kind of bad. What if I told you you could taste salt in this one and no salt in this one? What's the source of the salt? It must be seawater. So different kinds of organisms live in seawater or freshwater and mix. Take a breath. We breathe oxygen. Bacteria breathe different things. So what we like to do is build sensors to help us measure the chemistry and the biology of the oceans. And you've got another group of students here. So what is it that you're trying to tell them inspire them to do marine sciences? If you like chemistry, we can understand the chemistry and how that reacts with life. If you don't like chemistry or biology, but you like to be a computer programmer, we need new tools to understand how the science works in the oceans. And back here they'll be telling you more about the engineering. And we just missed one of the volcanic eruptions, which we haven't. No, need a watch. You can always find the links to these shows on our daily email advisories. If you don't get our daily email advisories, you can sign up to get them on thinktecawaii.com. 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